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In Episode 95 of the Halving Report, we're excited to welcome Peter Espino, a seasoned professional in business development and community engagement. With a track record of securing multi-million dollar deals and scaling international communities, Peter brings a wealth of knowledge to the crypto space. Tune in to hear his insights on the evolving landscape of social media platforms like X (formerly Twitter), crypto trends, and more.
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Introduction 🎙️
In Episode 95 of the Halving Report, we're excited to welcome Peter Espino, a seasoned professional in business development and community engagement. With a track record of securing multi-million dollar deals and scaling international communities, Peter brings a wealth of knowledge to the crypto space. Tune in to hear his insights on the evolving landscape of social media platforms like X (formerly Twitter), crypto trends, and more.
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What's up everybody. Welcome to the having a poor podcast. I am your host, brad minds. The price of Bitcoin is approximately 25.8 thousand US dollars and there's only about two hundred and three days left until the next Bitcoin having. Today, we welcome Peter Espino onto the show. Peter and I met at the blockchain futures conference, where he was actually Livestreaming the event in the metaverse. Peter and I thought we would have a much better conversation Sitting down and having a full-length interview where we dive into all things crypto, blockchain, web 3 and what the future withholds For Peter navigating this space. So, without further ado, everybody welcome Peter Espino onto the show. Thanks for doing this tonight. Welcome to the having a poor podcast.
Speaker 2:Hey, thanks for having me on. Excited to be on here and you know, talk about anything like your audience wants to hear.
Speaker 1:Awesome man. Just for a little bit of context, you and I met at the blockchain futures conference through a mutual buddy, alex Cooper, and we're just talking a little bit about that before before we started recording here. But you know what's your, what was your experience like at the blockchain futures conference?
Speaker 2:Well, for me I was pretty busy just because I was. I was speaking on a panel there and then the company that I'm a board member of was actually doing the hybrid portion of the conference, meaning it was doing it in the metaverse at the same time the conference was actually happening. So I was just there to actually run point and make sure that everybody was you know there was no hiccups get in contact with the event organizers and then also just making sure that we're keeping up with everything from the marketing stuff and letting the people know. It was very important just because we were streaming the main stage Speakers into the metaverse in the central, and so getting up with that team and make sure the dots are connected, people are talking to the right people to funnel that media over there and keep in sync with the agenda was uh, I was like pretty stressful.
Speaker 1:Was it a? Was it a good kind of stress or all negative? I?
Speaker 2:Was a good stress, but I mean to me it was like I wanted to be negative so I can make sure that you know we're on point and we're getting it done. So I was, you know, probably grew a couple of gray hairs.
Speaker 1:I just asked that because I'm doing a presentation tomorrow on anxiety and stress and kind of how there's good stresses and bad stresses and where to kind of Indicate you know what we can do to mitigate those things. But yeah, man, you said a lot of interesting things there. Before we get too far ahead, maybe you can just give us a little bit of information about your background.
Speaker 2:So I have a pretty unique background. I did it was in the military for 12 years the special operations, was managing them, and then also after that, was an operational manager for Pepsi. That's where I started growing gray hairs and then, and then I got into crypto. But the funny part of how I got into crypto was during the pandemic. I was really good at analyzing and and me and someone partnered up and we created our own paid discord Based on stock trading, options trading and penny stocks. So we had a paid membership 70 bucks a month or 70 700 a year and we educated, you know, people in our discord on stuff that we saw. We put our plays out there. We invited the community to put their plays out there. That was my first step in anything with community management and scaling and marketing because, you know, I had to learn it all my own. I didn't have Trading, so the first thing I did was I looked at all the the discords that were doing the same thing, stuff that they were not doing I would incorporate in hours. I saw some discords where no one can talk, only the the owners can. No one was teaching people. So, you know, just filling that gap in is what made us stand out. But so that was during the pandemic. I got out work for Pepsi and someone from that discord group. Since I was working at Pepsi, I had to give it up. The hours were just not coinciding with my schedule so I gave it to my partner Foley. The funny part is someone from that Discord messaged me about crypto and I knew about Bitcoin and whatnot but he was like no, no, it trades just like stocks. I'm like all right. So I got involved with the I don't know how long you've been crypto.
Speaker 2:The whole Wonderland fiasco. What was Wonderland? Again, it was a DeFi project. There was like I think there was like cascading liquidations from some. Some thought about one of the founders, a rumor that he was like criminal or something and then the price just started tanking. But I got into it because I got hypnotized by. On the app, it said like if you deposit this amount in seven years, you could have 10 Lambo's or something like that. So I was like I was getting all hyped up. I was new to the space. So I was like, oh cool, all right, this is simple.
Speaker 1:So how long ago was that?
Speaker 2:Oh, that was about, I think, three or four years ago.
Speaker 1:Okay, okay, yeah.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah, I definitely don't.
Speaker 1:Don't worry about it. I've definitely foamed into some projects when I when I first got into man.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, but I think it's good because, instead of me walking away from crypto, I ended up. I was like you know what? I want to learn more. So I started researching about DeFi applications and I saw the the innovative technology that was going on and being built, and that was when I decided this is going to be the future, let me. And then I took I, I yeeted my career from Pepsi. It's a jump in the crypto and just get my foot in early and you know, just see it. And ever since then, you know it's been a wild ride. But it's awesome to see the technology that's growing, the innovative stuff that's popping up and seeing more projects create that onboarding experience to onboard non-crypto people into theirs. I think they're finally starting to see that and I'm happy to see that it's people are starting to, or companies are starting to, address that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so people I always say people come through to Bitcoin and crypto through different ambitions or different motivations, and you know mine was certainly multifaceted and you know I'm not going to sit here and say I'm not here for for some gains as well as everything else and the revolution that's going on with everything. But so would you say then, was it like this decentralized ethos that kind of brought you in, or was it the money making, or like what kind of motivated you to think, or was it just because it was trendy? Like what are your thoughts around that?
Speaker 2:Well, to be honest, I thought it was just trendy and, like I said, I'm sort of a risk taker. But I saw that companies were hiring for you know legit positions like marketing, sales and what, and I was like there's got to be something going on If a company is spending enough capital to you know hire positions with that amount of salary as well, like they're competing with regular tech companies like Metta and Google. So I was like you know what? There's something here. So that's why I just full yeeted in there and just going at it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think you made a really good decision, man. I think you know this is going to be the most revolutionary industry on humanity that we've seen since the internet. And you know, although I'm a blue chip crypto investor, I like to stay up to see what kind of other decentralized projects are coming up. You know what kind of infrastructure is being built. You know where would you like to go next in this industry?
Speaker 2:There's a lot of open venues, especially with Web3 and blockchain. You know I'm seeing gaming companies jump into it. You know your regular DeFi tech. You have the NFT side, the art side, I still see I was at the AgTech ones with agriculture and environment, so it's pretty endless. I would like to, I like to DeFi stuff, but I also I would like to get into the gaming industry with Web3 and crypto. I think there's also a big thing there and I know the ZK thing is pretty big. A lot of projects are starting to adapt that technology because it stays true with the whole Web3 ethos. Right, Web2 was all about getting tracked and Web3 is the opposite. Now it's like we're moving backwards. Web2 was all about, like, everything being tracked, right, you know, with Meta, knowing where your location, knowing what you're doing, your status and all that.
Speaker 2:And now Web3 is all about the opposite. You know, not being tracked and whatnot. I think ZK technology is starting to move like I think push it more there, because now it's that zero knowledge proof instead of going on ether scan and Playing detective. You can't even do that with the ZK. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 1:I think there's, yeah, there's gonna be a regulatory Probably defining moment where, in each country, where they say you know what's what, can you use them and what can't you use, and KYC laws as well, with with some of these things, I'm I really don't know what the direct, that direction is gonna go in. Where are you based out of?
Speaker 2:me. I'm in Virginia, in the Virginia Beach, Norfolk area, so anyone's watching this, you know. Come say hi yeah man for sure You're in that area.
Speaker 1:What do you like to do when you're when you're not need to be in crypto and web three?
Speaker 2:If it's summer, I become a beach bomb. I'll surf, go hiking, fishing and just enjoy nature, especially Crypto. Most of them is work from home, so it's always good to get like fresh air and, you know, just Get in touch with nature for a bit. Because other than that, if I'm working, my face is glued to a laptop or a computer screen. So you gotta, you gotta, keep recenting that cycle.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I definitely agree with you. Just saying this on my last episode, like where we're getting disconnected from nature. We're always glued to our phones a little too much, man. So work hard and play hard, get out, man, get that nature, get that stress Well, get those stress levels down that we were talking about.
Speaker 2:I mean, I'm even guilty of it of just sometimes I notice like I'm being on my phone. I walking around, I'm outside on the beach and I'm on my phone. I like what am I doing? I like chuck it in my book back and jump in the ocean or something.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I think we're a lot of us were becoming addicted to Information and news. There's always something happening and something you can learn like there's just so much information out there and and Our lives seem so short now in comparison to what's out there and what you get the potential each person has right. So my next question is you know challenges in the DeFi space? You know what do you see is some of the biggest hurdles for mainstream adoption for DeFi platforms?
Speaker 2:I think the biggest thing still is the education and just getting people to understand it. I have some friends where I was like they ever thought about it and they're like I don't know anything about it, so I'm not gonna jump into it, type of mindset. So I think it's the whole Not the whole mass adoption, but creating the best onboarding experience. If I was gonna. You know, every project should have something where they're gonna explain it to a five-year-old or you know, someone just doesn't know a thing about even finance stuff, on how to better connect the dots, so they know what their application does or how it helps them or how it provides more yield.
Speaker 2:We do slippage, etc. I think that is always the biggest thing because we can always cater to. You know us crypto people. We know the talk, we know the lingo and whatnot. But when you're you know talking to an outsider, you're gonna melt their brain. If you don't, you know, provide the right, the right words, or if you just start throwing terms out, they'll be like, oh well, let me pick up my brain because you just blew it up with all these words of slippage. And you know LP, liquidity provision and whatnot.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's quickly overwhelming this space and even so on, like myself, who podcasts and talk to people about it, like I'm always feel like I'm falling behind there's always something new, something innovative. Is there something in the space that that's innovative, that's going on that you think might be a game changer?
Speaker 2:for, like non crypto people or people in this ecosystem, because I know there's a whole like Vee three. I can't forget what's called long is that retro.
Speaker 2:So retro on polygon did some their their app. It's more on like they created a automatic Marketplace like an AMM marketplace on their app. So I come me I was working for with before each. I know there's gamma on there and it's pretty much, you know, a place where people can go to Earn, yield and utilize different strategies, but also projects can launch on them as well, and so it's like bringing every actually bringing it people and projects together. So that's a cool thing. And Also they have Voting on it as well. They got bribes on it. You know it gets pretty in-depth technical. I suggest just going on their app and reading about it, but I liked what they did and I look what they're doing in the space. I think that can be a game changer in the DeFi world or at least in the liquidity management side. Are you an advocate?
Speaker 1:of you know, cold storage, not your keys, not your coins.
Speaker 2:then oh yeah, I mean, I'm all about the, the DeFi, dj and Web3 side of actually everything being a transparent, being able to see it and whatnot. And yeah, I agree with that motto and say are you like heavily allocated into into one position?
Speaker 1:Are you pretty diversified in this space?
Speaker 2:So I recently actually because of futures conference, I recently Get got some of the sheep token and join the sheba army.
Speaker 1:Oh, wow.
Speaker 2:Yeah, just because the stuff I saw at the conference was interesting and you know the company I'm a board member of the stuff with the metaverse and they were showcasing the sheba metaverse stuff and it was in. There was the graphic. It was not unity, was on a real engine, so it looks like a ps5, ps4 graphics. Wow, I actually, you know, shopped and got some land in the sheba metaverse.
Speaker 1:No way Okay.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, Full send and all right, let's see what happens.
Speaker 1:So funny thing. We were hanging out in the the cabana pool. Alex was there and he started floating away. Well, he's like doing an interview and this guy grabs him from the pool and he starts going off on sheba. He's saying he's a scam. He said go on their website, look at the company's involved. He was like big, he was going on a rant saying that she was a skin. You got to go check it out. It's what it's on our, on our youtuber, any of my podcast platforms but if you want to watch the video, this guy just goes off on sheba man. So I would just watch it just to get two opinions there. So what did you learn? Like, what made you want to invest into it?
Speaker 2:Oh, like, I met some of the people from the team, some people from the projects that were building on it. You know, I got involved with the whole, like, looking at their their booth I mean they dropped a lot of capital though. Really put the brand out there. Yeah, it's like I, to me as like if it was a scam, I you wouldn't be spending this much money to. You know, really Try and prove your point. And then they have a. They had a pretty cool sticker.
Speaker 2:I was like not a meme, it's a movement. So I think they're they're really trying the foundation, they're really trying to cross that border, you know, and really provide a use case with the whole sheberry and all that stuff. It's a pretty cool community. I'm in there. And then, yeah, I even met another influencer that was an advocate for it and the people, like when he was streaming on it to his followers, they were, you know, they're all about it. So it seems like also cool movement. So that's why that's why I got into it, it's why I jumped into getting some metaverse stuff, property, you know, let's see, let's see what happens. That that's part of the crypto game. Anyway, you know, it's yeah, nothing's uh, nothing's for sure in our, in our ecosystem.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, if I'm, if I'm to play devil's advocate a little bit here, uh, like it's amazing how much money that some of these projects that go down have spent on on marketing. Like FTX paid 135 million dollars for the naming rights of a stadium and then only to get to only go down and then like Cryptocom paid like 800 million for the rights of the stadium. Now they haven't, you know, gone under or anything. But people spend a lot of money on marketing.
Speaker 2:It's crazy yeah yeah, well, I mean the whole after I still, to be honest, I never looked into like the full details of why it went down. I have like sort of a sense of it, but I mean I don't know. There's plenty of projects like that in the space also that are doing the same thing. I mean, what about um last year with the whole Celsius thing and that crazy short squeeze along with it, and I don't even know the full news behind it. But I just see there's a lot of crazy stories. I call always call web 3 and crypto the wild, wild west.
Speaker 1:Oh, oh, for sure, man, for sure. Yeah, ftx. Basically, you know, didn't have enough, didn't have enough money at the end of the day to cover people's. It was just a liquidity crisis, so just like mismanagement of funds.
Speaker 1:Remember not, yeah, yeah, so I mean it's all ongoing stuff and I'm sure it'll be, you know, tied up in courts for three years to come, but at the end of the day, you don't have enough money to cover your people. That's that's why I got what here. I usually point people towards Bit by. They have a one-to-one reserve and they're fully Transparent and I haven't had any issues with them. Really, there they're fully compliant. Like if someone doesn't know what they're doing in crypto and they're just want to buy some Bitcoin or buy some Ethereum, I usually send them there to bit by, or or if they're just doing Bitcoin and maybe Bitcoin well, or something like that, and I think these platforms that you're interested in Kind of come down the road unless they get entered through that way, and then they're kind of all in on the game. Fine, and D and D phi things.
Speaker 2:What do you think? Oh yeah, I've heard like a bit by, and some of them you listed. Um, I don't, but there's so many exchanges I can't keep track of them. There's always like a bunch of. I know it's the big ones, but you know, like you said, bit by. We have crack in coin base, crypto com, even the ones over in Asia, uh, like a Ku Koi binance.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and whatnot, yeah.
Speaker 2:So I mean yeah, who knows. It's almost like when that f2x stuff happened at the beginning of this year. Do you remember those? There was like banks also collapsing as well.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I was gonna get a lot worse.
Speaker 2:And then I think for a day USDC D pegged or something like that, or a couple hours for a little bit. So yeah, oh man.
Speaker 1:Did you? Did you see that PayPal launch its own stable coin?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I tried to look it up but I don't know. Maybe you know what is the? What was their motive for that?
Speaker 1:I'm taking a lot of stuff about stable coins right now and you know people, people are using them and people like to Sell the top but not exit crypto. So they go into, go into these stable coins or you know you can stake them. Do you use them?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know companies, like some companies I've been with, have used them to Either pay for services, maybe contract pay contractors, and then also use it to pay employees. So yeah, I've used them before. I've only messed around with USDC, so I haven't done with like die or USDT or there's a. There's a plethora stable coins now I believe yeah, definitely man.
Speaker 1:So we were talking about, you know, the, obviously the futures conference where we met, and you have some events. What, what events do you have coming up?
Speaker 2:token 2049?. I'll be there. And then main net Misari in New York City, kind of more excited for the one in Singapore, just because I've never been there and I saw that site over a hundred events or side events going on, and then they also have the F1 Grand Prix as well, so I'm excited for that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, kidding man, I did go to Singapore. I was. I flew into Singapore in early 2018, then went to Thailand and I actually met a few people off the blockchain cruise and Paradise Beach in a near Patong in Phuket in Thailand. So I was there for for a good week in a couple days and then went back to Singapore. I just kind of checked out the city for for a couple days there. Man, it's, it's wild and it really makes me feel like we're really behind over here. What after after leaving Singapore, man. So, oh really, yeah, I'm excited for you.
Speaker 2:Man seems very futuristic over there the hotel where the yes, with the venues that it looks like a boat on top of three buildings.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the Marina Bay Sands man. It's, it's, it's awesome. I didn't go in the pool, but I went up to the top. You don't have to like be a guest there or whatever. You can just like take the elevator up I can't remember there, I think there might have been like a $20 charge or something like that but takes you to the top but you overlook the city in the harbor. It's, it's pretty freaking cool man.
Speaker 1:All right that's worth it. Yeah, it sounds like it'll be worth it. Oh, yeah, yeah, definitely one of those elite cities, man, that I'd Move there in a heartbeat if I could. Moment, maybe I, maybe I will one day, you never know.
Speaker 2:Interesting, yeah, wait till, wait till you go man, let me know, I'll make that you get back, man, let me know, send you pictures, oh, holy crap.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm gonna open it up. I'll open it up for you, peter. There's anything we haven't talked about they'd like to mention? Or, or ask me, or, if not, Maybe just let us know where we can follow you and learn more.
Speaker 2:You can follow me on on Twitter. I don't really not. I mean, I'm sort of active on there or also on Instagram to see where I'm at in the world. I know I'll be traveling a lot. I'm exploring opportunities of sort of a free agent now, so I'll be, you know, and networking at Singapore very heavily, as well as in New York City and mainnet. But you know, for for me, actually, I would love to know. You know, how did you guys, how did you guys started with the podcast? I think this is pretty cool. You know, I've never been on a platform like this and you know it's awesome to be on it with you. And you know I met you and you're an awesome person, so I always want to know your story. I'm pretty sure your followers were, but yeah, no about it. But I like to know how you got into being like a podcaster for web 3 and crypto stuff.
Speaker 1:Yeah, man, I appreciate you asking me and saying that I got in the space in in 2017. I got in. Bitcoin was going nuts on the up. I think it hit 4,000 for the first time.
Speaker 1:Remember hearing about it like way back in like 2012 when I was studying, you know, public policy at Brock University and I just the politics kind of lined up with me with with Bitcoin. You know, I see it as a obviously a tool of freedom, a New technology and a philosophical discovery, and that just kind of made me want to learn as much and absorb as much as I can about this space, like invest heavily into it because of my strong belief and my belief that it's a, you know, a protest to the Injustices of the current system. So I just kind of really felt strongly about it and was investing heavily into it. And then I was very active on Twitter, which I come in, I go and spurts I'm on Twitter, I'm active, I go go on a break and I'm back at it again and just kind of go through cycles there. And it was connecting with people in the industry and I'm like what can I do? What can I do? That's that I have a skill for and To do in this because I'm not. I'm not a developer. I know like a little bit took a little bit of Python, but I'm not not a full-fledged developer, so I can't really. I don't really have any input in that capacity. I'd love to learn, but just kind of the skill set that I had, I kind of like I think it's a podcast and I didn't really want to start a podcast.
Speaker 1:It was 2019, I felt like it was saturated and I look at it more like today and it's even much more saturated. But it's basically my and my ambition for the space, and the buddies you met of mine at the Futures conference are lifelong friends of mine and I've gotten them all pretty heavily into the crypto space now as well. So so they're pretty diehard, so they love, they're willing to come out there, help me promote and, you know, do some marketing on other occasions as well. So that's awesome. Yeah, man, I'm not sure if I fully answered your question there, but yeah, that's that's kind of how I got in, just kind of fell in love with the space really quickly, and you've been using Twitter as a really good tool to connect with people in the space. Do we keep calling?
Speaker 2:it Twitter, or do we call it X now?
Speaker 1:Well, well, here's the thing. At the time it was Twitter, so I feel like referring to Twitter, yeah as I kind of developed is appropriate, but I think I'm gonna try to just call myself myself out.
Speaker 2:I was like follow me on Twitter. I was like oh yeah, X, X formerly Twitter.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you really gotta you know what, though?
Speaker 2:It's kind of getting there.
Speaker 1:I mentioned that to like a normie person today and they could, they got it. They were like, oh yeah, x, yeah yeah, whatever, like they kind of, just kind of they know, but they're, they just follow me.
Speaker 2:I don't know.
Speaker 1:What's your general feeling of that? Are people people willing to accept X or do you think people wish it stayed in Twitter?
Speaker 2:Do they have a choice? Nope it's a choice.
Speaker 1:It's a one-man show over there now it's like yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:So I mean I think it's cool the whole rebranding of it. Maybe it's it's what's needed, you know, especially if he maybe he's gonna do some changes to it. I've heard some news about, about you know, crypto might be Enabled on the app or something like that. Don't quote me, but I think I forgot where I read it and you know some people jumped on it or it was like maybe doge is gonna be, yeah, corporate on X, maybe Ship is gonna be incorporated on it, yeah.
Speaker 2:I remember I think I saw an article About like a rumor dropping and then of course I checked the price of ship and doge and of course it had a big spike. So yeah of course, man. You know, you never know with Elon Elon. Elon likes a surprise, yeah that's there's.
Speaker 1:That's 100% true man. He's made a lot of changes, almost like too too quick for me after falling in love with the platform and then he took over and he made. He's making all these vast changes and it's I think it's changing the way a lot of people have to operate. Now you know now that you can upload like full one hour or two hour length videos On the Twitter, so it's like people are generally.
Speaker 2:Oh really.
Speaker 1:Yeah, people generally posted their YouTube. It didn't happen on there. Now it's like do you provide the YouTube? You just upload it yourself. Some kind of exploring with that. I've uploaded a, the new episode, newest episode that I launched. I uploaded the whole video rate to Twitter right to X. Sorry, I gotta get out of that habit man, I gotta get out of that habit.
Speaker 2:The same and same. So, yeah, I think it's. What about this new app called threads? Have you heard of that?
Speaker 1:Oh god, I heard threads was dead man. That's what. That's what I heard. I've posted. I have it. Yeah, I, but I don't post very often. What about you?
Speaker 2:I got an invite to it because I didn't even I forgot what it was called or what it was. I Installed it and it literally looked just like X, so I just uninstalled it. I was like I, I don't, I'm not big on social media, anyway, yeah, so having too much of that crap on my phone, it just takes up space and it's not gonna be used. I was like you know what I got a more active on X. Yeah, you know, it's funny that that's almost like the news outlet for Crypto and web 3 news. They all get posted on there. You know people write threads. You know, do Twitter spaces or shit X spaces?
Speaker 1:and all that stuff. So and you know what I think, will use thing for crypto.
Speaker 1:I think that goes beyond. Yeah, like it is where the crypto community lives. However, I feel like it's like the main source of news for everything. Like you watch news stations, they they're quoting people from Twitter because that's where people, that's where people are speaking. So that's, yes, that's where Elon Musk is is posting news, whether it's crypto or not. But, yeah, you're 100% right, man, that's where you know crypto Twitter is the thing, bitcoin Twitter is the thing, and that's that's where I continue to you. That's my number one resource.
Speaker 1:I don't even watch the news anymore.
Speaker 2:Oh no no, I watch the news anymore, I just use. I use X or yeah, whatever you call. That is my neck news source.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, you, definitely you know you get the news right from the source, you're not fiddling around with commercials. You know cable TV's been long but I'll do, like the YouTube news channels and the kind of like, stream it to my Google Chrome to my TV. I'll do that sometimes but oh, yeah, yeah but other than that, yeah, I'm just.
Speaker 1:You just get it quickly Like what's trending, what's what's going on right now. So I totally agree with you there. But, yeah, man, that's, that was kind of, that's kind of my been my story. I'm not sure if you had anything else you wanted to add Thanks for having me on the this podcast.
Speaker 2:You know, if you see me, like I said, I'll be out in token 2049. I would love to meet you. I'll be out of mainnet also if anyone's at listing or watching this. And you know I'll be out there just networking and, you know, exploring, also exploring Singapore first time there. Yeah, so actually, yeah, right, maybe should give me some travel tips or some cool. I must see spaces. I'm actually. The prices were crazy, for sure, man, it's going on the same time as the F1 Grand Paris, so I ended up staying in a hostel for a couple days, oh, and then switching. So can be very social.
Speaker 1:Yeah, these, these events are very social, man, unfortunately I won't be there at token, but I wish you all the best. Man, hopefully we can collaborate in the future. You know, if there's anything you know we can add to each other's portfolios, I'd love to connect man. Other than that, thanks for doing the have an report podcast. I'll definitely be in touch.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I enjoyed it. You know, if you guys ever have like multiple guests on at the same time or is usually just like a One-on-one, it's always been one-on-one, except for the few solo episodes that I've had.
Speaker 1:But yeah, are you? Did you have something in mind? If you do, let me know man.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, I'm open to you know, hopping on if you're in need of a guest talk about a subject or if you decide to have multiple people.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I always like doing these things. I think it's good for for the community to keep giving them content to keep them interested. Thanks for having me and you know this is an awesome podcast and more than open to it's a hopping on and Discussing more stuff. This is my first time, so you know I was a little more reserved, but maybe I'll read some comments and when your, if your followers are like he's boring, if you have me back on, I'll be more, more wild.
Speaker 1:Yeah, man people. Yeah, well, one of my friends did that to me. He's like you got to be more animated and crazy on your show. I'm like, well, I don't want to be like someone. I'm completely not. I don't want to be like a full-on character. I want to actually have a conversation here. But yeah, I'm sure we'll have great feedback.
Speaker 2:Awesome, yeah, yeah, burn me the whoever's I can be like all right, I'll be myself and I'll just I don't know, yeah and I'll, maybe I'll shotgun a beer or something before the episode starts or during the episode.
Speaker 1:Yeah, man, that's what I was thinking too like. Maybe get some joints and beers going, I don't know, gonna spice up the half an report next time Feel feel like the web three of the Joe Rogan podcast exactly exactly Elon Musk. All right. Well, when we do it again, let's do it next time, all right, all right.
Speaker 2:I will have alcohol stuck up right next to me. Okay, perfect.
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