Season 7 Finale - Portal Talk

The final pod of Season 7. Update on the Transfer Portal additions and losses. 

Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:12

Oh, this is good. Come on, come on. B L U B A Y S. We did it. There we go. Oh my god. It's been a year, huh? It's been quite a year. Welcome back, my friends, to the show that never ends. It is Blue Jays at the B. I'm your host, Jack Jeffrey, joined by my colleagues Pat Coder and Patrick Hawk. How you guys doing? I'm great.

SPEAKER_01 0:56

Oh, finally made it back from Vegas yesterday. So great.

SPEAKER_02 1:01

So Sophia left you.

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You know, we're it's fluid.

SPEAKER_02 1:08

This is this is the season seven finale of Blue Jays of the Beat, which is quite amazing to me. Um we've we've we've done this for that long, being complete idiots and talking about creating Blue Jays bass.

SPEAKER_03 1:25

Like I know, yeah. The funny thing is um the like episode log on Spotify or on SoundCloud. I really want to go back and just listen to one or two of those just sitting putting a phone down on our on a table. There's always like nine of us, too.

SPEAKER_02 1:45

It was just us screaming into an iPhone.

SPEAKER_03 1:49

The most big sounding room of all time.

SPEAKER_02 1:53

Just productive, you know, the BSN really helped out. And shout out to Christian Vinjamurray who is away but helped start this. And we have to.

SPEAKER_01 2:03

Ruber has it, he's playing a little Bobo B right now. Well, you know, he's spinning the slots.

SPEAKER_02 2:09

Oh, he's gonna lose a billion. He was crushing when I was out there with him, man.

SPEAKER_01 2:15

He just he just kept winning.

SPEAKER_03 2:16

He always plays the poker, the bar side poker ones, and he always is just like by the time I get a drink, he always just is pulling it out, like pulling his ticket out, and he's like, Yeah, it's won 25 bucks.

SPEAKER_01 2:29

He did so much better than I did when I stayed with him. It was absolutely phenomenal.

SPEAKER_02 2:34

You're supposed to be our gambling expert. We were playing slots. Anyways, Blue Jays have to be here, and we have to lead this off in the finale of season seven with a bush. Bavarian. Cheers, everybody. Cheers. Creating Blue Jays, it's a good year, sad year. That's how I kind of put it. Um, not quite what we wanted, and yet I'm not so mad. You know, finishing fifth in the Big East, um, everything that has gone down, it's been crazy. And I and I I still hold my head high.

SPEAKER_03 3:24

What do you think, Pat? Yeah, I think um given everything that happened, um, yeah, like it really could have been worse. Like, I think because it happened so early in the year, the Jackson injury kind of just got swept like aside where that that was such a such a big loss for us that um I like I didn't feel like we talked about it enough in the year.

SPEAKER_02 3:53

Because he was supposed to be really, really, really good. Well, I think it's good that you you said swept under the rug. And I think that's an a real opinion that most Creighton fans have. Um, especially us, you know, we never really thought of oh, how much could he impact these games, especially when we talk about it after our postgames. It's I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 4:19

It's like you we would have talked about it more if Owen was good and we were just like, uh, like if Owen was good and we were good, like fringe top 25 or something like that, then we would have been like, oh, imagine if we had Jackson on this team. Instead of like us just kind of being dog sh pretty dog shit, and we're just like, oh yeah, Owen's really, really bad, so it's all bad.

SPEAKER_02 4:47

But Coder, what do you think?

SPEAKER_01 4:50

Kind of followed up on Hawk. Yeah, I did we could have had Jackson in there, that wasn't gonna solve yeah I mean that that might have won you a game, maybe two. Uh but no, Jackson, I mean that wasn't gonna solve Jason Green playing the five. That wasn't gonna solve pretty much every issue across the board, uh, primarily defensively. Uh it wasn't gonna solve ball handling, that wasn't really gonna solve any of the big ticket issues. So it all kind of starts and ends with uh what you bought in the portal last year, what you're buying in the portal this year.

SPEAKER_02 5:27

And and we will get to that for sure. It also has been quite a uh tumultuous. Yeah, tumul I can't speak no good. It's caught in my mouth no good. Um almost knowing that Greg McDermott is leaving, but we didn't quite know that. And so people are you know in and out. Um but i i it it's interesting to me like how they all stuck through it together, and you know, Josh losing his mother, that's a huge deal. And and still going for it and playing hard and you know, beating, I mean, the fact that we beat Villanova in Philadelphia, uh UConn and Stores, that's a big deal.

SPEAKER_03 6:26

Yeah, still finish fifth in the Big East, which obviously down Big East, but still on a year that we'd classify as you know a bad year, still getting a buy in the Big East tournament, nothing to scoff at.

SPEAKER_02 6:39

Yeah, and nothing to really get sad about.

SPEAKER_01 6:43

Um, and I know that you we the crowd is minuscule, but still having those guys committed to going out there regardless of performance. I mean, owing is what owen is there, but he was still at least willing and able to go out there and attempt to put some minutes in. Jackson was still bought in to go out there, hang out with the guys, be a part of the team, which clearly I mean huge that he's returning. No, it didn't end the way we wanted, but did I get to go to Greg McDermott's last ever press conference? Shit, yeah, I did.

SPEAKER_02 7:11

It's cool. That that is cool.

SPEAKER_01 7:14

Yeah, it was me and Rob Anderson. We had a and and Raz. It was the big three, yes, I'm like to call it. Uh we had a gale tough.

SPEAKER_03 7:22

Yeah, yeah, we haven't recorded since you you were a correspondent at the crown.

SPEAKER_01 7:27

Yeah, hopefully that's the first and the last time. But uh no, it was cool because it's kind of loosely structured to the point that you could kind of pick and choose what you were up to. There was no you gotta go here, you gotta go there. Nobody so I just kind of sat behind the bench.

SPEAKER_03 7:45

Did you just email them or like fill out?

SPEAKER_01 7:48

Yeah, I just I just googled it, and like eight minutes later, there was like 11 questions, and I put N slash A for like eight of them. And it's so like your affiliate, and I just said blue jeans at the B slash Twitter handle and got immediate approval. And the man that approved it was not happy with his decision. I'll let you write immediately. I got yelled at before I was talking to Mitch and McQueen in the tunnel before the first game started, and he grabbed me and goes, delete that picture. I don't know what you're talking about. But no, it was it was cool, it was unique, but circling back, I was just glad to see all the guys out there, but everyone still gives a shit.

SPEAKER_02 8:29

The crown literally thinks of us as a full-on MBC. Uh I know.

SPEAKER_03 8:35

I imagine if your press pass said Blue Jays at the B, God, that'd be we'd frame that here.

SPEAKER_01 8:40

Oh, we we frame it anyways, but it's alright.

SPEAKER_03 8:44

Yeah, for our first, like, yeah, some restaurants have like frame their first dollar.

SPEAKER_02 8:49

It's only up from here, yeah. Our first dollar was like from before Kennedy was shot dead. Uh okay. Uh welcome to Parrot's Party Cord and the B-Bar. Greg is a legend. I know we talked about this already, but going from the valley to the Big East and you know, leaving on this note is a little bit sad. Yet good job. You know. I think there's no reason to to cower or be in s like you don't look back in anger. Sorry, I'm looking at the Oasis flag.

SPEAKER_03 9:36

Um well, and especially with like our retention of you know, guys we really wanted to keep. I think that it really um it leaves a much better taste in your mouth than if Max suddenly left, suddenly retired, and then you know, it's uh at you know Jackson, Hudson, especially with uh Jason all hit the portal, and then you're like, what the fuck?

SPEAKER_02 10:02

And and the people that he's brought in, aka Mo Watson, um Marcus Foster, you know, these players that shout out Cole Huff. Cole Huff. Oh, love Cole Huff.

SPEAKER_01 10:14

That might be my new Greg Gregory. I uh I actually talked to Cole out in Vegas. He was at the games for I didn't get it, but it's talk to P. Allen. I apologize. He was in high demand.

SPEAKER_02 10:26

But uh that's the coolest thing I hear.

SPEAKER_03 10:28

Is he uh he that had to feel so good for him because it looked like so many people wanted this picture yet? Like could you imagine wearing a celebrity again?

SPEAKER_01 10:36

Wearing your own jersey like 16 years later at the college basketball crowd. You're a bartender. That's cool. People excited to see him. But yeah, no, Cole actually, I mean that's that's a hoop head. Cole Huff fucking rocks. I just want to go back to the city.

SPEAKER_03 10:54

He still works in basketball, right? Like he does.

SPEAKER_01 10:56

Uh he so he was covering the aces and this and that. I think he's veered a little bit off of it. But yeah, we I mean we talked WMBA, we talked college, we talked MBA. I cornered him for five, ten minutes, and I I think I'm gonna pivot to being a Cole Huff guy in the future.

SPEAKER_03 11:11

Oh, yeah. Well, I always have that.

SPEAKER_01 11:12

Was it a Wednesday night against when he just went for like 30 something uh 39 or something?

SPEAKER_03 11:18

Uh huh. Oh is that a DePaul game? Oh, is that a seaton? I'm randomly thinking Satan Hall, maybe when he did that, but it was unbelievable.

SPEAKER_02 11:28

Um, Cole Huff is somebody that is often overlooked as you know, Blue Jays fans forgetting about him. Which is, you know, it's fair to but guess what? Greg McDermott brought him to Omaha for a reason, and he did exactly his job, and more so.

SPEAKER_03 11:50

Um it's um you know, guys that like that we had really never heard of before. They're always just so fun, like especially kind of early internet days, really pre uh like transfer portal being like huge, so it's not like you could follow who's talking to who.

SPEAKER_02 12:12

Would Cole have to sit out? It was still the sit out era, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 12:16

And then like, you know, Damian Jefferson, you know, coming from New Mexico. I never fucking heard of Damian Jefferson.

SPEAKER_01 12:23

Famously recruited and brought along with head coach Al Huss.

SPEAKER_03 12:28

Really?

SPEAKER_01 12:29

Yeah, he brought him from New Mexico. Oh, unless I'm mistaken. Oh hey. I'm not, but we covered by the stuff.

SPEAKER_02 12:39

Of course, I mean that just simply makes too much sense. Yeah, duh. But of course, Greg brought the the best of Creighton players in and we're still new to this this era in the NBA. Um but right now it looks like you know Kox doing wonders in Charlotte. Um Baylor is pretty much helped.

SPEAKER_03 13:05

He's like part of the rotation, part of the rotation in the playoffs for one of the title figures.

SPEAKER_02 13:10

That's not even the not even the playoffs. Baylor literally was money, absolute money leading up to it, you know, when they're resting or Jalen is uh while they were waiting for Jason Tatum to come back.

SPEAKER_01 13:28

A lot of people were theorizing that they were just plugging Baylor Shireman into the Jason Tatum role. It's like, well, if he can do it, imagine what Jason Tatum's gonna do. Follow up. The fact that Jalen Brown is made up, everyone calls him Big Shot Bob, and NBA Twitter has just taken over on it.

SPEAKER_02 13:47

He shot that down quick.

SPEAKER_01 13:48

It didn't work. He's now Big Shot Bob. Sorry, B. Sorry, B.

SPEAKER_02 13:53

Oh. From Aurora Nebraska.

SPEAKER_03 13:57

You know what that honestly leads me to believe is that people actually did and he just didn't like it. So he's like, no. One of the nicknames that you don't like originally that ends up sticking way more.

SPEAKER_01 14:10

Sorry, brother.

SPEAKER_02 14:11

It's uh you know, like a lot of people call me fat Jack. I don't like that. Um I just you know, but you know what? I'll allow it. Um because I'm fat. Um anyways. But Greg's done such a great job of bringing us from the valley to the Big East, and we love that, and we've touched on that the last podcast. We know. But I think he's left this program in great hands, especially with Alan Huss saying, Fuck High Point, I'm coming home. And the portal is something that a lot of coaches don't want to touch. And I think Alan is inept at saying fuck that. Like I can deal with this this environment. Um Jay Wright said no. Greg's like, I'm out, you know.

SPEAKER_03 15:15

Yeah, it's just a different uh it's just like a different kind of roster management than probably when all those guys that are stepping down now ever could have ever imagined.

SPEAKER_02 15:26

It's it's like it's weird seeing, like, you know, I was built for this shit.

SPEAKER_03 15:32

I feel like Al was built for that. I feel like this is I feel like he like has fun.

SPEAKER_01 15:36

I mean, yeah, it feels weird referencing high school, but the Lalube days.

SPEAKER_03 15:41

It feels like uh you're essentially.

SPEAKER_01 15:43

Those are the kind of guys that he coached. Before there was NIL, Portal, all that shit. I was wheeling, dealing, hustling from the jump.

SPEAKER_03 15:51

Yeah, when you're one of those national high school programs, you essentially are just recruiting nationwide. You're doing basically what you're doing now, phrase pay differently, which is awesome. And then you go to a place like High Point where you have the resources and you can really kind of construct your roster with um with guys in in some cash and have success there. I like it.

SPEAKER_01 16:20

So so I'd like to go there.

SPEAKER_02 16:24

The portal and everything. Let's start going to that. Um so we have a lot leaving. We have Josh, senior, Nick Graves leaving like both seniors, so not portaling, unless the NCAA does something crazy. Umsuit. Yeah. We have Antoine Jones. Oh, wait, no.

SPEAKER_03 16:48

Uh that was from season, that was from season two.

SPEAKER_02 16:52

Yeah, like I think he went in college.

SPEAKER_03 16:57

Wait, actually, yeah, was his signing class the Zion class of it our season two.

SPEAKER_01 17:06

No, I think 18, 19.

SPEAKER_02 17:09

I think it was class of 2019. No, no, he was he was in the same class as Zion, so that's 18. And that is like he has just like uh uh he has one that did not play, he had D M Play a couple and so he we basically had he was there when we started this about we were so doing the iPhone shit and we didn't have Mike. No, he's been going class 2018. As I said. Don't yell at me. He's been in college longer than we've had a podcast. No.

SPEAKER_03 17:51

Yeah. Yeah, pretty much. So or did we start at this in the same year? What are those?

SPEAKER_02 18:00

Oh shit. Was he a fresh he was on season one?

SPEAKER_01 18:05

Oh, would that have been the NIT year when he played here? Right.

SPEAKER_03 18:10

Oh my god. Math ain't working right now. Yeah, was our first year when we went to the NIT worked out if his waiver gets to die? God, that sounds right. It's a show that never ends.

SPEAKER_02 18:21

It's a show that never ends.

SPEAKER_03 18:24

But we keep suing the NCAA, and they're like, what you guys you guys can do your podcast. Oh my god, a 95 composite in 2018, class of 2018. We're looking at um Antoine Jones.

SPEAKER_01 18:41

I love 24-7 sports. He's so old he had to actually sit out a year. It's like, no, he was like a couple years before that rule changed.

SPEAKER_02 18:50

He got the COVID year and then like but like literally trampolineed on that and said I think he's gonna get the year too. He's gonna have to waiver.

SPEAKER_01 19:01

I think so. I don't know who wants him.

SPEAKER_02 19:04

If he wants to bartend here at the B, that's fine. Get a job, bud. Let's get employment. But leaving is Josh, Nick. We have um sorry. Josh, Nick, Blake, Blake Harper, who found a good home. Ty Davis, Owen Freeman, Fedore, Fedor, and then Caram and Alexis and Alexa.

SPEAKER_03 19:40

Alexis. Alexa. Alexis.

SPEAKER_01 19:44

Alexius. Uh whoops. Never got the chance to learn it. Sorry, bud.

SPEAKER_02 19:48

Yeah, you didn't play a minute, bud. Um That's okay.

SPEAKER_03 19:54

Yeah, really, uh I don't know who's I I said it I said it kind of this whole year. I if Blake came back, I wouldn't have been upset. I think that's it. Yeah. Because I think that he can be I think he can be very good.

SPEAKER_02 20:10

But I I really hope he does find his his home and a place that where he can develop. Yeah, VC. VCU's a perfect fit.

SPEAKER_01 20:18

They got muddy, they're building the roster, he he's gonna do well there.

SPEAKER_02 20:23

He's closer to home to DC. Yeah. Yeah, like you know, it makes sense to to me. It it was a good venture his sophomore year to come to Creighton.

SPEAKER_03 20:32

He had some good moments.

SPEAKER_02 20:34

Yeah, he had a few a few games that we loved him, a few games that we hated him.

SPEAKER_03 20:39

Um he had fun.

SPEAKER_01 20:40

We'll always have the UConn gib.

SPEAKER_03 20:43

The eight the just a great eight.

SPEAKER_01 20:45

Just to fuck it, we're out of options. Uh sure.

SPEAKER_03 20:51

And yeah, he'd he him and Fedora probably the guys that you're like, oh, if they come back, I I'd be like, alright. I wouldn't like to like build around them by any means, but yeah, um, if they came back, I'd I don't hate them as roster pieces. Everybody else? Thank you, thank you.

SPEAKER_02 21:11

You know, the thing, yeah, thank we thank ya. See ya. Um and especially Ty. Um, and we've shouted him out a lot on the podcast because we know he is a leader and he is a good man.

SPEAKER_03 21:28

But the la the last time we were last time we were on, you were adamant that Ty was staying. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, you believed. Well, believe in yourself, JJ.

SPEAKER_02 21:41

Um fuck me. Well, he just I hope I hope he succeeds. I did too, at Sanford. He's going to Sanford. I love it.

SPEAKER_03 21:51

Another guy, Owen Freeman's going to Auburn.

SPEAKER_01 21:54

Weird. The roster can sharp they signed three setters. That are all like true centers, not flex guys, but SEC.

SPEAKER_02 22:08

Owen's gonna piss his career away.

SPEAKER_03 22:14

Or he's just gonna be good and it's gonna be like, of course.

SPEAKER_01 22:18

Uh I'll bet against that.

SPEAKER_03 22:20

Owen was so Owen was so bad this year that it was like it can get worse. Oh, he's not like screwing us. Like he's just bad. You know, like I don't feel like bamboozled or anything. I was just like, oh well, he sucked.

SPEAKER_01 22:35

I don't want to dismerge because it could have just been a Vegas thing, but when I was sitting there watching him those couple games out there, I have never seen a player less engaged in the game for the bench. And you know, if there's 17,000 people chanting your name, making fun of you because you're not playing, I get that. But this was like him hearing like one person be like, Whoa, what's he up to? And he would just stare at the guy for like three minutes. It's like no one was no one said your name, and he was just staring like, Oh bro, you hear that, bro? You hear that? I was like, get over it. Did he know that he's being at like he's being asked to check in right now? He's he's staring at some guy in the 19th row that just said, Come on, get it together. Like it was bewildering to me how disengaged he was. And I get he was checked out at that point. I mean, we all knew he was gone. Uh huh. Yeah. But it was just it was fascinating.

SPEAKER_03 23:26

What's so funny is how pretty much before every game, I was just like, what if today is the day that Owen it clicks and he and he's playing well? And no, never.

SPEAKER_01 23:40

Well, there's that one.

SPEAKER_03 23:42

He had he had one, he had a good game against what Dakota? Is that it was the very first game of the year. It's like why he actually ended up averaging five.

SPEAKER_02 23:53

North Dakota and UND.

SPEAKER_01 23:57

Yeah, he had 19 points on 9 of 11 dice against uh South Dakota.

SPEAKER_02 24:05

Uh I had the wrong Dakota because we actually care about which state it is. Um but thank you.

SPEAKER_03 24:15

Thank you. Good luck.

SPEAKER_02 24:17

You know, have a go. Go find your knee.

SPEAKER_01 24:20

If he's good at Auburn, then it's like, well, it just it sucks to be him, but yeah, we're also fair to have our own displeasure with it. I think both can be true at the same time. Like, yeah, he's probably a great kid. Yeah, it didn't work out. Was it all on his control? No, but like some of it was. And I think we're allowed to be upset with the production while also understanding that it just didn't work. So if it works out for you in the SEC, who has notoriously kind fans that will be very, very happy and respectful to you at all times. Shit, he's gonna watch me play in the jungle home games. They're not even gonna they're gonna be meaner than Providence was to him. Good lord.

SPEAKER_02 25:03

Their own home fans.

SPEAKER_01 25:05

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 25:05

Yeah. But guess what? Greg is gone, and now we have the husbus.

SPEAKER_03 25:16

I was thinking about how I would do a horn, and I let me know. We should, we should we should get a uh horn downloaded for on the soundboard, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 25:33

Like a full 18-wheeler type business.

SPEAKER_02 25:35

Yeah, we can't have any of that that weak shit, but but Mitch, Trey, and Alan have done Kellogg? Kellogg's uh still there.

SPEAKER_01 25:47

I don't think he's sneaky did not think Kellogg was gonna stick around through this.

SPEAKER_03 25:53

I didn't either. It feels like a great um, you know, great retain. You know, Omaha's not that bad.

SPEAKER_01 26:00

No, but he's he's a northeast guy, and he's got some connections where Yukon had a head assistant job open up, and I was concerned. Yeah. Very fair, very fair. Saw him sneaking around the back of the T-Mobile Center.

SPEAKER_03 26:17

Do you think Yukon can just hire from within, just kind of upgrade a bunch of people? It feels like some isn't that kind of what we did.

SPEAKER_01 26:24

They got what's his name? Hey, shut up.

SPEAKER_02 26:26

Jeffrey, Jeffrey Grosella going to Utah State. Yeah. Good for him. So we're gonna need a new tablet guy. I think John McHugh has it.

SPEAKER_01 26:38

Who's uh we're gonna need another practice body mostly? Do you want it, Carter? Uh you want to be a bitch to run that 201 in the red jerseys?

SPEAKER_02 26:48

Uh is Hawkins still playing? We have to have somebody that guards with a right like an uh a shoulder that works. Yeah, it might be out there.

SPEAKER_01 26:57

Uh Hawkins probably still playing.

SPEAKER_03 26:58

Well, and I guess we probably can't give Hawkins a a GA role. He probably has like all the degrees they offer now.

SPEAKER_01 27:05

I don't know where JC says. Justin? Yeah. Justin Carter.

SPEAKER_03 27:09

You get two years GA, right? So this may have been his first year. Because it I feel like this was his first year, right?

SPEAKER_01 27:16

Here, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 27:17

And then they have the dude that uh Huss brought with him. I can't remember his name.

SPEAKER_01 27:22

Well I don't got it. I don't got it. I can't remember.

SPEAKER_02 27:25

But yeah, just I don't know. But I I believe in Huss, and I believe that Greg left him with the the puzzle pieces to put it together. Yeah. Um I think that Alan has he knows what Omaha wants. He has been here, he played here, and has seen exactly what is needed to fulfill our hearts. Like he's a good coach. We that's undoubted. Like it's he High Point is still like doing so good from his first like Oh yeah, his roster construction. Yeah. And now at Creighton, he's gonna be I mean, I'm excited. I'm excited to see what he can do.

SPEAKER_03 28:20

I know, I'm excited. I loved that Oswin was our first our first uh transport portal guy. We just got out of the way right away.

SPEAKER_02 28:31

And we did that last year with Owen, but I actually watched Oswin beat the shit out of us uh twice. Big guy. And you know, he might need to get fit a little more fit, and he has to work on his foul trouble. That's about it. Um but I like Oswin big time, uh and especially because when somebody transfers within the conference, yeah. Fuck you, fuck you, Providence.

SPEAKER_03 29:07

Like I I like that, yeah. And and I like that it was somebody that we um recruited hard in the past, so it's just you know, then our recruited hard out of the past. So it just goes to show um I don't know, keeping those connections alive, especially in modern basketball, is is important, and there's clearly a a connection kept.

SPEAKER_01 29:29

You can get a commit during the dead period before visits are even allowed. That's pretty damn good.

SPEAKER_03 29:35

For a premium position, you know, and the the center the center position is I mean, it's a tough market out there. So who has to just get one?

SPEAKER_02 29:42

Oswin was like, I could tell after sweeping you, you guys need me. Like, I sorry, I could beat Jason Green, and I can't wait to see those practices with Jason Green and Oswald. They're gonna be on different teams, right? Like, you know, uh blue and white. Uh white and blue, the white and the blue. Um but either way, it's gonna be fun to see them have to become friends. Yeah, and that happens in all sports. It's not like this is I feel pretty good they'll get along alright. I I think so. I bet Jason's like, thank God I don't have to guard him next year. Um now I just gotta I can guard somebody m closer to my size.

SPEAKER_01 30:32

Yeah. Hopefully for most of the game. I guess he's still kind of potentially a little bit more. It all depends on his friend.

SPEAKER_03 30:38

Yeah, his new friend has gonna kind of dictate that. Yeah, the the foul trouble is something that um yeah, especially because yeah, we didn't he's our only I well Wesley Rosa, the juke, but watching him, I don't see a world where he plays this year.

SPEAKER_01 30:58

Right now, Jason Green is still our backup center.

SPEAKER_03 31:01

Yeah. Yes. Which I expect to change in the coming weeks, month, and probably a young guy, a high school guy.

SPEAKER_01 31:09

I mean, shit, it wasn't damn near till school started when the Coda and then Alexis started showing up last year. So, I mean, it we're still in April. Uh the portal closed. There's lots of guys out there, lots of international guys out there.

SPEAKER_02 31:25

His wingspan is about as tall as him. Yeah, it's crazy.

SPEAKER_03 31:29

He's like seven six wingspan, he's seven one, seven, two.

SPEAKER_02 31:34

That picture of him holding the two balls.

SPEAKER_03 31:36

Oh it really fucks with your debt perception.

SPEAKER_01 31:38

I'm like, wait, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I'm sure I've said this about backups plenty, but if he's six minutes and five fouls, six to eight minutes and five fouls, great.

SPEAKER_03 31:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 31:49

I mean, especially now isn't absorbing. Let's slow the game down, let's get more rest for everybody. Well, yeah. Just competency is all I'm looking for.

SPEAKER_03 31:56

Especially because I I do we're gonna see more fouls this year. More across the board, not more turnovers created and and things like that, more active defense, but also that's gonna come with more fouls.

SPEAKER_02 32:09

But that that that also means BJ Davis coming into the squad from our an arch rival, San Diego State. That's a big get, I think, in my mind. He's interesting.

SPEAKER_03 32:23

I like it. Like I'm I don't know if I'm just homering and talking myself into it, but I the more I want to go down, I would like to take that path. I think that he is you know a bigger lead guard, and I fully expect him to lead, like be the lead guard in our offense. Um, like it more take on more of a creator role. And I I like his he's like 6'2, bigger than we've had. Um you think he plays the one? I think so. Oh yeah, yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_01 32:53

Starting point yard day one. Um I mean without the year, yes.

SPEAKER_02 32:57

Without Ty Davis or Nick Graves or Josh Dix, he's gonna be the one that is playing the one.

SPEAKER_01 33:03

Day one, he is starting at the one. Yeah. In March, I might have a different opinion.

SPEAKER_02 33:08

Yeah. Um I think well, you probably have a different opinion in December.

SPEAKER_03 33:13

Uh Cattrell take over the lead guard spot.

SPEAKER_01 33:18

I I I mean, I want it. I I want I want to be that high on it. Yeah, I I want to be that high on it. Yeah, I believe that's not where I'm looking right now.

SPEAKER_03 33:25

I believe in Cattrell as uh a good off-ball guy late in the year, and then maybe taking a step to being more in the lead role.

SPEAKER_02 33:36

Cattrell seems the upside is so big. Yeah. And I just I I want him to stay, and he did, even after a coaching change. So that that means that speaks volumes to me. Well, and he had to know.

SPEAKER_03 33:51

And I I I think Jaden Kuhn also knew, but I think that Jaden Kuhn just used it as a leave. Yeah, and I'm I'm sure Huss probably is like maybe gave him an updated situation of I don't see you fitting in what I want to do.

SPEAKER_02 34:09

So And also we didn't really know. I think I uh to be fair, I think uh that uh Jaden Kuhn uh maybe thought he was gonna play under the water.

SPEAKER_01 34:23

He wouldn't have seen minutes this year.

SPEAKER_03 34:25

What's funny is what's funny is that yeah, he's exactly what I think this roster needs is like a athletic like 6'6, 6'7 wing.

SPEAKER_01 34:34

Yeah, the one gap they're missing is a depth wing.

SPEAKER_03 34:37

They had a McDonald's all-american, should have just came and filled that role. That would have been fun.

SPEAKER_02 34:43

But you know, thanks, Marcus, Zagorowski. Speaking from Storm Lake, you know, in Iowa heavily recruited him before that. So that's fair. Whatever. That's not a miss.

SPEAKER_03 34:59

I think we're gonna I think I think what I'm more excited about with BJ Davis is defensively, um, he gives us like a point of attack defender that we really haven't had in a while. Like Kyrie would sometimes guard, like a lead guard, kind of the point of the back. Yeah, but Tyson was always kind of like the yeah, like the shooting, like the He's more stick to your guy than pick a ball. I think BJ can just kind of give some length and some disruption when teams are trying to initiate offense, which is something that we didn't often do. Under Matthew.

SPEAKER_02 35:39

Well, with BJ, BJ comes, you know, a defensive power, and then you also have a power scorer in Wes Enus from South Florida. So I think now we're Hustling. That's the transition.

SPEAKER_03 35:57

I like that a lot.

SPEAKER_02 35:58

Wow, thank you.

SPEAKER_03 36:00

Rounded into form going into year eight.

SPEAKER_02 36:02

I hey, they call me Scott Van Jack. Um why? Um, he shoots the nuts off the ball. He West Enus is gonna be the him and BJ, what we're hoping as Creighton fans, to be such a success in a defensive role and power scoring role.

SPEAKER_03 36:33

Like and what I really like about him is before he's probably other than photo shoots, before he's even put on a practice jersey, I know that if next year we need a bucket, it's gonna be in his hand, and he's probably gonna take it. Like I like that he is he's gonna be a big time score, I think. And he's not gonna shot there's probably gonna be some games where he's not shooting very well, but there's also gonna be some times where he's gonna light it up.

SPEAKER_02 37:02

Volume.

SPEAKER_03 37:02

But yeah, I'm down for a volume score.

SPEAKER_02 37:05

Exactly. Cutter, I love you.

SPEAKER_01 37:08

So I'm gonna steal, I don't know, somebody's stat of he averaged what, like nine and a half, ten, three attempts a game last year. I'm sure I'm stealing that from Joe or somebody that has better information, but guess what? We don't care, Joe.

SPEAKER_02 37:21

Am I wrong when I say did he did he lead uh Division one in three point percentage?

SPEAKER_03 37:30

No, he's like a 35%.

SPEAKER_01 37:34

Uh he was almost 40%, 39.7%. I said 39%.

SPEAKER_03 37:40

Okay, I was in the 39.5. Oh wow. That's way better. I thought it was 35, but I was fine with it because he took a ton.

SPEAKER_02 37:49

Well, you know, I shot uh 107 for 304.

SPEAKER_01 37:53

Wait. Oh, no, I was looking at conference. Sorry, he's 35. 107 for 304, 30, 35.

SPEAKER_02 37:59

That's good shit. But I'm Hawk and I just nailed it. I said conference 39. He had 35 uh with non-con in the whole season. That's kind of how it goes with our golf game. Um little ham and egg. Little, you know, you should have 44, I'll shoot a 50. That's fine.

SPEAKER_01 38:18

If he he gets it off, though uh the only concern I have is off the dribble a little bit. I mean he catch and shoot. He's catch and shoot. That's his that's his emo. And that that's fine. He's not creat uh he's not creating his own shot for the most part. I'm not looking for him to be a primary ball handler for the most part.

SPEAKER_03 38:40

Yeah. Which I think, but but I do see where you're coming from because it's a logo. Do you think of Hudson as a creator or Jackson as a creator? And I don't forget. So then it's you're relying on one lead guard.

SPEAKER_01 38:56

Personally, I got all my trust in Hudson to not play a primary ball hitter position, but I think if you're running Edis at the two and Hudson at the three, I just think we're drastically underutilizing Hudson last year, and he can do so much more.

SPEAKER_03 39:14

I think so too. But then that that's a good one.

SPEAKER_01 39:16

I know five tool is a baseball thing, but Hudson's a five-tool guy.

SPEAKER_02 39:20

That poses the question of Jason and Jackson. Um who's gonna I mean it's four.

SPEAKER_03 39:31

I think it's Jackson's to it's crazy to say. I think it's Jackson's to lose. Because then with Jason, you kind of just have a Swiss Army knife of like I think it really depends on how we backfill the post.

SPEAKER_01 39:46

Yeah. If we if there's a serviceable guy, that's gonna impact Jason's minutes. If there's not, that's gonna impact Jason's minutes. So either either way, if you're seeing Austin Schwartz and Jason Jason Green and or Hudson Greer coming to check in at the first time out, that's a pretty damn good setup for the boys. Yeah, yeah. Okay, I love that. I know I'm not gonna be able to do that. I'm not trying to create a lineup in my head because I don't fucking know. No, yeah. I know you're starting Jackson, you're starting Austin.

SPEAKER_02 40:17

I I'm liking I'm liking it.

SPEAKER_01 40:19

You're gonna start Jason or Hudson, I don't care. Right. I do care, Jason. But uh Jason, you think you're I have a new baby boy. This is a problem.

SPEAKER_03 40:27

You think at the three spot though, Jason?

SPEAKER_01 40:31

He was good enough to come off the bench at the three last year. I don't know why uh I don't I don't know. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 40:36

I just think that it's I trust that wouldn't it be Jackson at the three and Jason at the four?

SPEAKER_01 40:40

I guess Jackson made the four.

SPEAKER_02 40:43

How Jason Green played the five all year. Like he's bigger than it. He he knows he knows how to guard the center we have.

SPEAKER_03 40:54

I don't think that Jackson can guard like a guard like that, though. I mean, he is long.

SPEAKER_01 40:59

That is mostly where I lead on the defensive end. That's fair.

SPEAKER_02 41:02

That's fair.

SPEAKER_01 41:04

I mean, it's positionless basketball nowadays. You got a ball handler, you got a big, you got three other guys.

SPEAKER_03 41:09

Retouching on Jackson. One last thing. Yeah. One of my favorite things that um when guys like him uh get like a leg injury, I swear they always come back that following year shooting the piss out of it. Because they couldn't like run around or anything, but they could stand still stand still shoot. And so I feel like Jackson probably shot like 20,000 threes in the past year. So I think he's gonna come out stroking the ball.

SPEAKER_02 41:45

And also, my point to you is if Jackson McAndrew is actually gonna come back to Creighton after losing his best friend Ty Davis and sign up for this like losing him. He he did he transferred, he's still alive. Oh yeah, he wasn't lost in the war. Like he's not like he's not like uh POW or like yeah. Well, Sanford is POW, but yeah. Sanford, home of uh Creighton Pub legend Andy King.

SPEAKER_01 42:17

Oh North head coach. Yes, uh little fun tie-in there.

SPEAKER_02 42:22

Yeah, there we go. Love that. But also, if he's coming back, he pretty much has to be guaranteed a start. Yeah, but wouldn't you think the same about Jason? Yeah, that's what that's why it's so hard. Yeah, I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 42:38

I'll default to the I don't care who starts, I want to know who's finishing. I feel I'm so cliche and stupid, but yeah, it yeah.

SPEAKER_02 42:46

It's fair. It's I mean, I think that you know, we want Hudson to play way more minutes, but Hudson might have to be that sixth man. Um he just might have to. Because with in my mind, I would start Jackson at the three, Jason at the four, Oswald at the five. Just and this is way too early. Way too early. But that that makes sense to me to have BJ Wes. Wes and then Jason Jackson, Jason. Call it what you want to call in the three, four, who's defending one at that point. Yeah, the forwards. Well, like two guards, two forwards in the center.

SPEAKER_01 43:32

Um That's the only I might actually this might be the most negative thing I have to say about Jason ever. Yeah. Oh if he could just increase his ball handling just just a teeny weezy bit, there's gonna be problems. And shooting. Just just like I mean, that's been that's been drastically improving every year.

SPEAKER_03 43:54

Yeah, and he never is a volume guy either, which so it never tough to look at year over year. Yeah, I guess.

SPEAKER_01 44:01

But yes, if he could leave him open. If he could I'm not kidding when I say there's gonna be some point Jason lineups.

SPEAKER_03 44:09

Yeah, yeah. I don't hate it. I mean, I think yeah, I think Mac is or Huss is gonna be um I think he's gonna throw some throw some lineups at us that we'd be some weird shit.

SPEAKER_02 44:20

It's his team now. You know, we we don't he will call a timeout. Um but it's more like um who with Austin and also Hudson, there's a lot to be decided yet before we even get to summer workouts, like or before we get to two other ball handlers.

SPEAKER_03 44:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 44:48

Between uh Catrell and Bug. Who the hell knows? Yeah, TCU. Sorry, I mean to joke. The outline No, no, I think it's perfect.

SPEAKER_02 44:56

No, no, no. No, that's a great hey, look at us. Season seven. Wow. What uh Lisa uh Bug from TCU is kind of an outlier that we don't really know what's gonna happen.

SPEAKER_03 45:16

He feels so identical to Austin. Where it's like a former top 50 recruit didn't put up very impressive numbers at a power five school. But bring him in.

SPEAKER_01 45:31

Played on a tournament team, though.

SPEAKER_03 45:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 45:33

I which, as we learned last year, I'm now gonna throw a little bit more weight on coming from a winning program.

SPEAKER_03 45:40

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 45:41

A little bit more of a ball handler. I mean, not a true point guard by any means, but I think he's got a little more play like playmaking ability than Austin does.

SPEAKER_02 45:50

We'd rather have Bug than Ty. That's what they're doing. You know, without a shadow of it.

SPEAKER_01 45:55

I would like both, but yes.

SPEAKER_02 45:58

And it's kind of interesting, like, I think he'll adapt he'll adapt his game to the system. Yeah. I but it's just another like another piece to the puzzle that we don't know.

SPEAKER_03 46:12

What I think about him is you don't and will you look this up? Did he was it the all-time Texas record? You don't score like one of the all-time most points in Texas basketball history without like kind of being a scrub.

SPEAKER_02 46:30

Like he's from Texas.

SPEAKER_03 46:33

He played at Duncanville, which is one of the biggest schools in in Texas. He uh was like pretty pretty big time recruit coming out of high school.

SPEAKER_01 46:43

I he's the top 50 to 75 guy on all the services. Oh shit.

SPEAKER_02 46:51

Oh shit. Oh. Well, as we clean it up, we have to give it to Max Cy Walker for cleaning my sheets after I pee the bed most nights. Ah, fuck my own ass.

SPEAKER_03 47:11

Um, I can't I can't find it. I thought I said somewhere about him being one of his high school records. But playing at Duncanville, which I know you talked about it a ton with um Hudson playing at Montverde. Like you kinda want you kind of want guys. I think he's taken the big time the Blake role. Caden. Yeah. Bug. I think so.

SPEAKER_01 47:39

I think he's gonna be given every opportunity to fight for minutes.

SPEAKER_03 47:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 47:45

And I felt like Blake was kind of square pegging round hold in the minutes.

SPEAKER_03 47:50

But I do feel like Blake was given ample opportunity. He started game one.

SPEAKER_02 48:00

Bavarian.

SPEAKER_01 48:02

No, I I but I think a lot of him him and Catrell are in great spots. And fuck yeah. BJ Davis, we're assuming he's gonna come in as the quote unquote point guard to start the year. And he's kind of worked in a one-for-all, all-for-one offensive initiating system at San Diego State previously. Yeah. I think there is room for either one of those guys to absolutely take the reins. And it would be something new for Bug. That would not be kind of how he's played. He's been an off-ball guy, but if you want to fit in here, you better get in here.

SPEAKER_03 48:35

Yeah. If there's a way, if there's a path to you playing and it means changing how you play a little bit, I think I think you got to.

SPEAKER_01 48:45

Hey man, you gotta dime up Hudson Greer. I think he could probably figure out a way to do that a couple times.

SPEAKER_03 48:51

Yeah. It's also um I think that I think that Wes is gonna take a little bit more of a playmaking approach.

SPEAKER_01 48:59

That's I'm nervous.

SPEAKER_02 49:01

I think he just but we also have the weapons if he doesn't. Um you know, forgive me if I'm wrong, but I I think if he doesn't step up to the plate, then we have Austin, we have Catrell, we have BJ, we uh we have Hudson, Jackson. These guys can still make plays happen, even if but I I I do think Wes will.

SPEAKER_01 49:33

I do I'm just looking at South Florida's lineups last year. Yeah, none of their top ten lineups was he the quote unquote ball handler, point guard, this, that, and see, I don't think that he needs to be a point guard, but even I just it makes me a little nervous, that's all.

SPEAKER_02 49:50

Hold on. We've been going through this a lot, and here's a good question. Where is Isaac? Isaac's gonna keep filling his okay.

SPEAKER_03 50:01

I mean I mean how many roles are there to fill? I think Isaac's a great would you rather have him or not, is where I'm at.

SPEAKER_01 50:09

Yes. At this point, I don't think he's gonna be forced into playing 20 something minutes a game, but he's ready, he's available.

SPEAKER_03 50:17

And you need a guy that can he can unequivocally knock down a shot. And if he gets us open looks, he can he can make them. I don't need we I don't think we need him to do anything crazy. So he's a role player. So to me, so just like me.

SPEAKER_01 50:37

Excel your role. He's a role player. Excel now.

SPEAKER_03 50:39

Come down. Um shoot him when you're open.

SPEAKER_02 50:43

But also fine, you have to I'm thinking about the the current climate of you know the portal in Division I basketball is is he fine with this? Is is he fine with being a senior that is not gonna get meaningful minutes? Like he must be.

SPEAKER_01 51:07

I mean, he gets to play in front of his friends and family every game, which I know means a ton to all of them.

SPEAKER_03 51:12

His fiance. Is he engaged?

SPEAKER_01 51:15

Yep, shout out Skye, finished up her volleyball career last year. Yeah, shout out his dad, who was nice enough to buy me a beer or two out in Vegas. Also, that's gonna set up some. It's gonna do wonders for you, Mr. Trout.

SPEAKER_03 51:27

Uh we gotta start. But I'm just gonna start signing more more players with just long time girlfriends. They always stay for I guess Josiah Dotzler was the bro got married before he showed up. Good lord. Got married to Pro.

SPEAKER_01 51:46

That's too Christian for me. Hey, speaking of speaking of USD and the Oats, though, shout out JTT, your boy. Yeah, Josiah JTT up at uh Vermilion.

SPEAKER_03 51:56

I would have loved JTT to come back. But I think that he probably got a decent Yeah, he'll probably play some good minutes. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 52:05

You know, and he deserves it. He deserves it more than anyone because he worked his ass off at Creighton. And you know what?

SPEAKER_01 52:14

He was never gonna be a biggie's player. Yeah, yeah. Bingo. Bingo. He was fun, he was fun as hell to have. He gave his fucking heart and soul into this shit.

SPEAKER_03 52:23

Yeah, come on, bruh. Practicing every day and playing like what 20 minutes in your life.

SPEAKER_02 52:33

That I if he didn't get injured, I think he would have played a lot. Yeah. I think he would have played a lot. We laughed about that.

SPEAKER_03 52:40

We laughed, we joked about when Dee Marina said that.

SPEAKER_01 52:44

That's how I joke about that. We said something about if Ty Davis and JTT are on the court. We're like, well, if that happens together, things have gone horribly good or horribly wrong.

SPEAKER_02 52:56

Things had gone. Well, guess what? Ty Davis literally had Nick Graves didn't give a shit in the non-con. And all of a sudden, Ty Davis is starting for like, what, six or seven games? And kind of turn.

SPEAKER_03 53:11

Yeah, yeah. Like when he when they changed the starting role, we kind of played a little bit better.

SPEAKER_02 53:16

We started winning. Our trajectory was better.

SPEAKER_03 53:21

Well, our two first two games in the big east, we blew the doors off of Xavier, and then we beat at we beat Marquette by 20. And we're like, oh, so all of a sudden we're just like, we've kind of figured it out now, we're good again.

SPEAKER_02 53:34

But I think that was but that was Greg smacking Nick in the mouth and saying, guess what? If you're not gonna do it, Ty will, which he can't. And it's like, oh shit. Uh like this guy, like, yeah, it's a it's only a four-gallon tank, not uh not a 16-gallon tank. Where you know, Nick hit that game winner against uh see, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 54:05

Thanks for what you did, Nick. Uh yeah, see ya.

SPEAKER_02 54:08

Yeah. But I would say Jemia, Jemiah Neal, Jemia O'Neal was a much better senior transfer than Nick. Yeah. Um, Jemia O'Neal is a led, like maybe one of my favorites.

SPEAKER_01 54:22

Um if you play with Ryan Koch better, it helps.

SPEAKER_02 54:25

Yeah, that's true.

SPEAKER_01 54:26

That's no, that's that part is not a knock on Nick. Uh his general attitude is a he's not gonna be a guy that's remembered. Yeah. Throw him in the I mean, he had that one. He's more he's more than a counter cash, but I that's kind of where I want to throw him.

SPEAKER_00 54:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 54:41

Or a uh Caleb Caleb Joseph uh Caleb Joseph, yeah. Okay, that's kind of where you know what? Yeah, thanks.

SPEAKER_02 54:47

Thank you for your service, and I love you. And you'll always be welcome here at Barrett's Brother Gordon. Um but also Saya.

SPEAKER_01 54:58

We could have done more. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 55:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 55:13

He feels like he was a bit of a mercenary, which is the standard around college sports.

SPEAKER_02 55:18

Jemiah Neal claims Creighton, not his previous school.

SPEAKER_01 55:22

Yeah, we'll be cutting my nuts on Sandiara and uh be forever loved.

SPEAKER_03 55:28

And and then follow following that up with just nuclear on Pat Kelsey. Matt Kelsey's like, why who's that number five?

SPEAKER_01 55:38

Oh, he's like, he must be the oh wow, take that. Uh yeah, like no, he must be like maybe they're like fourth, fifth guy. I don't should we worry I don't I don't know who that number 11 is either for Crane. Uh but yeah, Pat Kelsey had that Jason Green scout on lock. I don't know. I'm I'm feeling pretty good. It's just the overall ball handling is the big question again. And it doesn't feel like we're in the market to snag anybody else at this point. Yeah. I wonder how Austin kind of factors into that.

SPEAKER_03 56:11

I'm telling you, man, I just really believe that BJ Davis is just gonna fill he's just gonna eat up so many of those minutes.

SPEAKER_01 56:18

And it's it's not gonna be 40 a game, and I I think he should be close to uh 28 to 30.

SPEAKER_03 56:25

I think so.

SPEAKER_01 56:25

I think that's kind of the range you're hoping and looking for.

SPEAKER_03 56:29

You then you start experimenting, you know, some minutes with play. Yeah, absolutely. Austin try to West be the lead guard.

SPEAKER_01 56:38

Somebody's gonna step up.

SPEAKER_03 56:39

Yeah. Yeah, Catrell. You throw Cotrell in the nine.

SPEAKER_01 56:42

I I am based on what the staff said, that I'm not not not day one, not November, but he's gonna look a hell of a lot different in March than he does.

SPEAKER_03 56:53

It's the Trey Alexander. You know, it just he he his game reminds me so much of it in in kind of coming into a not necessarily super similar because that class was unreal and they were kind of all freshmen and and Trey kind of was the slower burner of them, but just kind of buy your time, get better, playing these guys. I think he's gonna be able to do some really unsexy stuff, but stuff that you're like, oh, he should be on the he should be on the court.

SPEAKER_01 57:24

There's gonna be I mean, there's gonna be a couple non-con games at minimum where he drops 15, 16, has a big dunk, hits two, three threes in a row. He's gonna do that where he gets the buzz going, he gets everybody excited. Like that's key is getting him initiated early in the year.

SPEAKER_03 57:41

Yes, 100%, which is give him minutes, give him minutes early.

SPEAKER_01 57:47

And there's minutes to be had. We've kind of brushed Austin under the rug. I know I was lower on him, but I just feel like he's the perfect six man.

SPEAKER_03 57:56

When you're a returner, it's it's you know, you kinda you're less sexy, you know, and everybody everybody likes to look at the new toys.

SPEAKER_01 58:04

Oh shit, uh My Calla had Jackson as like the ninth best player on Creighton's team as far as returning. It just it gets lost in the mess, but I think he is the perfect sixth man if he's ended up starting. I don't really see something's gone wrong if he's starting, I guess, in my mind.

SPEAKER_03 58:24

You're thinking of Cattrell?

SPEAKER_01 58:26

Of Austin.

SPEAKER_03 58:27

Oh, of Austin, oh sorry, yes, yeah, of Austin for sure.

SPEAKER_01 58:31

It's an absolute microwave off the bench.

SPEAKER_03 58:33

Yeah, and and I'm sure Huss, I feel like Huss's defensive scheme, maybe something, you know, trying to be in a little bit more aggressive. I feel like just the kind kind of change of scheme for that might be nice for him. Instead of having to play such a fairly d disciplined style of defense that like Mac wanted to wanted to coach. I think I just soft.

SPEAKER_02 58:54

I just don't think that Austin is a six man um with this lineup, especially with Hudson with Hudson.

SPEAKER_01 59:04

I guess I'm kind of using air quotes on the sixth man. Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_03 59:07

Guy off the bench.

SPEAKER_01 59:08

Uh like a you you need a spark. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 59:11

We need a bucket.

SPEAKER_01 59:12

I think it's safe to assume he's not in the starting class.

SPEAKER_02 59:15

I just meant I you know, I don't know who our six man is, and the quotes are actually perfect because nobody is.

SPEAKER_01 59:24

It's gonna be a situational thing where if it's Jason, if it's Hudson, if it's Austin, if it's Cottrell. I it could be, but I think Austin just fits that perfect if we want to go NBA style. He he is an NBA six-man type. Yeah. It's like, ah shit, that ain't working. Little microwave. Get in there, throw it up. And cheers to you guys.

SPEAKER_02 59:48

It's the finale of season seven of Blue Jays at the B. We are taking the egg of bombs.

unknown 59:57

Ah shhh.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:02

Oh, yeah, it's good. Uh-huh. But no, of course it's situational and it's Huss's team. I thought it was interesting that you know, we all pretty much pegged Austin to be gone. And so so there has to be a plan in like for for him to stay, is Hus telling him he got his shit together, but is what happened. You have a role.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:33

And well, and I am curious too if well, I guess when he signed, Hus probably wasn't even back yet. No, and I wonder how long, uh you know, throughout the year, if Huss is in his ear being like, if you stay patient, you know, I I can see this going for you. And then, you know, he played really, really well in stretches for us, too.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:53

And I've I've naked him so hard that I need to probably start walking that back a little bit. Because it's pretty it's pretty fucking hard to defend when you have uh no one inside the three-point line that can help. Yes. Not even protect the rim, just help.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:10

We were bad defensively in like the we had one player that had one left hand, and then Austin, who you know, was offensively alright. And it was new. You know, I think it was something that Greg never had in his like like such a depth of kind of oddballs. Um and I don't mean to say oddballs, but you know what I mean.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:38

No, and it's uh one of those things where a lot of people think of Marcus Foster. Well, Marcus had the year. You get that year two in the system. I know that's a generic other cliche bullshit term, but if all if Austin just could have sat and watched somebody in front of him do what he was expected to do, that would have been great, but we didn't have that. But what do you think about like Fedor? Um I'm trying to dig a little. It's pretty quiet on the home front, so I don't know if that means he's just gonna go back overseas and he's gonna be good with that. That's kind of what my gut tells me. Don't you have to enter the portal?

SPEAKER_02 1:02:17

Like he's in the portal. He is in the portal. Yeah, he did. He did. Okay. But but there's been no he's been rumored to this team. You can go back and play in, you know, Spain and make good money and just say fuck this.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:32

Or, you know, maybe Illinois wants to grab an eighth-ninth guy and give him a million dollars. I I don't know. I asked around a wee bit.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:41

It's okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:41

There's really not any sort of news on the Fedora. There's no link that he's been contacted by anybody that he maybe he just wants to go home.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:50

That and and that's because he's he's gonna deal with so much bullshit here. And yeah, with with uh, you know, is he eligible? Is he not? Is he this? And you know, honestly, he's been here for what two and a half years, and I think that uh a year and a half.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:11

Well they just decided he got mixed of a sophomore year. He went for a freshman junior year.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:17

Living in Omaha, is what I mean.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:19

Yeah, he was here for two seasons.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:20

Yeah, two and like two and a half. Uh or you know, he was here for what is that 700 days. No.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:27

Um that's no good.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:30

I can't even.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:31

But no, I I don't but but my gut tells me he's just his game just is a European style. I don't think he's gonna maybe somebody gives him a bag, but I feel like he's better off going back playing.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:43

I feel like him overseas is money for him.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:48

Not not like actual cash, but just And it kind of irks me because we never fucking fully deployed him.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:55

Yeah. Until the last minute of the games.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:58

Yeah, until we were down by 10 to DePa, he just wasn't uh considered as an option.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:04

Well, we can talk all day about everyone, but let's go to this. Val Ackerman is retiring from the Big East as the Chancellor as the commissioner. Head chef.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:21

I feel like she gets a lot of shit online, but she didn't what is your dig? The refs. The refs suck.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:31

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:32

And she also doesn't like publicly battle for that's my gripe. Okay. Uh you guys go on. She goes flaccid when it comes to defending the Big Ten. The Big East. Sorry. Jesus Christ, Ohio State trash. I can at least I can spell Dick. Uh no, she just she doesn't do anything wrong. She could have done a lot more. I feel like there's people qualified that could you want somebody to stand up for you. You want somebody to make a little fucking noise. I mean, there's a reason why NCC loves Greg Sandy. I know that's ridiculous. We're not the NCC, we're not the Big Ten, as previously stated. Uh you want someone that's gonna fight for you, and that as great as she was. That's a lot. I don't believe that. Uh just do you but stand the fuck up and find it.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:26

She did break she didn't a Fox One the media deal. A Fox deal. And then also was with Steve Lapis. Almost almost ensured that the big east was always on cable TV. Um she was good, which instead of stri and of course now we're living in a time of crazy above and beyond.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:49

Didn't hang your dick on the table.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:52

Sometimes you need uh especially nowadays, you need a bar people vying for him. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:56

I said I I'm not Greg Sakey, I'm not the SEC, but you know what he does big. Fucking noise to make people pay attention. And we don't have that as a commissioner.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:05

Are you saying that maybe she should have um been more vocal about this year's not just basketball?

SPEAKER_01 1:06:13

Um I mean shit. I'll go back to last year's baseball. Baseball. Three top forty some RPI teams where I don't know, if Craight didn't win last year in baseball, uh it just would still would have been a one-bid league. No, there's three top 40 teams.

unknown 1:06:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:26

She didn't she just didn't hang her nuts on the table. That's my beat.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:30

Too many big east sports were like one big leads. One bid leagues. Um, you know, volleyball kind of gets a rep of of being a bad Marquette's kicked it up a notch.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:42

Yeah. I'm not saying they always deserve it, but the last couple years they should have been given a look.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:46

Women's basketball women's basketball is you know, they talk about we're on the way up, brother.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:53

Oh, if I got them girls ready to go. That's a top 25 too next year. Book it. Book it.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:01

Um but yeah, just uh yeah, then you talk about baseball, just so much of that shit is it needs to be vouched for, especially when you're not the Big Ten or the SEC.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:15

Absolutely. Um it's it's really tough with baseball. Um just speaking out loud as um a bar that is like the headquarters of LSU, who sucks this year. Like LSU is down bad. Go tag us. But also they're gonna probably make the regional um instead of instead of Xavier or Yukon, who is playing pretty well in the big east, like you know, Creighton is just swept Butler, or no, no, they didn't sweep Butler.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:53

Um But at the same time Yeah, it kind of all goes to the you know the ranking systems. I think you know, baseball still uses what the RPI, which is you know, all of them have different like weight scales.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:08

You have to understand that the SEC baseball is better than every aspect of big East.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:14

Oh, it's not like I'm saying that the the Big East You know needs to be.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:19

Uh it I don't know. I just meant I think Val did a fine job. I don't know she did okay. The hatred is um to me unwarranted. I think that it'd be hard for anyone to have a basketball-centric.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:36

Well, you know, let's be honest. Time you know, recently the big east has only been getting three three, four schools in. And when you you know you look at the percentage of schools in your conference, that's fairly high, considering so many of those so many mega conferences and stuff.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:55

And we've been when the valley gets weird.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:58

We should be getting like you look at the the list of schools that we play, we should be getting five, six conferences or teams from our conference in every year.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:10

It's not Val's fault for us failing at non-con.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:16

Because to be honest, the big but you know, last year Seton Hall, last year Seton Hall was by every metric a tournament team.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:25

And and they didn't get they didn't get in. And if an SEC team like that misses, like you see so many of like the commissioner being like Auburn being like first seed in NIT. This is who they play, you know. Imagine, you know, you never see Val on FS1 being like they had to go to Yukon, they had to go play in Madison Square Garden, they had to go to Omaha. These are these are neutral sites. Yeah, yeah, okay, okay. She never, you know, like sometimes you need some propaganda from your commissioner nowadays.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:00

Yeah. Uh and you know, maybe she's maybe it's good. It's a good time to things. But it is a good time for her to hang up the the boots.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:09

Yeah, maybe you know, it's as as much as uh the coaches, you know, kind of the the transfer portal in the modern age, you know, sometimes these commissioners need a little refreshing of you know, you need a little bit of conference propaganda.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:24

If it if you want to keep the big east and the power five basketball talk, then have that propaganda. Yeah. And I couldn't agree more, yeah. But I just mean in terms of her service, she she had to weather, she had to go across the Delaware like Josh Washington did, to to you know, honestly make the Big East in this conference realignment work. And I think she did a good job, and I and I do applaud her, I will say as much as as much as we hate him, bringing back UConn was good for the Big East.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:09

Huge. She did it.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:11

Yeah. So so she was maybe uh a silent commissioner, but also did things that you know really, really helped. FS1 and CBS Sports Network always on. We have it always. And I don't like Peacock, fuck Peacock, um, but whatever. It probably paid out a bunch. Yeah. Um but you know, credits to her, and I hope she has a good retirement.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:45

I'd love to retire with whatever she has in her.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:47

Yeah, I don't really care about what she does, but I'm envious.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:52

Let's go to the NCAA, who is not Val. Maybe it is now.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:01

Speaking of people vouching for more NCAA tournament babies. No, no, that's what I'm saying. Expansion. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:06

Don't, don't, don't do that. Don't ruin my intro. I'm gonna steal your job. That was good. I was gonna fucking say it, and then you run in. Yeah, Jack, shut up. Yeah, Jack, shut up, Jack, shut up. Uh expansion. Uh NCAA.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:24

Like Jamie Taco.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:25

This is good. This is the NCAA wants to expand and probably will coming May. Uh the March Madness to go to 70 or 6 uh 76. That is something that's been on high contention. Formalized in the upcoming weeks. Jesus. So we're going from 64 to which 68. 68. 68 to 76.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:59

Can I take a local angle right away? Immediately. Uh so there's gonna be a second host site for this new opening round, which will be called the first round.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:11

The first.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:12

I think it'll be 12. Is it 12 teams six games? Or 16-8.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:19

So all six teams play in?

SPEAKER_01 1:13:21

Yep. Or is it 15 or 15? My understanding is there will be a second side aside from Dayton. Stay the fuck away from Omaha.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:31

Yeah, stay away from Omaha. What if it's a Baxter? We're hooked up. No, they'll they do Dayton Dayton's arena is pretty solidly.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:39

No, but they they are very open that it'll be a second site where they'll split it up. Uh oh, Indianapolis. Wichita, take it. Yeah. Wichita, you guys can have that. We can go down there. I would go four hours to watch that shit anytime. I don't want expansion. You don't want to I I don't want Omaha to be considered as the Dayton West.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:01

Yeah, that is correct. Actually, the best okay, correct.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:03

I just three four opening weekends. We've hosted a regional. I don't just keep all that shit out of Omaha. Is my I love that take.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:13

I I until you said that, I really didn't think much of it in terms of well, that'd be fine. That'd be fine. But also cheapen's our name. No, no, no, no. Omaha is a better city than that.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:26

It's been almost two decades since we've been hosting real first round games.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:30

I don't we don't have the Sweet 16 in the Elite Eight there. The first round is fine. It's also good, but we are not having that trash.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:40

Oh, it's absolutely I just keep keeping his name out your motherfucking mouth.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:45

You don't want to see George Mason here. You don't want to see George Mason here.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:49

George Mason, dude. We're not gonna get a mid-major. It's gonna be no. I don't I don't want the third team. I don't want the third team in the first.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:56

Here's the thing that's annoying.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:57

I don't want to watch eight and fourteen Rutgers play nine and seventeen fucking Arkansas.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:03

This whole thing is just Trojan. They're in a they're veiling it as oh, we'll give more chances to mid-majors, blah blah blah blah. It's just a Trojan horse to get yeah, fucking well it's TV money. 10 and fit ten and fourteen about TNT South Carolina. Yeah. No. I don't win some fucking games. If you want to expand it, okay. Rewrite the rules. If you're not 500 in conference play, you don't qualify for the NCAA tournament. Yes. Something like that. So I don't give a fuck about net. If you're if your conference records game of the net. Yeah. If your conference record is under 500.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:53

You know, like you play all your neutral sight games two hours away because they're top hundred teams, and you don't beat a single conference or a single NCAA tournament team out of conference if you're game in that system like some teams do around here. No, fuck that. All right. It bothers me. What about this?

SPEAKER_02 1:16:12

There should be some massaging of the rules. And also, how about five years straight? Five years. Five five? Five years.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:23

Uh but I I like it. Maybe hot take. I don't care that one class of kids got fucked.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:31

Yeah. So you know.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:33

Sorry, man. Sorry, you guys got treated like everyone else that got treated for the hundred years before you. Yeah. Sorry that you didn't get a magical 50 year wish. I'm sure there's gonna be some bullshit lawsuits on.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:44

They were also the first the first of the wild, wild west of the NIL. So they were they were fine.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:51

You guys have made millions of dollars.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:54

Bingo.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:55

You were getting so you're you feel we're supposed to feel bad for you, and then you know, the people that just played four years without NIL, without anything like that.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:06

That happened like with the NFL draft. Um they that old miss.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:12

I mean, that guy's that guy's trying to get lit his sixth or seven.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:15

Well, he might be older than us. I think we're getting to a point where we're old. So do I have to stop saying that? Yeah, it's been a while. I think we're graying. Our hairs are graying. I am bald. Well, you've been bald since seventh grade, so uh no.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:33

I mean, I I mean Mac had talked about it at least the last year, maybe two years, about the five for five. And I'm sure Mac was expecting that by now that would have been clear. Josh will be around. Uh the fact that teams are sitting there banking on thinking on maybe we'll get a name point guard that went to Nebraska, and then maybe went to Rhode Island, and then maybe came back to Nebraska and thinking that that's gonna save our year.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:58

But but also, but also that that begs the question of uh No retroactive. Josh Dix could play next year. No. No. No, it's not retroactive. If you're done, you're done. Oh, okay, he's done. Dead? Uh he would have to he would he would have to sue the next one. No, sorry, he would have to sue he would have to sue.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:16

Cut that, cut that, cut that. He could yeah, they're gonna sue the courts and all that. And I'm it's not gonna be Antoine Young just entered that Jones.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:28

Antoine Jones, sorry, not young. I love you, young Bellevue brave, the bravest man in the world. Pay your child support. Whoa. Uh um, but but Josh Dix and I mean Antoine is trying to get his well now eighth year.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:50

Class of twenty eighteen.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:52

Like so much longer than I went to college for. I went to college for so long.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:58

They call it a doctor. But do you agree with these uh NCAA uh stipulations and the new rules?

SPEAKER_03 1:19:10

I kind of like that they that they just at some point they just set something in stone.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:19

I think we just adopted Super Senior.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:22

Like uh, yeah, you guys can hang around, but I don't think it's gonna solve the problem, but that's fine. It's at least a step forward. It's gonna cut down on the waivers a bit, but as long as everybody keeps deciding they're fucking lawyers and taking everything to court, it's gonna no, like I was talking shit on it with a Jamarcus Lawrence type. It's a backlog where now guys like that are gonna cause a stir. And that's not gonna stop. There's always gonna be exceptions, there's always gonna be exceptions to the rule. Pop Isaac. But in theory, in practice, I am very here for it. I think it makes perfect sense.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:02

I think if you just put it in black and white five years, if you're 19 years, then you at least have some kind of base to stand on. Because I feel like for so long it was so it's like waver to whipper.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:15

Yeah, nobody knows what's really fucking going on. And sometimes they grant it, sometimes they don't. And now it's I I like it. Five once you're 19 years old and or graduated high school, you get five years of NCAA eligibility. That makes more sense than anything to me.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:39

You have to wonder if maybe I mean I doubt that Al had the tip that this was gonna be pretty much stamped by now. That but that is true, yeah. But bringing in the guys he brought in this year slash bringing in the guys they brought in last year.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:56

And also the people that stayed.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:59

I know Mac thought that was gonna go through last year. I know for a fact the coaching staff plan on that being we got these guys for another year if we want them with Josh and Nick. So did does that impact the way they recruited? Does that benefit the way they recruited? No, holy shit, okay, we got two years of these guys.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:17

Yeah. That is that that is very insightful.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:22

I don't know. Do you think that it's even a game of thinking multiple years in advance? Or do you how much of it?

SPEAKER_01 1:21:31

If it's a four year I'm talking, I'm talking C. I'm talking BJ, I'm talking Enus. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think which Enus is might be a little murky. I don't know how they detailed. Yeah, I don't which is there you go.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:45

Then we're just like JUCO. You know, there's a lot, yeah, there's a lot going on. Uh with you know, you go to Iowa Central, you know, you don't know.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:54

Which then I I still really I don't hate if they're just like, nope, it's it's five years.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:59

Five years of college, yeah, don't matter. Like, I don't care if you go to Midland, I don't care if you go to Iowa Central, Wayne State, D BAC. Like, I don't care if you it's five years for a southern uh if they if they stand if they stand taller than that, I'm I'm fine with that. Dylan Travis, shut up.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:19

Can we put Dylan on the team this year?

SPEAKER_02 1:22:23

He already went through four. I don't know if it's a 33-year-old that's yeah, I'll go to Creighton. Yeah, fuck yeah. I would take Dylan Travis every day. Trust me, he's won a lot of games for me.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:43

I'm just glad there's something.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:46

Yeah. Yeah. It's not at all the way. We can't keep going to Indianapolis and being like, what is happening? You know, that's the thing is here is what is going on. Um do you believe in a cap in NAL?

SPEAKER_01 1:23:08

Do I?

SPEAKER_02 1:23:09

Yeah, I mean, that's a loaded question.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:12

Um free market. Yeah. I'm fine with it.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:19

I don't care if you pay the most, it seems to pay the most. So Bradley gets fucked.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:22

I think especially I think especially with college-age kids, that there's so many misses.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:29

I'm gonna take a long shot projection here. Uh Louisville Sweet 16 max. That's more so Pat Kelsey being a bad coach. Here's here here's my thought. Really quick. Look at Kansas last year.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:47

Really quick, really quick. I still think that it's college athletics. College means it's still fairly niche. Like, like college means that and a lot of players did it. Anthony Tolliver got a finance degree uh from Creighton and went, you know, but real estate. I'm saying they should definitely have to go to class. No Larry Johnson, no fuck day. I'm gonna go play ball.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:26

Shout out to all the Chicago.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:29

But I'm saying you also as well as your NIL deal, you get to get an education for free. I'm not trying to go backwards. I'm just saying these these kids should really try to capitalize on getting an education for when basketball goes wrong. Um when yeah, what is it?

SPEAKER_03 1:24:57

What's that commercial? Only one percent of NCAA athletics go pro in something other than sports.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:05

I noticed that commercial is kind of a little weird. I haven't seen that one in a while. Uh but yeah. That's that's basically what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_03 1:25:12

I mean, when was the last time that you saw somebody was like ineligible because of academics?

SPEAKER_01 1:25:16

You give me a million dollars, you think I'm going to class.

SPEAKER_03 1:25:19

Yeah, man. That's what I'm saying. I don't play class.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:24

There should be also a GPA rule.

SPEAKER_03 1:25:26

The NCAA should just get rid of it.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:27

That see, that is interesting. There should be a GPA. When was the last time you heard that someone was academically ineligible or couldn't qualify for a school? Uh somebody could get into Michigan at the end.

SPEAKER_03 1:25:37

Caleb Love couldn't get into Michigan.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:39

That was the That's why Isaac Miles shot out and Pian couldn't hack it at Creighton because their GPA was so low, and the school itself, a Jesuit college, shout out Creighton. Go prep. Um but they couldn't they couldn't but you haven't heard of any of these guys that can't get into a school. Which I'm ready for I'm ready for school, I'm ready for separating. I couldn't get into fucking Vanderbilt. And this this little bro that can ball Jack, you can't spell blue jays. Oh okay. You got me there. Uh why?

SPEAKER_03 1:26:22

Uh C. Just have these just have these have these kids just be representatives of the university. Just stuck in the world. That's where we're headed.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:31

That's what I had. We can't have college sports be just a pro. That's what it's going to. They're just like. I don't care. But go to class. No, you've got to go to class.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:42

Oh.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:42

Why?

SPEAKER_01 1:26:43

None of us did that.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:44

Just because we didn't doesn't mean they shouldn't.

SPEAKER_03 1:26:48

Somebody was giving me millions of dollars. Yeah. And I think that's a good idea. Fuck you.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:54

If they gave me uh an NIL deal for smoking dope, fuck yeah. Alright, then I'm not going to class. You didn't get you didn't receive a dime, and you're shit out of luck.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:07

All I got was disorderly house conduct tickets.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:10

But but if we're gonna if we're gonna call it the NCAA, the national.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:14

We're not gonna call it that soon.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:16

Like, then what are we doing here? It's all it's all fucked. And you know, it's more it's more fucked for anybody that doesn't play, to be honest, men's basketball. Um or football. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:27:34

Um, I feel like women's volleyball women's volleyball and women's basketball are starting to get a little bit of bags. They're still studying.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:42

They're still studying. I guarantee they're still studying.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:45

I don't know why he yelled at you, but ex except the part where the obviously best volleyball team in the country, most renowned, is somehow still losing. Money.

SPEAKER_03 1:28:03

Nebraska volleyball is losing money.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:07

I just doubt that.

SPEAKER_03 1:28:08

That's not good.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:09

I just also doubt that. And also, we don't talk about Nebraska on this podcast.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:13

Paying too much for the PGAs and the this and the that. It's they're they're not like a revenue generator. And they're arguably the best volleyball team of all time that still hasn't managed to win a national title in a decade, but that's neither here nor there.

SPEAKER_03 1:28:30

They're certainly the most marketable.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:32

Yeah. I mean, they're they're investing millions. I don't know. They're redoing the stadium, they're on seats, and they're still breaking even itch. Are you the Bob? The Bob Devaney building at the John Cook Court at the Terry Pennett court site. They have like John Cook, Terry Pennett, and the Bob are all involved in the name of the building in court.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:54

The Tom I think. I'll give them their memorial base. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:59

You know, we're talking about two in-state programs that both made it to the Elite Eight this year. Equal foundations, equal funding. Uh one's wasting a lot more money on games than the other. Uh but no, it's just You think Creighton makes money off volleyball? No, but they're not spending as much.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:15

Yeah, fair. Fair. I'll love it. But they don't have uh an arena that holds what 10,000? And we have the Sokol that holds what 4,000?

SPEAKER_03 1:29:26

Not even is the Bob considered an on-campus arena?

SPEAKER_01 1:29:30

No.

unknown 1:29:32

No.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:32

Sokol is, right? Sokol is. Sokol is definitely on campus. Sokol is the most on campus. The Bob, the Bob is the good old Astra.

SPEAKER_03 1:29:39

Well, I guess I guess really what I mean by I'm I'm talking like financially, is that part of uh like the school facility? Both of them.

unknown 1:29:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:49

I'm gonna say yes to that based on the way you first. The Bob is part of the University of Nebraska. Okay. That's what I mean.

SPEAKER_03 1:30:00

Instead of, you know, we play at CHI.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:03

And it's just for that one, but I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:06

I'm gonna do that. Well, hey, let's go to this. And this is not even Creighton based. It is a bit. Creighton baseball is leaving CHI Health Center. Or uh fuck me. Uh the other one.

SPEAKER_03 1:30:21

T DM Air Trade.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:22

Uh Charles Fob. Oh yeah. Jesus. There you go. Hey, that's that's a one we have a perfect inning here. Um Immaculate fuck up. Uh swinging them miss, swinging them miss, swinging them at. Um strike three. But Creighton basically.

SPEAKER_03 1:30:43

Listen to Blue Jays have to be for the straightest fact show in here.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:47

Stadium Mays.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:48

We're they're leaving for the on-campus baseball field that looks gorgeous. Um, I really like that. I think it's a good move for Creighton because being at the Chuck is sad. And but as an Omaha taxpayer, that fucks me up, dude. Like, how can we have a baseball stadium that fits 24,000 be used for 14 days out of the year? It's uh you know what? Let's not go there. I I'm gonna cut this off.

SPEAKER_03 1:31:26

Hey! It must be worth it.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:31

They'll still play the Nebraska games and a couple other games at home and they'll still rally up a game.

SPEAKER_03 1:31:36

Do they do the Big Ten tournament there?

SPEAKER_01 1:31:37

Yep.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:38

But no, they're gonna be moving uh after this year, moving um every year to different fields.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:46

The Big Ten?

SPEAKER_02 1:31:47

Yeah. Oh so Okay, good. Yeah. And it's gonna be at the Twins at the Target Field and that's a that's top three ballpark in the MLB right now.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:59

It's Target Field, even when it's buried in downtown over there. It's such a good one.

SPEAKER_03 1:32:04

I really like Target Field.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:05

Yeah, at least they have a pro team there. Um while we have a gorgeous stadium sitting vacant downstairs, uh, downstairs.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:16

It's also probably nice to pay your bills in ten days out of the year.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:21

We'll see what Mecca does, as they always fuck us. But hey, that's that's all I got. Alright. Blue Jays at the B.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:32

I got Creighton taking the series against St. John's and Queens this weekend. I think the bats get going.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:37

Blue Jays at the B. This is Steven C No.

SPEAKER_03 1:32:44

Are we gonna re- we're gonna restart again?

SPEAKER_02 1:32:46

Yeah, we have an hour and a half, redo it. Um Blue Jays at the B, season seven. That's a rim.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:04

The A comes before the Y. Fuck you.