Pauly On The Pod
Pauly On The Pod
Skateboarding Is A Tribe : Taylor Clark & Nick Day
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A touring stand-up comedian pulls up to Jacksonville, skates all day, then hits the stage that night and somehow it all makes perfect sense. We’re posted up at legendary Kona Skatepark with Taylor Clark (stand-up comedian and skateboarder) and St. Augustine’s Nick Day, and the background sound of skating sets the tone for a conversation that’s equal parts funny and real.
Taylor breaks down how he started doing comedy, why skateboarding keeps showing up in his writing, and the hard problem every niche storyteller faces: making “skate language” land with people who’ve never stepped on a board. We also get into Florida skate stops like DIY parks, the vibe at Neon Moon, and the history that hangs over Kona, including the kind of spots that instantly humble you.
Nick shares what it’s like being 20 and living out of a backpack for skate trips, chasing sessions from San Francisco to Philly, and learning how connected the skateboarding world really is once you start moving. From there we go deeper on expectations, gratitude, and a line that sticks: skateboarding doesn’t owe you anything. We talk sobriety and focus, how getting healthy can bring skating back, and why the best skate community is the one that lets people skate their own way.
If you’re into skateboarding, stand-up comedy, Kona Skatepark, Tampa Pro energy, or just love stories about finding your people, hit play. Subscribe, share this with a friend who still skates, and leave us a review.
Welcome And The Day’s Plan
SPEAKER_06Y'all Polly on the pod. Every day. I said it. Do it. Right up. Right now. Right now. Now. Things up used to be as easy as they used to be there. Getting a hotter every day. About what's going on about you. And what's happening is that you when it's time to get you a no-house. It's what I get from now.
SPEAKER_01Hey friends, it's your boy Paulie here. Thanks for tuning in. If you don't mind, take this time to uh like and subscribe to the podcast, the Instagram, YouTube channel, all that good stuff. Share it with your friends. We'd be uh hella stoked and mega appreciative. But uh yeah, this episode we got was a treat. We originally uh planned to sit down with my homie Nick Day, he's a St. Augustine local, um who you know he's 20 years young and he he's got some heavy connections in the industry and he's been utilizing them and just been keeping his head straight and traveling, skating, and ripping. Um so we wanted to sit down and talk to him. He recently got back from San Francisco at this uh at the same time we had uh Taylor Clark as seen in uh Thrasher magazine. Uh Taylor Clark, the stand-up comedian and skateboarder, was in town doing a comedy show presented by the Block Skate Shop here in Jacksonville, Florida at the newly opened bar and restaurant in Five Points in the Riverside area of Jacksonville, Florida, called Neon Moon. It was a super rad show. Uh Doc reached out to Taylor. We were able to link up with him before the show, um chop it up, have a little convo. So uh here's episode 31. Uh we sit down with my boy Nick Day from St. Augustine. We link up with uh Taylor Clark as well, and uh we have an epic conversation. It was a rad day. We spent uh the morning skating Treaty Skate Park in St. Augustine. We headed over to the Monty Skate Park in East Arlington, Jacksonville, Florida, and uh Taylor had never been to the legendary Kona Skate Park, so you know I scooped him up from Flossy DIY downtown in Springfield, took him over there, and we chopped it up at a picnic table right outside the freestyle area. You can hear the skating going on in the background. It was a rad time, he's a rad dude. Um before we get into the conversation though, uh enjoy a couple of uh my favorite jokes. Um being that I'm a skateboarder and a father, I kind of cherry-picked uh my favorites. Uh but I got a couple clips for you coming up here in a minute. Um so if you have the opportunity in the future to check out Taylor Clark when he comes to a city or a town near you, skate shop, skate park, definitely check him out. He's hilarious, not just on skating topics, a super rad dude, and uh and yeah, I hope you guys enjoy. I know I did, it was uh it was definitely a hella fun day, day for the books, and uh here without further ado, it's episode 31.
SPEAKER_00Your boy Pauly Walnuts, Doc Jones, Taylor Clark, and Nick Day. Let's fucking get it.
Taylor’s Skateboarding Comedy Clips
SPEAKER_03No, no, no, no. No, no, no. Silence is the right reaction. You know how hard it is to not realize your best friend is 14 until it gets weird. It happens to me all the time. I don't see age, right? I just see someone who's really good at skating, so I'm just like, hey, you want to go to the bar? And they're like, I have homework. And I'm like, I'm a sad, sad man. You know what people call me now? An adult skateboarder. I hate that expression. That sounds like a mysterious problem. That sounds like a diagnosis. We don't know how much time he has. I should be in a basement right now with a bunch of other dudes like me, you know, just healer. When you watch videos, next thing you know, you're in your bridge at 28. And that's when you realize you left your kid in the Uber. Anyways. Fuck rollerbladers, skater daddy.
SPEAKER_07Good meeting.
SPEAKER_03It's just that I want to have kids and girls become women when they're like 12. Whereas boys become men sometimes. You know, there's some kids I hate. Like if you have a kid with a razor scooter, you should burn it. The kid. 100% chance they fade. If you need another reason. This is the most offensive part to me as a skateboarder is you're so close to riding a skateboard. Like you're so close. Like you were one pole and two wheels away from like being cool. And if imagine if you rode bikes, right? And then like an entire generation of kids just catch their training wheels on. Like you just writing around like, yeah, I didn't have to learn to ride this thing. It doesn't make any sense. It's a foreign language to most people. My mom didn't know what we were talking about. She thought we were talking about girls half the time. Like we'd be driving around in the car, and she'd see like a girl sitting on a bench, and she'd be like, hey boys, what do you think about that girl on the bench? And me and my brothers wouldn't even see the girl. We'd just see the bench. So we're like, hey, thanks for pointing that out, mom. I'm gonna grind the shit out of that thing. Oh yeah. I'm gonna wax it up. Hit it front side, backside. And then Thomas, you can hit it, you're goofy, right? You can come in, blow it up, right? And then and then we can light it up, film it, put it on the internet. What do you guys think? And then my mom's like, what the fuck is going on with that?
First Time At Kona Together
SPEAKER_01All right, guys, it's your boy Paulie Walnuts. I'm here with the homie Doc Jones. We got the one and only uh Taylor Clark comedy in the house. Yo. We got my boy Nick D904 in the house.
SPEAKER_02What is up?
SPEAKER_01What is good, fellas? What up, Les? We're out here, beautiful day, sunny Florida, Jacksonville. Gonna talk some skateboarding, gonna talk some jokes. So, Taylor, this is your uh first time in Jacksonville, right? This is my first time in Jacksonville, Florida. First time at the Legendary Conan Skate Park? This is my first time at the Legendary Conan Skate Park. We are popping cherries today, ladies and gentlemen. This is my first cherry that I've ever popped.
SPEAKER_03Oh shit. So, what brings you in town? Tell the people uh why you're here. Uh, I'm on a tour right now, a stand-up comedy tour. I'm doing a lot of shows at skate shops, but always kind of affiliated with whatever the local skate community is and whatever area I'm at. On my way to Tampa Pro to do a show down there for the contest. Right on, right on. Where are you performing at tonight? Tonight I am at the Neon Moon in six five points? Five points. It's a bunch of points there. Five points, dude.
SPEAKER_02It's in a neighborhood that's rather pointy. That's right. Five points is not early. That's it. You'll see some shit there, dude. Perfect for me, right on brand. Oh, come on. Right on brand. It's at Jacksonville life, dude. What's up? How old are you? I'm 37. Nice, me too. Oh, happy birthday. You look much better than I do. You have all your hair.
SPEAKER_01Oh, you know. I think we've both had some uh some rough times in our life, though. Yeah, still currently going. I wear my scars on the inside. Gross. Yeah. Well, I first heard about you on uh on Instagram senior round. Honestly, uh I love the whole uh the the comparing like the skateboard and the old dudes to the kind of like the AA meetings. Oh, that really hit home because uh three years ago I quit drinking and was in those meetings, and and then I am also an adult skateboarder, so it definitely uh hit the funny bone there for me. When did you get into comedy?
SPEAKER_03Uh I started when I was like 21 years old in Seattle. Um I there's just like a comedy club right down the street from my house, and I went to an open mic and was like, oh, some of these guys are so bad, you know. I was like, uh I I I wasn't scared to try it after that because I was like, I won't be the worst one here.
SPEAKER_01Right on, right on. And I mean booze don't really hurt that bad, right?
SPEAKER_03No, the boo oh well booze uh has hurt me very bad uh over the course of my life, but the booze of an audience, uh oh no, that only fuels me. That's right, that's right.
SPEAKER_01When did you get into skateboarding?
SPEAKER_03I started skating uh when I was 12 years old.
SPEAKER_01Right on, right on. Was it passed down older brother or just no?
SPEAKER_03I didn't have any older siblings. I had a couple of kids in my middle school that I really wanted to impress, and uh I I went skating with them and I had like an old, you know, Toys R Us hand-me-down Nash board with a no grip tape. Yeah. Uh and uh I showed up to their house to go like bomb a hill and they were laughed in my face, you know what I mean? Like about the kind of the skateboard that I had, and I was like, a skateboard's a skateboard. And they were like, You could not be more wrong about this. Like, get out of here, could be like that. But then I had the last laugh because we bombed the hill, and my bearings were so rusted and beat up that like I actually stood on my board the whole way down and they couldn't because they had good skateboards that could like roll the proper setup, and I was just like going through molasses like all the way down. They're like, Wow, that's crazy, you stood up down that whole hill. And then the next I went and like bought a skateboard immediately, like went to this local skate shop called the Slant, uh, which I don't think would be a proper name for a skateboard. That's a skate shop anymore. But uh I got a real skateboard there, and then we went and bombed that same hill, then like a few days later, and I ate shit like 30 times, like just piled out because I'd like I did it last time, and I stood on a real skateboard and was like, boom, boom, like over and over again, and I came home like covered in scabs and bleeding, and I told my mom, like, I think I love this.
SPEAKER_01Hell yeah. Yeah, those Walmart boards, those hard plastic bushings don't seem to get the speed wobbles.
SPEAKER_03No, yeah, exactly. They don't wobble because there's no the truck is one with a bushing, right?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it's all together. Is this your first time going out to perform at Tampa Pro or is this?
SPEAKER_03No, I did it last year. They invited me to come do a show at Tampa Pro uh 2021. Cool. Which was really amazing.
SPEAKER_02It's a good show, there it's pretty ride. Oh, thanks.
SPEAKER_03Uh yeah, it was outdoors. It was a little rough. I was on crutches too. Oh, yeah. So I had just broken my ankle. So like I remember getting on stage and like throwing my crutches down, and like I had my plastic boot on, so I wasn't like the most like performative that night.
SPEAKER_04Homie was on a sick one for sure. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01So you guys, Nick, Nick, you and uh, you and Taylor know each other.
SPEAKER_04Oh yeah, we picked it at the bricks like outside, and like yeah, I met him last year at Tampa, at Tampa Pro.
SPEAKER_03And were you at Tampa Am as well? Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04I saw you both years actually.
SPEAKER_03That's right, yeah. And we have some yeah, some mutual friends, which is so bad about skating.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it's it's sick. It's definitely a fucking tribe.
SPEAKER_04Yep.
SPEAKER_01Yep, so uh we got we got a big thing coming up, you know. We got Tampa, then after that, we got the 45th anniversary right here at Kona Skate Park. And every five years when they do the big anniversary party, if you if you're still in Florida, dude, you gotta come back through because it's like all the legends descend and all this gnarly haggard concrete.
SPEAKER_03Oh my god, I'll try to fuck 45. I'll be here for the 50. I'll tell you that. I'll be here for the 50.
SPEAKER_01Don't play Jake Wooten, Frontside Ollie, I remember the video of that on the tombstone. Yeah, and when you look at it and you're
Kona Legends And The Tombstone
SPEAKER_01like, no, that's like six feet of just Vert. It's a bank to Vert.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, like that. I'm sc I'd be scared to climb up that as a rock climber.
SPEAKER_01You want to know something interesting? Well, just for me growing up here, knowing a little of history. You know, the first drop-in was on the tombstone. It was a guy, Mitch Kaufman. I mean, it's been disputed. The first ever drop-in. Drop in from a tail. It was what 1979, I think. Yeah, it was Mitch Kaufman for sure. Mitch Kaufman, and he was a Atlantic Beach, Jack's Beach local here.
SPEAKER_04Three documentaries about it, actually.
SPEAKER_01Rat Town, yeah, yeah, there's a few documentaries, and he was like not doing well. They had a contest in the bowl, and nobody had even thought to go up there. They had the skinny, you know, plank, you know, torpedo-shaped boards, and he put it up his tail over, and he went for it. He ate it the first one, got right back up and did it. What a gangster. And then what was this in like 1904 or something? Yeah, dude.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I think it was 79, which is like a cat, he had spurs on when he did it. Yeah. And I think there were like roller skate trucks. He had a robe on? Yeah, exactly. Yeah, he had a powdered wig when he did it.
SPEAKER_05So uh had the syphilis, that's why they were going back to your comedy a little bit.
SPEAKER_01I mean, I see a lot of the skate uh-oriented stuff. I mean, is that kind of the root of your inspiration? Because it's been a lot of people.
SPEAKER_03I mean, no, I'm like a I'm a I'm a comedian, you know what I mean. I just want to get paid to play, like I just want to do shows for general audiences and build a fan base. And uh and in comedy, you just want to talk about what you know, talk about your truth. And so from the time I started doing comedy, I've always tried to include some sort of skateboarding in even if just referential inside of my comedy. But uh it wasn't until I recorded my recorded my album and like polished the jokes and like put them on my album that I was like, oh, I'm gonna lead my promotion with my skateboard jokes because it's like the most close to who I am, you know. Right. And in a dream world, I had this show that I wanted to make called Comedians at Skate Parks, and I had, you know, high aspirations for going on tour and being able to skate at all the places I went. So that was the big part of it. It was like, I'd love to be able to just do a tour where I get to like get, you know what I mean, go skating in all the new places I go because I tour as a comedian and then go to a new place and be able to not be able to skate and nobody and no films, and this is just a way for me to manipulate my career to you know live my 12-year-old childhood dream.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, I love it. I love it.
SPEAKER_01It's inspiring for sure. We got uh, you know, Doc, he does a little stand-up comedy too. A devil. Yeah, I gotta tell you though, Taylor, like I've heard a lot of people make jokes and and about you know, trying to involve the skating, you've got a really unique way of uh of involving it. Yeah, his his his attempts are uh dude, my attempts are part of the stuff.
SPEAKER_03No man, I tell everyone to keep trying because just like any joke, it it's hard to make jokes funny. So what it just takes time. So that was the hardest part was like I I would have jokes, I was like, I know skaters like this, but how do I get it to be funny to like a general audience? Like a you know, like a Midwest don't ever fucking know a thing about skating, and then eventually I started being able to it started working. But I was like 10 years into comedy at that point, you know? Yeah. It took a while. Well, it's working, dude.
SPEAKER_05They just take too much. I'm like, I know skateboarders will get it, but like making normal people get it, like it's not.
SPEAKER_03Well, most people don't know and the what helped me is I was like, most people don't know anything about skateboarding, and what they do know, I'll just take those little nuggets and try to spoon feed my culture right into their fucking face. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_01That's right. So uh how would you came into Jocks today?
SPEAKER_03Uh last night actually pulled in at like 3 a.m.
SPEAKER_01What are you what have you been doing all day? You've seen uh we've been skating?
SPEAKER_03We went to uh the block and uh the block is super and we skated. Yeah, we're shadow who Mike Peterson. Mike Peterson, yeah, fucking the kids. In the back. I know. We skated that little park in the back, and then we went to the uh DIY. Yeah, which is the one. That's where we scooped up slots. Oh, yeah. It's crunchy, dude. It should be called crunchy. It's awesome. We've been skating mad DYs along this whole trip. It's rad because like cities spend like a hundred million dollars or whatever on some skate park that eight people can ride or whatever, and then like uh like local skaters go build one for free in a fucking parking lot illegally, and that's still the best park. Yep, yep, yep.
SPEAKER_01I mean, you saw the crowd out there just in the middle of the Saturday, and they were keeping like little little kids up to you know, old men, like like ourselves. Great bushes and in the building. Yeah, that's right. No, we uh we had we we've we've had a ripping day today. We we woke up, scooped up old Nick in uh hit treaty, which is down in St. Augustine. That park's been around like 20 years.
SPEAKER_03One of the oldest cities in the world. Yeah, I mean in the country.
SPEAKER_01In the country, yep, yep, yep. Old town.
SPEAKER_03It's haunted as fuck. I bet there's so much. It is haunted, too. They get ghost tours down there and ghost tours, dude.
SPEAKER_04They like bring them in the graveyard and shit. That is crazy. I don't know.
SPEAKER_03I don't really necessarily buy into a lot of that, but I love talking to people who do.
SPEAKER_04Oh, yeah. No, I don't believe I'm a skeptic. You know how it is.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I read uh if you guys want to pay me, I could tell you all your futures.
SPEAKER_05My grandpa's right here. Y'all don't see him?
SPEAKER_01Like, I had an ex-girlfriend that read tarot cards. You know, pretty sure I could tell you your fortune. Oh my god, one of them. You're getting laid.
SPEAKER_04That's what he's like, yeah, just agree.
SPEAKER_05Nobody knows if you're wrong with that shit, anyways. They're not gonna read the book.
SPEAKER_01No, I feel like mod fortune would just be eminent doom.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, you're we're all gonna die. Have you ever heard that William Shatner song, You'll Have Time? Yeah, no. It's fucking awesome. It's just like you're uh live life like you're gonna die because you are. You are. Yeah. It's inevitable. I didn't know William Shatner's pool of music. Doug, he has an album out. I'm glad to talk about this on the podcast. William Shatner has a sleeper album that you guys are fucking gonna love. Ben Folds produced it. It's his second album. Don't fuck with William Shatner's first album.
Skate Lingo, Style, And First Boards
SPEAKER_03It's garbage. His second album is actually one of the best musical albums in the car. You'll have time. Old Billy Shatz.
SPEAKER_05It hurts on the mic, dude. He's still doing it. I'm about to spotify that when I get home.
SPEAKER_01You're not gonna regret it. Add that to the playlist for sure. So let's uh let's ask you the important questions. Uh are you goofy or regular? Goof. But I skate a lot of switch. That's what I was about to ask next. Fakey or switch. I'm a switch guy. Front side or backside? Front side. Alright. All right. Look where we're going. Street.
SPEAKER_02I like that. I like that.
SPEAKER_03Street or tranny. Or both. Street. Slants. Yeah. But I fuck with tranny a lot too. Hell yeah. Well, transitions. I'm very woke of you my vocabulary. That's very woke of you. Yeah, street tranny. That just sounds like a film that was made in the 70s. Yeah, yeah. I gotta change my vocabulary.
SPEAKER_05You got your first board from Slants, dude. I mean, it's slant.
SPEAKER_03I got my slant board and shredded tranny.
SPEAKER_01That is kind of funny when you think about it. If like people who don't know, they walk up on a group of like of us.
SPEAKER_03We're like hacking. My buddy Tuan, who's featuring for me, has like the best joke about this. So come to the show and see Tuan's joke because he crushes this exact joke that we're all clocking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01I love it. I love it. Um, yeah, I'll definitely be out there tonight. I think the old lady gets off in time to join me too. So it'll be the first time.
SPEAKER_03She's never been to a live stand-up show.
SPEAKER_01We we have. We actually just went and saw uh Big J Oakerson when he was in town at the Comedy Zone. Which is killer. Yeah, oh dude, love him. Um we uh the comedy zone is a very Florida hotel where you get it from the I know of it, yeah. Yeah, very modern Hooker hotel. You know. But no, this is I'm excited to go check out.
SPEAKER_03Why aren't we doing our podcast there?
SPEAKER_01Right? We should go. I I voted for it, dude. They voted no. Uh no, I'm excited to go check out Neon Moon. It's got a bunch of buzz here locally just because it's like skater owned and operated. It seems to have a really cool vibe.
SPEAKER_04They're playing skate videos, dude. They're really they're keeping it real, man.
SPEAKER_03I love that. I went to a record shop today, I forget what it was. Called, but they were also playing like Tom Penny video, so it was like style, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01So who did you grow up kind of idolizing? I mean, you heavy street.
SPEAKER_03Definitely one of them. Benny was my like definitely one of my idols, but uh I would say like Rodrigo Tex and anybody, yeah, all the guys with like massive pop. Like I love Danny Montoya was one of my favorite skaters back in the day. And uh as I've aged, you know, like I'm really into like Tom Knox, is like probably my number one guy right now. Yeah. I shot, obviously. Oh yeah, for sure, for sure. Oh, but Rush, shout out to Russian George. Follow him on Instagram. He's one of the coolest fucking skaters. And Nardo from Fancy Lad is probably one of my favorite skaters too. Oh yeah, I'll have to check them out.
SPEAKER_04Fancy Lad. Sick.
SPEAKER_01So what was uh I mean you said your first board was the uh the the target board board?
SPEAKER_03Pal blank boards. Pal blank, I got it. Did you get it blank?
SPEAKER_04What was it just gonna be?
SPEAKER_03Beggars couldn't be choosers. My aunt went and bought it for me. I see. And uh, yeah, I dude, I really fucked up. I got like longboard wheels on it. Oh no, no, that was like my second or third board. I like, I was like, let's experiment. I was like, I'll have more pop if the wheels are bigger. That's like actually the logic I used. And I remember buying it, and some guy who rode for the shop looked at me like, what the fuck is that thing? Like a skinny popsicle stick board, you know what I mean? Like 7.4. Because old monster wheels, probably got wheel wheels, yeah, risers, you know.
SPEAKER_02That's some Florida shit right there.
SPEAKER_05It was a joke. Um, my first skateboard, my mom got in the gravity board wheels for it for Christmas because she had no idea. Right. And uh give it. Like, these are soft and look cool. Yeah, yeah, they're gel, Chris. They're pretty cool, right? Like, she's fucking bitch, dude. It's made fun of so hard.
SPEAKER_03You gotta learn some respect for that mom. She just tried to buy you a gift. Yeah, I was about to say, I saw it. Jesus Christ. She got my ass kicked, dog. She's trying to be a good mom. You're like, you fucking bitch.
SPEAKER_02I want real, better wheels. I didn't know. I love it. I wanted a Lamborghini.
Work, School, And Growing Up Skating
SPEAKER_05My mom got my older brother a car and my younger brother a car.
SPEAKER_03And then she bought you the wrong wheels.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, yeah. Bought me the wrong set of wheels, dog. Got them the right hair. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01No, I remember uh when I uh early skating, I moved down here in like 98, 99, started skateboarding when I was 14, and uh I remember asking my pops for you know another board more money for another board and shit like that, and he was like, fucking Win Dixie's right there, and child labor laws are 14. Tell a plot. And that's when it started. And then I quickly realized, like, wait, in construction I can make even more money. And you dropped out of school? No, I I can't I can tell you would have thought because I was never there, but I somehow was bright enough to always pass that attendance test that they would make you take. It's like you've missed 21 days this this semester, you know what I mean? Like totally somehow.
SPEAKER_03I I I was like a really shitty kid. I would like fucking like I would like memorize my teacher's logins and shit like that, and just go in there and be like, ooh, I got a 90 on this one, and I was here all these days.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah, no, very, very similar, and it sucked because my sister was uh a year and a half older than me, and she was a polar opposite. Like we skipped school one time, and and because she hadn't studied for a test, and I was like, Oh, I do this all the time, let's go. And it was the most miserable. I was like, Nina, just take me to school. She was so like anxiety ridden, and it was just like the most miserable. It was like we're supposed to be having fun. Like, fucking just take me back. Like, you're not meant for this lifestyle. But security knew me, and they're yeah, it was awful.
SPEAKER_05Paul, get your ass in here.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, once they know you by your first name, you are. What do you do construction for? Um, I still am like in the trades now. Okay, okay. Pretty much wood shop in in high school or middle school initially, but then as I started skating here, there were older guys that kind of took me under their wing. They were like helping me with skating, that were all working construction, so they're like, kid, if you want to make some money, like come after school or on the weekend and just scrap out for us. So I'd essentially clean up the job sites. Right, right. And they would teach me shit. Yeah, yeah, go get some fucking good wheels. Yeah, exactly. And then I'd come skate and where a bunch of little jits would be intimidated to go down to the old mini ramp that was down there because all the old guys were down there, they're like, come on down, and I'm like, fuck yeah. Part of the trouble. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03You already know.
SPEAKER_01Cocaine by 14, it was awful.
SPEAKER_03That's awesome. But then you meet other 14-year-olds, and then you're like a grizzled man. Pretty nice.
SPEAKER_07I'm like, you have no work ethic. Yeah, yeah.
Let People Skate Their Own Way
SPEAKER_01You ever punched in before, Brad? Yeah, yeah. Yep, no, but that's that's fucking rad man. Skateboarding's a beautiful thing, and uh, I just it's crazy because so many different people, you know, can relate through it, and it's like we go, it doesn't matter what city you go to. I mean, we just met you today, you're here for a comedy show, and we're just all chopping it up here at the park. It's like it just really is one universal tribe. There's really nothing else like it, in my opinion.
SPEAKER_03No, it's really not. I mean, like, comedy is probably the closest thing I can relate to it, in that like it's uh definitely it's a community, and if you don't do it, you just don't get it. Right. So, like some people like skating to watch it or whatever, but unless you do it, like there's truly no way to really understand. But even then, it's like completely unique. It's not like music, it's not like any other sport, it's not like comedy, it's like it's skating, and it's uncomparable really to anything else. And I've dabbled in all the different subcultures you can think of, and it's still completely a unicorn within all of the other, you know, platforms or subcultures or lifestyles or what have you. Right on. No, I totally agree.
SPEAKER_05Basketball players don't hang out like this.
SPEAKER_03They aren't like, oh man, we gotta go hit that new court that they just opened in Jacksonville. Oh my god. No one gives a shit. No, yeah, yeah, for sure. It's all uniform, you know what I mean? Like everything else is like standard and structured, and skating is like you could build us a park, but we're still gonna go build the DIY, and then I'm still gonna go get kicked out of the plaza, and I'm you know, I'm still gonna bitch at my mom for not giving me the right wheels or whatever. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Ladies and gentlemen, that's our callback.
SPEAKER_05She got my ass whipped, dude. That's funny. That's her fault, yeah. Why do you have a black eye? Because you bought me the wrong wheels, mom. That's fine. And you drop the wheels, mom. Threw me in a trash can.
SPEAKER_03Skateboarding every lot more accepting with that shit. You don't get beat up ramming the wrong wheels anymore.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, no, for sure. And that's one thing I was talking with our homie Joey. Shout outs to him earlier. Was like, I remember being younger, like all these cool old school tricks, like Nick, king of the laybacks and the tail blocks and sweepers. You would be the kookiest nerd when I was skating if I pulled up and did that shit. We were like, we want blunt fakes and back disasters and shit like that.
SPEAKER_03You'd like someone I there was a guy, it was like a fucking Catholic nun would like smack your fingers if you grabbed your board. Like no street grabs, like dude. Seriously, he'd like fucking clack your fingers and shit. If he saw you doing methods, he'd be like, What the fuck? Fucking just keep your fingers off that thing.
SPEAKER_07Two push-ups, two push-ups.
SPEAKER_03Um yeah, it's crazy. But now, it's honestly, and I and then because I don't know how you were, but I went through it. People were like really fucking harsh on me, depending on all the kind of things. I did bowl launches and Benny Hanas. Like, nobody wanted to talk to me back in the day. But now, uh, and then I would honestly be like at just as snobby as I got older and be like, no, you're supposed to skate like this, and only you know, don't your hard flips can't go through your legs. Fucking get out of here.
SPEAKER_05You know, heart flips are supposed to go, dude.
SPEAKER_03I don't know, but now it's like even me, I go and like watch skating that I at one point would have really frowned upon, and it fucking gets me hype, you know. And I'm like stoked for kids that can like learn how to do it all because it's all for fun. And if I take myself off my high horse, I do like watching a good switch vario flip, you know?
SPEAKER_01Dude, I uh it's uh completely agree. Wendy just doing like skate camps and skate lessons out there.
SPEAKER_03Those are the skate gods being like, no vario flips.
SPEAKER_05Blow the food away. 360 shove my ass.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Rap your impossibles or die.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, no, it's uh it's been cool because when I was doing lessons in in skate camps here, I had the opportunity as these younger kids were learning, and they would get interest and be like, Well, I want to learn a sweeper, or I want to learn a layback in this. I'm like, Well, I don't know how to do it, I've never done that. Like, that wasn't cool when I was your age. So then I'm literally was learning it with them.
SPEAKER_03Yep. And it was like this with no complies. I never learned to do no complies because people gave me shit and like it with bonelesses and all that kind of stuff. And uh I remember like being like, Okay, guys, whatever you say, I won't practice these. And then now I'm like in the parking lot, same thing, like learning how to do these and asking these eight-year-olds how to teach me how to primo or whatever, you know. That's fucking rad. Because I still do want to learn how to do all that. Dude, no complies are dope. No complies are so dope. I've never been able to do them because they whack the fucking soft spot in my knee.
SPEAKER_01I had to go over that, I know.
SPEAKER_03I'll do a hundred fucking no-complies. I don't care, dude. I want to get those backside three ones. I've only done like a handful of them, but those feel so sick. They look so good, too. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Well, that's honestly what I've loved about you watching you grow up and skate, Nick, too, just here locally, is you've always kind of had your style and you've done your tricks. And I just remember hearing about this kid that skated treaty all the time, and he'd do fly outs. All fly out now.
SPEAKER_02That was a flyout.
SPEAKER_03That was me. I did a backflip once like Slugo. I did it. Do you ever do a backflip like Sluggo? Fuck no. No, I did one of those my claim to fame, and also the like ruined my reputation training that I did. Did you go to Canada to do that? No, no, no, no. I did live in Canada for a minute. Say again. What's up? Dog, you're it's an invite only, bro.
SPEAKER_05We appreciate you.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah. No role. That was bold of him to just invite himself onto the podcast.
SPEAKER_01I was, I was, yeah, I was about to say, I was like, well, props for the balls. I was giving the mic.
SPEAKER_04Let's talk about my mongoose bike, my mom was bought.
SPEAKER_01Did she buy you the right wheels?
unknownNo.
SPEAKER_03So you were a fly out kid. I was a flyout, and people were telling you about him.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, about him, and just like, you know, just kind of just the chitter chatters, like, yeah, well, he does he just does flyouts all the time and this and that, and he does like sweepers. But now you go, you see him rip and skate. There's another kid local, Michael Black. He I remember watching him down a little mini ramp. He just wanted to learn inverts. And he would do it, the hand on the ramp, below the coping on a tiny thing, just learning the hand turns. Dude, he's stuck with the way that he he's blasting backside airs, he's stalling on inverts. You know, same with this kid. We go skate treaty, it's a gnarly park to skate. He's ripping all around. He does a head-high fly out into this bank, all tuckneed and tweak, and it's like, you know, it's still there's endless inspiration with the skateboard. And if you get on it and you have fun, just express yourself the way you want to, fuck what everybody else thinks or says, and I think that's where it's finally come as a community. While everybody's like, Well, you grow into it, right?
SPEAKER_03Like you grow, like however you learn and whatever you like, obviously, like there's room for everybody, but then you do develop like your own opinions and your own taste and what you like, and then there because you learn about what you like, naturally you also learn about stuff you don't like. Yeah, yeah. So I think it's okay to have like big opinions or whatever, as long as you're not like like smacking kids' fingers because they don't match what you know what I mean, what you want. Like you let live and let live, essentially. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01So um, you said you're living in Seattle. Are you from Seattle originally? Where'd you go?
SPEAKER_03I was actually born in Vegas, uh and then I I moved to Las Vegas. I left Las Vegas when I was 12. I moved to Washington, like out Everett, Washington, just outside of Seattle. Cool, cool. Not really, but it's fine. I live there now. It's a shitty town that I love, and uh Jacksonville. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01I was about to say the like the one here.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I I I find a lot of Florida people feel like that. They're like, I love it here, but
Florida Wildness And The Bone Bucket
SPEAKER_03God, they'd fucking burn this place to the ground. It's a love hate, it's a love hate for sure.
SPEAKER_01Flor Florida is definitely, I feel like we're like the outback of uh of America. It's it's kind of wild from the people to the wildlife. It gets a little hectic down here. Yeah. You better watch it.
SPEAKER_04We're fighting gators, dude. We're doing all types of shit.
SPEAKER_03It's a really unique part of the United States, too, because it's so tropical, so it also just has a completely different climate and environment physically than anywhere else.
SPEAKER_01Wild monkey populations that have escaped during hurricanes, like from zoos, and so they just thrive. Like you go to Silver Springs and have cows. I've got footage of me kayaking down Silver Springs, and there's like 30 Rhesus macaque monkeys along the water's edge climbing. I'm a skate nerve.
SPEAKER_04I was gonna say tours.
SPEAKER_03No, that's you tell me the different leaf patterns on all these fucking trees.
SPEAKER_01Well, we saved a husband spider out of the bowl earlier today. Oh, right.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, dude. Oh, it was a simple fucking preserve it in like plastic and uh you can study it when you get home in your little lab.
SPEAKER_01Exactly, exactly. Dexter's laboratory. Yeah, we get back to the truck.
SPEAKER_04He's like, has anybody seen a spider? We're all like, fuck. Dude, Paul he's been making new species at home, man.
SPEAKER_05Paul, tell him about your bone bucket. I've got a bone bucket. I collect bones.
SPEAKER_07Oh shit.
SPEAKER_01Who doesn't have a bone bucket? Everybody in Florida's got a bone bucket under their bones. So I like I like going hiking out these state parks and stuff, and and I've always kind of thought bones were unique when I found them when I was a kid. And so, like, if I find, like, I found, I was really upset because I didn't have my bucket. I found a boar carcass out at Jennings State Forest two weeks ago. But the skull was intact. The vultures picked it completely clean, other than the hide in the skull, and I was gonna take it, and you just let nature decompose all the tissue, and then you soak it in boric acid and salt, and it evaporates all of the moisture from the tissue, and then it's preserved.
SPEAKER_03Dude, I love how you're talking to me about this. Like, I'm just as into it as you are. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like you're like, oh, a guy who's just as fascinated with the decomposition of fucking body parts. I told you, bro, I'm gonna nerd.
SPEAKER_04I'll go home and read it on my Kindle. I read books, motherfuckers.
SPEAKER_03I read books too, but they're not fucking about the fucking rotting carcasses of the nature around me. You know? Hey, nature's metal. I like Stephen King as much as the next guy, but you you're like trying to get a fucking bachelor's degree over here.
SPEAKER_05He's like, You got a spare bucket of the house, it got to be a good idea for it. I love Discovery Channel and Steve Irwin when I was a kid.
SPEAKER_03That's what's up. I love that shit too.
SPEAKER_05Steve Irwin, I don't think I had a bone bucket.
SPEAKER_03I'm pretty sure too. So anyway, we we fucking jumped off base. I was I was stoked to hear about your history as a flyout kid going that went to what, now you skate street mostly, right? No, I'm actually skate everything.
SPEAKER_04I skate everything I could, yeah, dude. It's just like everybody's pushed me, man, and like I love the heckling, dude. Ever since I was young, you know, I just like I grew up at a flyout park. So you know we would get off of school, get right off that fucking bus. Mommy, mommy, take me to skate park. We're gonna go pack a sandwich and go do flyouts all day.
SPEAKER_03Okay, that's a that's a nice way to talk to your mom. Take a note. I know, fucking love.
SPEAKER_05My mom's a sick one, dude. I'm the only one that gave her grandchildren, all right, dude. I'm good for you. Good for you.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. Um, go ahead. We would just like go to the park, dude, eight o'clock in the morning, skip school, and just like stack trash cans. We'd be like, all right, how high can we go? And we dude, we would totally remember that shit. Right to my fucking feet. I was like, what, 11 or 12? And then I stopped doing your grab of choice. Dude, I really like stealthishes.
SPEAKER_03Oh, yeah, that's fucking right for the top of the totem pole there. Stelfish, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01And you can do them, and they're sick.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, stealthish is fun, it's a good thing. Yeah, that's good.
SPEAKER_01You can pull your body up really tight and top
Nick’s Travel Grind And Skate Network
SPEAKER_01date. Yeah, he's got good laybacks.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, man, I've just I've been just skating, rip riding around everywhere, dude. Like I just got back from San Francisco and uh we were doing some uh stuff over there, uh skating lower bobs. I actually just had the Pea Stone event over there in the show. How was that? Yeah, I didn't get to go, I I got invited, but I couldn't get out there. But um, I was there a week before, how sad, like you know, and um it sucked. I couldn't make it, but uh shot some photos for you know, shout out Wolfgang out of Long Beach, Van Eggers, all the homies, you know. And uh yeah, dude, it's been awesome, it's been an experience. I'm just thankful for everybody, you know.
SPEAKER_01No, your Instagram is is is sick because I'm I'm out here grinding, working, fucking all the time, and then I I check your post, dude, and it's like Califor one city in California today, and then it's like you know, a couple weeks later he's in Philly, and then like New York, and it's like, yes, dude. You are out of the move. You are doing it. 20 years old and you are fucking living it, bro.
SPEAKER_04Stay on the move, man. Just skate, sleep wherever you can, dude. Under the vert ramp at FDR. Oh, rest in peace, vert ramp at FDR. It's just burned down recently, actually.
SPEAKER_01Damn.
SPEAKER_04But uh seems to be a little bit more.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, FDR is uh that's a wild one, dude. So you're doing a lot of like car camping and like uh sleeping outside, sleeping in bowls, anywhere you can send me.
SPEAKER_01You slept in an office chair last night.
SPEAKER_04I just actually uh a couple months ago, I was actually in uh San Diego. I stayed at Wes Kramer's house for a couple days.
SPEAKER_03Sickers to go out there.
SPEAKER_04And that was one of the most fried experiences I've ever had. I had like skateboarding.
SPEAKER_01Hell yes.
SPEAKER_04I literally woke up to breakfast uh breakfast because dude, like Wes is awesome, man. Like he really supports the skaters, man, and dude, he's a humble dude and he's been in it for a while. Shout out skate mafia, extra. So ripping, dude. Yeah, Wes is always on a sick one, and just staying at his place just like showed me how connected the skateboarding world is. It's really just a big family, you know what I'm saying? Like we're all in this together, you know, we're so big and small at the same time.
SPEAKER_03Like it feels so overwhelmingly big, and then you make a few connections and you realize it's all one tight.
SPEAKER_04I've learned so much, you know, over like the years of skateboarding, and you know, like how it just brings people together, and you know, we're all like just trying to have fun and like help each other out on our journeys, you know what I'm saying? Oh, for sure.
SPEAKER_01You spent some time with uh who else out there? Uh Navs, uh Peter.
SPEAKER_04Got some uh video at Noah at uh Combi Pool, Van Skate Park. They actually just opened it back up because of COVID. Uh they closed that thing down for a while. But Plants Mountain and everybody they've had uh they've been having regular sessions there like every day, and they're absolutely rolling, dude. And they're not gonna stop. They're gonna keep going, keep progressing, and it's just an inspiration, you know, being on the deck with these dudes and getting pushed from them to like push harder and you know, like skate, you know, faster and commit and just get shit done, you know what I'm saying? Like that is rad. When you're there in the in the face of skateboarding in California, you know, like where it's all from, it's just like so open to you, like your eyes open up and you're like, wow, like this is it, you know what I'm talking about.
Gratitude, Discipline, And Getting Sober
SPEAKER_03It's tough to go at it. I mean, like, I remember being 20 years old and trying to be pursue professional skateboarding or whatever, and having this kind of like standard and expectation. It sounds like you have a good head on your shoulders where you're keeping it pretty like uh believe like realistic and you're living in the moment because I think a lot of people, and I know this in comedy for sure, you're kind of living in that FOMO space all day because you want more and you want to you feel like you deserve it all, and you want to like you know pay your bills and all that kind of shit. And it's uh it happens for so few people that actually like make it to a level where you can like you know buy a house from your you know fucking backtails or whatever. Like, so it's awesome to hear a young guy who's like just like kind of appreciating how much how awesome it is just to be a part of it.
SPEAKER_04Right, and you know, it's like people really, you know, like they expect a lot from skateboarding, and skateboarding doesn't own you fucking shit, dude. You know what I'm saying? Like it doesn't own you anything, and everybody around you is gonna keep telling you that, you know, because that's just how it is. I mean, people expect things and they get mad that they don't get what they want, and you know, and you should just take it as a graceful thing, skateboarding, man. Just being able to hop on your skateboard and get in that stress-free zone, you know, it's like an outlet. And uh it's awesome because people, you know, if you surround yourself with positive people, you know, you'll keep going. You know, you can't stop, you know.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, totally. Some of the darkest uh days of my life was in my early 20s when I I didn't even realize I quit skating kind of for a couple years because I was just partying and DJing and like living the nightlife all the time and would be waking up at two in the afternoon, hung over shit, like realizing I picked up my board once in six months, and then it was like, you know, kind of getting skateboarding back really brought the light back into my life.
SPEAKER_03Dude, it's funny you said that like when I got when I stopped, when I I I realized I was gonna pursue comedy full time, and it was like, alright, I don't want anything to get in my way, so I like quit drinking and and smoking and stuff because I didn't want any roadblocks, you know what I mean? I don't want to be able to look back and be like, man, if only I had quit drinking, maybe I uh maybe I'd have made it. So as soon as I put that stuff out of the way, skateboarding came back really hard because I was like, fuck me, I'm feeling healthy. Like I started skating a little bit more because uh honestly I just wasn't drinking. I had more time, I had more uh you know, mental awareness and I lost some weight. Feeling a little lighter on my board, and then I was like in my 30s, you know, being like, damn, dude, I'm still like skating. Hell yeah. You know what I mean? Like doing well, like doing as good as I ever did almost, you know, like outside of like filming tons of parts. And then uh like right at that same time, I was like, fuck, if I'm gonna pursue comedy and I was starting to travel for comedy, it was exactly that same time where I was like, man, I want to go on tour and skate and do comedy. Fuck yeah, dude. And it was like sobering up that like really even made that realistic, you know.
SPEAKER_01For sure. No, that's actually I first started podcasting like three years ago when I quit drinking. And it was something when I was younger, I just I always listened to talk radio. I always like kind of enjoyed it. When I was a kid watching sports or watching things, I always like it's like, man, that'd be cool to be on the radio, you know what I mean? And I just through skateboarding, and just the older I've got and everything, I've got all these interests, and it feels like I don't have time to really pursue them all. So it was like now that I once I sobered up, it was like I had the drive and the determination to just get a mixer and start reaching out to interesting people that I like in in. And inspired by the shit that they're doing and have some conversations.
SPEAKER_03That's like so skateboard philosophy, too. It's just like, do you want to get something? Well, fucking learn how to do it and go land that shit. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. And that's like sound.
SPEAKER_04It's a discipline, you know? You have to like get back up and keep doing this shit. Like filming apart is not easy, man. It takes time. Learning any trick is so hard.
SPEAKER_03I was saying that, like, that and that any skateboard trick has ever been landed is a miracle. For sure. Period. Like any in history. It is the craziest. It's the craziest, hardest thing to do.
SPEAKER_04You just flipped your board, man. You just invented that. No way. It's just crazy. It's like people are inventing stuff still. Like I'm seeing some crazy shit on the internet, like Instagram, crazy sweeper variations. People are like throwing their board in the air and it's coming back. Dude, skateboarding is so creative. It's just like you can make it your own and it's awesome.
SPEAKER_01It is, and I've been seeing a lot of shit that I'm like, wow, that's so crazy. I feel like that's never been done. And then honestly, I follow Mike Frazier, Florida Vert legends. And then he is like the king of posting archival footage of Vert skaters from the 80s and 90s and doing the shit that we're like mind-blowing about. It was already done. Yes, exactly. Street is the same thing. Exactly. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Street is like that too all the time, where you're like, man, I never thought anyone could do that. And you're like, well, and fucking 25 years ago, six people did it or whatever. 93 Henry. Uh-huh. But that's what's so rassid. And that's going back to what we were talking about, how much skateboarding has changed, because like NBDs, dude, I mean, like, dude, people would fight you for like doing the trick that they did on a spot or whatever. And like, I feel like so much of that energy is gone now. Like, I hear people be like, ah, who fucking cares? Just it'll you'll do it your way.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, skateboarding is very mellow right now because everyone's just starting to like
Skateboarding’s Boom And Park Etiquette
SPEAKER_04accept that. It's just like it's skateboarding industry right now is booming. I mean, for like COVID was a thing, and skateboards were off the shelves. Like they couldn't keep boards.
SPEAKER_03All the shops I've gone to said they did really, really well. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04And it kind of saved, not saved skateboarding, but it kind of gave it a little bit of a boost, you know, because there's a lot more acceptance for it now, I feel like. Some spots I go skate, like people don't care. They're like, all right, well, you know, don't sue us.
SPEAKER_01It's also been rad here locally, too. I don't know if you've seen this anywhere else, but honestly, bro, we've had it like an explosion of female roller skaters. I'm in. I like it. And a lot of it are girlfriends of guys that skate. And it's like they're going to do their own thing. Yeah, it's the fucking coolest shit. Like my old lady has been asking for the city.
SPEAKER_03And they fucking have skate park etiquette. This is like huge. For sure. Huge. Like rollers. They take one or two turns and then they wait. You know what I mean? Like, whereas like scooter kids, I've been talking about this on stage, like they they have so much stamina and they just don't stop. They just keep going. It's like a fucking living in a swarm of bumblebees. You know, it's crazy. And and it's hard to take them aside and be like, okay, you gotta wait your turn because by the time you explain it, they're off again. You know, so you can't keep track of them. Whereas like the roller skaters are grown women most of the time. They're like grown-ups. So they're not gonna come out and be in your way and assholes about it.
SPEAKER_04They understand, you know, they get out of your way. I mean, I see them all the time up in the mornings at the parks, you know, and it's crazy because like they respect the skaters and like we respect them, and it's like, okay, if we have this type of agreement, I guess you could say, it's just like fine, you know, we don't heckle them or anything.
SPEAKER_03I've always said every I love when people are at the skateboard, more people to hack them. The more the merrier. But just stay out of my fucking way, you know, like that's your exactly, exactly.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, just learn the new spoken rules and everybody's welcome. Yeah.
Where To Find Everyone
SPEAKER_01Well, shoot, guys, we've been talking for about 40, 45 minutes now, and I know you got uh a show later and you got some street skating to go do with the homies around town, so uh we won't keep you too long.
SPEAKER_03This has been awesome. Thank you so much for having me. What a great podcast, dude.
SPEAKER_01I appreciate it, man. I'm stoked that you know you were able to come you know with with such short notice, and uh definitely let everybody know where they can uh find you on uh social media.
SPEAKER_03I appreciate that. I am Taylor Clark Comedy on everything. My website is TaylorClarkCal, and I'm on tour right now. I'm doing uh West Coast tour in July. And uh, if you want me to come to your town, hit me up. And he's back on board, guys. I'm skating. My ankle has survived uh a giant surgery. Footage coming soon. No promises on that.
SPEAKER_01But what about you, Nick? You want to give any shout outs and uh and let them know where they can find you on social media?
SPEAKER_04Dude, Taylor, man, you're killing it, dude. I think it's awesome against you know skateboarding. It's just like people take it so serious nowadays. It's like, dude, it's just like we're all in this for fun, and I feel like comedy really you know brings a smile out of people. You know what I'm saying? I feel like that sometimes, yeah.
SPEAKER_03When I'm not getting when I'm not getting the booze. When you're not getting the booze. Sometimes it's like I'm gonna meet you in the alley. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04But no, I think it's super rad, and uh, just want to shout out Paulie, you know. I appreciate you, bro. Uh Kona Skate Park for a while now and keeping maintenance here, keeping this place in check with Marty Ramos and all my sponsors, uh, Jim Muir, everybody out in LA and the West Coast, and uh yeah, dude, just keep riding. Look at you, Mr. 20 year old.
SPEAKER_03You're so well spoken and good at this. Yeah, dude.
SPEAKER_01Well, thanks again, everybody, for uh for tuning in and listening. We'll definitely have to link up maybe via Zoom in the future to do you know, another episode. Yeah, anytime we'll we'll we'll link up again. But thanks for listening, everybody. Peace, love, and skateboarding later.