Pauly On The Pod
Pauly On The Pod
Duval Skate And Sound: Billy Winfield
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Bam Margera drops a rap diss and the internet does what it always does: dares you to watch. We took the hit for you and ran the live reaction, but the real heart of this one is Jacksonville’s own Billy Winfield stepping into the studio with us to talk skateboarding, music, and how a scene shapes the person you become.
Billy’s a local skateboarder and hip hop artist with a gritty, dark sound, and he’s got the stories to match. We go deep on growing up skating Kona Skatepark, learning tricks young, and how your style evolves when you’re chasing progression, catching slams, and dealing with the reality of injuries and getting older. From mini ramps to step-ups, we get nerdy about what feels right on a board and why skateboarding builds a kind of confidence you can’t fake.
Then we pivot into the music path: a drummer dad, a house full of sound, and a crash course in foundational hip hop like Wu-Tang, Tupac, and more. We talk catalog building, the pain of losing files, and why planning a smart release matters. Billy also previews his concept project “Failed To Load,” with track phases like startup, processing, error, reboot, and data retrieval, plus upcoming shows including a Jacksonville headline date.
If you’re into skate culture, Jacksonville hip hop, dark rap, and unfiltered takes on internet chaos, hit play, subscribe, share it with a friend, and leave us a review with your favorite moment from the conversation.
Welcome Back And Guest Tease
SPEAKER_07What the fuck's up? This is Billy Wimfield, and you're listening to Polly on the Pop with Polly Walnuts and Dr. Jones.
SPEAKER_11Hey everybody, it's your boy Paulie.
SPEAKER_01Look how you growing up for me.
SPEAKER_11You know, I got my boy Dr. Jones on the phone.
SPEAKER_01What's up, Doc?
SPEAKER_11What's good, my dude?
SPEAKER_09No, they just got done talking cartoons with Aaron Mullen, actually. Fuck yeah.
SPEAKER_11Shout out, Mullen. Hell yeah. What? Oh no, I was saying my dude. Oh, your dude, yeah, for sure. Our dude. Love that fucking guy. Gotta get him on again. But uh before we go too too far, you know, much further. Uh we'd appreciate it if everybody does enjoy Diaz does, and uh like, comment, subscribe. For real. Um, but anyway, uh episode 54. Uh I know we've taken uh quite a long break, but you know, the summer didn't go exactly as I had planned. Nothing ever seems to, but you know, we just kind of roll with the punches and uh keep on swinging. So uh we're back at it. It's August, and uh stoked to sit down with the dude that we sat down with, local uh skateboarder and hip-hop artist, the one and only uh Billy Winfield, fucking Duval's very own. So uh stand up uh if you're into that like real grungy street kind of dark hip-hop, he's right up your alley. I fucking love it.
SPEAKER_09Oh man, that dude's one of the like rattest, rattest dudes so far. Hell yeah. I love Billy now, dude. Like I never never got to hang out hang out with or meet him before, dude. And then like after that, like after our episode, I was like, Yeah, I think we just all became best friends.
SPEAKER_11Yeah, right. I think we just all became best friends. Um yeah, he he he threw a couple tricks down in the uh alleyway um afterwards, and uh man, we talked about uh fucking variety of things, everything from uh him growing up skating to how we got into music. Um shit. We uh we talked uh we did a little play stupid games, win stupid prizes segment, and uh then we talked about the whole Bam Margera uh rap beef. Um we're not really talked about that whole situation, more or less. We watched the video and we judged shamelessly and had a real good laugh.
SPEAKER_09Oh, oh man, you yeah, our live reactions to it.
SPEAKER_11Oh yeah, for sure. And I I you know it I looked up to him at one point like from a skating standpoint, and now I just like look at it as like a disappointed father, and I'm just like what are you doing, son? What are you doing? Get off the booze and the drugs and get back on your fucking skateboard, bro!
SPEAKER_09Do you think that's how his you think that's how his brother Jesse felt when Bam started making making way more money than him? And then now it's like Jesse's like Jesse's doing way better, so he's looking back down on him again.
SPEAKER_11Yeah, but I'm sure Jesse would want his brother just to be doing good. I'm sure Jesse's got a little bit more uh sad trombone vibes. Anyway, without further ado, episode 54, the one and only Billy fucking Winfield, super stoked. Uh, stay tuned to the whole episode. We got two of his fucking tracks on here, and uh yeah, you can catch him live. I know he's got, I think, a Kona show coming up. He's performing all the fucking time, but uh yeah, stoked. Let's get it.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, let's go, boys.
SPEAKER_03Should be played at high volume. Fucking daddy, people.
SPEAKER_06Look how you've grown up, poorly.
SPEAKER_07Let's go! He's crazy!
SPEAKER_04It's a price thing. Get the fuck out of here.
SPEAKER_06Hey, Dr. Donkey Don't Time. You are listening to Polly on the Fox.
SPEAKER_04So shut the fuck up, yo.
Meet Billy Winfield
SPEAKER_11Alright, hey everybody, it's your boy Pauly. Polly won a cracker. You know I got my boy Dr. Jones with me.
SPEAKER_09Watch up, Doc. Yeah, Polly wants to have a sweet ass.
SPEAKER_11Yeah, yeah, and we got uh the one and only Duval Zone. Billy Winfield in the house. What's good, dude? What up, what up, tapping? Hell yeah, hell yeah, man. Stoked to have you on. What's up, fam? I'm happy to be here. Hell yeah. As we are rolling up, my guy came correct.
SPEAKER_08Yes, sir. Breaking down some Gary Payton right now.
SPEAKER_11Hell yeah. So uh let's go ahead. Let me ask you right off the rip so everybody that doesn't know, they can find out. Are you uh from Jacksonville originally? Yes, sir, born and raised.
SPEAKER_08Well, that's a light light. I was born in Gainesville. There it is, dog. We found out a truth. Moved up to Jackson.
SPEAKER_09We found we found out the truth on Polly on the pod, dog. We don't let him slip with nothing. I ain't gonna let myself slip on that one.
SPEAKER_10I was like, you know what, I'm gonna be a little truthful. I actually wasn't. No doubt, no doubt.
SPEAKER_11But I was raised here. Gainesville's a stone's throw. I mean, shoot. Yeah, I mean it's probably it's practically in the swamp.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, I it was actually I lived uh in Brantford. Wait, you a Gagers fan? Yeah. You said what?
SPEAKER_09You Gagers fan, though? Uh I actually am not a sports fan. Yeah. You know what? That's actually cooler though, because you know as long as you're not a Gagers fan, we're cool to be. My stepmom was a Seminole fan growing up. All right, man. She's good people. Good people, dog.
SPEAKER_11No doubt, no doubt. Um, we we obviously we're we're kind of big sports fans, but you know, teach his own. It's not for everybody. But uh another thing that's not for everybody is uh one of our favorite things in life, and that's skateboarding. Oh yeah. So uh we're gonna go ahead and get these questions out of the way because we got a lot of stuff
Early Skate Life And Kona Roots
SPEAKER_11to talk about. But uh, first off, like uh how old are you now, and how old were you when you uh first started skating?
SPEAKER_08So I am 27 now. Um I first started skating 20 years ago. I was seven years old, got my first board was a toy machine, which is why I hold toy machine to my heart so dearly. And uh that's actually where Billy and my rap name comes from, is from Billy Marks. Oh yeah, that's what's up. But he's family now, so uh do you know Billy?
SPEAKER_09Yeah, do you really? Yeah, swear to God. We can FaceTime him right now. Pull him up, pull him up. That's my boy, that's my boy. Pull Billy up and put him on the pod, dog. No, that's cool. We won't bother him right now. That's that's yeah, we'll do it at the end, but we'll do it at the end.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, that's I'll go ahead and text them too, give him a heads up.
SPEAKER_10Hell yeah, that's okay. I see uh you got Billy Winfield sticks with the toy machine.
SPEAKER_08I only had a couple in the car. That's cool.
SPEAKER_10I'll bring some more next time.
SPEAKER_11Yeah, actually, I got a couple for you as well. This is my homeboy. He's uh Duval TV. Oh, yeah, that's fine. And that's my boy.
SPEAKER_08But um that's a collab I did with them. The official, unofficial, as Billy Marks.
SPEAKER_09I usually got like South Park stickers that I hand out to people and stuff. I just I forgot to steal some from my daughter.
SPEAKER_11So uh are you regular or goofy footed? I'm regular. Hell yeah. Right foot uh left foot forward. If you uh had a preference, uh front side or backside?
SPEAKER_08Uh it depends. So skating ledges, backside. Okay. Skating like uh like backside flips on flat, I love doing that. But uh yeah, if we jumping down stairs, nah, I gotta do front side. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_09Yeah, yeah, yeah. I like the way you broke it down though, man.
SPEAKER_11Yeah, no, every everybody seems to have that kind of preference. Like me, it was like, especially if you just talk about like doing a gap, if it was far, I had to go front side because it was like stretching and watching my you know, my front, like seeing it the whole time. If it was high front side, if it was high, I was always backside because I don't know why. It was like I could center myself and absorb more impact going backside.
SPEAKER_08No, I get that, and especially if you fall, you could catch yourself immediately.
SPEAKER_11You know what I mean? So, uh, where where'd you uh grow up skating for the most part? What side of town here? I mean, what skate park? Kona? Hell yes.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, so my dad, uh my dad skates. And um Hell yes. Shout out to Pops. Yeah, shout out Pops.
SPEAKER_06Pops dir! He got me Papa Winfields?
SPEAKER_08Yeah, Papa Winfield. No, uh, he he got me skating. It was him and my older brother, and then my other brother, Matt, BMX's. So uh Mark and Mark and Mark Jr. is my my dad, my brother. And uh fucking they my dad actually is the only one who skates regular. And then ironically, my dad got brown eyes, and I'm the only one who got brown eyes. You said you skate regular. Yeah, everyone else skate goofy in my family. Oh, but so you two are the only two right now. And then I'm the only one with brown eyes, my dad got brown eyes. Oh, there you go. All right, little weird, little weird tick. But uh Yeah, for sure. So he he got me a board at like seven, I got my older brother's board. And then uh rightfully so, the hand-me-down.
SPEAKER_11Yeah, the hand me down. See if you're gonna be into it before we drop a bit when it happened.
SPEAKER_08Because dude, no cap. When I was little uh at Kona, dude, I'd I'd get like an hour in, and then I was bored. I was like, dad, you know, let's go home. You know what I mean? And uh I felt like I felt like shit afterwards, like growing up and then learning how to skate, and then be like, damn, I was pulling them away from the skate park early. Like, no, they they was trying to send it. Yep, yeah. Send it. Ended up uh yeah, started started taking skateboarding like heavy, like you know, doing tricks at 13. Cool, cool.
SPEAKER_11So it's been about uh let's say like 14 years. Yep, that's was I was uh about 14 when I when I first started really like skateboarding and stuff like that. Honestly, got tray flips before various.
SPEAKER_10Really? Yeah, and then it was funny. I had two uh two. Could you three shove? Yeah, no, no, actually I couldn't. Not then.
SPEAKER_09Yeah, I never learned I never learned varials. I learned three flips before I learned various.
SPEAKER_08Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_09Because there's everybody burials, but they couldn't do kickflips, but I kick flip.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, so I actually had a homie, uh Jay and Cole, right? They were twins. Uh they were like childhood homies, and uh we all skated together and whatnot. I started going for tray flips like immediately after kickflips, because you know, trying varials, it would just spin it. No, not not back then. So uh my homie Jay at the time was doing variables and he was getting good at them, and he was like, Man, you know, you you can't even various. Why you going for the tray flip? Oh, yeah. Got it first try. Literally did not, I was like, let me just give this a shot. Got it first try. Bro, he was pissed. He was like, What? Because like immediately had the bitches on log after you know trying the tray flip. You put too much power in it, you put a little less power in it for the various, started nailing it. Now I'm like, variables are fucking hard. Trying not to put that power in it.
SPEAKER_09Like, it was just hanging on by toenails literally.
SPEAKER_11So if you had a choice, uh switch or faking.
SPEAKER_08Ooh, I'm really good at switch, so that's but I love there's no better feeling than doing a very good uh faky flip. Hell yeah. Like a high one, you know what I mean? That bitch just magnets up to your feet type shit.
SPEAKER_09I feel I feel the same way, but with fakie pop shovels. Yeah, like just I overspin them. I don't I don't do pop shovels and shit, but fakey pop shovels are always just feel that though. Something about it. Front shoves. Front shoves are fun. Yeah, yeah. But regular pop shovels. Yeah, front shoves because they just come up and smack your foot.
SPEAKER_11I've always had pop shovels like really like pretty pretty good. I mean, I just always like I pop them, they they come up. I got to have amplitude with them. I used to have a pretty nasty pop shove at tail grab, like over you know, like the corner of the club. My brother loves doing those. Bro, honestly, the old UNF uh Jeff Fritz. Dude, I forgot about UNF. Bro, I used to because it was a steep bank, so you'd kind of come down from that six-footer and you'd hit it, and it would pop you like straight up. But when you landed, you'd get a little bit of speed because it was like it just felt so fun.
SPEAKER_09Oh man, like I love that hip, dude. That shit was fun as fuck.
SPEAKER_08Dude, I miss Kona's old hip. Yeah. The one next to the old DC ledge? The one next to the old ledge, right? Yeah, so uh actually like the center. Yeah, the one in the middle. Yeah, yeah, dude. And then when they had them giant ass ramps up, oh my god. The Metal Town, dude. Yeah.
SPEAKER_11See, I I miss it when they had like opposite of the hip was like the wall ride where you had the two six-foot quarters and the bank to the wall. Yeah. But like the first rendition, that wall ride was so much fun. Bringing back memory. I used to come up, do a wall ride to fake you on the bank, and then do a full cab over the hip. It was like one of my favorite little fucking runs. My favorite.
SPEAKER_08My favorite era of Kona was I'd have to say, like Wild in the Parks. Yeah, you know what I mean? That was my year, dude. Yeah, they had that fucking grass gap that they had put in, the gator. Oh my god, the the free flow tour. They had that little gate egg kicker. Dude, that little kicker would send it.
SPEAKER_09Dude, it was little, but it fucking, yeah, it blasted you. Dude, you'd blast off that shit. Yeah.
SPEAKER_11Yeah, it's especially those little kicker ramps. If there's a little bit of tranage, you can it's got the right length to that tranin.
SPEAKER_09Jamal Campbell, hard foot the fuck out of that thing. So nasty, dude. Yeah, dude. So nasty. Good times.
SPEAKER_11Yeah, it's like that little kicker out in my driveway back there. That thing fucking will send you.
SPEAKER_08I'm a board and the whip. That thing will fucking send you. I literally turned around to grab my board because something told me to. Let me let me make sure I can't.
SPEAKER_09He's got some shit out there.
Trick Talk And Style Preferences
SPEAKER_09I I can't I can't skate anymore these days. Uh I had a bone disease and whatnot. You know what I'm saying? Damn. Got got God and whatnot, you know. So got my God. I went too horde and shit, so God was like, you know, you gotta chill out. So that's just you know.
SPEAKER_11No, you did too many hard flip, late flips. Yeah, well, hey, that's a banger right there. He said, sit down. Yeah.
SPEAKER_09That's somebody else who didn't, dude. Yeah, man. You know, I'd do my thing, but still, regardless. But yeah, man, he's got a spot out there, dog. And you'd be you'd be baffled by be like, wait, I can hit this. Oh damn, yeah. No, I'm excited.
SPEAKER_08It's been like it's it's got it's got a couple little loop-de-loops out there, dog. Actually, no, no cap. I just I did just skate in Denver. Nice. Uh fucking Did you go to the three or three park or three or three shop? No, we went to the new Denver park. They just a team pan or a Denver? So actually, I'm not sure. Spawn Ranch. It's uh they just call it D park out there. But it's funny because my homie aunt really wasn't wanting to go. He was like, man, it's all steep and whatnot. But uh Zion Wright's little brother. Um, he was out there, so we were like, you know, let's go skate with them. And uh Man, I remember skating with Zion and like Jamie Floyd and shit back when they were.
SPEAKER_09Oh yeah, dude. Man, I got a funny story. Fucking 2012, Wild Park, Wild the Park shit. Invoids were fucking still just like the like the 13th and 16th division.
SPEAKER_08Devin Bagnoli was there too. Yep, yeah. I remember Devin Bagnoli was doing airwalks, that whole contest in theater.
SPEAKER_09One footers and front boards, dude. Yeah. And McWinese, that's what JB Floyd's doing. Did he lip slide the four block, didn't he? No, no, no, no. He didn't lip slide the four-block. He only knew what the four block and back when easy.
SPEAKER_11What high school did you go to?
SPEAKER_09Baldwin.
SPEAKER_08Oh, word. So you were living out there for a little bit. On Normandy. Uh I grew up on Normandy. Nice. That's what's up. And then fuck it, moved to 103rd when I moved out. She. You know, cheap, cheap, cheap. And then I was like, oh, this is why. We in the ghetto.
SPEAKER_11Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, once uh Tim McQuana turns into 103. Oh my god, yeah. That's where the hood starts.
SPEAKER_08There was it was a funny thing. My uh my girl got lost one day because she's not good with GPS's.
SPEAKER_11I don't think any woman is. No disrespect. No disrespect.
SPEAKER_08GPSs just don't work for her. She had a Tom Tom.
SPEAKER_09They're not they're not putting the guarantee on it, but the doctor's guaranteeing this. None of you women know how to read a goddamn GPS. I'm sorry.
SPEAKER_08The the TomTom literally went out on her. Like, just stopped working. It was TomTom did? Yeah, it was TomTom day. Just stopped working on her. So she was like, damn, she called me and she was like, babe, I don't know where I'm at. She's like, I took the turn, you know, when she got off uh was uh the highway and she was supposed to go left, she went right. So she called me, she's like, I'm in, I'm in the hood, babe. Like, yeah, I'm on Tim Laquanna. I said, How the hell do you get to Tim Laquana? I was like, hold on. I pulled up my GPS and like I was like, all right, tell me like a significant location. I literally had to like bring her home from looking at my GPS and being like, okay, you're gonna want to turn around, you know, at the good tires, fucking go straight. Basically, read a map to her. Straight up, banned it. That's how it was. I was proud of myself, though. I was proud of myself. I was proud of her for understanding it too, because I was like, damn, man, how else am I gonna get her home?
SPEAKER_09Like, that's what my nanny used to do is work for AAA and fucking just map shit out for people. Like, highlight their trips and shit, dude. Just like yeah, I remember MapQuest before GPS.
SPEAKER_08Dude, my dad would print out so many fucking things because we would like try to escape.
SPEAKER_11Yeah.
Injuries And Skating With Age
SPEAKER_10No, um, if you had to pick uh kickflip or heel flip. Ooh, kickflip.
SPEAKER_08I grew up on heel flips though. I learned heel flips before kickflips, but then whenever I got kickflips, I lost heel flips. Even to this day, like I could do switch heels almost, I won't say almost every try, but uh a good seven out of ten tries, I can get them. You know what I mean? But uh regular heel flips, I could get like probably three out of ten.
SPEAKER_11Varial heels though, various heels I could do all day. I'm not I don't have them consistent at all anymore. I don't have any flip tricks anymore. But yeah, no, he's because I had a uh congenitive bone issue. I broke my leg really bad, and I was in a cast so long that my that my tarsal bones in my ankle fuse together.
SPEAKER_09I had I had a disease. I didn't have a congenitive bone issue. I had a disease. Yes, we know.
SPEAKER_11So one upper. No, but so much so all my little tarsal bones in my ankle that allow your ankle to roll and like that flicking motion that you need to kick flip and tray flip and shit, um, they all fused into a ball. So after I got the cast off, I was having crazy ankle pain. It was swelling. Even if I just walked around for a period of time and I finally went to a specialist, and you know, after MRI and everything, they're like, Yeah, you're b- So they had to go in and cut the the ball of bone out, and they basically had to like put these little pins in. So on my front foot, I lost the ability to like roll my foot and flick out. I can like this left foot, I can go up and down, that's as far out as I can. Oh but I can go in, but I can't I can't go out, so I can't flick it all. So I could I after that it was only heel flips and dangerous, heel flips and shove it. So it was like literally, yeah. Man, I was never good at switch. I could do some switch tranny tricks, but like on flat ground I had like switch olives and switch front 180s. That was about it.
SPEAKER_08Growing up on Normandy, there was nothing to skate, you know what I mean? So like just yeah, flat ground all day.
SPEAKER_09And uh I grew up skating with Jake Sykes and shit.
SPEAKER_08Oh, yeah, that's that's the homie. Yeah, that's yeah, that's my boy. That's actually who I got these shoes from. Oh, really? Big shout out to Jake, man. Big shout out. I love Jake.
SPEAKER_09Hey, Jake's actually who introduced me to Jolly. Hey, Jake, your fam, hit me up, bro. We're shouting you out right now. Hit me up, Jake. But yeah, no.
SPEAKER_11I've been trying to get Jake on here, but he's always like, oh, Paul, man, what are we gonna talk about forever? It's like we're gonna roll a J and we're just gonna fucking chat, my dude. Yeah, that's how it works. People are a little apprehensive at first because they don't know the vibe, and you know, people are like, oh, I don't want to say something, it sounds stupid. I'm like, man, I am stupid. I don't like it.
SPEAKER_08I can't lie. I've done I've done a few interviews, but this is my first podcast. Nice, hell yeah.
SPEAKER_11Fucking that's what's up.
SPEAKER_08I'm happiest in home, too. This yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_09Yeah, as Paul was explaining, like, people don't understand, it's like, yo, dog, you're just sitting down with the booze doing boy things, yeah. Then that's it. It's guy talk. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_11Yeah, it's like trying to keep it organic and chill and fucking not try to be nothing that we're we're not, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_09Yeah, no, exactly. Not to be just guys with locker room talk, this is guy talk, authentic, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_11Exactly. Because I listen to a lot of talk radio and and podcasts as well, and and in my opinion, all you know, talk radio is very informative, but all the best podcasts are entertaining. You got jokes, you got fucking people, you know, something comes up and then you've got an organic side story that comes off, you know. It's like nobody always wants to sit and hear somebody get drilled like 20 questions in a real dry format. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_08Yeah, all right, all right, I got a joke
Jokes Offense And Taking A Laugh
SPEAKER_08for you. Uh what's the difference between a guitar and a fish? I don't know. What is the difference between a guitar and a fish? You can tune a guitar, but you can't tune a fish.
SPEAKER_10Oh love it.
SPEAKER_08I've been telling that since I was like seven.
SPEAKER_11Oh man, I I heard uh a pretty funny one that was a little controversial. It was like uh oh, why this is here you go. Why did a uh why did the trans man not eat meat? Why? Because it was a herb before.
SPEAKER_08I did hear that one. I did hear that one. Uh that shit washing but love. I seen another one, it was like, uh, I don't want to say this wrong, so especially a little controversy.
SPEAKER_09I don't gotta cook one liners, dog, I just got like my like shit. Like I like I do stand-up comedy and shit. So like I just I I have my I don't have one liners, so it was like, what did genders have?
SPEAKER_08Oh my god, what what what was it? It was like uh back in the day, genders were like the twin towers or something like there was only two. Now it's a touchy subject. I was like, hell no.
SPEAKER_09Damn, that's kind of gonna be.
SPEAKER_11I love the offensive jokes. I love the offensive jokes.
SPEAKER_08Hey man, if you can't be offended, it's just part of living.
SPEAKER_11So one of uh my wife's clients, he's a stand-up comic and he does like a lot of like resorts. He's always in the Bahamas at like Atlantis and stuff. He's one of like the features. But uh, we went and saw him here when he was at the comedy zone, and I got a bumper sticker from him that says, Welcome to America, where uh the land of the free, where your right to be offended doesn't outweigh my right to offend you. And I was like, Yes, and that's what all these people forget, bro. They forget that just because you're offended and make it illegal.
SPEAKER_08Like Yeah, no, I feel that I feel that. And it's definitely I feel like just humans now are uh I don't want to say too sensitive, but with what social media you know being at the fingertips 247, everyone has entitled. Everyone's entitled now, everyone has an opinion, and it's like I Support happiness. You know what I mean? So like fucking, if it makes you happy, it makes you happy. Same. But at the same time, you gotta learn how to take a joke. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, you should be able to do that.
SPEAKER_11And you you just gotta accept that some people got darker humor, you know what I mean? So it's like And even aside from humor, we're all different. We all have different opinions. And people's different religious views might not align with your personal beliefs or your lifestyle. But if they're not infringing on your freedoms or treating you hateful way, they have the right to believe whatever they want to believe. You can't force everybody to believe something when there's it's the journey of life.
SPEAKER_10Exactly. We here to We can coexist. Yeah. But we don't we're not all gonna be on the same page.
SPEAKER_08Exactly. That J. Cole said it best. They act like two legends can't coexist. Right. You know what I mean? So like I I definitely uh I definitely understand that.
SPEAKER_11So I think um back to the skate questions, I think you kind of pretty much already answered this. If you had a choice, street, park, or both.
SPEAKER_08I love skating mini ramps. Okay, like l you know, spot the spine ackona was like the perfect size back in the day, you know what I mean? Just fun to just do a bunch of tricks. Actually, my favorite itty bitty mini ramp, y'all about to crack up.
SPEAKER_10Treaty. Oh, the little baby bowl. Yeah, the little baby the baby, the baby bowl.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, dude, I've done like fucking uh like a tray flip 50-50, you know, go back in. It's just you could do a lot because it's so little. So it's like I'll be feeling like a pro on that, but then you put me on a big one, I'm like, ah, I'm a little nervous on trying this.
SPEAKER_11I'm 38 years old. I don't heal the way I used to. I ain't got health insurance. I do, but that doesn't pay for me being out of work for too long. You know what I'm saying? Like that that only carry you so long.
SPEAKER_09Straight up.
SPEAKER_11I love I love skating that little thing when I do go down there, just because, like you said, I mean, a lot of tricks that I used to do that I don't really do anymore. It's just like you're like, it's just fun.
SPEAKER_09So easy. Yeah, exactly. Stuff like learn how to cruise around it, just going back side switch and doing the same thing, front side switch, and then just like come up and just go 50-50. Boom. And uh coming front side switch.
SPEAKER_11And it's fun because my oldest daughter can skate that one too, like pretty good. Like she'll do a back 50, rock to fakies, like faky tail tap, stuff like that. So it's like, I'm actually good on that too for right now. Got to yeah, no, but so that's always fun because it's like, all right, we actually get a daddy-daughter session.
SPEAKER_08Dude, it's so funny you say that because like I have I was actually just talking about this to my girl because I seen a video on TikTok. It was like a dad had his son on his back and then had like one of them little motor skateboards, had his daughter between his legs, and he was carrying the groceries. Yeah, I have so many memories of my dad doing that with like me, my little sister, you know what I mean? He'd just fucking take us down like the snake run back on Kono. Oh my god, being little in between, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_09I'm like flying, I'm like, what the fuck? Yeah, dude, you're holding up by fucking good memories. Holding on by short pockets and shit.
SPEAKER_08Papa, papa. Yeah, I'd be like that. Now I remember the first time I rode a motorcycle with him, and I took my hand, bro. We was literally on the street, and I seen one of my friends, and the first thing my dad tells me is, don't take your hands off me. First thing I did was wave. Tell me why, bro. He stopped, pulled back up to the house. He was like, uh-uh. You just lost the privilege, you know, type of shit. Like, I'm not about to take you if you're taking your hands off.
SPEAKER_11That's unsafe. Yeah, I'm trying to pull it up here, see if it'll pull up. My daughter, I'm pretty sure she sent me that exact video, literally, like today.
SPEAKER_03Where was that?
SPEAKER_08Also on skateboard and shit, like you said, street or both. I love skating step-ups too.
SPEAKER_09Those are the funny shit.
SPEAKER_08Dude, step ups, the treaty step-up is massive, but that shit's fun. No, no, no.
SPEAKER_09You're talking about just a step-up, not the euro gap. Yeah, okay. I like euro gaps. You don't understand? Yeah. No, the euro gap is the one where the manual pad is where you're like like you know, like when you go, like when you're like you're going down and going down, and then you hit the step-up, yeah. The euro gap's on the other side. Oh like, you know, like from that big like ride up, yeah, where it like just it's flat and then another little bank, that's that's that's the euro gap, that big step up.
SPEAKER_11That's that's the big one, yeah.
SPEAKER_09Yeah, no, it's uh like but no that like their their step up already is their step-up is already really big. Yeah, it's legit. Man, uh the hardest trick I ever fucking tried to ever do up that thing was another late flip dog. It was the scariest shit. Yeah, I bet it's a scary because like I dude, I mean I already did hard flip late flip, tray flip, late flip.
SPEAKER_11Like, all all my late flips in general are just crazy to me. Yeah, yeah, they're crazy to me too. I was never super technical flip tricker. Like, I could do like a bunch of manuals and it's like no nose manuals regularly, but I was never like the concept of that when I started seeing guys doing them, I was like, This is fucking crazy. Like Chris Kendall used to do them all time back. Y'all know Dylan Wynn?
SPEAKER_08Dylan Win. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, Dylan Wynn used to have the uh the late flips on deck. Oh yeah, no, yeah, no. I remember Dylan Wynne. Yeah, fucking he had the late flips on deck. He had like every late flip fucking this dude I just played in skate out in Denver, David. Shout out David, man, he's good as fuck. Hell yeah. Bro did a fucking switch, I think it was a switch late flip, and then uh, or like backfoot flip, and then he did it in Ollie, and I was like, bro, there's no way I'm about to get this. Yeah, dude. Of course I didn't.
SPEAKER_09I mean, honestly, I can tell I can tell you the secret to it. I won't do I won't do it on air. Yeah, no, definitely go have it. Send me that golden ticket afterwards. No, no, I'll I'll tell I'll tell you the second. So I'm gonna go back and get him. I'll tell you the secret to him, and you'll be like, no, you're fucking lying, dude.
SPEAKER_11There ain't no way in your so let me ask you this uh favorite skater growing up. Billy Marks. Hell yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_08Hell yeah. And Stevie Williams. Oh yeah, yeah, DGK fucking DGK all day.
SPEAKER_09Dude, Billy was always like one of the funnest skaters to watch as a kid, dude. Dude, his fucking good and evil part, oh my god. Dude, this shit was so fucking brutal.
SPEAKER_08Dude, his fucking brutal. He's actually the reason how I got uh fucking feeble kick flip out. Oh, so I was trying that trick for like a year and just couldn't get it. And then SLS happened, you know what I mean? That was the first time me and him had met.
Name Origin And Billy Marks Connection
SPEAKER_08Alright, so first off, I'll explain where Billy Winfield comes from. Billy is in Billy Marks, my favorite skateboarder.
SPEAKER_10I was about to say, you're telling me your name isn't Sir William Winfield? Yeah, my real name is Sam.
SPEAKER_08Hell yeah.
SPEAKER_09All right, Samuel. Yes, Samuel Myers. No. That's the government.
SPEAKER_08No, but uh ended up fucking um yeah, it's Billy as in Billy Marks, and then uh Winfield as in Jules Winfield, the role Samuel Jackson played in Pulp Fiction. Yeah. You know what I mean? So fucking very tight. I was like 11th grade when I made that because like my. You're not gonna get out of the Wu-Tang name generator. No, my first it's funny. I just did one of that. I can't remember what it was like uh like a fickle spear or some shit like that. And I was like, what? It's like a bird. But uh that's hilarious. Yeah, love Wu-Tang too. But uh fucking, so I hit up Billy Marks on Instagram, and I was like, yo, dude, you're a huge inspiration, like fucking love you. And he hit me back and was like, yo, dude, it's nice to meet like genuine people out there, follow me immediately. And then ever since we just kept in contact. Hell yeah. So like SLS came to Jax. I was like one of the first people to know. You know what I mean? So he hit me up, he was like, bro, got your tickets, like come out, have fun. Like, I'm trying to meet you. That actually had uh a show that night with Xavier Wolf at Underbelly, and like I get off stage, and that's when like Billy Marks and Big Cat just walked up. Hell yeah. And that was how I met Big Cat as well. So I'm like tripping, you know what I mean? I'm like, what? And then you know Billy starts talking, he's like, Man, you know, Mike Moe was supposed to come, but he was he was getting a little sick, you know what I mean? Whatnot? I was like, what? Like he just started throwing all these names out. I'm like, all these are like my childhood legends, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. So like you show them how we do it down at Duval? Oh, I showed me. 904. Uh, I actually did, bro. Billy Marks asked me to uh perform at the after party. Fuck yeah. So the after party was at Myth. First off, Myth is a terrible venue for like performance-wise. Like it's a it's a club, you know what I mean? Yeah, I've never really done that. Tell me more, man. Tell me more. Yeah. So this was actually a funny night, and it's like, it's one of those things where it takes a lot to be an artist, but impressions, bro, crazy impressions will help people remember you, right? You know what I mean? Sure, for sure. So I'm like at the after party, getting my mic set up. I walk up. So this was Saturday and Sunday was SLS. So Saturday night was the wolf show. And uh that's whenever like Billy and Big Cat came out. Fucking uh the next night was the finals, and then the after party was at Myth. So uh he was like, yo, dude, like you should come perform tonight. You know what I mean? Like, I'm just throwing the idea. I'll talk to uh can't remember his name. It was like one of the dudes hosting, you know what I mean, who's like in charge of like the funds and whatnot. And uh they agreed to it. So I ended up pulling up with my wireless mic. Did the did the did they pay you? Uh no, I I did it for free. And I thought about it after because he was like, Yeah, this the dude who writes the checks for Monster. And I was like, damn, I probably could have got a bag out of this.
SPEAKER_11Probably could have. You know what I mean? But at the same time, for an up-and-coming artist, an opportunity to perform at an after party like that afterwards. In front of all my favorite pros, I'm like you're like, we are doing this for the fucking story.
SPEAKER_08So I mean, I'm like, fuck it. I'm in it. Yeah, you know what I mean? So I pull up I pull up note to self, note to other artists. If this happens to you and you pull up, perform like two to three songs, because it's an after party. They ready to party, you know what I mean? Yeah, I put on like a whole 20-minute set, you know what I mean? And then like, bro, it was like that's half my goddamn mixtape. Bro, it was like half the building ended up going outside because like the DJ was also out there, you know what I mean? And they're you know, trying to turn up, they're not there for a show, you know what I mean? Right, right, right. But that impression, it it actually helped me out a lot, you know what I mean? Because like, even if in the moment they was not feeling it, they remembered me. So like pulling up to the second uh after party, like on the second time they came, much different, like uh vibe, yeah, yeah. A lot of respect, you know what I mean? Like it was it was uh it was very uh friendly, you know what I mean? Like heartwarming type shit. Hell yeah. So like uh ended up um fucking it was like I think Jamie Foy stayed in there, Zion Wright stayed in there, and like uh Tori Puble stayed in there. Cause when I walked up to Tori Puble, he recognized me. Big cat threw me on his story from the wolf show, and Tori Puble recognized me off that. So as soon as I walked up, he was like, Hey, I know you are, and I was like, I look at my boys, I'm like, I know you too, motherfucker. Because like Perkins skate, he's one of the little homies, and uh my homie Doug was there too, and I was like, bro, fucking Tori Puble just said he recognized me. Like, you know, this is this is wild childhood, you know, going up. So the second time I came to the after party ended up fucking, as soon as I walk in, Zion Rice say what up. Uh or no, it was Deshaun Jordan said what up. Um fucking I see P Rod walking over there, fucking Nigel Houston and shit. Hell yeah. And then uh Billy is like, you know, let me take you upstairs to the boys because it was like Big Cat and all them want to say what up. And uh so I'm passing through, and that's whenever I seen fucking uh God, of course all the names are gonna slip me now. Oh bro, you're gonna fucking Kelly Hart. Kelly Hart walks up, and I didn't recognize him. I knew Kelly Hart from like the name from his podcast, you know what I mean? Like I'd never really seen his face, I'd only seen clips of him.
SPEAKER_09Trick of the year, dude. Yeah, you know what I mean. Three foot figgy manual on courthouse, talking about you feel me.
SPEAKER_08So I'm like, I'm only seeing clips, I'm not recognizing his face, and I need glasses anyway. So like him walking in.
SPEAKER_09He's got a fucking face, dude. If you see his face one time, you cannot forget that fucking.
SPEAKER_08Well shit, now no. So like he walked up and he was like, What up, Billy number two? And I was like, Billy number two. So that's you already had a nickname in the crew. That was a good thing. So he was like, my dog Billy two times. Yeah, he said, You doing good, man. Life treating you well. I was like, Yeah, man, and fucking, you know, same shit, like just trying to stay active and whatnot. He was like, bro, we're gonna have to get up later. Walks away. I look at Billy Marks, I was like, Who was that? He said, Kelly Hart. And I literally was like, that was Kelly Hart, like damn, bro.
SPEAKER_09Like, that's wild.
SPEAKER_08Like, so like we walk past the corner and then like we go up to stairs, and uh, I'm like, what brewery was this at? Uh, this is actually the night I met Curtis Williams, too, from Two Nine. I don't know if y'all heard of uh Two Nine, they're a rap group from uh Atlanta. Oh yeah. And uh they're legendary out there type shit. Like they they were, you know, the founder. Not I won't say the founders, but they they definitely had a lot of influence during like that young thug era of like coming up and whatnot. And uh so fucking Curtis was there. We was all just kicking it and uh fucking go upstairs, and then Tori Pubbo, as soon as I walked up, he was like the Jacksonville legend himself. And I literally damn near shit a brick when he said that. I was like, what?
SPEAKER_09Yo, what like I was like, bro, you a legend. You know what I mean? Hey hey fellas, if y'all excuse me, I'm gonna go to the bathroom and cry for a little bit, but I'll be right back.
SPEAKER_08Literally, so like I actually got him to smoke that night, and it was like his first time. Tor don't smoke, he hasn't in a minute. I think I don't know how long they said, but it was to the point where like Jamie Foy looked up and he was like, Tor, are you smoking? And he was like, Yeah, and he looked up, he said, Is that a backwood? He was like, Yeah, he was like, Who rolled that? And then I was like, I, you know, I peeked my head and I was like, yo, that was me. He was like, I see you, and whatnot. I was like, You're trying to hit it? He was like, nah, man, I don't smoke woods, but like I'm gonna smoke my spliff. I was just like, damn, man. Like, he just complimented my wood, like, I don't know. It was it was a good night. Fucking uh legend. Jeff Rowley was there.
SPEAKER_09Hell yeah, and like bro, got the classics on right now.
SPEAKER_08Classic, bro. I'm literally like that's one of my older brother's favorite skateboarders. Oh yeah. So like I and my brother had just moved to Virginia, so he couldn't come. You know what I mean? And uh, I was like, bro, Mark about to be so jealous whenever he hears about this. And sure enough, he was he bro, he's still to this day, he's like, Man, I can't believe you party with all them. Like, that's crazy. Oh, dude, did you take a picture and send it to him, dude? Uh actually did. I took a picture with Tori Pubell because that was a high pass moment, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_09And then uh man, I'm cold-blooded, bro. I would have done that shit to my brother in an instant, dude. In an instant three o'clock in the morning. I don't know, you're waking up, dude. Fuck you, dude. You feel me?
SPEAKER_08And he don't got an iPhone though, so I couldn't even FaceTime him.
SPEAKER_09Oh, damn.
SPEAKER_08I'm like, bro, what?
SPEAKER_09Some people's goddamn children, dude. Some people's children.
SPEAKER_08You feel me? And uh bro, I looked at Yuto Horigami was there that night. Oh shit. Drunk as fuck. So I'm like, I walked up in the house. Literally, bro, I did not know he he really don't speak English like that.
SPEAKER_09So like that motherfucker fluid is fucking Spanish though, dude.
SPEAKER_08Bro, I I just hang, I like pulled up a bag of weed, you know what I mean? I'm like, trying to smoke? And he was like, no, take a shot. So I'm like, all right, you know, that's whenever they brought out like all the uh the like fucking tequila shots. I put that on my uh Instagram for that night. That shit was legendary, bro. Fun ass night, fun ass night.
SPEAKER_11That's what's up. So let me ask you, when did you uh get into music?
How Music Started In His Family
SPEAKER_11Like, when did you start? Okay, well, it's kind of like a two-stage, I guess, question, if you will. Have you always listened to like all kind of sorts of music? So you like mainly hip hop?
SPEAKER_08I grew up on uh like from so my dad's a drummer. Oh and uh he he's always been in a band my whole life.
SPEAKER_11What does your dad not do, dude? Right? You do got the fucking coolest dad out here.
SPEAKER_08No cap, bro. My dad was in the airport, too.
SPEAKER_09That's what you get, dude. God damn.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, so funny thing now, bro. All right.
SPEAKER_11I Kristen's salty of anybody that has a dad because he doesn't.
SPEAKER_06I couldn't even get a dadbeat dad.
SPEAKER_11I had to know dad.
SPEAKER_08Lately now? I just got my dad and my stepmom to try mushrooms.
SPEAKER_11Bro, I was just talking with my parents about that shit because my dad's been having anxiety. He's like getting older and shit. And I'm like, bro, I was like, let me make some mushroom tea. Oh, we'll go sit on the beat. Literally what I said. I was like, I'll go sit on the fucking beach with you. And let's go. Mom will be the DG. We will be fucking cool. Like, let's go figure this shit out. I was like, you will be. But they don't know.
SPEAKER_08I'm like, mushrooms don't show up in drug cards.
SPEAKER_11I just weren't trying to tell him, but he's so like his whole life he just met myself. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's got his his weed card. Oh, that's fire. You know, but he's wholesome though.
SPEAKER_08My dad doesn't smoke that often. Uh he smokes a couple times with me. He gets way too paranoid. Because like I said, he was in the military for like 25 years and uh was a uh he gets hired and starts giving out governor secrets he's gonna be talking about.
SPEAKER_09He's like, let me tell you about the aliens. No, I'm not gonna count.
SPEAKER_08S4. He has told me he's he's been to uh Area 51 twice to work on um fucking stealth bombers. Hell yeah. But he that's literally all he said he could say type shit. And I was like, Yeah, stealth bombers.
SPEAKER_11Like uh Well, there's motherfuckers going before Congress right now saying that there's all sorts of shit over there.
SPEAKER_09Yeah, hold on, hold on, hold on. But you know, you know how fucking defining of a term stealth bombers could really mean though? You feel me? I'm like what the fuck was you working on? That's a big that's a big window, dude. That's a really that's a window right there. That's a big ass window, dude. Because it's like, I can't say anything besides I work on stealth bombers. And it's like, alright, dude, so they have what kind of stealth bomber? They have alien equipment over there for sure. Yeah, got those saucers. Like saucers, they they already go invisible and shit, so those are real stealthy. Oh, son of a bitch.
SPEAKER_11So so your dad basically got you into music, being that he was drummer.
SPEAKER_08He was a drummer. My other my older brother's also a drummer. Dude, my whole family's talented. You know what I mean? So like I've always grown up around music. Why'd you bring them, dude? So none of them live here. So like uh my my older brother Matt, he lives around here. Um he just BMXs, and uh Matthew went back. He's more talented in like craftsmanship, so like building shit, like he got that gene.
SPEAKER_11You know what I mean? I'm a carpenter, I respect that.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, so like he was always building BMX ramps growing up, bro. He had like a whole BMX park in the fucking woods. Oh, yeah, over there. Oh, it's a beach and peaches. He was in Yellow Water Yellow Water, Navy Housing back in the day.
SPEAKER_09Oh, that old one back then. Oh, yo, yeah. I seen that shit back in the day when I was a squirt, dude.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, no, so he was built that shit in um fucking. So like growing up around like my dad and Mark them being musically inclined, I was like, damn, I gotta have a musical bone in my body. You know what I mean? So somewhere in there. Come on. Let me figure this out.
SPEAKER_09I'm gonna get a banjo or I'm gonna have to start fucking twisting my tongue. I don't know what I'm doing. You feel me?
SPEAKER_08So I'm like, uh, I got into rap about like Matt used to listen to rap. I was always listening to rock because that's what my dad and my other brother were listening to. They were kind of like who I was like idolizing growing up, you know what I mean? And uh, because I shared a uh a room with Matt, so like me and him was like, you know, fed up with each other type shit.
SPEAKER_03So you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_08Like, but uh I still love my brother.
SPEAKER_09And uh still got shit to talk about my brother when shared a room and type shit.
SPEAKER_08So uh but it was funny because Mark hated rap. Yeah, you know what I mean? And uh Matt loved rap, so anytime Matt would listen to rap, I'd be like, damn man, this shit sound kind of fire, but I can't admit it. You know what I mean? Right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So uh I wouldn't admit it and then fucking.
Old School Hip Hop Influence List
SPEAKER_11What were like the first artists you got into in hip hop?
SPEAKER_08Wu Tang, fucking uh, because I started with the basics. It was like eighth it was eighth grade. I had a book report that I had I was in intensive reading. Yeah. Me being a lyricist in intensive reading.
SPEAKER_09I just That's because you understood words better than anybody else did.
SPEAKER_08ADHD, I can't sit there and read a book, you know what I mean? Like I get through a paragraph and I realize I'm rereading the paragraph again. Yeah, yeah. I'm not even on the second paragraph. I'm like, all right, let me put this down. Like, this shit, my mind isn't catching it, but if my mind catches something, it catches it. You know what I mean? So like it started catching on, and like uh I had a book report and it was like pick five, or like out of the five people, you know, you gotta do a uh a biography on them. And uh Tupac was on the list. So like got into Tupac, and then that led into fucking uh digital underground. Yeah, fucking duh dang. Oh yeah. So like, yeah, I literally like dove in fucking Wu-Tang, NWA, fucking uh KRS1, uh fucking Yeah, I got Knowledge Rain Supreme tattooed right here.
SPEAKER_11No, that's fire. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_08Um uh what's the other group? Uh West Side Connection? Yeah, the other group that Ice Cube had.
SPEAKER_11Yep, yeah, with uh Dub C and then um what's his name? Um I can't remember, but yeah, and uh dude, I got the the cream tattoo.
SPEAKER_09Fox, yeah, cash rules everything for him. Oh yeah. Fucking uh I got I got a Boosie tattoo. I just got into him.
SPEAKER_11I grew up I love Boosie. He does have a Boosie tattoo. That's fire. I grew I grew up listening to everything because my dad and both my mom were like very uh like had a very vast array of musical tastes that they were into. Like my dad has an amazing record collection, like even 45s, it's actually like my inheritance.
SPEAKER_08I got like I it's it's fucking my dad gave me a record of uh Sugar Hill Gang. Hell yeah. Yeah, the rapper's delight. Yeah, fucking.
SPEAKER_09Yeah, my dad's got everything from like on repeat all day long, dog. All day, all goddamn day, dude.
SPEAKER_11He's got he's got everything from just like you know, you're you know, like every Beatles album on vinyl, every every every Led Zeppelin, and they're all original presses when he bought them.
SPEAKER_08That's gas.
SPEAKER_11Yeah, you know what I mean. Like there's a couple of things. Pretty much, yeah. I mean, it's and but then he has like original press Michael Jackson thriller and stuff like that. Cause he they listened to to everything, you know?
SPEAKER_08Yeah, no, no, man.
SPEAKER_11Yeah, yeah, yeah. So uh, so I got but you know. Growing up in the 90s, hip-hop, you know, started to really have the crossover. I remember having a cassette tape that was uh Biggie Smalls and Fucking Love Biggie. Yeah, in Tupac, like a couple of songs of each. I think there was like two Biggie and two Tupac songs on one side. And then I had Naughty by Nature, the uh most of what was their that that album called with uh OPP and shit like that on it. And that was like I remember having that cassette and listening to that on my little sharp fucking boom box that was like a hand-me-down for my dad. Yeah, block it, block. It was like it's like fucking 1994, and I'm like, you know, what an OPP? Like having it.
SPEAKER_09Nobody has been in 10 years, dude.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, no, it was definitely wild, like starting out, because you know what I mean. 13, I this is like 2009. No, that was like 2008. Something like that. 2008, I'll I'm gonna say, I don't know. It back in the day. So like me getting into hip hop then, like, like the old school hip-hop, all the old old heads around me were like, dude, you're late. You know what I mean? But they're also like better late than never. Yeah, yeah,
Mixtapes Growth And Leaving Cringe Behind
SPEAKER_08yeah. And that's where my first mixtape under Billy Winfield came into place. It's called better late than never. I took that bitch down. Nah, I can't cap that bitch is on fucking dat piff floating out there somewhere. And uh why'd you take it down?
SPEAKER_11Just like quality recording and shit like that?
SPEAKER_08No, so one of whenever like I started getting like really serious and like started touring, I was like, alright, what do I want people to go back and find? You know what I mean? And uh that whole album or that whole piece, not this piece of shit, shrewd. That whole mixtape, I probably could listen to it now. It was like whenever you know you go through, they're like, ah, this is old, so it's cringy, but now it's like the appreciation of like, damn, man, I was spitting this, you know what I mean? Like, yeah, I was still talking my shit back then. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. And uh I used to make beats and shit like that. Dude, so I read a book. I I ate a brownie once. I uh I was making beats, but my fucking computer, bro, it was like during Hurricane like Matthew or some shit like this. 2016. Yeah, 2016, 2017, and uh fucking I remember that one.
SPEAKER_11That one that was that flooded all the downtown. That one's like, I was making a beat.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, I was making a beat, and then uh my computer, my computer was like um it had to reset. Cause you know, when you in there for fucking four or five hours and it's raining, you know, you're not doing shit. I'm on this shit. But my my shit got hot and uh fucking so it had to restart. Power went out during restart. Bro, I've got a similar, similar story. It was either a restart or an update. I'm actually pretty sure it was an update, cause now, now that I'm thinking about it, because it's been a minute, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_11Yeah, but after it updates, it's gotta restart.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, so like it was like it got to the point of like 90% uh like restarting or updating, and then it was like in order to complete, gotta restart, restart, and then it would just keep doing that. So like it was stuck in this loop, and I was like, fuck. So that's how I uh my uh fucking desktop
Lost Files And The Pain Of No Backups
SPEAKER_08went down. Damn, so fucking hurricane. I had a uh a hard drive. And I didn't backup any of it.
SPEAKER_11I had a hard drive that had the backups from every beat that I ever made. Because I was audio engineer for a few years, and every band or artist that I recorded, every song I ever worked on.
SPEAKER_09He did a lot of bleak 182 work. Um did a lot of songs, a lot of stuff.
SPEAKER_11A lot, a lot of a lot of really like dope music, and I it got reformatted. Uh I made a mental error and I wasn't paying attention, and I clicked okay, and as soon as I did, I was like, oh crap, and then it was gone.
SPEAKER_08Bro, when you be in there, you'd go numb. You know what I mean? You just click whatever to get it out of the way.
SPEAKER_11So I've got some beats on SoundCloud still, but that's literally all I have left of fucking like 12 years of literally like making beats on a regular basis.
SPEAKER_09And like you gotta understand something, dude. My man was like Jimi Hendrix on the beats, dog. You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_11He was a he was a beat maker, but uh I've thought about it a little bit. Um, you know, every once in a while. It's just I'm so fucking busy, man. It's like hard, it's hard to find the time to sit down and actually dedicate.
SPEAKER_08Adulting sucks.
SPEAKER_11Yeah, yeah, it does. Adulting does suck. And I actually, when I moved, I had to move to Alabama for like a year and a half to mobile.
SPEAKER_09And I literally attracted his idea of how to freestyle perfectly, dog. Go ahead, Paul. Come on, dude. Come on, man. Come on, Paul.
SPEAKER_11No, I just um I just decided I would I'd already been fucking with music and making beats and recording and stuff like that prior, but I was just out there, I was like, I'm not out here to make friends. Um and I literally was like, I'm gonna try to be on that Kanye West shit and make a beat a day. Oh, yeah. And I was just like, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. 808. There was some that were like kind of cool because it was like I I would listen to and I'm like, I couldn't visualize anybody rapping over them, but I could hear this in a car commercial. Yeah. Like I started trying to pitch it to people to like success. It never went anywhere with it, but that's like how deep my catalog was, which is making music fucking day in, day out, taking care of my oldest daughter, and then just making music.
SPEAKER_09See, I've been an old simpic fucking jingle dog.
SPEAKER_08A lot of the homies recently been getting shit placed in like TV shows and movies, you know what I mean? And I'm like, damn man, like what'd I pay like? I gotta do a little yeah, exactly like what I pay like. I gotta pay a little ticket dog. I'd be you know, I watch a lot of content, you know what I mean? Like uh, I love film type shit. Like you know what I mean? So I love movies. Love movies, I love it. You got the old school ones, like back in the day, like the original. Brewster's millions. Where that that movie's got a lesson. You know what I mean? I feel like everybody needs to go watch that. Money ain't gonna buy you happiness. It can it can buy you a lot of shit that'll make you happy.
SPEAKER_09But it you know the happiness comes from the inside dog, it don't come from a dollar bill.
Jacksonville Local Hip Hop Scene Today
SPEAKER_09Nah, exactly, bro.
SPEAKER_11So let me ask you this uh you know, back when I was fucking with music and when I was like in my late teens and to my early twenties, like hip hop hell was a be big thing, and we go down there all the time. I've been out of the local hip-hop scene. What are you what are your thoughts on it? I and and I saw that you just helped shut down 1904 at the last show.
SPEAKER_08We did, man.
SPEAKER_11We did uh and that looked like it was a lineup of uh various artists. I saw Rhythm of Fear played and like.
SPEAKER_08Rhythm of Fear, those are the boys. They got uh voodoo. Yeah, they got on the news and uh that shit was fire. I don't know if we were on the news. This dude came up and was like, let me get a 20-second clip of you all for the news and whatnot. And uh I never seen nothing of it, so I don't know if it made the cut. But uh I did see theirs and I was like, that's fire. But uh yeah, there was a lot of dope artists there that night from like ranging from you know country to like fucking rap, the heavy metal, some like indie, like they really wanted to make it a party and shut it down with like a lot of good energy, and it was man, it was beautiful, it was bittersweet, because like now, like think about it. Like, that's that's the stomping grounds, you know what I mean? So, like a lot of my favorite like memories are from there, you know what I mean? A lot of good times, and uh, but hey, that's wider memories.
SPEAKER_11Yeah, so for like my generation, it was uh it was like the Imperial right there on West Forsyth Street, same with like the Voodoo Lounge. Um they had uh they had uh fuel at coffee shop, which is right there in uh uh five points across from uh the movie theater, and even before the movie theater came back, that was a nightclub called Club Five. Damn. Yeah, that that uh sunray cinema. Yeah, yeah, it was an old movie theater and then it shut down. It was a nightclub. Bro, I've been to like crazy fucking parties in that place. Yeah, that place was a spot back in the day. Yeah, I bet.
SPEAKER_09Respect to goatee. These gray hairs are here for a reason. A lot of wisdom. Yeah, bro.
SPEAKER_11The the the gray bush has uh been around.
SPEAKER_09The gray bush just took a walk around the block and talk.
SPEAKER_11Yeah, but let me ask you this. Uh actually, uh let's see.
SPEAKER_08I was about to say, uh what you asked about the local scene. Yeah. I love the local scene right now. Yeah, there's a lot of good artists out there, and uh it's very inspiring, you know what I mean? It's motivating type shit. Cause like I am a type of artist where like I love seeing other artists come up because you know, if you could do it, I could do it. Now that doesn't mean your formula is gonna work for me. It doesn't mean my formula is gonna work for you. You know what I mean? We all gotta tweak it to our own benefit, but it's uh it's it's inspiring, and a lot of a lot of people hate. And like I used to be a hater back in the day, but it was out of jealousy, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_09Like, you know, but after the motherfucker until he goes broke, dog, I don't give a shit, man. Exactly. Like a motherfucker got a car, why I got a car to look better in my car dog.
SPEAKER_08You feel me? A lot of self-realization, you know, growing up and just you know, growing, you know what I mean? Evolving as a person. So like it made me have a a whole new appreciation for those around me, you know what I mean? And uh, like shout out ASCII. That's my brother. He's out there in Arizona, and uh, bro, he's shutting shit down, you know what I mean? That's that's my brother. So like watching him do this is so inspiring because it it it it and it's nice to have that feeling when it's like you see your homies win and it's like damn, I just won with them. You know what I mean? Like, and it's genuine, it's not no like I'm only around, you know what I mean? Cause like I feel the genuine like uh energy from like homies. Whenever we get a win, it's a win. Yeah, yeah, hold on.
SPEAKER_09One of us makes a wheel, like one of us one of us makes a man like we all make it.
SPEAKER_08We do this thing called feed the chicken. So hold your hand out like this.
SPEAKER_09Yeah. If I eat, you eat. I like that. Feed the chicken. I fucking like that. That's a shit from the spell show. I was like, give me some. Yeah, entire shit.
SPEAKER_08And uh beautiful.
SPEAKER_11That's cool. It sounds like there's a lot of unity. Yeah, no, no, no. You know, for I mean, it's human nature to be envious and and be jealous at times. Yeah. You know, you just gotta kind of overcome that negativity aspecially when you're a teenager. You know what I mean? You're young, you're dumb, you're full of cum. You know what I'm saying? You don't know any better. You don't know any better.
SPEAKER_09This is a cum tumor type shit.
SPEAKER_08You're just you know, raging off of testosterone type shit because you don't know how to handle emotions and whatnot.
SPEAKER_11And if not, and life seems like it's a lot longer than it really is, and then you start putting some years behind you and you realize you're like, oh dog, after 21, I was like, damn, time flying. Yeah, oh, just wait, just wait. Just wait. If if in one day you ever have kids, yeah, then uh you'll really see time fly. Because uh feels like yesterday, both my kids were just born, and I got one entering high school this year.
SPEAKER_09So I got one going to middle school and the other one going into fucking third grade, dog.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, watching my girl's little sister grow up has been like eye-opening too, because I'm like, dude, she's just getting so big and like so smart, you know what I mean? To like seeing the little brains grow. Oh, yeah, bro. Like, what the fuck? Like, you forget that you were a child, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_11And it's like at least for me, too, it helps bring the child back because I'll tell you this, bro. I'm not gonna be able to do that.
SPEAKER_08I'm watching cartoons right now in my head. I'm not even in this. I'd be watching cartoons 24-7.
SPEAKER_11We go to Murray Hill Park and they got that big ass jungle gym. I will climb that motherfucker with my youngest daughter, go all the way to the top, have all these parents looking at me weird. I'm standing up there, no shirt on, towned up, just be like, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_09Paul, the fire department is here.
SPEAKER_08You need to get off the structure, Paul. Paul, please. It's funny you say that though, because we went to somebody get this grown. Was it alligator uh alligator farm? No, uh Alligator Land. Gatorland, yeah, Gatorland. Yeah, we went to Gatorland, they had a uh, it was hot as fuck. Gatorland's fire. I I recommend it. Definitely if you ever in Orlando, go to Gatorland. But uh fucking they got this water park and it's like or a splash pad, you know what I mean? All the kids is running through, bro. It was so hot. Oh yeah. Me, my girl, her mom, her sister. We all fucking bro. It was funny though, because we started it like a little trend. After we got in, bro, all yeah, all the adults started coming in. Bro, I'm I'm in the dryer, right? Because they have these, like, I don't know if you've been to a water park recently. That's how it's the big old dryers. The big old dryers you just step into. It's like five bucks.
SPEAKER_09I don't even know what that means.
SPEAKER_08Bro, it's like a big ass box you step in and then it's like fucking hair dryers all over.
SPEAKER_11It's kind of similar to that. You step in the fucking box and it's just like I've been can it just like being in a giant ass hairdryer. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_08So fucking, you know, I'm like, I seen that. I'm like, all right, you know, I'm gonna hop in the water. I'm in the dryer though, drying off because like we ain't, you know, we wasn't prepared. We was in our clothes type shit. So like fucking this uh this dad walks up with like his four kids and he sees me in there. He said, You hopped in? I said, Hell yeah. He said, Oh, it's over. Took his shirt off, he was getting ready. I was like, Well, we started uh we started a little uh uh trend with the parents getting their inner child out.
SPEAKER_11That's what's up, that's what's up. I love seeing it. Hell yeah. We've been uh
Break And What’s Next
SPEAKER_11chatting for a minute, though. We're gonna take a quick break. We'll be back with you guys in a few minutes. I got a couple of things I want to talk about. Uh Bam Margera going off the rails and this crazy ass rap distract. We gotta listen to it. I listened to it a little bit. It's fucking hilarious.
SPEAKER_08I'm like, I seen it, but I didn't hear it.
SPEAKER_11Oh yeah, so we're gonna we're gonna listen to that, we're gonna talk about it, and then we're gonna uh play stupid games, win stupid prizes. We'll be back with you in a minute.
SPEAKER_07I need to smoke. I need to smoke it back with back up back. I need to mount my lighter and I need to smoke.
Billy Track Feature
SPEAKER_01With my lighter red, I done lost that shit again. I done lost a couple friends, but like this my being the win. It's been a squad, bitch. They like my family or my kid. Get it dumping, folks. With my need is dumping, they say dondo up the stomping play with me. Bet I'm dumping gotta drum. I guess I'm nicked in drum it, bit on me, yo, push is dripping. Yeah, I'm Michael Myers coming, I be ricky happy. Like I don't got shit to lose, funny souls. I got a couple, so I can choose. I don't got shit to prove. Step on my toes, I want the stuffy to get the booze. I like the ass.
SPEAKER_07I need to smoke. Smoking backwards, back to back. I need some mo. Where my lighter at I need to smoke. All these rappers sound like trash, y'all need to go. Where am I lighter at?
SPEAKER_09Alright, so the year was 2003 when it really all started going downhill.
Bam Margera Rap Beef Reaction
SPEAKER_11Alright, guys, it's your boy Paulie, and I'm back with uh my guy Dr. Jones and the one and only Duval's own Billy Winfield.
SPEAKER_09Yes, sir. Be back.
SPEAKER_11Yeah, we uh just talking about the uh the rise and fall of Bam Margera, being that we're all skateboarders, and I definitely know at one point in time I looked up to Bam a lot. Like I loved his skating because he would like rip a street spot, but then you like put him on a mini ramp and he crushed it, and I was like, that's what I want to skate like. Switch back tails, dude. He was good.
SPEAKER_09Yeah, switch back tails. He was the first one I really saw doing switchback tails on everything, dude. Yeah, like switchback tail slides, but also at the same time S-S-B-S-T-S, switch stance backside tail slide. Yeah, I I I still can't, dude. I've known him for so long and I've never been able to say it like that. Yeah, yeah. You know how many times I've tried and I'm just like sure.
SPEAKER_11But yeah, so um for those that don't know. Are we gonna listen to the whole song? We're gonna listen to a good portion of it.
SPEAKER_09Hey, hey, hold on, hey, hey, do we get to say pause? Yes, yes. So we can just we can be good.
SPEAKER_11So so so anyway, uh those that don't know, Bam's been off the rails again. He's been like accusations of you know him smoking crack, being on meth. He's definitely posting a lot of stuff. Being really weird. Bro, like I don't know if you saw that one video of him rapping with that weird Latina chick, and he goes either. I'll try to find out.
SPEAKER_08I was like, let me pull it up on my phone.
SPEAKER_11He's like shirtless in a I think if I remember correctly, there's like a window unit AC like in the room that they're in, and he's all like bitch, she's purple rain. It's like it's I'm good on that. It's it it was really, really funny. But this one, he actually put out a song with somebody named Colt Shada. Everybody knows Colts Shada, dude.
SPEAKER_09I actually don't. How do you not know? Colt Shada or Tan who? Tanboy Miguel. Tanboy Miguel. You don't know Tan Boy Miguel?
SPEAKER_08No. Or Colt Shada, dude? Only Tamboys I know are fucking uh bodega bams.
SPEAKER_11Yeah, bro. So never never heard of these cats.
SPEAKER_09Not a goddamn bit, dude. Nobody has to. Well, this is I can't brought you with Ted series outside Tam, put me on.
SPEAKER_11No, no, no, fucking Colt Shada and Tan Boy Miguel featuring uh Bam Margera.
SPEAKER_09The song's called It's always been Colt Shada and Tan Man Miguel, dude.
SPEAKER_11What are you talking about? Tan boy, not tan man. Although that'd be better. It's called Feel Like Bam.
SPEAKER_09So let's let's listen let's listen to the hook. And then you holler at me so I could change his name for him.
SPEAKER_11No, no. Already it looks like somebody that shopped at Hot Topic in like 2003.
SPEAKER_00Fuck them all. I can never heart a vis, but a hardogram I feel like I'm gonna do it.
SPEAKER_11Wait, this supposed to be a disc? Pause it, pause it, pause it, pause it, pause it, pause it, pause it. Hold on. We we made it, we didn't even make it 30 seconds in before they referenced a hardiram. Alright, yeah.
SPEAKER_09Hey, hey, hey, hey, fellas, fellas, fellas. Can I tell y'all a secret real quick though? Hit me with it. Secret time? Secret time, boys. Secret time. Secret time. Alright, man. So uh I'm not gonna I'm not gonna deny in seventh grade I did have a hardiogram shirt.
SPEAKER_11I know you did. I know you did. It's okay because you are a victim of the times. It was it was it wasn't my choice.
SPEAKER_09Okay, so this guy happens. Oh yeah, I was just doing confessional. But however, though, I will tell you this, dude. I had a pair of bam audio shoes, dog, them motherfuckers smack cuz. Them bitches were one of the best case shoes I ever had in my entire life.
SPEAKER_11All right, let's look at this. I think I freeze-framed it on the perfect frame because I think that's Colt Shada, the one with the crazy Liberty spikes coming off the back of his head and wearing bondage pants. And I think that's tan boy Miguel. I hope it is, dude.
SPEAKER_09I hope that's Colt Shada, and I hope I hope it's the other way. Alright. Alright, so we already referenced the hardogram. Alright, we're winding it back a little bit just so we can kind of get back into where we're at.
SPEAKER_10Wait, is this Bam rapping right now? No. Okay. This is this guy.
SPEAKER_11That's what I thought. So he's hiding behind like that weird, like, I'm gonna sing my rap because it doesn't rhyme. That little skies type vibe. I can't fuck with that shit, man. You said it, I didn't. You said it. Do you like do you like this kind of like rap? There's like singy auto-tune.
SPEAKER_08I'm not a fan.
SPEAKER_11Travis Scottish kind of.
SPEAKER_08I'm not a fan. I can't honestly. I can't lie. I like like a lot of darker rap. Me too, and that's why I really fuck with your shit. Especially if it's a diss. Like if this is a diss. Oh, it's a diss. No, no, no.
SPEAKER_09No, because Bam's gonna come in, bruh. Okay, yeah. Oh, that's Tan Boy Miguel? Oh, yeah, yeah. No, dude, run back, Tan Bam. Dude, Tan Miguel, dude. I'm talking about Talking about T T M, dude. T T M dude. What's up? Run him back, man. I need to hear my boy, dude. I don't think I can hear him correctly, son. Look at hold up.
SPEAKER_11Skater boy gonna make you come. I don't know why, but I picked one that had the subtitles. And these lyrics are awful. These lyrics are awful. Yeah, please re- please read.
SPEAKER_09Please rewind my dog, dude. Okay. TMM dudes gotta fucking DJ hear that one more time, dog.
SPEAKER_11I don't think I heard him correctly, cuz. Listen to how high his voice gets at this one part. Just wait for it.
SPEAKER_06I usually don't like.
SPEAKER_08I don't like I don't like talking like this. But dog, you lost me.
SPEAKER_03You lost me when you hit that high.
SPEAKER_09Hey, I'm gonna tell you right now, Billy, dude, I'm gonna take all the smoke from anybody that says anything about this. I'm encouraging this the most because goddamn, I don't know what the fuck that was.
SPEAKER_06That shit.
SPEAKER_09I don't know how you you he came in and I was already fucking, I was already geeking, and then he just I'm I'm sitting here thinking, like, bro, yo, no offense, but you left the studio and was like, this is it.
SPEAKER_08Right? I got a song with bam, and this is it, bro.
SPEAKER_03This is it.
SPEAKER_08Oh man.
SPEAKER_09Oh, that's about to fucking change, right, bro?
SPEAKER_08Mom, all right, I'm telling you. He said, Mom, this is it. This is it. My big break.
SPEAKER_11Yeah, I got my big break. Mom, I'm gonna your boy is a rock star. Mom, I'm bad.
SPEAKER_09Yeah, a new washing machine because you know, so because I don't watch this. Let's try to make it to BAM. Yeah. Alright, I'm sorry. We're right back to the chorus. Okay, so we're running back.
SPEAKER_11No, we made we made it back to the chorus. So I feel like I'm bam. I feel like I'm bam.
SPEAKER_00I feel like I'm old, man. I could never follow his next. I feel like I'm bamboo.
SPEAKER_05Oh, I had to take it a lesson from the top. Yeah, what we at the family function. Come on, flip and slap.
SPEAKER_11Catch me at the family fun center. I'm on a slip and slap. The funny thing is, what dog, what are you doing at the Family Fun Center? Because you don't have custody of your kid.
SPEAKER_09Oh man, damn. He's just the only dad on there slipping slider by the biggest.
SPEAKER_11The whole gym gets deeper. Oh my god. Okay, hold on. I'll take it back just a little bit. Okay.
unknownOh.
SPEAKER_09He says I'm probably gonna end of this. We got to listen to the whole song. No, no. No, no, no. Here we go. Without saying anything.
unknownI have to rise from the act.
SPEAKER_05I have to take a letter from the top.
SPEAKER_09Say you swear. Say you swear, dog.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, what we at the family fun tick. I'm on a flip and slide. And I'm naked as shit. Ten motherfuckers with a dick ten feet wide. Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_11He's like, I'm in this spot with ten motherfuckers with a ten or dick ten feet wide.
SPEAKER_09I'm ten feet. Tatten's. It's talking about tatting, dude. He's tatting. I'm confused right now. Yeah, no. I don't think I'm gonna fly. I'm naked as shit.
SPEAKER_11Ten motherfuckers with a dick ten feet wide.
SPEAKER_03Oh no.
SPEAKER_09Please pause. Don't do drugs, kids. Pause, pause. Don't do drugs, kids. Don't do drugs, kids. Pause because I I want to record, I want to I want to rewind that back just for one more time. Whoop-dee-woo. Okay. And I don't think I gave it the best appreciation that I could.
SPEAKER_11He's finally gonna say something about somebody because he says double dare not feel the most wholesome diss I ever heard.
SPEAKER_09Just rewind it back.
SPEAKER_08He hasn't said shit yet.
SPEAKER_09I'm going right here. Okay, ten feet wide. Yeah.
SPEAKER_05Step in the ring. I can't remember. Opened up the door and stepped on all these fucking tacks. You ruined my fucking moneymakers and you ruined what I love. Professionals? I'm the only one who's pro. Just because we man could do a nose slide on a fucking one-foot curve does not mean you should put a blue boy taking shots at Wii Man.
SPEAKER_09We made it do nothing. I'm gonna be honest with you, dude. This is my favorite part of the song, dog. Bam is spitting, dude. Yeah, so talking shoving my phone over this shit right now, dude. Hold on.
SPEAKER_11So the whole the the whole song is in a diss. He just says he wants to fight Knoxville in a ring. None of it rhymed. Oh, we can do it. But then at the end, it's like we clip from him on a podcast, maybe, or a phone conversation.
SPEAKER_09We man can do an upside on curb, though. That's pretty dope, man. That's pretty dope. Yeah, I mean, but what did Wii Man do?
SPEAKER_08I love Wii Man, dude.
SPEAKER_10I love the little people memes where it's like Davey fucking the dude threw the spears and it showed the other dude toothpicks in the beard.
SPEAKER_09That shit had me dying. No, you ever seen that fucked up shit where somebody just had a hand placed up next to next to a little person, like there was a thumb and shit, dog? He's like, man.
SPEAKER_11Hey, let's let's hear what let's I think we're finally getting to the dissing, so let's let's see. Let's hear the diss.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_06He skates because he's gonna be a big thing. You do not get little kid. Oh my god. Point it back, dude. Okay. Oh my god.
SPEAKER_11I gotta say this part of the song's fire. This is fucking hilarious.
SPEAKER_09Dude, man, yo, man. I like I like Donkey Bill. I'm gonna tell you this right now, dude. He might have had a ghostwriter for all the other bullshit he was doing, dude. But this shit is no ghostwriter for that.
SPEAKER_08I should have gotten I don't know Jeffrey on this to make this disc real. That shit would have been hilarious because him and Jeffrey would have cracked me up the whole time. Oh, dude, well, you gotta respect my fucking TMN.
SPEAKER_09I gotta try to make it. TMN is still in there, dog.
SPEAKER_11We got like one minute left, so I'm wondering like how much talking shit he was doing at the end. Let's try let's try to make it through. I'm trying to.
SPEAKER_05Hey, Paul, what's that name? Steve O. You know, yeah, he skates, but he can barely do a rail slide on a fucking flat bar. Meanwhile, we have Corey Juno, Nigel Houston, Chris Joclin, all these motherfuckers breaking their ass. I talked to the Olympics and they all said this is fucked. But I love Steve O. But man. Especially Jermaine is a greedy fat fucking pussy who made us sign a contract that everybody can get hurt except him. Him, him, him, him. Fuck them all.
SPEAKER_09Wow.
SPEAKER_11Wow.
SPEAKER_09Wow.
SPEAKER_11And at the end there, he uh his uh homie said Spic World. What Spic World? Yeah, look, look, look. Ready? Oh, it's right, it's hold on, I'm gonna find it. You'll hear him in the background, auto tune.
SPEAKER_05But he can get target sent him. Fuck them.
SPEAKER_11Spick world. I'm dead. Bro, a couple of Hispanics are like, Spick World. I I didn't say it, they said it. Alright. I'm just I'm just talking about it.
SPEAKER_09Oh man, I'm just I'm just a humble, I'm just a humble, uh, I'm just an admirer of the craft. Oh my gosh.
SPEAKER_11From an entertainment value, I mean that that has high value.
SPEAKER_08I am baffled right now.
SPEAKER_11I was about to say, uh I'm gonna be honest with you. Ladies and gentlemen, we got a respected hometown hero, uh Duval County stand-up, Billy Winfield with us, and we want your thoughts on what you just saw.
SPEAKER_08I am baffled at this. I don't know what to say right now. Go take it, Pobly. That was fucking awful. That was wild. I've heard better raps on Bob's burgers.
SPEAKER_11Yeah. Yeah, from everybody across the board. But the most entertaining part was the end.
SPEAKER_09Yeah, your top three favorite parts of the song, though. You get three different parts you get to talk, dude. No little kid points.
SPEAKER_08First off, why the little kid points? Why he go at Wii Man?
SPEAKER_11I was like, what did Wee Man do to you? I've never heard Wii Man talk shit about Bam. I've never I've only heard all of them encourage him to get sober and get his life together.
SPEAKER_09Nobody can even hear him, anyways. He's down there, dude. He's down there. I I hate to double back to my boy.
SPEAKER_08But disrespect my dog, man. Why did you leave the studio and think that was okay? To hit a high-pitched note like that.
SPEAKER_09Tamboy Miguel was feeling himself. You mean he was dude, TMA Miguel. Dude, TMM, Doug.
SPEAKER_08That's my boy, TMA. All I can say, Doug. Third thing. This is all I'm gonna say, and I'm gonna leave it at this. It's my kids, drugs are a hell of a thing. Yeah. Drugs are a hell of a thing. Yeah, I guess, I guess with that. Marijuana, don't do that to you, people.
SPEAKER_09That's what we're trying to say.
SPEAKER_11Shit won't happen. We're gonna go ahead and segue into our
Play Stupid Games Segment Begins
SPEAKER_11segment. Um, play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Yep. It's time for everyone's favorite new segment: play stupid games, and you'll win stupid prizes, where we review videos and stories of people throwing caution to the wind and common sense out the window, resulting in pain, embarrassment, and tragedy. That's right, everybody. This is uh play stupid games, win stupid prizes. It's where uh fuck around meets find out, and uh we got a couple of fun stories. I just figured uh Bam basically uh fucked around and found out that he should stay the fuck away from music. Mr.
SPEAKER_09Walnuts, we have a hot one on the press right there with that one, dude.
SPEAKER_11That was uh that was that was a good one. But uh I kind of want to start off with this
Daredevil Climbing Goes Wrong
SPEAKER_11one. All right. This story of uh the French daredevil that falls to his death. Um earlier, like this.
SPEAKER_09We're coming in hot?
SPEAKER_11Yeah, it is. Last week, um, here's like a short video of kind of some of his other climbs. Um, so they give it they give they're gonna be a good thing.
SPEAKER_09It's this guy he was good till he wasn't, is what you're saying, Doctor.
SPEAKER_11Oh man. So it's this guy, Remy.
SPEAKER_09Can can you make the video bigger, perhaps?
SPEAKER_11So you see, he does this weird shit.
SPEAKER_09Oh, he does he's that dude? Yeah. Where he climbs up. Yeah. I heard about this. Yeah, he's one of those dudes. Yeah, so wait, did they release the video of him dying? No, not yet. Oh, unfortunately, we don't have to watch. Oh, I like what we're about to watch, dude. Oh, I was.
SPEAKER_11But I've got I've got another one. Actually, when I didn't find this one, I found one of China's first uh rooftopper. Um, and he actually it's the video of him not being able to pull himself up when he falls to his death. So we're gonna get that one.
SPEAKER_09I was I was waiting so hard for him to fucking fall. I thought I was about to watch a man die. I mentally prepared myself for that shit. The police where you brought it in, dude.
SPEAKER_11I was like I was mentally preparing myself for that shit. The police did find his camera um where his where his body was. So I hope that eventually we'll uh we'll get the footage.
SPEAKER_09But dude, I mean, uh honestly, if it's if it's people want to give it his last wishes, dude. His last will and wishes are. I'm saying wild. So man, he said he lived and died by it, bro.
SPEAKER_11You respect it. What they discovered was. He made it to the top floor, but he was locked out of the top floor penthouse.
SPEAKER_09I'll tell you right now, but he fell to the bottom too, dog.
SPEAKER_11He made his top fell to the bottom real quick, like dude. No, so he was trying to get into the top penthouse and it was locked, and he was banging on the window, and apparently he lost his balance at that point and fell to his death. So camera was found next to his body by the police. It was in China, and uh I was so uh there were eyewitnesses that kind of described what they saw.
SPEAKER_09Yeah, so um I was so ready to watch a man die right there, dude. Like I'm all about like pushing the limit, bro.
SPEAKER_08You thought we were about to see that. I did. Wait, I I've watched some crazy shit though. I can't I can't lie.
SPEAKER_11I've watched some crazy shit. I watch all of it.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, it's I don't know. There's a little thing in my brain that if it comes across my timeline, I'm gonna watch it. Yeah, uh now unless it's super gruesome, like I can't I can't watch someone get like beat to death.
SPEAKER_11So this video, this
Rooftopper Falls On Livestream
SPEAKER_11guy actually falls. We're gonna watch him fall to his death. Fall to his death. Oh yeah. Um isn't this America's a good one on?
SPEAKER_09I mean more like street fights. Yeah. So this guy road rages and shit.
SPEAKER_11This guy here was uh woo-yong ying. Say that three times fast.
SPEAKER_08Woo yong yong ying, you woo-yong ying, woo-yang ying, woo-yang ying. There you go.
SPEAKER_11So he called himself China's first rooftopper, and he used to do this. He would go either climb all the way up um the side of a building, or he would go up to the top of a roof, and he would just hang himself over and he would do pull-ups and just hang there and take photos. And so he live streamed this um in people like paid. And so there's a bunch of eyewitnesses, and so he like went over, obviously, just did a couple of pull-ups, and now he's realizing that he's slipping and he can't fucking he can't do anything. He's struggling to get his feet, he's trying to like and there he goes. 62 stories.
SPEAKER_10Oh no, fuck.
SPEAKER_11Yeah, so uh fuck God damn, bro.
SPEAKER_08Your whole life is fucking flashing before your eyes at that moment. I mean, he lived. I couldn't imagine that.
SPEAKER_09Yo, he lived in die by two though, man.
SPEAKER_11Yeah, I mean, I'm just like you hear so many times people like I was just up in the Georgia Mountains and uh we we went to uh what was uh it was a goddamn Sasquatch, Sam Squamps. Sam Squampship Damn, I can't remember the name of uh Anna Ruby Falls we went to. It's waterfalls, right? Beautiful. Yeah, beautiful. But I had to talk with my daughter, especially like my young one. I was like, look, along the way, we're gonna see a lot of signs that say don't go beyond here. I was like, the reason why is because you could hurt yourself, and even though it looks safe to you for the moment, like you don't want to fuck around and find out because you're gonna play a stupid game and win a stupid prize. And so we had this whole thing all along the way, like they're really awesome, and you see a couple people pushing the boundaries, and I'm like, that's how you wind up going in for a selfie, standing on the edges, like, oh, I can't see how tall, how high up I am yet, uh and then you're off the fucking
National Parks And Feral Human Talk
SPEAKER_11edge.
SPEAKER_08But my thing is I don't know if y'all seen the fucking park system is how they kidnap people. Y'all ain't seen that?
SPEAKER_11Wait, wait, wait. What the national park system, like uh the Pacific uh Bro, all of the national parks where it says don't go beyond this, bro.
SPEAKER_08They got feral humans out there. Yeah, so there's a trail. Feral humans, what is it? Feral humans, bro, straight up like they live they live so.
SPEAKER_11They're trying to escape society. Yeah, they're trying to go live out there. And not only that, there's uh what is it? It's like the Pacific cannibals out there. Pacific Trail. It's kind of like the equivalent to the Appalachian Trail, but it goes from like I think uh Baja California all the way up to Washington State. And they're like, once you get to Oregon, watch there are numerous uh accounts of people that are like are out there hiking, going solo by themselves and then been being stalked by people. Oh yeah, like their supplies being taken and hearing whispers outside their voices. There's there's people that disappear out there all the time.
SPEAKER_08But alright, so watch the hills have eyes, my friend. But watch this episode of American Horror Stories. I want to call my mom real quick. Yeah, bro. It's it's American Horror Stories, not American Horror Story. It's like IES type shit. They got like uh I can read or write. Yeah, like singular.
SPEAKER_06I'm a singular commentary.
SPEAKER_08Literally, they got like singular episodes. There's an episode where uh about that whole thing. Wow, like the feral humans out there, bro. It's crazy. They be eating humans, they be kidnapping them, making them fucking That's pretty dope. Well, like a lot of a lot of them. And it's crazy.
SPEAKER_11A lot of them, if you're like out there and you're like on your own backpacking trip, right? And you've you've got your own rations and everything, and you do what you're supposed to do to keep a bear out, and like you you put it up in a tree, like a dangling from a tree and shit like that, and then they'll like take their supplies and they'll see like footprints all around their tent. And they'll stalk them for days, slowly like kind of tormenting them and taking all of their supplies in the process, and then basically leaving them for dead where they have to like they have to like make it out to the closest civilization with like no supplies on their own, or basically just die out there.
SPEAKER_10I'd be booking it. We better hope they don't steal your compass.
SPEAKER_11Because if they took your compass, then you fucked.
SPEAKER_09That's why you don't wake the bear, dude. That's why I don't know you're kidnapped by a bear and just fucks you for weeks, dude. That's why I don't go to the cocaine bear.
SPEAKER_08I'll do some trails, but I ain't gonna steer off the trail. Oh no, bro.
SPEAKER_11That's why you just uh what is what's the old saying? You tread lightly and carry a big stick. Uh-huh. I carry that.
SPEAKER_09I keep that stick with me, dog. I keep that dang with me, dog. I got that. I'm I'm licensed too. So the next one. Hey, me too, dog. Why you think they call me the doctor, fam? Yeah. Because you could deliver the prescription.
SPEAKER_11So the next thing I actually wanted to talk about on the uh play stupid games, win stupid prizes is uh we got we have a real sidetracked on that one.
SPEAKER_09No, you're fine, you're fine. ADHD. It's uh Yeah, yeah, a little bit of LSD makes me gonna do that. Just a smidge.
SPEAKER_11Let me fucking disconnect this real quick. That's what she said. Uh no, I I really wanted to talk about uh whisperer, dude.
Adam22 Lena Drama And Boundaries
SPEAKER_11Adam 22 and Lena the Plug, right?
SPEAKER_09Oh god. That shit is wild. Yo, yo, yo, hold on, hold on, dude. When we do this, can we just all whisper like Garzegs about it when we say it? Or is that just I I don't know why, I just think it'd be funnier. This is turning into an ASMR. I don't know. Adam 22. You guys want to be a star, don't you?
SPEAKER_11Play stuff like the the whole the whole reason the whole reason why I put this in uh play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Yeah. Is because uh the the way that he's like shocked, I guess, and the way he's been talking about how the one dude that piped his wife has been talking. And and like, have you heard his response? He's like he's all he's all like, you like, yeah, bro, you're being real disrespectful. I thought we had an understanding. You're now blacklisted from boning my wife. Like what? You cornball cuckled? What are you fucking talking about?
SPEAKER_08That whole situation definitely is uh uh all I can say is clout is one hell of a drug. You feel me? Cause like, ain't no fucking way, bro. Ain't no fucking way.
SPEAKER_11So I and I and I hey and I understand all the the women's you know opinion. Hold on, buddy. I understand all the women's opinion about how they're like, oh, well, he's fucked a hundred girls with his wife on plug talk. Yeah, and I get that. However, you can't let another man bone your wife, like put the video out there, and then get mad when he's talking the way he's talking because he's you set that boundary and then got mad at that boundary, yeah.
SPEAKER_08Exactly.
SPEAKER_11Right, I'm like, you played stupid games, bro. You won this stupid prize. And so with that, I've got like this is the funniest shit to me. Hold on, fellas.
SPEAKER_09I want I want to get in on this, but I'm gonna do it as a whisper though, because I'm committing to the bit. But so uh see see the problem is with with him and everything like that, you know, doing that, is like he's like huck hole because he that last video at the end that you showed me, Paul, where he's just like, yo man, I just gotta step my game up and shit. I'm about to play. Oh my god. Have you seen this? No, I haven't seen that.
SPEAKER_11So this is this is his response to the one I don't even know the guy, the the the big black porn star that fucked his wife. Yeah, went went went on a couple of podcasts and was like, Yeah, she was tight, she needed a good stretch, and he was asked, like, did you fuck her better than Adam ever could? He's like, Yeah, he's like, This is what I do for a living. He's like, Of course I did. But he did have the caveat that he was like, but I'm sure it's better for her with him because they have love. So he like was real disrespectful, but then like but then tried to be like a weird little sidestep, like, oh, I'm respectful because I got love. So it was kind of a weird thing, and Adam's getting all mad about his like you're being all disrespectful. So he even says this on one of his other podcasts, and it's funny because he talks about this with all these dudes, and nobody gets his perspective. Not at all. Nobody's like, there's like, nah, dog, I don't get it.
SPEAKER_09Like nobody's having his shit dude.
SPEAKER_08My thing is, is I'm like, it's like he's the one who uploaded it. Right. Like the all of it. I'm like, dude, you're the one who brought this to light, and now you're mad at the backlash you're getting.
SPEAKER_04Listen, listen to this. Listen to this. I mean, even if he did lay it down better, that just means that I personally need to step my game up so that I can, you know, compete.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, compete and that's your wife.
SPEAKER_04So it was tight as fuck before. I could have used a little scratening.
SPEAKER_11He just said that he's like, now he's like thankfully, he's like, Yeah, she needed a good scratening. And and he's like, I need to compete, bro. That's your wife. You ain't competing with shit. Like, that's usually terrible. Terrible.
SPEAKER_08Bro, what has the internet done to these folks, bro?
SPEAKER_11That is just a sample of the way he's been talking about it. And I'm like, bro, you played a stupid game, you won your stupid prize. There's no backpedaling. There's no backpedaling. And he even tweeted about it. Apparently, he was like, Oh, I thought it was kind of hot. And if that makes me a cuckled, then you know, blah blah or I don't know how that makes me cuckled or something like that. That exactly makes you a cuckold.
SPEAKER_10Yeah, like it's like, what do you think, bro? If you look it up in the dictionary, that is the definition type shit.
SPEAKER_09Like you're telling me. You're telling me if I like watching my wife get piped out, that makes me a cuckold. Bro, you're telling me that's what you're gonna tell me right now?
SPEAKER_08You know what's hilarious. I'm not gonna name drop, but this shit was fucking hilarious. And me and my other homie were like, bro, you're fucking crazy. One of our mutual homies, you know what I mean, is into that shit. And he was he tried to convince us. He would bro, he's like, There's nothing more hotter than watching that. And bro, we literally looked at him and was like, bro, you're literally fucking tripping. He's like, nah, man, like that's the most power move you could do. I'm like, bro, what you're literally tripping in your brain.
SPEAKER_11I this is what I think where porn on internet being so easily accessible, it's fucked people up. It's fucked people up because they've desensitized themselves to where the only way this dude can get off is by watching his wife do some really some fucked up shit.
SPEAKER_09You know what I mean? So and bro, I don't use my phone most of the day, dog. Like my phone's not about it.
SPEAKER_08No cap, bro. He he he's got a baby. And uh after finding out what he was into, I am like, is that really your kid?
SPEAKER_11Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_10No, actually, I won't lie.
SPEAKER_11One time, one time I was at the pub on, I don't even know if it's still there, but on Hodges and shit. I'll take some back.
SPEAKER_09I'll take some back.
SPEAKER_11It was it was over off Hodges and like Beach Boulevard. It's called the pub. I don't even know if it's there anymore, but me and my my homie Ramon back in the day were playing pool. Yeah, and we had this like married couple that were really fucking cool, but they were like buying drinks and they were just being sociable all night. And uh then they basically propositioned they wanted both of us to come back and fuck his wife while the dad, like the husband watched and recorded and shit. And I think I was like, at the time, I actually had an old lady and I was like, it's a hard out for me, dog. You know what I'm saying? Um but my boy Ramon went through and he got paid, apparently. He went through it. Apparently he gave money, yeah.
SPEAKER_08Oh my god, so bro, so some people are fucking into that. Oh, two things. I will name drop these two. Oh, these are hilarious.
SPEAKER_09We're going for alcohol smoke, dog.
SPEAKER_08My homie Terrell out in fucking Denver, bro. My man has been piping down married wives for like at least two years now. That's a fucking job. Getting paid, bro. And that's a dream job, dude. That shit is hilarious.
SPEAKER_09I quit podcasting right motherfucking.
SPEAKER_08It's funny because if his agent called me Doug, I'd say I look at both of y'all, but fuck y'all up. He'd just be meeting them at the bars. Yeah. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_11And then another They go hunting, like those people that are into that, they like go scoping people out and they like try to Bro.
SPEAKER_08My other homie, my long-term, this is like my best friend, bro. We've been you know, homies for 20 years type shit. You know what I mean? Doug, bro. I'm a scholar. My brother Doug, right? People like me, he was saying it's mid-blow job, right? And then fucking husband comes home. And then, you know, wife tried to tell him it was okay. Doug was like, I'm not into this. So he walked out, bro. He said he literally like walked past the husband, and then like the husband was into it. Like, um, he was like, I was like, oh, don't don't mind me, guys.
SPEAKER_11Keep it, keep going. Literally, what he said. Don't let me interrupt.
SPEAKER_08He was like type shit, and uh Doug was like, yeah, no, I just I can't go through a designer shit.
SPEAKER_11So Doug ended up leaving. Nah, dude. But that shit was like shoutouts to Terrell and Doug out there doing the dirty work.
SPEAKER_08That shit was hilarious. That shit was funny. That's fucking great.
SPEAKER_10That shit was funny.
SPEAKER_08So
Failed To Load Project And Shows
SPEAKER_08take care of it.
SPEAKER_11So what what you got coming up here in the future? Uh you got I'm sure you got some shows coming up. Uh you got any you got any albums dropping soon?
SPEAKER_08So I'm actually uh I've had this album finished for it's it's a project, I'll say. It's damn near considered an album, but like it's a mixtape. Yeah, it will see, it's it's not because I can sell it. I all the beats are exclusive, you know what I mean? Right. And uh but I haven't put it out yet because like I want to market this correctly, you know what I mean? But I've been sitting on it for like a year now, and it's hands down the best piece of work I've I put out. It's like seven songs, it's called Failed to Load, and uh it's about my computer. It's about my computer. It's about it's about my computer. Like that's the uh like meaning behind the like name of the project, and uh each song title is is the same. Like it goes, it's the whole process that it went through. So it goes startup, processing, error, reboot, loading, fail uh data retrieval, and then failed to load. Fuck yeah, dude. Each one has its own, like, you know, other meaning within it type shit like that.
SPEAKER_11So it's like a whole concept album, yeah. But it's like a it's what uh what's what do they call them on records back in the day? Like, was that just be like an LP and not an EP? EP is an extended play, and LP was like, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_08And uh I actually got my girl to tie the whole project in. She does like the computer Siri voice on the project. Oh, cool. So it's like, and instead of saying like track one, track two, you know what I mean? It's like uh phase one startup, and then like system malfunction type shit. That's where like the beat changes, and then my homie M1H1 comes in. And uh, because there's only two features on the whole project, which is M1H1, he's from Orlando, cool, and then uh my brother Ichabobah Veins, and he's from uh fucking uh South That name's dumb as shit, dude.
SPEAKER_09West Palm Beach. He said it one more time, though, dude. That was the coolest name. Uh Members Only. That's the coolest fucking name I've ever heard in my life.
SPEAKER_11Members only fucking uh what's that X Extension?
SPEAKER_08He uh him and X got a song, they dropped it after fucking X died. It's on X's YouTube channel. That shit got like 16 million views. Oh yeah, dang. But uh fucking he actually did all of X's face tats.
SPEAKER_11Oh, that's cool. That's what's up.
SPEAKER_08He's a tattoo artist, and uh I just threw a show in Denver with him uh like two or three weeks ago, and uh he's trapping tats out the hotel room. Yeah, that shit was hard. Like it was fun. Yeah, shout out my brother.
SPEAKER_11I did.
SPEAKER_08And M1H1.
SPEAKER_11Little postcard tat. We were up in Helen, Georgia. There's a big windmill up there, so me and the wife both got one.
SPEAKER_08Fuck yeah.
SPEAKER_11Yeah, but um, so you got any shows coming up?
SPEAKER_08Um, so I'm working, I think it's October 19th. Uh well, actually September 16th is the next Jacksonville show. It's at Justice Pub. I'm headlining. Cool. Um, but the show I'm throwing, I'm throwing a Halloween show. Oh I was trying to get rhythm of fear on it, but all of them are working. And uh fucking I'm gonna go. I'm gonna try and do it.
SPEAKER_09I will do the show for you.
SPEAKER_08I'm trying to get like uh a variety of like, you know, some metal bands and then also some some rap acts type shit. Cause uh I feel like it's Halloween. Halloween is grungy, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_11Like honestly, like metal metal and hip hop, like hardcore, like good hip hop, like dark hip hop, it goes hand in hand.
SPEAKER_08It meshes.
SPEAKER_09So uh and then on top of that, that's a real that's a real that's a real dress shit though, dude.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, I want to do a costume contest. You know what I mean? And then like there'll be like four sections. We'll probably do like a uh Ken and Barbie, you know what I mean? Because that's like the trend now.
SPEAKER_11Yeah, and uh I just show up as Oppenheimer and blow that motherfucker up.
SPEAKER_03Shit would be fire.
SPEAKER_09And nobody better show up as Steve Irwin because it's still not cool yet, man.
SPEAKER_08We'll do uh fucking like scariest contest, like the scariest costume, funniest costume.
SPEAKER_09I'm gonna show up, I'm gonna show up just fucking me and a speedo type shit.
SPEAKER_08Steve O and the Speedo? Yeah, dude, I'm just figuring life out, dude. That shit would be hilarious. Pull up in the green uh one that fucking Borat wears. Hell yeah.
SPEAKER_11Um go ahead. Uh we've been talking for a minute, man. I appreciate you coming on. Tell everybody else where they can like find you on social
Where To Find Billy Online
SPEAKER_11media and stuff.
SPEAKER_08So it's uh Billy underscore Winfield on Instagram, uh Billy underscore Winfield on Twitter. I believe it's Billy underscore Winfield on TikTok. Uh Spotify, Apple Music, SoundCloud, uh, pretty much anywhere. You just ask Alexa to play Billy Winfield. Go download his music, y'all. That's just gonna come up. Check him out.
SPEAKER_11And uh yeah, fucking let's skate sometime.
SPEAKER_08I'm gonna drop a video, actually, is the next thing I'm doing. The 18th. And yes, I'm down to skate. Uh the 18th is when the video is dropping for detached. Hell yeah. Yeah, this shit's about to be hard. We'll definitely keep eyeing out.
SPEAKER_09I just went and followed uh I don't know. Yeah, no, I mean, I just I don't even read.
SPEAKER_11You're late to the game, son. Late to the game.
SPEAKER_09Now you know I read, dog.
SPEAKER_11But yeah, man, um, once again, stoked for you coming on, brother. Definitely look forward to coming and checking you out. Yeah, definitely we'll have you on again. And uh thanks to everybody for listening.
Final Thanks And Sign Off
SPEAKER_11And as always, it's uh peace, love, and skateboarding.
SPEAKER_08Amen. All day, every day. Yeah.
Outro Track And Closing Bars
SPEAKER_07Hey yo, how the fuck I get this high. Fucked around the eight of Eddie. Look me steady in my eyes, moving slowly off the couch. I think this house is full of lies. Only cats inside my wood. It's the reason I survive. Ah Hey yo, call up Doug, call up Perkins too. Yeah. I'll be probably taking to the chosen view and Billy run it back. I really rap and take you back to school. They say murder was the decent turn. They left him on the beaches. If we link to you the weakest uh, yeah. Didn't rely on my teachers. I move past what they teach us. It's forbidden if I teach you. Address me a sensei if we free. Holding your chin up when I speak, paying attention when repeat. Fucking the world up then I leave, setting the measurements for my team, breaking the boundaries on the scene, bitch. And I ain't finished yet. Yeah. And where's the credit I deserve? Then I'm motion out the bottle. This is the reason why it's worth that's still hanging off my waist. 1380 in her purse. There's a bounty on my floor. I'm bout to double up my worth, and that's my word. This weed trash, you need a new connect. Yeah. I knew he was a bitch, all disrespect. I ain't saying names, but you can take a guess. I'm running with them boys from North Florida. We don't see no threat. They say they love me, but I don't believe it. This marijuana that I'm smoking. Have you meeting Jesus? They so retarded why they worship Jesus. Every time I drop it extra hot, I'm about to leave them speechless. Ayo, me and it, we done made them sick. Yeah. About to wreck the game just for punishment. Yeah. Use my suits to know I'm about to flip the script and activate my renegon and make this world not exist.