Pauly On The Pod
Pauly On The Pod
Your Favorite Skaters Favorite Skater: Tim Johnson
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Your favorite skater’s favorite skater usually has the best stories, and Tim Johnson is exactly that kind of name in Jacksonville skateboarding. We pulled up to talk about where it all started: growing up just over the Georgia line, getting hooked on skateboarding at 10, and learning style the hard way on rough terrain, homemade ramps, and whatever spots the Southeast could offer. The result is a conversation packed with real skate history, Kona Skatepark memories, and the kind of details you only get from someone who lived it.
We nerd out on the stuff skaters actually argue about, too: goofy vs regular, frontside vs backside, why some tricks feel impossible until one tiny foot angle changes everything, and how pool skating teaches control you can’t fake. Tim also connects the dots between martial arts and skateboarding, from balance and timing to the ability to make small adjustments under pressure. If you’re into progression, vert ramp technique, or the DIY skatepark mindset, you’ll hear a lot to steal for your next session.
Then the lens widens to travel and culture: Australia bowls on the beach, tattoos as life bookmarks, and multiple trips through Scandinavia where the summer sun barely sets and the skate community goes all-in. We close with the real talk about getting older in skateboarding: pads, helmets, injuries we’ve seen up close, and how protecting yourself doesn’t dull your skating, it keeps you in the game.
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Surgery Eve And Big Guest
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SPEAKER_01What's up, everybody? It's your boy Poli. Stroke the Eagle. Stroke the Eagle. That's right. Oh. Don't you ever fucking forget it. And you know, I got my partner. I got the one and only, Dr. Jones. But you want to say his name, baby. Go ahead. Dr.
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SPEAKER_01Doctor. Doctor. Doctor. Doctor. All right. Okay.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, no, yeah. Still in there.
SPEAKER_01How's it going, my dude?
SPEAKER_02Uh I just chilling, brother.
SPEAKER_01Right on, man.
SPEAKER_02We'll uh eat some ding din.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, you'll be your last meal because you can't eat after midnight because tomorrow is surgery day. And we couldn't be more stoked. We couldn't be more stoked for that. Finally time, man. Finally time after after a long time battles. So um stoked for that. And uh also stoked for everybody that is uh listening. So if you don't mind, go ahead and uh take this time to do as Joey Diaz does and uh like, comment, subscribe. We'd be super stoked. Um, but shit. Half as stoked, half as stoked as we are to have the guests that we had. Um we linked up with the one and only Tim Johnson, uh, went by his house. We were gonna skate, but it was wet all day, and I had to work in the evening, so we had to cut it a little bit short, but we already knew this is gonna be like a three-parter. Well, yeah, you weren't gonna skate. You haven't skated, but you know. Um we already knew this was gonna be probably a three a three-parter. We've both known him for so long, and he's got so many stories. So this is kind of part one, um, merely scratching the surface, but hella stoked for it, dude.
SPEAKER_02I know, man. I'm I'm excited. I I'm really stoked on this episode and super excited for the listeners.
SPEAKER_01So yeah, to get to get to know a dude that we've looked up to for so long, as as well as many others, man. Since I started podcasting, especially and uh since you've joined on, you know, it's like he's been on the short list. We've been trying to get him on, but you know, he's been remodeling his house and you know, full on dad mode. So which I could, you know, we both can respect that one. So uh we've been patiently waiting and uh and now we finally got to link up with him and uh looking forward to hopefully uh next Saturday sitting down with him and and me maybe being able to get a little skate session on his uh on his ramp. Um, if you're feeling up to it, because we are on the eve of surgery day, and all of our listeners know um you've been battling this degenerative hip uh bone disorder disease and uh you're getting hip replacement, and the day is tomorrow. So when this drops, you will already have your your new hip in your body, and and bionic jones will uh uh be born.
SPEAKER_03Shall it be it, the bionic become it?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, that's what's up. So, anyway, without further ado, congratulations, my dude, and I hope surgery goes well. We'll be touching base tomorrow. And uh without further ado, fucking episode 48. Tim motherfucking Johnson, part one. Timmy, Timmy, Tim Me, Timmy.
SPEAKER_06Fuck it, dumb people. Look how you grown up, poorly.
SPEAKER_00Let's go! He's crazy!
SPEAKER_03It's pride thing. Get the fuck out of here.
SPEAKER_00He got the don't take a nap! You know what's gonna be too poly on the top.
SPEAKER_05So shut the fuck up, yo.
SPEAKER_03Polly won't be a big I wish I had another curtain.
Meeting Tim Johnson
SPEAKER_01Hey everybody, it's your boy, Pauly. Polly won a cracker. And you know I got my boy the one and only Dr. Jones.
SPEAKER_04You call him Dr. Jones!
SPEAKER_01What is good, my dude? What's up, buddy? Stoked to be sitting down with the guy we got here. So we got three years in the making? Yeah, like it's been a while. When I first started podcasting, uh, you were definitely on my short list of guys that I had to get on here. So welcome to the show, the one and only Tim Motherfucking Johnson.
SPEAKER_03We paid him We paid him 25 grand to make an appearance finally. You know it.
SPEAKER_01I've been dodging for a while. I suck at interviews. So no, I did you're good, bro. You're good. Just stoked to sit down and talk with him. Way better tailgator. Way, way better tailgator. I would hope so. Which, yeah, we'll talk about that in a little bit because I know you're stoked about your dogs holding it down two years in a row. Oh shit, I don't want to jinx anything.
SPEAKER_03You never talk about a no-hitter when the no-hitter's happening, all right?
SPEAKER_01That's right, that's right. Um, but let's go ahead and start uh, you know, tell everybody a little bit about yourself, you know, where you're from originally, uh, what year you started skateboarding, that kind
Growing Up Near Jacksonville
SPEAKER_01of thing.
SPEAKER_05Um I was born in Jacksonville in 1977. Actually, sorry. And um I was born in Riverside Hospital, which obviously isn't there anymore. See, but I grew up uh no Riverside Hospital. It's torn down now. Oh it's not even there. Yeah. Um and that was like I guess the closest hospital that you wouldn't die in from St. Mary's, Georgia, where I grew up, just across the border from here. It's like 40 miles north. Holy shit.
SPEAKER_01Right.
SPEAKER_05So Jacksonville's always kind of been a home, even though I lived in Georgia.
SPEAKER_01So right, right, right, right. So uh when did you like officially move down here? Because I know you kind of grew up up there, right?
SPEAKER_05Yeah, I think I went through high school and everything up there, and uh from I met a lot of cool people there. It even though it's a small town in southeast Georgia, there's the naval sub-base there, so a lot of people from everywhere moved there, right? And there was a lot of culture coming in and out and stuff, and that's pretty much how I met the people through skateboarding and everything. And hell yeah. How old were you when you started skateboarding? I was 10. Hell yeah. You remember your first board? Uh the first legit board. I remember my dad took me after the uh see back to the future, and he took me to uh sports authority or the sports unlimited. Okay. And I got one of the Nash Executioners. Hell yeah. But uh my first real board uh when I started skating, and it wasn't a hula hoop anymore. Right, right. Um, that was uh old beat-up bonite Tony Hawk. And then later that Christmas I got a board that was way too big for me. It was a Jeff Kendall with the python, hell yeah, with red T-bones, everything was just way too big, and I looked badass.
SPEAKER_06I don't like a board.
SPEAKER_05And then I go to try to skate, and it had like a nine-inch tail that went to Vert. Oh shit, yeah, yeah, yeah, dude.
Stance, Tricks, And Pool Tips
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Um, let me ask you this are you regular or goofy? I am goofy footed.
SPEAKER_05I'm right-handed, so it's kind of weird on some traces. Same way, same way.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, that's that's pretty interesting. Because actually, uh, I always grew up pretty ambidextrous, and my daughter, um, she is well, she writes left-handed. She's very weird like me. Like I throw baseball right-handed, but I throw football left-handed. Huh. You know what I mean? Like, it's kind of weird. Um, I write right-handed because it kind of forced me to. My daughter writes left-handed, she bats right-handed, throws like right hand. It's like very yeah, it's kind of weird.
SPEAKER_03Tim, when you're batting in baseball, are you right foot forward or left foot forward? I'm right foot forward. Really? Because I like I'm right.
SPEAKER_05No, no, no, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I am a bat regular.
SPEAKER_03Yep, yep, that's the same thing with me.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah, that's the same thing with me. Wow, that's that's cool.
SPEAKER_05Um, if you had to pick front side or backside, uh, front side, I would say I've got a I've done a lot more scarier stuff. Backside's kind of harder for me because of that reason. Like, for me, like uh a backside Smith grind, a Monty, that's like me throwing a bowling ball left-handed. Right. From the way that your hips and everything. So, I mean, yeah, it's kind of weird for certain tricks, but certain tricks are a lot easier for me because of that too.
SPEAKER_01Gotcha. Yeah, I agree. That's kind of how I've always been. Like, front side rocks for me, for whatever reason, are so much easier than back rocks. Dude, however, on like big stuff, like I can't back rock anything small. But if it's like seven feet to like the vert ramp at cone, I can back rock that. It's crazy. I don't know. It's just, but if it's anything small, my front foot always like even if I deck it, I just it's real fucking awkward. It doesn't look good. It looks like I'm learning how to skate.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. I gotta try real hard to do front rocks, but like, but doing like a no-stall like front revert out, like you know, that like backside revert out or whatever, that's way easier than doing it the like the the way that people normally do it, like out.
SPEAKER_05If you point point your front foot forward a little bit, then you don't have to fight your whole hip and shoulder coming around, and your foot fixes as your board turns. Oh yeah. So I mean that I kind of learned that from skating the shallow ends of pools. If you go up front side in the shallow end of a pool, and like old school guys did their inverse, they would point their front foot forward a little bit and it opens the knee up. Yeah, and lets it draw up a little better, and as you turn, it goes back into your normal stance. Yeah, yeah. Benji Galloway showed me that little trick in pools a long time ago, and it made a world of difference.
SPEAKER_01Hell yeah. Shout out to Benji. Um now this has been skate lessons with Tim Johnson. Switch or faky if you had to choose.
SPEAKER_05Probably switch. Honestly. Honestly, it like if I'm thinking like skating flat bars or boxes or something like that. Fakey tricks just seemed a little harder. They are weird on that kind of stuff. I don't know. On ramps, faky on street switch.
SPEAKER_01Right on. Um, are you kickflip or a heel flip guy? I'm a kickflip guy. Hell yeah. In uh street, park, or both. Can I answer this one for you? ATV. I don't know. I was like, I felt dumb asking this question, but I pretty much ask everybody, so I feel like if I'm not consistent, then I'm not doing my job here. Yeah. No, I mean that's honestly when I think about you know, some all-terrain killers, dude, like you're one of the first names that come to uh come to mind for sure. Um and a couple years ago when Andy Roy was doing his rip ride podcast, uh, he had Clay Kreiner on. And I think I'd even messaged you on on Instagram about it was like, yo, check it out. Because Kreiner, when he was asked about who kind of influenced him and really motivated him to like want to push the next level, he gave you a shout out and said it was like growing up and going down to Jacksonville and seeing guys like Tim Johnson skate. He's like, I just wanted to skate like that.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, he came down from South Carolina a bunch when he was younger, and the kid crushed it from right off the rip. We knew, well, we didn't know. Yeah, he's totally shut shit down now. Yeah, man, he's amazing. Yeah, and he's just a great dude, too. I mean, I'm glad to see how his skateboarding and just him being a young man has matured up and everything. And you know, it's good to see a lot of the young kids that we used to see come around when we were still, I mean, we were the way older guys now, but they've definitely they've carried the torch and set the bar a lot higher.
SPEAKER_03Hell yeah, hell yeah. Not me. I still can't get into old man bull jam if I'm if I tried.
Influences, Sponsors, And Turning Pro
SPEAKER_01What what is uh who was your favorite skater or skaters growing up, if a you know any come to mind?
SPEAKER_05Uh Cardiel, Danny Way. Hell yeah. I mean, both of those guys, like whatever you put in front of them crushed it. Well, they would they would get creative with it too. They wouldn't just charge it the same way everybody was charging it. They had like that slight different approach and the just the aggression that Cartiel had with it, and it was just like he's not even like that on off the skateboard.
SPEAKER_01No, dude, when you find out that he's like a chill like reggae head and everything, and he's like so like you know, like mellow vibed, it's like, dude, you would not, I mean, you would think he'd be skating a slayer and shit. Yeah, exactly. He's skating like Augustus Pablo.
SPEAKER_05Um who was your uh first sponsor? My first sponsor was um legacy skateboards. Oh, yeah. Um Rick Andrati, who lives here again, he's retired military, so we moved around for a while, but we had a skate team.
SPEAKER_01Um yeah, and I know Rick like uh you know from kind of Kona, you know, just uh seen him around.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, we just we had a little crew going and we're like, man, let's just start making some boards and do some t-shirts and stuff. And Rick, you know, did that, and it was Rick and Paul Vaughn, yeah, Travis Ochap, Derek Veltry. Big shout outs to all them guys. Uh Mike Stokes, Dan O'Hara, who's actually, you know, up in uh Canada now, I believe. Hell yeah. But um, yeah, it was a it was a good little solid team, and we got to do some minor traveling and met a lot of people through you know traveling with those guys and everything. Like first couple of trips, I went to Charleston, was with those guys, and that's that was a whole crazy ass scene they had going on at the time up there with uh little skate mafia dudes, the real, not the bullshit. Yeah, out west.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I hear you. I hear you. Suits and tie guys, all right? Yeah, that mafia was ows.
SPEAKER_01No, they definitely, I mean, they've got a still a strong scene up there going from what I what I can tell. I mean, they got that DIY spot under the bridge. Team Payne just built that huge park a couple years ago.
SPEAKER_05If I ever moved, I would move to Charleston.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it's beautiful up there. I've only been up there a couple of times, but I've I've always enjoyed it up there.
SPEAKER_03Dude, I just seen a bail recently in uh your homie's pool up there that you always skate. Otis? Yeah, Otis's pool. I just seen some dude bail hard as fuck. You like they had like a chair like on the deep end, and he just like ran and tried to like jump on it and then jump back in and just hung up and went all the way down to flat. Oh shit was nasty. I was like, oh god.
SPEAKER_05Fuck around.
SPEAKER_03Fuck around and find out. Hell yeah. That's actually a segment we have on the show. No, wait, wait, we have to.
SPEAKER_01Anyway, it's interesting. Yeah, for sure, for sure. Um, so when did you uh when did you turn pro?
SPEAKER_05I got it like I skated for a really long time before I even thought about sponsors or anything like that. I was kind of coming up through what I kind of call the dead years of skating. Yeah, yeah. Small pants, yeah, yeah, or big wheels. Yeah, yeah, yeah, small wheels. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Lots of pressure flips. Looked like you were a pool skater, but you've just been doing pressure flips. Hell yeah. Half your nose was filed out of 45 from scooping. But yeah, during those times, it was just weird. There, the industry was small, you know, and everything, and vert was dying out. That's when I was actually trying to learn to skate vert. Steve Workman, he lives down in Cocoa now, he had a vert ramp in St. Mary's where I grew up, and it was like 16 feet wide, uh, nine foot trannies with a foot of Vert, had PVC coping on one side. Oh shit. We took a keyhole saw and did like little vertical slits in it. So a little resistance, a little resistance.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, because man, whatever we could, you know.
SPEAKER_05That PVC had metal coping. You'll rock the fakie and eat shit on the PVC. Super thin steel. It was like, I think it was 16 gauge steel. We couldn't really countersync it, we had to kind of dimple it. Oh wow. You know, and you would catch some on your knee slides and everything. But it was it was cool learning, you know.
SPEAKER_01That's where I learned the basics and stuff. Man, sometimes like I mean, skating the jankiest shit's really how you get good. When you skate everything that's perfect all the time, dude. I fucking hate when you're you know what I mean? Like it's it's you skate the janky shit and you get you learn some tricks on something really sketchy. I mean, you know, that's that's me personally, that's where I really see a lot of progress. When I go skate, you know, the perfect parks, they're a lot of fun, there's a lot of cool features and everything like that. But dude, like if you go skate flossy, you know what I mean? The DIY spots where it's super janky, and like, yeah, you learn how to kind of uh adapt, if you will.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, you that's and with a lot of things, you know. I mean, like all kinds of other sports and stuff. I mean, look at Kelly Slater. He grew up surfing Florida waves. Oh, yeah, shitty waves, shitty waves, man. Like everywhere he goes, he appreciated every good thing, and it made him just become way, you know, actually next level. But people that grew up skating Kona, even like we went out west when the when the concrete skate park started booming, like out in Colorado and Oregon and stuff. And a lot of those people weren't used to big concrete stuff yet, even though it was different, you know, the more of a modern style and everything now. Right, right. And they're like, why are all you guys from Jacksonville? Like, you don't even give a shit. You just haul ass. You can't. Yeah. And we're like, well, this is what we grew up on. Yeah. Even the street kids know how to bomb our concrete around there and stuff.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. It's it's cool. So actually, I do have a story about Kelly Slater that I just learned heard about. Okay. So on the Pam Anderson uh documentary, uh, apparently when her and Tommy Lee went down to fucking Mexico and ended up getting married after knowing each other for like three days, she was supposed to come back and go to Kelly Slater's and meet Kelly Slater's parents because she they were dating at the time.
SPEAKER_01Ha ha ha ha. Lost her to old Tommy Lee. I think I recall hearing about that. Yeah. Well, you know, shit happened. But no, speaking about Kona Man fucking, I had that uh 8103 poster review with the fucking blown on the tombstone for I just still have it folded up somewhere. Like, you know, the corners are all fucked up because it's been put up and taken down so many times.
SPEAKER_05That that was just over the years moving. That was kind of weird seeing all of those. Yeah, I can imagine. I watched a surf expo and he spent like 10 grand on real estate on those, and they were all the way down the corridor before you even go in. And I was just like, this is kind of embarrassing.
SPEAKER_04Bro, that's okay.
SPEAKER_05Well, the little picture on the side, we took like a hundred headshots or whatever for stuff advertising, and he picked the tough guy looking cheesy as one. I was like, oh shit.
SPEAKER_01God damn it. What he didn't pick the one with you in a gig? Like ninja.
SPEAKER_05No, you know, just a you know, tough guy showed up, squint eye, sort of, you know, flex the forearm a little.
SPEAKER_03You're looking at it, you're like, I I wouldn't kick my own ass for that picture.
SPEAKER_01Definitely. Yeah, so
Martial Arts And Skateboarding Control
SPEAKER_01I I made that reference because a lot of people don't know that you got into martial arts young, and and I mean you you you are uh pretty accomplished in in the martial arts, correct?
SPEAKER_05Yes, yeah. Um well I was kind of my dad was taking karate before I was born, and I had teenage parents, uh, you know, high school parents. Yeah. Um by the time I was born, my dad had just gotten his black belt. So I grew up getting in trouble playing with stuff while class was going on until I was old enough to be put in class. Hell yeah. And then I did that up till I was about 14, maybe something like that. But that was pretty cool. That was the first time I got to fly on a plane and stuff. I got to go to the U.S. Junior Olympics three different years. So that's very cool. It did tremendously help with skateboarding, all the same muscle memory and footwork and everything like that.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, just like center of balance, you know what I mean? Kind of center of gravity and your balance. I mean, you know, I'm sure that definitely kind of correlated. And knowing how to like consciously think because I mean it's skateboarding when you're trying to learn something, you know, and then it's like, okay, you give it a couple attempts, and you're like, oh, well, I need to lean a little bit more this way. And then you realize once you're leaning a little bit more that way, it's like, oh, I need to put my foot more this way, you know what I mean? Being very aware of the minute adjustments, you know what I mean? I'm sure that martial arts helped out a lot with that because there's a lot of well the way the way you try to help somebody like try to figure out a trick.
SPEAKER_05I mean, everybody skates their own way. You can't tell somebody how to skate, but you can make suggestions on stuff, and because of that karate background, I enjoy doing that. I wish somebody would tell me that when I'm struggling on a trick or something. We used to have like when we would film back in the day, we had VHS camcorders. We had to wait to get home to see what we were doing wrong or something. Or like, why couldn't I, you know, and oh, that's it, and sit there and analyze it just like we watch skate videos. You watch how perfect their foot placement is. Oh, yeah. That shit, we didn't have none of that shit back then. You just learned how to flip it and hope both feet landed on it.
SPEAKER_01You had no idea what you look like, you just know that you rolled away. Yeah, or you didn't. I wasn't holding my tongue right.
SPEAKER_03Little inside baseball talk, though. I actually did meet Tim Sensei. Oh, cool. His master.
SPEAKER_05Oh, that was about the same day that you killed me almost.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah. Oh, well, yeah, then there's that scene. Oh, yeah, no, yeah. I remember hearing about this one. This was when Chris was working for you, right? And he was holding something up with us.
SPEAKER_05We were framing out a uh front porch and we were setting a header beam. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. He was supporting it on one side and I was walking it up on the other, and he got buckly and it came off. I was like, I was like, dude, I'm losing, I'm losing. I've still got a knot in the back of my head from this.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, this is right before Levi was born. I thought I'd like killed Tim. I was like, I gotta be the guy that kills Tim Johnson, dude. This is not oh god, damn it.
SPEAKER_05Hell yeah. Um, we went to lunch one of those days right then, and um we're standing, it's like a KFC Taco Bell combo over there.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, right over there by where you're gonna go.
SPEAKER_05And I turned around and there was my grandmaster. Like, I didn't take his class. We had to go to black belt class like once every three months or whatever, as part of being a senior belt or whatever. And uh I hated it too, because if it was brutal, he walked around with a wood sword. Oh shit, and pop your leg if you weren't in a perfect stance and stuff like that, you know. So yeah, yeah. And my dad was in there and he was getting it too. So it's kind of cool.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, it's kind of cool.
SPEAKER_05So, but um, no, it was it was cool. Uh it caught me off guard a little bit, and Chris about shit himself. He thought something was wrong with me. I did. Oh, a master pack.
SPEAKER_04Oh, I love it. And I bowed to him and everything. Chris was like, What the fuck's going on there?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, like I dude, I've known Tim for so long and a bunch of like you know, a bunch of different experiences, and then like I Saw him like turn into like a little kid, and it's like, the fuck is happening right now. Like he goes, he got like giddy. He's like, uh, I've I've never seen that from him.
SPEAKER_05He barely remembered me, he remembered my dad and stuff. Right, right, right.
SPEAKER_03He was beating the fuck out of my father, though.
SPEAKER_01It was like, Oh, I remember you and your wooden sword, sir. Show proper respect. Um, let me ask you this. Uh, because I know you're in the trades, now you're mainly doing Thailand stuff, and you know, you you just talked about the day that Chris almost killed you.
Trades, Punk, And Finding Kona
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Um, when did you get into uh into construction in the trades?
SPEAKER_05Um, kind of almost right out of high school. I tried a couple of the fast food joints. And my very first job while I was in high school is part-time, I was like a sophomore, I think, and it was at a tropical fish store, and I just had to clean the tanks. And that was cool. It was my neighbor's yeah business, so pretty by the high school. Oh, yeah. And so I could just ride my bike or skateboard from over there. That sounds like a perfect job for a pothead.
SPEAKER_01Just fucking burn a bowl in the city.
SPEAKER_06I wasn't in your smoking weed at that time.
SPEAKER_01Oh, that would have that would have been me.
SPEAKER_05High school, I was definitely burning down Babylon. I was still goody two shoes, karate skater guy, like pretty jocked out with it. I hear you.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, when I moved to Jacksonville, I kinda that's I kind of that's when I started getting turned out, if you will. It was like I I moved into the uh neighborhood over off Pablo Point, met some kids, you know, got taken to Kona, got introduced kind of surfing, shit like that, got introduced to weed.
SPEAKER_05Well, my buddy that actually introduced me into skating, introduced me into punk rock and everything too. Yeah. All at once, my friend Ashley Chavis. Um I visited him last year in um he lives in Oxford, Mississippi. Oh, really? We stopped through there and uh checked out that gnarly old grind line park that they have. Oh yeah, it was hotter than fuck that day. I mean, we were you know stayed up the night before. We went out there and sweated out for the city. I was about to say sweating out. Yeah, that was about it. I mean, that park was it was haggard.
SPEAKER_01I mean, I'm sure it was really good at one point, but it's weathered now. And I mean, even when they're new, those grind line parks are fucking gnarly, dude. Well, this is one of this is early days of grindline.
SPEAKER_05So this this park was probably built maybe before Atlantic Beach Park here. Okay. So it was back then. They've got a cradle and everything there. It's sick, pretty gnarly, but um, it's a lot of the coping and stuff, and the shallow end, the mini-ramp area, it's like seven foot. It's got a foot of earth. The shallow end seven foot. Yeah. Wow. It's like a big flow bowl area, and yeah, like some little street stuff scattered on the outside. But I mean, it's definitely a way older design, but it's gnarly. Fun to roll.
SPEAKER_03It's not a shallow end.
SPEAKER_01Let me just so hot that day I couldn't really Oh, dude, especially if you've been out the night before.
SPEAKER_05Well, we'd we would uh Toothless and uh my buddy Doug um I know Doug we went on. May Porch?
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_05I know Doug. I worked with him for a while. Okay, yeah. I grew up with him in St. Mary's, too. Yeah, I remember hearing this story. He was the first guy I saw Ollie into a back of a pickup, actually, back in the day, right? When the noses barely started turning up, and I was like, how the fuck did he just do that?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I worked with him. Uh uh I worked I worked for Ernie for a couple years. Well, that's what I was working with.
SPEAKER_03Uh what was that first person you seen do what?
SPEAKER_05Ollie into the back of a pickup?
SPEAKER_03A pickup uh pickup truck? Yeah, yeah. Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_05Okay, down Ollie into the back. Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_01We actually my first truck was uh little as Suzu, 1993 is Suzu pickup truck, the extended cab where the back window went down further than the front window, so it looked like a fucking space shuttle. It was wiped. But it's so I had it all stickered out and shit. And you know, BJs, they got the loading dock. So we remember when they first put in the BJs and before they put the fences up. So we used to take my truck over there, I had bolted down a piece of angle iron to the tailgate. So when you drop the tailgate, it was like perfect. So we would drop my tailgate, I'd park parallel to it, we'd skate out of it like a fucking bump delivery.
SPEAKER_05Oh, nice, right? We're side rails in. Yeah, it was perfect there all the time.
SPEAKER_01It was perfect, yeah. I tuck them out all the time. That's one of the like the that was oh man, I skated there so much.
SPEAKER_05They're still pretty cleaned out, too. They keep it kind of tidy back there, but I don't know the plus factor.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Oh, yeah, I haven't skated there in fucking probably 15 years. Yeah, but um, just talk going back to thinking about that uh, you know, early days, me skating, man. I remember
Kona Legends And A Blind Gap
SPEAKER_01watching you skate, Kona, growing up when I was working there as a teenager with my sister and stuff, and like, bro, when they had the big street course, the little street course, watching you, Paul Vaughn, I mean you already mentioned a couple of them, oh Travis Ochab. I'm watching all y'all skate Virg. That was fucking mind-blowing to me. You know what I mean? Like, y'all were when I was growing up as a teenager, like you guys, Peterson, y'all were like uh the the the on the wall of like my heroes, if you will. Yeah, I was like, I'd never seen anybody skate like y'all. I remember watching you, I don't even know if you remember doing it. You they took down the two handrails. It was one contester Ven at Kona, and it was when they had the big street course and the mini street course, and they took down the two handrails, and in your run, you fucking come, and I don't remember I you you rolled up the bank, I think, and Ollie'd from the deck into the mini street course, into the little bank.
SPEAKER_05Do you remember what I'm talking about? I didn't see that. That was a crown ad for that from my very first board from Crown. It was hard.
SPEAKER_03I see, yeah, I remember seeing that, dude.
SPEAKER_01I was there at that contest. Yeah, I was I I mean too. I was like, what the fuck? Like, we were I remember joking around as kids watching it, and I was like, the handrails were up. We're like, oh, look at this step up, and then actually seeing you do it. You know, that's just being us little local skate rats there, like, oh, wouldn't it be cool Tony Hawk Pro Skater had just come out, you know? We're playing the video game and doing all these lines that we think aren't possible, and one of them being you like literally did in a contest right.
SPEAKER_05You can't see where you were going with it, though. You had to I had to have somebody stand, and I knew that I had to be like two paces the quarter eye to them. I can't remember who was standing there for me. I think it was Joey Corey, maybe. Because he was like, You got spotted like a gap. You know, he's like, I use a piece of trash and put it where I know I need to Ollie from on gaps, I can't see where I'm going. I'm like, he's like, it's no different. Right.
SPEAKER_01So I was like, oh, okay. Those listening that have never seen what we're talking about, it was like this massive kind of bank and then a deck up there, and the four by four posts on the back end of the decking held up a guardrail. So they took that guardrail down because on the opposite side was basically an identical version of the street course just on a miniature scale. So he went from this area though that wasn't perfectly lined up because of the quarter pipe being there. If you miss time, that like, and even that, the bank was so steep and so small, like that was just fucking crazy to me, bro. Yeah, of all the things I've seen over the, I'll just let you know that's like one of the things that have stuck out in my mind. No, uh Jim, I forgot all about that.
SPEAKER_03No, Tim, is you I didn't clearly that was a fun one, though.
SPEAKER_05I think they did it for a bike. Uh, I think there was some guys filming there a couple of weeks or like a week before that, and that's where they took them down, and then they took them back down again because possibly because eyeballed it.
SPEAKER_01That was around the time I remember they did a bike event there, and like I think Dave Mirror and them came out. I remember they like it was that one yeah.
SPEAKER_05I was still living in the Kona trailer when they had the mirror thing. Actually, no, I might have just moved out at that point, but I remember uh Benji was there also helping in uh Dave Ellis brother. Yeah, um, he was there building uh some temporary ramps in the street course
Swamp Fest Energy And DIY Mindset
SPEAKER_05area. Yeah, yeah. And we did the dirt jumps and stuff, and that's when they had that big giant roll-in. Yeah, and you know, it was where the bowl is now, pretty much. And yeah, that was fun, man. Um, actually, I blew my knee up riding um the compactor, the big steamroller, packing in all that dirt from the vibrator on the wheel. Really? And it aggravated everything in my knee, and it got a big fever in it. I had to go have it drained. Gnarly. I wasn't even skating. That's from skating, but yeah, but yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Damn, that's brutal. Yeah, that is brutal. Yeah, they actually got dirt jumps back out there now because they just did a uh Florida Swamp Fest kind of event uh a few weeks back. Those swamp fests are sick. I was about to say, have you checked that out yet? I've just seen the video. Me too. I want to go down there though. That's what I'm saying. It looks like my kind of time for sure. Uh huh. Um, I know I think uh the next event is coming up in uh two weeks, maybe. I think it's the end of this month. Uh what eventona? Uh no, no, the Florida Swamp Fest. Maybe it might be happening this weekend. I've seen them doing a lot of prep on their social media lately.
SPEAKER_05I get jealous of bikes because of shit like that, though, because they can ride so much stuff that we can't, and they've got a broader you know, view of the way we look at landscape and everything at skateboarders. You're really limited. Yeah, you are. Yeah. I mean, I watch golf here and there, and I'm looking at a sandbarker going, man, if that thing was concrete, I'd be fucking sick.
SPEAKER_01So I got a new appreciation for golf now, dude. A couple of comments on that. You know, the way that they ride, honestly, yeah, and the way that they build shit, because when they did come out to Kona, they made this like wall ride that went the pit around the pit wall, okay? And they were hoppy, it was like semi-curved. It was all out of particle board down. Yeah, I remember that.
SPEAKER_05Swamp fest, that's that's what I was saying. That's what I was getting to. Like random. I saw the loot made out of pallets. Exactly. That's what I knew.
SPEAKER_04Shit. Like, I was like, man, it's on a whole nother level for sure. Yeah, for sure.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Um, and damn, I can't remember my fucking second point on that. Weed's a hell of a drug. Cocaine's a hell of a drug. No, but um, got some coffee if you want a hippie speedball. Brother, I was hippie speedballing when I pulled up. Um, but yeah, no, uh, let me ask you uh, you know, about about uh actually, let's let's take a break real quick because my next thing I feel like we're gonna uh get into uh probably some lengthy stories. So we're gonna take a quick break.
SPEAKER_03Oh, I gotta I got one question I think we should ask before the break. Okay, what's it? Is it true that you jumped the Great Well of China for day anyway? No.
SPEAKER_04Chris is just being a fucking joker. All right, we'll be back with you guys.
Parents, Trouble, And Ramp Life
SPEAKER_01Hey-o, so my dude, what's up? What was it like growing up? Okay, because I mean I hear, you know, reflecting on what you're talking about earlier, your your dad was in the martial arts. I know you said they're like teen kind of parents, but for me, skateboarding was kind of a riff in like skating in general, like just kind of with my father, because I grew up doing team sports with him, and then he didn't understand it. It was like I'm listening to punk and hip-hop, and it was like, what is smoking weed? And I was like, Oh fuck, what's happening to my kid? Did you ever have like was your parents like super accepting of skating, or was there kind of like some teenage? No, not if not not for a while.
SPEAKER_05My mom was okay with it for a while, but I mean, the whole punk rock lifestyle that we were just a bunch of junkies sitting in a trailer shooting up or something like that. Never amounting nothing. They didn't look past the the creative aspect of you know doing something for yourself, not needing a team, right? But having more camaraderie. I mean, with skateboarders, even in contest, you know, you're trying to win, but you're rooting for your buddies at the same time. Just because you love it so much, you want to see everybody do good. You know, you're like, I want to win, but if you need to get to it's cool. Yeah, there's a happy medium with everything, though. That's what I kind of tried to find and relate to my skating from other things like that, you know.
SPEAKER_01For sure. Yeah, I I uh I was fortunate that you know, when I did first move here, like summer before eighth grade and going to Kona first, my mom met Mrs. Ramos, mom Ramos, grandma Ramos, and uh that kind of helped her see the side of like, oh, this old guidance counselor school teacher, this is so that I think that helped a little bit. So my mom, I think it skateboarding grew on her much quicker than it did my dad, where my dad was just working all the time, and then I'm like, I quit playing basketball, I quit playing hockey, like I'm getting suspended from school. He's like, What the fuck? Exactly. Same thing here, man. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_05They started seeing us get in a little bit of trouble for skating, and you know, cops bring us home or whatever, try to take our boards and trespassing, and yeah. It was still Southeast Georgia, you know, and there wasn't a lot to skate, but there was, you know, we have a couple of cool spots up there actually. Yeah, yeah, you've shown me a few of the spots up there, but I mean, you know, we got hassled everywhere, or good old boys would hassle us, which I'm friends with half of those guys now. Buddy, I'll outfish you. Yeah. Hell yeah. But um, yeah, it was, you know, they started seeing us like that's that's kind of why I became more of a ramp skater. I mean, it's really flat terrain in the southeast, you know, for sure. And it takes land elevation to create a lot of street spots. Yeah. I always got jealous of seeing California spots and how perfect they were, and you know, that picnic table's the size of my coffee table. And like, like, you know, everything's like made for it. Yeah, and it was just a little rougher here. Every gap had a curb in front of it, or just you know, something it was almost spots. Right. So we started building our own ramps and stuff, and we started skating ramps, and you know, that came over. Yeah. But they started seeing us be creative with that and learning how to do it for ourselves because we didn't have any of these places to go to. And Conan was the only place close enough, and nobody wanted to drive to Jacksonville back then. They're like, hell no, I ain't taking you all the way to Jacksonville.
SPEAKER_03Gas is $1.75. I'm not driving all the way to Jacksonville. It was cheaper than that back then.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it was much cheaper than that back then, I'm sure. But and then and then, yeah, you'd factor in admission, you know, on top of that. I mean, yeah, I can understand that being hard.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, and then having to go get picked up later as well.
SPEAKER_01Like, yep, yeah, for sure.
SPEAKER_05Well, normally they would drop us, they'd drop us off at Kona, and Regency was kind of like a big thing. Regency was the hub. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So they're gonna pop the mall for a while and then not buy us shit. Come back with a bunch of boxes. What did I get? Nothing. You got to go to Kona. Okay. Yep, fair enough.
SPEAKER_01Fair tread. Yeah, shit. Even when we first moved to Jacksonville in like uh 98, I mean, Regency was still the hub.
SPEAKER_03Now it's you know, I remember walking around Regency still in middle school and shit, hanging out, walking around just to go, not buying shit, just everybody met up there for some odd reason.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, there's uh like nothing in there anymore. Not a goddamn thing. I have no idea what they're gonna do with it, but they gotta do something. The only thing really in there is cop station. Yeah. Uh they have like a dentist place in there, and then they uh dentist office now. Okay.
SPEAKER_05Parking garage always had a curb. We skated it for years.
SPEAKER_03And then even on top, you can like to the rail.
SPEAKER_05It's wide enough to manual, but I don't know. It was just a little bit taller than a normal curve. Yeah, we always skip that all the time.
SPEAKER_01I had a little flat bar that we used to take out there all the time. And honestly, even when I was working at Kona as a teenager, a lot of times when it would rain out, we'd have to close the park. We'd take the flat bars from there, go over there, and then bring them back when we were done. Um but uh yeah, no, the I think what you're talking about is like the roof.
SPEAKER_03The Bank of America. The roof part?
SPEAKER_01Yeah. And then the the rail that's over the like the stairs.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, and then you can yeah, and then there's uh uh that right under it's the uh manual pad and stuff.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, inline skaters used to skate that rail like Tyler Shields. He he used to skate that rail all the time. That was the first time I seen that rail. I think George Evans did too. Good possibility. Um anyway, uh wanted to ask you about your traveling.
Favorite Parks And First Big Trips
SPEAKER_01Because obviously, I mean you've been able to take some trips. I guess first, before we get into traveling stories, what would you say your favorite skate park is in the period?
SPEAKER_05Um It might not be the best park, but I skated this park in Australia. It was called Five Block. Sweet. And it's just kind of like a big flow bowl, and it's built around an old 70s park that had this little old rough snake run and one of the half full pipes.
SPEAKER_01Oh, cool, like a true half pipe, no flat bottom. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_05It was that, and they built a I think it was like a grind line design or something. I don't know if the grind line did it though, but just every line in that park just matched up and lined up so good. It was like it was a little bigger than Atlantic Beach, I guess. You know, maybe a little bit more than that, but it was kind of rode the same way as far as one big flow kind of bowl. But I don't know, that one was really freaking fun, man. Hell yeah. Let me ask you this. What's your favorite park in Florida? My favorite park in Florida. Well, see, I haven't been to some of the new ones yet. I've been in dad mode. Yeah, no, I haven't been skateboarding or hattling as much, man. I can relate. I can relate. So I'll have to have to get back on that one.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Chris, you want to add something?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, uh, Tim, you having younger parents and everything. I remember you telling me something about I think it was your stepdad and uh what he did for a living and everything, which always is like stuck out to me.
SPEAKER_05Uh, the comedian?
SPEAKER_03There we go.
SPEAKER_05Oh, yeah, because we all know Chris loves to joke. I got to go on the road with him one time when I was 15, and that's when I learned to drive stick shift. He let me drive his Toyota all the way up to Virginia Beach, and he was doing a comedy zone. He was the opener guy and introduced all the different people and everything. And um we did went to the comedy zone, and I got to go skate trash more. Cool. I got some pictures in my old picture album. I mean, and that was in the I remember my board and everything. I was riding uh it was an Everslick Gershawn Mosley. Oh, hell yeah, hell yeah, Gershawn's it was right when they got popsicle stick shaped. They stopped having the actual shapes, you know. So through that time, and all that was there was the older vert ramp and this little 12-foot-wide mini ramp. And but uh it was really cool getting to go there, and I got to skate uh Lynnhaven and Red Wing Park. All had ramps and stuff. Uh, I think Red Wing had like an eight and a half foot ramp. Was it all right? And they were all blue steel, just like Trashmore used to be. Uh Lynnhaven Park was a smaller vert ramp, but it looked exactly like Trashmore. Hell yeah. And that was that was pretty cool. They were all like in parking lots of parks except for Trashmore itself. It was at the hill, you know. Hell yeah. Are they still around or are they long gone? Uh those ramps are gone, but Trashmore has a new vert ramp. Yeah, no trash more. He's been killing it. I just watched a clip from him this morning, actually, of him just owning it. Hell yeah. That's what's up. That's where Julian grew up, too.
SPEAKER_01Oh yeah, no, yeah, yep, yeah. We look Jude, dude. Big shout out to him, yeah. Jute. Yeah, I think he just had a buddy it looked like that was visiting from uh Virginia Beach. I saw he posted some clips. Um but Chris, what'd you what do you have to add?
SPEAKER_03Oh no, no, no. I was I was just bringing up the comedy thing because uh he told me the story.
SPEAKER_05Okay, now I thought you said I totally got on trash for him. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03No, that's cool because I definitely Yeah, that was like the thing because I knew you told me that story that he went and then got a skate on.
SPEAKER_01So basically what you're telling me is when you heard his stepdad was a comedian, that's what made you change the direction in your life. He's like, I know what I'm gonna do, I know my purpose now. This could be a job. Well, there well, there was that in Uncle Diddle, so there you go. So uh let's talk about your travels, man. How like how I mean you've been to Australia, you said, like, I mean Yeah, that was a that was in my top all time, of course. We're in Australia.
SPEAKER_05I mean that's uh we went to New Zealand for the first week. We went to Wellington and it was the Bowl of Rama contest series, and then the Bondi contest was next. That was the year I was actually going to all the World Cup events and stuff. Oh yeah. And uh got the opportunity to go out there and it was just amazing, man. The people are actually really nice out there.
SPEAKER_01I was gonna ask because I always like to say this with my wife that like I feel like if you take like your standard Florida person and your standard Australian person and put them in you know side by side and don't tell which is which, you could kind of tell you you wouldn't be able to tell.
SPEAKER_05Mix a little Texas in there. Yeah, mixed a little Texas, maybe. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I definitely feel like that. They're like a Texan version of English.
SPEAKER_01You gotta have a bunch of a little bit of Mississippi's in there somewhere. You know, yeah, some some kind of crazy. You see some mullets, you see some, you know, a bunch of baggies and bikinis and areas and stuff, and uh rat rad surfers.
SPEAKER_05And I'll tell you a cool story about when I was in Bondi. Okay, um, paint the picture, bowls on the beach, topless beach, by the way. You come home, you come home kind of craving tan lines a little bit. I mean, all of a sudden you're hot again because you've seen too many without people. But um at the end of the contest, um uh there was a local guy, skater, lived right down the hill you could bomb from our hotel halfway down to the bowl, and he had tattoo studios set up in his uh house. Cool, cool, cool, and all this old skate memorabilia and Everything and um I set up a little tattoo. Chris then doodled me up a little one because he was doing tattoo, he was just starting out at the time, but he couldn't bring his stuff with him all the way to Australia. Right, right. And uh he kind of sketched it up for me, and I took it over to the guy and um Lester Kasai that I was gonna go get one. He's like, Hey, can I go get a tattoo with you? And I was just like, No way, dude. Let's let go. So me and Lester went, and uh he wound up getting a big one. He met his wife that day in the tattoo place. Yeah, that day. Yeah, she was from Germany or something like that. Like blonde hair chick. I don't even remember her name, really, but I think the last name was. Yeah, they're pretty cool. They've been together since, I guess. That's cool, man. That's rad. But yeah, um, he got a bigger one, and I went back to the beach. It was like the last day barbecue on the beach, and we were all hanging out. They're like, Where's Lester? I was like, Oh, he'll be a while, and he came back, he was so pale, he then like they wore his ass out like four hours straight or something. Where do you where do you get it at?
SPEAKER_01It's like some big koi fish thing that he got on his arm right here. And it doesn't matter where you get it. I mean, some obviously some spots hurt more than others, but man, if you spend any amount of time, it's just like your endorphins are dumping. You're just I mean, you are exhausted.
SPEAKER_04I was in and out with a look little quick 40-minute one, you know.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah, for sure. I fucking hated getting my torso done, dude.
SPEAKER_05Tattoos like that are kind of like stamps and still got like 10 to 15 hour grief on it.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and that's actually anytime people ask me about meaning, because I've got a bunch of silly tattoos, and like, you know, some have meanings, some are like cool things, but no matter what, they're just every one is kind of a bookmark of a chapter in my life. Like, I look at them and I remember, I'm like, oh, I remember I was fucking around during that. Oh, I was turning my life around during that. Oh, that was a fun time. You know what I mean? Exactly. So like it hits you like music does sometimes. Yeah, for sure.
SPEAKER_03For sure. I just like making up stories for shit for some of mine. Bro, people are like, Why do you have a Pringles guy tattooed?
SPEAKER_05Actually, my stepson tattooed the cat dog on you.
SPEAKER_01Oh, yeah, yes, that's all yeah, big shout out. Our dog. So I got patients tattooed across my knuckles, and I was uh waiting tables at the time, and it was this little uh sweet table of like three old ladies and this older dude, and look clearly like they came straight from church. Real timid, real quiet, and they were real nice, get to the end of the meal, and they're like, So, Paul, who's Patty? And I'm like, what? And they're like, and point to my knuckles, and I'm like, PH, I'm like, one thinking, that's not even how you spell Patty. I was like, oh, Patty's my girlfriend, and Nietzsche's my wife.
SPEAKER_06I just oh shit.
SPEAKER_01And I was like, and they all like the women just kind of went, oh, and the and the man fucking picked up that I was joking. But they were probably in their 70s, maybe 80s. They're long gone by now, but yeah, talking about making up stupid shit.
SPEAKER_03Oh, dude, it's like uh oh, my stomach, I have thrash life across it. And ironically enough, I was wearing my Tupac shirt the day I got it. I almost got thug life. I was this close to doing it.
SPEAKER_01I got thug life, but uh thug across my thug and life across my feet. And the funny thing is, my wife's got it too.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, because of those travels you were talking about, I don't have as many tattoos, I couldn't afford them. Yeah, that'd save my money up so I could go on these trips. Most of them were some ramen noodle camping, the you know, on the side of the road type trips.
SPEAKER_01But I was fortunate to befriend guys that became tattoo artists, and as I became a carpenter, it was the barter system's alive and well. Yeah, if I had to pay and not actually like build porches and hang doors and stuff for my friends, like I would not have this much, you know, this much ink for sure. Yeah, but um so other than Australia, where else? Like, let's I mean, let's start list list off the countries you've been to.
SPEAKER_05I mean, I haven't been to too many different countries. I mean, I've
Scandinavia Tours And Midnight Sun
SPEAKER_05been to Scandinavia four times. So the bacon skateboards um had uh a big distributor out of Stockholm. Cool, still fish distribution or whatever, and every year they would have the Malmo Ultra Bowl, which used to be in Marseille. It used to be the big Marseille. Yeah, the Marseille Francina, but they moved it to Malmo, which is in the southern end of Sweden, right across the bay from Copenhagen. So it's pretty sick right there. That's a whole little happening area, and it's big on my bucket list. That was that was cool going up there because it was like kind of it's like the same parallel as Alaska. So in the summertime, it hardly gets dark. Wow. It you'll go into a bar at 11 at night, and it's looks like sunset, and it might get dark for like two or three hours, and then you come back out and it's light again. It's just kind of weird. I was about to say, how does that fuck with your psyche, bro? I mean, I learned how to sleep with my beanie pulled down over my face.
SPEAKER_01I would definitely have to get a sleep mask or something. Holy shit. Pillow over my face. So um ask, I mean, food-wise, culture-wise, over there, because they got some interesting dishes. I mean, what it was it like eating Scandinavian food?
SPEAKER_05Um, because I mean I went to the city. We went out to the country this one day. This guy had a little mini ramp and he lived uh out in the country. It was Swedish country. I don't even know where it was. It was up. You probably couldn't pronounce the town name anyway. It's Viking Land. Viking land, gotcha.
SPEAKER_03We do a lot of battle.
SPEAKER_05And we did all their traditional ways of you know just having a big barbecue and everything, skate jam and stuff, and they uh have what I thought I was eating actual seal, but they just call it seal, and it was pickled herring. And you put them on a cracker and take a shot of vodka. Yeah, I know they eat a lot of herring, but they lay out a bunch of crawfish, they call them crayfish, what it's some people still do here or whatever, but uh you let them thaw out, they don't boil them, they thaw out the room temperature, and while they're thawing out, all you're eating all these other cheeses and crackers and shit like that, and getting drunk. And then when those are ready, they were like, Okay, the crayfish are ready, and they saw me grab one, pinch the head, suck the juice out, and they were like, How do you know how to do that? Like I said, we have mud bugs where I live. Come on, like from the cell. I'll love me some crawl dads.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, hell yeah. River roaches. Yeah, man. Um, yeah, I've I've definitely obviously with the explosion of skateboarding internationally and all the cool events that they've got going over. I definitely want to go check out Copenhagen. But it's just something very like interesting about the the cultures that live in those super harsh environments and have like thrived for centuries, is very fascinating.
SPEAKER_05Like Alaska's big on my bucket list, you know, like northern parts of Canada, like just well, it takes a mentality to you gotta be used to living in a place like that because a lot of depression happens during the wintertime when it's the opposite. When it's all dark, it stays dark, yeah, except for three hours. Yeah, you barely get some daylight. So when we were over there, it was always in the late summer, you know, and actually midsummer, because before midsummers, which is like their fourth of July. Yeah. Uh the temperature over there was like you needed a hoodie. Even in the summer? No, during the day, you the sun would come out sometimes, but it would stay kind of cloudy, like kind of like today is almost, but not this humid. Not this humidity.
SPEAKER_03Were you in Anchorage or did y'all like travel?
SPEAKER_05Oh, not in Alaska. We were in Sweden. Oh it's on the same parallel as that far north. Oh, yeah. I was making a reference on how you know it gets dark early in Alaska. I got you. Here, hit that thing again. Um, but yeah, it was like they everybody was really excited when we were there because it was their you know fun time of the year, and mid-summers their actual brightest day of the year. Everybody leaves the city, and we went out to these islands on these ferries, and they have all these like Viking festivities and stuff going on. And uh shit that they've been doing for thousands of years. Yeah, and they had this whole tribe of people, they had a big tug-of-war thing going on. Sick. And there was all the they were like, Just skateboard team, come come tug. We went over there. Hell yeah. And they were killing us. We all have these like flat skate shoes on, and we're just sliding, there's no grip.
SPEAKER_04He's like, You want us to send our wives over to help you guys out? Like, uh, that's funny. They were killing us, all these big Vikings there. I was like, Oh man. Oh, he was like, You want me to show you how to grow a real beard? You can't even play that. I've got some good Kowalski stories.
SPEAKER_05We get into those some other time, though. But oh yeah, that was his first time traveling out of the country, too. Hell yeah. He's going really well for himself, man. I'm yeah, he kills it, dude. Oh, big time, yeah. I call him, I used to call him the Eeyore of skateboarding.
SPEAKER_04So kind of chill. Thanks for noticing. My foot to the left and the right, and then I slap the tail down.
SPEAKER_01Hell yeah. Hell yeah. No, it's been a pleasure every time he comes into town for like when they've had like the bull riders' cup or just like random events, like thrashers come and you know, taking some photos. They talk about killing that cone of concrete, man.
SPEAKER_03Tim 80 shark 1080 shark?
SPEAKER_05Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03What'd
Mini Ramp Sessions And Getting Older
SPEAKER_03he pull on your ramp 720?
SPEAKER_05No, he dropped straight into a switch smith ground all the way across the ramp first wall. That's what he did. All right. Wow. Okay, and wait, yeah, it kind of confused me at first. I was like, wait, aren't you? Oh, you are okay.
SPEAKER_01Oh yeah, you are. Okay, that was switched. Yeah.
SPEAKER_05Dropped right in and damn. Hell yeah. It's fucking red. No, me and Julian and Doug were out there skating. We had just set the lights up that night was the first lights, first night I had the lights set up and everything. So hell yeah. It's pretty good down there though. Sometimes um when it the humidity settles in, even though it's steel. Yeah. It uh we've got a little bit of a tree canopy, so it keeps the dew from settling on it for a little longer.
SPEAKER_01Sweet. Yeah, no, man. I I love your ramp. Your ramp's like one of the best mini ramps, definitely around, because it's like definitely a nice height where it's it needs more attention. It's yeah, for sure.
SPEAKER_03It definitely gets skated more.
SPEAKER_01But it uh it's just like that nice height, whereas the older you get, man, running out of tall shit, bro. And I don't wear my knee pads enough. I really should.
SPEAKER_05Well, it's intimidating on one side because I mean, if nobody's ever been over here and you're listening, uh, my uh my backyard's on a hill, so yeah. One side of it's almost like skating the insta ramp. It's like waist high off of the ground, you're right, and then the height of the ramp. So when you're standing off the back, it feels like you're standing on an eight and a half foot, nine foot ramp, and it's just five and a half foot tall.
SPEAKER_03Man, I got fucked up on that ramp, dude.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, Chris, you asked for it on that one. Yeah. I want to film back to you, low to high back D on the extension. And then you came out and you tried to pull a Tom Shar, but your first wall wasn't so successful.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, as soon as I got up on it and I was about to go in, dude. I just fell straight to fucking flat. Oh, dude, he got served. Yeah, I filmed that one for you. I remember. And then broke a pair of glasses trying it too.
SPEAKER_01Oh god.
SPEAKER_03There's a whole it was a whole thing. I was like, why don't you take a run?
SPEAKER_05No, no, it's gotta happen like this.
SPEAKER_01It sounds very much like Chris. Yeah, I uh no man, I definitely gotta get warmed up. Man, I gotta stretch. That's one thing I I fucking tell my kids. I wish I would have done it more. Uh you know, I did it while I was playing team sports, but when I got out of that, I was like, you know, the reason why I'm into skateboard, fuck it, that's the antithesis. I don't need to stretch, and then I'm like 18 and fucking partying all night and trying to go skate, and now I'm you know about to be 38, and shit is very tight.
SPEAKER_0538, man, you got time. Oh no, I know, but you know, I've uh I'll be 46 in a couple of months.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I feel you. No, I feel you. I feel you. It's just uh I'll be 31 on March 2nd, in case anybody cares. Happy birthday. Happy birthday.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, there's my present to you right there, those Tupac socks. There you go, Tupac socks. Yeah, no, I'm not far behind you. I'm the 17th, St. Patty's Day.
SPEAKER_05We're getting lit. But speaking of all that travel, though, I just wanted to get back. I want to give a big shout out to Colin Sharp and Ethan Bethincourt.
SPEAKER_01Hell yeah.
SPEAKER_05Uh they're on bacon skateboards, and I mean, if it wasn't for them, I wouldn't have gone on any of those trips, really. You know, big shout out to all. I mean, they you know, all the way over there. They're out of Portland, Oregon now. They started in Cayus, California, which they still got a sick fucking ramp there. Hell yeah. And uh yeah, Colin's done a lot for me. He's a super rad dude. He's always had, you know, they're good boards, too, man. And he kept it core, he kept it underground. I love the skateboards. I skater for Crown, like I said, and their boards are made in Alabama.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_05So are Bacon's boards. So when I started skating for them, I just got a new paint job on the same exact report that I was riding.
SPEAKER_04So I've been riding the same boards for like 20 years now. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. And I love them.
SPEAKER_03That's fucking rad, man. To have like somebody like a kid coming from, you know, little of nowhere, Georgia. They're like, Well, we're taking him around the world like to have like to have that much like confidence in you.
SPEAKER_05Well, they pretty much uh put out a guest model for me. And they're like, Here, we're putting a board out for you, anyways. Hell yeah. And that was the one I had with Zeke on it. That was the bacon board and everything. I felt sweet. And on from there, and like I met a lot of good people through those guys and everything, and you know, Benji got me hooked up with them because he was already riding for bacon back then and everything. And oh yeah, did a lot of traveling with him and everything. Benji's originally from Texas, right? No, Benji is from Augusta. Oh, sorry, North Augusta, South Carolina. Okay, on that side, not Augusta, Georgia, same place. Gotcha. Split in the, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Split in the middle, yep. Um, so uh of all your travels across the states, um, you know, other than Georgia or Florida, what'd you say like your favorite place you've been?
SPEAKER_05Charleston, man. Charleston. I knew it's close and everything everywhere, but I mean, Charleston is a rad place. It still feels like home. Hell yeah. You know, I mean, my grand a lot of familiarities my grandmother's family's all from Charleston and everything. So I mean, I had family from there, and I've gone there as a kid and stuff, and I've just Bill Murray lives there. It's three and a half hours from Jacksonville, that's not too bad, and they've got a sick scene there, man. Yeah. And just uh I've got a lot of good friends that live there, and I mean, but other than that, you know, there's been there's been really good trips and fun places without the best stuff to skate, and then there's been places that had the absolute best stuff to skate, but the scene was kind of bland, you know. So it's just different. There's so much out there now. Like we used to have to get out the roadmap and plan which way we were gonna go so we could hit as many spots available and stuff.
SPEAKER_01Try to optimize, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_05Right, right. When you're going up through here, like if we were taking a trip to Skatopia or something like that, you know, and now there's so many options going up through there.
Skatopia Chaos And Bam’s Castle
SPEAKER_01So you've been up to Skatopia?
SPEAKER_05Uh, I been to Skatopia a few times.
SPEAKER_01Hell yeah. How about that? Uh it's pretty fun. Yeah. Uh Bruce is a pretty fucking gnarly crazy dude, huh?
SPEAKER_05Bruce is rad. Bruce actually used to have a sick backyard vert ramp here in Jacksonville.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I've heard.
SPEAKER_05I'm definitely, definitely aware. Um his kid Brandon, he he rips now, and I think he's pretty much uh that that barn ball running.
SPEAKER_01Is it as gnarly as it looks on video? Like that thing looks so fucking it is, it is.
SPEAKER_05You don't just like if you drop straight into the waterfall, right? You're going off, you know, the semi-trucks have the nose on, don't be there when they turn. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the nose on. You'll go out in the middle of nothing. It's uh six-foot wall. Right when it goes to flat, it goes to a seven-foot waterfall.
SPEAKER_06Oh shit.
SPEAKER_05So you gotta go sideways and come up it sideways, or you can even carve the front of the waterfall like double up in the deep end. Gnarly. But you have to go sideways through everything. Some people fly off of the waterfall all the way to bug on the windshield disaster and then shoot straight back down, and that's like one of the gnarliest fucking things.
SPEAKER_01Whoa, hell yeah. Fuck that's brutal. Yeah, that's fucking gnarly. See any uh cars burning or anything like that up there? Oh yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_05There's uh the 88 acres of anarchy. Yeah, I mean, is it like continuous mayhem like it's later in the year they filmed that? Sweet. Hell yeah. I saw Bam try to bring his crew up there the first year I was there, and we were staying on top of where the the bus bowl, the Lula bowl is with the cradle and everything. And before that was up there, we were camping up there. They got their uh budget U-Haul truck with all their shit in it stuck about halfway up.
SPEAKER_01Hell no.
SPEAKER_05And then it all the hecklers from around, here comes the Roman candles, the potato guns, just they paid Bruce to come up there and do that and everything. They didn't last the night. Wow, that's great. Up there to get like some film and make a bunch of money off of it or whatever. It was kind of in the earlier days.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, you know, kind of like when you first started doing the TV show.
SPEAKER_05I don't even think he had the castle or anything. Yeah. I've been there too. That was another story.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. But you know what? I think we have time.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. So when what what uh what year did you go up to the castle? Um, they remember the gravity games? Yeah, yeah. We've talked about that.
SPEAKER_05One year they had it at FDR. Oh, yeah, I remember that year. And I went up there and got up a Carlos since he's one of the you know keen pins of FDR, and he's all been holding it down and building shit that out there forever. And uh we went out there and later that night, they just you know, they threw a big party and had everybody come out there. There was a car train of about 16 cars trying to find their way out to BAMs. Wow. And somebody got the directions wrong because we didn't have GPS and shit like that back then. Took us like an hour and a half, which should have been like a 35-minute drive to Leicester or wherever his uh castle was or what but uh it was really cool out there, man. It's an adventure though. Yeah, that was before he had that part. I was about to get it. Actually, I almost got hired to help him sheet all the gator skin on top of that. I had shit going on here and I couldn't. Carlos called me, he's like, hey man, he's like, I need somebody that knows what's up with that. And I'm like, fuck, I can't.
SPEAKER_01That would be a fucking sick build to be a part of. That place is a good thing. No, that place was so fun. Yeah, especially like they got that big old floaty vert wall, you know, that just goes up to the to the ceiling. Like, I mean, it just seems like between that and then elevates to some smaller stuff, and like it just yeah. There's a lot packed into a small space, but it all looks like it's dude perfectly laid out. Could be like very skateable.
SPEAKER_05Looks like it could get slick.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah, oh yeah, for sure. You definitely have to have the the floors the floors are heated in that bitch. The floors are heated in there? Yeah, so like the wood doesn't ever get like slick or anything like that. Yeah, because of the the temperatures and you change it.
SPEAKER_05I saw they put it in Tampa's bowl or something for the old man bowl jail. I was like, man, that looks slick, and they're like, it's made to be grippy for indoors or and somebody else just put it on another ramp somewhere that I saw on Instagram.
SPEAKER_01Um there we go. That was almost bad. We almost lost power.
SPEAKER_03Good boy, Ozzie. Go lay down, dog. But yeah, the uh yeah, the uh apparently all the floors and like the wood or whatever is all like heated like when it snows and shit up there. Yeah, that way it never gets like wet and dewy or anything.
SPEAKER_05Well, yeah, they do a lot of driveways and stuff like that too. Yeah, with the coils to them. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Oh yeah, so uh what what kind of builds have you been a part of?
Building Kona And Indoor Park Realities
SPEAKER_01I I remember you seeing seeing you back in the day. I helped build the big street course, right? At Kona? Yeah. I remember seeing you out there with some bags on.
SPEAKER_05Not the big, big one, I helped with the small street course after the big one was kind of built, and then I did a lot of different renovations to the big one. Yep, yep. Um, I helped build the vert ramp out there, and maybe that's I did the first renovation after Marty bought Stone Edge back in the day. Yeah, and we did um Team Payne did the wood bowl out there, and we did all the street course, me and Joe Murara for Joe Hyundai Joe, and we need Marty pretty much.
SPEAKER_01Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, we stayed in the camper out there for a couple of weeks, just stayed there, poured a bunch of footers and just started building and kind of eyeballing stuff as we went. He had a basic idea of what we wanted, but we just room was a factor out there, so it was kind of hard trying to figure that out.
SPEAKER_01But yeah. That's kind of how it goes normally with Marty too on his builds. He's kind of got a basic idea, and then there's some modifications made.
SPEAKER_05Yeah. I did a couple of smaller concrete parks, but nothing uh nothing to write home about with those. But um, yeah, just some backyard stuff. I built a bunch of backyard mini ramps, you know, those are always fun. Hell yeah. Oh, I actually I've I remember redoing the Orange Park skate park right before they got uh to the con right before it went to concrete? Uh it was one phase before they went to concrete. Because then Team Payne came in and built a mini ramp after that. After I built some stuff out there. They had that bank to wall.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. That thing was that thing was red. Yeah, which I did just see that somebody new has kind of moved in out there. So shoutouts to them. Uh they're trying to um have some product in the skate park, and they're kind of running the park. You can find them on the gram, I think at just OP skate park. Uh that the block the block runs out. No, the block moved out of there, I think, a month and a half ago or so.
SPEAKER_05Um I used to live right down the road from there when I was like 20. Nice. And the purple house with my mom and um her husband at the time, not the comedian. Not the comedian. Mom's been married a few times.
SPEAKER_03Love your mama. No disrespect. Do your thing, boo.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, he's in a sick metal band now called the Noctambulant. They're out of Orange Park here. They like travel Europe and shit all the time. They're like a black metal band. Yeah, they played Akona recently. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04The big giant bass player dude. Yeah, that was my stepdad also.
SPEAKER_05That was no shit for a while. Yeah, and he lived off of college down there, and I could take Doctor's Lake around and go like up to the park right there. Hell yeah. There's like a little school halfway through there that had a ditch and a bunch of good red ledges over in Orange Park, too. And I didn't know anybody there when I lived there. Oh shit. That's right when the legacy days started. So I just normally went into town and started skating with Rick and got up with him. Yeah, we went to Skate World a bunch back then.
SPEAKER_01Bro, Skate World used to I liked Skateworld.
SPEAKER_05It was like a lot of people. I like a burnt ramp, but yeah, everything was so slick.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, the vert ramp was cool, but um, it was just a place. I guess I liked Skate World because it was because of the ice skater chicks next door. Yeah, you know, no. It was it was just inside, man. That's like the one thing we you know, we talked about about it with Peterson and he kind of shed the light as you know, thinking from a well we had skate asylum. Yeah.
SPEAKER_05And it just, you know, and we had that Skate Asylum was sicker, but Skate World had more room and it wasn't ever as crowded, really. I mean, there are a bunch of rollerbladers there.
SPEAKER_01Right, but why can't we just keep an indoor spot in this town? I mean, we had skateboard house for a while, but Peterson, you know, kind of shone a light that it was like you look at 'em, they were all prime time real estate. So as as rent went up, like you can't sustain that. You know, he was like, you gotta do something like spot where it's in an area where you know the real estate isn't gonna continue to skyrocket and price you ought to be able to keep it there.
SPEAKER_05Well, what's funny is I grew up skating cone and everything, but I know everybody more through either skate world or skate asylum is when I wound up, you know. We were older at that time, we weren't kids skating anymore, and that's when I really met everybody and stuff. George at Skate World.
SPEAKER_01Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah, no, because I originally started inlining. Everybody knows, talk about it. Doc's always busting my balls. But that's what introduced me to skateboarding. That was the cool thing when I moved to Jacksonville. And yeah, I mean, I I remember going to Skateworld, I had my inline skates and my skateboard. I remember going to Kona, had my inline skates and my skateboards.
SPEAKER_05George Woodn, he would take his skates off and borrow somebody's board and do like a waist-high front side flip on an ice slick ramp. And we're just like, dude, why don't you just skateboard? He was a freaking agent. Fucking crazy. He's like, man, I don't get free shit for skateboarding.
SPEAKER_03Now with that attitude.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I don't know. I definitely uh I just got to a point where with the inline skating, where I don't know, the once I really started skateboarding, it was just something about it. Inline skating was fun, but uh I don't know. There's just something about it. It was like, you know what I mean? Not being like, I grew up snowboarding too, but there's just always been, you know, because I'm from Pittsburgh originally, so that was actually my first board sport. I got a little basic junior snowboard with slip-in bindings for fucking Christmas for kindergarten.
SPEAKER_05It was like if you're fixed on something, that's that's one thing, like snowboarding, but not skiing. Because I can't have an individual foot trying to do its own thing. Like I tried to roller skate not too long ago. My wife loves roller skating. Oh my god.
SPEAKER_04I can't I can't quad. She's all smooth with it, going backwards, and I'm like, I look like a baby deer.
SPEAKER_01Me too, giraffe out there. Like, I can't do it. But I grew up playing hockey, so it was like ice skating.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, that's different. You got the so it was like the inline.
SPEAKER_01Once I moved down here, and inline was things, like, well, I can already do this, and I'm already used to like riding down shit on a snowboard. Like, it was just kind of that kind of came together. And then it was like a year and a half into skating. I had made friends at the skate park that were skateboarders and busting balls, and it was like trying to ollie and like do shit. It was like, oh, this is fucking hard. Like, you know, then it was just the determination of like, oh, I'm not gonna stop until I figure this out.
SPEAKER_05Some of the best things is talking with other skateboarders about not skateboarding, not about skateboarding, about all the other shit that skaters are into because it's such a broad yeah, like we were talking about the the three best hockey movies last night. Oh shit. Hell yeah.
SPEAKER_04I said Goon was one of mine.
SPEAKER_03I love that movie, man. Hell yeah. Mighty Ducks 1, Mighty Ducks 2, and Mighty Ducks 3. Slapshot's the best. Slapshot's a great one, yeah.
SPEAKER_01No, and I also, I mean, because I was just real outdoorsy um when I was a kid too. I remember going to the climbing gym up in Pittsburgh for a kid's like birthday party, and it introduced me to like rock climbing. And for a good several years, even I lived in North Carolina for a year in between here and uh Jack uh Pittsburgh, and then even here, like I continued, like I've been on climbing trips up in you know West Virginia and stuff like that, and I got really into rock climbing for a while. And it's just kind of that whole, you know, there was you can have it.
SPEAKER_05I'm not scared of climbing or heights or anything. I always used to love climbing trees. I have no problem walking a second story two by four wall with my tool bags on. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't mind the heights, but fuck rock climbing, man.
SPEAKER_01No, well, I mean, I just think I've always been like, you know, I I I enjoyed it. I enjoy team sports and everything like that, but I think you know, skateboarding has individual satisfaction. But you and skateboarding has a lot different similarities in the sense that, like, man, you know how many times you try going up a route, and I mean your fucking muscles are I mean, there's it's painful, it's hard, it's difficult. Like, I mean, your fingers are cracking and bleeding. I mean, it's it's you're still here to talk about it, so yeah. I mean, you're harnessing shit. That's what scares me about it. You can die doing that shit. Brother, you can die skateboarding. We we all like to pretend you can't, but but I've I've seen two severe traumatic brain injuries working at the skate park, and they thankfully they both recovered. One of them was my friend, and that's some scary ass shit, dude.
SPEAKER_05That happened um the first time I went to Medford Skate Park in Oregon. They were like, that's the extension the dude died on. Oh, I can't remember his name. He was from what I heard, he was a good skater too. And he went to go to disaster and his board slipped out and hit his head on the back of the coping. And that was like 20 years ago or something. Yeah, bro. Is uh Medford that uh one place where they got the bowl and like uh the two like quarter or two uh it looks like a column of a vert wall, like it looks like the column that's at Burnside without the bridge over top of it. Okay, and I mean it's like nine feet of vert, column, like four-sided, you know, and that's that's the part. It's an older park, but it's like a really cool actual park. They've got it like a sundial. You walk through the sidewalk and you stand there at a certain time of the day, it'll tell you exactly what time it is if the sun's out.
SPEAKER_01Oh, yeah. That's pretty
Pads, Helmets, And Injury Truth
SPEAKER_01cool. Yeah, I mean, you know, speaking about this, you know, traumatic brain injuries and stuff, I mean, there's definitely kind of been a resurgence of people wearing helmets and padding up. You know, and the I don't know if you notice, but like a lot of the you know most I don't know if it's required, but in the flow bowl contest, like the vans, all of the park qualifiers are all wearing helmets. You got guys like Anthony Anderson, and who else did I see? Another pro that was wearing a helmet.
SPEAKER_05Um Do you notice the difference in the way that they skate? No. I grew up skating with pads, and that's how I got comfortable going doing big high airs, and a lot of these other kids like let's take a lot of things. Yeah, Wolfski has tried to pad up and learn how to he wanted to learn how to use his pads so he could let airs on Vert go a little more and stuff like that, but you get used to bailing a certain way, you know, and some some people can't, but you get used to using those pads and trusting them, and you can kind of let yourself go a little more. And you see some of those kids that grew up wearing pads. Look at Pedro. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, you know, he grew up wearing pads and stuff, and he got good at that, and now he doesn't need to. Yeah, you know, and that's the kind of thing. But see, I'm coming full circle again. You know, I'm old now, like I will pad up if I I gotta put my elbow pads on, man. My elbows have taken enough damage. The grossest thing ever is your elbow pads. They got mouths on them.
SPEAKER_01If I wear any, if I if I ride anything, if I ride anything taller than like six feet, I'm probably putting my knee pads on. I'll I'll put my because I just the older I get, man, dude, running out of shit, like trying to skate the Kona pool. Like if I just bail in the deep end, oh yeah, look at that. Oh yeah. Same thing over there. Uh yeah, I mean, that's just you've always been an elbow, like fall to your elbows kind of guy. Yeah, my right elbow, since I'm goofy footed, I always fell and tucked on that one.
SPEAKER_05This one's from shooting the board back and falling on or back disaster or backside reverse. What do you mean? I'm scared backside reverse now. I've fallen backwards too many times. So I'll I'm at it with that trick. I'm retired.
SPEAKER_01Fair enough. Fair enough. Yeah, uh shit. Keith Baldisari, shoutouts to him, but man, he's he's got a gnarly.
SPEAKER_04His one elbow is like both of mine put together. Bro, yeah, one elbow. Yeah, dude, that one elbow is so gnarly. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Um is gross, dude. But yeah, dude, we've been chatting for about another almost 40 minutes now. You
Part One Wrap And Where To Follow
SPEAKER_01got anything else you want to wrap up with, Chris? Uh figured uh take a break real quick and then uh Well, I'm uh short for time also because I gotta I gotta go to work. We can do another one sometime. Yeah, hey man, we're not going anywhere.
SPEAKER_05There's uh some other things that you guys might want to laugh about. Oh, definitely, definitely.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, no, this is uh this is Tim Motherfucking Johnson in part one. To be continued.
SPEAKER_05Um maybe the weather will be better next time. We can get a little session here now.
SPEAKER_01Definitely. That was the initial plan I was hoping, and then I ended up having to work, and then I woke up and it was raining anyway. I was like, oh well.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, well, next time uh I'll probably still be in recovery from surgery because that's on Wednesday. Yes. So update for everybody.
SPEAKER_05Good luck with your surgery, man. Yep, surgery is happening. I would love to watch what you fall down on your skateboard again. So I think we all would.
SPEAKER_01Don't worry, it's coming soon. Tim, you want to tell anybody where they can find you on social media or you keep that kind of to yourself? I mean, you know, Tim the Johnson. Tim the Johnson on the gram.
SPEAKER_05Check him out.
SPEAKER_01All right, guys. Well, thanks again for uh hanging out and thanks for listening, everybody. Peace, love, and skateboarding.