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Skate Paradise In The Florida Woods: Carl Naegele
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A backyard skate ramp hidden in the St. Augustine woods sounds like a tall tale, but Carl Nagley lived it and built it. We sit down with the North Florida local to trace a 36-year skateboarding journey shaped by Kona Skatepark, contest-era Florida energy, and a deep love for spine ramps and technical coping tricks. If you’ve ever watched someone link lip trick combos that look straight out of Tony Hawk, Carl’s the kind of skater you’re thinking of.
We get into the specifics that skaters actually care about: why certain transitions “feel right,” how to keep learning without chasing the biggest trick, and the mindset of taking what you already have and adding one small piece to create something new. Carl also talks favorite skaters, early sponsorship moments, Tampa Am memories, and how Florida skateboarding grew from a regional scene into a worldwide pipeline.
Then we zoom out to the culture around the skating: the local skate shops that held scenes together, the overlap between skateboarding and music, and our chaotic “News with Idiots” segment. We also get honest about shared skateparks, from inline skaters to BMX and scooters, including the unbreakable rule that can save a session: don’t wax coping.
Stick around for the ramp round-two plans, plus a real update on surgery, recovery, and the drive to get back on the board with unfinished business. If you enjoy skateboarding stories with equal parts history, humor, and hard-earned wisdom, subscribe, share this with a friend, and leave us a five-star review.
Cold Open And Guest Tease
SPEAKER_03Hey everybody, you already know who it is.
SPEAKER_05Look how you've grown up for me.
SPEAKER_03And you already know who I got with me. But introducing so introducing my oldest, the one and only Lucy Walnuts. That's right. Fucking Italian people. How y'all doing? Welcome to episode 43.
SPEAKER_06Man, how's it hanging, fam?
SPEAKER_03We're doing good, man. Stoked for uh who we had come through today. We had uh the one and only Carl Nagley, uh St. Augustine local, the man that had the uh paradise in his backyard amongst the trees for so long. Legendary ramp. Wish I could have taken you there. It's uh something that you dream about, Lucy, when you think about half pipe after half pipe, spined into another half pipe, hipped into another one amongst the trees in North Florida.
SPEAKER_06That sounds awesome.
SPEAKER_03Doesn't get any better than that. Yeah, skate park in the woods.
SPEAKER_06They called it they called it they used to call it the squ uh Sasquatch Ramp Ramp.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, the Sasquatch Ramp. Or the uh That's what it was originally called. Down here in Florida, it's the skunk cave. You already know.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, like you know where uh Buggy's is in like St. Augustine area? Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Right there.
SPEAKER_06Alright, so you go past Buggy's and then you uh you go into the woods, and then uh you get a compass. First off, you need a compass.
SPEAKER_03You need a compass and then you'll find your way. First, you need to look for the North Star. Um and then you uh uh second star to the right and straight on until morning, right? That's the Atlas. He's heating up anyway, man. Carl has been a uh a North Florida dude for for most of his life. Um he's been skating for most of my life, um, and he is a master of technical lip tricks and uh Lucy, he's been skateboarding longer than I've been alive.
SPEAKER_05Well, yep.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, yeah. I've been skateboarding.
SPEAKER_05How old are you?
SPEAKER_06I'm 30 and I've been skateboarding for 19 years.
SPEAKER_05Dang.
SPEAKER_03Yep. That's crazy. Carl's 50 and he's been skating for 36.
SPEAKER_06Well, it was 36 or 32.
SPEAKER_0336. He started when he was 14, he's 50.
SPEAKER_06No, he's oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Actually, you're right. You're right, you're right. I'm mixing something up. You're correct.
SPEAKER_03You already know I'm right. What? You already know I'm right.
SPEAKER_06Yay!
SPEAKER_03But anyway, we want to thank everybody once again for tuning in. Um, if you don't mind, go ahead and give the uh thumbs up, five star rating. That's the uh best way to show your uh appreciation and support for the podcast. But uh man, without further ado, the one and only called the fucking big episode 43. Let's get it.
Carl Nagley Starts Skating
SPEAKER_03And I got the one and only Dr. Jones. Dr. Jones, Dr.
SPEAKER_00Jones.
SPEAKER_03I didn't know that was coming. You got a new one. The new Lewis J. Gomez.
SPEAKER_00Dr. Jones, Dr. Jones!
SPEAKER_03Oh shit, that is Lewis. Fucking anyway. Welcome to the show. Thanks for tuning in, everybody. If you don't mind, take this time to go ahead, like, subscribe, the podcast, the Instagram, the YouTube channel, all that good stuff. We'd be uh very appreciative. Uh super stoked for who we got at the table today, my friend.
SPEAKER_06We got Carl Nagley. The one and only. The legend in the business.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, the man with the uh they used to have like the most amazing skate paradise nested underneath the trees, right down there in St. Augustine. How you doing, Carl? Welcome to the show.
SPEAKER_04Doing good.
SPEAKER_03Hell yeah, man.
SPEAKER_04I got talked into this.
SPEAKER_03That's all right, dude. I left my sick kid at home for this. So yeah, man, it was last minute, but we appreciate you making time to come down and talk with us. But uh we'll go ahead and just kind of jump into the skating questions. Uh go ahead, first of all, uh tell everybody you know how old you are. When uh when did you start skating, like the age, and what was your first board?
SPEAKER_04Okay, let's see. Started ninth grade. Um was that 1922?
SPEAKER_03No, 1987.
SPEAKER_04Nice. And then um skate regular. And let's see. I'm about I'll be 50 this month. Oh, damn, dude. Happy early birthday, brother. Hell yeah, man.
SPEAKER_03Happy early birthday. So you've been games for what life for you.
SPEAKER_04Don't expect shit from us now. Now I've got you trying to do math.
SPEAKER_0336 years then, about right? Because ninth grade would be about 14. So about 36 years of skating. Wow. Fuck yeah, about almost as long as I've been alive, my friend. I mean, I was born in 85. Yeah, that's I feel old. That's longer than I've been alive. I was born in 92. Yeah, man. Well, um, what was your first board in uh like kind of your first introduction that got you into skateboarding?
SPEAKER_04Uh first board, I think, was um a hand me down from a friend of mine that I was in school with. And I'm gonna say it was not trying to get to my mental category here. I think oh, I think it was a um Kevin Stop. Oh, nice. And um it was it was an older one set up, you know, it was kind of a beatdown model. But I started skating with that and realized, you know, I'd really picked it up and wanted to really see where it would take me, you know, just enjoy it and see what I could learn as far as tricks.
SPEAKER_07Yeah.
SPEAKER_04And started going my dad started taking me up to Kona and he ended up buying me a Tony Hawk. Oh yeah. And it was the old X XT bonite style, so that didn't last long. Because uh apparently when you get water with XT, it's not compatible. It'll come apart.
SPEAKER_03You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_04It's like IKEA furniture.
SPEAKER_06Trash. The garbage and without the meatballs. Without the meatballs, yeah.
SPEAKER_04I figure out how to put it together. But IKEA furniture usually requires extra screws, but didn't have to use that on this one.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. So uh are you from Jacksonville originally?
SPEAKER_04Uh originally was born in Jacksonville, moved down to St. Augustine when I was four. Okay. And I'm still on the same property that I I grew up on.
SPEAKER_03Hell yeah, man. That's a rad uh piece of property. I was lucky enough to go down there a couple of times before uh everything rotted out. But I hear you got big things coming. So we'll uh we'll talk about that here in a in a minute. You said you're a regular skate regular?
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I skate regular. Um never really could figure out the switch part of it.
SPEAKER_03That's what I was about to say. Uh switch or faky if you had to choose. Fakey. Front side or backside.
SPEAKER_04Uh like a lot of frontside tricks.
SPEAKER_03Right, on kick flip or heel flip.
SPEAKER_04Kick flip, because heel flip always put it behind me.
SPEAKER_03Street, park, or both.
SPEAKER_04Uh see. Mostly park. I did do a little bit of street back in the day. And now I'm at that point where it's it's mostly park. And it's a little bit more gentle the older you get, right? My strong point has always been the spine ramps. Oh yeah. I don't know why, but I just I really gravitate more to those. And a lot of my tricks really worked more comfortably on spines. Right. So I've always kind of stuck with that.
SPEAKER_06I remember the uh the one of the first times I met you at your place skating, and uh like you was like your first run, which is like the craziest first run I've ever seen on a ramp and just all together. And then when you got over the like finally like made your way over to the spine, you did like back big spin to the nose blunt to like revert out to the other side. And I was like, what the fuck?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, it's actually funny that you say like that, you know, about the spine because the first time I ever saw you skate when I was a kid was at Cone. I don't remember what was going on, but they had that the six-foot spine ramp there, and it was shortly after they built the big street course area. But I remember watching you skate the spine and just your bag of tricks were like it's like multi-combinations on lip tricks. It was like crazy. It was like we were playing Tony Hawk's, you know, video game and doing these in the video game, and then here comes Carl Nagley with these crazy lip trip combos and going back in. It was kind of kind of mind-blowing for my like 14-year-old self.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, that's the one thing I really I never really did a lot of the errors. I love the inverts, but never really tried to learn them. But my strong point has always been the lip tricks. I'm more comfortable with the technical lip tricks. Yeah, I remember adding tricks to the stuff I'd learned. That was the thing I always tried to stress somebody somebody was like, I want to learn a new trick. I'm like, take what you know and add to it, add something to it. Yeah, it doesn't even matter to me, doesn't even have to be anything fancy, it's just something different. That'll lead them to something different. That may be a completely different trick that you're thinking you were gonna learn.
SPEAKER_06Right.
Spine Ramps And Lip Trick Mastery
SPEAKER_06The ramps, dude. Like I've seen you do fakey three shove to switch blunt back in, then come back to do fakey tray like rocking back in, like, what the fuck, dude? Even to this day, I've never seen anybody do those moves. Like maybe the three, like the faky three shove to switch blunt, but faky trays on ramps are it's just it it's not there. Nobody, nobody's able to do that shit. It's like it's still wild today.
SPEAKER_03Oh, for sure.
SPEAKER_04The generation now is that we're gonna be able to impress with the hell they're doing it.
SPEAKER_03Oh yeah, it's it's mind blowing.
SPEAKER_06None of us had parks growing up skateboards.
SPEAKER_03Not that's true. No parks like we got today, um, everywhere. Um, that's definitely for sure.
SPEAKER_04Uh they didn't have the the luxury of having the the variety and the knowledge of the tricks now, the whole trick base that the original skateboarders brought. Then the people come in the 90s and added to it. Added to it, right? And then in 2000, they added some more to it, and now it's oh it's a tail slide on a ledge, but now they're flipping into a tail slide and then big spinning off of it.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, and not only that, the multi-combo grinds, like even on rails and stuff, like you'll you'll see guys just hop up front 50 on a handrail, then front board. You know what I mean? Like all these like on rails in the street. It's kind of crazy.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, well, I think like what like what the main thing is with like this generation is they they don't have they don't think anything's not possible on a skateboarder. No, they on a skateboard. Like we're gonna be able to do that.
SPEAKER_04Pretty much the door just opened, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, and then he like then he did the loop with when he what he took the gap out of the top and he like aired and did the loop. He was in that transfer, yeah. Then he did switch too, dude. So crazy, so crazy. Danny Wade jumping the fucking great wall of China. I mean, these kids have grown up with all of that.
SPEAKER_04I read something on that the other day, and how he was talking about how that was one of his most scariest moments in his life because of the fact that it was bamboo scaffolding, and he's up there and he says, I thought I was going to die. Well, yeah, actually. And he did it with a broken ankle, dude. Yeah, no, I did know that. Actually, his first attempt before they filmed they actually truly filmed it, he hurt his ankle. Yeah. And then he had to come back and do it with a broken ankle.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, but fill the contract. The whole bamboo scaffolding thing, that's how they do it in China and Japan. It's it's it's really crazy. And it really kind of is a testament to the strength of like the natural structure of bamboo. But it's because they can get these storms in so quickly with these crazy winds that they need something that actually flexes. And if they use steel steel scaffolding, maybe I should use that for my ramp.
SPEAKER_04It'll collapse.
SPEAKER_03I mean, we've got all these different storms coming in, but it's gonna be tricky.
SPEAKER_06Shout out to Red Snapper because he's making me a bamboo cane right now.
SPEAKER_03Hell yeah, big shout out, Snap.
Favorite Skaters And Sponsor Stories
SPEAKER_03So, who was your favorite skater growing up?
SPEAKER_04That's a hard toss-up right there.
SPEAKER_03We'll just throw a couple out there that, you know, come to mind.
SPEAKER_04Let's see. Consistency, Tony Hawk, because of all the contests. He had basically his set of tricks that he knew that he could practically do blindfolded.
SPEAKER_03Right.
SPEAKER_04But then you had innovators like Danny Way that was pushing the envelope. Then you had Bob Perquist pushing the envelope. But then you've got all the people that you grew up around watching on the videos that were pretty much in the same era with you as far as like Mike Villale.
SPEAKER_03Right.
SPEAKER_04And then the street skaters, which are now legends, Ray Barbie, Steve Sayers, Chet Thomas, all the brigade skaters, and then how they branched off to make other companies like Lance Mountain started the firm.
SPEAKER_05Yep.
SPEAKER_04And then I didn't know Lance Mountain started that. Yeah. That's wild. I didn't know that. Yep. And then uh people like Bucky Lysick still around, still killing it. Yeah, he's a good one. And it's just amazing to watch a lot of the people that like Steve Caballero, stable.
SPEAKER_05Oh, for sure.
SPEAKER_03And yeah, we just saw him out of Kona not long ago.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, which was rather he's not much older than me, really. I mean, I really look at the time frame as far as the ages of people. The ones that I looked at too that were professional were right there just a few years older than me.
SPEAKER_03Right. Hell yeah. Um so let me ask you this. What who was your first sponsor? When was that?
SPEAKER_04Let's see. Um, I had local sponsors like the surf station, and it was pretty much the only well, it was one other skate shop in St. Augustine. And then let's see. Vincent Passetti started the 187 PAG company. He was from St. Augustine.
SPEAKER_05Yep.
SPEAKER_04Oh damn.
SPEAKER_03You didn't know that? No. Yeah, that's the fucking curve. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Today's a learning curve.
SPEAKER_06Hey, Paul, a piece of that notepad and some of the pens so I can get to start writing shit down. Yeah. You can write. Surprisingly. You got me. You got me. All right, fine, guys.
SPEAKER_04You already tried to figure out how to do some spelling. Shots fired. You had to figure out to do some spelling a minute ago. You smell restaurant. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah, but I um yeah, pretty much that was and you rode for crown for a while, right? Well, let's see. I um I got pretty I got really good with the ramps, and I started skating up in Jacksonville a lot, and actually ran across um Bruce Martin, had his place over there in Emerson.
SPEAKER_03Bruce Martin, the escatopia of Bruce Martin, right? Yes. Yep, hell yeah. Oh what? Before he moved to Ohio, he was in Jacksonville. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Holy shit, I didn't know that. Yep. And he um he had a good sized ramp in the backyard, and I was learning on that, and I ran across this friend of mine, and it turned into a friend, you know, my best friend, uh Lee Varnadore. And not sure who he um he was going out doing different things in out west uh west coast of Florida, Panama City area, and he was I think he was dealing with ATMs or something. And he was going out there doing little service calls and stuff. And he ended up merskating and he ended up meeting Chuck Santasack that ran Crown. Oh yeah. Oh, yeah, the original crown owner. And it was a family-owned business, and all the family, Jesse Santack and Cindy was his mom, and they had like a park out there, or they were about to do a park, but he was running the company out of his house. And he ended up meeting Lee, and they got talking and he started bringing boards back, and I started writing crown boards, and then Chuck decided he wanted to expand the company. He wanted to put some riders on. Hell yeah. And he asked Lee, he says, You got some good people that'd be good to ride. Ride for you. You know, ride for the company. And he said, I already have somebody. And he put my name on in the hat, and next thing I would come home, my dad goes, Well, good news. You're sponsored. And you got a contest coming up in Tampa this weekend.
SPEAKER_01Sunday!
SPEAKER_03Hell yeah.
SPEAKER_04So he sent me boards and I went my first Tampa Am. And I didn't place real real high.
unknownRight.
SPEAKER_04But I mean, when you're sitting here ro skating with people like Rob Deerdic. Oh, yeah. I mean especially back in those days. Back in the day, Rob Deirdick. When he was on one, um, Chris Markovich.
SPEAKER_05Yep.
SPEAKER_04And it was just all these greats that you see now that own companies.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, they're all letters.
SPEAKER_04You were side by side and they had really advanced tricks.
SPEAKER_05Right.
SPEAKER_04And they were on their game, they and really what it was about was about consistency. And that's what I figured out was they'd have that big trick, but it'd take them a few tries, their points would go down. So I was like, just do what you know. Yeah, just do what you know and see where it takes you.
SPEAKER_07Hell yeah.
SPEAKER_04So the next time I went, I placed a little bit higher. And um I just kept it local. Hell yeah. And I I stable crown and got pushed right up to the envelope as far as Chuck finally said, you know what, we're gonna we're doing this thing with Vans. And he got talking with you know Steve Van Doren and all the different people with Vans that were gonna do the they were gonna do the um Vans Warp Tour. And we're gonna do the contest coming in with it. And that's where all that came about.
SPEAKER_03Sweet. Hell yeah. I remember those days, man. The warp tour days when there was actually like skating and stuff there. Yeah, before it just turned into like a music festival and then died out.
SPEAKER_05Bunch of babies walking around in the leather in the summer. Yeah. Yeah. I actually got um before it turned into a hot topic gathering.
SPEAKER_04So good. Just a gathering opportunity to skate in it. Yeah, that's actually in 2000, the finals were in Anaheim. Hell yeah. Went out there and did the the um Anaheim, isn't that where the Mighty Ducks are from? Yes, no, that's where Van's major Anaheim Mighty Ducks.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I guess it isn't the Mighty Ducks. That's the their Anaheim.
SPEAKER_04But their main indoor course, their indoor facility with the comedy bowl and everything's in Anaheim.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Yeah, yep, yeah, no, for sure.
SPEAKER_04But I ended up getting um I went to Panama City and qualified. And it got to go out there, all expense paid trip by vans. Damn. Hell yeah. Go on, skate.
SPEAKER_03Living it.
SPEAKER_04And I loved it because I a lot of the people like different people from Jacksonville over there as well. Right. For it. So we um because a couple of them had went down to Orlando and qualified down there. So it was really great. We had BC was down there. Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_03I love that, dude.
SPEAKER_04And he wrote for crown for the longest two.
SPEAKER_03So yeah, we've only had BC on for like a short bit when we were at an event. We haven't had a lot of things. Yeah, we had Emerson. Yeah, we've had a lot of people.
SPEAKER_06He's like, Can I cuss on this? And he dude, just a barrage of curse words, dude.
SPEAKER_03He's so used to being like family friendly when he's announcing like these contests and stuff that he's like, wait, I can cuss on this.
SPEAKER_06Fuck that bitch up like Jesus Christ, BC. BC, calm down. God damn. We opened the floodgates. Yeah.
Tampa Am And Florida Skate History
SPEAKER_03But no, we were talking about you you referenced Tampa Am earlier, and I just want to point out Tampa Am is going down this weekend currently. Yes, it is. And uh today's the qualifiers. So big shout outs to everybody that uh made the uh the qualifying rounds today, and big props to everybody that'll be uh throwing down to make the uh finals tomorrow.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I only recognize like three of the names. That's yeah, the rest are all Japanese kids, too.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, because a lot of them are international and out of town, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_04Like it's definitely and that is the craziest thing is back in the day Brian Schaefer and Ryan Clemens worked together to build it.
SPEAKER_05Yeah. Oh fuck yeah.
SPEAKER_04To where it is now. And now they've got their own separate things going on, which is great because it just shows you the diversity of skateboarding nowadays and how internationally renowned it is.
SPEAKER_03Right.
SPEAKER_04Because Tampa Am was basically the it was local for a little bit, and then uh people coming from around the country. And then it turned into the amateurs that were there, the ones that were in the top ten, top fifteen, those are the ones you looked at to the next. Next year or that next contest or the Tampa Pro, they were gonna be pro.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_04And it was people like Mike Maldonado, Rick McCrank, just unbelievable skaters.
SPEAKER_03Hell yeah.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, so um with And that was the funny part was you're skating with people side by side, and you always suddenly know how good they are that when you went to the go watch the pros, you're gonna see the ones that you got the chance to skate with one-on-one from Tampa.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, that's so awesome. Um let me ask you this uh how do you feel about like North Florida skateboarding stacking up with the rest of uh Florida skateboarding, Tampa and maybe the s the southern areas? And then also how do you think Florida skateboarding has stacked up against the rest of the country and the world um these days?
SPEAKER_04I would say really it's just a matter of looking at the overall aspect of it is they're there. You know, we've always had really good skaters coming out of Florida.
SPEAKER_07Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_04And Jacksonville, you get Mike Peterson. But back in the day we had other skaters as well that were just really good with the vert, or really good, like Bucksmith, really good with the vert.
SPEAKER_03And then even street skaters like Clyde Singleton.
SPEAKER_04Clyde Singleton, absolutely.
SPEAKER_03Yeah Peterson. Yeah, he said Peterson when you stepped away for a second to get your your beverage.
SPEAKER_06Oh yeah, I need I need I need my juice.
SPEAKER_03But yeah, I uh I definitely uh you know, you see a lot of when we've talked about this a lot, you know, everybody um and I think it's uh because of contests in this state like Tampa Am in its growth over the past 30 years, um, that has really allowed so many Florida skaters to be recognized and then relocate, you know what I mean, either out west or up north or wherever, and and continue their careers.
SPEAKER_06Um you know, I I definitely, in my opinion, I I I think Florida has one of the best like to do especially North Florida has one of the best skate scenes and like with some of the best to ever come out, like skateboarding for like the majority of like the United States and everything. Like I know you have like New York and a few guys from Texas. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Cause I remember they did a contest at Kona and these people from New York came up in his van and it's shut on the side. And I'm thinking, okay, I have no idea who these people are. I come out and they're just playing around in the street doing like no deplies and little flips and stuff, and I'm like, These are gonna be people that you wanna watch.
SPEAKER_05Hell yeah.
SPEAKER_04And they come out with a whole different set of tricks that I don't think people were really expecting back in the day. And that was fun to watch because you're seeing when you talk about Florida versus the rest of the nation or the world, it really is based on the group of people you're skating with and what you want to learn. It's not so much what the end trick is versus what you find fun.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Because I've seen people that do nothing but like super tricks or they just they like to do all their tricks rolling into stuff. And then then you got the people that they want to just go at it full speed.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_04So the dynamics of how people push themselves is I think what makes a really good environment for skating. And does I don't think it really matters anymore as far as location.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, no, the world's gotten a lot much smaller.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, those people down in the keys, they gotta park down there.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Yeah, we talked with we had Ryan King on him. He was talking about when they did flatline demos down there and everything, and it was like they there was no skate scene down there for the most part, you know, very little. But now they now it's you know skating's everywhere now. Yeah, you said they were treated like rock stars. Yeah, they were treated like rock stars. Yeah, it was pretty rad.
SPEAKER_04Um
The Ramp In The Woods
SPEAKER_04like Costa Rica was famous for surfing.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_04But everybody knows that surfing and skating kind of go hand in hand. And some people treat it as seasonal. It's winter and can't surf, they go skate.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_04And then all of a sudden when the waves come back in and the water temperature goes back up, they're back on the surfboard.
SPEAKER_05Yep, surf skate culture.
SPEAKER_04I seen that with my ramp. It was seasonal. I would sit there and skate, and I'd be like, all right, it's about August. So and so is supposed to show up because he ain't gonna be able to surf. He's gonna come skate.
SPEAKER_07Hell yeah.
SPEAKER_04Sure enough, he'd go show up and he'd have like one or two other friends of his, you know, people that had never been there and they're like wide-eyed walking driveway going, This actually does exist.
SPEAKER_06The first time I seen I like I got to your place and like skated. Like I walked up like, yo, what the fuck is this?
SPEAKER_03Like it's yeah. So the first time I went down there, Wild Man took me down there. And I remember we came and I just remember seeing like the back side of like your the the tall part of the mini ramp, you know? Like when you first you see that and I'm like, oh sick, he's got like a legit mini ramp. And then you get up on the deck, dude, and then you see it's not just a mini ramp with an extension, but it like there's almost like a launch box that you know, part here where it goes into another bold area, and the very back there was like a spine into another bowl that was missing the corners, right?
SPEAKER_04Yeah, that's that was the newer, that was the most latest and newest one before Mother Nature took advantage of the templates and rotted out the tops and bottoms. And I'm like, yep, well, now I'm committed to building a new one.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, but then I I remember like there's even like there, I think, wasn't there like a spine to the left?
SPEAKER_04Yeah, there's a spine and the right.
SPEAKER_03And then there was even a ramp on top of the deck over here.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, that was on the left. There was an extension. We built a ramp off the back side of it.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I just and I remember like see the j I was just awestruck. The first what the fuck? Like, this is amazing.
SPEAKER_06Oh yeah, man. Like, do you skate in that place? Because like after the first time I went, dude, I came back like I think it was with the crown dudes at the time with Duddy, Aaron Mullen, and Kyle. Oh, they're out there. Yeah, like they they brought me and shit, and then like it was just fucking wild, like skating it and everything. And like you know, first time you go there, dude, you're just trying to figure it out. Like, you're not like your first time skateboarding there, you're not gonna fucking really understand how the it flows and everything.
SPEAKER_03But once you figure it out, dude.
SPEAKER_06Oh, dude. Me and Kyle Parisi used to go there all the time, just me and him, and like we would fuck that place up, dude. I I was just telling Carl on the way over here, like I seen I was I was on my Instagram, uh, and I seen this old video from his house of me and Kyle, and like I came from the uh the little spine, like the little spine over, and like dead low to high back to D, like into like the bigger, like into the bigger uh quarter pipe next to it. Oh yeah. And it was like fucking like three and a half, it was like two and a half, three feet.
SPEAKER_04Like the spine was four, and the uh mid-size ramp was five and a half, but it was set back about a foot and a half. So to travel up was one thing, but you had to travel up and then travel backwards just a little bit.
SPEAKER_06Right. Yeah, I just remember like I watched it and I was like, fuck, I forgot about that.
SPEAKER_04I remember watching Kyle on the eight-foot extension come up to five and a half to the eight-foot extension and do a front side lip slide up the edge of it and then land up on the top. And he's remember that night he learned it that night, and he's just trying it, and then all of a sudden he got it down, and then every try. Every try he had it. Dude, and then I decided, hey, try and revert it. Yeah, it took him a few tries on that one, but he got it, and he was just like, I can't believe you asked me to revert something I just learned. Dude, I yeah, I remember exactly.
SPEAKER_03Well, yeah, you're already in the zone, keep going. Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER_04I mean, if you got the feel of it, yeah.
SPEAKER_03I just remember um one of the fondest things about that big part of that mini ramp was uh man, you could actually the tranny was so perfect. I remember being able to actually do feeble grinds on it. You know what I mean? Yeah, like doing I did feeble faky and then half cab on the extension and then like fake which you know crook just run that I remember doing, it was just like felt so flawless. That fucking ramp was so funny.
SPEAKER_04It wasn't flawless. No it had one little spot at the bottom, and then I don't know what it was, but every time I cut a template, I would start out right and then it would dive in just a little bit, and you could feel it.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_04But if you skated for long enough, you wouldn't care, you got used to the feeling. Yeah, but I'd get Tim Johnson, and he knows how to build ramps. And he skate, we've skated years and years together, and awesome skating with him. Oh, yeah. And he knows all about construction. Oh yeah. And we all learn by building ramps, and we feed off each other. And that was the first thing he says. I'm gonna be honest. He says, Your template cutting needs some work. I said, Well, it's a little late now. I mean, look at the size of the ramp. I said, and I used a master template that I'd cut and I tried to fix it, but I never could get it 100% right. Yeah. But that's what all back ramps are about. Everything's got its own unique feel, its own unique look to it. Uh once you figure it out.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I mean, it's like, you know, really anything. If you're never gonna get it right the first time. And if you make it too perfect, then it just kind of isn't as fun. Yeah, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_04I don't know. I think I could work around that.
A Slam That Ends The Session
SPEAKER_06Dude, uh, Carl, were you there that night? It was just like me and Kyle, and I got broke off hard as fuck, and I think you'll have to like carry me to the car or some shit. Yeah, you broke your ass.
SPEAKER_04I did. It was no walking, it was no walking that one off.
SPEAKER_06Dude, I'd yeah, I with the tailbone? Yeah, I fucking I was on top of this, I was on top of the uh five and a half here, and I was like, I was front smith grinding, and I've been doing it all night. Like, you know what I mean? I had that trick on that ramp. So I was just I was doing it a bunch, and then just for some reason got caught and just tossed all the way to the bottom, like with like the speed momentum, the height momentum, and dude, I fucking broke the you went straight to the bottom, dude.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, that's that's fucking rough.
SPEAKER_06The ramp moved. Dude. Whenever I yeah, I went I went to the hospital the next day, and they're like, Yeah, you bruised your gluteus really bad. Uh most people uh they've probably broken theirs, but you got kind of lucky and hit on the side. And they're like, But uh, what we're gonna do is we're gonna give you a bunch of morphine, so just chill out for a second.
SPEAKER_03He's like, uh blast off. Yeah. I told you back in your head.
SPEAKER_08Woo!
SPEAKER_03Nice.
Quick Break
SPEAKER_03Well, we've been uh chatting for about 30 minutes. We're gonna take a uh quick break and then uh we'll come back and discuss uh some more stuff with you. So stay tuned. Alright,
Skate Shops And Local Scene Memories
SPEAKER_03hey guys, it's your boy Pauline. I got the doctor with me. Hey yo. We are back, and we got the one and only Carl Nagley still with us. Appreciate you being here again. Carl, outside we were chit-chatting for a minute and we uh we brought up nicotine skate shop. So I know you want to give a little shout-outs and uh talk a little bit about a lot of us together. Yeah. Yeah, that was a rad shop. That was a rad shop. There's a lot of good skaters on that team, too.
SPEAKER_06Never went to nicotine, um, but I remember when I was like younger and everything, and it was still around, like right before they kind of closed down and stuff.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, another skaters good shop that I uh that I liked that did not last long was the St. Nicholas skate shop. Well, it lasted for a while, but you know, I've never heard of that one. Yeah, it was over there uh St. Nicholas near like where Atlantic and Beach meet. Um kind of near what is that, Bishop Kenny over there? Yeah. It was uh she was a quirky lady that was running it, but uh it was a good little community over there.
SPEAKER_04She had big dreams, but I don't think anybody really financed her or backed her the way I think they could have, maybe.
SPEAKER_03For sure, for sure. Um I kind of briefly mentioned to you guys outside that I I discovered this little nugget of internet gold and history um that I wanted to
Dee Dee Ramone’s Rap Detour
SPEAKER_03share. Uh everybody knows the Ramones, the iconic rock, early punk rock band. Um, but did you know that Didi Ramone had a rap album? Did y'all no?
SPEAKER_06No, no idea. No. Like that's I wouldn't think they would even entertain it.
SPEAKER_03Right? When? What year did it drop? Um I you can actually Google. It's called uh the song that I'm about to play is called Funky Man. Okay, so uh you can search when did Didi Ramon Funky Man come out? Um but check check out this uh this gold. Oh, we got a little music video here too on the phone, Chris. I'll show you. I feel like this has to be 80s, right?
SPEAKER_00Looking at the style of the three yeah, yeah, it's the best.
SPEAKER_03I mean, I just think that is one, like, I don't know if they were in financial um you know hard times at at that point. He was like trying to capitalize on the uh popularity of hip hop and its ride. Yeah, either that or I feel like Blow was involved.
SPEAKER_04I'm looking, I'm looking at how he's doing a video and I'm thinking to myself, this is just a spoof to have fun. Yeah, you think? Yeah, I think he's just having fun with it. Just doing something just a little different because he was always in the want to be innovative and trying something different. 1989. 1989. 1989. This is about where the the height the height of their um music career. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, the late 80s. Yeah, which early 90s. This is really crazy because it's like literally coincides with like kind of yeah, height of height of their fame and stuff like that.
SPEAKER_04And uh they probably just did this as a little side thing to have fun.
SPEAKER_03But he's got the uh token brothers behind him doing his little funky spread down that he's like, you can't have a rap video if without being in the hood, I guess. I'm not a maker and that's not a million. But no, it's pretty funny. I uh I thought it was uh hilarious when I first stumbled upon it. And uh I thought to myself, if I haven't heard of this, I doubt many of my friends have, because uh I I've listened to a lot of music and I've always explored like every genre, you know, of music. I've never been one to put myself in a box. You know what I mean? Yeah, and then and then for me to never hear about that until 2022.
SPEAKER_06That's that's so crazy. Dude, I'm pretty sure nobody's heard of that album.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I think uh like there was a whole album of like other that that's on there, but The Funky Man, that was the first track that I listened to, and uh and uh just it tickled me silly. I was laughing my ass off.
SPEAKER_04But then you start thinking about all the different pro skaters out there who've done their own thing.
SPEAKER_03Like Steve Cavallero with my garage. Oh, yeah, everybody. Yeah, I don't I'm not hating Tommy Guerrero with his music. Yeah, I'm not hating because he's like marching to the beat of his own drum and doing his thing. I'm just I I think you gotta you know find humor in life a lot of times. And just because somebody's laughing, you know, at something maybe you did or create, it doesn't necessarily mean they're like laughing at you. You know what I mean? Like there's humor in life. Oh, we were laughing at Jeremy Rogers. Oh, yes, we were all laughing at Jeremy Rogers.
SPEAKER_06We were laughing at his ass.
SPEAKER_04But uh but it's funny how you music and skateboarding coincide so tightly. Hand in hand, yeah, for sure. Because I mean it was so tight that like you wouldn't even expect little Wayne has his own little private skate park in Miami. Yeah, for sure. And skates with all these pro skaters.
SPEAKER_06Yeah. Kevin Graber went down there and built that for him.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, big shout out to Kevin Graber. Okay, yeah, he's uh up in uh New York, I believe, doing the cabinet making and stuff like that. Oh yeah, he makes uh specialty items and everything up there. Yep, so check him out. No, he's good. Really, really good. Attention to detail, yeah. He's uh um
News With Idiots
SPEAKER_03definitely lit with that. But we've uh we got a little segment that we do called News with Idiots that we're gonna run into. Uh Doc's pulled up some current events that uh the three of us are gonna sit down and uh and discuss and give you our thoughts on it. So without further ado, here's News with Idiots.
SPEAKER_02We interrupt our program to bring you this important message. When news breaks in the tri-state area or the world, you will hear it here on New York.
SPEAKER_03Everybody is news with idiots. Yep. Doc, what we got? Doc's got three lined up that uh sound pretty ridiculous.
SPEAKER_06Oh no, no, no. I've changed it entirely now because I found something way better. Okay, all right, and uh keep us on our toes. Here's the thing like, all right, so it's mainly just like the headlines and shit.
SPEAKER_03Right. But uh Well, you might have to give us some details there. You might have to click on the article.
SPEAKER_06All right, I will do that. What you got? What's the first one?
SPEAKER_04The headline just speaks for itself.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, it definitely does. True. All right. Death is nation's top killer. You don't say both your front page story on November 10th studies show tobacco is nation's biggest killer, but death is slowly behind it. Is this slowly behind it?
SPEAKER_03Get the fuck out of here. The onion news, where did you pull this from?
SPEAKER_06Just hold on. Let me see what it is.
SPEAKER_03Oh, it's on Pinterest. Oh, yeah. See, get off it, get on something credible. What else you got? I like that.
SPEAKER_06All right, all right, all right. Well, hold on, hold on. I got your one for you. Weight Watcher, demonstrator, shoplifts, cupcakes.
SPEAKER_02What?
SPEAKER_04Shoplifts cupcakes, weight watcher demonstrators at a moment of weakness.
SPEAKER_03I was about to say they need to get like do the Weight Watchers have rooms like AA and NA? They need to go in there and work their 12 steps because I'm like that. Yeah, they didn't do a very good moral inventory. They didn't do a very good moral inventory if they are uh Steven the cupcakes.
SPEAKER_06All right, we got another one over here that says uh dead man remains dead.
SPEAKER_02Okay!
SPEAKER_06You don't say no bullshit, that's what happens. A uh crack cocaine dealer jailed a 97-year-old woman named Etheridge has been caught on selling crack cocaine.
SPEAKER_03Oh, we need the details. Where is this? It's real. Hold on, I'm I'm dating. Is this in Florida? Is this in Florida?
SPEAKER_06I don't have a Pinterest, so Oh, why are you on Pinterest, bro? Because it was just we come up. Alright, whatever. Fine. Alright, we'll go back. Nobody was suspecting a lady. Yeah, no. 97-year-old lady selling crack, dude. Why? Well, hey, I mean I had all the goods in the in the walker. For real? Okay, here's where I was originally. Alright.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, give us uh something actually real and relevant. Oh, all right.
SPEAKER_06This one came out yesterday. What do we got? A British 20-year-old solves 6,931 Rubik's cubes in 24 hours.
SPEAKER_03A British kid solved 6,921. 31 Rubik's cubes in 24 hours. Is that a world record? And does that shatter the previous record? Because who comes up with that idea?
SPEAKER_04Did he break them apart to solve them or did he actually know if they switched it the whole time? So um if that was a cheat code. Have you ever solved a Rubik's cube? Like honestly.
SPEAKER_03I just like lose interest too quickly.
SPEAKER_06There's a pattern to it, and I don't know it. The previous world record was five thousand eight hundred. So he Shatter that shit. Yeah, so uh his name is George Scoly. Shout out to Master Scoly. And uh the previous time the previous guy was a can was a Canadian named Eric Lineback in 2013 that did the 5800. And then Skoly yesterday shattered that whipped his monkey ass in a Rubik's Cubes.
SPEAKER_08Yeah!
SPEAKER_06That's what I'm talking about.
SPEAKER_03Pay homage to the boy. Alright. That's uh definitely interesting, and I think it's funny that both the previous world record holder comes from Canada and then the current one is now from Britain. It's like they have nothing better to do. Two countries with shitty weather. Yeah, they're not they're not starting the nasty outside.
SPEAKER_06I can tell you what both those countries aren't doing starting wars and whipping ass and kicking names.
SPEAKER_04I tell you they're not saying he's sponsored by Rubik's.
SPEAKER_06All right, so firefighters in New York hoist a dog out of a 12-foot cesspool.
SPEAKER_03A 12-foot cesspool like sewage?
SPEAKER_06That's well, we're getting to cesspool's probably. Oh, there's a video actually for it. Oh lord.
SPEAKER_03All right, so what kind of dog is? Are we talking a golden retriever or are we talking a you know Jack Russell Terrier?
SPEAKER_06It looks like a looks like a black lab almost. Yeah. A little bit little baby one. It was probably a white lab at one time. It was probably a white lab eating.
SPEAKER_08He's eating up!
SPEAKER_06Touche, my friend Touche. And uh so apparently it was 12 feet underground when they had to do it. Oh, yeah, yeah. It's a black lab French Bulldog mix. Fell into the cesspool through a manhole that had been uncovered for service.
SPEAKER_03That is like some Looney Tune shit. The Melville falling in a manhole. For real. That's merry melodies right there.
SPEAKER_06That sounds like some shit that would happen to like Homer Simpson or something like that. For real. Just walking along and just don't fucking uh so the Melville Melville volunteer firefighters respond to the home and found Duke swimming under Duke about 12 feet. What a name for a dog that fell into a cesspool. Yeah, fucking he's duking it out now.
SPEAKER_03Duke got dookie on him.
SPEAKER_06Hey, my dog Duke's got some Duke on him. Uh, can y'all think y'all can help me out and assist? Well, did he shit on himself or something? No, no, no, no. He just fell fell down. Fell in a hole. Yeah. The department called to help from the Huntington Manor Fire Department in Suffolk. I don't know.
SPEAKER_03Suffolk. Suffolk County.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, Suffolk County. The rescuers ended up using a rescue tripod and animal snare to lasso Duke and lift him to safety.
SPEAKER_03Nice whole new mean of fetch. And the whole time playing in the background over the PA was Allison Chains down in a hole. Well, hold on.
SPEAKER_06Hold on. I think this is the best quote of it. The dog was wet, dirty, and afraid, but uninjured. It was escort or escorted with the family members to a local veterinarian for further evaluation. What kind of fucking damage do you think you get from a cesspool being a dog? What would happen if you fell it out into a cesspool? I think you'd be like, I can only swim, but so long. Oh, I'd give up. I'd give up. I'm dying first first minute. Doggy paddling to save his life.
SPEAKER_03All that bacteria, dude, they you getting on antibiotics. ASAP. ASAP.
SPEAKER_04He was happy going into it. My buddy wasn't so happy coming out.
SPEAKER_03Probably not. What do you got?
SPEAKER_06Got anything else for us, Doc? I got one more that I think is gonna be f little be uh funny. A uh Spanish man ties three pairs of shoes in under 10 seconds.
SPEAKER_03Three pairs of shoes in under he he tied like six shoes.
SPEAKER_06Was he late for work? I'm gonna I mean shit. I don't know. We haven't really looked into this. A shoe tying specialist. How do you get that title? I have no goddamn idea.
SPEAKER_04How do you go through as far as a place to say I'm a shoe tying specialist?
SPEAKER_06From Spain earned a Guinness World Record when he tied and he tied the lace of three pairs of shoes in under 10 seconds.
SPEAKER_03Spain? That's in these wow. They've got shoe tying specialists over there. Also, speaking of Spain, I saw this this morning. There is a whole town in Spain for sale for 249,000 U.S. dollars. I'm sorry, what? A whole town in Spain for sale for 249,000 U.S. dollars. It comes with 44 homes, uh uh uh a school, a church, a doctor's office, and a barracks.
SPEAKER_06Um here at Poly of the Podcast.
SPEAKER_03It's up to you what you choose to do with it.
SPEAKER_06Here at Poly in the Pod, we are starting a new GoFundMe investing so we can uh acquire in a town in Spain.
SPEAKER_03Um so relocating home base.
SPEAKER_06Yes, we're relocating home base. If uh anybody would like to go donate now, uh that would be.
SPEAKER_03It doesn't have a Costco or Chick-fil-A, no, no, no, no. No Home Depot. It's just a town. No, no, no, no, it's just a little Spanish town. Yeah, does the people come in? We don't even have we don't even have Wi-Fi. Like nobody lives there anymore, so I guess whoever and a man in town. Yeah. But like all the structures are there and they've like where they're well kept. They are it is listed through a Spanish real realtor. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04All right, so you still gotta pay for water and sewer. A man you still gotta afford to be able to do it.
SPEAKER_03They're gonna catch it somehow. Yeah, still gotta pay for the cesspool.
SPEAKER_06A man visits 78 pubs in 24 hours to break Guinness World Record.
SPEAKER_04It's the pub crawl in St.
SPEAKER_06Augustine. So let me yeah. So I don't think they have 78 pubs, though. Yeah, but you just go to the same quest. You're going to the service. It looks new. Walk out the door, walk back in the door.
SPEAKER_04The voucher's different.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Uh so now let me ask you this. You just visit the pub. So, like you could I could walk into 78 pubs in 24 hours, or do you actually have to drink a full beer there?
SPEAKER_06All right, let's get into this. All right. So uh on November 11th, a South African man living in Australia broke a Guinness world record by taking an epic pub crawl to 78 different pub establishments in 24 hours. Hendrik Dat Vilas received world from some German or Austrian fuck. Yeah, apparently lives in South America too. So I'm gonna guarantee that somebody from the Nazi family found refuge there after 42. But uh word from the Gates World Record that his February 10 10 to 11 pub crawl across Melbourne was supported with a sport team consisting of uh I'm not gonna say those. Oh, oh, he's got a friend named Weaselberger. Weaselberger. I swear to god, I can't I can't pretend everybody uh received it, so let's see if you had a drink. Took the record from an Englishman.
SPEAKER_03Because then you're talking about if you have to have a drink at every one, you're talking about 78 pints. That's impressive.
SPEAKER_06It is important to note that is also borderline alcoholism. Correct. It is important to note that as per the Guinness World Record rules, we only had to consume 125 milliliters, 4.2 ounces of a drink at each place. We had a sip 4.2 ounces? 4.2 ounces. That is they actually put an amount to the fail.
SPEAKER_03Fail.
SPEAKER_06Hold on. All right, so here at Poly at the Pod, we uh actually have a new uh GoFundMe. We need y'all to donate uh so we can go and world record.
SPEAKER_03That's that's a fail. 4.2 ounces. That man holds no record.
SPEAKER_06Not in our book, not in our book. But uh, however, though, if you donate right now to Polly on the Pod on our Patreon, uh we'll give you a house in Spain.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, when we buy the town, you get a house.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, legitimately. And then uh also uh we will go and beat this record and we will drink way more than 4.2 ounces.
SPEAKER_03No, I won't. You're good. You can. I'm good. I'm gonna hold this down.
SPEAKER_06I'm gonna take one, I'm gonna take one for the team, fellas, even though I'm gonna be the only one playing.
SPEAKER_03You're not gonna have a hip or a liver anymore.
SPEAKER_06I've got to die somehow.
SPEAKER_03Jeez. I'm gonna die a champion. All right. Well, uh, that's news with idiots, my friend. I appreciate uh Chris for pulling those up. Um we can talk about a current event going on in the skateboarding world right now, actually, that just popped
Skateboarding Meets Inline And BMX
SPEAKER_03into my mind. Have you seen the weekend skateboards collaborate with them skates, the inline skate company? Uh-uh. Yeah, and they've got like a kind of funny commercial and like primitives, like all like P-rods in it, and like it's just kind of funny. It like takes place out of high school. Are they all on rollerblades? Uh no, but we get the weekend guys are basically the premise is the weekend skate guys are new at this high school, and all the clicks are like, so he was like, Oh, those are the primitive guys, and you know what I mean? Those are all the clicks, are all the different skate scenes, and then the one guy that's showing them around, they get to the rollerbladers, and uh the weekend skate team ends up going and sitting with them for lunch, and he's like, It's social suicide, what are you doing? But they've been but actually um one of the guys that skates for weekends uh or weekend skateboards just put out a little clip with a professional inline skater, John Julio, who rides for them skates and this the uh skateboard, I can't remember his name, Austin, I think, or something like that. He actually put on the skates and did a little grind on a ledge. Did he really? Yeah, but it was kind of funny. Did he soul grind? No, he just did like a front side grind, but uh John Julio did a soul grind down this rail into the over this like drainage ditch. But uh yeah, no, I just thought it was kind of like I'm I I saw this over this past week um on social media, and I thought I was like, I'm is this really happening? Is this like a spoof? Like, what's I fucking hell froze over, boys. There's a skate team collaborating with a royal with an inline team.
SPEAKER_04Like here's some good history for you. What you got? George Evans. Oh, I know I used to inline skate. I used to inline our skateboard Paul Paul and now he has Instagram.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, no, I feel you. Trust me. I I think it's because I think it's awesome because when I first moved to Jacksonville, inline skating was the thing. And so when I first started going to Kona, I was on the inline skates and I started getting like it.
SPEAKER_06Do you think George Evans still skates the Instagram with his skates when nobody's watching?
SPEAKER_03Oh, I don't know, but if he did, I'd sure he still rips. I mean, it's just, you know, yeah, probably not.
SPEAKER_04But he keeps himself pretty busy.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I mean, I'm sure.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, he has a new dad and everything like that. So congrats, George. Appreciate you, brother.
SPEAKER_03But inline skating took me to the skate park, and then that's what brought me skateboarding because there came a point where you know I got kind of I was just into skating as well, at like skateboarding. I thought it was cool and it's a lot closer knit than people realize.
SPEAKER_04I everybody always thinks there's like a borderline or there's a like a war between them. But when you really get to know each other and you start feeding off each other, the only thing you just had to try and rein in was them overwaxing stuff. I was like, don't wax the coping. Don't wax the coping, wax the coping.
SPEAKER_03Don't wax the coping. It fucking melts onto the ramp and then it's a death trap for everybody.
SPEAKER_04I knew if I had a rollerblader at my place, if I go up there and I go do a grind, all of a sudden I'm chasing my board because it left me. I'm like, yep, rollerbladers have been here.
SPEAKER_06Yeah. Son of a bitch. Yeah. I need to put a camera up. Who the fuck was this? No, you need to wax a flat bar or a hand wretched or ledge. Don't wax the coping. Yeah, never wax coping, dude. That's like uh with uh BMX and shit. Like uh because I like I've always known like uh with BMX and rollerbladers, most of those dudes are pretty cool, you know. They're kind of like you know, yeah. And so like I've never really had beef with any of them or anything, but with like rollerbladers, it's like never wax the coping. With fucking BMX, it's like don't you fucking truck stall on that goddamn barricade and monument because that's how that shit's getting chipped up and shit.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, they just they don't understand that when they bail, um, they're throwing like a big piece of metal with that like with somewhere pointy, yeah, pointy spots that like end up damaging, just like man, the scooters and the BMX just working at Kona and trying to maintain the ramps. I mean, they are so hard. A lot of times when they're learning it, they land so low on the tranny, so that just takes a beat beating on the ribs in the in the templates at the bottom of the tranny.
SPEAKER_04You never realize how much damage a scooter could do until you have to go repair it yourself.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, because when they when they bail, you know what I mean, they're just like slinging them out and there's like da-doom-da-doom, you know what I mean? It's I don't know, it's just a different. I'm like, I would welcome inline skater on the ramp with me much quicker than I would be stoked to have a BMX or so. I I don't care. I love whatever, everybody teach their own. I don't hate on anybody and everybody's welcome in my session, but I'm just saying if I had to make a choose with the hierarchy of who I would prefer, if it had to make someone else damage.
SPEAKER_06I got uh I got to meet like I got to meet like a lot of BMXers for Monument shit, and a lot of those dudes were like super cool. They used to buy uh let's just say kale from me and shit, but uh but like a lot of them were cool and everything, and they weren't like the dudes that were like doing the fucked up shit like the other, like the other guys like were the ones that like they did the new characters of it and shit, like doing that shit, like fucking everything up, and like they they hated those dudes just as much as we did because it was like yo dude when I'm trying to do something on something and it's fucked up and got that dividend for somebody fucking up, they're like, and I know it's a biker, I know what biker marks look like, and that shit makes us just as mad as it makes Shaw. I promise you.
SPEAKER_04But you got the people that you truly respect as people like Super Dave.
SPEAKER_03Super Dave! Yeah, but Super Dave will be out there fixing the ramp. Absolutely.
SPEAKER_06You know what I'm saying? He's the first one with a screw gun is exactly exactly superdave is fucked. Man, I love that guy.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, big guy. Super Dave Sorrel's uh do you got Super Dave's number by your chance? Yes, yeah, we definitely need to get it. Yes, I I need to get that from you. That'd be great to have him on.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, I need to get that from you because he's a heck of a person. Yeah, fucking I I always love Super Dave, man.
SPEAKER_03He's always been the radis dude. Yep, and we were even talking about you know, back uh when they didn't let BMX in at Kona when I first saw him, he was he was in there on the on the roller skates. Like I mean, that guy was fucking gnarly, dude.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, who quit strap on a set of go down the bowl. Right? Fucking Super Dave.
SPEAKER_03Super Dave. Super Dave, that's how I got the name.
SPEAKER_06How the fuck do you get a name like Super Dave if you're not a hero?
SPEAKER_03Exactly. Exactly.
SPEAKER_06The son of a bitch walked around with no cape like he was a regular person.
SPEAKER_03He was never a regular person. Yeah, no, for sure.
SPEAKER_04Um, I used to ride my ramp a lot.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, dude.
SPEAKER_04I'd skate my ramp all day with different groups of people.
SPEAKER_05Yep.
SPEAKER_04And like in the morning, then the afternoon session would show up, and then the evening session would show up, and then like, all right, I gotta go get something to eat. I'd come back, and him and his friends would be out there riding, and I'd show up and he goes, Yep, you gotta skate. Man, I've been skating since 11 this morning. He said, Doesn't matter.
SPEAKER_06Gotta do it right.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, do it. Next thing I know they're like 1:30, 2 o'clock in the morning.
SPEAKER_06You gotta get Super Dave's approval on the line, dude. Super Dave was always the most hard of some skateboarders because he was like, I know you can do that correctly. You gotta do it.
SPEAKER_04Oh, he'd get right on our skateboard with you. Yeah, he just he picked up the bike because he he got hurt. Yeah, and um palley was the same way, really good skater. And um he said, I just can't take the skating as much as I used to. Dude. Now the bike's more forgiving. So you've got those people out there that transition into a tiny right now just to keep themselves moving and enjoying the sports. For sure, for sure. They support each other so much.
SPEAKER_06Oh, yeah, for sure. And I think like that's something like different that's like happened. I don't know, maybe like because I don't really see like that uh that camaraderie um throughout like other like in other places and other cities and shit, like in Jacksonville, to where like you know, we support the bikers and the bikers support us because we're all kind of technically on the same team and shit.
SPEAKER_04Go to a contest and like they're gonna have a contest series coming up next year, street related. Um at her office kind of in Kahoots and uh kind of working with Marty Shout out John Norris and they're trying to um work together to start up this contest series again. So it should be kind of interesting. I hope the whole community kind of works together to push it and Conan's gotta make a street course.
SPEAKER_03They're working on it, yeah. They're working on it. Yeah, and in in the plan, I mean I've I've discussed it with Marty for you know a long time, but I mean he's he's got a whole design and a plan, you know, for a low impact kind of like street, all concrete, kind of like street plaza, um with some features that will be like naturally using the landscape, like that whole grassy area in between the vert ramp.
SPEAKER_06You mean the grassy knoll where uh JFK got shot at?
SPEAKER_03No. No, the other one. The other one. The grassy area in between the uh the vert ramp and then the where the street court slab begins because it kind of elevates. He's gonna bring in some rubble and build that up and do a natural, like concrete, like bank, flat bank with like a big rail or banister you talked about there. Yeah, doing other stuff. The back side of that snake turn, he's gonna kind of cut into that and put a sidewalk so you can so pedestrians can easily get from around the pit around the other side. Because the only way to for them to get to one of the other is actually to walk down on the street court slab.
SPEAKER_06Does anybody so else smell that dude? What because I'm pretty sure Bones just took a fucking fat fart on my foot. He probably did. What a dick, dude. He's already stepped on fucking god damn it.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, you you told him not to step on your shoe. Yeah, he he stepped on your shoe with one paw, then you said, Oh, if you step on my shoe again, I'm gonna beat that dog. So the other dog comes along and it steps. Yeah, he came right back around, but then he made sure all four paws touched both shoes.
SPEAKER_06He's a fucking habitual line stepper, dude. It took me 15 minutes to fucking clean my shoes. That's my boy. God damn, dude. These are Raleigh Classics. Show respect. You wouldn't care if you're not. Well, they were white, they're red.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_06Well, yeah, no, the I had I had the original Raleigh Classics all white back in the day, white leather. But these are the reissued uh Raleigh Classics, redoing it. They ran out of white leather leather and they went with red instead. I don't know, man. All I can smell is fucking farting bothering me right now.
SPEAKER_03Let me ask you uh this Well, you don't have COVID. You can smell. You can smell. There you go. Silver lining. There's
Building Ramp Round Two
SPEAKER_03that. Before we uh before we wrap up, I know that you know we've talked about your amazing skate paradise that you had, and I know you've cleared it out, but um I heard that you had purchased a lot of the uh surfacing and stuff from uh from Rick Morgan when he was uh yes tearing everything down. So I'm assuming there's a uh a round two in the works.
SPEAKER_04Absolutely.
SPEAKER_03What's uh what what what are we looking like? What do you think? What you got in mind?
SPEAKER_04I procrastinated for a while, but I managed to save about 55-60 percent of what I had. At the time when I measured the ramp. When I measured that ramp out, it was 50 feet wide and a hundred feet across. So I had 5,000 square foot of ramp, different elevations, metal layer, metal coping, and then the main the main ramp was all skate light.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_04So when I got the stuff from Rick and I told him I didn't have time to take it off, but I was willing to help him with what he was asking because he and Money Crunch.
SPEAKER_06Right.
SPEAKER_04And um Rick's a good dude.
SPEAKER_06Shout out to Rick. Yep.
SPEAKER_04So I got it from him, he took it all off, I kept getting it, and uh I've got it all stacked up, ready to go. And before the wood gouge of 2020.
SPEAKER_03Jesus. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Um I had a good deal on three-quarter plywood, pressure traded. So I've got that center for templates. Oh yeah. I've got all the other two by fours and surfaces and stuff, so I'm going to uh put together a nice spine. I'm gonna go with a nice long spine and a rollover and I kept all I kept a couple of templates from the original. Sweet. And I'm probably gonna I'm gonna work them diligently to try and keep the not keep the kink, but get rid of the little kink at the bottom that I always seem to have. So I'm gonna try and correct that on this new uh new version. I kept all the blocks, so I've just gotta get a few trees out of my way and I've kind of procrastinated and worked on other projects and stuff around the house.
SPEAKER_03And yeah, life happens, trust me. I get it.
SPEAKER_06I know how that's Now when you say a nice spine, like what are we talking here?
SPEAKER_04Um thinking how tall, how wide, basically see. And then the rest of his spine, I'm thinking about 32, maybe 40 feet wide. So it's about a 24 to 30 foot wide spine. Get to the other side, keep it four, except for the 20 foot section. I'm gonna keep the old five and a half foot transition. Hell yeah. And put that where when you go over the rollover, you you go up to the five and a half. Sweet. So I'm I'm gonna try and keep it small because I don't want to go super high because now I'm at fifty, so the last thing I'm gonna do is end up breaking myself off. But yeah, I want something that I can get out there and enjoy it and still have the lights and be able to skate at night and hell yeah. Probably throw a few little barbecues or something out there. It was just really just a matter of getting started on. Once I really get the bug and get the tools from my other projects out there, because that was a thing, is I'm working on a house, working on sheds that I've been building, you know, little projects, all the tools are there. But as soon as I put them towards the ramp, everything else went off.
SPEAKER_03So um have you skated that uh dattle pepper vert ramp at all down there?
SPEAKER_04Uh when it first opened.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, it was uh but I'm not a vert person.
SPEAKER_04I'm just I I respect it. I enjoy the hell out of her seeing it, but I just never. To really push myself to that elevation.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_04The highest I really try to skate and enjoy is like eight foot. I had an intention it was eight foot, and even my tricks on net were just certain ones.
SPEAKER_03Um yeah, well, whenever you get built, man, definitely let me know. I'll any weekend I'm free, I'll definitely come down there and help you out.
SPEAKER_04Appreciate it. Yeah, man.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, but hey, dude, it takes a community effort sometimes. You know, it's like the Amish raise in a barn, dude, especially if you want to skate it, dude. You gotta earn your keep. I'm a firm believer in that. I'll be there to be a good one.
SPEAKER_04I see where a lot of these parks are all going concrete. Like Willie Beaman's got his little place down there. Uh in Texas on Saplands. It's so fun. I'll be there to heckle.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, you know.
SPEAKER_06Oh yeah, because I'll be able to get back on board. Well, I'll be I'll be um recovering from surgery.
Surgery Plans And Staying Driven
SPEAKER_06I get uh surgery at the beginning of this upcoming year. And like it's gonna take me about six months to a year of recovery time. Then it's also gonna depend on what they want to do with my left hip.
SPEAKER_04But you'll be able to you think you'll be able to, once you recover, be able to at least push around and ride?
SPEAKER_06Oh yeah, dude. I got unfinished business on the skateboard, dude. I was like at least you're not done yet.
SPEAKER_03I was like, at least get get get rolling again. You know, take take a while because I definitely know that that hip is it's that can be a long rehab. You don't want you don't want to rush it, but if you do it right, you'll be skating again.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, I'm not I'm not gonna rush it by any means. Like I'm gonna take full I'm gonna take the full amount of recovery time it truly is gonna take me and make sure that I make that leg as strong as possibly that it can be.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, and just keep keep everybody up uh to speed with what's been going on.
SPEAKER_04That's a that's a drive right there. That's a drive of a skateboard. You wanna just no matter what kind of injury or I mean setback you have, you just push yourself to that next next step.
SPEAKER_06You know, like I uh I went I went through like the when I first got diagnosed, I like went through that like, oh, why God, why me? You know, and then like you know, it turned into the thing to where I'm like, oh fuck it, man, I'd rather be me than like my children or any of my friends or family or anyone I love and care about. Like, I'm tough, I'll get through this shit. But um I went and seen the doctor, my surgeon, uh about two weeks ago or so, I think it was probably.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I was gonna say, bring everybody up to speed because we they've been along the journey, so it's been a while since we've addressed it.
SPEAKER_06So um yeah, I went I went and seen the surgeon uh two weeks ago and um kind of got it uh it all kind of figured out. Like I gotta take a uh joint class, which um I told him, like, no, I'm pretty good at rolling with joints, I think I can skip that. Um Yeah, they did not have fun with that joke, dude. There's like you can know your crowd, people, know your crowd. Know your crowd, yeah. Grandma was pissed. But anyways, but um, so yeah, I gotta take a joint class, which is like pretty much like learning how to live with your new joint and everything. And then um I have to get a bunch of like tests done and all like that. And then um once I get a test done and I take this joint class, which I take the joint class on November fifth fifteenth, I go see my primary care doctor on November twenty-eighth, and um so I can get the referrals and everything for all the work like blood work and testing that they want to do.
SPEAKER_04To your body? Yeah, yeah, I gotta versus your body trying to reject something that's been put in it.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, I gotta get like a uh chemistry test done, um blood work done, obviously. And there's another uh type of thing they want me to get done. I'm not a hundred percent sure what it is. It's called like a C D or a C D C testing. But um, and then the doctor doesn't have any openings for surgery until after the beginning of the new year, so that's why it's gonna, you know, I'll have to wait for that. But I want to get everything knocked out and get ready, and then you know, I'm gonna uh I'm gonna quit smoking cigarettes entirely. Uh I'm gonna quit.
SPEAKER_04You're gonna be an asshole. You're you're it's gonna hate you.
SPEAKER_06They're gonna be like looking at it. I will go buy you a pack of cigarettes. I'm gonna quit cool turkey. I'm doing it. Why don't you quit now? Shut the fuck up, dude. I'm just saying, don't talk about it, be about it. I'm gonna go smoke, I'm gonna go smoke a cigarette right now. No, but fucking uh yeah, so I'm gonna quit smoking cigarettes, uh, I'm gonna quit drinking entirely and get my body healed as strong as possibly.
SPEAKER_03So he will not be breaking that pub crawl record till after he's recovered. Yes, yes. When he won't be pub crawling, he'll be pub walking with his new hip. I mean, I'll I'm gonna be pub scrolling.
SPEAKER_06Just make sure you don't fall off the wagon. I'm gonna I'm gonna have my pub crawl walker. Carl's got jokes. I love it. Off the wagon, dude. I had to be on the wagon to get off the wagon.
SPEAKER_03But anyway, hey man, I uh super
Guest Shoutouts And Closing
SPEAKER_03stoked. Appreciate you joining us today, Carl. Thanks for everybody for tuning in. Thank you for having me. Yeah, yeah. Why don't you uh tell everybody are you on social media at all?
SPEAKER_04I just have my Instagram.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, tell everybody where your Instagram is, what's your Instagram handle?
SPEAKER_04It's my name 72 at gmail.com. It's pretty simple. How do you spell your Instagram?
SPEAKER_03Negly72.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, you got you got a weird last name, dude. I'm pretty sure people don't know how to spell it. N-A-E-G-E-L E.
SPEAKER_04There it is. There you go. There you go. They wouldn't let me put all my letters of my name in there. It's actually Carl Maximilian Nagley the second. And if you stand on N, it's just as tall as me.
SPEAKER_03You line those letters up, dude. I got you. I got you. Well, fuck yeah. Well, super stoked. Thanks again, everybody, for tuning in. And as always, peace, love, and skateboarding. Later, y'all.