How to Beat Anxiety in Just 16 WEEKS! (The CHAANGE Get Better Guarantee)

Introducing the CHAANGE in 16 program with a GET BETTER GUARANTEE!

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In this episode, hosts Erica and Dr. Charles Barr introduce their new program, CHAANGE in 16. Drawing upon their personal experiences with anxiety, they passionately explain the specifics and benefits of the program, emphasizing its effectiveness and successful track record over 40 years. The program combines relaxation techniques and cognitive therapy and is designed to be completed at home over a 16-week period. In addition to the structured program, participants will have weekly access to live calls with the hosts and an online community for further support. The hosts are so confident in the program's efficacy, they are offering a money-back guarantee for those who don't improve after following the program for 16 weeks.

00:00 Introduction
00:22 The Excitement and Skepticism Surrounding  CHAANGE
01:16 The Guarantee and Benefits of CHAANGE
03:10 The Effectiveness and Success Stories of CHAANGE
05:38 The Cost of Traditional Anxiety Treatment
15:47 How CHAANGE works and the Get Better Guarantee
28:20 An Invitation to Join CHAANGE in 16

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Transcript

S01E15 A Life Free of Anxiety in Just 16 Weeks... Guaranteed!

[00:00:00] Introduction 

[00:00:00] Erica Roth: Hello, it's Erica again. Today we've got kind of a different episode for you with sort of the best offer you might hear all week. I know it's Christmas time, you're getting offers thrown at you left and right, but seriously, we have found a way to make our Change Anxiety Treatment Program an offer you can't refuse, and that was by very careful detail, and I want you to stay and hear about that.

[00:00:22] The Excitement and Skepticism Surrounding the CHAANGE Anxiety Treatment Program

[00:00:22] Erica Roth: You might hear me get a little excited on this podcast. My husband and I were editing this episode last night. And, uh, he said something like, look how excited you're getting. And I do get excited on this podcast because I get to share some specifics on what anxiety in life was like before and what it became, um, in a very, very short amount of time, 16 weeks.

So I was very skeptical like you, I had spent a ton of money on trying to get better, and I just. I came to the decision that nothing was going to help me and I was just going to get worse because I was definitely getting worse when I found change. So a couple things we're going to cover. The cost and time it usually takes on average to get better.

Why we in CHAANGE see such dramatically different results than what, whatever the world has to offer you. Uh, we've talked about how change helped both Dr. Barr and myself. Dr. Barr was a licensed clinical therapist who thought he knew it all and had his own, um, experience with anxiety. 

[00:01:16] The Guarantee and Benefits of the CHAANGE Program

[00:01:16] Erica Roth: Until he found CHAANGE, but I want you to hear our guarantee because that is, to me, the most exciting thing about this episode is what we're going to share with you that we've come up with for this to work for you, for sure, how we're going to come alongside you.

And just what exciting things have changed. We've offered the CHAANGE Program before. Um, we've had a lot of people jump on and do it individually and they've had great success. But the thing is, is not everybody is a self starter. A lot of people want assistance with the program. We've. I've been asked for that before, um, from Dr. Barr and myself. And so we are offering a Get Better Guarantee to the people who join us for change in 16. So if you join us and commit to 16 weeks doing the program each week and don't get better, we're going to give you your money back. Does that convince you that we think this works? Why would we want to do this if we were just going to have to give you your money back?

So again, this is a different episode, but stick with us. We're going to be on board with you for CHAANGE for the first time ever. We're going to be able to answer your questions and we're going to get into the details of what that means. Um, but we're also giving you a money back guarantee. So here's the episode.

I know I've talked a lot, but here it is.

 Welcome to the Life Free of Anxiety Podcast, where each week we'll bring you another discussion to help you on your way to overcoming your fears. I'm Erica and together with Dr. Charles Barr, a licensed clinical psychologist, specializing in anxiety, we'll be your guides on this journey. Because you are not broken, you are not alone.

And you are on your way to living a life free of anxiety. 

[00:03:05] Dr. Charles Barr: Well, hello Erica. It's good to see you again today. 

[00:03:08] Erica Roth: Yes,

You too. 

[00:03:10] The Effectiveness and Success Stories of the CHAANGE Program

[00:03:10] Erica Roth: I'm really excited about what we have to talk about because we have had some listeners that have heard our whole spiel about how you got better, how I got better using the CHAANGE Anxiety Treatment Program. 

program. And we did. But um, I have to say Dr. Barr. I can't count on how many people I've ever told about the CHAANGE Program.

Like when I first got better after doing the CHAANGE Program, I wanted to tell everybody I knew. Like, you have anxiety, I wanna help you. I want you to do this. 'cause it works so well for 

me. And no matter how many people I told and even sometimes sent the first disc of. Like one person bought. And that's just because there's this belief that I'm gonna invest my money and I'm going to, you know, I'm, I'm gonna put in all this work.

And it's, it just, it's not gonna work. It's not, it worked for you. It won't for me. And I don't have time for something like that. 

[00:04:04] Dr. Charles Barr: That really is one of the big fears it is and that we are trying to overcome is that, okay, it may have worked for you and it worked for 200,000 other people, but it's not gonna work for me. And it's, it's like, but I'm different somehow. 

[00:04:19] Erica Roth: And that's what I thought too, so I get it. 

[00:04:21] Dr. Charles Barr: And it's a big investment, we want you to, to trust us. So that's part of our good news, isn't it? 

[00:04:26] Erica Roth: Mm-Hmm. And that's what working been working on, is we're two people on a podcast who tell you, we got better. 200,000 people got better. But because this is such an isolating disorder. Um, it makes people feel like, you know, that might be true for you, it won't be for me. So we've decided that we need to give you a guarantee that you're gonna get better because we feel so strongly about this.

We have now all decided that we want you to To do the program. And if you've gone through and you tell us you didn't get better we're gonna refund your money because that's how serious we are, that it works 

I have not found that kind of deal anywhere, and we're not stopping there. Um, we're gonna walk alongside you with, um, some weekly things we're gonna be doing live now. Dr. Barr's gonna be coaching, more of us being involved on a weekly basis. Um, so if you're suffering from anxiety or panic, maybe you, you're a longtime listener of us and you've been curious about CHAANGE, this is definitely the episode for you, 'cause where you've got some great things on the table coming up for the new year. Um, I'm sure anybody here listening already knows that there's some major costs that can go into trying to get better.

[00:05:38] The Cost of Traditional Anxiety Treatment

[00:05:38] Dr. Charles Barr: And a lot of people that have come to see me, by the time they find me and they find CHAANGE, they've already spent thousands of dollars. As a matter of fact, the an NIMH study found that the average person will spend about $6,700, that's six thousand seven hundred dollars, um, before they find something to get better, uh, to help them with their anxiety. 

We also found in, in similar studies and in others, that those who do get treatment in the first year, after they've had anxiety, about 71% of them get better. But of the other 38 or 9%, uh, they don't get better in the first year and their recovery rates flatline. And so then, they have a harder time getting better. Uh, It's very different from the results that we get in the CHAANGE Program. In the CHAANGE Program. We get an 81% effectiveness rate in 16 weeks, and that's according to two peer reviewed studies that we've had. And after over 200,000 people overcome their anxiety, including you and me. Uh, people do get better when they finish the program and it's very important for them to finish the program and to, to kind of try to keep up with the program. Some people can't do it in 16 weeks, and I understand that. But if you can, then it's important to kind of keep yourself moving, because you sometimes can delayed or feeling stuck, that you're not progressing the way you, you hoped you would

[00:07:23] Erica Roth: I think That's why we're jumping on board as well. As I said, we're gonna be walking you through week by week because Dr. Barr brought up on the phone recently, a lot of people do have trouble getting through something, um, when there's no teacher.

It's like taking a college course. You know, some people have to go in and some people can do it all online. Um. On their own, but we wanna make sure that we're walking alongside you, um, for this, for the first time. And, you know, when I did the program, I saw Dr. Barr every other week to check in with questions that I had or, or whatever.

This is actually more value than what I got even because we'll be there weekly, um, for questions you have. But go ahead, Dr. Barr. Sorry to interrupt. Keep going.

[00:08:08] Dr. Charles Barr: No, no, that, that's right. We want to be able to come alongside you and to give you other support. And so we're gonna we're be able to answer questions that you have. I mean, we have a frequently asked question section in, in the CHAANGE Program, and I'm sure some of those questions are gonna come up again. 

But we also want to respond to individual people who have questions. And by hearing those answers, we feel like you're gonna gain a lot of insight and, um, it's gonna make you feel less lonely. Feel like you're not the only one in the world who has anxiety. You're gonna hear that there are other people online with you who are experiencing this, and that can all be very, very helpful. 

Now I also want to mention that while studies have shown that CHAANGE has shown an 81% effectiveness rate, we feel like it's even better than that if you are in therapy with someone, or if you are in a group. 

So the average anxiety level out of 10 being the worst, the average anxiety level that we have is, down to a 1.7. Now that's, that's down from an average of like a 7.3 when they first come into the program. So 91% of, of participants, uh, have increased their happiness level, up to a 7.3. So it's the other way. Happiness being great. So we want anxiety to be low and want happiness to be great. So it's up a seven. Um, before the program, people are spending up to seven hours a day in anxiety. That's according to our surveys 

[00:09:59] Erica Roth: That's a lot of time and energy. 

That's a lot of energy. 

[00:10:02] Dr. Charles Barr: That's that's horrible. Uh, you, you don't have any time to just live, you know, if you're spending seven hours day in anxiety! And after the program, they're down to maybe four anxious moments per week, in 16 weeks.

[00:10:18] Erica Roth: And that sounds just like life , right? Four anxious moments a week. That's just life at that point. 

[00:10:25] Dr. Charles Barr: That's right. There's normal anxiety and there's normal moments of anxiety throughout a week. Um, so, so that's why we feel like that change is so effective that we can offer this money back guarantee. Uh. For the 16 weeks, we guarantee that you are going to be better. But if you're not better after those 16 weeks we'll give your money back. 

You mentioned school a while ago. This is a little bit like going to school and if you think about it as I just signed up for a semester in college. But That's also one of the things that we posit, is that people that get this disorder are also very smart and intelligent people. So we feel like you can do homework and you can learn things new, so if you sign up, know that you're signing up to do some homework every week.

[00:11:22] Erica Roth: it's not hard work, you always say, but there is work.

 Work. There's definitely some work to be done. If there wasn't, you wouldn't believe us that we can help you get better. Um, but you know, obviously there's some stuff you need to do, but remember it's not hard. Barr, do do you have people in your office currently who are using the CHAANGE Program that you're seeing?

[00:11:42] Dr. Charles Barr: Yes, I do.

[00:11:43] Erica Roth: Okay. 

So give me a picture. What does it look like after 16 weeks of doing everything we told you to do, walking you through it?

What are the results that you see every day in your office? 

[00:11:57] Dr. Charles Barr: Um, at the end of 16 weeks, the vast majority of those people are back doing a lot of those things that they have been avoiding doing. They may not be doing everything that, that they have avoided, just partly because they may not have had a chance to do it yet. Um.

[00:12:17] Erica Roth: Mm-Hmm.

[00:12:18] Dr. Charles Barr: We talk about in the program there being some really big fears and, uh, we call those biggies. Technical term, biggies.

[00:12:26] Erica Roth: Yes. That's one, the one that really scares 

[00:12:29] Dr. Charles Barr: That's the one that scares you the absolute most, you know? 

Um, and some of those biggies might be like, uh, flying on an airplane. You know, it's like, okay. So I, I was afraid to even go out the door and now I'm out driving again, uh, which was also impossible for me to do. But I can drive now, but I can't, I haven't had a chance to take a, a plane trip yet. Um,

[00:12:56] Erica Roth: Working your way up the list. 

[00:12:57] Dr. Charles Barr: You're working your way up the list, but you already have experienced freedom that you didn't have before. Freedom from the anxiety feelings and freedom from, uh, the restriction that the agoraphobia causes where you're avoiding doing so many things. And so you see yourself getting on with life again, getting back into life, doing the things that you've been avoiding doing. And, uh, that's an important, uh, thing for you to be doing.

[00:13:31] Erica Roth: Yeah. Real quickly, I just wanted to give an example of working with you for 16 weeks. Your coaching was. Amazing. I should say actually through the program, but the program itself had me, a person who , I don't even even think I've said this on the program before, was getting home from the grocery store, let's say having of grocery bags and going out the gate of the apartment garage and up the stairs and around the way to get to my apartment instead of going from you know, up the elevator. And to my place. So basically what I'm trying to say is I was taking a really long way with a ton of grocery bags because I was too afraid and it seemed like I was never going to get on my own elevator, in my own apartment building until, I think it was week 12 with you, week 11, week 12, or something like that.

I started saying, "great, I get home from the grocery store, I have all these bags, and I get outta my car. I get on the elevator and there's my apartment"

I started taking this everyday route that became like nothing to me. And that's, I mean, I'm not lying when I say that. I was doing some a completely different route 10 weeks earlier, whatever it was.

And then by week 10, it's like, "great, I don't have to carry these groceries. I can get upstairs. It's safer. I'm not going out into the street." Anyways, so I just wanted to give 

[00:14:58] Dr. Charles Barr: Which is really, 

[00:14:59] Erica Roth: think I've ever shared that

[00:15:00] Dr. Charles Barr: but, but that's really a phenomenal change for you, and that's the kind of change, that's the kind of change we're talking about. It's like, okay, week 10 you weren't cured. but look at the big shift that happened and the big change that you were then able to do, to free up your life and to not have to take the long way around and not feel scared, uh, at at riding in your own elevator, in your own building. That's, that's, that's the

kind of change that we're, that we're hoping other people will take advantage of and be able to accomplish. And we fully believe that those are things that are accomplishable.

[00:15:44] Erica Roth: Well, let's see how CHAANGE works. 

[00:15:47] How CHAANGE works and the Get Better Guarntee

[00:15:47] Erica Roth: We've got, um, a couple things to break down for you so that you can kind of understand. We know we just say we have a program and, Dr. Barr always explains it as a mix of relaxation with cognitive therapy, but it's done in a very specific way. This is actually mapped out very specifically. The timing is specific. 

How much time we want you putting into it is specific. The whole time you're doing any of this, you're incorporating cognitive therapy and relaxation. And I just wanna say, because I know I was kind of scared, um, when I thought this program might be a little bit of a mystery, I just quickly wanna say, we're not gonna, um, stick you in an elevator make it get stuck.

We're not gonna ask you to get in the car when you're not ready to drive. We, we don't work in like, um, uh, that kind of, what's it called way, Dr. Barr? When, um, like immersion...

[00:16:39] Dr. Charles Barr: That's right. Flooding technique or exposure. 

[00:16:43] Erica Roth: Yeah. We don't, We're not doing that. I just want everyone to know, 'cause I, I realize we've never said that before. Um, we're not gonna do anything scary, because as an anxiety person, we know you're thinking like, I was thinking, what, what are you gonna ask me to do? So we're not gonna ask you to do anything until you're ready. I just want that said.

[00:17:00] Dr. Charles Barr: That's right. And so our job is to encourage you, get you ready, and then encourage you to go ahead and take the step. It's still gonna be a little bit of a scary step, even if you're ready, because you haven't done it in so long. Um, I remember when you and I rode the elevator in my building, I fully, fully felt like you were ready to do that.

[00:17:25] Erica Roth: I didn't. 

Mm-Hmm 

[00:17:28] Dr. Charles Barr: You know, still gonna be scary to do it even when you're and did it, you had a fantastic success.

[00:17:36] Erica Roth: Yes. And I think that I also was scared, but I also wanna add in was my body less scared than 16 weeks ago. Heck yes. I wouldn't have even walked up to the elevator 16 weeks ago, like this was, "okay, this is gonna be a new thing to do. Let's see how I'm gonna take it." But once I got in and tried it, after 16 weeks of preparing my mind and body, my body and mind did not panic.

And that was the difference. I was actually ready, even though I couldn't tell. So that's the difference. We're not gonna, you know, have you do it while you're still like, "oh my gosh, I'm just miserable. Don't get me near it." No, that's not the point of this. That's not, you know, how we're not gonna do anything terrible like that.

Um, and real, real quickly, what about CHAANGE groups? Um, well, Dr. Barr's run 'em before these are even more effective. 

[00:18:29] Dr. Charles Barr: CHAANGE groups are very effective. That's rIght.

[00:18:32] Erica Roth: And I'm sure anybody knows that's true just from joining any group setting and any lecture or you know, anything they've done before. 

[00:18:39] Dr. Charles Barr: Well, I was gonna say, um, the, the ironic thing about change groups is people get better and leave. Um, 

and

[00:18:49] Erica Roth: I know too bad for you ,

[00:18:50] Dr. Charles Barr: The CHAANGE groups that I've run, the people have gotten better and they left. They, they go away,

[00:18:57] Erica Roth: So they're not clients!.

[00:18:57] Dr. Charles Barr: They're not clients anymore. Now, I might, I might hear 

from one or two of them, later on in life. Um, but they, they got better. They left. They're not seeing me weekly. They're not stuck in therapy forever. Uh, we really do want this to be, you're, you're in treatment for 16 weeks. You're learning how to do this differently and to defeat anxiety and to live life without scaring yourself. And it is a specific structure. It is the timing of the program, and we've had success with it for over 40 years, so we know what we're talking about. But we really want you to come and be part of this group, and move along in your life. 

[00:19:49] Erica Roth: And Dr. Barr, something I hadn't even realized is there's a certain amount of our people who are listening to us, that are home bound, they are not able to get to, uh, you know, to your office, for instance, and, and get this program. This is a way to, you know, get coaching from Dr. Barr, who's a licensed clinical therapist and hear his insight and wisdom on the program, and do things from the comfort of your home until you're ready.

We show you how. So, for this to have moved online, CHAANGE used to be all pen and paper but we're kind of coming to you now, which is pretty incredible. Um, I know I would've jumped on this when, know, if this had been offered to me in the condition I was in.

 I mean, I, I was able to visit you, but I did have to take the stairs to get to your office at first. But yeah, I think it's amazing that we're coming to your house and adding these additional resources to make sure that people finish the program because we're gonna keep you on track so just to go over again, this is gonna be a 16 week program for a limited group of participants.

We want you to sign up. One of my favorite things to do is always read the after results, like, oh my gosh, I get to imagine this person living their life now and they have a happiness level of nine.

We're gonna include weekly coaching as well as a weekly live call with Dr. Barr and myself, um, and others here at CHAANGE, whoever that may be. And if you can't make the calls, so let's say we're on different time zones, um, we're gonna have you submit questions ahead of time to be answered.

Additionally, there's gonna be an online community just for CHAANGE, where you can find encouragement, accountability, and support. And that's only if you want yourself out there. That's, that's optional. If you wanna be a part of that, because we respect confidentiality. If you commit to the 16 weeks like I spoke about earlier, and you do everything we ask of you and you don't get better, we're gonna give you your money back.

I don't know how you could lose . This is, this is the best offer I've seen in a long time! 

[00:21:50] Dr. Charles Barr: Well, that, that's about as safe as we can ever make it. And, and I do understand people's skepticism because, um, I know most people have tried two or three different therapists. They have tried, uh, different methods. They may have been on medication, they may still be on medication. If you're still on medication, that's okay. Uh, and work with us anyway. Uh, it, you don't have to be off of medication. Uh, sometimes medication is necessary and required and is a good thing, until you can learn the skills to be able to possibly get off the medication and we will encourage you to get off your medication if you can... 

[00:22:33] Erica Roth: Which I did. 

[00:22:35] Dr. Charles Barr: Yeah, over a period of, of 16 weeks, that's four months. Um, that's, that's the semester of school and you can change your life in that amount of time, which, for a disorder that has disabled so many people and shrunk their worlds down, to make them so small and to make them make life difficult in many, many ways. That's a phenomenal thing. 

[00:23:03] Erica Roth: It is phenomenal. 

[00:23:05] Dr. Charles Barr: If If I could guarantee, and if you would, if you would believe my guarantee that you are gonna be free of anxiety. And it is our belief, our sincere belief, because we're willing to make this money back guarantee to you that if you'll join the program, you will do what we ask, even if you think it won't work, you do what we ask. And I had to do that when I did the program. They were asking me to do some things that, as a psychologist, I looked at and I, I, I laughed at some of it. Some of it made me angry. Uh, some of it I thought was absolutely ridiculous, and I had to talk to myself and say, "Charles, they asked you to do what they said, whether you agreed or not, whether you thought it would be useful or not. So do it! What's it going to hurt?"

[00:24:02] Erica Roth: Mm-Hmm.

[00:24:03] Dr. Charles Barr: It didn't hurt and so I did it, and what I found is I found myself being surprised that it worked.

[00:24:10] Erica Roth: As a licensed clinical psychologist, it's sad to say, okay, I get it. I'm, I'm smarter than all this, but I'm gonna not be smarter than all this for a second. And then, whoa, it worked. And somebody who also was experiencing anxiety with that fancy license and, and, you know, practice that you have in Los Angeles, you had to say.

"I thought I knew everything and, and I didn't." 

And, and I only know that because you experienced anxiety yourself after a traumatic experience with an earthquake, which I, I love to tell your story 'cause I think it's really cool. I, I just think it's so unique and so cool. It's, it's like, it's like what movies are made of or something like that.

I don't know. I just like it.

[00:24:54] Dr. Charles Barr: yeah, 

[00:24:57] Erica Roth: You know, so this, it kind of, it goes to show this program can be used for psychologists who think they know everything, who are experiencing panic. It might be for the 20 something girl that I was, you know, not able to take her elevator, having panic attacks at night.

As a newlywed. It might be for a veteran who served our country. Um, Dr. Barr, you know, um, this program does wonders for somebody who's dealt with trauma, um, because of the, of the relaxation and, and cognitive therapy to get back on track to getting the nervous system, um, in the right place again. Um, we see this, you know, I, I, I know we see this in, in, um, people who are firemen and police officers, sometimes they, you know, they see some hard stuff for sure every day and they they end up having panic attacks. 

Um, this is for them, this is for everybody. This is really for everybody who is panicking, who wants to get their life back. And that's, I mean, you wouldn't, nobody would be listening to us if they weren't looking to get their life back or, you know, to stop the panic 

we're not gonna waste anyone's time, if you know, by trying to say, we're just here to hang out with you, . 

[00:26:10] Dr. Charles Barr: No, that's right. No Panic is so, so, so punishing. it's, it's it's just such a punishing kind of experience and we want to end the punishment and get you back, um, freeing your, freeing yourself from the anxiety, get yourself back on track to go on and live life, um, and get on with it. We don't want you to become a professional patient. Um. We don't want you to become, uh, dependent on us. We want you to be able to reassure yourself and.

[00:26:52] Erica Roth: Yep. And so again, we're doing this kick kickoff group January 7th, and it's limited in size. 16 weeks. We expect everyone who signs up to commit to the program and for every single one of them to get better, um, you can find details at lifefreeofanxiety.com/podcast.

That's lifefreeofanxiety.com/podcast. It's gonna be right at the top or click the link in the podcast show notes, um, to get on board with us, which we strongly suggest you do.

[00:27:27] Dr. Charles Barr: Absolutely we are excited to offer this to you and we hope that you'll, uh, take this seriously. We're offering you your life back and to free yourself from anxiety. That's why we chose that name, Life Free of Anxiety. We want you to be free of anxiety so that you can then choose to live your life the way you choose.

[00:27:53] Erica Roth: That's right. I think that about covers it until next week. We hope you'll join us. We really would love to see you there. We think it's so cool to see you from the beginning, to the middle, to the end. We have some great stuff ahead. There's no reason not to join us, so check us out again, uh, lifefreeofanxiety.com/podcast or click the link in the show notes.

[00:28:18] Dr. Charles Barr: We hope to see you January 7th!

[00:28:20] An Invitation to Join CHAANGE in 16

[00:28:20] Erica Roth: And that's the episode. I'm really excited about CHAANGE in 16. I don't think we ever mentioned the name of this group, but it's CHAANGE in 16. And I really, really, really, really hope you'll join us. One of our favorite things in the world is seeing what people write before and after about their experience with change.

But being able to get to know some of you this time is what I'm really excited about. So in 16 weeks, we guarantee that if you follow the step by step process, you will get better or pay nothing. So if you're ready to make 2024 the year you beat anxiety, head to lifefreeofanxiety.com/podcast and see if spots are still available.

That's lifefreeofanxiety.com/podcast and see if spots are still available. I can't wait to see you inside and we will talk to you next week.

Thanks so much for tuning in today. I hope that something in today's conversation provided you with a feeling of hope, determination, or purpose. I know what you're going through, and that's why I want to give you some of the tools that helped me in my anxiety journey to get a free copy of free from fears head to freefromfearsbook.com to find out more about the CHAANGE Anxiety Treatment Program.

Find us at CHAANGE.com Thanks again for listening. And remember you are not broken You are not alone and you are on your way to living a life free of anxiety. See you next week.