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MFREE 098 Trailer # 5 with Brett Swarts: Are You Chasing Goals or Actually Growing?

Shelon Hutchinson Season 3 Episode 98

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Most people set goals. But what happens when you hit them—or worse, miss them? 🤔 In this episode, Brett Swarts breaks down the difference between a growth mindset and a goal mindset—and why one leads to lasting success while the other keeps you stuck.

He shares how relentless self-improvement, resilience, and pure hunger helped him go from local broker to nationally recognized leader, proving that mindset matters more than experience. 💡🏆 Inspired by John Maxwell’s leadership principles, this conversation is about playing the long game, pushing past failure, and measuring success by growth—not just results.

If you're feeling stuck or questioning your progress, this episode will challenge how you think about success! 🎧🔥

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A growth mindset versus just a goal mindset. A goal mindset is you just get there and you achieve the thing and you get stuck, Whereas a growth mindset is, no matter what, I'm just gonna keep growing regardless of the results or the immediate outcome. I'm going to keep growing and eventually if that guy can do it, I can do it. I would show up and I'd say, that guy's not working as hard as me. That guy's not as hungry as me. Yeah, that guy's more experienced. And he's smarter than me right now. I go, but I'm going to catch them all. I'm going to catch up. And, that drove me. I just kept, I kept going and going until here we are now, no longer just in Sacramento selling multifamily. We're national and we're helping all brokers across the country and all high net worth individuals and M& A attorneys like it's a thrill to be on this side. So that's what I would say would help me get through it. Now that is amazing, man. It's not like he was definitely on fire. And it's really cool to hear your story because, one of the things that you mentioned that our leader, John Maxwell talks about. Is the focus on growth over the goals, right? Especially a lot of folks just came out of January and they did a lot of goal setting, right? But how much of that goal setting was focused on growth, right? And when you don't accomplish. All your goals throughout the year. How much did you grow and your ability to measure backwards, And be able to be proud of yourself and your accomplishment. Be like, I did that. I didn't die and I didn't quit.