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Being present where your feet are changes everything about parenting - Brad Bialy - Haley Marketing
What does it mean to be truly present as a father while building a successful career? Brad Bialy, head of marketing at Haley Marketing and host of the Secrets of Staffing Success podcast, tackles this question head-on in this refreshing conversation about modern fatherhood.
Brad opens up about his greatest parenting challenge: being intentional with his time while juggling professional responsibilities from his home office. "The hardest part for me is making the change from work mode to dad mode," he admits, highlighting the difficulty many remote-working parents face without the traditional commute serving as a transition buffer. His wife's mantra—"be present where your feet are"—has become his guiding principle.
The conversation dives deep into how Brad's own upbringing shaped his parenting philosophy. Raised with the core belief that "everything is earned and nothing is owed to you," Brad aims to instill this same blue-collar Buffalo work ethic in his young children. When asked what values he hopes his children embody fifteen years from now, his answer is beautifully straightforward: "I want them to be good people, respectful, and hardworking."
Perhaps most fascinating is Brad's perspective on integrating work and family life. Rather than keeping these worlds separate, he embraces their overlap—even starting client presentations by acknowledging his children might make an appearance on the call. This authentic approach reflects his belief that being the best marketer requires being the best version of himself as a father and husband, too.
Whether you're a new parent navigating work-from-home challenges or a seasoned dad looking to be more present, Brad's insights offer practical wisdom for striking that elusive balance. His journey reminds us that parenting isn't about perfection but intention—and sometimes the most powerful thing we can do is simply be where our feet are.
Listen now to gain valuable perspective on finding meaning in both professional success and everyday parenting moments. Then share your own experiences on social media—we'd love to hear how you're balancing these worlds in your own life.
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Hi, I'm Riley and I'm Ryder, and this is my dad show.
Speaker 3:Hey everybody, it's Casey Jaycox with the quarterback dad cast. Welcome to season six, and I could not be more excited to have you join me for another year of fantastic episodes and conversations really unscripted and raw and authentic conversations with dads. If you're new to this podcast, really it's simple. It's a podcast where we interview dads, we learn about how they were raised, we learn about the life lessons that were important to them, we learn about the values that are important to them and really we learn about how we can work hard to become a better quarterback or leader of our home. So let's sit back, relax and listen to today's episode on the Quarterback Dadcast. Well, hey, everybody, it's Casey Jaycox with the Quarterback Dadcast. Welcome again to season six. I'm grateful for all you dads and there's some moms out there, grandmas and grandpas, whoever else listened. Thank you for your support. The fact that I've interviewed over 300 something dads feels amazing, but we have a quest to get to a thousand. That's my, my stretch goal to myself, which means I'll be doing this for a while and, never know, maybe my son or daughter will be kind of be part of the team. They get down to college helping dad interview other dads.
Speaker 3:But, um, our next guest? Um, I was lucky enough to be on his show. Um, his name is Brad Bailey. He is the uh, he's a head freaking marketing cheese over at the fantastic Haley Marketing. He also is the host of the Secrets of Staffing Success podcast. He might be a Rochester Rattler. He also does game-based support for National League Lacrosse for the lacrosse fans out there. But, with all that said, that's not why we're having him on today. We're having Brad on because we want to learn more about Brad the dad and how he's working hard to become the ultimate quarterback or leader of his household. So, without further ado, mr Biley, welcome to the Quarterback Dadcast.
Speaker 2:Happy to be here, Casey, how you been my man I've been good, I've been good.
Speaker 3:A lot's changed since we last spoke. I got, let's see, I have a sophomore in college. Now I have a junior, now a senior starting her senior year. She's committed to play basketball where I played football in college, which was like the epitome of an uncle Rico moment. Yeah, so cool. But yeah, it's been. Life's been good Yourself.
Speaker 2:Things are good. Little man is done with daycare as of today, so he's going to go into pre-K over at a local school over here and my youngest daughter starts daycare next week. So we're at this weird lull where the last week and a half everyone's been at the house and next week I'm going to be all alone man for the first time in like three and a half four years. So it's going to be different, but things are going really well over here.
Speaker 3:There we go. Well, we always start out each episode with gratitude, so tell me, what are you most grateful for as a dad today?
Speaker 2:We're heading into a long weekend, so I'm most grateful for time. Um, I I'm finding having the ability just to have time is very important to me lately. Right, we all have a lot of things going on. Um, I don't need to tell you that. I don't think I need to tell the listener that either, but when you're running in a hundred different directions, having a Monday off or dipping out early on a Friday to have just a little extra time ahead of a holiday weekend, I am grateful for time.
Speaker 3:What do you think that comes from that mindset?
Speaker 2:I've learned I need to be a little more intentional lately, Right? So as I have time and as I try to find pockets of time, I try to be intentional with every minute, right? I think it's easy to multitask, or at least try to multitask. And probably a conversation with my wife at some point and thinking through you know, listen if you're, I know she always says be present where your feet are. Um, that whole mentality she was saying Rich was saying quite a bit a little while ago and I learned from that. So, yeah, having time is important, but also using that time wisely and not saying like listen, yeah, I have Monday off so I can do a bunch of stuff, right, Like, actually be present and be the dad I want to be is important, Love it, man.
Speaker 3:I remember when I was a younger dad. Uh, I remember people told me like ah, time goes fast, man, enjoy it. I'm like what are you?
Speaker 1:talking about.
Speaker 3:It was like cliche cliche, cliche, and I was listening and I was coachable, but I just didn't hit home. But, dude, I got a 19 year old in college and a senior in high school and I feel like I could be just right where you were with your. I literally can see my. I can see my daughter coming into our driveway and her bike skidding out. For the first time I thought it was hilarious. Yeah, that was what. 13, 16 years ago. Oh my God, it's crazy. Um, all right, and not to get too sappy here.
Speaker 3:So what I'm grateful for is I love the time. That's a great answer, I think, for me. What I'm grateful for today I actually recorded another podcast this morning, but I'm going to give some. So I'm grateful for some growth I've seen in my son around mindset and that's something we talk a lot about in our family, cause I think I'm one. I've learned a lot about the mind, the power. The mind, the power of our self-talk, the words we say to ourselves, just how you show up. You can beat most people in life just by how you show up, how you, how you're mentally prepared versus you, attacking the day versus the day attack you. And it's like I'm not looking to win everything. But I'm just like, if you want to be your best. And so I gave, right at this little kind of like half pep talk that just came to me, and right when he was leaving the hotel room last weekend when I dropped him off for college, I said, you know, I learned the power of the word believe right at age 41. I wish I had learned it in my early 20s or even your age. I said just believe what you do matters, believe in everything possible. And then, secondly, commit with your fullest Golf shot, commit to your, once you've made the decision, you're, you're in your pocket, committed, and whatever the outcome is, you can't control that, but if you've committed to be your best for that shot, for that, whether that test or that friendship, whatever it may be, just commit. And then, lastly, I said remember that the most sick, the most talented and dangerous golf club in your bag is not in your golf bag, it's in your mind, your mindset, and it just like kind of.
Speaker 3:I saw, like a little, his head come up back and then I texted it to him and he goes dad, I wrote what you said to me, I wrote it down on my little golf scorecard and it's since then. I didn't realize the impact it had, but it had an impact on me as I reflect on it. But like it's, it's changed him. He's not coming in with these expectations. Like I got to shoot 68 today, he just I'm just going to go have fun and whatever. And he's playing out of his mind right now is that first tournament he shot two under, took fourth out of 180 guys. Um, he, he made it like a thing I told you right before we started recording, made it a championship flight, took a senior yesterday to 25 holes playing an event match right now. And so I just tell him again dude, golf does not define you and I'm just grateful for having these types of talks with my son. It's super fun.
Speaker 2:It's probably easy for that imposter syndrome to show itself and present itself when you're golfing right, that that you know, as you approach the ball, either the I don't know if I have it in me to make this shot, or you know, I don't know if that shot's in the bag. I mean, that thought is crippling at times if you can't get out of your own head Right. So I I totally agree that the, the what'd you say? The hardest club is in your mind.
Speaker 3:I said, the best club you have, the most, the most dangerous club you can use to your benefit is not your bag, it's in your mind.
Speaker 2:A hundred percent. A hundred percent. It could also be the worst club, right? So I think, flipping that mentality, exactly as you're teaching and as you're working with him on, I couldn't agree more right. It's the best and worst club, depending on how you use it and capitalize on it.
Speaker 3:Spot on, man. Well, bring me inside the Biley huddle. I want to learn how you and your wife met and then tell me about um, tell me about each, each of your children.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so we met in high school actually. Uh, we used to work together. We were. We were both dating different people at the time. Um, didn't really work out at the time. Like I said, we were with other people and found each other again in college, started dating then and have been together now for quite some time. So one of those situations where we were just kind of in each other's lives at different points and I guess the right time but also the wrong time found each other again and realized that we wanted to be with each other. So we've been together now since college, been married now going on seven years, and now we have two little kids over here, bryce and Blair. So things are going really, really well for us.
Speaker 3:Very cool and what I mean. Obviously, bryce and Blair are young, but tell me what? What are the things they're into that like bring a smile to their face during the day? Gotta be.
Speaker 2:Paw Patrol, my man, if it's not Paw Patrol. Or just outside running around my little guy honestly one of the most creative brains I've ever seen, and I mean he's three and a half right, so it's hard not to get into dad mode and be like this kid's going to be an artist or this kid's going to be so creative.
Speaker 3:But he's an ex-Michaelangelo.
Speaker 2:Right, no-transcript. I mean Blair's just starting to bop around and do her thing, so she's developing her own personality, but she's taken right after him.
Speaker 3:Very cool Now, before I get going into some other stuff lacrosse was that a sport you loved growing up playing?
Speaker 2:No, I actually never played. I'm sorry. I played one year but it was a conflict with baseball and I was a baseball player. So I mean I played when I was probably fifth or sixth grade. But somebody that used to work at Haley Marketing played for the Rattlers. They needed someone to run social for a while, for a season. So he got me in contact with the right people. That's the outdoor league, the Rochester Rattlers met Charlie Raguse over there who's now a really good friend of mine. He also worked for the Nighthawks, the indoor league.
Speaker 2:So when the the summer league ended in the off season I then moved over to indoor lacrosse, worked for the Nighthawks for a few seasons. The Nighthawks actually moved to Halifax so when that team folded the league had an opening for game day social coordinator at the league level. So I applied and they at that point had already seen sort of my track record in the league and what I was doing, just kind of putting in the work to get to that point where I could have that conversation Applied, had the conversation had the, I guess, interview. It wasn't much of an interview, it was just a really good conversation with Scott Turkin at the time who was my boss at the time and I've been with him since. So I've been with the league. I've been in pro lacrosse seven or eight seasons.
Speaker 3:I've been with the league, I think four or five and the league, I think four or five, and it's kind of just progressed that way. Very cool, love it. I, uh I don't know much about lacrosse. My, my daughter's boyfriend plays lacrosse, so I got to learn a little bit more before he went off to college. But I he he's a MIDI I think that's what they call them and just would just blow dudes up. So fun to watch.
Speaker 2:It's fun, man. I I love indoor um, probably a little bit more than outdoor at this point. They're both fun. I've I have grown to really love being around the sport. The sport's been very good to me, very good to my family, presented us with a lot of really good opportunities. I've met some fantastic people because of it that I wouldn't have had the chance to meet if not for Kyle Denhoff, who used to work at Haley Marketing. So it's very. I know you're big on the word serendipity, um. So it's very. I know you're big on the word serendipity, um, but it's very, very interesting how just having one connection can lead you down an entire, almost 10 year path that never would have happened without one connection.
Speaker 3:Relationships, baby, yeah Right. Have you ever heard of the book? Have you ever heard of the book called the slide edge? I have that's kind of my favorite. Yeah, me too. It makes me think of that. Like each of these relationships has been slight edge moments for you and the little doors are open. But what do you do? Do you keep being curious and seeing where it goes? Or you just get complacent and be? You know it's like if you're curious and be lifelong learner, those doors are going to keep opening, right, right, a hundred percent.
Speaker 3:Um, all right, man. Well, I want to go back in time and learn about what was life like for Brad growing up and talk about the impact mom and dad had on you now that you're a dad, huge impact.
Speaker 2:I mean life was good growing up, right. I mean we went to Catholic school growing up, played sports, good student, decent student. Let's not say I was a good student, I was a decent student. I very much leaned into the C's, get degrees mentality, but I was a good student, hard worker for the things I cared about, right. And that's kind of where I think school was difficult for me is it's just if it wasn't a passion of mine, I wasn't 100 percent at it, but if there's something that I care about even to this day, if I get passionate about something, it's very hard to pull it away from me. I mean you and I just talked on my show about the marathon that I ran, right, and it was just because of something my wife said became who I was. I'm still an active runner because of it, because it's a strong passion. If I wake up tomorrow and all of a sudden I don't like to do it anymore, we'll be done. But I mean growing up.
Speaker 2:I think probably one of the biggest lessons my parents taught me was that everything is earned and nothing is owed to you. So it's this mentality that you don't necessarily deserve anything, you have to work for everything that you have, and that's something that I, to this day, hold very true and I think what we'll start to present to the kids right I mean, we're, I got two little ones right. So when you think about molding and coaching and laying down the framework, you know right now it's still, you know, learn right from wrong and do this, don't do that kind of stuff. But you know, one of the biggest lessons, I think, for my parents was definitely work hard, work for what you want. If there is something that you do want, set your sights on it and get it. But they're not going to give it to you. No one's going to give it to you, so you have to go out and earn it and prove to yourself that you can do it.
Speaker 3:Tell me what mom and dad did for work.
Speaker 2:Mom is in medical billing and my dad runs an auto shop.
Speaker 3:Are they still together?
Speaker 2:Absolutely.
Speaker 3:Very cool, very cool.
Speaker 2:A while.
Speaker 3:Did he pass down some of the grease monkey skills to you?
Speaker 2:Absolutely not, absolutely not. I actually I just took my car into the shop the other day cause I was, I was due for an oil change and an inspection, um, and I, I mean, I work from home, so when I need an oil change it's because, like, my car was due technically, like last November, but the mileage, the mileage just hit because I don't drive my car. So it's one of those things where it's like, listen, man, you're still good, you're good, you like you should probably get it in here. Um, but but I mean, I, I am not any sort of hands-on kind of guy. No, uh, I am much more of the you know, pay somebody to get it done kind of guy.
Speaker 3:Um, no, he didn't, he didn't pass that on to me I always say the world needs less people like me who can type and talk.
Speaker 2:We need more people who can fix things well, I mean I I think we're going to go especially that way with ai and automation and things that you know digital is kind of reshaping right. I think we sent an entire generation of kids to school to be coders and deep thinkers and we've learned with gemini and claude and chat gpt that in some ways those jobs are going to be very tough to maintain and prove value in a couple of years. So I think the blue collar type of worker I mean, listen, a, I can't fix my leaky faucet right now and maybe we'll get to a point where there will be a tool where it can. But as of right now, if I have a clog and I don't know how to get rid of it, I got to call somebody right. Chatgpt can analyze my data right now if I want it to. So it's very interesting how sort of that landscape has shifted.
Speaker 3:Yeah, besides working hard and the mindset of nothing's owed to you, which I think is a really good mindset to have, because it's obvious we never want to be complacent. If you think about like two or three values that mom and dad taught you that maybe still are top of mind for you, and then maybe a story that back of how you learn those values is something, tell me what comes to mind.
Speaker 2:It's a good one. I don't know if it's necessarily value driven Maybe we can work it into a value but I remember, um, it kind of goes along the hard work and just always set your sights on sort of the goal and where you're looking to be Right. So, um, I remember I used to play guitar in Buffalo quite a bit and I tell this story when I'm, when I'm speaking or presenting quite often. But I used to play guitar quite a bit and I remember, coming after one show, coming home, my mom noticed I was visibly upset and you know she said what's going on? What's wrong? Yeah, you know I played well. She said, okay, so what's going on? She's like, well, there's only one person there and it was the girl behind the counter making coffees. And I remember her to this day saying Brad, it doesn't matter if there's one person or a hundred people there, you play your show, you play the best you can and you play as if it's one or a hundred or a thousand people, even if I'm speaking now. Right, I have probably.
Speaker 2:You know I run a weekly podcast. I do probably two to three monthly webinars. I travel for Haley Marketing five to seven times a year. I get in front of different crowds and audiences and it's still to this day, one person or a room of a thousand people, it doesn't matter to me. I play the exact same set list. You know proverbial set list. I do the exact same talk regardless, and I think there's a value there in the sense of stay true to yourself, stick to what it is that you know, work hard right and set the standard right.
Speaker 2:Set the standard not only for others but also for yourself and hold yourself to that standard. It's kind of interesting. We have a whiteboard downstairs which probably could have been a different value, but we have a whiteboard downstairs where I wrote on it for my wife to see. She just noticed it the other day too. It says they're always watching, set the standard, and I think that's important, right, because you find yourself every now and again fading into a habit that you don't love or whatever it might be. And just to remember that I'm setting the standard not only for myself now, but now there are others, there's little eyes watching. That's super important.
Speaker 3:They are. And I tell you, the kids watch more than you think. So it's good that you're self-aware of that. As a younger dad, I mean, I think about like exercise, like for us, fitness has always been important in our house and, um, even when, like you know, kind of old man injury I was, I wanted to shovel a bunch of bark and uh, and then I went and played golf when I didn't realize I didn't stretch, but like I immediately got tennis and golfers elbow. So I was like Matt 10, I had us both sides. It's, it's an absolute nightmare. Right now I'm like like you gotta be kidding me. So now I'm like did I try to prove myself I could do all this bark work for myself? And then I went and played golf, right, away which is stupid.
Speaker 3:I'm not 15, I'm almost 50, yeah, so now, but but doesn't mean I can't, my legs still work, my stomach still works. So, like my son or daughter, like, hey, dad, you, you're gonna be on the silent show, but I'm like, no, I can still run and walk. Yeah, I can still do sit-ups, and so it's like that mindset of like again, we're not gonna make excuses because something doesn't work. We can still do something, you can still get better at something, and so I think that's something me my wife always worked hard on. I don't know if I learned that from my crossfit back in the day, but problem um, what, uh? Did you have siblings?
Speaker 2:no, no, just me. Yeah, just me. We had a dog. Um yeah, we had a little white dog for a while, but uh, no, just me.
Speaker 3:Okay, cool. Um as you think back, um, as you think back to your one of your either your favorite childhood memories or your hardest childhood memories, maybe one of either is there a story that comes up that you can't wait to tell your kids to help grow in their journey as humans.
Speaker 2:That's a good question Childhood no Top of mind, though really the only thing that might come to mind in that type of scenario is college. So I know, freshman year or sophomore year I wanted to join the student government and I applied to be I'm not even gonna remember the title now, but it was like two or three layers below the marketing director of student government and I wanted the job. I wanted to get more involved on campus. It was sophomore year, freshman year, I didn't really do a whole lot, didn't get the job, but kind of stuck with it. And my senior year applied and actually got the marketing director job Right. So I think the lesson there is is kind of just again, stick with it, be persistent, know what you want and go after and get it. But I think about, you know, childhood, you know challenges or things growing up. Nothing's really coming to mind off the top of my head. Um, no, that's probably what I got for you.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, I just I was intrigued because I, as I think I've had moments of like these flash moments or like big growth moments in my life, younger or older, and sometimes you tell your kids the stories you know, shameless self-plug. Here, in chapter three, my book talks about the difference between hearing and listening. Well, my kids, sometimes they heard me a lot and they were grown up they didn't listen to me. And as I get older in life, there's been times where they'll be like, oh wait, I don't remember that dad Like, or um, or I don't, I don't remember that this bud, oh sure, now they're ready to listen, versus just like hearing me.
Speaker 3:And I think the reason I also ask that too, brad, is, I think the big I'd say three things that not only drive my consulting business but also as podcasts is I'm looking for dads to be as humble as they can, vulnerable as they can and curious as they can. So I think when those three emotional you know, intelligence skills are present, they create great cultures. It removes ego, keeps people in constant learning mode and makes people realize that no one's perfect. We're all in this journey of life together. And I think sometimes, dads, you know whether you're the head of marketing or you. You do what I do, or you're the stay at home dad. You're a bus driver. Like I always say to dad, our kids don't give two shits what we do.
Speaker 2:I say that all the time. I um, you know I'll go out and I'll travel for Haley and I'll speak, and you know I could be in a room of a couple hundred people, right, and you're taking the stage and you're commanding the stage. In front of you know, 300 people and everyone's looking at you and all eyes are on you. And so you come home. You still got to take the garbage out, man, and you still gotta you still gotta pick up the Legos and uh, he and I he was a keynote at another conference I was at and he told me always love coming home more than you love leaving, and that was something that has stuck with me since that's probably three or four years ago.
Speaker 2:He said that to me. But you know, back to your comment of you know you come home and it's just a different vibe, right Again, you know I could be on stage in front of a couple hundred people and when you're in that room and you're in that setting, it's all eyes are on you and you come home and it's like listen, yeah, but you know garbage has got to go out, lego's got to get picked up, there's a bunch of blocks and you know, play food all over the place, maybe even real food, and it's. I love that part of it.
Speaker 3:Right, I think it's dads. I hate to call some dads out there and be like God, honey, what are you talking about? I just I did all this stuff. I just got home. Who cares Dads? Yeah, it's a team, bro. We got to suck it up and if let's say, your, your spouse, stays at home, her job's a lot harder than ours. Yep, we got to talk to humans. We got to do no, I'm just saying our job's not hard, but a partnership. I learned quickly as a young dad. I either can push back on itself or I can say you know what One of my favorite pieces of advice my leader early in my career gave me. He goes you want to be right or do you want to get what you want? And I want to get what I want, which means healthier marriage, more time with my wife. So it's like let's just freaking do this together, and so I love that you're seeing that as a younger dad.
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Speaker 2:I'm trying man, I think we're all making it up as we go right there's no manual.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean you're still making it up, right. You said you're 300 something episodes in, right, and you're led by general curiosity, which is the same sort of concept of my show. In that show I'm curious about the sales process and marketing and recruitment marketing, right. So it's a little different, obviously. But there is no manual. But hearing again that Andre Young, we're sitting on a bus going to dinner together at a conference and he says always love coming home more than you love leaving, and it's like those what seven, eight words have stuck with me now for five years, and it's like these little tidbits, right, like somebody listening might catch one five word sentence that I say that could change some framework for a little bit and that'd be awesome. Or they'll listen to another episode that you put together and they might listen to the whole hour but catch one sentence and that could hook them for the next four or five years. That's what we're after, right.
Speaker 3:Yeah, totally. What's the hardest part of being a dad so far for you?
Speaker 2:hardest part of um of being a dad so far for you Great question, um, for me it's setting boundaries in terms of time, right. So I said I'm I'm trying to be more intentional with my time lately. You know, I work from home. Everyone's here Um, the hardest part for me is either shutting off from one I don't phase is the wrong word, but one, I guess, component of me and switching into the other right, Like, like, right now, we'll end this, I'll go downstairs and it's right.
Speaker 2:In the dad mode there's no evening commute where I can shift and I have that like 20 to 30 minute reset button A lot of times I'll go for a run after work or I'll, you know, do something to try to. You need that, um, you just need that middle section right To do something to switch from okay, from going from A to B. I think the hardest part for me is making the change from okay, right now. Be present with what you're doing. Nothing else matters. Be present doing what you're doing here, and and kind of. I try to live sort of fluid and it's very difficult at times. I'm getting better at it, um, but that's that's difficult for me. And then I think the other part and and um, kind of peeling back some layers. Here too, I think the other part is not being overly selfish with what I want and understanding that it's more of a team effort over here, right? So you know, perfect example I was training for the Buffalo marathon last winter through the spring getting all that done.
Speaker 2:It was, you know, I think it was like 160 runs. I put down 700 miles, a lot of work. And, um, I had said and I told my wife this before and I'll say it again like none of that's possible without her right, like if she's not here taking care of everything else that needs to get done, when I'm running a three and a half hour training session, like that, it just can't get done. But there's a lot of selfish mentality in the fact of, okay, I'm going to wake up and go run for four hours too, right, so, so you need to have the right teamwork in place to get it done and a little bit of long winded there.
Speaker 2:But I think the hardest part for me is not only setting time boundaries but also understanding like, listen, man, you can't do it all right. Like we can't be an uh, a marathon runner, we can't be in the gym five days a week. We can't also be collecting sports cards and doing all of this and be a lawn enthusiast and like, like something's got to give, and at the end of the day it's like, okay, well, what's the one thing we're going to lean into right now? Do that, and the rest is it's gotta be for them.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's good man. You made me think of a phrase that I say often um, which is um without agreements. Without an agreement, the expectation doesn't exist, and if it's, if it's, it mainly exists, but it's in your brain, and so we have these expectations when they're not communicated, so like if you're like, let's say, for example, when you were going through that.
Speaker 2:Walk me through that. What when they're not?
Speaker 3:communicated, so like, if you're like, let's say, for example, when you were going through that, walk me through that, what's that mean to you? Yeah, so like when you were doing the, let's say in your mind you hey, honey, I got to go for a run. Yeah, and you just assume that she remembers your training. She assumes that she's memorizing your training and where you're at and how you feel and where's your body. She doesn't, but she doesn't 30 minutes before you're gonna have to do some warm up and and, by the way, this is a three-hour training and maybe she forgot that right, so she's doing, she has plans planned for you and all of a sudden you're like what are you talking? And you're like and all of a sudden it's an argument. Because you're like honey, I told you I was running, she didn't.
Speaker 3:But the problem is on you because you didn't set expect. You didn't set a clear expectations. Hey versus, hey, I gotta run this weekend. It's gonna be three hours. I know it kind of sucks. You're going to take them for the chin for us. However, when we're done, we're going to do A, b and C. Are we good? Yeah, and sometimes that over communication, I found is because we get going too fast to your point earlier. You know we get going so many directions and we don't slow down to like just make sure hey, are we on page?
Speaker 2:and yeah, we try to do that often. Um, we, we have really good lines of communication. I, I, I believe in that, right, I don't really believe in arguments. I don't think that solves anything. Right, like, a proactive conversation goes a lot longer for me and a lot farther for me than an what am I yelling for? Right, like, what is this solving? We're too, we're too educated to be yelling at each other like cavemen, so like, and yes, obviously there's going to be a little bit of disagreement every now and again, but let's figure out what the root cause is here and work through it and figure out, okay, what's really going on. Um, but, yeah, man, that's, that's. That's kind of where I'm at with that, that question, that thought process for you.
Speaker 3:Love it. What? Um, in 15 years, when the kids are older, they're graduating high school. Um, if you were to sit back and think, man, these are when when the neighbors like, ah, those Biley kids there, these three things make them special. Tell me what you'd say.
Speaker 2:Wow, um, I want my kids to be good people. I want them to respect everybody. I want them to be hardworking and I want them to have a solid, hardworking, blue collar, buffalo, new York, work ethic, regardless of what it is that they do. So I want them to be, I want them to be good people, I want them to be hardworking. That might be it. It might not even be three things. I think.
Speaker 2:If, if, if, everything that my wife and I can teach them can bottle down into just in your heart are you doing the right thing right now and are you truly treating yourself and others with respect and doing what you know is right? I think that, and setting that moral compass, I think is good. And then from there, if I think it's listen, you can do and be whatever you want. It's going to take some work. Get after it. I think that would be a successful gosh man.
Speaker 2:15 years, I'll be. What am I? I'll be 50? Lord Casey, you're painting. You'd be my age, bro. Yeah, man. And you know what's crazy? You just said how fast. You just said how fast'm gonna be 35 this year, in a month. Here too, um, you just said how fast would you say? 19 years is gone. I think you mentioned for for one of your kids. Man, I know how fast three and a half years is gone, so I can only imagine that it's going to get faster as we start going to more sports every night and more you know music and recitals and things like that. Like right now we couple of things, but it's only like one night a week where, like, we have to be actually out of the house and be somewhere once they both start doing things and it's sort of just like a wake up and sprint until you can get back in bed. Yeah, man, I can only imagine time speeds up.
Speaker 3:I always just enjoy your wife nailed about be where your feet are. I've heard that piece of advice before it's. I literally was taking my daughter. My daughter and I went yesterday my wife's out of town, my son's in college. My daughter and I went to meet my son's girlfriend's family for dinner Cause my son's girlfriend's going back to college. We went out to dinner with them. They invite us and there was some traffic in our area so I took my daughter rally the back way and the back way takes us back by the road.
Speaker 3:Junior high. I was like man, I haven't been this way for a long time. This is kind of she's like well, I go. It's just kind of like a little sentimental. I was like I remember driving. I used to. This is back when I used to drive you to practice and I coached you and I remember on this one this was cool. He's like that was like yesterday, dude. Yeah. So it's like um, you know there's so many things like I don't have to go to my kids game. I don't have to know you get to my buddy, matt Lowe's.
Speaker 2:I used to say that all the time I don't have to, I get to, and I never made sense to me because when he was saying it I didn't have kids yet, right, so it didn't like it didn't resonate. But I've heard that before and I I love that mentality as well, cause there are a lot of people who want to be doing that that don't get to Correct.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, correct Um. Talk to me about how your journey of marketing happened.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so, um, I fell into marketing man. So what happened? How long you got, I guess, is the right question. So when I originally went to school, I went to be an athletic trainer. Loved the thought of being on the sidelines working with teams, working with athletes to make them better, faster, stronger, and wanted to be an athletic trainer. That didn't work out for me after freshman year. Wanted to be an athletic trainer. That didn't work out for me after freshman year. It was a little bit too scientific and not enough what I thought it was going to be. Now, coming off of marathon prep and coming off of training as much as I do, I'm back into that mindset. So I probably would have actually done pretty good but just didn't work out.
Speaker 2:Ended up getting into marketing because at the time I was super active with music, loved playing guitar, loved playing shows, was starting to cause a little bit of a ripple effect in Buffalo, new York, playing bars and venues and things like that. I thought the most logical step is, if I had to be at college and I had to get a degree and my dad made me promise that I would stick it out and do it, marketing made sense because then I could learn how to market what I was doing on stage. So let's learn marketing, brad, so that then you can use everything that you're learning to become the business side of music as well. That made sense. Got into marketing, actually really enjoyed it. Got into the marketing club, became president of the marketing club, got into student government, became marketing director for student government. So held the two highest positions that I could on campus in a marketing role.
Speaker 2:Haley Marketing was hiring my fifth year at Brockport so I stayed an extra year, took a little bit of a victory lap because I couldn't get it done in four, still paying for that.
Speaker 2:But at the time a friend reached out to another friend that I was living with, basically saying hey, my company's hiring, do you know anybody in marketing? And talking to the relationship guy, my best friend still one of my best friends said, yeah, you should talk to Brad. So I went in for an interview, interviewed with Brad Smith, who is still our chief strategy officer and still over here at Haley marketing. He hired me, um, saw something in me which I still appreciate very, very much. And my last year at Brockport I was working for Haley marketing Fridays and Mondays so I would drive in from Rochester, work all day Friday, drive back to campus, you know, do the thing Saturday, sunday, drive in Monday, go to go to class Tuesday, wednesday, thursday and then kind of repeat Um when I graduated then I started full time Um, and from there I've been now with Haley now 12 and a half years.
Speaker 3:Okay, and for people who have not heard about Haley, tell me what. Tell me what Haley does for people.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we're a full service marketing agency dedicated to helping the staffing and recruiting industry, so we are the number one marketing partner for staffing and recruiting firms across the country. We do everything from your traditional business cards, pamphlets, brochures, flyers, things like that, your tangible marketing to the tops of taxi covers and bus wraps. We've done signage at Camden Yards for a client. But really our sweet spot is digital and leveraging digital marketing for staffing and recruiting firms. And in our space a lot of our clients don't have the budget to have internal marketing teams, so they outsource a lot of it to us and we could either come in and say, listen, internal marketing teams, so they outsource a lot of it to us and we could either come in and say, listen, you know, based on your needs, you can't find clients right now. We suggest one or two services all the way through. Hey, we'll be sort of your outsource CMO and we'll run a series of products and services and help you start to finish.
Speaker 3:Very cool. And um what? When do you think your kids will understand what dad does?
Speaker 2:Um, my son knows that I talk to people a lot. Um, because I work from home and and Blair, I, I, I joke all the time that my kids are going to have an MBA in marketing before they fully know their ABCs. Um, Bryce knows I talk to people a lot. He knows that I travel a lot. Um, I, I take his squish mellow with me. I take a stuffy with me everywhere I go, what I actually do. I mean he doesn't get it yet I think they'll know that I help people in the short term.
Speaker 2:I'm always talking to people and helping. It's funny, though I mean working from home. We have a pretty open house, so I mean no-transcript here and play in his room like I don't really stop him. So he's on client calls all the time, walking through anytime I present it's actually the first slide is like listen, just so you know. Put a face to the name, because there's a good chance you're going to either hear them or see them at some point during this presentation, so we might as well, just get that out of the way, but I've leaned into it right.
Speaker 2:I think in the five or six years now that we've been a remote team at Haley, a lot has changed in the way remote work is done and the way remote work is embraced. I think six years ago if your kid or your dog showed up on a zoom call, it'd be pretty frowned upon. I mean, now there are. There are meetings where I'm holding Blair. There are meetings where you know I have to bring her in because somebody has to talk, right that second, and you know I'm in the middle of, you know, helping her, you know. So it's. It's one of those situations where they, they, they know I talk to a lot of people and, uh, they help a lot of people.
Speaker 3:I think that's super important. We said, I mean, obviously we've gone down a little bit of work and I'll go back to work real quick. Yeah, you made me think of a client. So I was doing some executive coaching for a client and this person their daughter came in and the daughter was sick and she was like she got super. I could see her face, she got flustered and I said, hey, it's okay. I said, do you want to say hi? And so I like calmed the client down when I was coaching and I was like, does she want to say hi to my dog? And so I turned the video like my computer. I said, hey, this is my dog, harley. And they're like do you want Harley? To say to me.
Speaker 3:I was like I was having empathy for the client, just trying to. You know, hey, listen, we're all doing this thing from home, right? I think sometimes that to me, was just like the right thing to do. So I ended up telling my kids that story, like, oh, that's cool, dad. But it wasn't less about me but more about like, hey, we all as humans and parents who work from home, it's like listen, give everybody a little bit of grace. Yeah, you know, it's like I've yet to meet the perfect husband, perfect father, perfect mom, perfect wife, perfect company.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:I've yet to meet someone that hasn't made a mistake. Yeah, you know, stuff happens. Yeah.
Speaker 2:I think that human side of it is, I mean, it's very important to me. I think it's very easy in a remote and digital world where listen, casey, I got you for a 15 minute zoom, let's get to it, because I know I only have 15 minutes and we kind of have to like lock in for us to forget that we're actually humans. And like you're actually sitting in your office right now and I am sitting here in mind, working and talking to each other, and we, like I can't ask you how your day's going, I can't ask you what you're going to do this weekend, and we can be humans and you're not just a face on a computer screen. We need to be intentional with that.
Speaker 2:So it's, um, it's something that I'm learning more and more and I think, knowing that, listen, yes, certainly I have, you know, five to seven calls a day. They're not on every single one of them, but if somebody wanders in every now and again and it happens, we're going to roll with it and we're going to figure it out. And if I got to take a two minute break, I'm going to take a two minute break and we'll be right back. And I still care about your marketing just as much, I promise I don't care about your program any less. Your needs are still just as important to me. So it's um, it's. It's super, super human, super authentic.
Speaker 3:And it's almost like for me to be the best marketer for you. I also have to be the best dad. I gotta be the best husband and best version of me, and if I'm not the best version of me, I'm not gonna be the best market for you.
Speaker 2:I mean, I can tell you very, very honestly, if I don't get a good amount of exercise throughout the week, my marketing ideas are nonsense. Um, ideas are nonsense. I get my best ideas on a long run. I get my best ideas when I'm actively running, more so than the gym. The gym you still have your phone nearby In between sets. You're kind of just sitting there you can say, oh, I don't look at my phone while I'm working out, but it's there.
Speaker 2:When you're running and you're gone for three and a half hours or a three-hour training session and your phone's in a back pouch that you can't reach, it's very hard to run in text at the same time. I don't know if you've ever tried. It's not encouraged. So I mean that's very good solitude. There is very good thought. That happens. My biggest talking pillar of the year of what the best recruiting firms do differently came out of a long run because the wheel started turning for me and it turned into a talk that I've now given probably 20 or 25 times this year. So it's something like that, because I have that solitude where I can just lock in. That's where the best ideas come from for me.
Speaker 3:No, I love that. Before we start wrapping up here I know you've kind of teased this one. I think I know the answer. I'm going to ask it anyways. Tell me what is an area of your dad game that if Brad was coaching himself? It's like you know, Brad, you're not. You're not the best dad here. We can really improve your, your dad game. Uh, tell me what comes to mind.
Speaker 2:I would love to, uh, I'd love to be more intentional with, with my time. That's that's what I keep coming back to Do. I have it here yeah, 4,000 Weeks. By Oliver Berkman. You read this book. Yeah, man, so we all have 4,000 weeks to live. If you think statistically, you live to 80, 80, whatever it might be. It's roughly 4,000 weeks.
Speaker 2:And as I was working through that book and working through the mentality of it, it struck me in an interesting way of time is incredibly precious, right, like you can break it down. Like 80 years sounds like a long time, but if you start thinking, okay, I have 4,000 weeks and I've already used X number of those, and you start chunking it that way, things get a little different. So, um, I I, when I think about being a dad want to continue to improve my intentional nature with how I treat time and again like my wife has said more times than I can count being present where my feet are and just understanding. Listen, if this is the mode you're in, if you're in dad mode right now, the other stuff can wait. Um, and and limit sort of the multitasking approach to things.
Speaker 3:Love it, man. That's good. I um an area that I think this podcast has helped me is helped me with my patients as a dad, uh, as competitive person. That tends to be the the positive. Negative is, like competitive people are very impatient. I was guilty of, I still am impatient at times, but like I've learned to like, okay, what's my, what's my outcome, what's my end game here? Why am I getting frustrated? Is this a KC issue or is there something else? And so just like slowing down a little bit so we can go faster in life, that's been really, really helpful and I think also just as dad journey and I have it's uncle rica moment coming, because I played sports in college.
Speaker 3:But I have, I have the perspective of it's not my journey, it's your journey, kids. So yeah, yeah, walk me through that yeah, meaning that I think as you get older with your kids, you'll see that there's going to be parents who are wrapped around every single, the axle of every single thing and and they're never going to want their kids to fail and struggle.
Speaker 3:But that's where we become ourselves and our best version of ourselves, and they're going to be. When Johnny gets cut from the team, go fight the coach versus. No, the kid didn't work. Why did he deserve to make the team? He didn't do. It Didn't do a fricking thing. Should make the team.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:You know. And so, like even yesterday, like I told you before we started recording, you know Ryder losing in 25 holes in match play. Did I want him to win? Yeah, I would have loved for him to win, but actually my mind quickly goes to celebrate. But think about the growth. Yeah, dude, you grinded for 25 holes against the captain, your senior team. He had more pressure on him. He didn't want to lose to a sophomore. Yeah, and think about the respect you just earned from him that you didn't quit and you were like, listen, bro, we're going. But again you shook hands, your buddies, your team, at like, celebrating those types of things is because I know that adversity I went through in life shaped me. Yeah, you know, not like yeah it's interesting you bring that up.
Speaker 2:I'm reading, I have been reading, the daily dad uh ryan holiday, and uh, he's got, he's got the daily stoic too, right. But the daily dad, uh Ryan holiday, and uh, he's got, he's got daily stoic too, right. But the daily dad, I bought it came up as an Amazon suggestion, so it's. It's one of those daily reads. You know, each page has like two or three paragraphs and, and that whole thought process came up recently of it's their journey, it's not your journey, right, like they're learning their kids. Right, like they're leaving toys out because it's their journey. And and yes, it might be frustrating that you have to clean up toys every single night, right, like, again, my kids are three and one, right, so it's a little bit different stage than you, right? I don't know if your, your kids, are still leaving out toys, but like that's their journey, though, and they're having a ton of fun and you know there's not always going to be little Paw Patrol dogs laying all over the house. So enjoy the journey, because it's going to be gone faster than we know it and, and you know the other side of it.
Speaker 2:Going back to, you made a comment about you know, parents getting wrapped up and you know your kid doesn't make the team and going and wanting to fight the coach and everything. I remember. You know another lesson that is coming back to me from my parents. I remember my mom at one point saying you know, I'm I'm not making the coach cookies, like we're not going to show up and bribe the coach with cookies and like baked goods and stuff, like we're not going to be those parents like if you want to make the team, go out and make the team right, like we're not, we don't do that here.
Speaker 2:And and that's also it comes back just that hard-working, I think, just blue-collar grit, in a sense that that I have. That's like listen, man, sure you can go run a marathon, but put in the work and get there and do it right. Like Like I'm doing two halves in October and I have a time in my mind that I want to finish in. Might be unreachable, but if you know, put in the work and give yourself a fighting chance, come start line to give a good effort at it. Um, but yeah, man, that's um. I appreciate you bringing that thought back to me.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you bet, dude. If people want to learn more about Brad and Haley or your guitar skills or your checkout, well, your lacrosse game. Tell me what's the best way people can find you.
Speaker 2:Best way is going to be LinkedIn. Linkedin look for Brad Biley and not really active on too much social media other than that. One of the byproducts of being in digital marketing so much is I do it all day that I don't actually do it for myself too often, but I am super, super active on LinkedIn. I post a daily video from the podcast. I'm always sharing content to help level up individuals in sales or recruiting. So if that at all pertains to you, we'd be a good connection, we'd be a good conversation to have and then from there too, if anything that I said resonated well, with you, I'd love to chat. So shoot me a message and we can talk.
Speaker 3:Cool. We will make sure this is linked in the show notes so everybody can easily find Brad Biley, which is B-I-A-L-Y for the people spelling at home. If you're in the spelling bee competition, he does make it to the next round. Brad, it's now time to go on what I call the lightning round, which is where I ask you random questions I have not thought of at all. Your job is to answer these questions as quickly as you can, and my job is to hopefully get a giggle out of you.
Speaker 2:All right.
Speaker 3:And by doing this I'm going to show you the effects of taking too many hits not bong hits, but football hits in college.
Speaker 2:All right, let's do it. Are you ready?
Speaker 3:I think so. Okay, true or false, you are known as the prefontaine of staffing false, false. Do you know who prefontaine is? I don't so that's why I said false. Come on, you're a runner dude. He's like he had the fastest mile ever from orton university, oregon. You gotta know this stuff how fast, I don't know. It was like. It was like back then. It was like I think it was the first sub five mile guy. Got it way back, way back in the time Got it.
Speaker 2:I don't know, that was a straight dad joke that just went over.
Speaker 3:So again I'm already losing because I kind of giggled at that one.
Speaker 2:That's all right. Is that what it's supposed to be? Do I get to say a comma back and try to make you laugh?
Speaker 3:Sure, you can make a challenge no all good, I didn, but I apologize.
Speaker 2:Exactly right, my friend. I, I am not that guy.
Speaker 3:Okay, uh, tell me what would be one genre of music that would surprise your colleagues at Haley. You listen to country.
Speaker 2:Okay, yeah, I know that I come off as a country music kind of guy, but I I've been very having country music lately.
Speaker 3:Break dance or line dance break poorly poorly.
Speaker 2:I am not a dance move, I'm big. Oh see, this is where a video podcast would be good. I'm a big, just kind of stand in point kind of guy when I dance. I'm not, I'm not a big dancer, but but you know that guy at the wedding who's kind of just there, just kind of, hey, my guy, this guy over there, yeah, you're doing it.
Speaker 3:You know exactly what I'm talking about and so is anybody else listening knows exactly that move do you know what breakdance move is timeless? That that's always accepted, wherever you go about it?
Speaker 2:the roger rabbit and the running man the running man is very, very fair game if you're like, and so rocket yeah, the running man. You could always pull out the shopping cart if you need to. Don Don't forget to get the stuff. You know the top of the aisle, the bottom. Yeah, you could pull that off if you need to.
Speaker 3:Yep, I like that Um, if, if, um, mom and dad are going on vacation. Sorry kids, you're not, you're, you're staying home. Where, where are you taking her?
Speaker 2:Ireland.
Speaker 3:Logically delicious.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we, um we did not honeymoon. Um, we've we, we did not take a honeymoon. We've always wanted to go, Um, so it would be Ireland.
Speaker 3:I would love to go to Ireland on a golf trip and that sounds fantastic. Um, favorite comedy movie of all time is hangover one. Hmm, true or false, I can play Stu song on the guitar, the what do you tell I one you can play a little. Yeah, I bet you can play on guitar.
Speaker 2:I was just, I was just singing that the other day. That's so funny I knew too. When you were on my show, we were going back and forth with the anchorman quotes. I knew we were going to become buddies here. Um, can you play on the guitar for real?
Speaker 3:yeah, of course you can oh yeah, I can play it. Um, if you want homework, I will get a, give me your. When we get offline, I'll get your cell. I will text you a recording, prove it.
Speaker 2:And you can say god your voice sucks dude, but I don't care I can't wait, can't wait. Yeah, hangover one, though, is definitely going to be favorite comedy. That movie is phenomenal start to finish.
Speaker 3:It is good. Um, okay, if there was to be a book run written about your life, tell me the title.
Speaker 2:Um, I'm going to go. Brad Biley, the all America story.
Speaker 3:There we go.
Speaker 2:Buffalo, new York, is the all America city, so that's the first thing that came to my mind. Okay, okay, so this, this book there's the big one you wanted this.
Speaker 3:This book is now gaining momentum. Yeah and uh. It's like getting out of control, like Oprah, phil Donahue, ricky Lake, it's. I mean, it's blowing up prices right there and it's given up just everybody talking about it. Yeah, it's nuts. Amazon can't sell enough. Every airport sold out, so Netflix like shit. We better make a movie out of this thing. So, Brad, you were the casting director. I need to know who's going to star you in this critically acclaimed, hit new movie. Give me Bradley Cooper Nice.
Speaker 2:Yeah, nice, how could it not be?
Speaker 3:Yeah, well, I see the resembling looks you definitely have Bradley Cooper of staffing industry. I got the Good point, okay, last question.
Speaker 2:Tell me two words that would describe your wife Beautiful patient.
Speaker 3:Boom Lighting round was complete. Um, I giggled more of my own jokes, which tends to happen, um, cause I'm I have issues, uh, but this has been an honor, uh, getting to know you better. I'm grateful Our paths have crossed. I think I only come across the one and only Brad Ballard, because of my friends at the AS group at the conference where I was at there, and so thanks to the folks at AS group for making today's episode possible and thank you for every dad out there that continues to listen. If this episode made you think, if there's an episode that made you like, man, that was. That was some pretty cool stuff. I talked about, like, leave us a comment, leave us a review.
Speaker 3:Wherever you consume these podcasts or share the episode with another dad, um, this, this podcast, everybody is, sometimes people at home like, oh so you're like a podcaster. This is like a passion project that I've been doing for six years now. It does not generate revenue, it is just for pure joy and fun and I do it to serve. Uh, so, please, I ask guys to serve others. Like, find a dad that you feel like can listen to either this episode or another episode. But, brad, grateful for our time together. I'll make sure everything's linked in the show notes and I hope to see you at one of these conferences that we'll be all probably attending here in the staffing industry here soon.
Speaker 2:We'll see you soon, my friend.
Speaker 3:All right man, Thanks for having me.