The Next Conscious Leader Podcast with Natalie Hunter

Creating Conscious Impact (The 3 Spheres of Energy)

Season 6 Episode 202

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In this episode Natalie shares some of her most important codes about what "energy" is, and how it pertains to human behavior, including how your energetic frequency has an impact on the world around you. ✨

She'll break down one of her frameworks, "The 3 Spheres of Energy" and why it matters for conscious leaders and worldchangers. She also shares some of her backstory, including how she got into this world, and some old frequencies from her past she has shifted too. 


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Hello, amazing soul, and welcome back to the next Conscious Leader Podcast. The next Conscious Leader Podcast is for the entrepreneurs, coaches, thought leaders, healers, personal brands, industry disrupting icons, aligned visionaries, and transformational leaders. Here for big impact and to bring your light to the world. I'm Natalie Hunter. I'm a master certified transformation coach, an expert change catalyst, trusted by world changers all over the globe. In this podcast, you'll find codes, inspiration, activation, real talk, spiritual truth, and the unwavering reminder that soul-led impact starts with you. I'm so glad you're here. Of course, the second I hit record today, it is 3:33. I love it when a plan works out. Hello, incredible soul. Welcome back. I have to start off today's podcast with a humongous thank you. Thank you for the warm welcome back. Thank you for your kind messages and love. Thank you for sharing, downloading, telling your friends. Thank you for bringing through world changer codes and conscious leadership codes to the earth because every time you listen or implement or share this energy, it supports the entire collective of impact makers, change bringers, and powerful, powerful lights in this world. I am so excited to be back dropping in with you and recording on the regular. Ugh, my cron is tingling again. So those are the good chills. It's always a very good sign. There were a couple of trends that I noticed in the messaging and response from everyone this past week. And I just thought I would share, aside from all the love and kind messages and welcome, warm welcome back to the world of podcasting. A big theme in the messages I received this week had to do with a little bit of a surprise. People complimenting me for taking a step back, for stepping back, for not forcing showing up when I was in a huge transition, big ego death, big earth-shattering movement in my life during this Pluto transit. So many of you thanked me for taking time for myself and for embodying that integrity as a leader, specifically someone in the coaching and transformation space. And so this next piece I'm going to say is for my conscious leaders who are in that space, healers, coaches, transformational guides, people who hold safe space for transformation. Let's normalize benching yourself when you're in an ego death or a massive earth-shattering transition in your life. And those are inevitable as highly conscious beings, soul-led leaders on the planet. Those moments are going to be inevitable. We are going to have big moments of transformation in our curriculum because we signed up for the advanced curriculum. So it requires an additional level of self-regulation in this unregulated industry. You know, given the fact this industry is unregulated, we don't have these guidelines necessarily that we have to adhere to. So I believe it is in integrity and of the highest levels of integrity to put those guidelines on yourself. When there is a big enough transition happening in your life and you understand that you are not the steadiest you could be, you are not in a place that is going to facilitate safety and clarity for your client, bench yourself. Let's normalize benching ourselves and eliminate scarcity energy around it, eliminate scarcity thinking and behaviors because there are other ways to make money, even as an entrepreneur. Start a completely separate side hustle if you need to. I've heard so many stories over the years of coaches struggling with very deep depression and very intense addiction and yet still showing up. And I'm not here to shame anybody, but I am here to say that when you take someone's consciousness into your own hands, we have a responsibility as transformational guides to be aligned, steady, and as clear as we can be, and holding that safe space in integrity. So normalize taking yourself off the stage and out of the game and pausing things when you need to is going to be more important than ever. And when you are seeking healing, seeking the support of a transformational guide to hold space for you, we're transitioning now. I'm not just talking to the transformational coaches and leaders. I am now talking to all of us again, the personal brands, industry disruptors, conscious, soul-led leaders, maybe not in the coaching and transformation space, but still aligned to the fact that you're a change maker. Since we are on a soul journey, we are very attuned to the power of this industry. And if you're seeking healing, coaching, the support of a transformational guide to hold space for you, as someone who is responsible for their own growth, make sure you're choosing practitioners that are in alignment as well. This can be spiritually for you. This can also be professionally. I've made some posts in recent weeks and months about the coaching industry going next level and talking about how the industry is going to demand that coaches produce receipts and talk about their training and talk about their ability to safely transform you now more than ever. And when it comes to the spiritual side of things, if you're a God-centered bright light, make sure you're working with and learning from someone who is also aligned with the highest. Again, when we're working with consciousness, transformation, and energy, the there is an integrity issue right now. An unclean practitioner can funk with your energy, your field in a massive way. So part of one of my contracts here on earth, one of my missions per se is to help raise the standard of the transformation industry. And one of the ways, maybe the only way I know how to do that is by walking my talk. So thank you everyone who gave me feedback on this, who highlighted this. And I pray it can be inspiring to you in some way, shape, or form when you are holding space or having space held for you too. I will be dedicating episodes to the coaching industry, to spiritual leadership and spiritual alignment. But right now, I want to cover in this episode some basics, just kind of a basic way that I think about energy, that I work with energy, and support you. Michael and I went to a brunch over the weekend and I was telling someone what I do. And she said, I really appreciate the way you talk about energy. She said, I always hear about energy with, you know, more of this esoteric terminology, like it's something outside of me. And she said, I love the way you explain it as the energy of you. And I said, Yes, we we are energy. We are life force energy in motion. And the ripple we send out with our actions into the world is also energy. To help you see this really clearly, I'll explain it in one of the frameworks that I use in my work. I call this the three spheres of energy. If you're here and listening to this podcast, you are most likely also of the remembrance that you are a soul here having a human experience. And the three spheres of energy really starts with that understanding, that remembrance as well. That there in the center of the three spheres is the energy of you, which is your soul, your light, your soul imprint here, having a human experience and experiencing itself as a human in a field of other energies experiencing themselves also as human. The energetic sphere of you makes up the first sphere in the three spheres. While yes, you are a light, a perfect soul light, you also have your humanness. Therefore, you have your human patterns, you have your human curriculum, your human wounds, your human imperfections. And this is my one, we'll call it a beef, for lack of a better term, with the spiritual world, the spiritual community. Okay, and this may not be my one and only beef, but right now, this is this is all that's coming to mind. This is kind of the biggest thing that I see that's incorrect about pop culture's spiritual teachings right now, and that's that you are perfect the way you are. The spiritual bypassing that comes with the remembrance that we are all connected, we are all one, therefore we are all perfect, is kind of the conclusion that a lot of spiritual beings like to jump to. And this is just the way I am, and I'm aware of my issues, but don't have to fix my issues because we are all divine. And while it is partly true that we are all light, we are all a sliver of creation, we are little creators. It's not actually true that we are emitting clean and clear frequency as a clear channel. Every single one of us as humans come wired also with what I call the four core human wounds. Those four core wounds affect our behavior, they affect our belief system, and therefore affect the emotions we feel and the frequency we emit with our emotions and our behaviors and our energy field. On top of what's happening in this life, we also have our energetic field affected by what may have happened in another lifetime, something that is lodged in the memory of your energetic body. All of this emits a frequency. And a tool I reference to help us understand the actual frequency of these emotions, of these patterns, is a tool by David Hawkins. It is called the map of consciousness. This is a powerful tool to help you understand the frequencies of human emotion. David Hawkins is a powerful soul. He is now crossed over, but he brought incredibly detailed research to the field of human emotion to create this map. You can Google it to find it really easily, and it will show you the different vibration that a human emotion resonates at. And it'll show you the constructive nature of certain emotions and the destructive nature of certain emotions. You'll notice if you look up this tool that the higher energies are at the top, higher frequency, higher vibration, the energies that are closest to oneness and remembrance of your true soul light. And all the way down to the bottom, we have the lowest vibrational frequencies like shame, guilt, fear, grief, those are the lowest vibration. And that actually the colors of this chart map to the colors of the chakras, too. Also representing that when you are in the lower root chakra, that you are in the separation, the most separation from source, the furthest away from source. And when you are in the higher states of peace and joy and love, that you're in that higher, clearer frequency and resonating closer to the field of capital T truth and oneness and pure light. So this tool is what I use to help categorize and give a powerful visual to the emotion so that you can understand it in terms of frequency. When we're in the lower frequencies, those are the things that hold us back. Those patterns are the things that keep us stuck, that keep us from creating in our full truth and in our full oneness, and they keep our vibration from being higher. And again, I say all this with pure compassion. It's just to help you understand that the energy of you for a million different reasons is emitting a frequency. We get the sum total of your full real vibration by taking up and adding in all the vibrations of all the different areas of your life, too. So that's something that David Hawkins specifies in his book that you don't resonate at just one frequency in your entire life. We actually have different levels of frequency in different areas of our lives. And that to me just links to the different patterns and the different ways and places we're in forgetfulness. And then some areas we might be, especially if you're doing this work for a little while, some places you might be in more remembrance. And again, I bring all this up to just point out that we are a life force being having a human experience and therefore emitting a frequency of energy because of this human experience. So this is really the first sphere of energy. It's you, it's the sphere of you. And you are having an impact on you, and then your impact also ripples out, which brings us to the second sphere. But one more thing I want to highlight about the energy and frequency of you, the human, is that we all have our human stuff. And like I said, we all have our varying degrees of forgetfulness and our varying levels of consciousness with regard to the various areas of our lives. So I have complete compassion for anybody who comes into my world that might be stuck in a certain area. We all have our curriculum, we all have the things that we're navigating. And some of us may have been on this journey a little longer, but we are all operating as a human. And it is a very disorienting experience most of the time because even when you've awakened, because we are dealing with constructs of this human experience, right? So I while I don't see any emotion as bad, I approach things with curiosity. I'm also aware that sometimes we are being slowed down by being human itself, right? The analogy that came to mind when I was channeling out these notes was the analogy of like a toddler trying to operate a Nintendo 64 game controller with oven mitts on, right? That's like us and our consciousness trying to create within this human experience, right? We vaguely know and remember what we're supposed to be doing, but this human construct, this human experience is adding a very tough element, a lot of tough elements that are making it harder and harder to navigate. So the clearer your energetic frequency, the easier it is to create, meaning the gloves come off a little bit and we're able to create our reality a little bit more smoothly. Do we still have initiations even as conscious beings? Yes. Do we still have work? Yes. Our curriculum is still with us until the day we leave this earth. So we will have moments where we come back around to certain pieces of our curriculum, but we do so from a more expanded state and a more high and close to truth vibration. So this human experience is quite a trip, as we know, but it's all working together to emit a certain frequency as you. And we have complete compassion for this experience because we are all born human. We are all born actually missing the mark. So a quick fun fact. I will do a longer episode about this, you guys, um, much more in-depth episode on this, but just a quick fun fact. The word sin means to miss the mark in Hebrew. It just means to miss the mark. It means a misappropriation of your life force energy. And the word repent means in Hebrew to return. So therefore, when Jesus walked and he said, We are all born sinners, he was saying, we are born missing the mark. He didn't add the shame element that the church has taken and added on over the years. There's been a lot of shame and guilt that's been taking this type of messaging and from Jesus, the truth of Jesus and how Jesus walked and taught and twisted it up, added the fear, the shame, the guilt, et cetera. But if you unwind that and you look at the truth of what Jesus was saying, he was literally saying, we are born in a human body. He was saying, you are born missing the mark, you're just born in forgetfulness. He was saying you forgot you're a soul. You forgot you're here having this human experience and are therefore causing yourself more pain by misappropriating your energy. Return to truth, return to center. Repent for your sins literally means return. You are off the mark, return. And we also then have to undo the patterns that have been created from that misappropriation of the energy. And that's what Jesus, again, he stood for sternness around that when he walked. Jesus is the ultimate light worker. So many codes for the world changers. He stood in the truth and he fought for freedom for all of the humans that he interacted with because he was saying, You're missing the mark. Look at what you're doing. You know not what you do because you are in forgetfulness. So Jesus was really truly trying to get us to raise our frequency out of those low vibrational patterns by using those words. So this is a universal human experience. And I am again saying all of this with regard to the energy and frequency of you. You are having an impact on you, and then your energy is rippling out into the second sphere, which is your sphere of influence. It's those that are on the immediate receiving end of your energy and your frequency. This is the people regularly impacted by your energy, your emotional state, by your light, by your vibration. When your energy is unclear or, you know, you're you're playing out patterns, maybe not of the highest, those can be rippling into your sphere of influence. And your light also ripples into your sphere of influence. The people that are impacted by your light, your purest light are those that are in your sphere of influence. They are the closest to you. Your family, your clients, your followers, your co-workers, all of those are in your sphere of influence. And this, your sphere of influence has its own frequency as well. So the people you hang around with have a frequency. It's normally a very similar frequency to you, but it also can be a little bit more expanded. It can be a little bit more contracted. But there is a frequency to your sphere of influence. And the way to truly impact your sphere of influence for the highest is to raise your own personal vibration so that then that goes into your sphere of influence. The higher your vibration, the cleaner and clearer your impact. I like to use the word impact rather than the word influence all the time with regard to you and your energy, because I truly believe that when we are impacting people, we are just bringing through light and letting go of the response, right? Letting go, no attachment necessarily to the outcome. Whereas the word influence, in my view, has a um a slight agenda to it, right? It is trying to get somebody to make a decision that you want them to make, right? The persuasion element is really what comes to mind when you think of the word influence. You know, you in the sphere of influence, both can be present. But when I truly think about impacting someone for the highest, I look at it like bringing through high vibration and releasing, kind of letting go. Being in integrity with how I'm choosing to bring through that vibration and also, you know, not just completely leaving people hanging when I say letting go, but I mean with unattachment, right? Again, that's how Jesus walked. The ultimate light worker who was fighting for the freedom of all of humanity and all those who heard his teachings, that he was bringing through the Christ light with no attachment. He was bringing through that purest vibration without necessarily trying to get them to be taking an action that was for his highest good, right? It was this is a little bit of an interesting nuance here, and I don't have to go too far into it, but I like to think of it as impact versus you know influence, and also you can be influential for someone's highest good. Anyway, maybe I'll unpack that in another experience at some point, another episode at some point. But that's the sphere of influence. And then there's the third ripple out, which is the energy of the world. So again, on the furthest inside, we have the energy of you. Then we have the closest sphere around you, which is your sphere of influence, those on the receiving end of your light, those closest to you. And then we have the third ring out, the third sphere of energy, which is the energy of the world. Your life force energy, the highest purest light moving through you will create a ripple that goes through your sphere of influence and into the world. It can go out. And you know, it can be high vibrational or it can be low vibrational, but your light, your impact, your influence can ripple out from your field into the sphere of influence, into the world, and energies from the world can come in. Energies from the world can impact your sphere of influence, which can also impact you. So it's important to just be aware of energetic transference. And we're talking about energy and vibration. One of my favorite examples is what happened in the world during COVID. No matter where you were in the world, and no matter what your experience was of that time, I guarantee that you at some point had the thought, had at least just the thought, do I have enough toilet paper? Right? You had the thought. Whether or not you were worried about it, whether or not you were in fear about it is not what I'm saying. I'm saying you had the thought because the and and that didn't come from you. That came from the outside. The energy of the world was emitting that message, that frequency, and that energy penetrated your sphere of influence and then penetrated your field, your awareness. Again, that didn't come from you, that came from the world. So that's an example of how energy can come from the world into your sphere of influence and ripple into you, and your energy also can move out of you into your sphere of influence and out into the world. And so when we're thinking about our impact as a leader and we're talking about energy, this work to me is about becoming aware of your patterns, of your limiting energetic patterns and frequencies so that you can create the impact you are desiring to create. This is a big part of how I work with energy coaching. I'm supporting your energy and vibration to expand, your light to expand, and your vibration to get higher so that you can direct it into the world to create exactly what you want to create. Because a lot of times we are not having the impact that we want to have. And it goes so much deeper than just mindset. It is your energy, your frequency that is rippling out of you, both consciously and unconsciously, to create your impact in the world. And when I say it's so much more than mindset, I mean this is because you can be thinking positive thoughts, thinking you're having a positive effect. But if your energy is telling a different story, then that is the impact you're actually going to be having. And how do I know this? From my own personal experience. I became a motivational speaker in 2004. That was the first time I got paid to step on a stage and motivate an audience. I always say that that is when I first started to study energy, frequency, impact, and influence. Because you're getting paid to step on a stage and influence or motivate an audience. You figure out real quick the factors that work and what doesn't work, especially when that audience was teenagers, because that was the audience I started out with. And they can read through BS a mile away. So when I first started speaking, I very quickly became aware of what was going to work to spread my message and what was not going to work when it came to spreading my message. I worked for a nonprofit from 2004 to 2008, getting paid to speak in hundreds and hundreds of schools. I then got laid off in 2008 when the market crashed here in the United States. And schools, fortunately for me, were still calling me. So I ended up going back into the world of speaking just on my own. And in 2009 is when I became an entrepreneur and started traveling and speaking as my own name, my own brand. And shortly after that, I launched my national speaking career. I was traveling the country, speaking to groups, not just teenagers anymore. I was speaking to a lot of adults. I was speaking in colleges. I was speaking to schools. I was speaking at conferences, both state and national level. And I experienced shortly thereafter a significant amount of self-sabotage that had me start to basically question everything. I got a book deal, just a couple of examples for you. I got a book deal, but I wouldn't write the book. I kept delaying and delaying and delaying for a very long period of time. I had an opportunity to be on a very big TV and radio show at the time. And I ended up completely ignoring that phone call, getting on a flight, and I was in the city where that show was being taped. I was there for a speaking tour, had the opportunity to come in phone calls, talk to the producer, and then I chickened out. Ended up ignoring that last phone call. Got on my plane and went home. And the last thing I did, I had some people who wanted to connect me with a producer to create a reality TV show based on what I was doing. They wanted to follow me around to schools all over the country with a camera and videotape my talks and the response I was getting from the teenagers and from the movement I was creating. I never returned the phone call. So it's 2014 at this point, and this definitely started to get my attention. I realized I'm not okay. Something is keeping me from expanding my impact. Something is keeping me consciously or unconsciously from expanding my reach. Very fortunately, I was also working with my first spiritual teacher at the time, and I had been for several years at that point. So I had a group around me to support me in pulling apart this pattern, figuring out what was going on. And I took myself off the stage in order to do that. Well, what I didn't tell you is that as a speaker, I was spreading a message of awareness and prevention about sexual assault based on my own experiences in college. When I became an entrepreneur, then I built my own brand. I built this really, I thought, inspiring brand. And to some people, it really was inspiring. I'm not going to take away all the good that was done with it. But the truth of it was the way I was motivating audiences was not of my fullest expression and not of my highest vibration. Because remember when I said I had to figure out what was going to motivate an audience, what was going to impact and what was going to influence an audience, I was using fear to do so unconsciously, mind you. I did not know I was doing this. Unconsciously, I was emitting a fear frequency that the world is not safe and you have to be tough and you have to be pretty feisty and you have to protect yourself. I was emitting this fear frequency. Again, I'm not saying that I wasn't doing good, but I also knew on a subconscious level that I wanted to stop emitting this frequency. This was not going to be how I wanted my legacy on this earth to be. And I was also not fully processing what had happened as well. Every time I was on a stage, I was, I was sad and I was re-traumatizing myself unknowingly because even though I'd been to therapy before I got on a stage, I also still had a lot of that fear that was running me unconsciously. So I knew that something was up. I didn't know exactly what was up. And I decided to go and figure it out, go inward, figure it out. I took myself off the stage while I did that work because I knew, even though I couldn't figure out what at first, I knew something was off because I was self-sabotaging. My ripple was not expanding. My impact was not what I wanted to be creating on this earth, and I needed to figure out why. So insert two years of deep digging, I figured out what was going on. I realized how attached I'd been to my story and how much I was operating out of that more survival patterning, that lower vibrational frequency, unknowingly, and sending that ripple into the world. When I realized this, it took me many months, many layers of digging. But when I realized this, you guys, I entered into what I lovingly now refer to as the horrification stage of transformation. I was horrified when I realized how many thousands of people I had been in front of telling my story unknowingly, unconsciously fueled by fear and by the desire to tell everybody that the world wasn't safe. My own wounding was influencing my vibration. And therefore, I was influencing others with it. I was impacting others, not necessarily of the highest, but from my wounded vibration. And that seeing that, really feeling that all the way through from all the different angles is what I did. And it changed me. I always say the horrification stage is actually sacred because it is the fuel for change. When you really realize, when you really get and you feel the impact your energy and your vibration has had on others, when you see it and you truly feel it, the impact it's had on you and on the world, you can't help but change because you know that that is not what you're capable of. That's not you in your highest. If you, you know, this is for healthy folks. Sometimes there are sociopaths who understand what they're doing, and that's a, you know, behavioral and mental disorder. They understand the full impact of what they're doing and they choose it anyway. That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about those conscious, heart-centered beings that are drawn to this work. You're drawn to this podcast. You are a heart-centered soul who, when you see and feel the impact you're having and how it might not be of the highest, you want to change that. I truly believe those are moments of remembrance. And we want to choose more remembrance when we have those moments. We want to choose more high vibration. We want to choose healing, and we want to choose a life where we're expanded beyond those patterns, those things that have been restricting us. And that is really why I do what I do now. Just to put a bow on the end of my story. Once I realized I was impacting others not in a way that was not of the highest and influencing them to unconsciously influencing them to see the world in that fear state, I changed everything. I just I didn't even think I would speak again. I was doing so much peel pulling apart of my work. I was so horrified for many months. I didn't think I would ever be on a stage again until the early part of 2016. I heard a little nudge in my soul that said, You're not done. You're not done speaking. You're not done supporting others. You're just going to do it with a completely different energy. And slowly but surely, I found my way back onto a stage in 2016, 2017. I re-emerged as a speaker, but with a completely different message. I did youth leadership speaking and I talked about the impact that we have on each other, both for good and sometimes how we can impact each other not for the highest. I talk about how we are always impacting each other, whether we know it or not. It's just a matter of what impact we want to have. And most of you know the rest of my story is history from there. It was during that portion of my speaking career that I started to get standing ovations. I got much bigger crowds. I had much more enthusiastic, exciting response. My audiences weren't really bummed out anymore. And I knew and felt the difference and the vibration I was sending out of me. That's also when I started to get requests in 2017. I started to get requests from people to hire me. And after I would speak somewhere and I would say, hire me for what? And then I had to figure out how to hold space for people one-on-one. So I looked into going to school. I realized they wanted to hire me to, and many, many did. They hired me to work with their kids. They hired me to work with their schools. They hired me to help transform their environments. And I decided I needed more schooling to understand the science of transformation as well and how to do that with some skill sets. So that is when I went to coaching school. And I also had at that point many years of my own spiritual transformation work under my belt. I'd been studying in groups, I'd been going to retreats every couple of weeks. And I was studying human behavior change through a spiritual lens as well. So when all these people said, Can I hire you? And I decided to go to coaching school, I looked into going to become a therapist or a psychologist. I ended up choosing coaching school so I could have a little bit more freedom because at that point my spiritual gifts were coming online. And I knew that I had some more I could offer to a coaching career rather than working within the constraints of a therapist license or anything in that area. So I went to coaching school to expand my skill set on the one-to-one transformation side of things. And I remember sitting in coaching school watching what would be deemed a successful coaching conversation. And I remember thinking, watching this demo, that guy's energy hasn't changed. I remember thinking he's not going to actually change his behavior. Like he's just saying different words right now, but his behavior's not actually going to change because his energy hadn't shifted. Again, knowing everything I knew from my own study, my own experience, and studying all of the various groups I'd been in and watching my teacher support us in transformation, I knew what energy shifts looked like. And I knew that that guy was not having one as I was watching the demo coaching conversation. And I just clocked it. I didn't say anything at that point. I ended up going home and just coaching in my own way. And with all of my knowledge of spiritual growth and understanding and pattern shifting and energetic transformation, I had been unknowingly immersed in the study of that. And when I started to become a professional coach, I just put together my knowledge, my spiritual understanding, my own experiences, my energetic transformation wisdom, together with the skill of coaching. And I began to coach just by asking questions and creating massive transformation in my clients, by specifically asking questions in a certain way to help them realize the impact they were having on themselves and therefore how and what they wanted to shift. I again was doing this all with my spiritual understanding, my spiritual knowledge. And I just was having massive success right out the gate. And my coaching business was growing, and so was my knowledge as I grew. In 2019, I got a phone call from one of my clients, which was weird. I looked down and my phone was ringing one day while I was driving. And it was weird because my clients didn't usually call me. I would be like meeting them on Zoom, but they didn't usually call me. And this particular client was calling me. And this particular client, I'll never forget, she's very well known in the coaching transformation space. Her name is Leanne Lopez-Mosley, founder of the Rich Queen movement. She is beautifully boisterous and has a bold British accent. So imagine what I'm about to say with a bold and powerful British accent. And I pick up my phone and I hear, Natalie, I have got to tell you something. And she proceeded to tell me that she had just had such an amazing coaching call with one of her clients and that she realized the way I was coaching her was making her a better coach. And I said, Oh, that's fantastic. I was happy for her. And she said, No, no, no, no, no. I don't think you understand. Again, imagine this with her accent. She said, I don't think you understand. I think you have something here. You and your style of coaching is making me a better coach. Pay attention to what you're doing. I think you have a modality. I think you have your own methodology here. Please pay attention. And I said, Wow, okay, thank you. And I hung up the phone and I began to look for what she told me was there. And sure enough, I saw it. I was able to see very quickly within a few weeks and months. I realized that I did have my own methodology. I realized I was saying and doing the same eight things. And I ended up creating the very first coach training with that information. And this was back in early 2020. I developed my very own coaching certification. And we ended up getting this 200-hour, it grew over the years and it became a 200-hour certification. We ended up getting it ICF accredited. All 200 hours we got ICF accredited. It was the first energy coaching certification of its kind to be accredited by the ICF. And the certification takes spiritual truth, spiritual wisdom, energetic understanding of how to work with light and frequency to change behavior and combines it with the skill of coaching in a way that no one else has. And we proved it worked. In order to get ICF accreditation, you have to prove A, that you can teach it to coaches, and B, you then have to prove or have your coaches prove that it works by demonstrating your methodologies in a coaching call and getting a proven and recognizable shift for the client. And we had to produce several, several of those pieces of evidence. So it actually took years to get this uh certification and get our training accredited because we had to take people through it and then have the results, proving that it worked. So I give you this whole backstory to help you understand how I think about energy. And when it comes to energy coaching, with regard to your ripple into the world, your energetic frequency is having an impact on the world around you. Is it the impact you want to be having? Are you creating the results in your life that you want to be creating? And this can apply to any area of your life or any niche of business or entrepreneurship. Again, to bring this all full circle from the very beginning of this episode, because you are energy, you are life force energy in motion. And everything is actually energy. I always say that everything is energy, therefore every problem is an energetic one. So when it comes to your creations here on earth, whether it's your business, your life, your family, if you're not creating and using your role as a creator made in God's image, we are little creators. And if you're not using your creator abilities to create the life you want, there are reasons for it. We can shift the energetic inputs to create a different output. It's deeper than just mindset. It's more than just behavior, it's the whole frequency of what you are emitting. So that is how I think about energy. That's how I think about impact and energetic influence and impacting people for the highest with your frequency, is what I know we are here to do as world changers, light bringers, impact makers, industry disruptors. And we have the beautiful responsibility to shift any patterns or frequencies that are not of the highest. They're not the energetic ripple we want to be sending out. So that we can create what we want to create, so that we can fulfill our soul mission, our soul calling, and our soul desires. That is all I have for you today. Thank you for tuning back into the next conscious leader podcast. I'll be back very soon with more codes. Let me know what you want to hear from me. And until then, stay strong, stay prayed up, and remember the next conscious leader is you. I'll see you really soon.