The Next Conscious Leader Podcast with Natalie Hunter
Natalie Hunter, PCC, CPC, ELI-MP, is a globally sought-after Master Transformation Coach, and the Chief Transformation Officer at PersonalBrand.com.
Dubbed by her clients as “The Tony Robbins of the Spiritual World”, Natalie is a highly sought-after precision-level coach, motivational speaker, trainer, and student & teacher of transformation for more than two decades.
Natalie is an expert and a leading voice in the coaching and transformation industry, having helped thousands of leaders transform themselves and others, and become an energetic match for the impact they desire to create. Dubbed by her clients as “a combination of Peter Crone, Joe Dispenza, and Tony Robbins,” Natalie is known for delivering real-time breakthroughs and activating next-level success for leaders with her live coaching experiences.
As Chief Transformation Officer at PersonalBrand.com, she supports 6 & 7-figure thought-leaders, world-changers & influencers to measurably expand their reach, influence, & success. PersonalBrand.com is the premier agency for top-performing authors, speakers, influencers and thought-leaders ready to amplify their message and impact.
Natalie is also the creator of a globally taught 200-hour ICF-accredited coach training program and institute, nicknamed “Top Gun School for Coaches”, where she trains and certifies Master Transformation Coaches around the world. The school focuses on training high-performing clients in her proprietary live coaching method that helps leaders break through internal limits, drive results, and lead with clarity and power.
Natalie has been featured in Forbes, Thrive Global, Fox News, ABC, NBC, and was recently named one of the Top 50 Women Leaders in Phoenix for 2025.
The Next Conscious Leader Podcast with Natalie Hunter
True Transformation
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In this episode Natalie breaks down what energetic transformation truly is, and shares some of her favorite codes like the difference between "mini work" & "major work", the difference between cleansing vs clearing your energy, and her 4 Core Human Wounds that are at the root of all low frequency patterns (before one goes through what she calls "Expansion Coaching", back to "capital T" Truth). ✨
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Hello, amazing soul, and welcome back to the next Conscious Leader Podcast. The next Conscious Leader Podcast is for the entrepreneurs, coaches, thought leaders, healers, personal brands, industry disrupting icons, aligned visionaries, and transformational leaders. Here for big impact and to bring your light to the world. I'm Natalie Hunter. I'm a master certified transformation coach, an expert change catalyst, trusted by world changers all over the globe. In this podcast, you'll find codes, inspiration, activation, real talk, spiritual truth, and the unwavering reminder that soul-led impact starts with you. I'm so glad you're here. Hello, amazing soul. Thank you for tuning back in. I'm delighted to be dropping back in. Today, I feel like it's going to be another foundational episode and sharing a little bit of how I work to transform the energy. So last week we talked a lot about the energies. We talked about the map of consciousness, the frequencies of the different emotions. I started to touch on how those show up as patterns in our lives. Today I'm going to go a little deeper into that and explain what true transformation of these patterns really looks like. How to transform your energy, how to raise your frequency permanently, and how to expand your energetic field back to more of your true natural state, that high, high vibration of who you truly are. Releasing the old energies, releasing the old patterns, clearing your energy of these patterns in a very effective way. Something that's coming through to share right as I'm getting started here is a slight distinction I like to make with regard to cleansing and clearing your energy. I look at cleansing your energy like taking an energy bath. You can cleanse your energy after a crazy day, after a weird interaction. There are a lot of different ways to do this. But when I talk about clearing your energy, I'm talking about the shifting of those patterns. The things that have truly created your reality take a little bit more than just a quick cleansing of your energy with sage or Palo Santo, right? Or even a quick prayer. It takes work, it takes intention, it takes what I call the six stages of transformation to actually shift these patterns permanently. To therefore create a clearer channel. And I think there, this is not to bash anything in the spiritual world, but I think there's a little bit of a misconception when it comes to the work and what the work really is, which again is why I wanted to create this episode because there's the way I see it too is there's there's what I refer to as mini work, and then there's what I refer to as major work. And the mini work can usually be those things that are just helping realign you in a moment. And those are important practices. I'm not saying that they're not, but they're not necessarily directed at shifting the actual patterns. I'm talking, when I talk mini work, I'm talking things like Reiki, tapping, breath work. And while these can be powerful modalities, they are calling in a lot of transformational energy, but not necessarily then focusing that energy to a behavior change. And that's why I love pairing everything that we do with the skill of coaching, because the skill of coaching is going to facilitate that deep exploration and facilitate the accountability to change the behavior, right? I've been to many beautiful and powerful breath work ceremonies where there's revelation, you see things, you feel things, you release things, you have a very powerful experience, but there's no accountability after that to change the behavior. The same can be true with medicine ceremonies. I have sat in a significant amount of medicine ceremonies in my spiritual work and spiritual life. And I also know that the medicine ceremonies themselves very much need the integration piece to facilitate lasting behavior change. And I'm not saying that that behavior change can't be a result of these things. I'm saying typically in the spiritual world, that portion is not included. And that is something that, again, I really see as the major work. How do you know if your frequency is transforming, you actually feel different, your life starts to look different, you make different choices, your vibration shifts, you feel more peace, yes, but it also ripples out of you. I know a lot of people who've been in this world a long time and feel stuck and feel like there's things that they want to create and they're still not creating them. But that's because there's some major work that needs to be done. In the major work, you're really looking at what you've created as a creator. And if you don't like what you've created, there are ways to change it. There are ways to shift it, which again, I guide people through in my transformational process, my expansion coaching process. I guide you through the shifting of these patterns so that your behavior, your life actually changes. You get different results. So if your life hasn't changed, I would encourage you to look into more accountability, look into more of a transformational container, either personally or in a group, that is going to be guided and directed, not just at giving you information, but also holding you accountable to change. And I went to an event over the weekend that is also in the transformation space with a friend of ours and actually a client of ours here at personalbrand.com. This is this powerful transformational leader and I, we sit and we talk about the transformation space and how it's evolved over the past 20 years. And it's really very interesting right now when it comes to personal development. There's a lot of just dissemination of information, but not a lot of people are holding space for the deep work and the deep accountability that also is needed to have real lasting results with this work. And I do attribute some of this to a very interesting time we're in with AI and technology. We're in an information overload, but humans are still humans at the end of the day. So behavior change will be needed. It is still needed. Hacks will only take you so far when it comes to life and business. And when you especially are the business, personal development is not optional. And I know there's a good portion of you listening right now, too, that are probably thinking, well, I have been changing. I know I've been growing. My life looks different. I've been making new choices. And it's true, you wouldn't be where you are now without the behavior changes that you have implemented. So as I'm going through a little bit more in depth my explanation of energy transformation, I want you to pay attention to your own process and notice that you actually have gone through these stages, even if you didn't know you were going through these stages. One of the ways I talk about transformation is like it's kind of a gross analogy, but we go with it because it came in a download a couple of years ago. It's like mold. Mold can grow out in the wild when conditions are right, when there's just the right amount of darkness and moisture, and the conditions are are there, mold can grow. The same with transformation. When the conditions are right, when life gives you certain pieces of the puzzle and you feel things and you see things, you have sparks of awareness, behavior change spontaneously occurs. And when we set up these circumstances in a container like a petri dish, we can stimulate the growth quicker. We can stimulate transformation and set up the exact circumstances that are needed to trigger a transformation, just like we can do that, you know, with a controlled environment to try to grow mold in the petri dish. And that is what we do with energy coaching. We specifically call in a significant amount of light and set up the circumstances so that you can't help but transform. You can't help but see things and start to move through the six stages of conscious change. And again, you can go through this outside of our containers, of course, but when we're trying to accelerate that process for people, these are the factors that we are using. So listen to this with ears from your own experience, of course, around areas in your life that you have changed and things that have shifted. And I'm going to start to speak about it in the language of energetic transformation or energy transformation, kind of building again on last week's episode, talking about frequency. And I might challenge some of the things that you've heard from the personal development world up until now. And it's not to say that some of these things are necessarily wrong. This uh information that I'm bringing through just comes from many years of studying human behavior change in my containers and with my clients from people specifically who may have already tried a lot of these other things that pop culture personal development might have, might have guided us toward. And I do think that we are going a little bit deeper now with consciousness rising on the planet. We're going a little bit deeper. A lot of people coming to us are figuring out that there's something else going on. You know, maybe there's something in the etheric field, something from another lifetime or something that is maybe just a little bit deeper than childhood wounding. Not to say that childhood wounding doesn't also have an impact. There's a lot of different factors that create energy patterning. Okay, okay. I'm going off on a little bit of a tangent, but I want to reel it back in right now and just talk specifically about energy and transformation for just a second and how I speak about it and how I help facilitate it to create change that lasts. And by that I mean change that is is thorough, it's whole body transformation and its frequency rising, frequency transformation, it's bringing up the high frequency to higher levels of awareness, clarity, joy, peace, etc. That combined with new action, that combined with powerful strategy is actually going to go so far. Because you can have the right strategy, but if you are implementing that strategy from a low vibration, you're going to be creating energy that is not what you want to create, right? So remember, we're little creators. So everything that's being created, there's a reason for it. And we get to explore that while also deciding too what is it we actually want to create and putting when you put like the high vibrational energy and you put the high intention um energy behind the right strategy, everything creates so much faster. Because the energy field is clear. Okay, okay. So how do we get there? You've probably heard the phrase, if you've been in personal development for some time now, you've probably heard the phrase, change your mind, change your life. It's a popular concept in personal development. And while there is some time a little bit of truth to it, in that we must first have an open mind to the possibility of a new reality. When I talk transformation from an energetic standpoint, I actually talk about it in a different order. I talk about it like first we need to go in through the heart space, then the soul clicks into alignment, and finally the mind then can be programmed and gets clearer. So just trying to change your mind doesn't always hold. You've probably been around people who have tried to do affirmations, they've tried to create a new reality by just uh affirming or you know, writing down a hundred times the new belief structure that they wanted to create. And with love, the new beliefs don't work like that. Like crossing out an old belief and writing in a new belief in your subconscious doesn't actually work. It doesn't actually hold. If it was that easy, the personal development industry would not exist. But it does exist because there's a little bit more going on than just telling your mind what to think. Would you agree? Another way to put this is that change truly becomes sustainable when it starts with affective or emotional processing, then moves into the integrative identity work before finally stabilizing in conscious thought. Another way I think about this too is like your body and your behaviors are like a barge in the middle of the ocean, and the the barge is carrying a lot of weight on it, it's carrying a lot of those big shipping containers, right? And when you try to change course, it needs a lot of correcting, right? If you you're trying to turn, it doesn't just take one turn of the wheel and boom, you're on a new course. No, when you when you're in the ocean and you're working with that much resistance, both from the water and from all of the shipping containers, it takes a lot of work to turn that ship. The same is true with your body and your energy field. Just trying to change your mind is like just trying to steer a heavy, overburdened barge and not paying attention to maybe how much weight is on the barge, right? Your energy field is carrying those patterns we talked about. It's carrying that energetic frequency that's denser, that's lower, that's creating a reality that's maybe not what you want to be creating. So if we shift some of that first, we offload some of that information, we offload some of that old energy, we shift those behaviors, we shift those patterns, we clear that energy down all the way down to the root, you're going to find it's a whole lot easier to steer the barge after that. Your soul clicks into alignment once we do some of the emotional and affective processing, your soul clicks into alignment, you remember who you are, you remember truth, and then boom, the programming of the mind and the subconscious mind is that much easier and faster, and it will hold because the energy field is not fighting against you anymore. In, you know, just traditional pop psychology, they would say change your mind, change your life. But if you are trying to create something and you've got extra energetic weight or subconscious programming or patterns that are creating the opposite of what you're trying to create through a low vibration, you're not going to be able to create what you want to create with ease. So I know this through, you know, my own experience and from people who are trying who are coming into my world after trying every other modality out there, right? Trying to do the affirmations and mind reprogramming. In this work, we don't try to force the new thoughts before we get the frequency a little bit clearer. Instead, we go inward and I guide the clients inward to the emotional and energetic layers that are shaping and creating reality at the deepest levels. Neuroscience is also beginning to show that emotional activation precedes cognitive change. Therefore, true lasting shifts happen first when we engage the heart and emotions. When this emotional energy is cleared and transmuted, then the soul like clicks into place. I literally watch it happen. It clicks into place, into returns to natural alignment, and your vibration rises just with that remembrance as well. You start to remember who you are, remember the things that you decided to do in this lifetime. And your light starts to become a little bit more effortlessly expressed through your human self. It's like a calibration that happens. And from there, something powerful happens. The mind naturally starts to get clearer as well. Choices become easier and actions, your actions begin to reflect the new frequency you're living in. Then when you add in affirmations and mind programming, you everything is so much smoother. You have such a quicker and faster result. It's so it holds so much easier in the field. Again, shifting the energy first before even trying to program the mind. And then you notice too, the mind is working with you much more consciously, much more effectively when you do the emotional and energetic work first, too. This is why energy transformation is so powerful because it does create change that lasts. Instead of trying to think your way into a new life, you're shifting the internal energy field that is creating your life. So elevated thoughts, behaviors, and results become the new baseline. And what's actually happening on a deep soul level is you are becoming more you. Like I talked about in the last episode, you're becoming more of your natural soul self and letting go of the patterns and the gunk in your human energy field that is not you. You know, I get beautiful results with our clients, and I help our high performers architect the energy of their next level with precision. And one of the questions I get a lot is how are you able to do this again and again? Like, why are you able to do this? And my answer to that is that I'm able to do this because for each person I work with, your next level brand is you. Just expanded. You have been operating at a frequency that is just not your fullest expression. You've been operating at a frequency that is not you. There's an energetic architecture currently shaping your entire reality that's running your mindset, your thoughts, your emotions, feelings, your actions. It's shaping how you see the world and how you operate within it, both consciously and unconsciously. Energetic transformation is the breaking down and release of those unconscious, stuck energies in the form of old subconscious beliefs, emotions, and patterns to free up your energy body so you can naturally make new choices that are in alignment with you and in alignment with your next level and your true soul, self, and frequency. Because we don't have energy, we are energy. We are life force energy in motion. So therefore, the question becomes where is your energy going? And when you go through the process of energetic transformation, you're really looking down at the structure, at the house, at the reality that your life is right now, the life that your energy has created. And we're expanding it. Another analogy that we use sometimes in our world is like we're building an extension on the house, we on your house of consciousness. But we have to lovingly look at the structures that are holding up your current house before we start demolitioning the demolishing. I always say demolition derby from the 90s there, aging myself for a second. But before we start demolishing those pillars, we have to understand why they're there. We have to realize that they're there for a reason. So energetic transformation is a very delicate process. It takes a lot of work and understanding of self. Awareness gets even more heightened when we do this process because you see really truly what your energy has been creating. And sometimes it's important that we understand why. And sometimes we just need to understand what it is that we've been creating and the impact it's having on us. I think sometimes we in the personal development world, we can get stuck in over-explaining our behavior and understanding why I'm doing this thing and linking it to this wound or linking it to this pattern or linking it to this lifetime. But in actuality, the most important piece is what am I creating now? What's the impact it's having on me? What's the impact it's having on others? And is this what I actually want to be creating? When you really get clear, it becomes kind of a no BS world. Uh, I see a lot of coaches in our world come through my coaching. I coach a lot of coaches, and sometimes, you know, there's an explanation that comes with the answer. Oh, I I know I do this, but I do it because of this, this, and I know that it's not actually the truth, but I believe this and I think this, and I always have to lovingly pause and say, let's not try to overexplain it. Don't coach yourself out of this right now. I don't want an over-explanation. I just want to understand what it's doing to you. Let's talk about that. And that is where the juice is. That is what starts to spark, like I talked about last episode, the horrification process too, which really creates massive fuel for change. And these are just a couple of the stages of the transformation process, my six stages of conscious change, but it's all part of the process of energy transformation. And this is what I train coaches to also hold space for with their clients, helping their clients truly understand what reality is your life force energy currently creating. And that it goes far beyond just the story you're telling yourself. It goes far beyond even mindset. It's the energetic structure. They're invisible energetic structures keeping your current reality in place, meaning you're already impacting the world around you. It's just a matter of how. So to reference the three spheres of energy, too, and creating conscious impact from last episode, this is this is what we're talking about. And you don't increase you don't increase your impact by pushing harder, you increase it by raising your frequency to get back to your soul self. And the reason that this work holds and is permanent is because it is slowly pattern by pattern, as we shift pattern by pattern, it is slowly bringing you back to your highest self, your soul self and who you are without the human stuff. So that's why this work actually holds. My clients will tell you the work that they've done with me is still in place and they just build on it, right? You have next levels of the curriculum, always we have next levels that we get to explore as conscious beings. And so you may see some of the same patterns show up, but in different ways, but you you never actually are going back to repeating that same old pattern in the exact same way when you do this type of work thoroughly, because that little area has already shifted back to when you do this work completely and fully, it's already shifted back toward a more natural version of you, the more higher version of your frequency. So, yes, you may see another part of it later, but your life is actually changing because you are vibrating at a higher frequency and you're holding that over time. I always say this with love. You can't fake frequency. You can't fake high frequency. A lot of people try to cover up low frequency with just positivity and being upbeat, being nice, being kind, being outgoing, but that is not necessarily high frequency. And, you know, I call this, I call this actually mastering your frequency. When you really truly raise your vibration, you're not just raising your frequency to touch and experience high frequency for a short period of time. It's about expanding your energy body by doing what we're talking about, eradicating patterns that are diverting your life force energy. And then you're able to recognize patterns and triggers from a more expanded state and transmute them before they ripple into your life and create a reality you do not desire. So I feel like there's a lot of people in the spiritual world that kind of, you know, experience high frequency. They get really high off after, you know, a session or a break uh breath work ceremony or something, you know, that really gets them feeling that high frequency. And I'm not saying that's not real high frequency. I'm saying what is your resonating frequency at when you're under stress? What is your frequency at in day-to-day lifetime, right? When you're mastering your frequency, you're not just touching it and experiencing it here and there and feeling good and feeling high after drinking some cacao. I love the cacao, but I'm also here for the long-term work, right? I'm here for the true transformation so that you can feel that high frequency more often than not when it comes to these areas of your life where you were previously feeling stuck. And it's important to note that mastering your frequency doesn't mean you will never again have challenges. It means that when the challenges arise, you know how to meet them with an even higher level of awareness, love, and power to shift and transmute them more quickly and easily to create a different scenario effortlessly. The clearer your field is, the faster this happens. This all happens by learning to identify the energetic architecture shaping your current reality, working through the stages of transformation. It's our proven model to shift it so that you can break these patterns that no longer serve you and expand into the version of you you were always meant to embody. Clearer, more aligned, and just so fully activated in both life and leadership. Okay. So this is my definition of you know true transformation. Again, I think this part here about you know kind of touching high frequency is what a lot of the mini work gives us access to. Gives us access to that good feeling, those chemicals, right? The brain releasing the chemicals that make you feel good, make you feel high. And the way to get to high frequency over time is by doing the work to shift the patterns that are eradicating your life force energy consciously and unconsciously. So, where do we go to look? We go to look at the areas that you feel stuck. We go to look at the areas where you know you're creating a reality that is not your highest reality. It's not your highest timeline, it's not your highest expression, right? Where do you feel like you are off? We always go there first to start because in life, there's usually some things that are working really well, right? You're probably already sitting at a level of high frequency around those areas. And if there's any area where you feel stuck or you feel dense or you feel like you're creating a reality you don't want to create, that's where we go to start. And not to continue to repeat myself, but I really truly feel like there's not enough focus on long-term behavior change in the coaching industry right now. The coaching profession, I I there are amazing coaches out there that are dedicated to doing this the true and complete way. But in recent years, we've seen just such an influx of information into this world. And people are selling a course online or they're selling their information online and just kind of hoping that people change with it. And as we head into this next era of the coaching industry, you know, you're you it's going to be about more than just dissemination of information and just selling your course or selling your framework or selling your marketing strategies. You're going to need to be able to actually hold space for people to transform their patterns with your information and with the things that you have to teach them. Understand that your people are stuck for a reason and help them actually change the behavior while they implement your strategy or use your strategy to change their behavior, but understand truly the other pattern that was in place first. Because if people were able to do better, they but without your information, they already would. And there's a reason that the current reality is being created. A quick distinction I want to make, and another area I want to touch on just really super fast while we're talking about transformation is the idea of therapy. And in I have nothing against the therapy world. In fact, in my coach training, we have a significant part of the training where we teach our coaches and training how to identify when somebody needs therapy and when somebody is ready for coaching. And there are sometimes traumatic loops that people are stuck in that are currently creating uh their reality. They're reliving certain situations, they haven't fully processed certain situations, they maybe don't have coping mechanisms in place yet to be able to move forward. And that is a very real thing. I'm not sure how well the healing, coaching, transformation conscious industry really is addressing this right now, too. I think sometimes there, I come across a creator that's like really clear and addressing this with integrity. And then sometimes there's other areas in the industry where people are just dredging up trauma within a coaching session or within a group session and not necessarily doing it in a healthy and safe way. And so it's important to know that, you know, before we go breaking down some of these energetic structures, that somebody is in a place where they can do it responsibly, safely. They are healthy, they are in a place where they have moved past the trauma or they are ready to move past the trauma. They are not currently reliving it, they are not currently in a place where they don't have coping mechanisms or in an active addiction. Those types of areas are not what we're talking about when we're talking about energy transformation. I'm talking about, you know, maybe people who've been through therapy already, they've gone through a certain amount of healing and they're really truly ready to create a different reality in their life now, past it. I'm not saying some of that can't also be present in therapy, but coaching is really, I really see coaching as the modality to really move you forward because it has depth of accountability. And again, I'm not this is not a blanket statement about all therapists. I'm not saying therapists don't also bring accountability into the mix. I'm just kind of speaking generally about the world the way that I am in it, with more spiritual and energetic approach to behavior change. A lot of times with my clients, we are able to help them connect the dots on a soul level with the trauma. You know, this happened for this reason, and wow, my soul was learning this lesson. But there does need to be a healthy amount of distance from that experience for us to be able to do that and be able to officially move forward. We're packing a lot into this episode. Okay. I want to go back to some of the um, you know, kind of like root of these patterns. Where do low frequency patterns and emotions come from that need to be transformed? Many of them are wired into this human experience. And we have our own, what I call human and soul curriculum to navigate these woundings. But over my work over the past two decades, I have found there are four core human wounds. We can also call them kind of four core human beliefs that are wired into the human experience on a soul level. These come from separating from the oneness of all and coming down into a body. When we are separating from all that is, separating from God, separating from the oneness, and descending into this dense uh frequency, this dense realm, there's a fracturing process that happens, and we are coming into a human body which is wired with a nervous system and all of these other human constructs. And the consciousness goes through that fracturing process as it separates from the oneness of all that is, down to experience itself as separate from God, entering into the forgetfulness, right? Entering into this dimension that has so many different factors. Once again, but I found this theme. There are four core human wounds, there are four core human patterns in the belief system that are woven into this human expression. I'm going to share them with you right now. This is coming from my downloads over the years. A lot of people ask me where this came from, who who brought this, you know, whose is this? This does not come from anyone else. This is my own research, my own study, and my own conclusion that the four core human wounds are woven into the root of human experience, souls having an earthly human experience that are currently about 20, some Gen Z years, about 25 and older. Now, the four core human wounds, the reason I say this is because they have not yet been studied or identified in Gen Alpha and younger. But I have seen this in all of the souls that I've worked with that have been older than that age. I just have not worked with many teenagers to have studied this enough at this point in my career. So I call these the four core human wounds for all of the humans that I have encountered that are Gen Z and older right now. And to be determined on what these younger humans slash older souls are going to have wired into them once I'm able to work with some of them and they get older. The reason I say younger humans and older souls is because I also truly have seen that the younger the body right now, the older the soul. And the beings that are incarnating on the earth right now are extremely old souls. They are here to actually rebuild after a lot of these old systems fall during our lifetime. So as the world changers, as the conscious leaders that are, we're here to help break down some of the old systems that are not working. And some of us are bringing through groundbreaking ideas and new technology and new information and new products. And we're gonna see that in mass with the younger generations. They are actually the ones who are here to rebuild after everything else kind of crumbles, if that resonates with you. Okay, wow, we're really going deep here. I'm gonna talk about the four core human wounds for just a second because it really is one of the roots of low frequency patterning in the human experience. So the four core human wounds for your reference first one is this feeling, this belief, this deep feeling of being bad and wrong. Core wound number one, I am bad and wrong. And this stems from feeling cast out of the oneness uh that is all that is, that is God, when you come into the body. So again, we come into forgetfulness, we come into this human experience forgetting that this was part of what we signed up for in order to remember again. That's part of the game, that's part of the trick. But in the beginning, in that core wounding, that core experience of being human, one of the first things that we feel as humans is I am bad and wrong. Second core wound, I am alone. This also is stemming from separation from all that is, separation from God, and into the illusion of separateness by being in a separate body. Um, but it still feels very real. It's a little bit different flavor than I am bad and wrong. The I am alone, you know, links to a lot of other patterns. Core wound number three, I am not safe. This also stems from that uh separating into a body and that feeling of being separate from others. It brings up that danger, brings up that primal feeling of I'm going to be attacked. The ego is also part of the ego's design as well to notice the separateness, but also human body senses fear, it senses the danger associated with that too. It's a very primal aspect of being human. And core wound number four is there is not enough. Notice that I did not say I am not enough. I said there is not enough, which is scarcity, the illusion of limitation, the illusion of separateness. Once again, is coming from coming into a body and having a body that that basically has an end point, you know, it has parameters around it, and it creates this feeling of limitation and like things are going to run out. Things are going to end. There's not enough money, there's not enough air, there's not enough time, there's not enough love, right? The illusion of limitation. Once again, not I am not enough, but there is not enough. Okay, so the four core human moons, once again, I am bad and wrong, I am alone, I am not safe, and there is not enough. And if you look at our limiting behaviors, they are usually stemming from one of these four limiting beliefs, or one of the four core human wounds. So low frequency patterns and emotions stem from these pattern-limiting beliefs, which then create patterned behaviors. So with love, we acknowledge these four core human wounds, we look at them and we we see how they're tied into the belief structure. And I'm more concerned with what you're doing because you believe what you believe. I want to look at the behavior. I want to look at what you're doing because you believe you're gonna be alone. I'm look I want to look at what you're doing because you believe you always believe you're always creating, therefore, because you believe it. I want to look at what you're creating because you believe there's never gonna be enough money. I am, I want to look at what you're doing because you believe that, right? So that is a pattern behavior. Once again, pattern beliefs create pattern behaviors. And if you look at limiting pattern behaviors that are creating your reality as part of that invisible energetic structure, you'll see that almost every single one of them links to one of these four core human wounds. And there's kind of the direct patterning, and then there's that inverse patterning. So, for example, like if you feel so unsafe that you're maybe there's like two ways to go with this. One, you kind of hide out, you feel like you're never gonna be able to share your voice, you're never gonna be able to be seen because it's just not safe, or you're gonna get killed, which is something that's lodged in the etheric field from old lives. Then you might hide out and you might stay small and you might make yourself small. And then there's the other, the other inverse pattern that that I see a lot too, that's possible for people, which is I feel so unsafe, I'm just gonna be reckless. I feel so unsafe. I'm gonna make choices that are not in alignment with my highest because I know none of this matters anyway, right? So there's in there's a million different possibilities for how these patterns play out given the context of a human's life. But the patterns are actually very strategic. And like I've said, you're creating these patterns for a reason. You're creating these behaviors in your life for a very logical reason, right? So, for example, with some of these, the core human wounds, you're creating your reality because you believe that wound or you believe that limiting belief to be true. So when we work with the level of energy and we get very clear on these pattern behaviors, something very powerful happens. The old stories and the limiting beliefs, they don't need to be argued with or overwritten. They simply begin to lose their grip because you expand past them. As we release the patterns, the emotions, the energetic imprints that are holding those patterns in place, the deeper truth begins to surface, and that is you remembering the truth, remembering who you truly are. And then you start to act from that place, which then gives you evidence that the capital T truth is the actual truth, which then truly helps shift your belief system. So it's not that we need to choose a new belief or rewrite the new belief. It's that you remember who you truly are underneath all the noise. Your true expanded nature is suddenly much more accessible. And from there, you're choosing what you desire to create. And your beliefs naturally reflect that when you see the new reality, right? That's where your new beliefs. I always say you're you're your limiting beliefs, you know, you shift and you expand past them. And your new expanded beliefs, they don't get chosen, they get remembered. You're remembering the actual truth of who you are. And then we get to be uh we get to create consciously from choice rather than unconsciously from your wounding. You begin to create and choose all parts of your reality. Rather than spend conscious and unconscious energy trying to avoid what you're unconsciously fearing. So this is true transformation, in my opinion. And having been in this industry for a long time, I truly believe one of the quotes that I often say is that in order to be fully free, you must first be willing to look at all the ways you're not free. And that is what this work allows us to do. I'll I'll go deeper in another episode into the actual transformation process, but I really want to talk today about what true transformation is in mini work versus the major work. The major work is transforming those beliefs at the root by looking at your behaviors and getting really truly honest about the patterns that you're currently creating in your life. And when I hold space for this for our clients, I do so with so much compassion. I truly believe that compassion is the secret ingredient to creating massive change. Because, like I've said a dozen times so far, there's always a reason that these things are being created. And if you go in with curiosity rather than telling somebody they're wrong, then you're going to get much further. Even if they think they're wrong themselves already, if you go in with a wrong attitude or, you know, the the belief, even subtly, that somebody is doing something wrong, they're gonna feel that. They're gonna feel that in you, and they will it will create a more defensive response. And that might not be, if you're a coach or a healer, that might not be what you're trying to create. You're trying to create a space where transformation can truly happen. Compassion is the secret ingredient. And once these patterns shift, you shift into that higher frequency, aka moving higher on the consciousness scale. If you haven't listened to last week's episode about creating conscious impact, go listen to that. I bring a lot more context in about the frequency and the emotional link to for certain frequencies and high frequency. Once you create a higher frequency, you create a smoother internal energy field, which then creates a smoother external energy field. That coherence expands out into your environment, making the path smoother, clearer, more aligned. It's not magic, it's resonance, which can't help but create a more expansive reality. So this is why this work matters, especially if you are the brand and you are aware that you are bringing your energy through to the world. This work is more important than ever. So I think it's time that we talk about true transformation, what it looks like, and create more spaces where this is the norm so that you can truly live the life that you desire. Okay, let me know your thoughts on today's episode. You guys let me know how you feel about this, what you're seeing, what you're hearing. That is all I have for you today. Thank you for tuning back into the next conscious leader podcast. I'll be back very soon with more codes. Let me know what you want to hear from me. And until then, stay strong, stay prayed up, and remember the next conscious leader is you. I'll see you very soon.