Driven To Be The Ultimate Hot Wheels Collector With Bruce Pascal

Ride along with Shawn MrSedanMan Sherrill and John CustomCarNerd Meyer as they talk with Bruce Pascal, the ultimate Hot Wheels Collector.
 
Hot Wheels are just for kids. Think again! Hot Wheels seem to be the main spark that drives kids of all ages into the auto industry. Bruce is no exception. Ride along as we pick his brain about Hot Wheels design, marketing and the profound affect this little toy has had on his life. 

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hey, we're back with another episode to get On Drive podcast. 

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I am Sean Mr sedan man. 

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Cheryl, I am John custom car nerd my are. 

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You know, John. 

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So many people we talked to, we asked him their background, how they get started. 

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You know what sparked him as a kid, right? 

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A lot of times. 

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It's Hot Wheels, oh. 

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Yeah, everybody, everybody had Hot Wheels. 

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I did. 

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I've had Hot Wheels. 

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You you still have a lot of high heels. 

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I have a few. 

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You know, and there's a lot of rare Hot Wheels out there too, right? 

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Right? 

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And you can certainly name off a lot of rare Hot Wheels. 

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You know quicker than I could, that is, that is true and some people follow it more closely than others. 

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Yep, Yep, you know I buy a lot of Hot Wheels for my granddaughter and she's got a a tub way bigger than I ever had when I was a kid. 

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True, and some people just. 

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They take that collecting and really build a good collection. 

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Yeah, one of those people we have one with us today is Bruce Pascal. 

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Bruce has got a killer collection, but he's been putting together for a long time. 

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Bruce, how you doing today? 

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I'm doing great thanks. 

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How are you? 

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Guys doing 

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We're doing well, doing well. 

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How did you get started on your collection? 

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Well, I was born in 1961, So what came out in 68? That was my prime time as a 7 year old kid. 

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So my original collecting was between the ages of seven and nine, where I would fight with my brothers with the orange track. 

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I'd go out and collect a lot of Hot Wheels. 

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And race them and. 

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Trade with neighbors and then I put them all away in a cigar box. 

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Then in 19. 

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99 my mom called me cleaning out the house. 

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House handing me back that cigar box and when I opened it up it was like that seem of I dream of Jeannie. 

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When the genie comes out, it changed my life that one day and. 

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That was about 22. 

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Years ago and whatever I do. 

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I do full speed 5th gear. 

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So that's good. 

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So it got me here today. 

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Wow, that that's pretty cool that she kept all the cars and things. 

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That's that's pretty slick, yeah? 

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'cause I know a lot of a lot of parents will sell things at a garage sale or given the kid next door and they all get mashed with a hammer and. 

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Or a lot of, uh, smash them with a hammer when he was a kid. 

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Yeah, smashing with a hammer yourselves. 

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Yeah, yeah. 

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I I think I put a. 

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Couple firecrackers on him when? 

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I was a kid too. 

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Oh yeah. 

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Because a lot of them didn't so look so good. 

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In that cigar. 

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Yeah, yeah, a lot of people did that with full sized cars as well. 

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That's why a lot of the stock appearing muscle cars and stuff that are highly collectible today. 

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That are actually stock are really expensive because everybody ripped the wheel covers. 

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Off and put. 

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Wheels and mufflers and Jack them up and put a different engine in it. 

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And sure. 

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Yeah, everybody is trying to personalize. 

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Them make. 

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Everybody tried to personalize them. 

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That's what they did with the hot wheel. 

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The first thing you do is rip it out of the package. 

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Your buddy got a pink one and the first thing you do when you have a pink one is. 

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Paint it with a blue brush you know and make it so it's not pink and I hear pink cars are expensive. 

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Yeah, as a general rule, pink was not really that accepted. It was Mattel's attempt to get girls to collect, and they were usually the most destroyed color cars there were. So if you find mint pink card today, generally it's one of the. 

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Hardest colors to find. 

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Because boys mashed them because they said this is a pink car or whatever and they destroyed them because it's a girls car, you know or whatever and they wrecked them. 

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That's crazy. 

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And I think Mattel made less pink colors 'cause it was their attempt to get in. 

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So for every pink car you may see 20 Blues and 20 greens and collectors over time start recognizing the rarity of each color and many times it's hard to find. 

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There's a car called the Pink Beatnik. 

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Bandit it was the original car that came out at Ed Rock Recreation 1968, one of the Sweet 16. If you have that car in the package, the last one sold for over $15,000. 

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Only because they made very few pink beatnik bandit. 

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There's only a few packages known and let's say I've seen in my lifetime 500 blue packages, so you see the ratio, many, many other pink was just super hard to find. 

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Right? 

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Wow, why do you think as today? 

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Because of why? 

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Why do toys exist in the package today that are 50 years old? 

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What stories have you come across of the reason that they're still blistered? 

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Sweet 16. 

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OK, that is a great question. 

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The dream answer, which happened to me once or twice is somebody said my father worked for Shell gas station and. 

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I've heard the barrel stories. 

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They used to pass out. 

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A free hot wheel when you get. 

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8 gallons of. 

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Gas and my dad had five boxes leftover and by the way, those boxes today, if they're filled with 96 cards sell for over $25,000 a box. So some of those boxes have been found. I've myself bought 5 boxes that way from one collector. 

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And then every once in a while, you say the mother was cleaning out the kids closet and opened up their underwear drawer from 50 years ago. 

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And there's a curled up hot wheel that was never opened, and they're found that way. 

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It's absolutely amazing to think about it. 

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Why wouldn't? 

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You have opened. 

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The car up, but thank goodness people didn't open. 

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Them up all the time. 

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I cannot believe and I see social media and watch eBay very closely and. 

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I I try and watch fakes I try and watch what's real. 

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I try and look for markings of what's rare and things and I try and do my best all while still having a 40 hour job you know and. 

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And doing a. 

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Podcast and doing a podcast. 

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You know it's kind of amazing, you know I. 

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Think I sleep sometimes. 

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I guess sleep over rated. 

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Right, right sleeps for suckers. 

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But I can't believe the amount of carded cars that keep coming and keep coming and keep coming out. 

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Do you think they're still coming out or? 

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Do I see? 

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The same cars being traded around people. 

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I I well first of all, there's. 

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A lot of trading going back and forth collections. 

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people you know? 

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Especially I'm at that age where I'm 60 and I'm the original collector. 

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Who you know? 

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Had the cards when they. 

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Came out in 68. 

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And if you start thinking about 60 year olds, that's when they start moving their houses, getting rid of extra. 

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Items maybe a few years ago had to pay for their kids college so collections do circulate a lot. 

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I don't suspect we'll find many, many more shell boxes or many more cachets, but there are a lot more collectors out there than people realize, and you know, you'll see more and more collections go as people start. 

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Unfortunately, to pass away, they'll hit the streets again. 

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Now we we've. 

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Seen that trend and I know you have and it's sad to say, but as the baby boomer generation, the hoarding style baby boomer generation gets a little older. 

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They either pass or they stop. 

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You know liquidating their life, we see a lot of stuff coming out. 

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I mean, there was just an unrestored, hemi Daytona that came out the other day, but in storage they said for 50 years, right? 

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Oh yeah, just. 

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Throwing up 

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How is that possible? 

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It's amazing. 

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Well, think about the stuff that you have. 

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You just don't have time or you don't have the money or I don't have the space so I'll get to it someday, right? 

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Right? 

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Some people never get to it, and I'm sure the same thing happens with. 

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Hot Wheels yeah, that has to be and you know touching on that. 

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A little bit how? 

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How did you find a lot of your collection? 

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Did you did you seek out people or things? 

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I know, I know you have a bit of a story about that. 

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Sure, I I think I have a unique story. Uh, in the year late 1999 I bought the rarest hot wheel in the world. It's called the pink rear load beach bomb. 

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It was a Volkswagen bus that Mattel made, but unfortunately it didn't work with all the accessories. So after making about 100 of them, we suspect. 

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Mattel stopped making them, and they redesigned the car completely. 

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A bunch of. 

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Employees took the car home. 

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And then years later they started selling it and it became the Mona Lisa of the hobby. 

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So when I bought this rarest car in the world, somebody made an accusation. 

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Maybe that car is not real. 

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So what I did is I tracked down the original employee who sold the car to the guy I bought it from. 

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He was so offended that somebody would have said that a car could be faked, and by the way. 

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Of course there are people that do restoration and we can talk about that, but you can't sneak into Mattel's factory and make a hot wheel. You know that just doesn't happen, so he one night sent me this nice pass. 

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Package of his biography of when he started working for Mattel, and he sent me all these newsletters that had pictures of him like the Mattel golf team of 1969. 

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You know the Mattel alumni? 

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For five year award. 

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So one night at three in the morning, I woke up and I said, Oh my God, if he had a car with five. 

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Figures in his garage. 

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Maybe if some of these other guys are alive they have cars in their garage. 

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So, interestingly enough, Mattel had a lot of foreign workers. 

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In the 1960s, nineteen 70s. Why? Because it was cheaper labor to get him from England or Germany, so the names were unusual. 

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Like Odo Gabler, Odo Cooney. 

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So when you got the white pages, if anybody is old enough. 

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To remember what that is. 

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Of course, yeah. 

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Oh yeah. 

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When you started doing my research. 

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It was easy to find a lot of the four names and sometimes I had to call 5 or 10 calls and then finally some would say yes. 

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I worked at Mattel and I would say after an interview of what they did and because I was fascinated to hear more about the history of the company, I would always ask the question. 

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Did you keep anything from your days? 

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And the answer was Bruce. 

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You're going to kill me I. 

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Got rid of all. 

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The cars, but I. 

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Did keep some blueprints. 

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Are you interested in those? 

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Oh wow, yeah. 

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Hey Bruce, I did. 

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Keep my would model because as you know, to make a hot wheel you have to make a four time sized would model it's hand carved, took about 300 hours. 

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I'll sell it to you if you're. 

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Interested and so I got I got. 

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The Ferrari would model and others, so I collected prototypes would models. 

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Employee badges everything related to those factory days, including some of the original artist sketch to make Hot Wheels, and that's what makes my collection different than most other collectors. And I ended up interviewing over 400 former employees and. 

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That is a lot. 

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That is a lot of research, yes. 

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A lot of. 

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That's a lot of. 

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That's a lot of dedication. 

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That's amazing. 

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You know what it was? 

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It's like a spy novel. You know. You get so excited, you gotta find a John Sherman and then you find out you know there's 38 John Sherman's in California and, and I didn't know California well. 

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But I learned quickly El ES El Segundo. 

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What neighborhoods probably were good, and you know, don't call the guy in Monterey. 

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And sure enough, after a while I got pretty good at finding these people because they stayed there. 

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Yeah, hey, once you're in Southern California, you tend to stay. 

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Uh, but I found it. 

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Former employees in Boise, ID and Florida. 

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One guy I I tracked down to Alaska and he was an airline pilot now but it's amazing, you know a little bit of research but it's kind of like you guys you worked your day jobs and then you spend all the times doing podcast. 

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It's fun. 

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To hit that phone, and when the guy would say that was me, I worked at Mattel. 

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I got a victory and it was exciting to learn. 

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Where do you think you were the first person or one of the first people to contact these people? 

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So I'm almost guaranteed I'm one of the first and then I got a lucky break. I made friends with the President of Mattel alumni and he actually invited me to California in the year 2000. 

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I go to a party and I turn around and who do I? 

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See it to party, Elliot and Ruth Handler holy Kelly. 

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President who invented Hot Wheels. 

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Ruth was his wife who invented the Barbie doll 10 years earlier. 

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That is, is absolutely amazing. 

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That that's some good company be hanging. 

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With that is some good that is. 

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Some good company. 

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Well, once I started meeting some of these echelons I was able to use their names and call people, and then one day I hit a bingo. 

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A guy said, hey Bruce, I don't have much. 

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Would you like it to get the 1968 and 1969 internal telephone? 

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A directory from Mattel. 

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And the Bible, would you like? 

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Would you like the Ark of the Covenant? 

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Yeah, I'm good. 

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Yeah, yeah. 

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So I found the Ark of the Covenant and that made my life a lot easier and that probably the greatest payday and nobody had ever know those things existed. 

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But they did. 

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It was absolutely amazing. 

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So I had a lot of lucky breaks, but you. 

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Know what we all? 

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Call it luck, but like you said. 

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There's a lot of work I'd go. 

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To my downstairs. 

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And work every night. 

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9:00 to 10:00 PM. 

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For four years in a row, making those. 

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And and even to this day, somebody called me today and said a former employee gave me your name. 

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I worked for. 

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A A shop that used to work for Mattel. 

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I got some cars with no names on the bottom. 

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Blank braces. 

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Are you interested so? 

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I'm working on a. 

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Deal right now too. 

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Oh cool. 

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Nice and see that's what happens and I think that's what happened a lot. 

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I don't know if you're familiar with Dave shut and he restores. 

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He's in in California. 

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He restores a lot of show rods. 

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And he works with Galpin Galpin. 

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Yep, and he started restoring other show rods and things and someone knew that he did this. 

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Now these cars and people are coming out of the woodwork and he's. 

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The man to go to. 

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Yeah, people are starting to come to him as people have gravitated to you with. 

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Hot Wheels and things. 

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But takes a lot of. 

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It it it, it doesn't for what? 

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Just takes a lot of work ahead of time and you've done a lot of work to get to be where you're the center of attention and people start coming to you and you're doing not that you're slacking off, but you're doing less legwork and people are starting to gravitate to you, which is fantastic, right? 

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It it does take time. 

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And by the way, I walked into. 

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That Galpin Ford. 

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And the highest moment of my life was Petersen Museum, but that Galpin Ford seeing those Ed Roth cars and Oh my God. 

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Yeah, that's. 

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That's all of our friend Dave work. 

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He's restored all that stuff, the Maverick, the Maverick, Funny Car and all of the stuff he did. 

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I think his first car that he redid was he built the Mysterian which didn't exist and I think he he did a show right? 

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Did a mysterian. 

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That's the one with the crazy one eye. 

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And all that, and he built that car and then someone else said, hey, that looks really good. 

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That's the real one. 

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He said no, it's a copy and then he started building other cars and things so he's he's kind of getting like yourself where people are coming to him with these weirdo cars, you know. 

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I I even had a guy called me once and I tried to stick the hot. 

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Wheels says you know it's a disease. 

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It's easy to expand. 

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It is easy. 

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And you gotta stick in. 

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It, but I did. 

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Break my rules and I found the original blueprints. 

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For two  

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model KIT cars and this would be cool blueprints to make. 

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OK. 

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It was like the Tiki Hut I think. 

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Was one of them. 

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There's the they have. 

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The phone booth and they have the outhouse. 

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And all that type of stuff. 

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Yep, so I got the blueprints to make the actual model kit that the actual model kit company used to make. 

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This isn't instructions. 

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These are the actual blueprints to make them. 

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Is this Revell or monogram do? 

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It's one of those two. 

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You know? 

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I forgot the name. 

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Uh, I think it may be rebel, but I I don't remember it put away in my. 

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OK. 

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Files. It's kind of tough. 

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Yeah, I still geek out on show rods, you know? 

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Sean goes the hell is that I'm like. 

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No, this isn't this is. 

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A manure spreader, he says, OK, whatever yeah. 

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So all these are little little pushing the envelope for me. 

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Yep, a giant beer keg you know? 

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Or or a forklift, yeah? 

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Our guitar a guitar. 

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Our absolutely. 

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Packed man don't get me wrong, I appreciate the work that's in. 

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Him Oh my. 

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God, I'm just more of a muscle car, yes. 

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Hot rod type of guy. 

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So real car type of guy. 

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Yeah, I I know we touched a little bit on you talking about restorations and I do a lot of Hot Wheels and I'm kind of focusing on. 

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Sweet 16 to 1970 Redline Restorations right now. 

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Have you come across any restorations that? 

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Fooled you or people that tried to fool you and you knew better. 

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So the answer is yes, that it will let me start off by saying I really appreciate the hobby of restoration. 

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The skill set, the paintings, the you know. 

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And as you may or may not. 

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Know there's a whole industry of selling restoration paints, rivets, parts, wigs, plastic. 

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Parts it's amazing. 

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Yeah, and once in a while. 

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In the hobby we get a car. 

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And we stare at it and stare at it and pass it to the 10 experts. 

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And they're so good it's hard to tell because there's some T techniques now where you literally can use super glue and the bottom rivets are never even changed. 

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And it's hard. 

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And we have something in a hobby called the screwdriver test. 

00:19:22 

Where if somebody willing will put a screwdriver in the back of the car and turn it to the right if the car stays, we know it's. 

00:19:29 

A legitimate car and. 

00:19:31 

If it pops. 

00:19:31 

Open you gotta fake. 

00:19:33 

So a lot of people are scared to take a car that may be. 

00:19:36 

Worth thousands of dollars and. 

00:19:37 

Put a screwdriver next to. 

00:19:38 

It Even so we don't get to do that test all the time. 

00:19:42 

Yeah, I I just put together and completely legitimately because we did probably about 30 auctions the other day on eBay. 

00:19:50 

'cause Shawn and I cleaned out a hoarders house and it was full of toys in the. 

00:19:57 

Basement, so we cleaned the stuff out and we've been putting stuff up on eBay and my wife and I put about 30 auctions. 

00:20:02 

Up the other day and I put up a repaint custom cougar and it's blue. 

00:20:07 

I redid it with a painted tooth. 

00:20:10 

I did not touch the. 

00:20:11 

Rivets it is a completely hand stripped polished body and I painted candy blue and it looks. 

00:20:17 

Real it has. 

00:20:19 

It has old looking wheels on it as original wheels and it's a little rough, you know, and it's kind of banged around the edges and I put it up and I. 

00:20:26 

Knew his restoration. 

00:20:28 

Oh my goodness the messages flew into me that I'm that I'm a crook and I'm trying to trying to pass this off as legitimate and I forgot to put it with restoration. 

00:20:38 

And I see a bid on there. 

00:20:40 

And I'm like, oh God, then. 

00:20:41 

I'm trying to trying to modify this and I just didn't want anybody to think if that was a problem and I'm like, oh God, I'm ready to pull the auction, you know, but everybody was cool. 

00:20:51 

Everybody that that messaged me was cool and everything. 

00:20:54 

I'm sorry that you've run into that, that people. 

00:20:57 

I mean, I'm sure just like art dealers and things people are trying to do a fake, it's terrible. 

00:21:02 

Anytime people can make a buck, they'll try to make him and our general rule is if you're going to sell their restoration on eBay, just say it's a restoration and we know there's a couple sellers that are, and I we feel terrible. There's one seller that I think he's been through 95 different names. 

00:21:10 

It's easy. 

00:21:20 

It's funny. 

00:21:21 

Need those. 

00:21:23 

Yep, and he sells fakes and it's always the same story. 

00:21:27 

You know, my dad worked at Mattel or my neighbor did. 

00:21:31 

And here and I've seen people pay hundreds of dollars of cars, and they're fakes. 

00:21:36 

So nobody says anything and the guy passes away. 

00:21:39 

He always had a nice car. He's happy, but one day he wants to sell it. There is a story of a man who paid $20,000 for a rear loader. 

00:21:46 

And he bought a fake. 

00:21:48 

Wow, yeah. 

00:21:51 

From that same seller we talked about, so it's Todd. 

00:21:54 

And I have to ask this question because I know that there are knockoff, bright vision rear loaders as well as bright vision rear loaders, and I know the base differences and the body differences. 

00:22:08 

Do you still see those? 

00:22:10 

Knockoff rear loaders still coming around. 'cause I heard there was like 10,000 in the original lot. 

00:22:15 

Yeah, I I knock on that. 

00:22:15 

Of the knockoffs. 

00:22:17 

Yeah, I don't know if it was 10,000 but it. 

00:22:19 

Was in 1000 plus and they made. 

00:22:20 

All the different. 

00:22:21 

Colors they made kids and everything. 

00:22:23 

So the answer is I can tell instantly a from the patina of the paint because any car 50 years old the paint looks different than something painted five years ago. 

00:22:33 

That's correct. 

00:22:34 

Do jeez, I'm going to. 

00:22:36 

Share with you a little secret, how, you can tell it's a fake. 

00:22:40 

The original rear loaders were still considered prototypes. 

00:22:46 

So as such, the body of the car, they never polished it and got rid. 

00:22:52 

Of the defects. 

00:22:54 

So it still has casting flaws. 

00:22:56 

Correct, if you look at the sunroof. 

00:22:59 

Of a real ruler. 

00:23:01 

And you if you could put your hand through the glass, if you could you turn your hand around, you would cut your hand because there's extra flashing the bright visions and the knockoffs. 

00:23:11 

The Bryce visions. 

00:23:12 

The top of it is. 

00:23:13 

Perfect as if it's laser. 

00:23:15 

Cut, so that's how I can tell. 

00:23:17 

Instantly and I get calls all the time. 

00:23:20 

But you know what? 

00:23:20 

The number one call I get and I got a call yesterday. 

00:23:23 

They made a car called the Red Baron. 

00:23:26 

Remember that the German helmet 

00:23:26 

Well, yeah, I I just I just sold a A a large spike red Baron. 

00:23:27 

Oh yeah. 

00:23:33 

I mean I did it and it was a OK car. 

00:23:37 

I mean it wasn't something great but go ahead. 

00:23:40 

So when the cars were first made in the United States factory, they would grab whatever color plastic was in the machine. 

00:23:49 

So when the 1st 140. 

00:23:51 

4 red barons were made, they accidentally. 

00:23:54 

Used a white interior instead. 

00:23:56 

Of a black. 

00:23:57 

So when you went to a store. 

00:23:59 

And you bought it from there. 

00:24:00 

The rack every one of the I'll take a guess quarter million or more made had black interiors. There's about 30 that have white interiors because they were made at the factory, so that's worth $3000. Well, wouldn't you know it? In 1993, Mattel decided to reissue their Red Line series. 

00:24:21 

And they made the interior white. 

00:24:24 

The bottom says China. 

00:24:26 

I call every couple months. 

00:24:28 

I got a red Baron with white interior and tell the guy it's worth a dollar. 

00:24:34 

Right? 

00:24:35 

I I have been now because I kept all of the. 

00:24:40 

Yeah, yeah, oh God, I guess their 30th anniversary bars. 

00:24:45 

They came up with. 

00:24:47 

You know all the different reissues of the Vicki and they had the wrong wheels on them. 

00:24:52 

And and all that stuff. 

00:24:54 

Those boxes and the paint. 

00:24:56 

And everything on those cars they're turning to. 

00:25:00 

Yeah they are. I think it I'm thinking correctly was the 25th anniversary of 30. It was one of those two years, but they had terrible paint jobs and it's hard to find one in mint condition. 

00:25:13 

Even impact only worth 2 or. 

00:25:15 

2 to $5 each though. 

00:25:17 

Correct, and I I've been. 

00:25:18 

I've been taking some of those and robbing the wheels from them to do my 70s redline restorations because the through hole wheel looks very very very very similar to correct. 

00:25:30 

70 to 76 ish, you know through whole wheels you know that that type of stuff and they look great for supervan restoration 'cause you can get a medium wheel and a big wheel and all that type of stuff. So it's pretty cool so. 

00:25:44 

Sean's looking because. 

00:25:45 

I'm nerding out you are I am that's all right, that's right. 

00:25:48 

I'm I'm very impressed with your. 

00:25:50 

Hot wheel knowledge. 

00:25:51 

Oh OK, yeah, mine is not so great. 

00:25:56 

That's so great. 

00:25:57 

I told Chad a lot of this interview is probably gonna be between you and him and I just lean. 

00:26:00 

In every now and then, say. 

00:26:01 

I'm still. 

00:26:01 

Here Sean says he's still here, you know, do you have any full size car? 

00:26:07 

Sure, well, ever since I've been married. 

00:26:09 

I've had which. 

00:26:10 

Is 33 years I've had 35 fun cars. 

00:26:15 

So though 1960 Austin Healey 1960 Chrysler Imperial bought it, sold it, bought it back. You ever had that? It's. 

00:26:23 

Peeling, you know? 

00:26:24 

I have 

00:26:27 

70 Dodge are RT 440 Magnum 65 AMC. 

00:26:32 

Marlon 2015 Alfa Romeo 4C62 Chevy Nova. I have currently 2007 I think the first year whatever came out seven or eight grand tourism Maserati I watered from the factory special colour so I I've. 

00:26:47 

Had a bunch of. 

00:26:48 

M 1940 Buick. 

00:26:49 

Cars are in my blood, my love cars and I've. 

00:26:52 

Never had to change the oil on a hot wheel. 

00:26:54 

Though I will tell you that. 

00:26:57 

That is exactly exactly true. 

00:26:59 

Have you have you put a number? 

00:27:01 

And I've it's all been all over the map, so I want to hear from the horses mouth. 

00:27:04 

Do you have a number ish on the amount of loose cars you have? 

00:27:09 

So, interestingly enough. 

00:27:11 

Or or total if you want to even carded. 

00:27:13 

Yeah yeah, I have about here's the. 

00:27:15 

Scoop I have. 

00:27:16 

About 7000 items in my collection. About 3000 of them are paper items, blueprints, notes from the factory, art, artwork, etc. And then about 4000 or Hot Wheels so about. 

00:27:19 

OK. 

00:27:30 

1500 red lines. But when I say most of them are mint but I may have gone through seven different red lines, getting rid of the bad condition once getting to the best shape probably have about a few 100 in packages, but my prized possession is I have about 220 prototypes. 

00:27:50 

Actual cars that were never sold to the public that were literally accidentally taken home by employees and sold years later. 

00:27:59 

I I've been seeing a lot of. 

00:28:01 

Uh, unspun cars and I can say I bought a bunch of them myself. 

00:28:07 

Unspun cars that have been smuggled out of Malaysia factory and they're all over eBay. 

00:28:12 

Correct, I'm against that and. 

00:28:14 

I I, that's why I went like this 'cause. 

00:28:16 

I know. 

00:28:17 

Yeah yeah yeah yeah. 

00:28:19 

So you got to realize there's. 

00:28:20 

A difference in 1968, nineteen 69. 

00:28:24 

An employee taking a hot wheel home. 

00:28:26 

Was not much different than a McDonald's employee taking a burger wrapper home. 

00:28:31 

You know, from the factory saying I'm going to use this to, you know, to take notes on or something and it really wasn't a thievery. 

00:28:40 

Because guess what? There was no hot wheel collecting in 1969 through 75. It was just. 

00:28:47 

Right, right? 

00:28:50 

These factories and Mattel switches them apparently. 

00:28:53 

Often they're thieves that come in, steal the cars, and there's two things they do that really hurt Mattel number one they sometimes put on eBay. 

00:29:04 

A car that's coming out three months later that Mattel wanted it keep its surprise. 

00:29:09 

And I feel sorry because in the toy industry you know it's a secret of when a car comes out so that that really hurts. 

00:29:17 

Mattel, and then the fact that people are stealing from the factory. 

00:29:20 

And people are. 

00:29:21 

Buying them, I've never and never will buy. 

00:29:25 

One of those fake you. 

00:29:27 

Know those cars from Malaysia or China? 

00:29:30 

Uhm, it's just to me that you're part of. 

00:29:33 

A stealing thievery to do that. 

00:29:34 

You know? 

00:29:34 

I and I completely understand and the couple that I bought and I bought them and I'm like man this has got to be an. 

00:29:41 

Early car you. 

00:29:43 

Know a super treasure hunt 'cause obviously you can change the wheels on water. 

00:29:47 

But I bought. 

00:29:48 

Some of the 50th anniversary cards and they. 

00:29:50 

Weren't on the store shelves yet. 

00:29:52 

Yep, Yep. 

00:29:53 

And I couldn't believe that and I bought, you know, some of the gold chase, Camaros and some of that stuff from 50th anniversary. 

00:30:01 

Eight months before and I saw it on there and I couldn't believe it. 

00:30:04 

You know, and I just kind of wanted your idea on that situation. 

00:30:08 

'cause I hate it as well. 

00:30:09 

I see what's happening. 

00:30:11 

Yeah, I just. 

00:30:12 

Think it's it's it's it's. It's bad. It also devalues the overall you know it. I gotta tell you I spent 300 hours 75 interviews and I finally got an UN spun original 1968 silhouette. OK, now there's 70,000 of them coming from, you know China. 

00:30:32 

It hurts the hobby when there's so many dumped out there because the older ones are truly, truly like finding a piece of gold in it in. 

00:30:41 

A stream. 

00:30:42 

The newer. 

00:30:43 

Ones are like going to target in a sense. 

00:30:44 

It's good on eBay. 

00:30:45 

You can buy them. 

00:30:46 

Exactly have you talked to some of the, uh? 

00:30:49 

Original people that were at Mattel and asked them, did you think this would explode and kind of talk to them about that and do what are you? 

00:30:59 

Are they surprised that this is a giant phenomenon? 

00:31:01 

Elliot Handler himself didn't even know there are hot wheel conventions when he was in his. 

00:31:07 

80s he only. 

00:31:08 

Went to the Barbie conventions to his wife. 

00:31:12 

Shocked they were all shocked. 

00:31:15 

Uhm, nobody ever thought. 

00:31:18 

This would be you remember, there's a usual toy cycle that you know jumping Jacks comes out, or you know, an electric truck comes out and through you know, dies three to five years later. 

00:31:30 

Hot Wheels have been since 1968. Going strong, said her record sales last year. And that's 50. 

00:31:39 

Well, my math isn't as good 53 years. 

00:31:42 

And it's the. 

00:31:43 

Number one boys toy in the world today. 

00:31:46 

And thank goodness one of the positive effects of COVID is kids started playing with things again instead. 

00:31:52 

Of the computer. 

00:31:54 

There's a resurgence. 

00:31:55 

And we always talk about what drives youth, YO? 

00:31:59 

UTH 

00:32:00 

'cause our our main mission is to get other younger folks involved. 

00:32:06 

And we talked about that quite a lot. 

00:32:07 

Sean Bruce, are you? 

00:32:08 

Are you doing something? 

00:32:09 

'cause I saw something a while back and you can have people you had some folks over. 

00:32:14 

At your garage and they were playing with Hot Wheels. 

00:32:17 

Do you do things to get others involved in the car, hobby or? 

00:32:20 

Lighting hobby. 

00:32:21 

All the time I have a 4000 square foot warehouse where I keep my collection. I have three art gallery rooms. I'm calling you from there one now and then. 

00:32:30 

I have a warehouse with my real cars. 

00:32:32 

It's all decorated Hot Wheels. 

00:32:34 

I put track on the ground and I open it up. 

00:32:36 

I go to Facebook and say warehouse. 

00:32:38 

Open give me. 

00:32:39 

A call and then I usually get adult collectors. 

00:32:42 

And I say no, no, no, just kids. 

00:32:45 

Uh, I had a kid came in yesterday who was visiting from California. 

00:32:48 

Yeah, Zach said he is the number. 

00:32:51 

One hot wheel collector in the world. 

00:32:52 

In his mind you know, and she wouldn't tell him, and he came here and he was totally surprised. 

00:32:56 

He spent an hour and a half walking around taking photographs and I let him hold and he took pictures. 

00:33:03 

The rarest hot wheel in the world in his hands, so I love reaching out for kids, you know, Hot Wheels. 

00:33:09 

Are a great. 

00:33:10 

Teacher for kids. 

00:33:11 

Of all the different cars, that's how most kids learned cougar, you know, Camaro, they get it from the hot wheel and then they're driving on the road. 

00:33:21 

And going dad, there's a Camaro. 

00:33:23 

Yeah, that's exactly what I did, and that's how I taught my kids and we laid out Hot Wheels and, you know, as soon as my kids could speak. 

00:33:33 

And my friend saw was crazy. They'd pick up a car. They go 32 Ford, you know this is a this is a cougar. 

00:33:39 

This is a 57 Chevy. What makes that a 57 Chevy buddy and he would tell me and that's important and I'm sure you instill that in your kids as well and that type of stuff and pointing out differences. 

00:33:50 

Yeah yeah, yeah. 

00:33:53 

Yeah, I bought a lot of stuff with my lot of wheels for my kids and now I'm fighting for my granddaughter and I'll go through and I'll pick. 

00:33:59 

Out the ones I think is cool so that. 

00:34:02 

Not the brainwasher, but. 

00:34:04 

That's all in your cool information, yeah? 

00:34:08 

But to kind. 

00:34:09 

Of lead her in what is cool. 

00:34:11 

You know what I think is cool, sure, and you know I did that with my kids, I'm. 

00:34:15 

Doing that with. 

00:34:16 

It's not brainwashing, it's a small seed and. 

00:34:19 

I think you see that's what I'll do I guess. 

00:34:22 

Yeah she absolutely loves Hot Wheels and will play with them just for hours. 

00:34:22 

Thank you. 

00:34:29 

My wife gave me, my wife, gave me some Giant 6 lane thing, hot wheel thing the other day and we opened it up and his granddaughter was at the house and I don't think I. 

00:34:41 

Played with it, yeah. 

00:34:42 

You you did, but she played with for. 

00:34:43 

Like 2 hours to. 

00:34:44 

Play with it. 

00:34:45 

Yeah, she played with it for like 2 hours and Sean son so that just tells you that. 

00:34:50 

Hot Wheels in general. 

00:34:52 

New or old they don't have and I'm sure it says it on the box, you know, but it doesn't have an age range. 

00:34:59 

There are 8 year old collectors and there are 8 year old collectors. 

00:35:04 

It's absolutely amazing. 

00:35:06 

Sing and I personally, even though I'm a collector. 

00:35:09 

Of older Redline era 1968 through 1977. 

00:35:14 

I buy probably a few 100 cars a year and just like you, I look at the rack. 

00:35:19 

I look for the real cars. 

00:35:22 

If it , I won't buy that. 

00:35:25 

You're not into the fantasy cars, you gotta. 

00:35:27 

Have the real fright right? 

00:35:28 

Right? 

00:35:29 

Yeah, I love it. 

00:35:30 

And you know what? 

00:35:31 

Over time it's funny in the collectibles world the real cars have held their value multiple times over the fake over the fantasy cars. 

00:35:41 

The fantasy cards, right? 

00:35:41 

If I could use that expression. 

00:35:43 

I mean, who wants a road grader with flames or something? 

00:35:45 

Well, there's one right there. 

00:35:49 

Some idiot put it in a box over there. 

00:35:52 

But let let's give credit where credit is due. 

00:35:55 

Back in 1969, Ira Guilford. 

00:36:00 

Penned the first car that was never a real car or a show car because that was what happened in 1968 and he made a car called the Twin Mill with twin engines in the front court head so the creativity of a toy designer to make and design what cars should look like. 

00:36:21 

I think there's you know that should be celebrated also because that's pretty cool. 

00:36:25 

They've come up Larry Wood and others have come. 

00:36:27 

Up with some amazing design. 

00:36:29 

Things and great names, by the way, try baby noodlehead you know? 

00:36:34 

Uh, it's great, so I do think there's really some specialness to look back at these Hot Wheels that were designed that looked like cars back in the late 60s and early 70s. 

00:36:48 

Oh yeah, yeah. 

00:36:49 

That windmill that. 

00:36:51 

That's an iconic. 

00:36:52 

That is, as is as iconic a car is, you know the Red Baron and that type of stuff. 

00:36:58 

And that was all for show rod promotional over the top toy sales. 

00:37:04 

You know, that's all what it was about. 

00:37:06 

But now it becomes folklore that that thing exists, you know. 

00:37:11 

And it never. 

00:37:11 

Did before. 

00:37:14 

And it's a giant commercial for toys. 

00:37:16 

How about a chaparral? 

00:37:18 

Right? 

00:37:19 

Yeah idea. 

00:37:21 

No idea what that is. 

00:37:23 

Right? 

00:37:25 

Paul says it's a boat, you know, I, I have no idea what a chaparral is. 

00:37:29 

It was a race. 

00:37:29 

You know and. 

00:37:31 

I would dream to find. 

00:37:33 

The real 312 P Ferrari. 

00:37:36 

Though that was gorgeous. 

00:37:38 

There's a hot wheel. 

00:37:39 

Yes, all that all that type of stuff is really good and I thank you and applaud you for collecting not only the available to everyone. 

00:37:52 

Ours, but collecting the history of that type of stuff and I see there's posters and things behind you in store displays and that type of stuff. 

00:38:02 

And you know, we've talked to people in different realms of collecting and they collect the weirdest thing you know, like a napkin that says, you know. 

00:38:12 

Board and on it or or you. 

00:38:14 

Know or coca? 

00:38:15 

Cola or McDonald's or whatever and things and it's and it's just amazing. 

00:38:18 

This the most of the things that are the most expensive, were the things that were meant to be thrown away. 

00:38:25 

Yeah, it's like store displays and they're very. 

00:38:28 

Uhm, easily, easily broken, or easily destroyed, or meant to be only up for two weeks and they throw them out. 

00:38:36 

Uhm, those are the most the most incredible things. 

00:38:40 

And I see that you've collected that type of stuff so. 

00:38:43 

Other than the beach bomb, what do you think is your most collectible or the most think expensive car past the beach bomb? 

00:38:52 

Sure, well I. 

00:38:53 

Call the beach bomb the king. 

00:38:55 

Of the hobby. 

00:38:56 

The the queen. 

00:38:58 

Of the hobby is a very interesting story. 

00:39:01 

Have you ever been to McDonald's and you see? 

00:39:03 

A picture of a hamburger. 

00:39:04 

On the wall and it looks. 

00:39:06 

Perfect. 

00:39:07 

And the tomato the Pickles OK. 

00:39:11 

Yeah, food photography is fooling. 

00:39:13 

Then you get your McDonald's hamburger and you open it up and it looks like somebody stepped. 

00:39:17 

On it right? 

00:39:18 

Right? 

00:39:18 

Yeah, OK OK Well Hot Wheels wanted to make commercials in. 

00:39:23 

1968 

00:39:25 

And they realized if the car just, even though the cars were translucent and. 

00:39:29 

Pretty if they went down the track real fast for the TV commercials, they wouldn't really sparkle so. 

00:39:38 

They said to the factory in Hong Kong, why don't you make some that look like Christmas ornaments so they barrel plated the metal to make it look like a mirror and then they added a translucent paint. 

00:39:54 

And these cars are so stunning that I swear if I put it on a choker on my wife, you would think. 

00:39:59 

It's a piece. 

00:40:00 

Of jewelry. 

00:40:01 

They're drop dead gorgeous, and the average one is worth at least $20,000. And I own a few of them and, and there's still one I'm trying to buy my. 

00:40:13 

My that my that a woman owns that's a strawberry beautiful Mustang and. 

00:40:20 

With open hood. 

00:40:21 

Scoops if you know what that means. 

00:40:22 

I do I do? 

00:40:23 

And it's cromey and years. 

00:40:25 

Later they made the Chrome car. 

00:40:27 

You may remember you sent. 

00:40:28 

A dollar into the Chrome. 

00:40:29 

Car so they made it years later, but in 1968 there's maybe only twenty of these. 

00:40:35 

Known in the world and. 

00:40:36 

That's what I was going to. 

00:40:37 

Ask of the over Chrome cars, do you? 

00:40:38 

How many do you think or are out there? 

00:40:41 

There's probably about 20, probably about half of them are in mint condition because they came from the employee shelves to collect yourselves, and then for some reason some of them are. 

00:40:52 

Beat up up. 

00:40:53 

You know, they you know, destroy glass, broken, etc. 

00:40:56 

But you can see through the paint the mirror color. 

00:41:00 

Pretty cool cars. 

00:41:02 

That is incredible. 

00:41:03 

I know Bruce, you said you have Hot Wheels everywhere in your house, but you have to have Hot Wheels in your blood and automotive DNA is is that true? 

00:41:12 

It's absolutely true if I did a 23andMe test tomorrow, I have a little bit of motor oil in me and let me tell you how I got it. 

00:41:22 

My grandfather in the 1940s through 1962 he worked at the National Archives in the Transportation Department. 

00:41:32 

And he was the. 

00:41:33 

Foremost authority and historian on the history of automobiles. 

00:41:40 

And as a joke, someone gave him a toy car. 

00:41:43 

In the 1940s. 

00:41:44 

And nobody collected toy cars except my grandfather Leo Pascal, and I grew up in an environment, but playing ping pong and making sure I didn't lean too far. 

00:41:54 

Otherwise I'd hit an antique toy car. 

00:41:57 

So it's in my blood and I grew up. 

00:42:01 

My father ended up taking over that collection and. 

00:42:04 

Had a 1929 Buick and had a 19. 

00:42:08 

60 Rolls Royce so. 

00:42:09 

I didn't know there was such a thing as family vacations. 

00:42:12 

I thought it was just antique car club meets and Rolls Royce owner Club meets so he didn't find out. 

00:42:17 

That's really, that's really all there is. 

00:42:17 

Till later this morning. 

00:42:19 

I mean, I don't understand what your problem is in the in the perfect utopia of my life. 

00:42:24 

I mean, that's probably pretty close. 

00:42:28 

You told you told us earlier that he despised modified cars. 

00:42:34 

Oh my father, if I'd go to a. 

00:42:35 

Car show and. 

00:42:37 

Somebody you know raked up the back wheels or. 

00:42:40 

You know, took off. 

00:42:41 

The hood and had an engine exposed. 

00:42:43 

You know my. 

00:42:43 

Father would look at me and say, you know it. 

00:42:46 

It wouldn't have been nicer for that guy just to restore the way it should have been. 

00:42:49 

You know, made from the factory. 

00:42:51 

Right? 

00:42:51 

And well, until I start later on appreciating. 

00:42:55 

And those cars are pretty cool Dad, I don't know. 

00:42:57 

What you're talking about? 

00:42:58 

But yeah, he was a yeah. 

00:43:01 

I guess if his father is a true historian. 

00:43:03 

You know you gotta grow. 

00:43:05 

Up by the rules your father taught you, right? 

00:43:07 

That's the way my dad was. 

00:43:09 

I was always into taking things and cutting them up and turning them over and sticking the engine out and changing things and chopping the top and doing all that crazy stuff with Hot Wheels and model cars. 

00:43:19 

And my dad kept asking me what, what, what are you doing? 

00:43:23 

The stock is boring. 

00:43:24 

Yeah, stock the stock is someone elses idea. 

00:43:27 

Of how it should be, I need my idea of how it should be. 

00:43:28 

Right? 

00:43:31 

And that kind of was my creative outlet. 

00:43:33 

You know my dad always told me I'd break something before I got out of. 

00:43:36 

The box and that's kind of the way it was. 

00:43:40 

You know, I, I snapped the head off my Evel Knievel under my dad's 59 Edsel. 

00:43:46 

You know, that's my 70s Evel Knievel story. I cranking that thing up and it hit my dad's Edsel and snapped the head off of it, you. 

00:43:55 

Know and still play with it though. 

00:43:57 

Oh headless evel knievel. 

00:43:59 

That's right. 

00:44:00 

But how do you know it's evil? 

00:44:02 

It could have. 

00:44:03 

Been another rider, it was. 

00:44:04 

Oh, that's exactly correct. 

00:44:07 

Well, that's fantastic that that you're collecting things that are customized and you like the custom stuff and your dad instilled with you that things are supposed to be stocked. 

00:44:16 

That's a good yin and Yang. 

00:44:19 

There's room for everything. 

00:44:20 

There is room for everything, yes. 

00:44:23 

It took me years to discover that these modified cars and the modified Hot Wheels. 

00:44:29 

They're really displays of talent there. 

00:44:31 

There this is people skills, whether it's painting, metal work, et cetera. 

00:44:36 

So it's pretty phenomenal. 

00:44:38 

So Bruce, if people want to follow you on social media. 

00:44:41 

How would they find you? 

00:44:42 

Well, the easiest way is to follow me on Instagram and my code word is hashtag. 

00:44:49 

Pink beach bomb. 

00:44:52 

PINK. 

00:44:52 

Very good. 

00:44:55 

Just like it sounds. 

00:44:58 

Yeah, I've followed you for quite a while on pink beach bomb and you post up a lot of rare stuff so it's a lot of cool extra pieces and things that people may not see anywhere else on your Instagram feed, so it'll be great. 

00:45:11 

Well, thank you, I appreciate you following me. 

00:45:14 

I thank you a ton for hanging out with us for a. 

00:45:17 

Little bit, but interesting. 

00:45:19 

You guys have a great show and it looks. 

00:45:21 

Like you have a great. 

00:45:23 

Fun time doing it and that's it. 

00:45:25 

Yeah, well we do. 

00:45:25 

Yeah we do and we try and give our listeners you know a reason to follow you on social media they like real cars and they may have a few collectors. 

00:45:37 

You know Hot Wheels that you people you may not know about, you know, so we try and give people different avenues. 

00:45:43 

When we stray off. 

00:45:44 

We you know, for collecting small Hot Wheels and things so. 

00:45:46 

Find a lot of people are. 

00:45:48 

Which have how we'll collections or have model collections and they enjoy hearing about that stuff too. 

00:45:51 

I need. 

00:45:54 

They enjoy hearing other people their age, yeah, or collecting that stuff as well. 

00:45:54 

Right? 

00:45:58 

Exactly exactly. 

00:45:59 

I'm sure some people out there love to hear us talk. 

00:46:02 

We would love to hear other people talk to us. 

00:46:04 

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00:46:08 

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00:46:08 

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00:46:12 

Right? 

00:46:13 

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00:46:14 

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00:46:16 

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00:46:19 

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00:46:23 

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00:46:26 

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