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Welcome to the Cat and Moose podcast. I'm Kat.
Speaker 2:And I'm Moose. This is a true life podcast where we explore the quirks of being human. Oh, we're recording. Okay, great Guys, we're recording. Oh, hi, all right, hi, kat, hey, sarah.
Speaker 3:Hi Hi Kat, hi Sarah, hi Hi Sarah, hi Moose, hi Moose, hi Moose.
Speaker 2:Hi Moose, hi Moose, hi Moose.
Speaker 1:Hi Kat, hi Sarah.
Speaker 2:So welcome everyone to the Cat and Moose podcast. If this is your first time, this is the kind of chaos that ensues Yep, and we welcome you. It sounds like we're all on a struggle bus this week. Is that fair, Accurate?
Speaker 1:I mean accurate, and I think that over the past, like four to eight weeks of the podcast, the last four to eight weeks of the podcast, I think we have started by saying some version of so we're all struggle busing right now. Hey, if there was a category on the podcast apps that said struggle bus, I would list us under there, yeah, yeah, me too, me too, and I think that is going so well is because we start out every week by saying how hard life is.
Speaker 2:Yes, I do because we're honest. I think that's why we're so relatable. Yeah, by the way, we got a compliment last week. Somebody was talking about how they listened to tons of podcasts and they were like, hands down, your guys's audio is better, your production is better. I don't, they couldn't believe that some of these major podcasts who are with networks and things like that, you know, have tons of editing issues and stuff. So we got a little kudos there, yeah.
Speaker 1:I really, I really like that. Like every week when I go back and listen to the podcast, I am consistently so impressed with the production. Hey, thanks guys Like I feel like we sound as good as we can sound, and I feel like the additions that you add to what we contribute, sarah, like, are just so brilliant, and I just am really, really impressed with you, sarah, as a producer and as a human. And so I just want to say that for our whole entire listening audience, that you are.
Speaker 2:Let's give us a cheer guys.
Speaker 3:Thank you.
Speaker 2:Hey, if you love the podcast, tell your friends we need. We need our friends to tell our friends we need our friends.
Speaker 1:To have some friends and to have a friend, you have to be a friend. Amen, amen. I am free of responsibility. I am not in charge.
Speaker 2:I am not in charge. I am not in charge. I am not in charge.
Speaker 1:Moose, the way that the corners of your mouth turn up when you sing that song, it is like. It is like one of the indicators of absolute and pure joy in your soul. I have learned, and it's like these little, these little dimples happen right here and this little like smile happens. It's so adorable.
Speaker 2:Well, thank you, I do. I am grateful. Today I had a weird thing happen. I'll talk about later, but before we get started. Before we get started, it's time for prayer, just kidding. Okay, I would like to choose three cards for each of you out of this card deck that Sarah Bamford Sidleman happens to be the sister of Maria Bamford, by the way, the comedian, how good, can you let it get? All right, kat, tell me when to stop, okay.
Speaker 1:That one.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 2:Oh, this is good. Okay, which one? Now this one.
Speaker 1:Okay, okay, sarah, thank you for knowing how stupid I'm being right now. Okay, uh-huh.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, this one, nope, okay, she, that wasn't the one. Tell me when to stop.
Speaker 1:That one.
Speaker 2:It even popped out.
Speaker 3:Okay, here are your cards, kat.
Speaker 2:It popped on out Okay, your first card that you chose was it was a buffalo or a bison, whichever you prefer. And it says relax. And what it says is if I could give you only one piece of advice for your life, it would be to take it easy. There is a lot to experience, feel and do, but it will all be more enchanting and less hairy if you can stand down. I believe in you. Try relaxing now. And it even says dear God, please help me drop all tension from my body and stay restful, yet alert, so you can work through me. Great Kat, amen, kat, amen. Okay, make time.
Speaker 2:Is your next card, kat, with these beautiful butterflies? Okay? And it says cultivating relationship with spirit is the single most important thing you can do to help yourself and everybody you love. By drawing close to God or universe, your higher power, whatever you call the great mystery, you'll temporarily be given a reprieve from suffering. With practice, little by little, you'll be able to bring a little bit of heaven back to earth. So you need some Jesus. And then be tender. This is good. We need you to be tender. Taking everything personally can lead to misery. To avoid this approach, everything softly, like a feather oh, feather is important to you. Okay, walk on the ground like a feather, listen like a feather, speak like a feather. This sounds like you wrote this damn thing. Feathers enable flight, not because they are hardened, but because of their softness. Where will you try to bring a little tenderness, kat?
Speaker 1:That's your stack. Do you want me to answer that question? Yeah, it is a conversation. Will you ask it again? Nobody's bitter.
Speaker 2:I'm not bitter either. I need to remember how to convert converse. It's not easy for me. Okay, so did any of those mean something to you and what are you taking from that?
Speaker 1:Every one of those meant something to me. The one encouraging me to relax is something that, for financial reasons, I have made some adjustments in my supportive healing things that I receive. Yeah, because it's getting close to Christmas Money is tight right now, just all the life things and so I have said okay, I've acquired and developed a lot of tools that I know how to use and so I'm just going to pump the brakes a little bit on paying for my support team to support me. And one of the things that one of my people who told me is that, while you are not going to engage in this practice, like with me, as much as maybe you normally do, you might want to check out like, what are you going to do for yourself to compensate for that? And one of the things that you might consider, because I think it's important to you, is Some sort of spiritual practice like meditation, contemplation, etc. Etc. Etc.
Speaker 1:And I have been doing different versions of that. I'm not it's not looked the same every day since that was recommended to me and I've been been doing it semi regularly and I am taking a week and I'm going to go and do my job from out in Southwest Colorado in a couple of weeks I'm gonna have to take on my podcast gear, like I'm gonna have to like, do all the things and and I'm really excited that like, and I'm not taking the week off per se I am going to go and do my job in a different environment, correct, and I'm going to do that in a different environment where there is also a weekend, so that I can Really be off and relax and go to the hot springs and go, and you know, we've talked about maybe that's when I get my tattoo and and stuff like that. And so that card really resonates very beautifully with me moose. And then the second one that had the butterflies on it. What was the admonition?
Speaker 2:it was Make time, make time, make time yeah and I think that was with your creator.
Speaker 1:Yes, and, and I would say again, like that fits into the whole, like kind of meditation, contemplation, all of that, like I've I've asked for those moments to be inspired. So, yay, I'm doing that too. And then the the last one being tender, the symbolism of a feather is really, really important to me. It has become something to me that I view is like a manifestation of my guardian angels, of like my people who protect me or give me wisdom, or whatever you want to call it. The Holy Spirit feels very good to me. I Feel that is symbolized by feather, and so it's just neat that, yeah, yeah, and and I do try to approach things very tenderly, and sometimes too tenderly, so sometimes I need to just go like I need you to do your fucking job, you know, it's like I don't need to be so tender and I so, yeah, I feel like these cards really are resonant with me and I'm so curious like what you guys are gonna pull. I love it.
Speaker 2:Okay, sarah, three cards, here we go. Boom, boom, boom. Let's push through.
Speaker 3:Tell me when to stop, I'm just gonna say one, two and three and you're gonna grab them.
Speaker 2:Okay, go one.
Speaker 2:Okay, I'm not even looking. Two, okay, three, well, yeah, I'm not ready. Okay, three, okay, here we go the cards today for Sarah and possibly any of our listeners. Take what you want from this. Your first card is Kat's gonna be jealous of this one. You guys could just play goat, goat, go fish or goldfish, which is it? Go fish, okay, easy tiger says. Zeal can be an excellent quality and will help you accomplish great things. Just remember to allow a dose of its polar opposite Slacking off to balance it. Oh, that's all I do. Okay, well, okay, great, um, so great job.
Speaker 3:I'm doing great, then Okay, good job, sarah. All right, thank you.
Speaker 2:And then secondly, share your medicine. I feel like your guys cards are are getting swapped. That's cool Looking. Share your medicine, sarah. Do what you're fucking amazing at. I'm just reading what the card says. I don't normally say words like that Give us what you've got, name one of your superpowers right now and find a way to use it. Okay, you're on the spot go.
Speaker 3:Audio production.
Speaker 2:Yeah, manifest it. What do you want to do with audio production? I?
Speaker 3:want to produce more audio, oh great.
Speaker 2:If you want Sarah to produce your podcaster audio book, go for it. Okay, next swim in it.
Speaker 3:Oh, that's a pretty one.
Speaker 2:Okay, here's what it says. Cash is a subject Wow we just talked about. Let's all take this in whatever it says.
Speaker 3:I mean this is for all of us today cash is a subject you think about a lot.
Speaker 2:I Recommend you stand knee-deep in the river and really feel the flow of life. Wow, the sensation of lack Often emerges when you're mentally rehashing a past financial debacle which, by the way, was not really a debacle, but just what happened. When you feel poor, return to the flow, swim in it, revel, invite someone who stuck on shore to join you. Hmm, this experience is all you've ever really longed for.
Speaker 3:Anyway, Wow, that's special. That's pretty awesome.
Speaker 2:Well, fantastic.
Speaker 1:Okay, your turn. Well, I I mean, maybe it's my job as the self-important Commentator to want to say something about every one of those cards on your behalf, sarah. Do it go my gosh, like you're doing the thing.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I am.
Speaker 2:You're doing the incredible, great. Okay, I want to say something here because this is important. I want to honestly say, like, if people don't know what these cards are some people call them Oracle cards they're not terror cards, Don't worry. And and guess what? I don't care if you do like terror cards, I think that's fantastic.
Speaker 2:But what I want to say about these things there are signs and things all around us. Like cat, you got something about a feather. A feather is so important to you, sarah. Part of that is exactly something that you're walking through right, this isn't telling the fortune, it's, it's the universe going here. It's all here in front of you, and I had an experience the other day where I said, sarah, instead of saying when is it gonna happen, let's start saying it is happening, like this is part of the process. Yeah, this is happening, and that's not so much manifesting as for me, it's going like that.
Speaker 2:I have learned, if I've learned anything, I have learned that things are a process, and the reason I don't have or Haven't had a chance to Experience all the dreams that I have dreamed of is usually because I'm not at a place where I'm ready for whatever that is, and so, anyway, I said all of that and then yesterday I was sitting on my couch meditating and I look up and there's a sign. I'll take a picture of it. But there's a sign in my office that simply says the story is happening and this giant font, and I'm like, oh Well, bless my heart, I just realized that that is what I want for my life too. Hmm, and then on the other side of my office says allow it all, which. You can't put that on your office wall if you aren't gonna do it and I.
Speaker 2:It's so hard sometimes to allow the really hard shit, especially when it threatens your security at times. You know or at least for me, that's what scares me. I'm sure for some people that's disconnect or Whatever. But um, anyway, all that to say, I feel like this week that has been so in my peripheral, like everything is right here, like the answers are all right here.
Speaker 2:I just have to pause and like pay attention, to listen to it or hear it or see it. Listen and hear are the same things. They might not be.
Speaker 1:That's that they're very different. I'm are fighting words, in my opinion. Oh, tell me about that. Well, I just don't think listening and hearing are the same. I mean like you can hear a train horn blare or you can listen right to the train. Oh, you know what I mean. And so it's like kind of like the voice of Spirit or God, you know. It's like you can hear it or you can listen to it.
Speaker 2:Oh, oh, so it does listen, for you mean, there's a response. Not always okay.
Speaker 1:It means there's an intention, because to hear it like that is something that my body is physically going to do, because I have functioning eardrums and I'm so grateful that I do and that I can hear and I don't. It's an involuntary sense that I have. So for me to hear the train like I don't really have a choice. I mean, if I know it's coming, I can plug my ears, you know. But it's like, for the most part, to hear something to me doesn't feel intentional. To hear something, to hear something and go, I'm going to listen to that, I'm going to take it. For me, that means to take in the essence of what I'm hearing, whether it's a sound or a sentence or whatever. Those feel different to me, sarah. It looks like those feel different to you too.
Speaker 3:Yes, I well, I'm thinking of like when you're in a conversation with someone, or perhaps even an argument, there's a difference between hearing someone and listening to someone. I would even flip those words I'm listening, but are you hearing me? Like? Do I feel understood? Like you? Know it's one thing, to be like yeah, I'm part of the conversation but, like, did you hear what I said?
Speaker 1:One of your friends. Today, sarah, came to my office because she's doing some work on a tour that we're a part of, and she did this thing a couple of times when me and my other colleague were talking. She would go heard, heard, heard.
Speaker 2:You know, I've seen people do that in the restaurant business, like if a chef is calling out an order. I have seen like on on TV, I've seen competitions and and that it's like heard, understood you know, that's the thing.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's really neat and I'm acknowledging that I've got it. Yeah, interesting guys.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's really neat perspective. Miss, are you going to draw cards?
Speaker 2:Sure, why not? Let's do it. If you're bored, just skip ahead. But I'm not at this point.
Speaker 3:Don't ever say that to people I don't know. Stick around y'all. We've got something great coming.
Speaker 2:All right, guys, these are for you as well. I'm going to pull this one.
Speaker 1:I'm kind of sad that mine were only for me and, like our listeners, didn't get to be involved. And then, like for Sarah, they got to be involved.
Speaker 3:They all get to be involved. Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2:Because you are they and I am you and we are many together and we are us. Here we go, my cards. First one grow your heart. And what kind of animal is that? That looks like a hyena, all right. So this is what this says I double oh man. Okay, I've always said my entire life that if anyone double dog dares me, I have to do it. Okay, I double dog, dare you to love? A little something about everyone.
Speaker 2:Oh man, yeah, even that guy, especially that guy, he and everyone else possesses at least one redeeming quality. Find it Wow.
Speaker 3:That's good.
Speaker 2:Be creative. Remember, in spirit you are all one. We just said that he is you and you are. Holy shit, that's like magic man, that is pure magic Right here.
Speaker 1:You heard it today on the Pat.
Speaker 2:News Podcast. You experienced it with us.
Speaker 1:Magic.
Speaker 2:This is how you grow your heart. And then it says what would your prayer be for that person you feel frosty toward? Dear God, help me pray today for a person I'm resenting. May they be happy, wow, wow. So that's grow your heart, okay. Number two is hand to heart. So there's some heart involved here, guys, which is quite interesting. I'm going to bring up what happened to me yesterday. All right, hand to heart. When you're hand ringing over a loved one, panicked about the state of the union, or desperately wishing someone else would, for fuck's sake, already change their horrible ways, do this, put your hand on your heart, take a deep breath and smile, be grateful to be here. Okay, I'm going to grow my heart.
Speaker 1:Then hand to my heart and then you're going to rip out your heart and hold it.
Speaker 2:Mend your part. Okay, you are not put on earth to be a saint. You are here instead to care about those who show up in your experience and your yoga teacher training, at the family reunion and your book club. Love them without reservation. The scope of your work is small but supremely necessary, wow.
Speaker 3:Okay, all right guys. Well, shit, well, we've got some work to do this week.
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Speaker 2:The number is 1-866-528-525. The devil's favorite number 5.
Speaker 1:I went to breakfast last week with a client and we went to this place over in East Nashville and you guys I'm sure have been there like a hundred times. It's Hart's Cafe, never. They serve a wonderful, wonderful breakfast and lunch. Anyway, I got there and my client and the other colleague were sitting at a picnic table outside. Mmm, mmm, do I need to say?
Speaker 2:Outside no, it's still 85 degrees here. Like, what are you doing outside, in all honesty? Like are you trying to sweat your balls off? Is that what you're?
Speaker 1:looking for Right. And so a couple of days later, the client and I talked on the phone and he was like, yeah, I was kind of a little bit in a just a little bit off in that discussion and I was like, oh, were you? And he's like, yeah, and I was like, why were you off? And he was able to share and I said, well, I was sitting there feeling like a 47 year old woman having the most heinous hot flash the whole entire meeting because, like we were sitting outside, my seat was in the sun and it was like 85 degrees and there was very little breeze or wind movement whatsoever, and I had decided, instead of getting something that I would normally get for breakfast, like avocado toast or something like that, I was like I'm going to choose something different and healthy and I'm going to get a glass of bubbly water and the fried Brussels sprouts for breakfast. Yeah, okay, that'll get you right there. This is a complete and beautiful formula for a midlife hot flash. And so there's, there's that.
Speaker 2:Also Irinal Baal syndrome. Broccoli in the morning. I mean like that's coming straight out when you add heat to it.
Speaker 3:It's coming straight out. When you get home. If you get home right, no, you won't get home and right.
Speaker 2:No, you're going to end up in a tiny East Nashville bathroom that fits only skinny people. Yes, and you know. Just trust that nobody will come in while your door is still open.
Speaker 1:Yeah, this happened to me.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Oh it did happen to you.
Speaker 1:Yes, this is my story.
Speaker 2:We just stereotyped and generalized and had lots of bias and we love everyone here, sorry, guys. Okay, I had a similar situation last week. I went to a worship event and and I had to stand the whole time, which is fine it actually was fine but I wore what I like to call my zippy. Everybody knows my zippy, that knows me. And it's like, it's like a little sports sporty cardigan thing with a zipper, with a hoodie.
Speaker 3:It's just like a real thin material.
Speaker 2:It's thin but there people, there was some worshiping happening in there and therefore not a lot of heated up.
Speaker 2:Not a lot of AC. You were there, sarah, and I could not stop sweating and reminded me of my mom when she came to my ward ceremony in college and it's like that day menopause started for her and by the end she was wearing this really nice like skirt, business suit, but by the end it looked like my mom had jumped in a swimming pool because her hair was complete, her entire head of hair was wet. That's how much she was sweating and I'm pretty sure that was happening to me, but I just kept acting like the Lord was working on me and I was doing some waving.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, you got it, oh my gosh, but I bet the Lord was working on you.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, working something out that fever, that fever. I was just trying not to buckle at the knees. The whole time, I kept reminding myself not to straighten my legs. You've got to bend those knees, only an. Enneagram six would worry about that.
Speaker 1:Lest you pass out, do not, do not hold your legs All over it.
Speaker 3:I didn't really think the Lord's working on me.
Speaker 2:So last last yesterday, last day, which would be yesterday the day before I started feeling kind of funny and then overnight I woke up with really bad chest pain, really bad stomach pain Don't Google those two things, especially if it's radiating to your back and I was like okay, something's not right here and I was like doubled over for a little bit and so, long story short, got into the doctor and things are better today, but it was.
Speaker 2:It was a little bit scary because, you know, the first thing I want to do is do an EKG to make sure you're not having heart attack, which my EKG was great, thank goodness, and I'm grateful for that. But it sparked something in me that has been happening over the last week and I just want to touch on this because it's important. I brought up podcasts Glen and Doyle's podcast, we Can Do Hard Things with Andrea Gibson a while back and how much it touched me and she had a cancer diagnosis. That are reoccurrence, actually, and anyway, she was doing another podcast an update, if you will with her partner on this we Can Do Hard Things just recently. The great news is her markers are so low right now that she doesn't actually have cancer, if you will.
Speaker 2:Obviously, that could change at any moment, but amazing, amazing update. It was a beautiful conversation with her and her partner and one of the things they said and this is where my gratitude comes from today, based on having such a scary health day yesterday is her partner said that they were out walking and they were walking past this 80 year old woman that had looked like she had been in the sun a lot, had really long gray hair and just looked like she had been in the sun, and that Andrea said when they walked past, wow, look at what that looks like to be 80. And she was just like in all of her beauty, and her partner was saying like.
Speaker 2:In that moment I realized like all Andrea wanted was to have a body and to still be here, you know, and it wasn't like she was just in all, like that was her perspective of people who are still living, and so, anyway, I was really touched by that and I think it this whole idea of I just want to have a body, like I'm like. You know, we go through so much and, let's be honest, like we're all kind of in this area right now where we're navigating new things, and I just want to say like, even despite that, like there is something incredibly magical about being having the human experience and the more I read and spend time with people who believe we do have multiple lives, I am just like I'm really touched that like, no matter what happens, put worst case scenario in front of us, like we still get the five senses and all of the experiences that we are having or getting to go through.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Such a good point.
Speaker 1:That's really neat, especially when we just talked about the difference between hearing and listening. You know, it's like that's really, that's really cool. That's really cool, and I'm so happy for Andrea Gosh. That's, that's pretty fantastic. Pretty fantastic.
Speaker 2:Can we talk about the party we're going to have on Friday, because I'm incredibly excited about it and I feel like we're a bunch of midlife women, but I want to show how cool we are.
Speaker 3:Well, we are midlife women.
Speaker 2:I know, but we're also super fucking cool.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we had the idea to do a themed party with a few friends, and the theme this time is dress like your dad, yeah. And so we have to bring an eight by 10 photo of our dad and arrive in our dad's apparel or attire whatever we imagine him to be like in our eyes.
Speaker 1:I want, obviously I want each of us, in what we're doing and what we're wearing, to be a bit of a surprise. I think that's part of the phone of the party and so I'm not going to reveal what I've done. And what I've done is just it's fine, it's not exceptional or anything. But yesterday I was working on my whole thing and I said to myself I was like well, I've spent $143 getting ready for this party.
Speaker 2:I know it's true. I'm impressed that I went to Goodwill and actually found some pieces, but I'm with you, there were some purchases that had to be made.
Speaker 3:Yeah, oh yeah. I bought all of my stuff brand new. I tried, we tried Goodwill, but it's worth it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I bought all of my stuff brand new. There's some stuff of my original stuff on my dad's. That will be a part of what I'm bringing.
Speaker 3:Oh cool.
Speaker 1:And it's one of those things where I thought, gosh, I'm really into this, like I'm invested into this, like I said at the beginning of this episode, how I am making changes that are really hard for me in my life to make room for just some financial strain, and I yet am still spending the amount that I would pay for a therapy session on this costume, and it's really important to me. And I had some tears last night. I had to kind of work through some stuff and what I realized was that I was really frustrated in preparation for this party because I don't have that I can find. I don't have pictures of me and my dad.
Speaker 2:Oh, it's supposed to be of us and our dad. No.
Speaker 1:No, it's supposed to be of our dad, and that's fine. It's an 8 by 10 of your dad. But as I was going through the very few pictures of my dad that I have, I realized I don't have any pictures of me and my dad.
Speaker 1:Wow, that's hard, I'm sorry, like, and that made me sad on so many levels, like it was really and I thought, well, you know, if this whole Wu Wei thing, effortless action thing, like healing, is just going to happen throughout my day, every day, and I'm going to feel it when I might least expect it, and stuff like that, Like this kind of hit me as one of those. I was like I didn't know I was going to deal with the sad and the sadness was was not and let me clarify, it was not that I don't have pictures of myself with my dad, because I don't I don't need that quote unquote but it was the realization that I didn't have a lot of time with my dad, yeah, yeah, totally, and I certainly didn't have a lot of documented time with my dad, you know, and it's like that. That just really I don't know. It's kind of a huge revelation for me.
Speaker 3:Yeah, now you get to become your dad. So, yeah, maybe that'll be like the full circle yin yang healing. Yeah, I love that You'll just spill over into him. Thank you, you just said, yin yang instead of yin, yang Sarah, I know because Kat says yang OK.
Speaker 2:Kat, I feel like you have gotten your money's worth with the therapy part already for what it's worth and what you spent.
Speaker 2:Hell, yeah. But this is what I wanted to talk about because I'm like last week we talked about our moms and we're both close with our mom. Sarah, you know, had a different experience and then we kind of flipped you and I had a more distant relationship, kat and I with our dads, and Sarah had a close relationship with her dad. But I do think that this process is so interesting because my dad and I butt heads all the time Like the deepest question my dad could ask me was so how much money are you making? Now? That's what he said to me one time and I was like oh wow, thank you. Is that my value? But I do think it's going to be interesting as we as I've been buying these pieces and things put together, who my dad is. Like I'm the same way. I'm feeling a little anger and resentment coming. I'm just like riding up.
Speaker 3:It is riding up on the backside and how interesting it's been. I mean, I've been here to see you try on some of the articles of clothing and you're like, oh my god, I look like my dad, or like she found like the perfect shoes and it's like these are like my dad's shoes, like it's weird putting my feet in his shoes.
Speaker 1:And I'm going to show you this in person. It's not going to be. It might be hilarious on the podcast In person. I think it's going to be really funny because there's a part of my outfit that if I position my body in a certain way, it creates like a pretty epic, like camel toe, and so you talk about things like like riding up. You know, it's like okay, if. I'm not careful like I'm going to be uncomfortable for a good part of this night.
Speaker 3:Well, we can wear cups because we're dads.
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh, I think it's kind of a good idea. I'm sure guys love wearing a cup, just smashing everything into a little plastic cup and then it's got a pinch around the sides and stuff.
Speaker 1:Oh man, that just sounds really uncomfortable.
Speaker 3:Sorry guys, I'm so glad to be a woman. Better than getting kicked in the junk though, right, yeah well.
Speaker 2:I just want to say, if you guys don't think we ever hold back, I'm holding back a story that relates to this that would not be appropriate. We're real grateful for it.
Speaker 3:Thank you.
Speaker 2:No, I just want to let everyone know I'm holding back right now, I do have a limit and I, I'm not, I'm, I'm.
Speaker 3:You're utilizing cats. One of cats oracles today Orphuses, orphuses, nope, nope, that's not what I said. No, it's not. There was something about holding back, right. Okay, okay, great, thank you.
Speaker 2:I have two more questions before we end the podcast. Did you know that it wasn't until 1988 that a woman was allowed to own a business in the United States of America?
Speaker 1:What? Yep Until 1988? You heard me correctly.
Speaker 2:What Yep? Before that, a man had to co-sign for any kind of loan, whole, including a business, a business loan.
Speaker 1:So for a loan not to own a business.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was the first time we were able to own a business alone, without a man's signature. That's a better way to say that Wow, if I'm wrong, prove me wrong. No, I'm not trying to. I don't want to prove you wrong. No, I'm saying that to our listeners.
Speaker 1:I learned that this week. Oh well, I'm going to give a preview of something that Professor Cat is going to talk about in episodes in the future. That's how I would like to end the podcast, because I'm still learning and I'm not educated enough to be Professor Cat in this yet, but a couple of notes that I took from. Would you believe it?
Speaker 1:I took another class, oh my gosh good for you and I took a couple of notes from that class and I just want to see how they sit with you now and then I want to be able to comment on them with more context in the future. The first one is this United States, one of the most violent, stressed and traumatized countries in the world.
Speaker 2:Completely agree. Ding, ding ding, isn't that sad.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it really is A note that I also took. Only Yemen has a higher mass shooting rate per capita than the United States. Wow, wow, that's insane. And then this last one is a little more might make you feel like you can be uplifted and not just really sad about how terrible our country, the state of our country, is. What hypnosis does is it allows the client to experience the trauma again without their body having to be hijacked by the trauma. Wow.
Speaker 2:So does that mean it's more just informational and less?
Speaker 1:emotional. Maybe it's the reason that psychedelic therapy and ketamine therapy and hypnosis and stuff like this. It's like if the consciousness or the subconsciousness can experience the trauma without it being attached to how the body experienced the trauma, then the brain, the psyche, can process it better. If your body and your brain have to experience the trauma over and over and over, it doesn't give your mind any room to or your body for that matter to process it. And I just thought that was really, really fascinating.
Speaker 2:I do too. I'm really interested in hypnotherapy. I would have to find the right person and really trust them. But because, speaking of our dads, I would love to go back and see how things really were. You know what I mean? Cause, like, all I have is memories, or what I think are memories that I've created, you know. But I'm curious, like I would like to see that again, and maybe we will, mm-hmm.
Speaker 3:Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
Speaker 2:Huh, mm-hmm, huh, mm-hmm, Put that in your pipe and smoke it. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
Speaker 3:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:Special thanks to our producer, sarah Reed, to find out more.
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