Ever wondered why you do the things you do? Join us on this unique journey as we explore human quirks and delve into the fascinating world of self-care. Get your laugh on as we try to locate our "ham bones" and bear witness to our candid discussions on self-care practices like stretching, daily reading, and mantra repetitions. It's an insightful journey towards personal growth, packed with loads of humor.
Just when you thought our journey couldn't get any more intriguing, we introduce the concept of setting intentions and how it plays a pivotal role in shaping our lives. Buckle up as we navigate societal pressures and the power dynamics involved when we let external influences make our decisions for us. We also share our heartfelt intentions for our trip to Colorado and express our deep condolences to those affected by the conflict in Israel and Gaza. A special mention goes to our tribute for Moose's mom's 81st birthday with a song that's sure to tug at your heartstrings.
As we stride down memory lane, we revisit our beloved childhood camp songs and fondly reminisce about the iconic song "Joy to the World" by Three Dog Night. We extend a hearty thank you to our producer, Sara Reid, for her tireless efforts. So, if you're up for heartfelt yet hilarious conversations on life and all its quirks, tune into our podcast and let the journey begin. You'll be entertained, enlightened, and maybe even a little bit surprised. Trust us; it's an adventure worth embarking on.
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Ever wondered why you do the things you do? Join us on this unique journey as we explore human quirks and delve into the fascinating world of self-care. Get your laugh on as we try to locate our "ham bones" and bear witness to our candid discussions on self-care practices like stretching, daily reading, and mantra repetitions. It's an insightful journey towards personal growth, packed with loads of humor.
Just when you thought our journey couldn't get any more intriguing, we introduce the concept of setting intentions and how it plays a pivotal role in shaping our lives. Buckle up as we navigate societal pressures and the power dynamics involved when we let external influences make our decisions for us. We also share our heartfelt intentions for our trip to Colorado and express our deep condolences to those affected by the conflict in Israel and Gaza. A special mention goes to our tribute for Moose's mom's 81st birthday with a song that's sure to tug at your heartstrings.
As we stride down memory lane, we revisit our beloved childhood camp songs and fondly reminisce about the iconic song "Joy to the World" by Three Dog Night. We extend a hearty thank you to our producer, Sara Reid, for her tireless efforts. So, if you're up for heartfelt yet hilarious conversations on life and all its quirks, tune into our podcast and let the journey begin. You'll be entertained, enlightened, and maybe even a little bit surprised. Trust us; it's an adventure worth embarking on.
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Welcome to the Cat and Moose Podcast. I'm Kat and I'm Moose.
Speaker 2:This is the True Life Podcast, where we explore the quirks of being human. Hey Kat, hey Moose, hey Sarah, hello, hello everyone on this fine day.
Speaker 3:Hi and welcome.
Speaker 1:You seem super chipper Moose oh.
Speaker 3:It's a lie.
Speaker 2:I spent about 24 hours doing a grad school project this weekend and I have about 24 more hours left. So I'm trying to be positive guys. I'm trying to be positive about life. That's awesome. How is that going? It's going. I mean, what are my options? I don't want to be negative. I got to believe things are going to work out.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 3:And they will and they are. How are you guys?
Speaker 1:Good, I had a rough couple of days physically, yeah, like I have just not felt extremely great at the front of this week and so, like when my body doesn't feel good, like I feel, like I kind of easily and like whomp whomp. So I was really glad that we were going to record this afternoon because it always like kind of brightens my spirits to be with you guys Me too.
Speaker 2:Good, what do these Chinese symbols on your chest Wow?
Speaker 1:Those are cool. Thank you, I think that they're very cool. It's amazing what you can find on the worldwide web when you just like Google stuff, and I am really, really narrowing down what I want my tattoo to be of. Yes, and I'm really convinced that these, it's these characters and it's just the concept of Wu Wei. You know the effortless action, the being in the flow, the river beneath the river. You know all the things that we love to talk about on the podcast.
Speaker 2:I love that.
Speaker 1:So I found myself a shirt that has these symbols on it, and I'm like I'm going to just see how it feels to have them this close to my body.
Speaker 2:Do you think there's anyone out there that, instead of the Chinese characters, just spelled out Wu Wei on as a tattoo? Like can you like research that and bring it back to us? 100%, that would be so funny if somebody just put Wu.
Speaker 1:Wei. Wu Wei, and especially if they just spelled it like it sounds Like W-O-O-O-O-W-A-Y kind of like. No way Wu Wei.
Speaker 2:Wu Wei Sarah. How are you on this fine?
Speaker 3:day. I'm good. I feel like I just hit. I've been noticing between the three to like five o'clock hours, my body just goes into like shut down. You need a nap mode and I haven't been doing the nap part. So I'm like man. I feel exhausted all of a sudden and I think I'm just getting older.
Speaker 2:Maybe. Yeah, that's what happens. I never, ever, took naps and like couldn't even take a nap if I tried. And lately, if I block out my eyes and my ears so I wear headphones and I also wear a sleep mask I can pretty much go to sleep within five minutes. Yeah, it's pretty great, which is great, because I never was able to do that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we all are kind of yawning. Yeah, I would say that that really depicts growth, doesn't it Miss, I suppose?
Speaker 2:I think so.
Speaker 3:I'm not sure.
Speaker 1:Your cup is half full or your cup is half empty. Oh it's age, oh it's growth.
Speaker 2:Is that a song that you just made up? I love it, Thank you. Oh it's age, oh it's growth.
Speaker 1:It's really. It's funny that you said that because, like kind of singing allowing oneself to sing is something that I read about today being an attribute of the earth element in Chinese Five Element Theory, and I have been kind of experimenting with some acupressure points.
Speaker 2:Oh, I bet you have. I have Does this feel good, and how about this?
Speaker 3:I mean how?
Speaker 2:can you say that and I'm not crack a joke, I wouldn't be myself.
Speaker 1:And I just am trying to get a full sentence out of my mouth.
Speaker 3:Hey, you know how it goes, especially in the first part of the podcast.
Speaker 1:Anyway, I've been holding some points on my leg, on my shin, on like the inside, inside of my shin. Actually, let's all do it together. So find, if you, if you're a willing, find your kneecap, knecap, ok, got it OK. And then go about a hands width from the inside edge of your kneecap and then take your pointer finger and go all the way to where you can feel that bone on the front of your shin. Uh-huh, oh, we're going down and just on the outside of it.
Speaker 2:Got it. I was always the kid. That could not be serious during things like this. I'm really trying, but I'm doing what you're saying, ok. So am I supposed to be on the outside or the inside of that bone?
Speaker 3:Am I supposed to have a divot on my knee, my leg?
Speaker 2:OK, so it's the inside. Ok, that's way easier to see it like that.
Speaker 3:Oh, that's not at all what I was doing. Ok, I do need to ask about the divot later. Got it OK, Holding OK.
Speaker 2:I'll push in there.
Speaker 1:I'm just curious like what you notice, if anything.
Speaker 2:It's a little tender, but I think it's because of the fascia. Ok, say more about that. I just have a lot of connect tissue under there that is traumatized, that needs released often. What do you feel, sarah? You're making eyes.
Speaker 3:I'm trying to decide. I think my hand bone you know like where you're. You know where you're, my hand bone you know where your big bone connects to your thigh bone, connects to your hip. There, yes, that's the hand bone. I think we're done.
Speaker 1:Let's see, we're below the knee. I think we're below the knee, sarah.
Speaker 3:Well, that's where I'm feeling it up, where my hand bone connects to my hip bone.
Speaker 1:Oh, you're feeling I see, I see, oh, ok, that is like it's. I mean, I'm telling you this stuff is absolutely magical. So this place is, it's a spleen point, it's a point on the spleen meridian, and, sorry, I get really excited about the stuff it's spleen point number eight and it's called Earth Pivot and I have no idea why I still have to like go and read about it or whatever. But what I found out that I thought was so interesting is that I've been holding this place on myself the past couple of days, just off and on, because it's really, really, really, really tender, yeah, like it hurts real, real bad for me to hold it, and I'm like, well, this must be important and this is the stuff that I'm studying, so, like, let's go look up some stuff about it.
Speaker 1:And I found out that this place is what's called the Sheik left point on the spleen meridian, sheik cleft, it's what it sounds like. It's X, I dash, c, l, e, f, t, ok, sheik left, sheik left, sheik left. And that's the point at which all of kind of the and I'm going to make this very elementary because it's what I need to understand things it's like we're all of the stagnant crap, like all of the energy. Within that particular energy flow. It accumulates there. It kind of all the stagnant energy and stagnant chi and maybe even chi that the body can't really do anything with anymore. It all accumulates in this place and if you hold this place or if you go to like an acupuncturist they might needle this place.
Speaker 1:It is said that that allows all of that stagnant stuff to move out. Yeah, and so I'm feeling like, wow, I think I have a really lot of stagnant energy at the Sheik left point of my spleen meridian, like what might that mean? And I started looking up spleen and stomach, their partners, their earth element energy meridians, and I found that when one has a balanced earth element which I do not right now they feel very sing songy. So there's a part of me that did create a song and I think it's neat that sing songiness is one of the things having to do with the place that I learned about.
Speaker 2:Okay, so do you? Are you suggesting sing songy is a positive thing, I would say so. You would, sarah, see, if somebody sings songy, I feel like they're not authentic. Like sing songy as in like I'm doing great, how are you?
Speaker 3:What if it's authentically?
Speaker 2:Well, I've yet to see that.
Speaker 1:So somebody proved to me call and give your hauler and also give me a sing song that is positive and authentic Was the sing song thing that you noticed that I did. Did that come across as is inauthentic and just trying to kind of cover things up? No, it didn't. Okay, okay, so there you are, I'm just. I'm just sing song.
Speaker 2:We're a prospective podcast, so I was just sharing that. Speaking of hand bones, look at how adorable what this guy is and how his legs are just like hanging open.
Speaker 4:Don't worry, it's a cat. It's a cat.
Speaker 2:Yeah, geez guys so cute.
Speaker 1:Where did you capture?
Speaker 2:that beauty. Sarah took it upstairs and sent me a photo, and I was like two little hand bones that need eating right there.
Speaker 1:And I call my dogs, my dog's legs. When she lays like that, chicken legs, cheek legs, I'm gonna take a bite. I'm gonna take a bite of them, chicken legs.
Speaker 2:I'm all eat your cheek legs. Okay, hold on. I had something related to all of that Chinese medicine stuff that you just talked. Oh, I texted you the other day and asked you what these points kind of were underneath the collarbone, because I find when I have anxiety that I press this a lot and it's really tender, and when I press it it does release something like I don't have as much stress. So can you tell everyone what this is below the collarbone?
Speaker 1:Yeah, so there's kind of a lot going on around the collarbone, specifically the stomach meridian, and that's kind of like along the nipple line, if you will. We've talked about the nipple line before. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2:So right down nipple line for the.
Speaker 1:And then, right on either side of the sternum, is the energy flow of the kidneys.
Speaker 1:And so both of those kind of go up to the collarbone and then, not terribly far from collarbone, there's gallbladder, there's some triple warmer, there's some small intestine stuff. So there's a lot going on around the collarbone and the fact that these stomach and kidney places are feeling really good. For you it might just be that kind of like what I was talking about with the accumulation point, like it might just be that these areas are carrying some stagnant energy that need to release. And that's really cool that you're like self kind of experimenting and saying like hey, does this help me in my body?
Speaker 2:Well, what's happening is I have this habit that I just realized last year, where when I have pain anywhere in my body I have, my nature is to not touch it, so like if I hurt my ankle, I've been alone when something like that's happened and I just can't even look towards the pain. So I like drag myself into. Like I fell in the yard, stepped in a hole at my old business when I had my office in Franklin and I slammed my knee so hard and I was convinced I literally broke my leg. That's how painful it was. But I just drug myself to the car and got in the car and I was just going to drive to the hospital. I have this story that goes in my head that I'm always alone when I go to the hospital. So I'm just used to like dragging myself and but anyway, that's not the point. That's a side story that we will talk about in therapy. The point is I'm trying to touch myself more, okay.
Speaker 3:Wow guys.
Speaker 2:How's that going? Well, it's going. I have a new practice that started today. I sit in this chair. A lot in grad school, a lot of reading, a lot of writing, all of it. So I now you'll see behind me I have a blanket laid down. Oh, there's a dog on it. I have a little shit. He wasn't supposed to lay on my blanket. Of course he is, but I have a really fuzzy blanket that didn't have dog hair on it until that just happened. That I lay on and I read or I listen to whatever it is that I'm doing school wise, and so my new thing is I'm doing this every day as of today. So get it, it's only happened once. But I'm stretching while I'm reading, so I'm trying to touch my body more in all of the places that Christians do.
Speaker 1:Okay, Well, that sounds like a really nice practice, like a nice little I've got little pinky there as you drink your water. That sounds like a really, really nice practice. And what's the latest thing that you read over there? Is it a thing for school or was it a thing about something?
Speaker 2:else. It's Thomas Moore's book Original Self. It's incredible. Actually, he's kind of a spiritual writer but it talks about how we've been indoctrinated to believe all these social ideas and how to reconnect with our souls. Just small, not heavy things, Just lightweight reading.
Speaker 1:It reminds me, moose, of one of the things that you know. Talking about practices, I haven't done this in a long time, and it dawned on me today that I might reconsider doing this as a practice, and so I'm kind of inspired by your practice and I want to celebrate that you've done it once, like. That's awesome, like, and I hope you get to do it again tomorrow, thank you. One of the things that I've kind of stopped doing that I want to start doing again is reminding myself of my mantras, and we came up with them a long time ago, but mine ended up being I'm smart, I know my shit, I am worthy, I'm desirable and I can trust myself.
Speaker 1:I love it. Have you been saying those lately? I haven't. Just today, I was like I need to get back in that mode because I think things are really I mean, they're just really busy right now with work, now that everybody's touring again and you know, I know COVID is still a thing, but it's not like in shutdown mode like it was for 2020 and 21. A lot of 2020.
Speaker 4:Right.
Speaker 1:And so it's just like really busy right now. So when I get stressed, I go back to my you know blueprint. I'm dumb, I'm fat, I'm stupid. I'm dumb and fat, I'm stupid. And it's like, okay, that's, there's not room for that here anymore, like we've done away with that. It's not. First of all, it's not true. Secondly, I don't need to keep saying it to myself. And so just today I was like I'm smart, I know my shit, I'm worthy, I'm desirable, I can trust myself, nice.
Speaker 3:Needs to be re-engraved. Yes, reinforce, reinforce you know.
Speaker 2:You know what else you might do if you find yourself kind of doing that self-talk. I write out my mantras, and I don't do it every day either. I wish I did, but something about writing it like I don't know for me helps make things stick in my brain. You know it's almost like you're. You know, like when your parents are like you need to go write this a hundred times and you will respect your brother or whatever it is.
Speaker 2:It's kind of like that we have to do that to ourselves every once in a while. Yes, yes.
Speaker 2:I've been doing this thing where I'm trying to figure out my second half of life Again, just really light things happening around here, and one of the things I have been thinking about is this idea of like filtering my life. I was inspired by this thing that I reposted on the Cat and Moose Instagram and it basically like showed you know how it happens throughout your life, where you start with like 20 friends that are your best friends and then you know as the years go on, and the last one that said 2023 was just a dog as far as your friends go, and so I think you know I'm in this place. I always feel like in fall and we always talk about the elements and stuff when it comes to the seasons, but this time is where I wanna like tuck in and start hibernating. Seems a little early for most people, but for me.
Speaker 2:I'm down, I wanna sit in my back porch and have a fire pit experience and not really do much more than that. But all that to say, I've been thinking about like filtering my life, and not necessarily people, but more like what you're saying, Kat, like more of a mantra thing of what are my values. And if the following things that are on my radar that I could spend my energy on don't filter through these following things, then I'm not actually gonna do them.
Speaker 2:Like I'm not gonna spend my time or energy on them, and so my top ones as of late and I'm still kind of finessing them, but my filters are things that feel authentic to me, things that involve inclusion of all people, things that bring love to me and that I feel like I could bring love to, and then kindness and celebration. Like those are the five things that I am trying to like filter things through and I'm realizing like so much that's in my life right now like does not include those things. Even I'm even thinking about from a client perspective, like if I do not receive these things or feel like I can give those things, then it's not really worth my time because it's just gonna suck the life out of me.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, and are you finding that it's easier or harder to find people who have similar hopes and expectations?
Speaker 2:I feel like the hard thing about this midlife thing is that we spend. You know, richard Roar says we spend all the time filling our cups and then we realize what we need to be spending time is the container right, which is us, and so is that how he says it, sarah, it's.
Speaker 3:I think it's the opposite. We spend the first half of our life kind of decorating what we look like and presenting oh, that's what it is.
Speaker 2:That makes more sense.
Speaker 3:And then the second half is filling up who we are like. What are we about? What do I want and what do I need and what do I like?
Speaker 2:And probably the easier way to say that is external to internal you know, like you start going like, okay, I got all of the things I wanted, or I got all the experience I wanted, but now I feel empty, or whatever that is. So, to answer your question, I find that people in our age group, and also for myself, I have certain people who are gonna stick around for the second act, and I have some people who their time has expired. And that's not because they're not good people, it's just because I don't wanna waste my energy defending my life. Yeah that's all.
Speaker 3:Again lightweight topics, just light stuff guys, exactly okay, and I know we bring this up about at least every other episode but the changing of the seasons, because we're ever changing in our seasons, both physically, internally, externally all of that and there's this video that has come across my feed a couple times and I save it every time and it's just perfectly timely for this it's. The video itself is cool for us to see, but it's more about the words that I want everyone to hear, and they are coming from an author and spoken word artist named Ali Michelle, and so here we go.
Speaker 4:My friend told me about this study they did a few years ago where they injected these beautiful redwood trees with a chemical similar to adrenaline, so that way the trees wouldn't go into hibernation and these mighty trees that normally lived for hundreds of years died within one year because they didn't have a season of wintering. And I think about us humans, the way we expect ourselves to be in constant spring, always blooming, always producing, always distracted and not making time for those moments with the people we love or those moments with nature. Distraction is the death of art, but boredom is the birthplace of it.
Speaker 2:That's really cool.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, what do you guys think about that?
Speaker 2:I mean, I think that's true. I think that if we don't, I used to just go balls to the wall with my whole life and had no idea that seasons were there for a reason, and so, yeah, I think we have to pay attention. It's like being in the river pay attention to what nature is telling us. And trying to do the same thing we mimic it.
Speaker 1:I mean truly yeah, and really it's so cool because it's like we have a model Exactly Like right in front of us. That's it, it's all around us. It's like, okay, what is happening right now?
Speaker 1:It's like, oh, things that have been really prosperous and pretty and bright are releasing things almost like a harvest, and letting go of stagnant energy yeah shedding and all of a sudden, are gonna prepare to tuck in and be in winter so that we can like what the artist you shared, sarah, says we can have those moments where we're in spring and everything's like. You know, just following what's happening around us seems like such a good idea. We are really dense beings sometimes.
Speaker 2:Well, I think we're just caught up in the human experience and forgetting everything that's happening. Like you said, as a model, like there it is. This is all we have to do. We just have to pay attention, right? Okay, so we are all going to Colorado and I'm really excited about that in a few days and I need you guys to hold me accountable I hate that phrase, by the way, because I do this thing whenever I travel, but especially Colorado, pacific Northwest and anywhere that's beautiful. I have this issue that psychology calls the recency effect, and it's many people have it, and basically it's when you are on vacation. You constantly say like I'm moving here, I'm totally moving here. I'm like, oh my God, how I feel right now is the best way I've ever felt. I'm totally moving here.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we do that as soon as we get in the car.
Speaker 2:I know, like it's like immediate, you know, and even like small towns will go through, I'll be like, oh yeah, I could totally. Where am I, it doesn't even matter where I am, it's how I feel that I want that again, you know. And so I wanted to talk about that and see if you guys run into that. But also wanted to talk about, you know, to go a step further. I think we have this nature as humans when, where we say, when blank happens, then I'll be happy, and that's kind of an example of it, of like, well, you know, if I could just get this job, or if I could lose this weight, or if I could get out of this small town or whatever, it is that you want to be different.
Speaker 2:And I think the problem is is we stop there. And I think what we need to be saying is like what is that? What is it about that thing that wasn't gonna give you? Okay? So it's like, if you play those things out, you're like, okay, so say that it's. You know, when I lose weight, then I will live my life differently, I'll get a different job or whatever, I'll get a new boyfriend, whatever the thing is. So you know, okay, was it confidence I'm looking for and why do I need that? And I find that almost all of these things that are like when this happens, then this will happen. It's often about perception from the outside.
Speaker 1:Of course it is. It's the ego.
Speaker 2:I know it's the ego saying this isn't enough. And we talk all the time about like living in the moment and staying in the moment and all of that, and I am. It's like I just hit me the other day, like all these things that I want to come true, like why? What is it that I want so badly? To be seen as fill in the blank usually and, granted, there are dreams I just want to accomplish as well but I think we complicate things and we put our worth in other people's hands instead of going okay, right now I can do all of these things, I'm. You know. It's just excuse after excuse that I'm not.
Speaker 1:Well and it reminds me of when we were talking about, what was it that we talked about just last week, or maybe the week before? Is we give away our power? You talked about this and it's like I feel like this is really similar. You know, it's like if I'm gonna do things based on what outside influences are going to think or feel about me or whatever, that is essentially me giving away my power, right it is.
Speaker 2:And you don't give okay, like let's just, let's just everyone picture someone that we want to think greatly of us. Like you don't have to say who it is, but just picture that person. Like I mean, you don't really give a shit what they think. Do you know what I mean? Like, ultimately, we are gonna do what we want. That is how we are as humans. We may say we wanna be something, but we're gonna do what we want. That's how we are. And so, ultimately, when we make decisions, we're not thinking about that person, but something about our worth is tied up in how that person feels about us. And what is that? I think we're just tangled up in codependence and blue, which is a.
Speaker 2:Bob Dylan song.
Speaker 1:It sounds so lovely to be there. So I'm wondering, since we're going out to Colorado together and we're going to be experiencing this beautiful change of seasons in a very, very beautiful setting, like are we going to like set some intentions?
Speaker 2:I think we should Do. We want to create one right now. I'll write them down. I think that would be so cool. Okay, sarah is like shitting her pants right now because she hates doing things on the spot.
Speaker 1:Can I go third, her pants have been pooped and she also could just set a boundary and say no, I don't want to. How many times has she said to us on the podcast yeah, I'm not comfortably answering that.
Speaker 2:Well, we can let you go last, Sarah. Okay, Intention Kat, can you lead us and our listeners are going to create their own intention for the next week and we're all going to hold on to this intention for a week and send each other great consciousness and energy to make all of these things come true. But how would you lead us into setting an intention? Oh?
Speaker 1:okay, I can try to do that. So I would do like a body scan type thing, like I would close my eyes and I would take a few breaths and I would just imagine being in that place. That feels so good to be connected with nature, to feel whatever you feel from the outside environment the warmth of the sun, the cool of the air, the wet of the rain, whatever it is with nature that you want to connect with, and just be with that for a few breaths and let that just kind of come in and let go. And then I would say let's begin to think of what would make your body feel really, really wonderful in this environment. And for me I can start by saying I really want to deeply breathe in the mountain air. Me too, I just want to really allow that breath to come into my lungs, to be circulated by my heart and my blood and all the magical stuff that our body does, and I just want to take in the support and the energy from being able to deeply breathe in the mountain air.
Speaker 2:So that's your intention.
Speaker 1:That is one yes.
Speaker 2:I love it. Okay, the one I feel bubbling up is that I will create space while we are in Colorado. To the word is believe, like to just believe that things are possible. I'm writing these down so that we can go back to them. Love it.
Speaker 3:Okay, I was thinking back to a conversation I have with Julie, who is the maybe owner of this property that we're going to, and she was telling me about what I was giving an example of like. Well, the only reason we wouldn't be able to go is if something came through with a job or something for me. That is a good picture of where my mind's been lately and just kind of where I've been stuck, and she reminded me that. Well, she said this is a space to be inspired. It's a good place to get inspiration, and so I would like to look for inspiration while I'm there, I love that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's great Okay.
Speaker 2:We've got. I want to breathe in the mountain air, I want to create space so I can believe that things are possible, and I want to look for inspiration.
Speaker 3:Yeah, Great Love it guys. That's good and.
Speaker 1:I think, our friends that we're going with, I think we need to ask them to do the same thing. Yes, and I love that you brought in our listeners as well. Listeners, if you would like to set an intention for this next, even this next season of life, because we're going to be, we're not leaving for about a week I mean, you guys are leaving a little bit sooner than I'm leaving but so, like, kind of for the next, the next couple of weeks, like as we really move into embracing the fall, like what is, what are your intentions? And if you would be so kind as to share them with us on our phone number or on our email.
Speaker 1:That would be amazing. Yep 1866.
Speaker 2:KATM005.
Speaker 1:Hello at katamusepodcastcom. Yes.
Speaker 2:So we don't want to go through this episode without mentioning what is going on between Israel and Gaza at this point and as we're recording, you know there's just a lot going on that feels scary and difficult, and I know there's a lot of opinions out there as well, and you know I want to first say we clearly condemn what Hamas has done to Israel, but in general, we're just not okay with innocent people, including Palestinians, dying, and so you know this is a difficult thing to even talk about at this point, but I think we just want to say our hearts are with people who are hurting right now, people who have lost, you know, family members, and we're just sending love to all the innocent people that are being hurt right now.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Very, very beautifully said, moose, and I don't know about you guys, but I have started to do. I really want to understand this war Like. I want to understand like why has something gotten so intense that like there are lots of people who want to kill lots of people? It's like what in the world? And it seems like and this is really no surprise it seems like it is people not being on the same page about territory and about religion and about values and things like that, and it's just yeah, I know this world is a scary, scary place.
Speaker 2:The only thing I know to do is to go outside and this is not me avoiding, but it's what I need for my own mental health to go outside and like stare at a piece of grass and watch like an aunt climb up a piece of grass and just like take my perspective really close and then send my energy and love and you know, I just I don't know what to do. That's the hardest thing is to just like be present for it, but also, you know, I don't know what to do.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, it seems like it is something so horrific, and I had similar thoughts before we started the podcast today. I thought what is it that I'm really? That is so much of a struggle for me in this topic, and it's because I don't know what to do.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's like I feel like I need to do a thing, I need to fix a thing, and, to your point, it's like no, I just need to be present because, like my, my intentions and my prayers, I don't, I don't know what else to do, like and and I can be completely appalled by it and I can, you know, make statements about it and things like that. But it's like I really just want. It's like I want to send any of of my available reserve energy to the people that are going through this terrible, terrible experience that they're having.
Speaker 2:And you know, I think it's very American of us to want to do something and yet, obviously, in human, let me say that, and also human of us, but there is something about sending love and energy towards someone. I just believe that there is, because I think we're all connected.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and there's a reason that in some spiritual practices that there are people who recite the same prayers at the same time every day. You know like there is a reason that those practices are in place, because I think over the course of time humans have realized there is power in that, there is power in prayer, there is power in meditation and reflection, all of those kind of things. And so thank you for that reminder, moose.
Speaker 2:Thanks. So I was going to tell you that today, the day we're recording, is my mom's birthday and she would have been 81 today Wow, the famous Bonnie Clyde and so I thought it would be fun to share one of her favorite songs as we end this episode. Yeah, that's awesome. Cheers, bonnie. I think what's funny is what the song is. But my mom, anytime she would get excited. She would yell Jeremiah was a bullfrog Dunnut was a good friend of mine, dunnut.
Speaker 2:So here we go. Happy birthday, Bonnie Clyde. I know that you're celebrating somewhere.
Speaker 1:Jeremiah was a bullfrog Dunnut Was a good friend of mine.
Speaker 2:Dunnut Never understood a single word, he said.
Speaker 4:But I helped him a drink of the wine and he always had somebody find a wine and sent joy to the world.
Speaker 2:All the boys and girls. Now, joy to the fishes and the deep blue sea. Joy to you and me.
Speaker 1:I had no idea that Three Dog Night was the artist behind that song. I did neither until I pulled that out. I just remember it being a childhood camp song. Oh really.
Speaker 2:Yeah, apparently it was at the top of the charts for six weeks in 1971.
Speaker 1:Well, you're welcome Special thanks to our producer, Sarah Reed.
Speaker 2:To find out more, go to Kat and Moose Podcastcom. Kat and Moose is a BP production.