Ever pondered what it would be like to see Michelle Obama in the presidential office? We've been exploring that enticing prospect while sharing our quirky adventures in weight loss and fitness. This episode talks about indulgence in the simple joys of life, be it a distinctive love for McDonald's Coca-Cola or the nostalgia of Christmas songs, we've got you covered.
Oh, and let's not forget, we have a fascinating chat on mental health - everything from the trials of weaning off antidepressants to the importance of setting boundaries. We share our personal experiences and offer some comfort in knowing that you are not alone. We also talk about the importance of the journey of life, focusing on acceptance, balance, and the ever-moving dance of emotions that is a part of the human experience.
As we wind up, we leave you with a nugget of wisdom - when life gets tough, hold on and keep faith. There are always simple pleasures and vintage finds to lift your spirit. We also encourage you to appreciate the music that touches your soul, the Christmas classics that bring back memories, and to hold on to those precious, nostalgic items that bring you joy. So, join the Kat and Moose Podcast, as we navigate life and its quirks with a dose of humor and heartwarming stories.
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Ever pondered what it would be like to see Michelle Obama in the presidential office? We've been exploring that enticing prospect while sharing our quirky adventures in weight loss and fitness. This episode talks about indulgence in the simple joys of life, be it a distinctive love for McDonald's Coca-Cola or the nostalgia of Christmas songs, we've got you covered.
Oh, and let's not forget, we have a fascinating chat on mental health - everything from the trials of weaning off antidepressants to the importance of setting boundaries. We share our personal experiences and offer some comfort in knowing that you are not alone. We also talk about the importance of the journey of life, focusing on acceptance, balance, and the ever-moving dance of emotions that is a part of the human experience.
As we wind up, we leave you with a nugget of wisdom - when life gets tough, hold on and keep faith. There are always simple pleasures and vintage finds to lift your spirit. We also encourage you to appreciate the music that touches your soul, the Christmas classics that bring back memories, and to hold on to those precious, nostalgic items that bring you joy. So, join the Kat and Moose Podcast, as we navigate life and its quirks with a dose of humor and heartwarming stories.
Visit us on the Interwebs! Follow us on Instagram and Facebook! Support the show!
Welcome to the Cat and Moose podcast. I'm Kat and I'm Moose.
Speaker 2:This is a true life podcast where we explore the quirks of being human. Okay, we had some technical difficulties and here we are. We have risen above Guess what?
Speaker 3:Mercury's got a retrograde again.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, I think it's supposed to go into retrograde any day now and I know it's supposed to be there until, I think, january 14th.
Speaker 3:I think they have us on like the early plan, because we talk about it so much. Who is that?
Speaker 1:So we know before you guys do. That's a good way to put it, sarah. They just have us on the early plan, they have us on the VIP plug.
Speaker 3:We're like we got grandfathered in from something.
Speaker 1:We got grandfathered in to mercury retrograde, so we're just in it all the time Exactly.
Speaker 3:They don't know when to start and stop us, so they just keep it going. Are you guys both?
Speaker 1:losing weight.
Speaker 2:Do we look like it? You do you do, your faces are thinner, that's cool to hear it's my neck thinner because I measured it. Check my neck.
Speaker 1:Oh wow, oh yes, definitely the circumference has lessened.
Speaker 3:How about when I do this? Yeah, it looks really good. Go up from the side.
Speaker 2:Hey, if you're not a patron, you need to become one right now, because Sarah, just gave you her double chin.
Speaker 2:And I don't have a neck, okay so the reason I bring this up is we have a mutual friend and she has been working out with Sarah and I and we were doing all these measurements at the beginning to be like, okay, let's actually not weigh ourselves but just measure by inches later on. But my friend keeps saying that she really wants to lose weight in her trunk which is the funniest word and her neck oh, okay, and so every time we see her we're like nice neck, like we just keep bringing up her neck, necks, look nice yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:So, thank you. We have been working out for just over two weeks now, which feels like two months. It does feel like two months and so I'm not sure that there's much results after two weeks, but I feel it in my body, I feel stronger, I feel more energetic. There's been a routine change of having to get up and meet each other at the gym at 6.30 every morning, not every morning. We do two days on and one day off, and two days on and one day off.
Speaker 2:Which, by the way, means five days on. Yeah, it's pretty great.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah, I'm so impressed with you guys and can I ask like, or would it be a security problem? Probably because we're so famous, where are you?
Speaker 2:guys.
Speaker 1:Where are you guys working?
Speaker 2:out. Oh, I will do a sponsorship right here for where we're working out. So I've always been such a diva with where I've worked out, like the YMCA's here in Middle Tennessee are like pretty posh places to go and you know, say that you're a middle income type gal. It's a good $60, $75 a month. But no, I have become. I call it the purple gym because I could never remember the name, but everyone knows what I'm talking about. What is it called? Planet Fitness? Yes, planet Fitness.
Speaker 3:They own New Year's Eve in New York City. Oh they do.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's right they do. Anyway, I'm a Planet Fitness fan. I thought I was too big of a snob, I don't know why, but this is like the best deal in America. It's crazy. And this is a Planet Fitness podcast. So yeah, welcome to our new sponsor and it's like 15 bucks and you get to lay it after you work out. They have these Hydra massages. Don't worry, like it's just like underneath this thing and it literally massages your entire body for 10 minutes.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's amazing.
Speaker 2:And then, if you like to get a tan, apparently you can go get a stand up tanning bed, I mean if you really do take advantage of all their services. It's a good deal.
Speaker 3:Yep and the gym is great.
Speaker 1:So all that's for free, other than your membership fee.
Speaker 3:Yes, it's included in your monthly fee. Wow, that's fantastic.
Speaker 2:Hey guys, for real, text me if you want to become a member, because I'm talking to you listeners.
Speaker 3:True, we get a free month, you get a free month, I get a free month, you get a free month.
Speaker 2:We're just like Oprah passing out cars Everybody gets a free month.
Speaker 1:Hey, that's awesome, you know, oprah, and giving out free cars made me think. Someone said to me this past week. They said I am really, really worried about our country's state of affairs, like politically. And I was like, yeah, we're coming up on an election year and, like it, just all signs are pointing in many, many directions, but there are candidates, potential candidates, that some of us are a fan of and some of us are not. We'll just stop it there. And this person said to me do you know what would solve everything? What did they say If Michelle Obama ran for office?
Speaker 2:I mean serious, oh my gosh, the whole world would vote for her and, honestly, all we need is a majority, so I'm down for that as well, like you know what I mean, even if they don't, you're going to get some people you wouldn't have gotten with Biden. Let's be honest, right.
Speaker 3:Right. Has anyone asked her if she has any interest?
Speaker 1:Well, I said yesterday that if I could call her and persuade her, I would.
Speaker 2:So I don't know if anyone is, so we just need her cell phone number.
Speaker 1:We just need her cell phone number. So if you guys know how to get in touch with Michelle Obama, I would like for her to know that I will be her number one patron. And by number one patron I don't mean financially, because I don't really have any money, but I will promote and support your campaign like it is my life's mission.
Speaker 2:What if she asked you to be her campaign manager? Would you do it?
Speaker 1:I would be the. I would be like the sous chef.
Speaker 2:Okay, I'll be her manager.
Speaker 1:I'll be her campaign manager, okay and I'm not saying I don't want to be, I just don't know how, I don't know what all the job entails.
Speaker 2:We're just in a fantasy world.
Speaker 1:Oh, in a fantasy world. I'm definitely her campaign manager, for sure, yeah.
Speaker 2:Well, great, then. I mean, you do great, okay, so now am I working for you, oh cool.
Speaker 1:We don't ever work for one another.
Speaker 3:No, never With. We work with one another, yeah.
Speaker 2:We've tried that. Well, we didn't try that. We knew better to try that. Okay, so I'm with you. Michelle Obama 2024. Can we get her to run? I gotta tell ya I'm gonna get a lot of flack for this, but just go with me and in the heart of coming together, if you will somebody, please sing me a song, come together right now. Thank you Over me so good Damn.
Speaker 1:It says if Sarah has been a drummer in her life.
Speaker 2:Look behind her, by the way. Okay, wait, I'm jumping around. This is an ADHD podcast. Welcome. Welcome to our podcast. What were we just talking about? It was important. Oh, michelle Obama. Okay, I like this. Okay, the one thing I was gonna say. That's gonna upset some people because she's a Democrat, but I am not mad about Liz Cheney saying, if Donald Trump becomes the candidate, that she may run in the third party. Have you heard about this?
Speaker 1:I have not heard about this so.
Speaker 2:Liz Cheney, republican but also one of the few Republicans that were willing to stand up against Trump and say this is crazy. Over here. By the way, we are a political podcast as well. Apparently, apparently, but anyway. Liz Cheney has said whatever it takes, if he becomes the candidate I may run and she may be, from the other end, someone that could sway people into that third party. I know there's also opinions about that, because if you have a third party, does that make Trump win even more? I have no clue Right.
Speaker 1:However.
Speaker 2:Michelle Obama, you have found the key candidate here because Oprah, they asked her, she said she would consider it at one point and then she said no, but we need somebody to come in here and blow this joint open.
Speaker 1:Well, and the thing is we don't need just somebody like it's an absolute train wreck and it has been for the past, what eight years? And so it's like okay, we gotta, we gotta, we got. We need help and and I think it will take a very special, very skilled, very, very resilient individual to come in and do a good job. To come in and even do a bad job would require that, but like true, I'll take a bad job at this point.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean. Bad feels like good.
Speaker 1:Bad feels like a good job, but we like you as a person, yeah exactly.
Speaker 2:Okay. I want to be careful because I'm not someone who supports ageism, so I'm not someone. I do think we need some sort of term limits in Congress and Senate. I also think that we need to consider that in presidential areas. But I'm not saying that's why I wouldn't vote for Biden. I probably would. I'm just going to put that out there. Here's something else we need to consider, and I've totally forgotten what that is.
Speaker 1:You are on.
Speaker 2:You're on a roll today, moose, I really am.
Speaker 1:Oh, hey, moose.
Speaker 2:Hey Kat, Hi Sarah, hey Sarah was like, didn't we already start? Oh, the other thing I wanted to say is, in this latest Republican debate, what's his name? Ramiswamy. I mean, that guy is worse than Trump, I think. I mean that guy I am unafraid to say like he is a total asshole. Are you talking about Santos? No, Ramiswamy, he's one of the Republican, I'm not joking. Do you want me to show it to you?
Speaker 3:I'm pulling it up. I'm pulling it up.
Speaker 2:He is an asshole. He said to Chris Christie why don't you pack up and eat another meal or something like that? Like totally fat shamed him.
Speaker 1:Who is this person? Vivek Ramiswamy. I'm sorry, I don't know this person.
Speaker 2:I mean, I'm here to educate you guys. I know a lot of people may not be watching these things, but I am curious about who could potentially beat Trump. And good luck.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah. Well, I brought up this topic. That wasn't even meant to be a topic for the podcast, I hope that we trend in all the political podcasts. This week, I think the most trendy thing we need, though, is the ADHD podcast, I mean maybe that's how we should just market ourselves, because that's kind of what happens anyway.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it really is.
Speaker 3:I hope people follow. I mean they follow the ADHD is what I mean.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, well, that's because of you, sarah, like you just weave it all together so beautifully. I'm so, so grateful, thank you. So yesterday I it was lunchtime and I ate my lunch, and normally I eat my lunch and then I feed my dog and I walk my dog. That's like a pretty normal. Is that a euphemism or no? It is is the truth. That's all I'm going to say. It's a true euphemism.
Speaker 2:I don't even know what walk my dog would mean, but it's kind of like it's cozy.
Speaker 1:So yesterday I had my lunch completely skipped feeding my dog and walked my dog. And so I get back after the walk and I'm like why the hell is Bell just fussing at me and I had forgotten to feed my own animal, and what is wrong? What is wrong?
Speaker 2:Honestly, that happens three to four times a week here, so I have no judgment. We're an animal cruelty podcast.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:I mean, like I'm with you, sarah McLaughlin, here, sarah In the arms.
Speaker 1:There's a golden retriever far away from here.
Speaker 3:Support them today.
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh. But here's the way I look at it. If you forget to feed them, they're going to let you know. It's not like they're just going to sit there, so they'll eventually tell you. And then you're like oh, and then I always give them a little extra because of the guilt. So it all works out.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I just wanted to say that I have now invited myself to become a part of the ADHD community because I think something's happening. It's like I turned 48 and like shit is just like. It's amazing. The stuff I remember is awesome, like my job stuff, like I remember it really well.
Speaker 2:Oh, you just have to say that. I have to say that, yeah, I do I have to say. Yes, everybody's falling apart. We have passed our peak. I wish I knew that peak was coming, because I really want to take a more advantage of it.
Speaker 3:That's fair.
Speaker 1:It's like my mom is always telling me she's like, do it while you can, do it, while you're young, do it, and I'm like I might have lost that opportunity and it's just like that, right? Yeah, it's like I said the other day. I said it's like I turned 48 and every little thing in my body has taken its turn to go. Hey, guess what? Not working.
Speaker 2:I know and you know what it is falling apart. But I will say this I'm enjoying it more. I think yes, and maybe it's because you know that light at the end of the tunnel is getting brighter. Maybe that creates emergency, I don't know, but I feel like I'm more in the present and I'm less neurotic than I used to be, which is saying a lot because I'm still very neurotic.
Speaker 2:Okay, Speaking of turning ages, so I recently turned 45 this in the past quarter, we'll say as of this recording, and I made an announcement the other day to my family and it was the following I am 45 and I'm starting to see signs of becoming an adult. Oh yeah, and I haven't seen these signs prior to and it, and like I'm absolutely being serious, like I'm starting to ask for help, which is very painful to do. I'm facing reality instead of running from it, which I'm excellent at, I'm like Every once in a while, I'm cleaning my house.
Speaker 1:That's huge, it's big.
Speaker 2:And I'm waking up and moving my body now, which, you know, I can't ever do just one thing at a time. So I also thought, wow, I'm starting to feel better now that I'm getting up early and moving my body, so I think I'll also wean myself off of antidepressants again, remember how that ran last time. Well, I'm upset too. Well, it's going. Similarly, is it.
Speaker 1:So how long have you been weaning, oh?
Speaker 2:I'm not off. I've taken a slow turn from 20 down to 5. Milligrams or pills Milligrams, milligrams, milligrams, milligrams.
Speaker 3:Milligrams, milligrams, milligrams, milligrams, milligrams, milligrams, milligrams, milligrams, milligrams, milligrams.
Speaker 2:Milligrams, milligrams, milligrams. I'm just popping on by the pill.
Speaker 1:Well, I mean, if you've been taking 20 a day and now you're only taking five, 20 milligrams. Yeah so yeah.
Speaker 2:I'm not quite off yet, but you know.
Speaker 1:OK, here's a question for you. In beginning or being in the middle of the weaning process what is your favorite drink to take your medicine with? Like? If you could choose any drink in all of the globe.
Speaker 2:Wait to take my medicine with yeah to take your 20 pills with. I mean, I just do water usually.
Speaker 1:Water, and that's what you like prefer, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because Sarah has a rule that she won't take any pills with alcohol, which I think is great.
Speaker 1:That's a really fantastic good boundary, Sarah.
Speaker 3:Move away. Wait a minute. I mean you went like that's a weird rule, but there are people that die from this on the regular. And listen, here I'm not making fun of anything.
Speaker 2:I guess I realized, as I said it, that that should probably be a rule.
Speaker 3:OK, yes, and even if wine is the next sip in my mouth after I've taken the oil I guess that's what I mean With water Is say that she's forgotten to take her medicine throughout in the morning by the time she gets to wine.
Speaker 2:if she's got wine in her hand, she won't just go. Well, here's some liquid, that's correct, OK.
Speaker 3:Or just like Tylenol, tylenol and wine it just. I realize it doesn't make sense because I'm also still just drinking wine, but I don't want to take the actual medicine with the actual alcohol. We've spent way too much time on this.
Speaker 2:What is your favorite beverage to take your 20 pills with?
Speaker 1:Well, I was trying, I was trying to do that thing that our friend, are we an elder care podcast? We are, we are, yeah, I was, in case, our friend Bobby is still listening. I was trying to create a segue without saying speaking of, and so what I wanted you to say was something like I love ocean water from Sonic and, for Sarah to go, I like to take my pills only with straight moonshine or whatever it is.
Speaker 3:And then I was going to go.
Speaker 1:And where I was going was have you noticed that there is no better Coke or Diet Coke than at McDonald's?
Speaker 2:I would agree. I don't like Diet Coke, but I think the McDonald's Coke is the absolute best Coca-Cola on the market.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think so too. I went there for breakfast the other morning and I was like I can't not have the biggest, coldest Diet Coke with that. It's something about the carbonation it is, and so I learned why their drinks are different. Tell us, ok. So restaurants? So Coca-Cola is like hey man, here's our syrup. Y'all take it restaurants, food places, whatever and they give them to restaurants in what's called bladders or plastic bags. So there's a bladder full of Diet Coke syrup. The magical formula blah, blah, blah. Well, they do the same thing for McDonald's, but they deliver them to McDonald's in steel canisters.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, Didn't we talk about this at one point?
Speaker 1:I don't know, I don't know if we did or not, but I just learned about it for the first time, so I'd like to finish talking about it.
Speaker 2:No, I'm just trying to OK, wow, wow.
Speaker 1:I was having a deja vu moment.
Speaker 2:Maybe it was completely deja vu, but are you saying McDonald's is the only one with the steel canisters?
Speaker 1:Yes, I don't know, it's just what I read on the internet.
Speaker 2:The internet is always right. Unless you have to have a password to log in, then those are wrong.
Speaker 1:Yeah, then those are wrong. But yes, they deliver the syrup in steel containers, they keep them cold and they also chill the pipes that the syrup goes through and they also account for in their syrup to water ratio they account for a full cup of ice as well. So it's like they know your water, your drink's going to get you know what am I saying? Watered down, and I've never noticed this. But it's like if I get a diet Coke at a gas station, by the time I've driven two hours it tastes terrible because it's all watered down, but if I get a Diet Coke at McDonald's, it tastes good forever and ever and ever. And I just thought that was so neat, like the things that go on in the world, that we have to repeat what we know about them.
Speaker 2:Well, I completely agree and I love a McDonald's Coca-Cola. Highly recommend nobody drink it. Drink what cat drinks? The diet kind. This right here by the way is a Coke Zero sugar cherry, by the way, and I just have been on a Coke Zero kick. You're not supposed to drink it because you're going to die from it as well, but it's so tasty.
Speaker 1:I bet that's so good, do you like?
Speaker 2:Coke.
Speaker 1:Zero, I don't.
Speaker 2:It tastes the most like Coke. I feel like, but you don't feel like that.
Speaker 1:Well, I do think it tastes a lot like Coke, but I just really, I really prefer-.
Speaker 3:She was raised on diet coke. I was raised on tab and diet coke. She was weird.
Speaker 1:Sarah, you have had something to say about this topic the whole time I've been talking and I would like to hear what you have to say about this.
Speaker 3:How do you know that?
Speaker 2:She's a mind reader Mind reader.
Speaker 3:You're a heartbreaker dream maker. You come, take a look at the map. You're a heartbreaker dream maker. Listen, I was Okay, let me just start over here, please. I was taking a drive and lately in the car, as I drive. Well, the dogs are usually with me and I'll run into whatever establishment I'm going into and I'll leave the dogs in the car. The car is running and SiriusXM has a holiday classics channel right now, which I will bump up a little while the dogs are waiting in the car, because my dogs tend to wait in the front seats of the car. It's hilarious. Anyway, I was listening to that on my way home and this song came on. Do you know this one?
Speaker 2:Here we come for what's sailing on the west side. Here we come, our wanderings are far too busy.
Speaker 3:Love and joy come to you and to you. You're also too Wassel. What the hell is a wassel? Anybody know? I have no idea. Okay, so this whole song here we come, a wassling. And it's not spelled like wassel W-A-S-S-A-I-L-I-N-G. Wassling. So the lyrics are here we come, a wassling among the leaves so green. Here we come a wandering, so fair to be seen. Love and joy come to you and to you. You're wassel too, and God bless you and send you a happy new year. And God send you a happy new year. Our wassel cup is made of the rosemary tree, and so is your beer of the best barley.
Speaker 2:I was hoping you would say barley guys, what is?
Speaker 3:what is a wassel is a beverage. Oh, it's a beverage made from hot mold cider, ale or wine and spices.
Speaker 2:It sounded like you said hot mold cider, it is hot mold Mold.
Speaker 3:Not, you're thinking like penicillin, miss hot mold, cider, ale or wine and spices drunk traditionally as an integral part of wasseling, which is an ancient English yuletide drinking ritual and salutation, either involved in door-to-door Charity giving or used to ensure a good harvest of your following year. Did you guys know this?
Speaker 2:Can you pull up a wassel video and can we wassel?
Speaker 3:Okay, well listen, I guess it's a thing what's wasseling. The purpose is to encourage the spirits into ensuring a good harvest the following season. It takes place on the 12th night after Christmas and involves a visit to a nearby orchard for singing, dancing, drinking and general merry-making.
Speaker 1:I'm I'm hosting this.
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh, let's have a wasseling party 12 days after Christmas.
Speaker 1:I'm looking at the calendar right now, the 12th.
Speaker 2:Wait a minute, go back up, sarah.
Speaker 3:Guys there's a good reason what go back up?
Speaker 2:Why are there Toasts hanging from the trees?
Speaker 3:Yes, there's toast. Slices of toast soaked in cider are tied to the branches of an apple tree. After wasseling at At this place. Okay, okay, after wasseling Wow wow, so hang toast. Look at this doesn't that look something precarious?
Speaker 2:It does, it looks like it looks like a witch hunt.
Speaker 1:It sure does. To me it looks like a party.
Speaker 3:This is a wassel gathering Holding torches cat. They are holding torches at night. It looks like it's in.
Speaker 2:Salem Massachusetts.
Speaker 3:It totally does my goodness, those from Salem. Well, isn't that so interesting guys? Did you know about that? I love the, the wassailing bowls wassailing bowls.
Speaker 1:Wow, it's spelled precariously as well.
Speaker 2:This is so neat, sarah was are we gonna find an orchard to sing?
Speaker 3:in. We need to find it. I wonder if there's any wassailing in Nashville, I'll Google it. Okay, and then, either way, let's make a wassel beverage together.
Speaker 1:I would love to make a wassel beverage. So when we lived in Germany when I was younger, they served at the German Christmas markets glue vine glue vine, which is basically like a sweet, a sweet wine that is like heated up and it's like kind of like hot cider, kind of like mold. It's oh my god, it's so good. And so I feel like we can do this like we can make some. We total Wassel, we can make wassel and then we can wassel ourselves and we can have a wassailing party. We should wassailing and we also have a wassailing theme song.
Speaker 3:There's a holiday wassel tour, what my gosh.
Speaker 2:Mansion two and a half hours long. That feels like a real commitment to wassailing.
Speaker 3:Sure does.
Speaker 2:He's basically caroling, it says. After your guided tour of the mansion, the warm, spiced fragrance of our homemade wassel will fill the air. Pineapple, orange, clove and cinnamon are all a part of our very own Mouthwatering Christmas recipe. I think I'd rather come to your orchard wassailing cat.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes, I think that that's too way too much of a commitment.
Speaker 3:That's way too much. We can just wander the cul-de-sac.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah. For those of you who want to go wassailing Fancy style, you can go to just text us and we'll send you cats address.
Speaker 2:It's that simple, I can't. You sent a text to our infamous cat and moose and producer Sarah thread and it and it. I'm not gonna read the whole text because I have not been given permission, but the first sentence says this I'm not sure if I'm healing or dying or if they are the same thing, and I connected with that sentence so much and I literally took a screenshot and put it in my notes here. I'm not sure if I'm healing or dying or if they are the same thing. I feel exactly the same way right now.
Speaker 1:Really, I do Like like how does that play out for you?
Speaker 2:It plays out Probably like what it's like to have multiple personalities. But I'll have a moment. So I'm like, oh my god, like look what I'm doing, I'm so proud of myself, this is amazing. And then I, immediately after that, I have moments that are like I, I actually have to have that conversation. I want to throw up and then throw myself off a hill, not a mountain, just a hill and Then I have a moment where I'm spontaneously crying, going like I Wanted to be alone, and four minutes later going.
Speaker 1:It is. It's like having like a multiple personality Disorder. Yeah, yeah, it's very weird. How is that? Is that ring true for you, Sarah? Yeah?
Speaker 2:I mean, I'm trying to think like Does healing and dying feel the same? It feels.
Speaker 3:Gosh, it might even be a little yin yang-ish, you know. Oh, look at you Yang and you're just going and out of both.
Speaker 1:I have found another converse you just made cats whole life.
Speaker 2:Yes, youngish. Do you want to expand on that, or are you just gonna drop the mic and walk away?
Speaker 3:No, no, no, no. I guess I just mean like, sometimes it's one and sometimes it's the other, and sometimes it's a little bit of both. You know like, as you're moving through when you're just like I, why is it so hard? Why I can't you know what is the whatever. You're just not feeling like whatever, but dying, like it just feels like okay, is this, this is, and then something Changes, something turns, something turns and then all of a sudden, yeah, like whoa, I'm growing, something's changing and that feels like healing.
Speaker 2:I agree and I also feel like the I. I would agree with the yin yang thing, because I feel like that movement of Emotion even though it goes from, I feel good and then something can happen and move us to another place. That constant movement is really Special, because I think it's the same Movement that happens when we lose someone to death and the world keeps on going and we go. Why is the world continuing to move, like mine isn't? Don't they know? Yeah, yeah, and so I think it's the only thing that gets us through, and so I think the healing is the dying. They're like choosing to you, maybe accept, maybe acceptance is healing. I don't know, but I'm going into a deep hole at this point. But I found it very interesting that I too am feeling that, yeah, well put.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think for me it really kind of came from a place of like I in and I've talked a lot with my my body work practitioner about this, about how, like the highs feel even higher and the lows feel even lower, like, like I have laughed more in the past few years of my life. Then I think I've laughed my entire life like I've had so much fun, like the people With whom I keep close community I absolutely adore, and I've gotten to laugh a lot, and I've also cried a lot more than I've ever cried. And it's like Kind of to your point, moose. It's like do I have some sort of multiple personality, complex, maybe, or is is is to Sarah's point or is everything just working together even more balanced, even more beautifully? Right, then it has before because of I don't have that much longer to live. I don't have.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean, and and I'm not saying that like I'm gonna die tomorrow, right, but I'm also saying that it's like I have lived almost half of a century, right, that's a long time to live, and then who knows how much more is left, and it's like it's like even if I am healing to the best of of my, my own body and my own mind and my own Spirit can heal. I am still moving toward dying, you know, and it's like it's just to me. It's a mind meld and I Appreciate that. You appreciated my, my attempt at being a little poetic about it. It's very good, I mean I would hope at this point.
Speaker 2:You know, like I said, I feel like at age 45 I'm starting to have adult things happen and there's some joke to that, but there's also some like reality and If I'm learning anything right now, I'm learning that and everyone who is not in anagram 8 is gonna be like duh.
Speaker 2:But this is my as Some might say, this is my crust to bear. Um, uh, I cannot rush anything in my life and when I try to rush it and move fast, the universe slows it down, and I think what that is and this is what I'm noticing anyway, and I think it's been that way the whole time. I just had this idea that I had more control, but I'm noticing anything that works out that truly satisfies my soul has had to take like multiple seasons, and multiple, um, you know, like I've had to. It's been a process is the best way to say that Whenever something has worked out, it has been a process, and I think that is so important to pay attention to. We used to say in the music industry that sometimes it sucks when an artist, like, gets a number one out of the gate and their whole career blows up right away because you want them to kind of have to earn it.
Speaker 1:There's no development there right it's like it's just straight to the top and it's like, oh, you don't know how to run your finances or run a business or how to treat people.
Speaker 2:You don't know how to get in a minivan and go across the country instead of a tour bus Like yeah yeah.
Speaker 2:And I think it's the same thing for us is, like you know, I said to Sarah the other day, I was like I feel like I keep ending up back in the same place, and she reminded me she and we have no idea what the right phrase is. But she was like it's that spiral thing. Yes, you're over the same spot, but you've learned something. And now you're here, even though it's the same spot. Over here, it's a different perspective of where you're at in it and, um, so, newsflash, this is a journey, I suppose. And, uh, I don't know, I'm just learning to, not, I'm just learning to be like, if it, if it is not meant to be mine, I'm not chasing it and I've never been a real chaser anyway, but I'm just trying to not have unhealthy expectations and also unhealthy wants, you know, like why do I want?
Speaker 1:I don't need to want. I mean, you're sounding more and more like a Taoist monk, like it's really.
Speaker 2:And Jesus, didn't he have some of that too, oh yeah, yeah, I think Jesus studied with Taoist people, so that's a whole other thing.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah.
Speaker 2:Um, we just lost 12 followers. Um, what was that? Sarah, can you put a noise in there Like boom, boom, boom boom. I like going down a tunnel.
Speaker 1:Yeah, or put the noise from Antiques Roadshow. When things go down and value it goes mwah, mwah.
Speaker 2:I love Antiques Roadshow.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was watching it last night, um, before the football game came on, and I was just amazed Like this one guy had this doll that was like a wooden doll that was dressed kind of like Santa Claus or something like that, and he had gotten it at a thrift store or something like that for like 25 bucks and the doll was worth like $2,000.
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh. And it's just like why?
Speaker 1:why would anybody want that doll?
Speaker 2:And then, on top of that, why? Well, that's the thing, it may be worth it, but who the hell's buying it is my question.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2:Now I do love a good thrift store because I love you know. Here's the deal. I'm going to give everyone a little tip here. I've been doing a lot of uh with Archie Montana. I've been doing a lot of like understanding keywords and how to get people to click on things and stuff like that when they have interest in different things. If you want to, if you want to run a store like that, just put the word vintage or antique. I'm telling you these and I think they just buy the stuff and leave it in their garage, but they must own things that are nostalgic to them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, it makes sense. It makes sense, that's interesting.
Speaker 1:Maybe their hearts tied to it. Yeah Well, I learned in in part of my studies. Um, I learned how, uh, the, the lady that um invented the modality that that I'm studying, um, she hurt did her PhD, um on what she calls the emotional kaleidoscope, and so it talks about the emotions as they pertain to the lady's five element theory and um, one of, I forget which of sense to me and I'm like. I look all around my office because my desk is like an explosion of a toy factory, but I'm like every single one of these things.
Speaker 3:Look behind Sarah.
Speaker 1:Look behind you. Oh my God, that's so funny. For me it's knowledge.
Speaker 2:My Enneagram five. I'm like must hoard books.
Speaker 1:And I don't know what this has to do with my Enneagram, but all of mine is must have fun, like I have all toys and cartoons and nice things that people have written me and said to me pasted up everywhere. It's just interesting. You know how it's like. We want to hang on. We want to hang on to two experiences and memories that we love and that can be way taken to the extreme.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know which is the point that I was making, but it's, like I don't know, kind of kind of neat to me.
Speaker 2:I think so too. I used to say to my sister like she would hold on to every card that my dad or grandmother gave her, and I didn't understand it, like I've always kind of been like, just toss it if you're not going to use it or whatever. But it wasn't until I got older that I was like, oh well, that is such a connection for her to have those. She doesn't anymore, thank goodness, cause I don't want to clean that out.
Speaker 1:And still in my, in my cabinet, in my office, I still have every single Polaroid and every single card that people wrote me for my 40th birthday. Wow, oh, wow, I kept it. All you know which, you Moose, were such a big and instrumental part in making a really successful celebration.
Speaker 2:But um, but yeah, I was.
Speaker 1:Um hello.
Speaker 2:Do you? I do have a question. I was doing some research for my real job um about Christmas classics. Do you guys have like a favorite Christmas song? I know this is very controversial.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I have an emotionally favorite Christmas song and then I have uh, it's just my favorite song melodically. So they're different.
Speaker 2:Okay, can you expand and tell us what the names of them are?
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah. So from a nostalgic, um heart standpoint, oh Holy Night is really important. I love that. Um, it's my mom's favorite Christmas song and it was her mom's favorite Christmas song. Um, so oh Holy Night.
Speaker 2:And then I really, really love the song that that says oh, yeah, oh, is that because you have a client with that song?
Speaker 1:She's staying out. No, I don't. I don't have a client with that. You don't Does it oh?
Speaker 2:does it? Uh, that specific, I thought he has a song called Gloria.
Speaker 1:There is a song called Gloria that's about six years old, and then there's a current single go tell it Go tell it on the mountain.
Speaker 2:Over the hills and everywhere.
Speaker 1:Go tell it on the mountain. What do my Christmas classics mean to you and your studies?
Speaker 2:Well, I'm just curious what your favorites are, because so part of my job every year is looking at the songs that are getting played the most at radio, that are Christmas classics and going are there any others that could be recorded by another artist? We're always looking for the classics that are not, you know, getting played every single year. We're always looking for that exercise, but it was Sarah that pointed out to me that I love that song, which I never know the name of it, but I think it's called Slay Ride. Slay Ride, yeah, and it's just the way it starts feels so magical to me.
Speaker 3:Is it that Giddy up, giddy up, giddy up let's go, let's play the show.
Speaker 1:It's go tell it.
Speaker 2:Kat, but you don't have to play it. No, I want to. We can do a little, medley guys.
Speaker 1:Okay here it is oh nice, okay, MUSIC.
Speaker 2:Barsheepers kept their watchin' oh silent flocks by night MUSIC.
Speaker 1:And everywhere. Go tell it on the mountain.
Speaker 2:The heart of the hillar is here. Go tell it. On the mountain.
Speaker 1:Go tell it on the mountain.
Speaker 2:Yay, that makes me so happy. Yeah, thanks, are you happy? Hey, quick thing, guys If you don't celebrate Christmas, cheers, cheers, happy holidays. Okay, so we will definitely talk to our listeners before Christmas. No doubt about that, right Great correct?
Speaker 1:Yes, okay, I'm planning on it. I'm not going anywhere.
Speaker 2:I would like for everyone to go around and share one piece of something for the listeners this week. Just one sentence, a suggestion, a devotional, a challenge A um put away your Sisyphian tasks. Yes, I like that cat, put them away, sarah.
Speaker 3:Um, if you change the way you look at things, the things you look at change oh dang and um.
Speaker 2:I would like to say if it's not working, just hang in there, it's going to work. It just takes time. Music. We love you listeners happy almost holidays.
Speaker 3:Happy holidays.
Speaker 2:Go get some wassail, go get some falafel.
Speaker 3:MUSIC.
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