Ever wondered how a simple hum can soothe your nervous system, or how a surprise encounter with nature's wildlings can turn into a hair-raising tale? Join us as Producer Sara regales us with her San Diego escapades and we navigate the unpredictable waters of remote recording. As Sara's voice unexpectedly dips and dives, giving us a chuckle, we also delve into the science behind the calming effects of humming on the vagus nerve—a little-known trick to keep you humming with good vibes all day long.
Our episode takes a wild turn with some critter comedy when Kat recounts a listener's personal battle of wits with a sneaky cicada and Sara's sprint-in-the-park from a California King snake. We weave through these encounters with nature's unpredictability to the more tender moments of life, like dealing with Bell-Bell's anxiety after a grooming session. It's a heartfelt nod to the empathy we share with our four-legged companions, serving up a slice of life that pet parents know all too well.
Rounding out our conversation, we sprinkle in some 'seasonal seasonings'—those personal philosophies that give our lives their unique flavor. From Kat's personal recipe of "A Little Goes a Long Way" to Sara's vibrant "Tajin," each of us shares the zest that keeps us tickled and tenacious. And if you've ever been curious about the intersection of holistic health and therapeutic practices, we're stirring the pot with insights on licorice extract, the intriguing potential of combining talk therapy with psychedelics, and the artistry that springs from meditative states. Get ready for an episode that spices up your routine with laughter, learning, and a touch of something unexpectedly profound.
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Ever wondered how a simple hum can soothe your nervous system, or how a surprise encounter with nature's wildlings can turn into a hair-raising tale? Join us as Producer Sara regales us with her San Diego escapades and we navigate the unpredictable waters of remote recording. As Sara's voice unexpectedly dips and dives, giving us a chuckle, we also delve into the science behind the calming effects of humming on the vagus nerve—a little-known trick to keep you humming with good vibes all day long.
Our episode takes a wild turn with some critter comedy when Kat recounts a listener's personal battle of wits with a sneaky cicada and Sara's sprint-in-the-park from a California King snake. We weave through these encounters with nature's unpredictability to the more tender moments of life, like dealing with Bell-Bell's anxiety after a grooming session. It's a heartfelt nod to the empathy we share with our four-legged companions, serving up a slice of life that pet parents know all too well.
Rounding out our conversation, we sprinkle in some 'seasonal seasonings'—those personal philosophies that give our lives their unique flavor. From Kat's personal recipe of "A Little Goes a Long Way" to Sara's vibrant "Tajin," each of us shares the zest that keeps us tickled and tenacious. And if you've ever been curious about the intersection of holistic health and therapeutic practices, we're stirring the pot with insights on licorice extract, the intriguing potential of combining talk therapy with psychedelics, and the artistry that springs from meditative states. Get ready for an episode that spices up your routine with laughter, learning, and a touch of something unexpectedly profound.
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Welcome to the Cat and Moose podcast. I'm Cat and I'm Moose.
Speaker 2:This is a true life podcast where we explore the quirks of being human. Hey Cat.
Speaker 1:Hey Moose.
Speaker 2:Hey Sarah, hi guys.
Speaker 1:Okay, there's a couple of things going on here and I'm just gonna I'm gonna narrate what's going on. The first thing is is that producer Sarah is producing the Cat and Moose podcast from San Diego, california, today. So, first of all, sarah, thank you for making this possible amidst all of your very important jobs. Amidst all of your very important jobs, and also while we are recording remotely together which we did a lot during COVID not necessarily from California, but also there's a bit of a delay in Sarah's voice and so she's sounding a little bit different than what you guys are normally used to. So, sarah, I was wondering if you could give us like kind of a recap of your day so far today. That would be amazing.
Speaker 3:Yes, first Moose, you're not allowed to talk over Kat because of the mic situation and the headphones that you refuse to put on. God damn it, anything else. What cat? What was the question?
Speaker 1:I was just looking. I was looking for a recap of your day.
Speaker 3:Well, since I sound like I'm drunk or on testosterone neither of which are true I rented a Mini Cooper convertible and I've been just driving up the coast not too far, just went up to like La Jolla and went to a state park and I went on a small hike and then I got back in my car. My phone died and the charging wasn't working in the car, so I just went and stopped at a restaurant and I had a lunch on at a seaside little cafe.
Speaker 1:It was beautiful. Oh, that sounds so nice.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and then I managed to get a little bit of a charge back in my phone and I got back to my hotel and here I am with you guys enjoying a little hour or so of podcast time.
Speaker 1:That's fantastic. It is so good to be in your energetic presences. Likewise.
Speaker 2:I can't get over the way her voice is coming through. I feel like you know how, like teenagers, boys come into their voice and all of a sudden their voice drops. I feel like that happened to you when you went to.
Speaker 1:California. Yeah, and Sarah, it's like your balls have proverbially dropped. Thank you, I mean thank you, I mean thank you. Okay, so, since we're talking about sound and and things like that, um, I received a message from, um a friend of mine. Um, and she was Jesus. No, it wasn. She might as well be Jesus. She's amazing. She was letting me know, she reminded me that humming stimulates the vagus nerve. Oh, shall we hum? And so I was thinking we could go hum, and I was just wondering if sarah would be about a third step lower than us and tell me what happens when you stimulate the vagus nerve again.
Speaker 1:I think good stuff. I think, if I'm not mistaken, I think it's like the chief in charge of the parasympathetic nervous system, or maybe it's a sympathetic, I don't remember which one, and I knew you were going to ask me that damn it, and I didn't look that up. I just know that the vagus nerve is really important and I know that stimulating it is usually a good thing. Based on my very, very, very limited understanding.
Speaker 4:Hey guys. Yes, my thing stopped recording.
Speaker 1:And now you're back.
Speaker 4:Oh, Now you sound like you. Oh my God. Ok, so we have to start over. I'm very sorry, but at least I'm back.
Speaker 2:Well, we can keep going. You can just jump back in, okay. What were you saying, kat?
Speaker 1:I was revealing to you and producer Sarah and our listeners that I have no idea the actual importance of the vagus nerve. Oh yes, have no idea the actual importance of the vagus nerve. Oh yes, um yeah, I was just saying that humming stimulates it and that my friend left me a message reminding me of that and saying that. That saying, saying the, the sound, rah, rah, rah, rah, rah, rah, rah, rah, rah, rah, rah, rah, rah, that somehow stimulates the vagus nerve and I just thought we could practice it together with our listeners.
Speaker 2:Don't you want to do the Lady Gaga further with the rah-rah? Is that okay, miss?
Speaker 1:please, okay. So as we go, rah-rah-rah-rah, I would love for you to just pay attention to your belly, to your diaphragm, to your stomach, to the tension, or the lack thereof, in your belly and, as you go, rah, rah, rah, rah, rah, that you would just allow that vibration to dip down all the way into the dantian, into your soul seat, into the center, into your soul seat, into the center and that place that is kind of where the female wow, I want to use the word placenta, and that's not the right word the uterus, thank you. The female uterus is located similar to that place in the body and for our, our male oriented friends who are listening, um, your energetic uterus, I would just like you to imagine the rah, rah, rah, rah, rah just dipping and touching down into that place Rah, rah, rah, rah, rah and just see how that feels in your body.
Speaker 2:Did you say energetic uterus?
Speaker 3:I did.
Speaker 2:Could you explain what that is?
Speaker 1:Well, male humans do not have a physical uterus in which they can carry a child like female humans do, and I have been taught in my studies that males have an energetic uterus. They also have a seat of the soul. They also have that place kind of in the lower burner, the lower Danchen, the seat of the soul.
Speaker 3:that's like kind of above the pelvic bone but below the belly button and kind of internal, kind of that place where the, the sacral chakra, might reside um so I I have heard it said that males have an energetic uterus there, okay, do you guys find yourself doing kegels, looking for your soul seat?
Speaker 2:no I am doing it. I'm like, where are you? Are you oh? There you are oh.
Speaker 1:Can guys do Kegels that we should ask a guy? Hey guys.
Speaker 2:Guys, hey guys, hey guys, can you do Kegels? They would just be kind of like lifting up their muscles of their junk, their perineum.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I mean everything comes back to the perineum. I don't really understand why. I don't understand why it?
Speaker 1:makes me think of. We heard from one of our listeners, a dear, dear soul who we love so much, and her name is Megan, and she sent in a story and I asked her permission to share it on the podcast. Can I share it with you guys? Yes, please, yes, please, okay. She says hi guys.
Speaker 1:In 2008 I was walking through the aisles of a local exxon. I was 18 years old and feeling cute in my low-rise flare jeans. I felt a piece of scotch tape crinkle in my pants. It was mid-thigh. I squished it, trying to figure out why there was tape in my pants so weird. How did that happen? Then it moved. What, oh no? I screamed bloody murder, dropped to the floor and began digging up my flare pant leg. The the thigh part, of course was skin tight and the cicada was traveling north. No, oh no. By the end I had peeled my pants all the way up to my crotch. Thankfully, I found the dang thing just before it entered into hibernation. I flung it across the store and leaned back on my hands to catch my breath. That's when I realized the older gentleman behind the counter was leaned all the way to one side to peep past a shelf at me. He saw the whole thing, I calmly got up and did the walk of shame out of his store. All of this to to say I will be avoiding Exxon this summer.
Speaker 2:Oh man, my gosh, you guys, can you imagine there's nothing creepier than something in your drawers.
Speaker 1:And like a cicada. How did that get?
Speaker 2:up in there. No, they, they follow you in. And it flew in. And then it, it got down on her pants and she threw them do you think she put them on?
Speaker 4:put it on her pants on, with it in? Yes, it was in there, I think.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think it had to have been in there I know it was just in there like licking her skin and biting it and probably also going like I'm terrified here in this strange space between denim and skin and you know, I mean like imagine the cicadas, trauma as well. You know like hard for me. But yeah, yeah, I mean it is. It is a little bit hard because it just it seems so terrifying. And, megan, I am so glad that you made it through that and we love you. And for broods number 13 and number 19, who are visiting the middle Tennessee area this year, you guys stay out of Megan's pants, okay stay out of our pants.
Speaker 2:Stay out of our pants.
Speaker 1:Sarah, didn't you run into a rodent today?
Speaker 4:I almost came face to face with a California king snake. I was on my little walk and I stopped at this little. It was a beautiful path and like very clean trails and everything very open, and I stopped at this opening to take a photo and I kind of leaned into the photo and the snake was right there at my feet, Did you get it in the picture.
Speaker 4:You'd think I'd snap a damn photo, but no, I just fucking ran because my heart fell into my gut, yeah, and I just like took off down the hill and everyone was like what the hell is wrong with her. And then I look back and there's four people standing there looking at it like wow, look at that, there's a snake. Crazy ass people Wow. That is, I don't know, but I know that they eat all the other snakes in California.
Speaker 1:Oh now you called it a California King snake. I've heard of a California king mattress. Are they related?
Speaker 2:Let me see that's a good dad joke, Kat. I like that.
Speaker 1:Well, I am a dad and a mom. I'm a dad and a mom to my sweet golden retriever, Bell Bell. What's going on? And she has been so sick this week, you guys.
Speaker 2:What's going?
Speaker 1:on. Well, I had a mobile groomer come to my house um to give her her summer cut, which I do every year like this is not something that is terribly unusual and she was more anxious than usual and so I asked the groomer. I said can I come like hang out with you guys and just like be with you, like so that maybe I can help with her anxiety? And and he was like yeah, of course he was a really, really gentle soul and a great groomer. He did a great job and, um, right after she got off of the groomer's table, she jumped out into the front yard and just shit herself like liquid gold, I mean just like like straight liquid diarrhea out her butt, which is like she's had the runs a little bit before, but nothing like this.
Speaker 1:And so this was on Monday. And so today um, the day that we're recording is four days later, on a Thursday, and I took her to the vet this morning because she has just had continuous diarrhea for four days. And then early this morning I slept outside on my pool deck last night just to be outside with her, because she kept needing to go outside to go potty. So I'm like, well, I'm just going to sleep out here with her, like like I'm camping with with Moose and producer Sarah. And so I was sleeping outside and and early, early, early in the morning, before the sun came up, she vomited. And so I was like, okay, like this is not good. And so I took her to the vet this morning and they gave her antibiotics, probiotics, fluids and an anti-nausea injection.
Speaker 1:And she and I got home from the vet and we were both so exhausted just from that experience that we took like a three hour nap. And now she is sleeping just like purring and snoring at my feet while we record the podcast. And so I would love for any and all of the good doggy vibes to just be lifted up for Bell Bell. And if any of you out there listening have got dogs or cats or other animals who are going through challenging things, just know that our hearts and in our minds and our good wishes are with you. And um, yeah, just gotta, I mean.
Speaker 1:I mean, it's like I don't even understand how parents of human children deal I would be at the er, like every time something was wrong right, yeah, like a dear friend of ours, a mutual friend of ours, um, his son, um, fell at karate last night and broke his elbow and they were at the hospital with him until like 6 am and I'm like how, how do you do that? Like, how do you, how do you function as a parent of a human? It's like functioning as a parent of a dog.
Speaker 2:Is is hard enough no offense to the parents, but I think it's harder to be an animal parent. Oh, say more about that. No, I don't want haters, I just. I think animals are the most amazing thing that ever existed. They're so kind well, at least I know some aren't, but the ones I've had, they like, know you better than humans do, because they just you're her, you're their whole world yeah, I'm sorry that she's so sick yeah, me too okay, I have a question for you guys.
Speaker 2:I would like to know from each of you no-transcript.
Speaker 1:Now are you also going to answer the question, moose?
Speaker 2:I'll answer it. I'll answer it while you guys think about that. The thing that I realize I'm recognizing is how much I need a challenge in my life, and another friend said I always need a thrill, but I like to think of it as a challenge. And you know, I'm ending school. I will be graduating very soon from my with my master's and in a matter of weeks, right, like I think. So, yeah, like three weeks, amazing, um, congratulations. And I turned in my thesis, thesis which was exhilarating, and now I am sad. I am sad that school is over, so I'm trying to take that same energy and get my ass back to the gym. Um, that's the goal. But also, like, my brain needs that kind of challenge, so that's what.
Speaker 1:I'm learning. Yeah, that that is sounds really important and it sounds like you already have an idea. Even three or four weeks out from graduating, you already have an idea of what you think your brain needs next. Like that feels like growth to me. Like not just like landing in that place and then going oh shit, what do I do now? What do I need? You know, is there anything other than going to the gym? That that feels like a challenge or something that resonates with you.
Speaker 2:Just anything outdoors I think I'm craving like, but I hate when it's hot and it's been hot already in Nashville, so that stinks but anything outdoors and then I'm probably going. I may consider more schooling, but to be determined we call that continuing education, yeah, and it continues.
Speaker 2:I know nobody here is shocked by this, but I might. I might go back to. I love for people just to take my money, Like I am into. In fact, I'll even borrow money, if you, so that you can take it from me. So if you have, any learning opportunities that you need me, you need my money. Just let me know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I just sent in my $515 for my very last training um to become certified in the, the local distal acupressure modality that I've been studying for almost five years now, um, and if you would like to Venmo me $515 to support my habit, I would. I would love that.
Speaker 2:Just make a, just make a I almost said make a LinkedIn. Just make a. Uh, what's it called when? If you need starter, go fund me, go fund me. I mean people get pregnant now and they just make a. Go fund me. Like we like it was an accident and we have to pay for it now. We like it was an accident and we have to pay for it now. We need one just for our own education fund.
Speaker 2:Yeah, if you want the cat and moose podcast to continue to be an educational podcast where we tell you about our continuing education. We need you to visit catmoosepodcastcom. Slash gofundme. Hey, that will be up by the time this podcast airs, I think. As long as you're upfront about what it is like, if you have a legitimate need and you need help from a community, I'm for that. I love being generous. But it always shocks me when it's like you know, johnny wants to go to baseball this year. We need $165. And I'm like just call someone, man, call them. You don't stand up and go fund me.
Speaker 1:But I mean, I mean, this is like the, the younger generation's version of calling someone. It's to put something out there on social media, call it a relationship and and look for a response which really flows beautifully into what I've been learning about myself, Like you. You were asking, sarah, are you just chomping at the bit to share what you've been learning about yourself?
Speaker 3:Go ahead.
Speaker 1:Go Okay. So, um, I had this revelation the other night and, um, I texted myself my revelation so that I would remember it, like concise and super clear and basically like the, the whole premise, the whole ethos of what I have been recognizing is that I have evolved as it pertains to putting out emotional bids for connection. Oh, so, several episodes ago, moose, you talked with us about emotional bids for connection and, if you remember, like I got real butt hurt and I got my feelings hurt and I didn't want us to release the episode because I felt like I was too needy and like all this kind of stuff, and it took me like a couple of days to go. Okay, what I shared was just true, like it was true and it's vulnerable, and what you shared was true and vulnerable, and so those people that listened to that episode, we can put a link on it, a link to it, in our notes that are written now, chris, just so you know, by AI, and that's why they're so much better than what I used to do, and so so, anyway, the evolution and the update on my emotional bids for connection are that I have learned through my trauma healing and my emotional healing and my emotional maturing and going through therapy and body work and all of that kind of stuff, I have learned that it is really important to me to put emotional bids for connection out there. I have this kind of like hook and bait thing where it's like I'm going to throw bait out there and then you're going to bite the hook like a fish and I'm going to reel you back in. You know, like that's kind of like like somewhere in my subconscious. That's my desire. I'll have a desire for connection with other people, and what I have learned about myself in this past season is that I am doing that with people from whom I have a decent idea of what I can expect back. I am not putting emotional bids for connection out to people who I know simply cannot respond in the way that I'm wanting them to respond. Yeah Right, and it feels, it feels mature to me. It feels like I have orchestrated my kingdom being safe. It feels like I have really great people in my life, um, who understand me and understand what I need.
Speaker 1:And like if I say to you, sarah, you know, hey, I'm really needing some support right now and I just need to process something out loud, will you be willing to just sit with me. In that, like 10 times out of 10, sarah, you would say yes to that, right? Yeah, absolutely, you know. And it's like same with you, moose. It's like you would be like yes, absolutely, you know. And it's like same with you, moose. It's like you would be like, yes, absolutely. And I have said to you both in the past I'm going through something really hard and I need you to come sit with me. And both of you were here within like 10 minutes, you know, and I don't want to do that on a regular basis and, like you know, just wear out my relationships, and I'm learning that there are certain places where I can't get the response I'm looking for, and so I just don't go there anymore, and I think that that is a great lesson, wonderful.
Speaker 2:I think it's extremely important to notice, Because otherwise we just keep getting hurt in the same way and it's like we're almost culpable for our own suffering at that point right, that's good. Thank you for sharing that. Yeah, sarah, what are you learning?
Speaker 4:um, I think, in a nutshell, I've been finding myself more confident to approach all types of people, um, whether they're people in authority, whether they're people not authority, whether they're people not in authority, they're just, you know, patrons of the concert or staff at the venue, or folks that are helping me set up and load out, and it's just. I have had so little fear approaching people and talking to them and I feel surprised by that, especially because I feel like I'm a very introverted person. But I guess I am surprised that I have moments, and maybe different parts of myself, that are not very introverted. So, yeah, that's fine.
Speaker 1:What do you think has led to that Like, like what, what has? Is it like a confidence thing? Is it like a confidence?
Speaker 4:Yeah, for sure, I feel I feel happy about what I'm doing, I feel passionate about I like the people I'm working with, I like the, the tour I'm on, I like my job and I think that makes me feel like you know, I guess, uh, willing and happy to admit I'm good at this, I can do this, I'm good at these things, and then I have the confidence to just go and be good at it, you know.
Speaker 1:Nice man that sounds like it feels really good yeah it's.
Speaker 4:It's. It's definitely different from where I've I've been, at least in the last, you know, several, several months. So it's good, I'm enjoying it.
Speaker 1:I love that, sarah. That's fantastic. And you're doing some guest producing. You're doing some stuff out on the road on the tour that you're on Like. Is there anything else that you're doing that that should be acknowledged amongst your points of badassery?
Speaker 4:I don't know, how's your garden going? Great, I feel like that is so fun because I'm not, I haven't been able to spend a ton of time there, but you guys know, I always, or I often, compare my mental health to how my, the state of my garden and my, my backyard, and this year everything has just bloomed like crazy, like the things that we planted the first year or two that we moved in. They're all just like enormous and so many flowers and like it's just feels really sweet to see, you know. And then when I think of that comparison, I always give, I'm like, well, that that shows a lot about myself, if I, if it truly is a therapeutic thing for me.
Speaker 4:Um, and it's funny because I don't feel like I've been out there like physically nurturing the yard so much this year but the years prior I have, you know, and putting them in the ground three, four years ago, and like keeping them alive year after year. It's like, oh they're, I have been nurturing it, you know, I have been nurturing myself, I have been growing myself and yeah, so now it's like things are in bloom and it's fun, it's, it's a beautiful state of being that is so awesome, it, it, it reminds me.
Speaker 1:Are you okay if I connect that with some Chinese five element mumbo jumbo? Yeah, for sure, as you do.
Speaker 1:Well, but I just want it to be okay because, like, some people might just be like shut up, like I just want to feel what I feel, and I'm thinking of the water element, which is associated with winter and associated with the bladder and the kidneys. And the kidneys is where we store our like core energy, like the essence of who we are, and the bladder is how we let go of things that we no longer need, and that happens during hibernation. You know, it's like we tuck in, we we really kind of go okay, like I'm going to kind of almost harness all of my energies, and when you come out of hibernation, you kind of let any anything go that you no longer need, and then you move into wood or you move into spring, and spring is when blooms come forth. It's when there's so much energy coming from within that it causes like almost like an explosion from inside the ground into a growth, a plant, a thing.
Speaker 1:And I was thinking about you the other day, sarah, because last time I was at your house. And I was thinking about you the other day, sarah, because last time I was at your house I was noticing that your lilacs are just beautifully in bloom. And I have had lilacs planted in my yard for five years now and they've never, ever mine haven't either. Well, but this year they have. And and I walked out into my yard just yesterday and was met with like tens, if not even hundreds, of purple and white blossoms, overnight, my lilac bushes, and I was like, yes, like I felt so, so happy.
Speaker 4:Yeah, man, it's, I really. I mean, we talk about the seasons all the time and I personally feel very connected to the seasons this year and like what is happening in the seasoning is in the seasons.
Speaker 2:No, in the seasoning I am seeing seasoning.
Speaker 1:Can I add you to my hamburgers for tonight?
Speaker 2:Sure, hold on, guys. I need. We always talk about how we need to incorporate, play a little bit more, if any. Right now, if you were going to name your seasoning for this season, I want you to take a moment. Sarah will insert some fantastic music here. Think about the name of your seasoning. You want to stock it on at Publix and Kroger's and Aldi. What is the name of your seasoning for the season?
Speaker 1:Mine came up from the seat of my soul at the moment that you asked the question and mine is. A little goes a long way.
Speaker 2:Wait a minute. I need to know how that connects to your life right now.
Speaker 1:It just you don't need much a cat, you just need a little bit. So why I need to know A little goes a long way.
Speaker 2:Okay, we'll come back to that. Sarah, do you know yours?
Speaker 4:Yeah, I'm going to go with tajin. Do you guys know what tajin is? Like tahini? No, tajin, it's like a Mexican spice mix. Oh, consisting predominantly of lime, chili peppers and salt.
Speaker 1:Okay, and why does that resonate with you?
Speaker 4:Because it feels spicy and zesty, and throw lime in there and it's a whoo. Let's go.
Speaker 2:Okay, that's my seasoning right now, so it's going to be called Sarah's Tahin.
Speaker 1:Sure.
Speaker 3:Sarah's.
Speaker 2:Tahin. Okay, great, okay, seasoning right now, so it's going to be called sarah's tahini.
Speaker 4:Sure, sarah's tahini, okay, great okay, what about your mousse?
Speaker 2:my seasoning is going to be called um fragile but agile, fragile how does it taste agile? It tastes um know, it's an acquired taste, this flavor. It's got like a bite to it and it's a little salty, like me, and it's got like a hit of licorice at the end.
Speaker 1:Ooh, yeah.
Speaker 2:Like fennel, yeah, like a fennel-y flavor. Hmm, fragile. But agile. What a nice seasoning. Yes, thank you.
Speaker 1:Well, and I also learned recently from our now community doctor who is the doctor of all of us.
Speaker 2:Yes, we hired her just for our now community doctor, who is the doctor of all of us. Yes, um, we hired her just for our small community. That's how much money we have um and um.
Speaker 1:She taught me that there is a certain version of the extract of licorice that helps to line and protect the, the gastrointestinal system, the esophagus, the stomach, the small and large intestines. And if you take this licorice whenever you take ibuprofen, it kind of counteracts. You know, ibuprofen can be really hard on the stomach and she's like every time you take an ibuprofen. Just take a couple of these and it'll help you, help you out, and my issues of my stomach being upset, and especially in this place up in my chest, have probably lessened by like 60 percent.
Speaker 2:That's huge cat, wow that's huge, huge, just from taking taking some licorice lozenges.
Speaker 1:Do you burp licorice? No, no, it's real mild it's, it's not like eating a package of licorice, it's like kind of the extract from it. So it tastes a little bit funky and no, I don't burp it up, but it's been really helpful. I would recommend it.
Speaker 2:Speaking of doctor things. I was watching Somebody on Instagram. I'll give you credit when I think of it. Anyway, she was talking about how she's a medical doctor and she was talking about how talk therapy often cause patients, especially with PTSD and major trauma, to get into a loop where they actually just start believing their stories and then they're, you know, basically operating their lives out of those stories and how, if incorporated with with talk therapy, um, patients were to use psychedelics under a therapeutic doctor. That the actual trauma inside of your body of the traumatic event and that could be as simple as your parents divorcing. I know that's not simple, but you know some, something that doesn't have to be like life threatening um, that it can loosen and release better. And that there's all of this. I can't tell you what the research is because we're a shallow medical podcast, but it really makes me want to go back to our doctor and do more ketamine therapy. Yeah, yeah, I just have to find a bag of cash somewhere laying by a dumpster.
Speaker 1:It's from your GoFundMe page. Oh yeah, we can have a GoFundMe page for education, a GoFundMe page for our therapy and then one specific to psychedelics.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I would do twice as much body work as I do as a client if, if I had said funding and um, I will also say that for those of you that are out there going wow, this sounds like a really good idea, but that feels like a leap for me to go from talk therapy to ketamine or from talk therapy to psychedelics. There's this really nice in between called body work. That is also really helpful.
Speaker 2:Yeah, um, there's also an in-between called weed.
Speaker 1:That is very helpful yeah, so I've heard and like there's just just a lot of options. So just know that your palette is colorful there, there is a lot to choose from and, um, we just invite you into into that.
Speaker 2:Now, didn't you write a poem or something the other day when you were? Is that? Is that something you're going to share with us? Because when I was in, when I was in my dream state, yes, when you were, you were doing this like meditation and like a trance, like state what you. You were reading it to me and I said you've got to share it with our listeners. Because I'd like to ask questions yeah, I mean it's.
Speaker 1:It's basically what I would like to call, and I would like to even have a segment of the podcast now that has special music and everything, sarah. So no pressure whatsoever um, but I would like to call them dream drops Fun.
Speaker 3:Dream drops.
Speaker 1:It's like I've been having little like mini, like almost like prophetic, really, really wise dreams, where I wake up and go like did that happen? Like did that actually happen or did that come like from my subconscious?
Speaker 2:That would be great, though if it came from my subconscious, and that would be great, though, if it came from your subconscious which, well, I think it is.
Speaker 1:I think that that's exactly where it's coming from, and I'm really enjoying how the, the wisdom of my body, is somehow a little bit better connecting with my consciousness, like my everyday, waking consciousness. It's not like it's there's there's this huge gap between the two. It's like I feel like, okay, what's going on in my subconscious is actually communicating really well with what's going on in my consciousness and that is helping me grow and learn and evolve and all of that. And I just think it's so neat, and so I invented or my subconscious invented Dream Drops, and so we'll start manufacturing them and selling them on our GoFundMe page.
Speaker 2:I love it. Now, isn't Dream Drops the segment, or are they also a gummy that you can take to get there?
Speaker 1:I think that Dream Drop drops are a segment and I think that dream drops are still in in creation as far as what they are as a physical product.
Speaker 1:I don't think they're gummies that feels so on the nose and so overdone. You know, like you feel nice. You know it's like, yeah, but that feels so like when everybody figured out Sarah McLachlan was cool, it's like I got mad. You know, it's like I'm just like, like I've known she's cool for like five years and now the rest of the world catches up Cause she releases fumbling towards ecstasy, you know, and so my dream is coming up by the way, it's coming up like in in only a couple of months.
Speaker 2:Are our listeners coming? If you're, if you're sitting in the lawn of the june 29th let us know.
Speaker 1:June 29th, ascend amphitheater sarah mclaughlin's 30th anniversary concert of her fumbling towards ecstasy record. Cat moose producer sarah and many of our friends will be there and we would love for you to come join us. I would love for the whole lawn to be able to tell Sarah like we are here representing the Catmuse podcast.
Speaker 2:The great thing about the Ascendi Amphitheater this is Sarah's voice coming into my head is that they sell bottles of wine. If you're a wine drinker, oh yeah, I'm more of a beer drinker but's very exciting priced.
Speaker 4:But you could buy a bottle of wine. They'll pour the entire bottle into a carafe, hand you the carafe and a glass and then you're on your merry way and can you bring a cooler so like you can put the carafe in some ice?
Speaker 2:no, you can't bring anything, you can bring yourself and a clear bag.
Speaker 1:I bet we could figure out an ice situation, yeah yeah, yeah, maybe, maybe, moose, you could bring that, that gizmo that you used to have when you got your your knee surgeries, where like it like pumped cold water around your knees I'm sure they'll let us in with that we can just tell
Speaker 2:them it's therapeutic, and then we just as soon as we get in there, we pop the top of the bucket and slam it in the ice. A couple of craps, yeah, yeah, oh boy.
Speaker 4:Well, guys, I gotta get back out into the san diego air. Okay, all right, we love you. I love you guys and listeners.
Speaker 1:We love you both we love you, I love you guys and listeners, we love you too. Thank you so much for listening, and our hearts are with you, and you know who you are when you tell us that we're a really important part of your life and that it's really meaningful when you hear from us every week, and so just know that you are seen and you are loved, and your presence with us is what keeps us going. So thank you.
Speaker 2:It's true, thank you, see you next week. Bye guys, bye.
Speaker 3:Bye, bye.
Speaker 1:Special thanks to our producer, Sarah.
Speaker 2:Reed. To find out more, go to catandmoosepodcastcom. Cat Moose is a BP Production.