Human Design and Zit Advice

Can angels really intervene in our lives, or do they need an invitation? We explore this intriguing question inspired by a listener’s trance channeling experience. Alongside personal anecdotes of miraculous encounters, we reflect on the gentle presence of the Holy Spirit and the possibility of inviting angels into therapeutic spaces like massage or Reiki. This episode is woven with humor, wonder, and gratitude, especially for a listener who shared their delightful peach blueberry cobbler recipe, reinforcing the community spirit that defines our podcast.

Navigating the tension between comfort zones and authenticity can be challenging, especially when personal boundaries are at stake. Moose shares a revealing story from a church session that sparked a deeper conversation about the courage needed to assert personal boundaries and maintain one’s authenticity. Through stories of personal growth and self-care, we discuss the balance between wanting to make others comfortable and the need to prioritize our own boundaries, even if it means shaking up the status quo.

We also journey through the playful world of self-discovery tools like Human Design, comparing them to the familiar realms of astrology and personality tests. Sharing our personal experiences, we highlight the importance of letting go of societal pressures and embracing what truly brings us peace, even if it means redefining our dreams. From reminiscing about '90s Christian music to discussing the symbolic significance of feathers and guardian angels, our conversation is a tapestry of introspection, humor, and the quest for authentic living. Tune in for an episode filled with nostalgia, spiritual musings, and a celebration of the unexpected paths that lead us closer to our true selves.

Transcript

Speaker 1 0:04

Welcome to the Cat and Moose podcast. I'm Cat and I'm Moose.

Speaker 2 0:09

This is a true life podcast where we explore the quirks of being human.

Speaker 1 0:16

Hey Cat, hey Moose, hey Sarah, sarah, sarah. Where are you, sarah?

Speaker 2 0:27

We do have to give Sarah some props from last week, that song that she wrote it was great Angels in the Unemployment Line. I mean, you gave her a little something and she just ran with it, didn't she?

Speaker 1 0:43

She did, she did. I was so impressed like I listened to it for the first time and I was like, how did she do that? And then I listened to it like three more times and I was like I still don't know how she did that and it was really, really cool angels in the unemployment line waiting on us to give them a sign they're here to protect, but we don't take the time Now.

Speaker 2 1:12

Angels are standing in the unemployment line. I love that. It was a country song too, yeah but that's what you teed up. You were like there's that sounds like a country song. Speaking of angels, can we just go straight to one of our listeners emails?

Speaker 1 1:29

I have it if you need to, yes, I have it I have it as well.

Speaker 2 1:31

Either one Great, no, I would love for you to read it because this was fascinating to me. There were several things I learned from this email. Okay, good Well.

Speaker 1 1:41

I, I really, really cherish this person a lot. This is one of my instructors from school. She's a regular listener and I just I love her perspective on things. She says hello friends, I like listening to you on the weekends while cooking Today's recipe peach blueberry cobbler with almond biscuits. I mean, holy moly, that sounds good. It sounds like she's British Like who makes peach?

Speaker 2 2:06

blueberry cobbler with almond biscuits.

Speaker 1 2:08

Well, really awesome listeners who are also really awesome people.

Speaker 2 2:14

I would love to try those. Yes, if you would like to share?

Speaker 1 2:17

Yes, If you would like to share those with us. You know who you are and your name is so close to Moose's name that it's a little bit spooky. Okay, anyway, we used to have a trance channel that would come to our massage school. She channeled a group of archangels who collectively called themselves Alicia. Does this remind you of someone else, moose? Yes, it does. Yes, yes, it did me too. I was like, oh, alicia and Bashir, they should get married. Okay, they enjoyed educating us about angels. Yes, everyone has two angels through all lifetimes. Same posse of angels. Some have a group, like my nonverbal daughter. One is behind your left shoulder and can help with emotional problems, like blending their energy with yours to calm you. That's so cool, right. The other, behind your right shoulder, works more with the physical realm, like getting a front row parking space when you're running late. Here's the kicker they do not interfere unless they are asked.

Speaker 2 3:20

I mean, that is what I want you to keep reading, but that is what gets me is, I did not know Like the subject of her email is angels have to be invited. Yes, and I never. I did not know that.

Speaker 1 3:34

Well, I remember one of my best friends who taught me a lot about Jesus in college. She always talked to me about how the Holy Spirit is a gentleman. Oh yeah, I've heard people say that and I really appreciate that. I actually view the Holy Spirit more like a woman, a gentle woman. But that's beside the point. The Holy Spirit is not like pushy, you know. It's like. It's kind of like.

Speaker 1 4:03

I think of it when I think of trauma, informed language. It's invitational, like these angels are. They need to be invited. So, kat, a fun exercise, if you wish, might be to invite your angels and the client's angels to assist during the next few sessions. Set the intention that the massage would be for the highest good of you and the client and see what happens. I did this during a Reiki class I was assisting. I asked the instructor about inviting angels and she looked at me funny and shrugged. Sure, during the attunements, when students all had their eyes closed, several felt a presence around them and opened their eyes. No one there. Several felt a presence around them and opened their eyes no one there.

Speaker 2 4:48

The instructor asked me not to do that anymore oh, listen, I I understand being the most woo-woo in the space, so I am with you, girl. I am with you, yes another thing.

Speaker 1 5:01

There are levels of angels who can become physical temporarily to help without our asking. Like saving someone from a fall from a building, puts them down gently and disappears around the corner. What, yeah? Or save someone after a car wreck and vanishes. It is as hard, according to alicia, for them to become physical as it is for us to become invisible and, according to her, the Maasai tribe can do it. Another rabbit hole to go down. Headed back to my biscuits and finishing your episode, just had to say hi.

Speaker 2 5:38

I just want to say a big thank you for sending that in, because there's a lot to unpack here yes, including the biscuits. Um, I have heard of the Messiah, I think. Um, I know that this person has heard of Bashar, so it makes me happy. We have found our people yes.

Speaker 2 5:56

Bashar has spoken about the Messiah. I mean, I feel like we have become like Joe Rogan overnight, uh, as far as conspiracy theories and stuff, um, but I love what she describes here because I had, uh I've had, encounters like she's talked about. The one that she said, and she did say at one point, I may have these backwards, but the one she describes is behind your right shoulder works more in a physical realm. No, sorry, the emotional problems blending their energy to calm you. One time I was in London at this charismatic conference Don't ask Codependency, that's all.

Speaker 2 6:41

Somehow I and uh, all of these people around me were, uh, doing what they might call giving high praise to the Lord, which just simply means going bat shit crazy, like standing on chairs, and I would not stand on a chair and I was the only one not standing on a chair, and I'm not going to do anything that I don't feel is very authentic to me, right, or that's me in my best state, and I am not going to perform. That's one thing you won't get from me and I, just I, I almost felt angry in that moment, like I remember thinking, like I feel so much pressure to do something that I'm not comfortable doing.

Speaker 2 7:19

And I was having this real dissonance, I was having this pain in my back and I was like, what is this? And no kidding, I felt a hand on my back and, uh, to this day I don't know what that is, but it literally took away the anxiety and the physical pain that I was having. So, uh, and I've also heard what she said that it takes a lot of energy for them to come into the physical realm, as it would us to be able to go into that, their realm, and I've learned that that's like different levels of because they're at such a high frequency compared to where we are on Earth.

Speaker 1 7:56

Yeah, I mean that's that's really neat. And I think it's really neat. I remember you telling me about the hand on your back thing. Like I remember that story from a long time ago and and it just kind of makes me wonder you talking about there being like a dissonance with what was going on and what was quote unquote expected of you in that moment and what you were and were not willing to do. Yeah, it makes me kind of wonder was that hand representative of your highest self?

Speaker 2 8:29

Oh yes, I mean, that feels very possible and very true, honestly.

Speaker 1 8:35

Like was that hand going? Thank you for listening to your body.

Navigating Comfort Zones and Authenticity

Speaker 2 8:40

Thank you for not acquiescing to this you know, like, okay, so let me go a step further, okay. Later the pastor was like prophesying over people in the separate session and I stepped out of the room because I was so uncomfortable with what was happening. And again, it's not that I don't believe that people have the spirit none of that, trust me but for me it was becoming too much and I am a very sensitive person, and so I went to the bathroom. When I came back in, I stood in the back and no joke. I knew that this pastor was going to go from the very front of the church to find me. It happens all the time. Where the light is brighter, the bugs are bigger.

Speaker 2 9:28

And this guy came and went to put his hands on my neck and I said no, and I put my hand out and I said no, and I think he was very surprised, but I just I was like I don't need you to put your hands on my body, like that's exactly how I felt. So, to your point, I think, yes, that was my authentic self, simply saying I'm not comfortable with what you're dishing out right now.

Speaker 1 9:49

Yeah, and that's okay. Yeah, it is okay, and I just want to celebrate that. Like I have a friend who is so good at that that it seems effortless for her. Yeah, like, if she's not okay with something, you're going to know it, and I'm not always that way and I'm not that way either.

Speaker 2 10:07

I would rather keep the peace most of the time, but there is a line you hit where you're like. Why am I allowing that? I mean, we all have those lines where you're like, right. I'm not comfortable with this. Why am I not speaking up?

Speaker 1 10:21

Right, right, and I just think it's been really neat to have for me, like people in my life who don't seem to have as hard of a time with that as I do, because I'm going like, well, how, how are you able to do that so easily? And it's like, well, really, the only difference other than training oneself to be this way, if you're not naturally this way, the only difference is just being willing to do it. Yeah, because you know what Everybody around you is fine. Does it make it awkward for a moment? Maybe, maybe. Does it make somebody feel like I did something wrong? Maybe, but is that any worse than you feeling terrible, right, and my question to you.

Speaker 2 11:08

I want to tell you what I think the answer is, but I am not going to. I would like for you to have your own agency and your own autonomy. Why are you afraid to do that? Because, um, I'm curious if our answers are the same.

Speaker 1 11:31

I'm curious if our answers are the same. Um, I, I'm, as we all know, I'm very relational. I'm very I really enjoy people, I care about people. I, I want people to um, have the space to be their most authentic and wonderful and beautiful self, and so that is all very like other facing. That's not me facing, yeah, so so to me it's like. My initial answer is it's like well, because I want other people to be comfortable. But the more I think about it, I really want other people to be more comfortable, because then I feel like I can be more comfortable more comfortable, because then I feel like I can be more comfortable.

Speaker 2 12:11

Oh interesting, can you give me a scenario? Like you don't have to give specifics, but like this is what that could look like.

Speaker 1 12:18

Okay, I go into a classroom setting where I'm going to go take a class and there's a handful of seats available and a handful of seats taken in the seat that I would really much prefer to be in. Doesn't really work for me. Like it did, like you know, it's like there's somebody there, whatever, whatever, and so I will just like immediately go like you're fine, sit over there, it's going to work out great. Like it's going to work out fine. And some would say, like, well, that's a complete denial of self, that's not taking care of yourself, and it's like, well, does it really matter where I sit, you know? And so like to me, it's like I think, like I'm gonna make the whole room more comfortable your face.

Speaker 2 13:04

Even I know that. Like, yeah, like, why doesn't everyone understand that you are making them more comfortable?

Speaker 1 13:13

right, yeah, yeah, and it's like, well, is that really for them, or is that for me?

Guardian Angels Among Us

Speaker 2 13:18

well, I think it's also like a social response that we always talk about too, because mine is very similar. When I find myself doing that, where I'm like denying myself whatever it is that maybe I want, or if somebody asks if I have a preference, often I'll be like I'm open, I really can do anything similar, like I know what it's like to see people be the problem child and I don't want to be the problem child.

Speaker 1 13:49

Yeah me either.

Speaker 2 13:51

And I'm also in a very efficient person. So like I don't want to have a 30 minute conversation about where we're having dinner or lunch, or a meeting. I just want, let's make a decision and let's do the thing yeah.

Speaker 1 14:03

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 14:05

But I? It is hard for me to share my preferences. Often I mean, I have them, I know what they are, that's the thing. Some people don't know what their preferences are. Right, I just am like I I'd rather us wrap this thing up.

Speaker 1 14:22

Right, right, and I think that like I have them preferences, that is, I think they are so sometimes very inaccessible Because I just I choose to to go like, in the grand scheme of all the things, I don't care if we eat at McDonald's or Burger King, like I don't, like I really don't care.

Speaker 2 14:47

I'm more concerned that those are your two options.

Speaker 1 14:51

I knew when it came out of my mouth I was like well, both of these are bad ideas.

Speaker 2 14:54

I was gonna say I know you eat better than that. Yeah for sure. Okay, back to the angels. Have you encountered an angel?

Speaker 1 15:04

I, yes. Are you going to tell us about it? I will, if you would like to hear about it.

Speaker 2 15:14

My preference is for you to tell me about this.

Speaker 1 15:17

So I got to be a part of a really cool thing called the World Meeting of Families in Philadelphia yeah, it was Philadelphia, I think. And then we also went to New York City and this is several, several years ago, way pre-COVID, and I met a gentleman who was a part of how we got to do this whole event, who wrote me a story and put it in an envelope and gave it to me to read later and I was like that's kind of different. Different, like what in the world is this? And his story, um, was basically like when you see a feather, know that your guardian angel is nearby. And I remember his story and how he arrived there and how that became his truth was so impactful to me that I thought you know what, next time I see a feather, I'm going to assume that that is a signal that my, my guardian angel is nearby.

Speaker 1 16:12

And that night I got on the tour bus to, you know, to leave the city and go to the next thing and one of my business cards fell out of my purse and my logo for my business at the time was a feather. Oh yeah, whoa. And so I was like could this be that literal, like could this be that on point? And so ever since then I just kind of felt like that's legit. Like that's legit when I come across a feather, I'm just going to take that as a signal that my guardian angel and now that I know that I have two, it's like I'm going to take that as a signal that my guardian angel and now that I know that I have two, it's like I'm going to take that as a signal that they are around.

Speaker 1 16:53

And like the other day I went and took the trash out and right by my trash can there was a pigeon feather and I was just like really yeah. And I was like I don't, I don't know why I need my guardian angels right now taking the trash out and I welcome you, like I'm very glad that you're here. So, yes, those are, those are what I consider um experiences with angels. I have not physically seen an angelic looking, being like looking after me or taking care of me or whatever. How about you?

Speaker 2 17:22

well, recently I this must have been the summer I uh went with a friend to what I found online was called a kite festival and I thought how cool would that be just to sit in a park and watch these people flying these kites. Well, I get there and I've got both of my dogs, and there's not a person with a kite, there's a family reunion and something else. I have no idea. It was a beautifully hot day, and so I met my friend at the park and I asked her uh, will you walk one of the dogs, whatever? And so she's got a dog, I've got a dog and, um, it is 95 degrees cat in this park. This gentleman is walking and I'm not even kidding you, he looks like somebody who has one of those old school watches in his pocket. What are those called Pocket watch? How about that?

Speaker 1 18:23

Really smart.

Speaker 2 18:24

Pocket watch and he's basically in what a three piece suit would be without the jacket, but he's way too dressed up to be at this park.

Speaker 2 18:34

We're all wearing shorts and flip-flops, hot as can be. And you know my dogs, they go crazy anytime someone approaches them because they're crazy rescues. And no joke, kat, he's walking towards and I was like telling my friend Ruthie, I'm like hold him tight, hold him tight. You know both dogs sit down and let him come up to him, which they're afraid of, men. What? And I am in shock by this. He tells us his name and says good morning and looks directly at me and I could have the chills right now thinking about it and I was like good morning.

Speaker 2 19:14

I was like they never act this good. They're both rescues and I'm like sorry, I'm kind of in awe that they're being so good and he was so kind to me and my friend. And then he walked off and then, as we were leaving, he looped around the other way. I didn't see him the whole time we were at the park. He looped around the other way and made another and said goodbye to us and both me and my friend were like that was so different. It wasn't like a creepy guy that was. It was so different that we both felt like he was an angelic being. I don't know, I can't relate it to anything good or bad that happened or anything like that, but it felt like that sort of encounter.

The Journey of Learning and Discovery

Speaker 1 19:54

I feel like I really want producer Sarah to fade in here. Entertaining angels by the light of my TV stream 24-7.

Speaker 2 20:06

Do you remember that news voice? Yes, yes, I'd change the screen 24-7. You remember that newsboy? Yeah, if you don't know what we're talking about, we have some trauma from working in a Christian music industry. We also have some joy.

Speaker 1 20:17

A lot of joy, like that song in particular. We have amazing careers.

Speaker 2 20:20

Yes, and that was a newsboy song from 90. Look it up, kat.

Speaker 1 20:27

What year? I bet it's 98 98. I bet it's 97 or 98 and I will say that it is one of my sister's favorite songs oh, really, yeah, you know, probably one of my sisters too.

Speaker 2 20:37

She was a huge fan. Um, okay, I want to just small commercial break here. Guys, the messiah people that our dear listener mentioned, just gonna give you a little nugget, because that's what we do, we like. This is from Wikipedia. The Maasai people are an ethnic group inhabiting northern, central and southern Kenya and northern Tanzania near the African Great Lakes region. Ok, they speak. I don't know. Yeah, this may not be the people she's talking about. So cut all of that, sarah. I really thought I was going to educate, but I'm like no, this isn't what this is. Okay, so we'll report back on the Maasai people.

Speaker 1 21:16

Yes, we will, because I will have to do a deep dive, like I have begun the very shallow tiptoes into the water of a deep dive about human design. Do you know about this?

Speaker 2 21:32

No, but I just picture, if this is the water here, you doing this with your toes into the water. Oh is it warm or is?

Speaker 1 21:41

it cold, I'm frolicking in the surface waters of what is called human design and I am literally frolicking for the first time. So I have almost nothing.

Speaker 2 21:54

We are not an educational podcast or a fact podcast and this thing called human design.

Speaker 1 22:01

You can put in your name, your birth date, your time of birth, your place of birth name, your birth date, your time of birth, your place of birth and much like when you get an astrology chart. From doing that, you get this thing that looks like one of my like acupressure posters. It's got like all these like different like points in the body and it's got like pathways and channels and stuff like that and it basically delineates you into one of five types of being like as a human. You're either a manifestor, a manifestor generator, a projector, et cetera, et cetera. And I was like I can't wait to tell Moose and producer Sarah about this because we have yet one more layer to add on top of all of our enneagram myers-briggs astrology. You know the whole nine yards.

Speaker 2 22:55

So human design, human. Okay, I'm looking, I I'm all wikipedia again, guys, so hoping this goes well. It's a pseudo scientific. I love anything that's pseudo scientific pseudo scientific new age practice, described as a holistic self-knowledge system. It combines astrology, the Chinese I Ching oh, I love the I Ching Judaic Kabbalah, judaic Kabbalah, vedic philosophy and modern physics. I mean, wow, right, isn't that?

Speaker 1 23:34

so neat? Oh, show us, this is mine.

Speaker 2 23:39

What in the world? This is cool, isn't that neat. You're a manifesting generator. What does that mean? I don't know yet. Oh, of course, your inner authority is your sacral, isn't that down in your junk?

Speaker 1 23:53

Yes.

Speaker 2 23:55

Oh, I mean you could have seen Scorpio right there and put that down. Oh, I totally offended a Scorpio today. I thought I was okay, and I was like oh, hips forward. And they were like I wouldn't consider myself a hips forward gal. And I was like well, maybe you're not a Scorpio. Oh, they didn't actually say that. They, their face, said that I was going to say what, what actually happened.

Speaker 1 24:20

Yeah, I said that I was embarrassed and their face said wow, that was a lot, and I thought that was a lot and their face said wow, that was a lot, and I thought that was a lot, but that is who I am, is a lot. Well, you, I, I, I mean, I think that you identify yourself as a lot, um, but I don't think everyone experiences you as a lot. Okay, good.

Speaker 2 24:40

So okay, so human design you what it. It says here that you were a manifesting generator. Do we know what that is?

Speaker 1 24:50

yeah, I looked up some definitions earlier and, like I said, I have been frolicking in the shallow waters.

Speaker 2 24:57

That's fine we, you know what we are? A curiosity podcast. Yes, yes, and so we just give you little facts. It's really up to you, as the listener, to get the degree. Yes, yes, we're just teasing you with fun information.

Speaker 1 25:14

And, to be honest, it might just be that I'm being a manifesting generator by bringing this up. And then, you know, the projectors of the world can go and teach everybody about it and become wonderful leaders and educators and stuff like that.

Speaker 2 25:29

I must be a manifesting generator to that.

Speaker 1 25:31

Yeah, I, I have a feeling that you're a manifester, but I, you know, I don't know.

Speaker 2 25:36

I do love to manifest. Listen, you guys, we just have to call our angels in to manifest this stuff. I do believe that prayer and manifestation. I have heard we have talked about this. If you can visualize it in your brain, it is as good as you creating it. You just have to put the work in what I know that part's hard. What is it that you're learning right now in your life? You?

Speaker 1 26:05

just rolled your eyes About what I'm learning in my life. I don't know if that's what the eye roll was for. It was Because learning is hard. It is hard, yes, and I'm like much like you. I'm a perpetual student. I love to be in classes. I love to be in classes. I love to be in school. I love to learn things. I have a harder time when the learning requires me to change my behavior.

Speaker 2 26:39

Me too. Yeah, yeah it's a whole thing.

Speaker 1 26:43

Yeah, I do this thing, and someone who pointed it out to me was so, so gracious in the way that they pointed it out is. They said, kat, you kind of do this for a living. So the fact that you did this, I'm not mad at you about it, because I think it's like second nature for your. I ended up telling this person it's second nature for me. And wait, you got to give us more details. I will, yeah, yeah, yeah, I will, I will. So, basically, um, I I kind of got somebody out of having to do something that I thought they didn't want to do.

Speaker 1 27:16

Yeah, natural instinct, I do this for my clients all the time, not my massage clients, but like my music clients. You know, it's like I have to decline a lot on their behalf, a lot, and it's not because they're bad people, it's because, like, based in all of the priorities in life and and all of that kind of stuff, it's like you just can't say yes to everything and so, um, so I just made an assumption I mean sort of educated assumption, but still an assumption like, hey, I'm just going to get this person out of this by, like going and taking care of it and just not even, and it made the person really uncomfortable.

Speaker 2 27:53

Oh, they didn't want you to. Oh, I've done this before. All of a sudden it just hit my funny bone and I was like, oh, that is painful.

Speaker 1 28:01

So what's, what's the funny bone? Feeling like how did that make you feel?

Speaker 2 28:06

Sick to my stomach. Yeah, this is the same as when my therapist said to me, what are you trying to do for this person? And I said I'm trying to protect them. Remember that and she goes what if they don't want to be protected? Amen, and I yes, I threw up, I shit my pants, I I was like, who doesn't want to be protected?

Speaker 1 28:29

Yeah, yeah, and, and so that's what I'm learning right now is that it's like just an awareness in my life of like, just because I think I'm doing you a favor, just because I think I'm, I'm doing something that is helpful to you, it's not, I don't immediately have permission to do that, and not only do I not have permission to do it, it might hurt you, it might offend you, like it might be a problem for me to intervene, and it's like, oh, my gosh like what a lesson right.

Speaker 2 29:01

Okay, so we've been talking about the change of season and things we're learning. You are describing letting things go, which is what we've been talking about. How lovely, and the one thing I have on my list here I'm learning to let things, let go of things.

Speaker 1 29:20

Really yeah.

Speaker 2 29:23

That is so cool. I mean, this is the season Like, yeah, you can let go of what you think anyone else might be needing, which is hard for an Enneagram too.

Speaker 1 29:34

Yes, yes, I think it's hard for most humans. Yeah, no, I agree, I mean there's there's some that it's like, actually I don't give a shit, like, but like, for most I think I think. Yeah, I think that's really hard, I do too. Um, can you give me an example of your, your lessons in, in learning to let go?

Speaker 2 29:54

Yeah, I am a perpetual student, as you said, and I also love a challenge as an Enneagram eight. Um, however, I just read somewhere I've never heard this before Don't let Enneagram eights get bored because they get into trouble. And so I. My kind of trouble as a 46 year old looks more like signing myself up for things that, uh, overcommit me. And so I let go of a, of a dream to go back to school and be a counselor and I finally let it.

Speaker 2 30:36

I let it into the, into the river and let it float away out of my sight, and made the decision that the path I'm on with podcasting and with coaching and my whole career doing radio promotion, that that's enough for right now. And so it was a really like ritualistic, um, kind of honoring process when I made that decision. And then I had immediate peace about it and I thought letting go of that was going to be like something I had to grieve, and it actually felt a lot like release because I was holding onto it so tightly, like I have to do this before I die, I have to get this degree before I die, and, um, I don't know like I just it. Literally, I can tell you it was like putting a little paper boat into the river and just letting it go wherever else it needed to go, but it wasn't meant to stay with me. Wow, wow.

Speaker 1 31:35

That's so beautiful and, as someone who loves you very dearly and has loved you for a very long time, that makes me so happy. Time that makes me so happy, like I love that. Like such an important letting go felt like letting a paper boat float down the river, like that makes me so happy for you. Congratulations on knowing what you needed to do and doing it.

Speaker 2 32:00

That's awesome yeah, and my old self that is so competitive and not even competitive. I wouldn't even call myself competitive. I hold myself to like high standards of like I want to achieve this, Like I do, like that, Um, my old self would have been like you know what. It's going to take a lot of time and there's going to, but you're going to get through. It's all about just surviving and getting through. You know, it's like this little kid that thinks she's in a war all the time and you're like you just need a nap, boo, you know, like you need a nap. And so, yeah, there was some sadness and letting that dream go, but I also. The piece was just so clear and so, um, I have a piece of advice for everyone.

Speaker 2 32:45

Uh, I just got off the phone with a friend who was changing jobs and it feels like a very scary thing for them, but also very exciting. And the thing they said is you know, I just have a lot of peace about it and that's something that we throw around a lot, but also, like follow the peace. You know, like the peace is where it's at, Like excitement comes and goes, but when you're like this feels really good, I'm in the flow, Like pay attention to what and who. That is because you know there's so many moments of our day that aren't necessarily that and I know we can't get rid of all the chaos. But like, if you're making a hard decision, like, look for the peace Cause, even if it is a hard decision, it might be the right one.

Speaker 1 33:29

And one thing that I've noticed is that a lot of times the peace, the feeling of peace, it has all these little minions around it who go not peace, not peace, not peace, you know, and it's like wait a minute, I thought I felt peace, but then I had all these little and I think those are like ego minions that are like not peace, you know, and it's like, wait a minute, I thought I felt peace, but then I had all these little and I think those are like ego minions that are like not okay, not okay, not okay. You must be a PhD and an MD and a CE and a blah, blah, blah, blah, you know, and it's like, oh my God, like where did the peace go? I thought I just had it Exactly.

Speaker 2 34:08

Like the voices and all the parts definitely come in. And one of the things I had to sit with myself on when I was making this decision is why is it so important for me to say that I have I'm an EDS and counseling? Why is that important for me? And I had to come to terms with. I am always looking for something to validate that I am enough, whether that's in a career, which this would be, or it's in my own personal life. I always think people have picked the wrong person, you know, and that's not me and my truest self. That's like all the little kid trauma stuff. But ultimately, like I think, well, if I have this degree, then everybody will come to me. And here's the reality. I don't really want anyone coming to me. I had to come to terms with that too. Like, oh, actually I love what I get to do. Um, anyway, there's lots and lots of reasons, but it did really hit me when it came down to like because this was true at one point doesn't mean it's always true.

Speaker 1 35:09

Yes, oh, lord, yes, isn't that the truth? Man, like Moose, you are dropping some serious wisdom this week. Thank you, I wanted to know if you could give me some girly advice.

Speaker 2 35:26

Oh, please tell me, I doubt it. Is it about how to curl your hair?

Speaker 1 35:30

Can you see, is that?

Speaker 2 35:32

a zit.

Speaker 1 35:34

Yes. Oh, I'll tell you what the kids are doing? Okay, tell me what the kids are doing, because this hurts.

Speaker 2 35:41

Yeah Well, first of all, is it herpes? That is the first question.

Speaker 1 35:45

No, no, no, no, it is a full-on, it is a zit, it is not a cold sore, okay, no it's not a cold sore.

Speaker 2 35:52

I'm not shaming anyone with herpes at all, just needed to know what we're working with. Okay, so the first thing you need to do is go on to instacart, because I know you're not going to go to walgreens, but if you choose to go to Walgreens, they have these little tiny star things that the girls, and probably boys, maybe everyone puts on their zits, and now you'll see these podcasters in their thirties and forties and they just have stars all over their face, and so you make it like a whole fashion thing, and so you just need a little bright orange star on your lip like, and then it'd be like hey, girl, hey yeah, exactly, and if you could give like a little wink so they think you're super creepy.

Speaker 1 36:35

I don't think there's an age limit for the stars zit stickers watch me go on instacart and then be like are you 18 or younger? And I'm like no, and they're like you're canceled, like you're.

Speaker 2 36:46

You're embarrassing, you're an embarrassment to society it's like when, uh Gen Z said we know you're old if you don't part your hair in the middle. Oh, and I don't like I have a little bit of a side part and my hair won't part in the middle it literally has a cowlick and I was like, well, I'm just gonna embrace it yeah, yeah, you gotta embrace it.

Speaker 1 37:11

You have a great part thank you.

Speaker 2 37:16

Oh my god, that sounds dirty. Okay, uh, we gotta wrap this thing up. I do have one update on vera lydell um, the lunch lady who stole thousands and millions of chicken wings chicken wings. I dug a little deeper she's still in jail. We need to interview her. Still. I found out why she stole the chicken wings she has a gambling problem and she's really sorry she. She actually sold the chicken wings to fuel the gambling problem. So look, if you're on Facebook marketplace and you're still buying chicken wings that maybe she parceled out to different family members, you're as guilty as she is. So don't buy any chicken wings on Facebook marketplace.

Speaker 1 37:59

Good advice, man, because I was about to just hop off this podcast and go look at Facebook marketplace and get some chicken wings. I am so thankful for the warning.

Speaker 2 38:09

I will say this we do have a close friend who has introduced us to a lot of insane, like a cultural cuisine, who she has found on Facebook marketplace.

Speaker 1 38:22

Yeah, this is true, this is true.

Speaker 2 38:24

Like she found. Wasn't it Indian food that we came over and had one time? I was like I'm like eating it. And I was like where'd you get this? And she was like Facebook marketplace.

Speaker 1 38:33

Yes, yes, this, um, this woman who prepares Indian cuisine makes the best butter chicken that has ever been made in the entire world ever. And this lady lives almost equidistant between me and you moose. Oh really, I didn't know where she lived. Yeah, and she, she also offers cooking classes, so it's one of those things where like, oh yeah you tried to talk me into that and I was like nah, man, I yeah.

Speaker 2 39:02

I have been so lucky to not be kidnapped up to this point by me or just anybody anyone Like I watch a lot of true crime and like I am not going to someone else's house that I've met on Facebook marketplace, I'm not going to do it now. I clearly will eat food from someone that is on there, but you're like is this really chicken? So moral of the story? You're like is this really chicken?

Speaker 1 39:30

so moral of the story don't get chicken wings off a facebook marketplace, yes, but get butter chicken for sure, yeah for sure.

Speaker 2 39:34

Oh, one more thing we are praying for our friends in florida. Uh, as of right now, this will air on wednesday, october 9th. This will air on Wednesday, october 9th. Um, as of right now, hurricane Milton is a category five.

Speaker 1 39:50

We see Milton coming and.

Speaker 2 39:53

Milton is coming and he is a big boy.

Speaker 1 39:56

Big time prayers for everyone in Florida. Big time prayers from everyone still in the throes of recovering from Appalachia. Yes, yes, from Helene. Was it Heleneachia? Yes, yes, from Helene. Was it Helene Helene? Yeah, yeah, nuts, that a mountain town would be flooded. I know it's crazy.

Speaker 2 40:14

So we are praying for you. How about we all call on our angels and pray for Tampa and all of everyone that's been affected by these two hurricanes?

Speaker 1 40:23

Yes, yes, let's just blanket cover the entire Southeast. All of you Calling all angels, yes.

Speaker 2 40:31

All right, we love you guys. See you next week. Love you Bye. Special thanks to our producer, sarah Reed, to find out more, go to catandmoosepodcastcom. Cat and Moose is a BP Production.