Is Benjamin Your Name?
Healing from Trauma
End of the Story
“God Meant It unto Good”
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Have you ever experienced trauma within your family relationships? How do you respond when someone you love is choosing darkness over light?
In today’s episode, our hosts discuss healing from abuse (particularly within family), guilt vs. shame, being loving and understanding, and patriarchal blessings.
Invitation: If you haven’t received a patriarchal blessing, it’s not too late to get one. If you have received one, take time to study it and look at it with a new perspective.
Links to in-episode references:
Link to the David Thompson, LMFT, episode about mental health:
Link to Come Follow Me Through the Old Testament:
Real Talk is presented by Ganel-Lyn Condie and John Fossum.
On this week's real talk, we talk about getting through those trauma experiences and working towards forgiveness.John Fossum:
Yeah. And we spend a little bit of time on patriarchal blessings. Have you received one? And what does it mean?Ganel-Lyn Condie:
All that this week on Real Talk.John Fossum:
Hello, and thank you for joining us for another episode of Real Talk Come, Follow Me. Today we've finished up Genesis, we're studying-Ganel-Lyn Condie:
We're doing it a while, right?John Fossum:
42 through 50 are the chapters we're going to be diving into today. And we're going to have more opportunities to talk about some real, somewhat heavy issues like healing from abuse. The end of the story, though, is always happy, usually these stories and so hopefully that gives you some hope. And we're going to drop in a little bit of a patriarchal blessings in this episode. So excited to get into it.Ganel-Lyn Condie:
And chronologically, we're about 22 years since Joseph was sold into Egypt by his brother. So if you recall, like we we inserted and now we're, we're back. Right? So we had talked about all the trials last week, including being falsely accused and imprisoned, and then seeing his brothers again, right, we're gonna pick that up right here.John Fossum:
Well, I'd like to just recognize it just occurs to me, like, think of how he think about how he felt when he saw his brother's rise. Just think it's been a long time a lot of trauma has transpired. And then the moment comes.Ganel-Lyn Condie:
And it's, you know, to me, I think it's important that chapter 37 This is where it's fulfilled all the way into the chapter 42. Sometimes while we're reading the scriptures, it's like we're seeing full families go through their experience within one page, or living it though, that whole 22 years feels like it's dragging. And I think it's so crucial. So we're going to dive a little bit into that reunion. How about that?John Fossum:
I'm ExcitedGanel-Lyn Condie:
Okay, so do you want to set this up at all? Because we're in Genesis 42. And this is a moment where right verse 11, we are all one man sons, and we are true men and thy servants are no spies, right? In this situation. They're the brothers are coming back, right and famine in the land, right? And there and there's, they're needing some food.John Fossum:
hello, Jesus symbol again, right? We're starving, there's only one place in all the land that can provide the sustenance we need. Joseph...Ganel-Lyn Condie:
the bread, the waterJohn Fossum:
In Egypt, they have to go now to Joseph for their well being for their survival.Ganel-Lyn Condie:
And we're wondering, have their brothers changed much, because once again, the Savior is offering the grace to all of us, and none of us are worthy and hear his brothers have really messed things up. But did they? Did they?John Fossum:
They don't recognize them. And so he's trying to gauge these same questions you're asking?Ganel-Lyn Condie:
Yes. Have they changedJohn Fossum:
Have they changed? Or are they still the guys that seriously wanted to kill me, but settled with selling me into slavery?Ganel-Lyn Condie:
And I'm going to pose a question that I don't necessarily know if I have the answer for but I think it's a great opportunity to have a conversation about guilt versus shame. And we've talked about it before. But in verse 21, it said, we are very guilty concerning our brother, in that we saw the anguish of his soul when he B saw us, and we would not hear therefore, in this distress come upon us. So are they feeling guilt? Which is a change of behavior, motivator? Or are they still in some shame? They say guilty, but shame is right. I'm bad. Guilt is I don't like the decision I made and I want to make a change in my behavior. What are your thoughts?John Fossum:
Well, if you haven't seen already, our real talk friends episode with David Thompson, we encourage you watch that. He's a therapist. And if for no other reason, you'll get an hour of free therapy. By watching that episode.Ganel-Lyn Condie:
For RealJohn Fossum:
Yeah, he has some good stuff. But in that episode, we kind of wrestled a little bit with the difference between guilt and shame. Super important. And Joseph's brothers here, are they in guilt or are they in shame?Ganel-Lyn Condie:
are they ready to say like, we see where we did wrong, and we're ready to change or we are horrible.John Fossum:
So I want to look at Judah, and maybe make an argument for him being in guilt, coming out of shame. And he really just wants to change now.Ganel-Lyn Condie:
And he's had some other experiences.John Fossum:
I mean, again, if you've been studying the chapters from from week to week, you know, Judah. Up and down, he goes with his progression back to God. Like the rest of us, I would say in Genesis 43. Judah is standing with his brothers right before Joseph and they don't know This is Joseph. They just think it's second. Oh, he's he's not there yet. So he's, he's actually talking in this case to his father. Before right there goes. Take let me take Ben back with me right and his dad like you ain't taking Benjamin to Egypt like learn what happened last time with Joseph you know so obviously their dad...