Blue Angel Phantoms

Inside the Rivalry: Blue Angels vs Thunderbirds

Ryan Nothhaft

Inside the Rivalry: Blue Angels vs. Thunderbirds

What really separates the U.S. Navy Blue Angels from the U.S. Air Force Thunderbirds? In this exclusive episode, we dive deep into the history, aircraft, training, team culture, and yes—a bit of the friendly rivalry—between America’s premier flight demonstration teams.

Joining me are two pilots who lived it:
🔵 Matt Seamon, Blue Angels Pilot (1989–1991)
🔴 Mike “Mo” Beale, Thunderbirds Pilot (1990–1991) and President of the Thunderbird Alumni Association

Together, they share never-before-heard stories, unique insights on what makes each team special, and personal reflections on how their time on the teams shaped their lives.

Topics Covered:

  • Aircraft differences (F/A-18 vs. F-16)

  • Why the Blue Angels don’t wear G-suits

  • Support aircraft: Fat Albert vs. Thunderbird 14

  • Team training in El Centro & Nellis

  • Solo pilot life, formation flying, and team philosophy

  • Behind-the-scenes banter and a few epic pranks

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