In the episode Mike and Pete talk about the BMW E46, especially the E46 M3. Mike talks about his BMW i8 and how the Active Sound Design works on the outside of the hybrid supercar. With 357 horsepower the BMW i8 may seem under powered on paper but overall it's a pretty quick car. Mike also talks about burble tunes and the unique and identifiable exhaust sound of the iconic BMW S54 engine. At 3.2 liters the S54 put out 333hp and at the time was one of the first production engines to produce more than 100hp per liter in a normally aspirated engine.
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In the episode Mike and Pete talk about the BMW E46, especially the E46 M3. Mike talks about his BMW i8 and how the Active Sound Design works on the outside of the hybrid supercar. With 357 horsepower the BMW i8 may seem under powered on paper but overall it's a pretty quick car. Mike also talks about burble tunes and the unique and identifiable exhaust sound of the iconic BMW S54 engine. At 3.2 liters the S54 put out 333hp and at the time was one of the first production engines to produce more than 100hp per liter in a normally aspirated engine.
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spk_0: 0:10
Welcome to the auto ish podcast with Mike and Pete. A Mike as a going
spk_1: 0:16
It's going great, man here in ready for another episode.
spk_0: 0:21
Yeah, absolutely lots going on in the automotive world. Ah, we got brands coming out with completely new logos and branding. We have interesting numbers as far as the car market, nationally and regionally. But with all that going on, I don't talk about any of it. I
spk_1: 0:41
don't want to. I want to talk
spk_0: 0:43
about, um What's age? The best. What age? The worst, right? That's that's something that we've gone into a little bit.
spk_1: 0:50
Oh, yeah, I like that segment.
spk_0: 0:53
And, um, you know, I'm new to BMWs. We established early on, you had mentioned something. The e 46 and
spk_1: 1:04
yeah, probably my absolute favorite BMW chassis.
spk_0: 1:08
Okay, so you're gonna have toe get into it. Let's deep dive into the BMW E 46. Why was that? The car that you picked?
spk_1: 1:20
Wow. Okay. Um, that's Ah, that may take a little bit, but, uh, we'll get right into it. So in Ah, 1999 BMW introduced the 46 which really just changed the entire game in that, um luxury sports segment or sports sedan. Let's call it I think that's really what the segment is, but, um, and just really took over that whole game, and and the E 36 prior to the 46 was a good car. It was a good car for BMW. Um, the brand did well with it. Made a lot of whom did well in Europe is Well, um, but the E 46 was really a game changer in way ahead of its time. The ah, the suspension had aluminum components in it, so the unstrung weight was really low. I don't want to get too technical there, but it allowed the car to handle extremely well without having a very stiff suspension, which was probably the, you know, the main reason that they went with that technology. But, um, it made the car handle really well. It had a an almost perfect weight balance of 50 50 front and rear, which made the car super well balanced in the turns. Um, and they just they came out with a whole lot of technology at the time. The ah engine was an in line six cylinder here in the US anyway came out in a to 32 a. M. Sorry. 3 23 I and ah. Later they turned that into a 3 25 and a 3 30 in a three 28. There was a few different engine variants that came out through there. Um, and then it had a face lift, I think in 2000 and two, just a really well made car. And to this day, people still seek them out. Looking for e 46 is that are that are clean or in good shape because they're just such a great driving car. Um, but probably my favorite E 46 is the M three. And at the time here in the in the US that car didn't show up until 2000 and one was a 2001 model year, I believe. And, um, we had a waiting list. I was selling BMWs At that time. I was on the sales floor and we had ah, wait list for the M three. A lot of people knew it was coming out. Um, it had an in line six cylinder, was a 3.2 leader with 333 horse. It was a very high revving engine. Didn't have his whole lot of torque. Um, at least not down low. But it was a very fast car and had a very unique sound to it. The the engine was in s 54 and, um, just a very iconic car.
spk_0: 4:05
So you mentioned the sound, right? Everyone always talked about engine notes and kind of you can go on YouTube and look, just listen to a little seven
spk_1: 4:13
seconds. There's thousands of videos, um, of the S 54. So what? What, am
spk_0: 4:18
I looking forward? Right. You hear something? You know, it sounds cool. What should I be looking for when I hear something like that? Like what?
spk_1: 4:25
What is probably the most identifiable sound? Oven s 54 is that it has a rasp in the exhaust, especially at the high end at the upper rpm range. And some people didn't like that. Some some people thought that it sounded kind of tinny. And that raspy nous was, um, you know, unnecessary or they didn't like it. Um, I I found it extremely identifiable and cool. And, um, race cars with the S 54 I'm just sound unbelievable on the track. Um, and ah, with ah with a custom exhaust on that on one of those cars, it just sounds glorious.
spk_0: 5:08
So when you ask a stupid question, your if you're listening to this, you probably know the answer, but the popping in the crackling that you hear a lot what is that?
spk_1: 5:17
That's that's a little more current. Okay, that that, um that burble on d so that that kind of what you're
spk_0: 5:24
that sounds dry branches. That a French
spk_1: 5:26
word? Yes, it's very French, actually. Yeah, I speak French. If you knew that, um, the type of Kristen, um, it's ah, it's become more common recently. Um, there's tuners out there that make this make burbles on decell and overrun when you're up shifting. BMW started to do that as well on the on the newer cars. And that's a That's a sound. Typically, you get in a race car on decell coming into a turn, you let off the gas. Um, generally, it's extra fuel that that dumps into the exhaust that's not totally burned, and it fires in the exhaust. Interested ignites in the in the exhaust or in the in the headers or, um, you know something after the actual cylinder itself. So, um and, you know, it sounds cool, and and now they manufacture that sound into newer cars. I mean, BMW, the X three m in particular, um, stars, SUVs goes, has that sound kind of baked into it? If you Ah, if you put the transmission in certain modes, it'll it'll force. That's pretty cool.
spk_0: 6:41
So I was gonna ask you. So they pump that through the speakers, right?
spk_1: 6:47
Well ah, certain BMWs to have active sound. Ah, pumped into the car. Thea, the M five has active sound. Um, some of the newer three Siri's cars Probably the first and most notable. Um, active sound is Theo. I ate and the I eight has a three cylinder turbocharged engine in the rear and electric motor up front. And to make it sound cool, there's actually a speaker on the outside of the car which is making fake exhaust noise outside. So people who are hearing the car outside um, I think it sounds cool, and really, they had to do that because you can't make a three cylinder engine sound cool. It's impossible. So to have $150,000 car with the cool doors and the whole bit sounds weak and sound like a motorcycle. Like every cylinder. Motorcycle is not cool, so they have an active speaker outside. It's in ah, in a metal housing like an exhaust. It looks like a muffler that has to wires going to it. It's on the opposite side of the actual muffler, and it's got a speaker inside of it. It's literally got two wires that run to it. And there's an active sound module in the back of the car that interprets engine speed and rpm's and determines what it should sound like. A that point, and it pumps it into a speaker that comes out of the out of an exhaust pipe in the back. That's crazy. It actually sounds pretty cool.
spk_0: 8:23
I didn't realize that it was located on the outside. I've heard of different manufacturers. Well, they're into the car.
spk_1: 8:28
Yeah, well, and the I eight has sound pumped into the car also, so it's coming through the speakers of the car on the inside so that it sounds cool to you inside as well. But to make it cool outside, there's actually speaker outside. And that's not the first car where that came out. Um, there's other cars on the market. The Maserati Ghibli, I believe, has an active sound set up on the outside of the car. And they sound cool, too.
spk_0: 8:54
Yeah. What are your personal feelings on it? Like
spk_1: 8:58
I like it.
spk_0: 8:58
You like it?
spk_1: 8:59
Yeah. I like it. I mean, I know it's it's not a purist, um, you know, side to be on, but it does sound cool, and it does add to the experience. And I think that's what it's all about. It's about the experience, especially in an I eight. Um and I know you know this, but I had an I eight for ah, a little over two years, and I loved it. And I know that the sound is fake. It didn't matter. It was still cool. Still sounded cool. I still put in sport mode when I was driving around town, so it sounded cool outside. But But I really like the car and and I'm okay with that active sound. Who cares?
spk_0: 9:35
Yeah. Yeah. Um, well, people who have the I eat it seems like they're enthusiasts for it. Like they have it, and then they tend to love it.
spk_1: 9:45
Yeah. I mean, it took a lot of heat from the from the press in general. And I think, um, it really should have had more power. It looks like a powerful car. You have, but, you know, combined electric and gas horse powers 3 57 Um, you know, by today's standards, that's really not a lot. What the car had going forward, of course, was the electric motor was instant, so take off was, you know, was pretty quick. 0 to 60 was posted at 4.2 seconds. I can tell you the cars a lot faster than that. I have, Ah, a device called the Draghi that measure 0 to 60 via GPS. So it's very accurate. Um, and I was able to get maybe, like 3.83 point nine a couple times would launch mode active, which is quick. I mean, today's standards. It's quick. Um, I think a lot of people were surprised on the street. I think the old thought the car was slow because everybody talked about the fact that it only had 357 horsepower and the car slow, but it surprised a lot of people, I can tell you that.
spk_0: 10:47
Yeah, I think like from just a visual standpoint, it's quite a
spk_1: 10:52
It was beautiful. Yeah, it was a beautiful car and turned. It was impossible. Toe look good getting in or out of it even after 2.5 years or a little over two years. Um, I had mastered the entry, but I still had not mastered the exit. And there was just no easy way to get out of the car. The sill was really high. Ah, and and somewhat wide is while in the seats were super low in the in the frame. And, ah, you know, the doors didn't make it any easier. You didn't really have an easy thing to grab a hold of. You grab the door toe to pull yourself out, the door would come down, so you couldn't really use it to support your weight. Um, and it was funny, you know, my wife and I would laugh. We would pull up to a restaurant and everyone would, you know, check the car out. Especially early on. We first got it, cause I got it early. Um, and, uh, you'd open the doors and the doors I grew up in, people would just stop in their tracks, and then you try and get out. You look like a fool that was trying to get out of the car. We would
spk_0: 11:51
have about our role around to get out,
spk_1: 11:53
but it was cool. It's, You know, I'm not a real flashy person, so it it just worked out to be, Ah, you know, a good deal at the time and made sense at the time. Right? Um, but the first few commutes in the car, people around me videotaping me like driving by taking pictures, and I just thought it was really It was unusual cause, you know, being around him all the time in the showroom. I'm not going to say that. I didn't think it was a cool car that I didn't expect that. I guess I did a little bit. But I was really surprised at just how much attention that car
spk_0: 12:28
actually got. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Um, so where really talking about two cars, then? Right? And maybe two cars. That couldn't be more different.
spk_1: 12:39
Yeah, and I don't know yet. I mean, way went down the ah, you know, we got the I eight active sound, but right, um, active sound design, I think, is what BMW calls it. But, um, yeah, I can't say that the I eight is aged the best, though, right? And And, you know, for a number of reasons. Number one there their resale values dropped. It really plummeted. Um, and you can buy them today in the $130,000 range pretty easily with very low mileage. But I really don't think it's a car that anybody would want outside of warranty. So I think that's that's got an impact on it. But But if you want to look really cool for 60 grand, there's probably no
spk_0: 13:20
better cash, right? Yeah,
spk_1: 13:22
it's just amazing looking car.
spk_0: 13:24
Yeah. No, that that makes sense. And, um, there is a whole market out there for people that are looking for lower priced luxury cars for that appearance alone. That Oh, yeah, Doug demure adjusted a video on the, um, Porsche. Um, but what's the four door panamera? Yeah. Yeah. And now, like the price on that is, you can get them with low miles for like under 30 under 35.
spk_1: 13:51
Yeah, that sounds about right.
spk_0: 13:52
And, um, you know, he's like, you know, for that money, if you want a poor
spk_1: 13:57
it is a lesson that
spk_0: 13:58
the way to go um, you know, But it is an odd That's a nod. Body styling for that. I mean,
spk_1: 14:04
yeah, I never warmed up to that car, and I am a poor fan. Um, but that that car really hasn't done it for me.
spk_0: 14:11
Yeah. The the way that he was talking about it was basically saying that they tried to keep it in the the coop look. And by doing that, it just got kind of stretched An odd looking, especially from the side profile. It's gotten better over time, but that original it has it is it's a little weird.
spk_1: 14:34
Yeah, I think you know, the ah, the Audi A seven, which is the competitors and in a very similar coop styled four door, um, is a better looking car. Were aesthetically, I think I'm not saying it's a better cars. Better looking car. Um, but I I think and on own bias here, But the BMW Grand Coupe six Series grand coupe, which is also a four door sedan and coupe sedan. Style is a beautiful car compared to the Panamera. In terms of style, it's better than a seven or the Panamera. Um, and once again I'm not saying about her car just to me. It's a better looking car,
spk_0: 15:10
right? Yeah. Um, so let's let's jump back to the to the 46 a little bit and talking about, But I mean, let's go top of the body styling of that car, right? Because, I mean, that's a classic, iconic flagship look. That car's been in so many movies. And when I looked at BMW's, that was the 1st 1 that I looked for. Um, so, like, you know, body styling. Um, I mean, talk a little bit about some of the things that you like and that maybe BMWs carried on into some of their other cars from the 46.
spk_1: 15:40
Yeah, I think for me, and you know, I've said this to a few other people that when we're when we're all looking at any 46 if any 46 comes into the dealership, Um, and it's a nice example special. If it's an M three, um, news spreads quickly and you know it starts with one of the geniuses on the show and floor. Oh, there's a e 46 m three here and all, you know, seek me out in the dealership. And so there's any 46 year and we'll go outside and take a look at it and talk to the owner. And, um, you know, the one thing that I always say to people about the 46 it is classic, but to me it looks like a real BMW, and I'll try and explain that, I guess, if I can. But to me that looks like the classic, really well done design of a BMW. It's it's it's timeless. And, you know, it's hard to say that today, with the way BMWs going with the grill designs, they're getting larger and larger. So today, when you look at any 46 the grill looks tiny, but it fit the car. Yeah, it fit the car really well, and I just think the the overall design in particular the coop. It's just a beautiful car. Yeah, in the M three is probably, in my opinion, the best M three ever made, and I know I would take some heat for that from from some pure some BMW enthusiasts and purists. But who would most likely argue that the E 30 m three is the best M three ever made in terms of classic M threes? I disagree. Um, I am a huge E 30 fan, but the the E 46 has the power, the balance. Um, and it is just such a gorgeous car.
spk_0: 17:27
Yeah, absolutely. Um, so we talk about like, tech right in these cars. What are some of the tech high points or low points, for that matter in the 46? Are there any or is it just nice cause it's simple. I do find that when I get into the wagon year,
spk_1: 17:47
right, that is simple,
spk_0: 17:49
that simple. I can like six buttons. I got radio, I got a reconditioning. That's that's when I got That's what I'm working with. Um, so,
spk_1: 17:58
yeah, I guess in some ways how many buttons do you really need to drive to work? Were go out on a Sunday drive. You don't really need money. I think if I stay in the the M three conversation when it comes to you, 46 that the technology really was in the engine. The ah, that that 3.2 liter in line six. Um, it had Van knows, which is variable timing. So the camps had the ability to adjust their timing based on engine speed. Um, and, you know, a lot of car people would say, Oh, v Tak and Honda had v Tech. True early v tech, um, did change the timing at a certain rpm, but Banos was variable across the whole rpm range, so it made the car more efficient, produce more power. Um, and is just overall, um, just a better set up there. Ah, for a combination of both efficiency and horsepower and torque.
spk_0: 18:54
Yeah. Yeah. Um, So what came after the 46?
spk_1: 19:01
So after the 46 was the e 90 So the, um, e 90 chassis came out 2000 and six, and in 2006 they came out with the sedan and ah, that car was a little bigger. It was a little heavier. Um, it was ah, good car. Later in its in its generation, I think you know, six. They were still working some of the stuff out and the rial issue for the 90 was that it was competing with probably one of the best chassis has ever made right. And in 05 the the 46 had been perfected. They started with a great car in 99 in ah No. Five. Those if you find an 05 e 46 inches in great shape, even with high mileage, it was an awesome car so that to come out with with a new three Siri's, I think anything that they'd come out with would have come under scrutiny because the 46 is so loved. We're and so perfect in a lot of ways.
spk_0: 20:04
Yeah, maybe it's another very simple question here, but the number that 46 what is that referencing?
spk_1: 20:13
You know, I I'm really not sure I know the ah e designates the, you know, the timeframe. Basically, because now we're onto G. So we were from e toe after, and now we're currently in the G's. Um and I don't know if there's ah specific reason. I think they just said Okay, this this chassis is any 46 it was the, um, successor to the E 36 before the 36 2030. Um And at the same time, we had e 53 which was an X five in the in the early two thousands. 2000 2000 and five or 2006. Um, so there were different designations throughout that the the E 83 was the X three. So there was always ah, you know, ah, designation for chassis. And then we went toe afs and, um, after the e 93 Siri's, then we had the ah, the F 30 which was the, you know, the card. It came out in 2012 and that that car ran up until recently when we just want BMW released the geek class for the new three series That just came out nice. Um, so to answer your question, I really don't know. Yeah, I don't know if they just sit there and go, OK, Well, the next one's going to be, you know, G. Whatever. Right? You know, on. And I don't know how they came up with that 30. Not really. Sure,
spk_0: 21:40
Right. Right. Um, so things that they carry over as they go into these new, um, thes new versions of the car. I always find that interesting, like how design or engine or body styling, whatever gets carried over because you have certain things, especially with BMW, probably more than any other brand that are iconic to it. I mean, even it's brake lights right the way that they're laid out its iconic that grill is like but how it evolves. And we talked. We touched on that a little bit with the front grille getting bigger and bigger as the days go by. Yeah, much bigger, Um, but But that that's kind of the way that design is going right. You have a lot of manufacturers that have gone to that like floating rooftop kind of look, even on sedans, not just on SUV's, but even on sedans, which I'm not pick fan of. But you know, you're seeing more and more of that. So,
spk_1: 22:35
yeah, I think you know, even with the the newer versions of um, of the BMWs, we still see a Hofmeister kink in ah, in the body styles, which is the the rear 3/4 window of the sea Pillar should say, um so when you're looking at the profile, you'll see in the the back window, The last window of the car. Just kind of like a reverse hockey sick. Um, that's an iconic design or, ah, you know, a trait that's carried through, um, it it came from Ah, designers. Last name is Hoffmeister. Um, and they called it Hofmeister kink. And it started. I'm not even really sure what model it started with, but, um, but they've carried that through even to today. The dual or the twin kidney grilles has always been, you know, ah, identifiable trait. Tol BMWs. They are just getting larger and larger. Um, and I think I mentioned this in one of the other episodes when I saw the new M three and m four. They are changing the overall design of the kidney grilles, and there I almost want to call it a trap. Is oId It's not really really? Yeah, it's not really an oval ish or ah, you know, rounded corner, rectangular, whatever you want. Call the shape of the kidney grilles. But it's ah, it's more of ah geo metric kind of style. There still two of whom the shar very vertical instead of horizontal. But yeah, it's got a more, Um, angled Look, too. It's very interesting.
spk_0: 24:10
Interesting. So, you know, as you were speaking, I was like, you mentioned how Jeep has taken the Jeep name off the front of the car because they felt that their grill was so identifiable. The seven, um, slats. It's like, OK, that's been with Jeep. Pretty much told time. Except when it was, like in the seventies, when Eagle took over, right? So, um, you know, I was gonna say, Like, do you think BMW would ever take the logo off the car? Because the kidney girls are so identified, But that's definitely not gonna be the case. If they're gonna be changing them as much as they have, I would assume,
spk_1: 24:48
Yeah, I would be really surprised BMW took the round down off the
spk_0: 24:51
Yeah, after hood. Yeah, I
spk_1: 24:53
think that's that's a trade the car has always had. Um and you know, a lot of people say that that's the propeller against the sky because, you know, they started out as a as an aircraft engine manufacturer, which is very clearly been proven. That's not the case. And that's not what that's for. Hold up. Yeah, that's not with that I didn't represents. Yeah,
spk_0: 25:15
okay. Well, then that just changed my whole life. So what the heck isn't that?
spk_1: 25:20
Um actually, it's the colors of the Bavarian flag. And it was just It was a magazine article or a nad, I believe in a magazine that had an airplane in the air, and it was, Ah, I think it was an ad for an aircraft engine. And they put the logo where the propeller is. And it just was a nice, you know, aesthetically pleasing creative for marketing. And everyone thought from that point forward that it was the propeller against the blue sky, and that's where it came from. But that's not true. Wow. Yeah, no, that's That's not where the logo came from.
spk_0: 26:00
Oh, my gosh, I Every time I look at it, I'm like, That's cool. And then at that I mean, it's still cool, but it's just different.
spk_1: 26:07
Yeah, it's, um you know, it's one of those things that I think everyone believes, And I've actually used that in, like, a tribute. A thing. Yeah, I use, uh, I do presentations, and I used to who and do these? I don't know. If you ever use Kohut before, but it's it's really cool application to do, um, you know, trivia stuff, and then people can log in on their phones and answer the questions. I use that one all the time because everyone says, Oh, it's a propeller against
spk_0: 26:34
it's not well, our trick question. Yeah, for sure. So we're talking logo, so we might as well just transition into this one right now. BMW announced some changes to their logo.
spk_1: 26:47
Yeah, they shared it.
spk_0: 26:47
Um, we're looking at a flat Rondell with almost a transparency around the blue and white.
spk_1: 26:55
Yes, and ah, what I was told is that they're they're doing this specifically for digital marketing and that they wanted mawr of whatever is in the background to shines through. And that's that's why there's more transparency.
spk_0: 27:11
Interesting, Interesting. So that's that circle around the blue and white will be transparent on those pieces of marketing, which is interesting because on their marketing guidelines, they do talk about, um, you know, making sure that they're locals on white backgrounds, you know, around 10 pixel border around. That has to be white. So that would be interesting to see how that changes in the guidelines themselves. And, you know, maybe there is an opportunity to be a little bit more creative and vibrant with with some things from their marketing, which would be exciting.
spk_1: 27:46
Yeah, I'm just I don't know. I mean, logo is looked Yeah, it's the same for so long. It's It's a little odd to me at first on somebody I was talking to the other day looked at and said, It looks like somebody went in in paint and, you know, made a circle and then hit the fill button and then filled in everything except for the the BMW or whatever. Yeah, it does look very simple. Yes, I guess, if nothing else, like, it was done very simply on. Ah, you know, on a simple program.
spk_0: 28:20
Yeah, that's for sure. And I think, you know, maybe 8 to 10 years ago, a lot of companies updated their logos to go to a flat design, right? So if you think back to the iPhone, um 123 Remember, the app icons had, like, a glossy shine, they almost like a bubble to them. So and all the logos that were in them were three day, and, um, they looked. We'll have that look to them. Let's put it that way. They all have this, like, bubbled three dimensional shine to them on then around generation 45 things had to get flat. And by six, everything was completely flat. You had more pastel colors, you didn't have more, like true primaries. And you had these Just very, um, they were, I guess it just minimalistic, you know, type low, those. You know, Yahoo went from having the whole word. Just a Why then just, ah, Flat. Why, You know, with new shadow underneath it, Um and
spk_1: 29:22
yeah, I wonder if you know I'm one of those guys as six pages of our screens of icons like, I don't consolidate anything. So I gotta swipe through stuff. And I do find myself looking for a nap, and I'm going. So maybe maybe it was in an effort to identify Mawr. Um, you know, distinctly right. You're Ah, you're icon. I don't know.
spk_0: 29:46
Yeah, well, I think, but by flattening it out, it helps the brand, um, align mawr to the I from the i models and then also potentially go more towards, like a minimalist approach. Um, moving forward which is interesting when when manufacturers biggest BMW decides to make a logo change, it's it's
spk_1: 30:11
It's a big deal to be. And it's a big change. Yeah. I mean, when people start seeing it, it's it looks different.
spk_0: 30:18
Yeah, absolutely. Um, is there anything else you want to add about the e 46?
spk_1: 30:24
No, man, I I kind of drew a blank little bit, but it's so much. I love that car so dearly on. And there's so much I could talk about. Um, but ah, no, I think that's that probably covers it. I think in a future episode, I may come back and say, Oh, I you know, I really wanted to say this during any 46 episode, but, um, yeah, I think I'm good
spk_0: 30:46
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