Behind the Turntables: Willie Wonka's Wild Ride in the DJ World

Join us as we sit down with Willie Wonka, the charismatic DJ for Minneapolis rapper Prof, who shares his no-nonsense approach to social rituals and wild tales from his journey. From visits to the No Jumper podcast studio and surreal interactions with Adam22 and Whack 100, to creating content with Andrew Santino and Ryan Sickler in LA, Wonka gives us a peak behind the curtain of the entertainment industry.

Reflecting on the evolution from cramped van tours to headlining major venues, Wonka recounts the relentless pursuit of delivering unforgettable performances with Prof. Hear about the near-altercation with rapper Russ, the vibrant local scene at Froggy's in Pine City, and the unforgettable characters they've encountered along the way. We delve into the impacts of the pandemic on a DJ's career, exploring how the lockdown fostered new ways of connecting through online beat battles and virtual happy hours, while navigating life’s unexpected twists.

In a heated debate about P Diddy’s allegations and playful banter about upcoming plans, Wonka opens up about the excitement and challenges of DJing. Learn the essentials of reading the crowd, adapting on the fly, and building a brand with local artists. With plenty of laughs and camaraderie, we wrap up with a toast to friendship, fun times, and future hangouts—don’t miss out on this rollercoaster of an episode! Cheers, and we’ll see you all at Froggy's!

Follow Wonka on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/wonka_musick/

0:00 DJing for Prof
7:24 Evolution of Touring and Stage Performances
18:49 Wild Encounters and Party Hosting
30:20 Navigating Life During Covid and Connecting
36:13 Navigating the DJ Industry for Success
45:01 DJing Tips and Song Requests
57:45 Debating Diddy's Allegations

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Transcript

DJing for Prof

Speaker 1 0:00

Wonka, do you know any good cheers.

Speaker 2 0:02

Fuck, no, I just drink dude.

Speaker 1 0:03

Really there we go.

Speaker 3 0:05

Right to the point. I love it.

Speaker 2 0:06

I don't. None of my friends are like oh yeah, trabajo, blah, blah, blah, no, we just fucking say cheers and go Okay.

Speaker 1 0:14

I like that. Cheers let's go yeah. Pre-show shot Ladies and hiatus here. We had to get back in the studio because we got uh, the one and only willie wonka himself. What's going on, man? Thanks for making the trip up to pine city.

Speaker 2 0:30

I appreciate you guys. Um, this is my first uh podcast ever, first interview.

Speaker 1 0:34

Nobody wants to talk to me but you guys, so like I said, I've been trying to do some research on you. I was trying to pull you up on youtube. I cannot find I. I found your youtube channel, obviously, but I could not. Anytime I search willie wonka, it just pops up the movie and that's all that I could see this that was my, that was my whole goal was like nobody could ever find me.

Speaker 2 0:53

I like that.

Speaker 1 0:54

It's ominous I'm like john wick. Yeah, dude, you're uh, you're a mysterious guy and I feel like we don't know a lot about you, and that was one of the biggest reasons why we wanted to have you on. I appreciate that. So, um, well, first off, let's just start here. We uh, all of us actually just watched the no jumper interview with prof yep and we we heard him referencing you in the background of the interview the whole time. What is like? What is like the no jumper after glow like? What is? What is it like in their studio, the studio?

Speaker 2 1:23

is crazy because, like um, they give you the address but they say, like you can't post anything around, like where you are, and like it's like. It's like a knock on the door and this big ass dude opens up like what's up and they're like we have, we have interview.

Speaker 2 1:37

He's like oh yeah, we gotta sign this thing and sign this waiver. Oh, and it's like it's a, it's not very. You don't think it's no jumper there. You're like it's like I don't know like a warehouse looks like and you go in there it's like boom, you're no jumper.

Speaker 4 1:51

And then it got real.

Speaker 2 1:52

I'm like damn okay, this is cool. So it was cool. Adam's super cool. A lot of Adams interviews. I like Sharpe's interviews. I thought those were funny. Sure, I met Whack 100 and that was weird because I thought he was trying to catch me up on something. Yeah, he was talking to me. Real weird. I'm like bro, what's going on? Am I about?

Speaker 5 2:15

to go viral.

Speaker 2 2:15

Right now I'm just trying to keep my wits about me, I don, but uh, you're about to be on snapchat stories. I don't know what's going on. So I'm like, okay, this is, I'm just talking to him. He's like yeah, you willy wonka. I'm like yeah, he's like no, the willy wonka. I'm like, uh, no, like he was just so confusing, but it was cool. It was cool, there was, it was it's a fun time. I was like it was weird, because I'm like, damn, like I've seen these places like online.

Speaker 1 2:38

I'm like oh no, I'm in this bitch it's kind of sweet because you realize like real quick that this is just regular people yeah, they're just normal motherfuckers yeah, that's the wildest part of the thing I'm like, I'm like, hey, what's up.

Speaker 2 2:50

Uh, adam like, how was your day? He's like, well, well, I shot a porno. Earlier I got, did like a live stream I got this interview, another interview. I'm like what the fuck kind of day is this crazy. The first thing you did was shoot a porno, like it was like 12 o'clock when we got there. Dude, that's a hell of a morning activity. Hey babe, all right, let's get to shooting.

Speaker 3 3:09

It's like after the Denny's breakfast or like.

Speaker 2 3:11

Yeah, that's a grand slam, that's wild yeah.

Speaker 1 3:20

So you going to do these things with Prof? Is this? Obviously? This is all, while you guys are on tour.

Speaker 2 3:27

No, or you like go out there specifically for the interview. Yeah, yeah. So we flew out to LA for like a week and we did like a bunch of content with this guy named Dr Clips, so like we did a bunch of content for all our new songs that we got coming out. So like it's a bunch of like.

Speaker 3 3:41

Is that the Judy? Is that, when you did Judy?

Speaker 2 3:44

No, this is literally like three weeks ago like four weeks ago. So we flew out to LA, did a bunch of clips with him while our new songs are coming out, and then we had that interview and then we did Andrew Santino's podcast.

Speaker 1 3:58

Hell yeah, damn Whiskey, ginger Whiskey.

Speaker 5 3:59

Ginger yeah, absolutely episode dude. I love whiskey ginger man that's super dope.

Speaker 2 4:03

And then, um, uh, what more we did the way back with um no, ryan sickler. I fucking love ryan sickler man like so, yeah, all those was a cool. Like it's crazy, because all the comedians love pete and they love us, yeah yeah, I think I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 4:21

I just wanted address it because, for those of you that are not familiar with Willy Wonka, he's the DJ for Prof, who is a Minneapolis rapper. He's one of the biggest in the game, especially from Minneapolis, and we're all really big fans of him. Hell yeah, and it is just unbelievable the experiences you've got to have.

Speaker 3 4:40

Yeah, it's crazy and how long he's been at it yeah, it's been 20 years. Like some shit like that.

Speaker 4 4:45

Like it's fucking insane discography dude I actually discovered prof from the honeydew, which is ryan sickler's podcast, and I, because I'm not good at music, dude, I wait for people to tell me what's good, you know, I'm not the guy that discovers it. But comedians is kind of my thing and in ryan sickler he's. He's a small comedian but his podcast is great and prof has been on it a couple times and when I heard his story it was just unbelievable, yeah it's dope, it's dope trying super hard not to fanboy the fuck out right now.

Speaker 3 5:14

Be a fanboy dude, let's go like no bullshit no

Speaker 2 5:19

bullshit. How long have you been?

Speaker 1 5:21

his dj.

Speaker 2 5:21

I've been his DJ since 2016, 2015-ish. So I was a producer first. So I was making beats and I was managing another artist named Mac Irv at the same time and DJing for not really DJing at all, I was just being a producer.

Speaker 2 5:38

Yeah, I was just like in the background or whatever, and I made a couple beats for P. This is when I first started making beats together. I'm going to be serious with this shit. So I sent some beats to random ass rappers in Minnesota. I found a list of the top 10 rappers and I'm like, okay, I'm just going to-.

Speaker 1 5:53

I'm going to DM these guys.

Speaker 4 5:54

Yeah, I'm going to DM them.

Speaker 2 5:54

Every last one of these motherfuckers and and me and Mac were on tour at P for like a small, like little ass, midwest run or some shit, and we were like Des Moines, iowa, and his DJ at the time wasn't able to DJ and he said hey, you want to DJ for me? I'm like bro, I'm not a DJ, like what?

Speaker 5 6:15

are you?

Speaker 3 6:15

talking about, but you know how to run the shit.

Speaker 2 6:17

Yeah he goes. Well, you're a producer so I'm sure you can just push play. And you can just push play and like I'm like, oh yeah, I can push play, but I'm not gonna be good. He's like just do it. So then like he gave me some cues and I'm like, okay, and I got them all and the first time. And he's like, all right, so you're my dj. Now I was like I gotta get some equipment, I gotta figure some shit out. So were you, were you post fundo? So I was, so fundo was the dj at the time, and so literally that at that time then Funda was done and I was oh, he kicked him out.

Speaker 1 6:46

This is post-scandal. Obviously this is before Scandal, Before Scandal.

Speaker 2 6:50

So before, this is 2014. Okay, so 2020 is when everything went down. So 2014 is when we, when I started like maybe DJing for him and my first tour with him, with Pete, was like 2015, 2016.

Speaker 1 7:08

So yeah, found it was gone, gone for like four or five years before that shit happened.

Speaker 2 7:10

So damn so. You've been on tour a solid eight years. Yeah, I've seen the country like six times or something.

Speaker 1 7:13

That's insane. Okay, so give us a little peek behind the curtain on tour. Life like I would imagine it's got to be crazy. Over the last eight years there had to have been so much shit. That's happened.

Speaker 2 7:24

The funny thing is I was telling Alyssa we started off in a van, we were in a 15-passenger van, we had all our shit in there, p's laying down in the back. I got all my shit.

Speaker 2 7:40

I'm like this we're going to these shows. It's crazy, we're having these fucking crazy shows, but we're in to these shows and people. It's crazy. We're having these fucking crazy shows, but we're in a fucking van and then we gotta wake up, do this shit again, do it and like our bodies are breaking down and shit. But now we've progressed and now we got a tour bus now we got more comfortable, but it's still the same shit.

Speaker 2 7:57

Like we're still so like locked in and tuned in and like every show we do is like we try to make it the best show we ever fucking do yeah, I mean doing it that long.

Speaker 2 8:05

Like obviously there's a lot of things that you guys keep in mind when you're doing like not only has the music industry changed so much, but the just online presence has changed so much it's like how do you, how do you guys keep up with like what's going on, like just constantly absorbing it, or do you guys have people around you that are like, hey, we should do the fuck we do, and then we like every tour. He's like all right, I got 25 real ideas. I'm like bro, this is freaking, we're gonna do this real.

Speaker 3 8:33

This is probably one or two and it's like see one of those dudes that just constantly has all his ideas.

Speaker 2 8:38

He's always got ideas going on like oh yeah, I've got this going on, and after every show we got like we do.

Speaker 2 8:43

We got notes and shit, like okay, I do this or that, or like hey, uh, look, when I do this, it's so meticulous like just watch the playback footage and we just have moments like I'm like, if he does something on stage, like I like, I like put it on my phone, like nice at this song, when he did this like wiggle, I like that shit, so that that kind of contributes to like the, the reputation, especially like of you guys, like being on tour, like he kind of has that rep of like throwing fucking crazy shows

Speaker 2 9:10

like he's throwing like water bottles and shit out in the crowd and crowd surfing we take our shows fucking serious, like we don't like fuck around, like everything we do. We want to make sure it's the best show you ever had. Like we do 25 shows in a row and you will never know that it's our 24th show, because we want to make sure the energy's right absolutely.

Speaker 4 9:27

It means so much because you look at some of the mainstream rappers. They're so fucked up at their concerts fucking lazy dude like. Clips of kodak black are going viral right now. At his last concert he was too fucked up. He came out late. He left early because the crowd pissed him off and being a showman is so important in today's world.

Speaker 2 9:47

That's what puts you above the rest and I think that's kind of why we have such a crazy like fan base, because when they do see us, we're not just doing that, we're doing more, we're trying to do as much as we can to like make sure, like every show, every, every tour, we sit back down and like, okay, how can we make this tour better than the last tour?

Speaker 2 10:06

What can we do? What's the next steps? How can we make it bigger, better? From our first tour with him, we just had a little time clock and a couple of lights. So now our last tour, I had all these TVs and all these lights and smoke and all this shit.

Speaker 5 10:22

Got a pyrotechnic on.

Speaker 2 10:23

Yeah, all this shit, Nice, we got all these lights and smoke and all this shit. Yeah, like all this shit, and I was like we built up to that, but it's also. We want to make sure that our fans enjoy themselves and they see us working and they know that it's going to be a good show whenever they come see us. So then next time you come to that city they're like hey, listen, you don't know this man, but you're going to come here.

Speaker 4 10:40

You got to go here you gotta go. Yeah, you don't even know the music, but have a fucking good time because it's gonna be a fucking show. What was that experience like? Because I'm you know you've been with prof for a long time and I'm sure when you started he had more of his, his niche crowd, his diehards. What was it like watching it escalate to being like these crazy?

Speaker 2 10:57

crowds. It's crazy because, like I, I literally remember going to like des moines, iowa, and there's 25 people right, 25 motherfuckers for us with the headliners. Yeah, so like earlier than that, it was seven people in the 25. Okay, we do the same show. We're fucking going crazy. We would like, when it's small, so like that, we would just get fucked up and like just have fun and we get, yes, like go to the bar and say, okay, 25 shots, so we would it's like $25 it's a cheap ass bill so we would do that type of shit.

Speaker 2 11:27

And then going back to Des Moines, it's like 1200 people. I'm like damn same venue it's a bigger venue now, but it's just because we're in the same city and I was like 1200 being in Detroit, it was like 75 people and now we did like St Andrews 1000 people where 8 Mile was filmed and shit Like I'm like damn this is crazy. That's so fucking cool man, it's wild Some moments.

Speaker 3 11:50

I'm sitting there, I'm like that's got to feel like super, like satisfying, knowing that the process that you guys are all linked up with is actually like proving itself to work. That's got to be like super satisfying instantaneous.

Speaker 2 12:09

It's satisfying, satisfying, but it's also like we need more. Yeah, yeah, oh so this is 12. How's what's 24? Look like, oh shit. Yeah, let's do it again.

Speaker 1 12:14

Give me more, give me more right yeah, how do you, how do you guys keep it fresh? Like, how do you uh, obviously you said you keep notes and stuff after the show is but like, how do you culminate new ideas and what you need to do? Do you like just all sit down and like, okay, this is what we're thinking?

Speaker 2 12:28

it's wild because, like before every every year, we do like a same kind of set all year for our tours. But before those tours, me and peter sit down and like, well, I text. And I texted and like, okay, what can we do? Like this last tour, um is called the gallery tour or whatever. I'm like what should we do? What can we do? And I found a GIF that was a painting frame with different TV screens flashing. I'm like let's do that. Just put TVs on, have the videos as your artwork, that's your art, and do some shit like that.

Speaker 2 13:01

And he's like, oh, that's a great idea and we just do shit like that, just bounce ideas off each other and then like, try shit out and then, if it doesn't work, we're changing things up during like the set, like okay, we don't like that song here, we'll move it here. Or like the energy is different when we do this song, let's move it there.

Speaker 3 13:16

and all depending on the crowd yeah.

Speaker 2 13:17

So like what we notice, we know kind of like how crowds go because we've been doing this for so long. So like we can tell like okay, this song is good here because I can see the crowd, but this song isn't that good here because the energy is different.

Speaker 3 13:29

So so it's like kind of like that so to be like, so adaptable and on your feet, especially in real time, yeah, we all I'm always thinking like when I'm back there I can see everything.

Speaker 2 13:38

Oh, there's a fight going on here this girl's tits is out. He missed his cue. That's okay, I'm still watching the tits. One time I remember seeing like this girl's tits was out and then like some other girl just sort of beating the shit out of him. I'm like hell yeah.

Speaker 1 13:56

I'm like I've never, seen a fight with my boobs out. Well, I mean speaking of that, can you give us some like core memories of?

Speaker 2 14:04

on tour Like are. Well, I mean, speaking of that, can you give us some core memories of on tour? Are there any specific instances that stick out to you? Yeah, well, Statue of Limitation is like seven years. Yeah, no, okay, my first one I think about is so I think we were in Fort Collins or Colorado Springs or some shit in Colorado. Yeah, I drank too much water and I drank too much Jameson before the show and because I was kind of nervous, I don't know why. Every now and then I just drink too much.

Speaker 2 14:28

But I feel bad, but it's tough when you're on stage and you have to piss. And there's no time for me to get off the stage because I have to work, r Kelly did. So I had some bottles of water and the table's kind of like this you know what I mean. Like this is my DJ table, so I just fucking.

Speaker 1 14:50

Way in the road. Hell yeah, did the old trucker relief.

Speaker 4 14:56

There's a thousand people looking at you.

Speaker 2 14:59

They're like my dick was definitely in like a fucking bottle and I'm like, yeah, Put your hands up. One, two, three, yeah.

Speaker 5 15:08

Dude bottle and I'm like yeah.

Speaker 2 15:09

Put your hands up. One two three.

Speaker 3 15:10

Yeah, were you kind of dehydrated a lot. So you're just pissing syrup.

Speaker 2 15:16

It's a shot glass, but we put Jameson in our water bottles right. So I had an idea I go, this is funny, this is going to be good. I closed my bottle and my tour manager was over here, and so I kept an idea I go, this is funny.

Speaker 4 15:28

This is going to be good.

Speaker 2 15:28

I closed my bottle up and my tour manager was over here and so I kept the bottle, and so I go backstage and I'm like I'm trying to figure out a way to get this warm-ass bottle into the mix of the actual Jameson that we have, and I'm like I get it done, I put it down there and I'm like I get it done, I'm like I put it down there and I'm like, hey, josh, you want a shot?

Speaker 4 15:50

hey, good show man, let's take it. What a great show.

Speaker 2 15:54

This is the best I've ever seen. You tour manager, josh, like we need to take a shot. I think this was this one was yours. He picked it up and it was so warm that he was like what the fuck is this a microwave? Yeah, it's for my body it's like that golden brown like he's, like these.

Speaker 1 16:14

Don't look the same, but you might like you might have a uti there's, there's at least a percentage of jmo in it, you know well, it's like five percent six percent for sure how do you, how do you uh I mean, obviously you guys are you, you and prof and, uh, some of the other people on the show there you guys are all pretty fit, like none of you are super overweight. Like, how do you keep, keep it together on the road, or do you just say, fuck it like lead not I try.

Speaker 2 16:42

I always every tour I'm like okay, I'm not going to drink as much, I'm going to work out this tour.

Speaker 3 16:46

Then I'm like fuck it.

Speaker 4 16:49

She says no.

Speaker 2 16:51

Hungover is fucked. So the thing is, I don't get hungover. I've probably been hungover. Wow, I've probably been hungover, probably like four times.

Speaker 3 17:00

That's a fucking superpower dude. Yeah, that is.

Speaker 2 17:02

It is, but it's also bad. It is, but it's also bad. The last time I really been hungover, I was drinking with Nick Swartzen and I tried to keep up with him. Hey, he's a Minnesota boy too.

Speaker 2 17:12

Yes, so he took me and P out to a Timberwolves game. We like to be low-key when we go out, so we go to the loon and we're sitting in this corner and he comes in, boom, kicks the door open. What the fuck is up, motherfucker? I'm like, oh. So everyone sees us and then everyone starts throwing shots at us and shit. So we go to the game. I'm already kind of tipsy and he starts pounding Vodka. So I'm like, fuck, he's pounding these Vokas. I got to keep up, I'm not a bitch.

Speaker 1 17:42

I'm going to keep up with him.

Speaker 2 17:43

So I'm pounding shots with him too and shit. And next thing I know I just wake up on my couch and I couldn't move. For like two days I was like I am never drinking with Nick Swardson fucking again. I'm never drinking again. I thought I was done drinking for the time. Have you since Drinking with Nick Swardson? Yeah, no, I haven't seen him since. I don't want to see him. I saw him one time across the bar and I turned around. I go not today, motherfucker.

Speaker 5 18:07

I'm leaving Not today I'm leaving, Not today.

Speaker 3 18:09

Satan, satan, get the fuck out of this fucking bar.

Speaker 4 18:12

As a big comedy fan, that's an absolute dream of mine to meet Nick Swartzen. He's cool, you know, being in the industry, you are, you looked up to.

Speaker 2 18:26

DMX was super cool.

Speaker 4 18:27

Damn you met.

Speaker 2 18:28

DMX. Yeah, like a sound set before he died.

Speaker 3 18:31

Yeah, that was just like what, like a couple years ago.

Speaker 2 18:36

Last sound set was probably like what? Three years ago.

Speaker 1 18:39

Sounds right 2019?

Wild Encounters and Party Hosting

Speaker 2 18:42

Yeah, something like that. 2020, something like that. Oh yeah, 2019, before COVID, for sure. So he performed and his trailer was like right kind of by ours. That was super cool Meet him. We almost got in a fight with Russ one time.

Speaker 5 18:59

No way, Russ. I was just going to ask you what celebrity have you met? That's the biggest dickhead.

Speaker 2 19:03

Well, I don't know if he was a dickhead. You don't have to say it if you don't want to, but you know you got one. Russ was.

Speaker 5 19:12

I don't know what was his issue was.

Speaker 1 19:13

So we had our trailers were like this they were like sure like touching, touching tips they were?

Speaker 2 19:16

they were eskimo brothers, and so we we got off the stage and like, when we got off the stage we have been, we have all our homies with us. It's like different than when me and Pete get off the stage with ourselves.

Speaker 5 19:27

So we're like, hey, what's up?

Speaker 2 19:29

fuck this, what's up, Rob Markman, yeah everyone typed us yeah, yeah, rob Markman, and everyone's drinking and loud, and somebody on the other. We heard the wall like hey, whoever's on the other side, shut the fuck up. Yeah, we want all the smoke. We're like okay, okay, because my homeboy Scotchie is like 6'6", maybe 280.

Speaker 1 19:50

He's always ready to fight.

Speaker 4 19:51

He's standing on business.

Speaker 2 19:53

Yeah, he's standing on business at all points in time and he's drunk, so he was like okay, dude, and he said it really loud.

Speaker 3 19:59

So then he did the Kool-Aid man and just jumped right through the wall.

Speaker 2 20:02

Literally he looks out the window and puts his whole head out the window and they see him and they run onto the little cartons. Yeah, bitch, but then Russ gets on stage and he's like, yeah, I'm the best motherfucker and so it was kind of like a little beef for a second. But he's cool. I went to his concert the other day.

Speaker 3 20:22

That's kind of surprising, because his especially in the last couple of years his whole vibe.

Speaker 2 20:26

Maybe he was a different person back then, though, because he could have been. When was this? That was 2018, 2019. Now he's a whole different dude, totally different person.

Speaker 4 20:35

I'm different than I was last week.

Speaker 2 20:37

Everyone changes, so like he could have been sitting young and we were fucking obnoxious too, Like if I was him I'd be like man, shut the fuck up. I'm trying to get ready for my show. You know what I mean. So we were a little more young and dumb back then, a little more rowdy.

Speaker 3 20:52

At least it kind of all progresses at the same level. Yeah, you got to go work through those tears.

Speaker 2 20:57

Yeah, for sure I'm way different than I was last month, Boys.

Speaker 4 21:02

I think it's a good time to take a little bathroom break. I think it's good time to take a little bathroom break. We're going to regroup, we're going to go see what's happening. We might come back with the shot, but we'll be right back. It's time for a bathroom break. The boys will be right back. You guys have commercials.

Speaker 3 21:16

Thank you, did you still have the?

Speaker 2 21:17

Australian bitch. Oh, you guys have commercials of this motherfucker.

Speaker 1 21:23

We've just learned that actually Willy Wonka has been to Froggy's here in Pine City in the past.

Speaker 2 21:29

The best city in the world Pine.

Speaker 1 21:30

City Fucking right brother, clip that Chat, clip that, yeah, just go viral.

Speaker 3 21:35

Make some money off it.

Speaker 1 21:38

Okay, so why were you at Froggy's so?

Speaker 2 21:41

I was working with my artist, mac Irv, and we got booked for this neon light party thing at some place named Froggy's in Piney City. I've never been here before. Like fuck it.

Speaker 1 21:54

Come to a town of 3,000 people.

Speaker 2 21:56

We don't know we're getting paid, so we're going to be there. The check came through Boom, so we get here and it was cool. It was Kid Automatic and and sake fred.

Speaker 1 22:09

Those two dudes booked us we went to high school with them, guys, that's so fucking funny and kid automatic man he was.

Speaker 2 22:14

He was charismatic dog. Hey, I don't know if you're still rapping or where we are, yeah he is if you're still rapping man, keep going. Man, because he was charismatic as fuck hell yeah, pop it, lock it. He was bro. He was charismatic as fuck Hell yeah, pop it, lock it, baby Bro he was Dude, no bullshit, he was saying before we even started dude.

Speaker 3 22:31

He was like yeah, he's the only person I ever seen.

Speaker 2 22:34

I never seen a shit like that before. I was like damn, he's going in right now. At one point, damn yeah, that whiteboard was going crazy. But yeah, fucking Froggy's man, it was cool, it was a lot of Motherfuckers in there. I was like Damn, this is kind of cracking.

Speaker 3 22:48

Dude, they do something right, like they had Afro man here a handful of years ago. Oh shit, for real, yeah.

Speaker 1 22:53

Afro man Kasky has been here. Oh yeah, and nobody booked them. Get out of there.

Speaker 2 22:59

I can say They've been booking Motherfuckers for the last Ten years, 10 years, froggy's.

Speaker 3 23:05

I swear to God, how many emails does it take to get that to happen? Dude, seven Hell yes, at least.

Speaker 5 23:13

At least seven.

Speaker 2 23:14

If I have to go mad, maybe four. Oh, I got some weed, I got some money.

Speaker 3 23:19

That's it, set it up. I got a cold 45 and some zigzags, dude Maybe that's all you need, yeah.

Speaker 1 23:29

Let's go um what. Okay, so now you like host parties on your own as well. We saw that you did, uh this right there. Yeah, 2000s party just back in may. Yeah, um, I saw that you just canceled your one that's coming up soon yeah, so we had one.

Speaker 2 23:40

I had one set up in nashville, so I just started this like series of parties. So I did First was Fargo, then, like Sioux City, sioux Falls, I did one in Minneapolis, said I went up in Chicago, probably like Milwaukee. I had one set up for Nashville but it got canceled. But it's okay, it's alright, but it's been fun, like I'm trying to Branch out and make my own brand Cause, like, yes, I'm always with Prof and I love being with Prof, but also I'm a pretty fucking, pretty good DJ. Yeah, hell, yeah, I don't know, because I don't get a lot of recognition for shit, which is cool, but whatever.

Speaker 3 24:16

Same thing being the producer background, they never get the fuck around yeah. I'm in the background a lot.

Speaker 2 24:20

So it's okay, I know I'm really good. So I Started doing my own parties first, where it was my name Like oh, willy Wonka's party, and like nobody came. It was like Nobody gives a fuck About the DJ.

Speaker 4 24:31

They want. They came here for chocolate, yeah, like.

Speaker 2 24:33

They're like when the fuck are the Oompa Loompas Dude? That's actually something Bro, I can, you could.

Speaker 4 24:41

Bro, you gotta give out a chocolate bar, hey actually we have a connect with Sassy Cassie. She's the world's shortest stripper.

Speaker 2 24:50

Where's she from?

Speaker 1 24:51

She's from Minnesota here the little girl. Yeah, she's got a house in Shakopee and Vegas and. Los Angeles, I think. So she bounces around.

Speaker 2 25:00

I feel like I've met Sassy Cassie before.

Speaker 1 25:02

The fact that you know her name, you probably have.

Speaker 4 25:05

Dude, you will never forget Sassy Cassie, but if you can get.

Speaker 2 25:07

Sassy, Cassie and maybe this isn't politically correct. Should we just cut this out? Yeah, probably.

Speaker 1 25:14

Should we get canceled? Now? We're just brainstorming, we're trying to support local artists here.

Speaker 5 25:19

Thank you have you ever thought about throwing a Willy Wonka themed party where everyone dressed like characters from Willy Wonka? I have, but I thought that was kind of weird Dude.

Speaker 2 25:28

Yeah, bad idea man, you gotta you have to.

Speaker 4 25:31

Throw some mushrooms in the mix. Yeah, eat shit, man Jesus.

Speaker 2 25:35

The reason why I think it's weird is it's like nobody gives a fuck about my name. I feel 2000s is like my shit. It's a fucking vibe. I know I can vibe that shit out. You'll come there for the vibe but you'll leave it like oh shit, that was a good ass DJ. You know what I mean? That's what I want to happen with my parties, dude just like brand perspective too.

Speaker 3 25:58

There's so much fun shit you could do with Willy Wonka.

Speaker 2 26:01

I used to do these parties back in 2017, 2018. I used to do these parties um back in 2017, 2018, of these parties at uh the poor house in uh dinky town, nice. So we used to do golden ticket nights. So it was like every night, every friday night or whatever, they would come in and get like a raffle ticket and then you get a golden ticket for like a free for like a free tab. Hell yeah, the next week or whatever it is damn.

Speaker 2 26:23

Yeah, it was cracking but then like they shut down. But it was getting cracker than that bitch too. Cuz like everyone come in and we a party and they get somebody, oh, by somebody get a free tab. And that's like. This is like when, like, white claws just started like getting popular, so like the first week and I had it. They're like hey, try, silly white claws. I'm like what the fuck is a white claw?

Speaker 4 26:41

and like nobody bottom.

Speaker 2 26:42

And then, like next week, they went viral. We're like I got oh next thing. You know they couldn't keep them more for us off the shelf, but yeah, it's, it's. I've been doing a lot of different little parties and shit like that, but I think this, like right, there is going to be what I'm going to focus on and doing other other like little parties and 100.

Speaker 1 27:00

There's lots of flexibility too, as far as like creativity yeah, and I imagine the workload's fucking insane yeah, pull off of I gotta book it myself.

Speaker 2 27:09

I booked the venue, I talked to the promoters, I promoted myself, I pay for my, my travel, like, do all that, and you know so obviously you know how it works now too.

Speaker 1 27:20

Yeah, industry. Like you've done it so many times, I know what you're doing too like I have some more promoters I work with.

Speaker 2 27:26

Like I know this person, that person and I hit them up and we set it up and we go from there that's kind of crazy, considering like the first uh experience you had, djing, you were just kind of thrown into it yeah, here you are a handful of years later. Make a career out of that, yeah it's kind of like my thing, like I like to like, if I do something, I like I do that shit, like I'm gonna learn it, I'm gonna youtube university, I'm gonna figure the shit out, I'm gonna go from there.

Speaker 4 27:49

I love that you have the charisma for it oh well, I'm ugly so well, that's one thing, that, when it comes to throwing events like we, we do a halloween party every year on tapping the sticks and last year.

Speaker 2 28:02

Y'all want to d? Hell, yeah, we do.

Speaker 4 28:03

That's a fucking loot Hell yes, we do. And so last year we had like 400, 450 people, right yeah, and we fucking broke even Like we have not figured out the art of making money on an event, Doing events and making money, if you can make so, like making money in events.

Speaker 2 28:24

I've been making money in some events. I'm like damn, this is crazy. But it's like it's very difficult to do because it's like a crapshoot, it's like fucking.

Speaker 4 28:31

Russian roulette. There's so much that goes into it, you like. Cody Cody is the guy he, he makes it all happen. But like I try, I try to get involved and I do my part. But you know, no matter how hard we try, it's like if the people don't come, the money's not coming.

Speaker 2 28:48

Yeah, exactly, and so that's why I kind of changed my focus into more like theme than me, because I feel like that's really kind of narcissistic. Like you guys can come see me DJ, yeah, then 25 people get there and I'm like, oh shit.

Speaker 1 29:02

But it's like an added caveat, it's like, hey, he's the one putting it on, so that's what makes it cool, also, on top of it being a theme.

Speaker 2 29:09

But this theme is going to be the reason why people who don't know me are here. That's why I want people to come in and not know me, and then they can leave like, oh shit, I'm going to follow this guy because I want to come to this next part.

Speaker 3 29:19

You want the experience. I'm jumping.

Speaker 2 29:28

I'm taking shots with you, I'm doing all types of extra shit because I just like to party with motherfuckers, and so yeah.

Speaker 1 29:34

Sounds like the kind of DJ we need at our Halloween party.

Speaker 4 29:36

Absolutely.

Speaker 2 29:37

Listen. See me at On Tab on the Sticks next Halloween.

Speaker 4 29:42

You better not regret saying that we call you up.

Speaker 2 29:47

I'm just a bit oompa loompa.

Speaker 1 29:48

I'll be a oompa loompa. Sam rigged the costume contest. He won the last costume contest.

Speaker 4 29:53

I was Jelly Roll and I did a hell of a Jelly Roll I like that His bunny actually was this cute young thang and she was flashing the crowd. You got a shorty with you.

Speaker 1 30:04

I had her in handcuffs. It was wild, it was a good time. It was like one of those things Like cheer for this person, dude, I got my first pop Like my first pop from a crowd, and that's something you'll never,

Speaker 2 30:16

forget.

Navigating Life During Covid and Connecting

Speaker 4 30:19

Chase that monkey. I've been an attention whore. My entire life. I love it. Good attention just does something Crazy.

Speaker 2 30:27

Are you a Leo?

Speaker 1 30:28

I am dude, I am a Leo dude.

Speaker 2 30:30

I fucking knew it. I am too. How the fuck did you know that I'm an asparagus. Oh shit, I like asparagus. I knew it Because I'm a Leo too. August, what? August 4th, august 13th.

Speaker 3 30:41

What Chinese?

Speaker 4 30:42

Chinese calendar. What are you? I don't even know, dude, I think I'm like the chicken, or some shit.

Speaker 2 30:48

China has the same calendar as everybody else dude, dude.

Speaker 3 30:50

Everyone loves Chinese buffets.

Speaker 2 30:51

Like you go there.

Speaker 4 30:53

The placemats have the thing.

Speaker 3 30:54

You're born this year, this year, fucking tiger dude. I don't know about that one.

Speaker 2 30:58

Hey, I'm not sure when Moana was born.

Speaker 3 31:01

I think they have A different calendar system.

Speaker 5 31:06

Fuck you.

Speaker 4 31:08

One thing I've been meaning to bring up is you know you started with Prof in about 2016, and I'm sure you guys are touring. Shit was getting crazy. Everything's amping up. When COVID hit in 2020, that had to be a pretty big hit to what you had going on. How did you adjust?

Speaker 2 31:26

Didn't. I just adjusted.

Speaker 1 31:29

I'm like shit, is this over? Was it crazy? As no shows what, they shut down the show.

Speaker 2 31:36

Literally I couldn't do it.

Speaker 3 31:37

That's a big chunk of your revenue, right?

Speaker 2 31:39

I like attention, I like people, I like to go out and do things. When I was like I can't go out and meet people, I was like, who the fuck am I Like what? I had to go to therapy. I was like, oh, I should go out. But it was just like Better health, hit them up, yeah. But I was like, damn, this is crazy because I don't know what to do. But then I started thinking like it's kind of cool because I can chill and work out and just not do anything. But chill and work out and just like not do anything. But then I'm like, but I want to do stuff, yeah. So it was crazy, but I think, um, it was a good reset for me, like mentally I think a lot of people mentally this is like a good reset and like learning, like, okay, let me like what do I actually want?

Speaker 2 32:18

yes, what do I want to do is this? So I'm feeling this way because I enjoy doing this, so obviously this is something I want to continue doing. You know what I mean. So it wasn't like I was like thank god, I'm not doing any shows. Yeah, no, so covid was crazy. I still think about that shit, like it really was a monumental time.

Speaker 2 32:36

Yeah, dude my, my daughter was born through that time and she's okay, she knows about mask and all this shit. Like that's just normal for her. For us we had no idea that's normal for her now. That's crazy, that's just like okay, whatever let's put a mask on.

Speaker 4 32:53

It was awesome because I worked in the cities at the time and so I had to wear a mask in the office everywhere I went. I'd come back to Redneck Pine City. They didn't even know what the fuck masks were here man.

Speaker 1 33:07

They know what the fuck masks we're here, man, like what the fuck is that you're wearing?

Speaker 4 33:09

a fucking mask. Yeah, they get pissed. If you're wearing one, you're gonna rob me. What are you? A fucking sheep?

Speaker 2 33:11

don't get mad about it like listen, I want to wear one, I'll wear one, I'll buy one. Time somebody asked me like why are? You wearing that mask. I have covid. They're like oh shit, yeah, bitch yeah, what a wild time.

Speaker 1 33:23

It seemed like it was so strange. But I mean, like as a dj, like you get to, you know, perfect your craft in the comfort of your own home, like you can do it wherever you want you're on live streams and shit. I was gonna say so like were you like really honing in on, like what you're doing and like perfecting like your transitions or like what, what was it all?

Speaker 2 33:42

I was perfect to begin with, so I didn't perfect anything. Secondly, yes, I was just doing shit, trying things out. I was doing beat battles online with people Nice.

Speaker 3 33:52

It was just fun, it was good. I didn't even think of that. There are other people in your position, your background, your interests all boxes check that are experiencing the same thing.

Speaker 2 34:04

We all went online and started talking and shit Like oh, what's up? Man, shit's crazy. Yeah, it's crazy, man Want to do a beat battle.

Speaker 5 34:10

Oh yeah cool, yeah Sure, I got nothing else to do.

Speaker 2 34:13

And what the fuck are we going to do tomorrow, like, yeah. So I made a lot of connections online and I think 2020 was a time to actually actually connect with people. Yeah, I was having times with my homeboys I haven't talked to in high school, that I hadn't talked to in a while. We used to have like a happy hour on a Thursday night just because everyone was at home and nobody has nothing to do. Yeah, we connected like that and it made us still be connected afterwards. So it was kind of a good thing. But just because you feel more family, you feel like you work together and shit.

Speaker 4 34:43

Are you from Minnesota?

Speaker 2 34:45

No, I'm from Chicago. You're from Chicago.

Speaker 4 34:47

Dan.

Speaker 2 34:47

So I moved to Minnesota when I was 18 for college. I got a scholarship at the University of Minnesota.

Speaker 4 34:53

Sure.

Speaker 2 34:54

So I stayed after that.

Speaker 4 34:58

So I'm Minnesotan now, because my next question means nothing now that you're not from.

Speaker 4 35:05

Minnesota. What does that mean? So what was it like? Obviously, you started when you started, with shows in Minnesota. I'm sure it had more of a pop, because Prof is from Minnesota, he had his own crowd. But to come to Minnesota now and I know you have some shows coming up and I'm sure you expect it to be fucking crazy Is it weird to come to minnesota? Because with with that home crowd, I'm sure it's a whole different atmosphere yes, it's like, um, especially like lately.

Speaker 2 35:37

I guess every time we do a show in minnesota it's always crazy, but, um, it's fun to come home. It's a lot, it's a lot of stress because we have more people, you know yeah and everyone wants to get in and everyone's hitting you up and everybody needs you to get me.

Navigating the DJ Industry for Success

Speaker 2 35:52

I'm like no tickets, no, but it's fun because when we go out, there is this like a whole nother level. Like our last show we did in Minneapolis was at the Uptown Theatre and that shit was fucking. That was fucking why we did two back-to-back sold-out shows. Yeah, it was like 1,500 people each show. It was crazy. It was fucking crazy.

Speaker 1 36:13

You're going to be at the Fillmore July 20th yes, July 20th at the Fillmore.

Speaker 4 36:18

We got to go, Cody.

Speaker 2 36:18

Well, I don't have any tickets for you. Yeah, hey, can we get some tickets? Is it sold out? Yeah, that's almost no I.

Speaker 1 36:27

I literally just looked before we started recording. I didn't have enough time to purchase the tickets, but there's 21 tickets.

Speaker 2 36:33

Yeah, there's literally 21 tickets left, and it's in what?

Speaker 1 36:37

30 days or whatever standing room only, so uh as soon as we're done with this, we will be buying our tickets to come and see you guys.

Speaker 2 36:44

I'll come see you guys out in the peasantsasants area.

Speaker 1 36:46

We'll bring your duffel bag. Yes, yeah.

Speaker 2 36:50

I'll put it on stage. Hell yeah, that'd be sick.

Speaker 1 36:52

That'd be fun, hell yeah, okay. So obviously like coming home and doing a show in Minnesota in particular, like that is he's got it.

Speaker 1 37:05

Hey, I'm in with you wait, I'll wait, I'll wait okay uh, that's got to have some more weight, like you said. Like it's got to, it's got to feel like you are the vikings and you're playing at us bank stadium 100 like everyone knows you. It's less of like. My friend brought me here and I'm vibing out because I like it. It's like they already know what to expect plus it'd be like, like you don't have to.

Speaker 3 37:26

I imagine there's to expect plus, it'd be like like you don't have to. I imagine there's some level of like, comfortability, like, oh, I don't have to prove who we are you know what I? Mean, like I don't have to, you know, it's just like it's fun.

Speaker 2 37:39

It's really more loose. Yeah, our shows in minneapolis are way more loose. We just do whatever and like it's fun to see our family and friends. Sorry I got some gas, heard that I forgot, I was on a microphone for a second but yeah um, it's fun to see our family and friends and like enjoy ourselves and like afterwards it's like damn, we did that shit.

Speaker 3 38:03

Like it's crazy especially moving up the tiers and venues too, like it. It's just that tangible thing back at home base Like dude.

Speaker 2 38:09

Now we're at this fucking venue and the crazy thing is, the biggest thing we look for is a good bathroom.

Speaker 5 38:15

Really.

Speaker 2 38:16

I want a good, shitter A good shitter in the green room is all I fucking need Really. Yes, bro, I've had times before we didn't have a green room. You want the bidet in I need something nice, nice quality, like shit space. We were like we're in boston and there was no bathroom. We're in the fucking band just like, just mad because we can't piss nowhere. People walking by what's up? Walking what's up, bro, I'm like bitch just to fuck up. Man, like I gotta fucking shit I gotta piss.

Speaker 5 38:43

There's no way to shit.

Speaker 2 38:45

I gotta go like to like a chinese to a Chinese restaurant. Next door is the shit. And so now we have showers and we have nice bathrooms and good areas we can relax. We have people doing shit for us. Before we had to load in, load out, pick everything up, do everything ourselves. That's a lot of equipment. Exactly Now I'm like I wake up at 11 everything's ready I go to subject at. Three is all set up. I'm like damn this is crazy.

Speaker 2 39:17

And then I leave, and then I do weed and grease, and then I do my dj set, and then that's sweet so how much?

Speaker 3 39:22

how much of that is like, since you were like, you were coming up within the same group and you guys were all coming up together. How much of it was like, oh shit, we got the budget for someone to do it for us. And how much of it was, oh okay, this is the industry standard.

Speaker 2 39:38

It's all about budget. It wasn't about If we didn't have the money for it, we wouldn't do this shit. So it was just like oh shit, we could actually afford to have.

Speaker 3 39:46

It'd be nice if we had someone to do this. Oh, we can afford to do it.

Speaker 2 39:49

Damn, it'd be nice to have a bus. Oh damn, we can get a bus now. Yeah, yeah, it's a progression.

Speaker 1 39:55

So with just any profession that you can do from a laptop or do remotely, or do wherever you can.

Speaker 2 40:01

What are you going?

Speaker 4 40:02

to say man Nowadays what's your only fans?

Speaker 1 40:06

DJs in particular. I feel like there's a lot of kids that want to be a DJ, so like if you could give any advice to like a kid watching this and being like hey, this is what you got to do in order to do it. Like what.

Speaker 2 40:21

What is your advice? If you really want to be a DJ and this is something you actually want to do, not just for clout or just trying to be fun or whatever If you literally just study it, enjoy it and read the crowd, I feel like the biggest thing I like to do is read a crowd. I can look at a crowd, right, I can play a song, see how they react to it and then I know if they react to this song. I know eight more songs I'm going to play, because if they like this song, I know they're going to like these eight other songs you got to be able to change up on the fly.

Speaker 2 40:54

Yes and then. So if you see the crowd change, play something and see how they react, and then now you know this is the other vibe. It's like a chess game, almost like math. I'm like a nerd.

Speaker 3 41:08

There's a lot of social intelligence involved.

Speaker 2 41:11

I'm not really socially intelligent, though.

Speaker 3 41:14

Well, it's socially intelligent Social intelligence at scale.

Speaker 2 41:17

Yes, exactly, being realistic, it's a different animal and, knowing it's not about me, I'm like oh yeah, I want to play this song because I like it. Bitch, nobody cares, play what they want to hear and they're going to enjoy themselves. You know what I?

Speaker 3 41:29

mean so toss them up. It's not like your fucking wedding DJ, where it's just Y'all see that catch.

Speaker 2 41:34

Thank you Round them up, Flood the ring, but even as a wedding. I do weddings sometimes and I do the same thing.

Speaker 3 41:42

I didn't mean that as a derogatory.

Speaker 2 41:44

But yeah, you can still read the crowd at the wedding DJ, because I can see it's all the old people here. Right now I'm going to play Red Solo Cup. They're going to enjoy this, or a lot of motherfuckers.

Speaker 5 41:54

You read the room.

Speaker 2 41:55

Yeah, my, age or whatever it is. I'm going to play A good song. To play all the time is Mr Brightside at their wedding.

Speaker 1 42:02

You can never go wrong. You can never go wrong with white people and Mr Brightside.

Speaker 3 42:06

I swear to fucking God, it sparks some weird shit in us.

Speaker 2 42:10

It's like Mo Bamba for white people.

Speaker 4 42:14

As a white man from a rural area, mr Brightside will hit every time.

Speaker 3 42:20

It will never fail, especially if it's later in the night and everyone's blacked out.

Speaker 2 42:23

They're all fucked up. Oh yeah, Foolproof 100%, it's 100 for 100. Yeah smaller.

Speaker 3 42:28

smaller room, too, is different, you know, got to be more responsive.

Speaker 2 42:33

Yeah, it's a lot different than like doing like opening up in our big shows and like having a thousand people already there. But if you really want to be a DJ, trust yourself, practice and watch the crowd that's all you got to do. Hell yeah, crowd, that's all you gotta do. Hell yeah, that's all you gotta do. And and enjoy yourself and not do it for the wrong reasons, to be cool, do it to make money yeah, because it's not gonna happen what's the deficit between, or?

Speaker 1 42:59

or I should say like what's what's the gap between from when you first started doing it and when you first started making money on it?

Speaker 2 43:05

it's been like it's gonna take you five years, like, depending on it, what's the day? It's been like it's going to take you five years, depending on what kind of music you're doing you could blow up. It's like EDM DJing. I started doing these big festivals, but the festivals have like what 25 acts on it. There's what 10 million DJs. You know what I mean. Think about that.

Speaker 3 43:25

Saturated.

Speaker 2 43:25

Yes. So find you a niche in your city and I always tell people like, cut the middle man out. So we always always look for promoters to book you or like other people, venues, to book you. Bro, book yourself. Right, you have a hundred friends. Charge them ten dollars to get in. That's a thousand dollars. Find you a little venue, boom a thousand bucks, right there. Cut the middleman out, make your own niche and you'll be fine. If you have to wait for somebody or depend on other people to book you, you're going to be waiting for a long time and you're not going to make a lot of money because they're going to underpay you. You'll pay yourself better than anybody else will ever pay you anybody else to ever pay you.

Speaker 3 44:09

So that's my, that's my fucking solid. That was actually really good. That was fucking great. I was hanging on every word kind of yeah, let's go. Yeah, I want to start to dj like I'm fired up applying that same thing to the uh um, you know, maybe like there's a listener out there that's really interested in the producing side of things is it?

Speaker 3 44:26

is it the same? Um, because I imagine there's like granted a lot of key takeaways like that line up with that, but like would you recommend a different course? Or like what advice would you give to those who, just like you know, like playing with fucking garage band or reason?

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Speaker 2 44:41

yeah. So if you like playing just playing with sounds and making your own thing do that as much as you want to, because, because it's gonna give you joy, it's gonna give you endorphins, you're gonna have a good time. Yes. But if you wanna make it an actual career, watch what other people do in that same sector and either emulate or learn from and make it your own. So when I started making beats, the way I did it was I would take Kanye West beats right and I would find the sample he used right, so I'd take that sample.

Speaker 3 45:11

See how he chopped it up.

Speaker 2 45:12

Yes, I would reverse, engineer it myself, like, okay, this is why he did this, this is why he did that. So you knew the process. Yes, so it's a four bar. Oh, it loops, oh, it goes exactly the same. Oh, then you put the drums here, boom, and then I started doing that over and over and over and over. Then I said, okay, I'm gonna do it myself. I did that. Then I said, okay, well, now I know how to sample. Now I gotta learn how these like to put some bass lines or other things on it. So let me teach myself some keys, or let me teach myself some like chords. So I know, like to add extra things, like learning things from the greats. Yes, but then just putting your own spin on it and keep going.

Speaker 3 45:47

So knowing the fundamentals.

Speaker 2 45:48

Yes, you can't just jump in and be like, okay, I'm gonna produce for nas, yeah, it's not gonna happen, but you can say I'm going to produce for myself. First learn this, figure out how to mix, figure out how to make my shit sound like, put uh, industry beat, and then I'm gonna find somebody that I like locally and see hey, let me make a song for you, let me work with you for free. When I first hit a P for these beats.

Speaker 3 46:13

You reached out to him first.

Speaker 2 46:14

Yes, I was just throwing beats out to him. He was like I like this beat, how much you want for it? I said nothing because I'm not trying to make money on this right now. I want to Establish a brand. Yes, I want to establish a brand and build something with somebody other than myself or my friends that can't rap. You know what I mean.

Speaker 4 46:31

You're the best rapper.

Speaker 2 46:31

I've ever heard on my shit, so I'm going to give it to you for free because I want you to. He said, no, I'll pay you $100 or whatever the small fee was. I'm like, okay, cool. But you can shoot now the bridge is burning and you would never talk to him ever again. Or you can be like listen, let's work together. I don't even need anything really, but just keep me in mind for the next one, or hit me up more in the next one, or whatever it is.

Speaker 3 46:59

And that was just kind of too like throwing out a signal to him that like, hey, I'm not one of those douchebags. Yeah, I'm not a douchebag, I'm a real dude?

Speaker 2 47:06

Yeah, I'm a real dude and we can still work together because I'm not going to hit you over the head first and I just want to make good shit.

Speaker 4 47:14

Well and I'm sure when you sent the DM to him you never thought it would change your life forever.

Speaker 2 47:20

No, I didn't think I was going to be his DJ and doing this type of shit Almost 10 years later. That wasn't my plan. My plan was just to get somebody new on my beat. That wasn't my homeboys.

Speaker 3 47:32

That's all. It was Somebody that you fucked with on a local level. Yeah, I didn't even know who he was.

Speaker 2 47:38

He was number three on the list.

Speaker 4 47:41

Well, I think you're a prime example of somebody that put themselves out there and it fucking worked, and that's really, if anything, that should be. Your message is just fucking put it out there. You never know what's going to happen.

Speaker 2 47:54

I know a hundred motherfuckers who have like a hundred songs in their vault. What are they in the vault for Right?

Speaker 4 47:59

What's it going to do there? What?

Speaker 2 48:01

is it? It's collecting dust. Put it out there that people hear it. Put it out there, let people hear it. See what happens if it doesn't work out. It doesn't work out, but it's for you, it's not even for nobody else. It's for you to get that release on. Yes, it's like Russ he made. He's yeah, a song a day, song a day. Nobody knew him until like what is 100? Songs yeah, he could have stopped at 20, he could stop at 20, he could stop at 25 because I'm at 40.

Speaker 1 48:28

Yeah, it's not working. It's not working. I mean really when, if when he first started popping off like 2014, 2013, 2012, ish, and then all the sudden it's like bam, wow, crazy.

Speaker 2 48:40

I saw the XO sit on my dad. Motherfuckers at the Excel Center and it's packed out. They're all singing, they're singing every word.

Speaker 3 48:48

It's not even like they're singing every word I didn't even think of. Like you going to concerts, you're analyzing the experience on a complete different level, like you're dissecting everything.

Speaker 2 48:59

I'm watching everything. I'm like oh, this is the stage performance yeah I'm like damn, oh, he just told him to cut the sound up. Oh, he's in there, I'm watching everything, dude, it's unbelievable when you're in an industry like even.

Speaker 4 49:10

You know we do skits, we do podcasts. Now that I know how things are filmed and how things work it, it changes how I watch everything, because I'm like I'm watching the editing, being like, oh, that's, that was a good cut.

Speaker 5 49:22

That was that transition was crazy did cody ruin that for you? Because cody ruined that for me as soon as he made me analyze every video. I watched.

Speaker 2 49:30

Now I can't watch it fun anymore Now I'm just working a long time yeah.

Speaker 1 49:35

Dude, if I can't have fun watching YouTube videos, you can't have fun watching YouTube videos.

Speaker 2 49:39

Yeah, if I go to a bar or something and somebody's DJing, I'm just like that was good. You're just sitting there staring, yeah, I'm like I'm locked in with him. I'm like, yeah, keep going. Man, spin it yeah. Next song, yeah.

Speaker 1 49:53

Wow, yeah, is there any Dead tell stereotypes when you can tell that someone is not a good DJ?

Speaker 2 49:59

I don't like to say Not a good DJ, because I feel like Anyone can be a good DJ. They just haven't learned it yet they just haven't Applied some things, but the biggest thing for me is just like when people talk too much on the mic.

Speaker 1 50:13

They try to hype the crowd up with their voice, not the song.

Speaker 2 50:16

Yes, it's not about you man. No, because of fuck about you, man.

Speaker 3 50:20

It's like if you go to a wedding around Pine City.

Speaker 4 50:25

They're doing the one, two, three, go on every song. You can't count down. You're doing house music. Two, three, Go on every song. Okay, listen.

Speaker 2 50:30

You can't count down. You're doing house music First of all, so the countdown's Going to be the same In every song.

Speaker 4 50:37

It's house music.

Speaker 2 50:40

No, so Wait for it. Wait for it Like a Let it build up. But it's like and also I hate when people Don't read the crowd they're playing something they shouldn't be playing, it's like they're not reading the vibe. Yeah they don't even know this song, bro. Why are we playing this song right now? That's the biggest thing If I see them not reading the crowd or just doing it for themselves.

Speaker 3 51:03

What about song requests? That's a great question because yeah like it. Like if if someone comes up with a song request, granted, it could be a good song, but do you not play it because the vibe is not right or it's not the right time song request.

Speaker 2 51:17

This is this is a hot topic for djs. This is like. This is like it's controversial. This is very controversial, but I like song requests. But don't expect me to play it right. I've had times when, like people come up and they send me, ask me something and it's like the same vibe that I'm playing right now. Shit, I might have played it myself, but I'm gonna play it earlier now because you're saying it.

Speaker 2 51:39

But yeah it meets the vibe and if I'm gonna play it. But if I don't want to play it, don't get mad at me for not playing your song, because I'm not going to play a song just for you. And then everyone leaves the dance floor. You and your homegirl in the middle of the dance floor dancing by yourselves and everyone's just staring at you. So now I've got to reset the vibe again Now.

Speaker 4 51:56

I've got to play something.

Speaker 1 51:57

You've got to build it back up again.

Speaker 2 52:06

Yes, I have a plan to get everybody to the dance floor by 12. By 12.30. I start slow and by 12.30 I'm doing dance music.

Speaker 3 52:15

You can tell too, when they don't do the build up. They don't you know for the first song right out the gate. They try something way too hard and heavy. It's like no one's drunk yet Let people get some drinks.

Speaker 2 52:26

When people get inside of a bar, they're not gonna go Straight to the dance floor, they're going straight to the bar and they gotta get their things. And then they start drinking, and you do, I do vibe music. Vibe music first, like it's like All, just like Shit, like this.

Speaker 5 52:38

Like whatever Foreplay. Yes, you gotta like.

Speaker 2 52:41

Yeah, it's all about you know it's a little, don't look, I'm not looking at you, it's just a little you know just a little tap, tap, yeah, yeah, absolutely get them going and then you know you let them get their drinks in and then, like I love watching the crowd, like go from one spot and I can see them all where they're like oh, we gotta hit.

Speaker 3 53:08

They're getting their friends, especially the first like couple seconds of the song you decide to play.

Speaker 2 53:13

You see everybody go oh, I'm like, oh, I got them, yep let's go.

Speaker 4 53:17

So they're trying to drag their boyfriends yeah, so I I've been meaning to ask you what is your code red song. You know, let's say the crowd, they're not in it. You're trying everything you have. What is the song you can play where you're like all right, they're gonna get the dance.

Speaker 2 53:38

No hands, oh, no hands. I will stop all the music if it's, I'll be silent for like two seconds. And it was a look at me. I be like listen, boom, listen to this track, bitch and.

Speaker 5 53:49

Ed was gonna go every time, every time.

Speaker 2 53:51

I got a reset right there and Ed was here and now we're gonna keep. We were trying again now we're gonna try again yeah

Speaker 4 53:56

yeah, dude, that it's seriously like that song.

Speaker 2 54:00

I will never just sit still to if I see somebody sitting down when I play no Hands, I'm just going to cut the song off. I'm like get the fuck off. Yeah they're a fucking loser. You weirdo L7 weenie.

Speaker 5 54:14

Get him out of here.

Speaker 2 54:15

It's security. You know what I mean, yeah.

Speaker 1 54:19

No, that's a great song. We're all raised on that song.

Speaker 2 54:22

Everyone knows the lyrics If you're white black, you know that fucking song. If you're white black, you know that fucking song 100%. If you're at the club right now, you know this fucking song. I'm going to play it.

Speaker 4 54:31

Dude, Waka Flocka in general will get the crowd going. Are you a Waka Flocka fan? Absolutely Really. What Waka? Okay?

Speaker 3 54:42

I'm always down for it. He's right up there with Chief Keef dude.

Speaker 2 54:48

So Chief Keef Is touchy, cause like he's kinda more niche. Yes, I'll play it, cause if I see that I'm gonna play a couple songs.

Speaker 1 54:55

Well, you're a Chicago guy, I love Chicago.

Speaker 2 54:59

I'm always gonna play Love Sosa. If I have a set At a club, I'm playing Love.

Speaker 1 55:02

Sosa Another banger Cause.

Speaker 4 55:04

If you don't fuck with Love Sosa, fuck, you Get out of here.

Speaker 2 55:09

You're a book boy, you're a fucking piece of shit.

Speaker 4 55:11

If you don't like, love Sosa.

Speaker 2 55:13

Yeah, exactly. But yeah, I'm always going to play Love Sosa, I'm always going to play some Kanye.

Speaker 3 55:17

So what about newer tracks from big name artists but just haven't fully integrated into main you?

Speaker 2 55:25

know what I mean, oh see, it all depends into main. Or like you know what I mean, like, oh see, like all the pins, like I feel like the crazy thing is if you go on tiktok and you just go through like what, you just play those fucking songs people gonna.

Speaker 1 55:36

Yeah, the white girl a million dollar whatever yeah, whatever is popping on tiktok you

Speaker 2 55:41

can play that shit that's like that's like a low hanging fruit, but I like playing like like low realist shit, like I like playing global realist shit. I like playing like low realest shit. I like playing low realest shit.

Speaker 1 55:50

Women rappers are way better than boy rappers right now Drake or Kendrick. I'm a Drake fan.

Speaker 2 55:56

I'm also a Drake fan but I'm a Drake fan but I can always be like, damn, he got fucked up you know what I mean when your homeboy real recognizes my homeboy got fucked up man. I saw him get his ass beat especially the concert. Dude, that was a. That was a. That was a disc concert. I've never seen a disc concert before, that's never been done before this whole, every song that kendrick played, I felt like it was a diss track. Even it was all right, whatever, whatever he's playing.

Speaker 2 56:24

I'm like this is a diss track it's like he was playing.

Speaker 5 56:26

I'm like this is a diss track.

Speaker 1 56:27

It's like he was planning it from day one.

Speaker 3 56:29

He had celebrity appearances that were just endorsing hey, this guy won Like YG, and then we're a bit like Drake Drake's the biggest YG.

Speaker 5 56:39

I can't say it my nigga YG.

Speaker 2 56:42

I'm like damn, yeah, YG does, but why is he over here?

Speaker 3 56:46

Why is?

Speaker 2 56:46

he at this concert.

Speaker 3 56:48

Drizzy no, drake's probably calling like get up.

Speaker 5 56:50

Drizzy he's probably calling up everybody the night of like hold on, man, what the fuck is going on where you at where you at why is he in LA right now?

Speaker 2 57:00

why is he in LA? Why is he in my phone call?

Speaker 3 57:01

oh, dude, but yeah.

Speaker 2 57:03

I think Kendrick's a great rapper, Drake's a great rapper. I was more of a Drake fan, but it's just like man.

Speaker 3 57:11

But it's like they each represent different parts of the industry, yeah, and different audiences.

Speaker 2 57:15

I didn't like that motherfuckers were just throwing shit out there without proof. Yeah, because at that point it's like okay, now it's just like internet, like oh, he's a pitiful. Yeah, well, like how, bro. Yeah, well, like how, that's really he should probably be going to jail. Like what is somebody lock him up?

Speaker 3 57:33

they'd be that, but you can't help but think of it like now whenever you listen to any fucking drake song now after all the shit went down.

Speaker 2 57:38

You can't help but have that thought in your head not the whole time.

Speaker 3 57:42

It could be like not based in any sort of reality.

Debating Diddy's Allegations

Speaker 2 57:44

No, but you can't help. Oh hey, baby girl. How old is that baby girl you're talking about?

Speaker 3 57:48

Yeah, is this a real baby.

Speaker 1 57:50

Yeah, what's going on?

Speaker 3 57:50

You're watching Stranger Things.

Speaker 2 57:52

I want the fucking Millie Bobby, Did you? I was like, oh, could it be this girl? I'm like dude. I can see it, I can see it. Hey, there's no context.

Speaker 5 58:09

He just said that Now I believe that your child is Dave Freeze. It's such a 2024 rat beef Because it's not. It's like an internet beef.

Speaker 4 58:15

They're just, they're just saying shit To say it.

Speaker 5 58:17

It's the same thing as the internet, where you can just Jump behind a keyboard and be like You're a pedophile.

Speaker 3 58:21

And now everyone's like oh, this guy's a pedophile, just on a different format.

Speaker 2 58:24

Exactly. It's on a track Back in the 90s. I was like but in the 90s you could say anything too. They had no fucking Google. You're like, hey, this dude did this on Tuesday.

Speaker 1 58:34

Oh shit, they couldn't even look it up on their own, you're like oh shit he did.

Speaker 3 58:42

That's when this guy just said that's.

Speaker 2 58:43

Yeah, that was when it was real beef though.

Speaker 1 58:46

Damn Goddamn RP Drizzy.

Speaker 2 58:48

BBL Drizzy BBL.

Speaker 1 58:50

Drizzy.

Speaker 2 58:51

Hey, actually.

Speaker 1 58:51

That's a great song too. That was a great song Apparently. The AI company that made that is being sued because they were using popular songs in the industry to analyze it to make that beat.

Speaker 2 59:06

They trained their AI To do that from a popular song. They trained the AI with songs that they didn't have licensing for and they're being sued. That was from Metro. Boomin made that beat.

Speaker 1 59:18

I don't know if it's related to Drake suing them or what the deal is, but that company that made BBL Drizzy.

Speaker 4 59:26

Are you friends with P Diddy at all? Who's?

Speaker 2 59:30

that we don't, we don't, no, so you have not been to his parties. I've never been to a DJ Diddy party. I wouldn't, I don't know, no.

Speaker 4 59:41

I knew you were better Would you now?

Speaker 2 59:43

I wouldn't I wouldn't?

Speaker 5 59:48

Who is? No, I'm just saying that it could be a lot of exposure. This is an interview. Why are you?

Speaker 2 59:51

guys trying to do a fucking hit piece on it right now. Listen, I don't know Diddy. I ain't never known Diddy. I ain't going.

Speaker 4 59:55

No, Diddy Wonka would you be willing to take a butter shot with me over this?

Speaker 2 1:00:01

Over Diddy, over Diddy.

Speaker 1 1:00:07

Over not fucking with Diddy.

Speaker 2 1:00:08

I am anti-Diddy. Are you not? Are you pro-Diddy? Hold on, wait a minute.

Speaker 1 1:00:13

I don't know if I should be pro or against. I feel like my initial knee jerk reaction is that there's got to be some fake shit out there. Did you see the video? I didn't see anything. I actually don't even know what's going on.

Speaker 2 1:00:25

You don't know what's going on.

Speaker 1 1:00:27

Wait a minute. Wait a minute, wait a minute.

Speaker 2 1:00:29

You're going to listen back on this after watching the video. Wait a minute, you Okay, so listen.

Speaker 1 1:00:33

Yeah, dude, that's a break. So what we're?

Speaker 2 1:00:34

going to do is we're going to take a commercial break. He's not pro-ant.

Speaker 5 1:00:43

Should we do, we'll be right back for my P Diddy break.

Speaker 1 1:00:45

Alright, After further investigation. I'm no longer somewhat pro-Diddy.

Speaker 4 1:00:54

I'm full anti-Diddy. You're not standing on that hill.

Speaker 1 1:00:58

I do not want to be on that side of the argument.

Speaker 4 1:01:02

No, I would say full-on this man.

Speaker 1 1:01:05

There might be some accusations that are true.

Speaker 2 1:01:09

That's my thought too. I'll say okay, so he denied everything, like he did earlier. But the moment I saw that video I go okay. That means at least 75% of whatever's been told about you is true. Because the fact that you are okay with doing that. That's crazy, crazy, crazy, literally assaulting someone in the middle of a hotel and the way that she left the room and he was sleeping and she was trying to tiptoe away.

Speaker 2 1:01:37

She had no shoes on and you came out of here and whooped on that shorty and that is crazy. That's insane.

Speaker 4 1:01:44

I grew up in a household that if I rose my voice to my mom it was like the end of the world. Yes, so the fact of even doing anything physical towards a woman, or even yelling at a woman, is crazy.

Speaker 2 1:01:59

I'll yell at you you fuck up.

Speaker 4 1:02:02

I'm going to tell you what's up.

Speaker 2 1:02:04

I will be honest with you. I will be real with you.

Speaker 3 1:02:06

Why is she shadowboxing over there, dude?

Speaker 2 1:02:11

It's called trauma.

Party Chat With DJ Guests

Speaker 4 1:02:14

Yeah, that's crazy, okay, okay yo Next subject you didn't stand on that diddy hill anymore.

Speaker 5 1:02:19

Can I just point out real quick about how happy Cody should be right now, or how happy Sam is right now? Because, just so we're clear, sam's the one who brought up P Diddy, not Cody. Sam put this up and now he's gaslighting Cody into being the bad guy about it.

Speaker 4 1:02:33

Hey, no, Diddy baby no.

Speaker 1 1:02:36

Diddy man. Alright, we'll take this shot to Diddy.

Speaker 2 1:02:39

Hey.

Speaker 3 1:02:41

How about to?

Speaker 2 1:02:41

Cassie.

Speaker 1 1:02:43

To Cassie Well, boys, what do you think? We wrap this thing up, wonka. Thank you for coming on, man.

Speaker 1 1:02:52

We'll see you again at our Halloween party at your show, at your show here in a couple weeks as soon as this is done, we're gonna go and get the tickets for the film, or we will be there if there's tickets left. Who knows, in the last hour and a half, we don't know we will be there, hey, if there's, if there's tickets left, who knows, in the last hour and a half, we don't know, I feel you'll be all right, we'll be all right and if we have any song requests, no uh, electric slide.

Speaker 1 1:03:17

Oh, I like that, will you please?

Speaker 4 1:03:18

play sweet caroline, that's another song that white people love hey, wanga, we we really appreciate you driving all the way over here. It means the world to us. It was a great time, man. Thank you guys.

Speaker 2 1:03:31

Nice to meet you guys. Maybe we can hang out outside of work, absolutely. Cheers boys Cheers. See you at Froggy's.