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The Unique Path of a Gen Z Marine Ft. Logan Hable
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Today’s episode dives into the life of a Gen Z Marine, highlighting the unique experiences and perspectives that come with military service. Our guest, Logan Hable, shares his journey through boot camp, daily life in the barracks, and the camaraderie formed in the tough realities of military life.
• Understanding generational differences within military culture
• Life before and after boot camp
• Daily routines and challenges faced as a Marine
• Personal growth and lessons learned during service
• The importance of camaraderie and relationships in the military
• Real-life stories from deployment experiences
• Advice for potential recruits considering military service
0:00 Military Generation Gap in Boot Camp
5:48 Boot Camp Experience and ASVAB Test
13:23 Strong Bonds Formed in Marine Training
18:21 Marine Daily Routine and Transition
29:28 Global Deployment Experiences in Military
32:48 Australian Wildlife and Deployment Reflection
39:03 Military Life and Experience Details
43:30 Military Life and Transition Decisions
47:44 Marine Corps Training and Transition
54:58 Military Fitness Tests and Deployment Discussion
1:05:42 Electric Line School Challenges
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Military Generation Gap in Boot Camp
Speaker 1ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, I welcome you for an extremely special episode to my heart. Today we have my best friend in the whole wide world, my marine brother in christ, logan habel, the gen x marine. Welcome to the pod no gen z gen z dude.
Speaker 2I've been fucking this up all day, gen gen x, explain them to me please, gen x would be, like my parents, our parents.
Speaker 3Yeah, I saw like 40s, 50s I just looked this up of when uh millennials ended and gen z started. Yeah, dude, I didn't even realize that gen z is like 1996, good god I did not know. Yeah, it's I think it. I think gen z started in 97 and millennials ended in 96 yeah, I was like that sounds I thought it was like at the turn of the century yeah, because I'm right at the tail end of the millennials.
Speaker 3Yeah, I was thinking that I was like the beginning of the gen z's, like my people are the ones who fucked the world up, but like they were dicking the dog like five years before I was born yeah, not my fault.
Speaker 4Isn't gen z like super huge too? Doesn't it go to like 2010 or something? Yeah, it is. Yeah, it's a huge.
Speaker 2Well, I guess they all are they're all big generations, because I mean, I know a lot of like older millennials that I'm like there's no, you're not a millennial oh yeah, you don't even have social media yeah, um, hey, bill, you're the only gen z marine that I know for sure, but maybe the only gen z person I know in the military yeah, there's a pretty good chance, I just not many.
Speaker 2I read a statistic that had that said only 12 percent of eligible gen z is even willing to be in the military. Yeah, when you were in service, how big was the spread between people that were similar age to you to older people?
Speaker 4It was actually pretty close. Really. There's easily hundreds of people that are 18 also joining at the same time that I was.
Speaker 2I don't think a lot of old heads really go in, I suppose. Yeah, when you're joining, let's say at what do they call that the RSS? No, what's?
Speaker 1the thing you do.
Speaker 2They call that no when you're, when you're like, what's the thing you got to go through before you go into the military?
Speaker 1Oh, like RJ, like training camp, like what's the training camp? What all the nerd kids do?
Speaker 3Oh, okay, we're not talking about ROTC kids, I would assume.
Speaker 4We're not talking about stinky in boot camp. Mostly is younger. Oh, everybody, yeah, um, okay, but there is always a few stragglers because you can join all the way up till I want to say you're 27, yeah, so I missed it. Yeah, you missed all. I missed it. But I want to say there will be like, so, like the boot camp class, like 100 people or whatever, for like your platoon, how many people make it through? Probably 80, I mean 70 somewhere around there.
Speaker 1I mean, it's not that fucking cut throat, is it like?
Speaker 4it's not like people are dropping like flies no, it's just basically getting yelled at spitting your face, and that's do you. Do you weed out the week early like do you do people?
Speaker 4leave pretty quickly and then not many people leave once you get into the shits well, there's different type people, I guess, like there's people that get injured, like say say, if you break your ankle and you have to wait six months, it's either you wait six months in boot camp you can't leave, or else you have to restart and you could be halfway through it break your ankle and you gotta wait five months just sitting while you're there, oh yeah, and you're still just getting treated like you when you're done and then start at week five when you're, when you're actually in boot camp?
Speaker 2what are you doing when you're not like doing the obstacle course before we are trying not to get?
Speaker 3noticed before we dive into that, as hard is like like say you start with 100, say you end with 75. Is that more like self-policed by the other, like boot camp kids or is it like like you're getting bullied out of here?
Speaker 2yeah?
Speaker 3that's how I feel, like when I went to line school, dude our teacher, maybe you are not gonna compare, to compare line school to boot camp.
Speaker 2Absolutely you are. Oh my God, what do you mean? You are not running through obstacle courses and shit.
Speaker 3That's literally all it is.
Speaker 2That's what line school is. You guys are fucking going through tires and shit.
Speaker 3You climb fucking 60 poles in a day and tell me you're not absolutely shot at the end of it.
Speaker 3That's literally what it is. That's what the first, the first two weeks of it is. Literally that's all it is is only physical exercise. Drop down and tie 20 wires for me all. Right before dumbfuck interrupted me, dude, I'm. I was saying it was way more self-policed by the kids that were there that were like this guy sucks at what he's doing, like we like not not bullied him out, but like very much, there's outcasts immediately picking on the private piles totally.
Speaker 4There's definitely like outcasts, but it's more like it is all mental. It's barely physical at all, like, yeah, there's a couple physical tests or whatever, but it is all mental. You're just getting fucking screamed at, you're trying to be a fucking ghost in the corner. You just the less you are noticed, the significantly better time you're gonna have well, it's, yeah, it's all psychological.
Speaker 2They're trying to break you. They want to make you a machine.
Speaker 4Well, like the first day you're there, you get thrown into these fucking like beds and then you don't sleep that first night and it just kind of sets the the tempo and then you're just fucked do.
Speaker 2They is you see in movies and whatnot like they'll wake you up at random times. Be like all right everyone make your bed. Well, no that that does happen that that actually sucks that they'll just randomly come in there, turn on the lights and, like everyone, let's go. Oh yeah, what are you? What are you doing when you're not like like training or whatever like? Do you have jobs? Are you like cleaning? Are you what are you in boot camp?
Speaker 4yeah, yeah, so you're just cleaning you're. You are the drill sergeant's bitch basically. You're doing whatever the fuck they don't want to do. You're cleaning. You're fucking Doing laundry. All laundry you got to do kind of on your own time, okay, and you got to do it in the middle of the night because that's the only time you got. You're just basically their bitch. You're going to be scrubbing showers. You're going to be fucking doing whatever the fuck they want.
Boot Camp Experience and ASVAB Test
Speaker 1It sucks gonna be fucking doing whatever the fuck they want. It sucks. It does sound like it sucks, honestly. One thing that that I was thinking about before leading into this episode is are you, can you walk us through the night before, because I'm sure you were you with your family when you got sent off to boot camp?
Speaker 4yeah. So how it worked for me is I had to drive up to well, I didn't drive. My parents dropped me off. I went to Duluth RSS and my parents drove me up there. Then you meet up with the recruiter and then they drive you down to Minneapolis, which I was like. Why the fuck do I have to go up to Duluth? This sucks. I have to wait an extra three hours to go. This is just fuck this.
Speaker 4And then you go down, you go to Duluth or, uh, minneapolis, and then you got to do all your swearing in shit like put your hand on the book and yeah, and then you got like 30 18 year olds sitting there with their hand up fucking, just swearing something that hey, I'm gonna do this for four years, this is gonna suck. So and then after that you go take, you say goodbye to your parents and then you go take a flight to wherever you're going to boot camp. So the Navy goes somewhere. I went to San Diego.
Speaker 2So you already knew I want to do the Marines. Yeah, you get pre-picked and sent to different boot camps based on where you want to enlist.
Speaker 3Yeah, it's only wherever you enlist at, you don't enlist in the military, and then they're like you're going to be a Marine. See, I thought part of it was that you can't choose unless you qualify.
Speaker 1They look at Cody and they're like ah, navy Coast Guard.
Speaker 2I thought it was like some sort of sorting hat from Harry Potter you put your name on a piece of paper and it tells you where you're going.
Speaker 4No, it's like physical qualifications. You've got to take the ASVAB and it's wherever you can get in. That's where you choose.
Speaker 2Yeah, okay, okay, that makes sense. So there is some sort of assorting. I know you want to be a Marine, but listen, dude you're kind of dumb as a box of rocks. We're going to put you, maybe somewhere else.
Speaker 1So I guess, to kind of round to my question, the your last night of like not at at boot camp, like your last night at home, when you're laying there knowing you're going to wake up and your whole life is going to change from the next moment on. Like what were you thinking that last night? Like holy fuck dude, this is going to be crazy.
Speaker 4Dude, honestly it's going to sound a little odd, but it was like one of my first times in a hotel, because you have to sleep in a hotel, then they fly you to wherever I was like, oh dude, this is fucking sick. Can I order room service?
Speaker 2Like I wasn't even thinking of it at all.
Speaker 4It was like the last thought on my mind. And then you just show up and it's like, oh, dude, dude, what the fuck am I doing? This sucks. And we had two buddies go before me and like, well, I can't fucking leave because I'm gonna look like a pussy. Yeah, I, I have to stick this out like I really don't want to do this. This sucks. And then I just kind of stuck it out no, here we are.
Speaker 1Yeah, that is nice that you had two close friends enlist at the same time. So it's like I'm not gonna be the fucking one that backs?
Speaker 2were they also going for marines?
Speaker 3yep. That's got to be the heaviest weight of the whole thing. It's like I don't want to quit because I don't want to be a bitch. It has nothing to do with. Are you actually able to do it? It's just like I don't want to look like a pussy. I get that this sucks, but I'm a fucking-. I can't be that person for him before he went, just fucking getting ready for it. If he'd have came home, came back two weeks later, he sure as shit wouldn't be on the podcast right now.
Speaker 1We never talk to this loser again I'd be sitting there just like a hermit in my room, just fucking scared uh dude, I couldn't imagine that feeling so you get through basic and everything went pretty well for you, I'd assume and and you, you mentioned this test you have to take before you actually are in basic. That kind of helps sort where you're going to be, and your story of you taking your test is one of my favorites and I would just love to hear it on the pod because it just cracks me up every time.
Speaker 4So before you go you have to take an ASVAB, if you guys know what that is, and it's just basically a test if you're like a retard or not.
Speaker 2It is just common sense. Is it like the ACT or like? What kind of questions are on it?
Speaker 4Simpler, it's like dude. It's been six years since I've taken it, so it's been a little bit here.
Speaker 2Like basic math. It is basic math Like. Jerry has 20 watermelons, kenny has four. How many watermelons?
Speaker 4do they have type of questions yes, okay. And then it's like just common sense stuff, um. And then there's a couple like oddballs in there but, um, basically, if you get above like an 87, which the scores are percentile wise, there's not like an actual score. So if you got like an 87 and higher, you can basically do whatever you want. And for the infantry you need to get like a 35, 38, something, something low. You can be that brick wall and probably make it, you know.
Speaker 1You could be bean boy, oh 100% 100% and I got a 93.
Speaker 4Yeah, I think it was 93. It was 92. Low 90s, you know. So I was like, oh well, I can do whatever the fuck I want. Recruiter comes to the house, he's sitting here like trying to talk me into jobs my parents around the table. I'm sitting there and he's like, yeah, you could go fucking, you could do intel. You get like a super secret security clearance. Go do whatever you want. You know like basically anything in this book free game. I was like I mean, I kind of want to. If something happens, I think it'd be kind of cool to kick doors. You know like this would be cool. So I went infantry and basically just surrounded by all the fellas, great time.
Speaker 1Just the bros of the bros, ready to go into it.
Speaker 4Basically, the dumbest job you can choose is what I chose.
Speaker 3That's a power move coming in being the 93 guy and hanging out with the 38 guys oh it's beautiful, you're just. You're way smarter than all of them the whole time not smarter, like so.
Speaker 4I scored better on a test, yes, but the fellas I don't know. Like they might not be book smart, but fuck are they street smart like they know what they're doing?
Speaker 1so I'll give them that you know well and just to beat and just to be like growing up in Pine City, such a small town, and now you're around all these different people. That have had different walks of life. You know it's similar to going to college, just way more fucking badass.
Speaker 3Hold on, you are not going to compare college to the fucking military right now.
Speaker 1Dude, I had to give the military its credit.
Speaker 4It's kind of weird because when you go you're like the minority at least I was. I was like complete minority. Over half of like that boot camp they spoke spanish, like spanish. I. I'm just sitting there like dude, I don't know what the fuck they're saying. It's like it's dark. They were all trying to go to bed. They're sitting there speaking spanish, just loud as fuck in the corner. I'm like dude, I don't know what the fuck. Are they talking shit or something like what is going on here.
Speaker 2You know, did there? Was there ever any friction between the people in boot camp like are is there ever any guys? Like yeah getting into fights in the bunkhouse or anything like that yeah, but it generally it it are.
Speaker 4It always waits till like lights go out or else if it somehow comes to the light of day while like everybody's still awake. Oh, those two guys are getting fucked over by the fucking.
Speaker 1Like the people in charge of us, they're getting fucked do you guys ever pull any soap bars in the pillowcases or anything crazy?
Speaker 2what is that?
Speaker 1you ever seen like a?
Speaker 2metal jacket like beat someone with.
Speaker 4Yeah, we didn't like I don't think we beat anybody. Um, we had one guy he was it's like bunk beds. There's two bunk beds and then it's like a fully concrete roof, um, and it's got like these big beams running through it. And we had one guy like running around on the top like jumping beds and he hit his head on one of the beams and fell and then he like cracked open his fucking head um did he get sent home?
Speaker 4he. He got pulled out in an ambulance, and then I woke up and he was there the next morning with stitches.
Speaker 1That's marine quality baby. That's the type of guy I want why.
Speaker 2Marines? Why, specifically, marines? Were you just like, hell yeah, I want to carry 100 pounds on my back and run through the mud?
Speaker 4Or was?
Speaker 2there a deeper calling to it.
Speaker 4Fuck. No, this is going to sound dumb. I was like, well, I guess it's. I've always been told I couldn't do it.
Speaker 2I want to do it. Oh, yeah, yeah, the chip on your shoulder route I would imagine, is a hell of a lot easier to get through it.
Speaker 4It's like almost the forbidden fruit. You know, and you see it, and it's like, well, everybody says don't do it, everybody says it's dumb there, and then raps yeah I guess that makes sense to me.
Speaker 2I would imagine some of those guys that you met, you probably still have a great relationship. Oh yeah, because you go through some of that stuff with these people that are around you, you're I mean, you're like family at that point oh 100% call that, was it trauma bonding?
Speaker 3yeah, yeah, trauma bonding oh, 100%.
Speaker 4I'm definitely trauma, trauma, bonded with the fellas.
Speaker 4You got to think you're living like, say, our, our fucking, like rooms are like the size of that living room and you're just living next to every single one of your buddies that you see on the daily and you just, hey, I want to drink. I'm gonna knock on fucking this guy's door. You guys just go get hammered on the catwalk next, you know, like 10 minutes later, there's like 12 of you and you're just sitting there like drinking, having a good time on the weekend, like it's, it is the coolest thing, just living next to all of your best friends for three and a half years, yeah, and it's almost like hard to leave.
Speaker 2It's almost like line school dude I had a buddy that lived in the fucking apartment right above mine. No, I get it, yeah yeah, no, I lived in the dorms my freshman year of college, freshman year of college, and I think that being with all these people all the time granted a lot less trauma going on, I would assume, but just being around people that are similar to you and going through the same thing as you at the same time, I mean people.
Speaker 3I still talk to regularly. You guys are all just a bunch of little country bumpkins. You're just in the big city now.
Speaker 1Oh my god, it is crazy, though, how close you get to people when you're in the same area and you see each other every single day. I think what?
Speaker 3you're trying to say, is it's crazy how close you get to people when you have to get close to them?
Speaker 1yeah, absolutely like. It's just like high school dude. How like what?
Speaker 3percentage of your high school friends. Do you still talk to you?
Speaker 2I talk to maybe 20 of them, maybe I mean I talk to all of my high school friends regularly every single one.
Speaker 1Cody peaked in high school. I swear to god he's hanging on to it that's still my core group of friends.
Speaker 3It's all my high school. Maybe he didn't have enough.
Speaker 4Friends in high school is the biggest problem maybe you might just not have branched out enough, I mean, hey, we went to the same school.
Speaker 2There's not a lot to pick from.
Speaker 1No, you know, yeah, and cody like I, he's way, way older and like we already knew him as a loser, Like it's like, oh, there's a guy that thinks he's cool.
Speaker 2This is all I could get, so I just stuck with him. They're dumb enough to stick around.
Speaker 4He settled for the bottom of the barrel.
Speaker 2you know, yeah, I think I have a rare scenario, though, honestly, I don't think a lot of people hang out with their high school friends very often.
Speaker 1Dude, I'm in the Because you, my closest friend, still are my high school friend and this dumb dick motherfucker literally lives with like four of his high school friends.
Speaker 3I didn't say I didn't talk to any of them, I said percentage dude.
Speaker 2I didn't say any of them. Oh, I'm sorry, I just wasn't Mr Fucking Popular like.
Speaker 4Mitch. Sorry, I didn't know. 60 fucking people, Mitch.
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Speaker 4Dude having to do all my shit. It was basically moving out Like having to do all my shit myself. I guess, like say, if something goes wrong with, like my car, oh, I can't fucking call my parents anymore. This sucks, I'm in California, I just got to pay someone to do it or do it myself. Um, or just kind of like going to the field. That sucked, that's not ideal.
Speaker 1Did you ever have a day where you woke up and you just didn't want to do it that day? Oh, 100%. It's just like I don't want to fucking run today.
Speaker 4Oh, 100%. So like the day to day, you wake up at six and you're sitting here in like this green little short shorts, green shirt, you go run around at like 630, do your morning physical like PT thing. I'd every day wake up at six, hung over, hating my life, be like, yeah, why the fuck am I here right now? Like, realistically, what could be the worst possible thing if I didn't go right now, if I didn't walk out to go work out? Never did it, but I always thought about it. Yeah and it I was close. I was close a couple times.
Speaker 2Oh, I bet I would imagine everyone has a similar story to that. Like no one really probably wants to be there doing that In the heat of it 6.30 am.
Speaker 4especially when you're hungover, who the fuck wants to wake up and go run five miles? Fuck that. Yeah, that's good, I hated it.
Speaker 1That's a really good point, not ideal, and so once you get out of basic, you go into infantry and you're living in the barracks. Are you in a similar spot to where you were for boot camp, did you?
Speaker 4No.
Speaker 1So did you have to? Where did you do boot camp, and then where were you stationed?
Speaker 4So well, okay. So I was stationed, like very close to where I did boot camp. So I went boot camp in San Diego. I was stationed in Camp Pendleton, california, which is right in between San Clemente and Oceanside, so about an hour and a half north of San Diego. So it's very close. Same temperature like same climate. I guess. But way different, like scenarios, sleeping and all that wise.
Speaker 1So at this point you're out of basic and you're into more of like an everyday, sustainable lifestyle of doing your four years. What like being infantry? What is your day to day looking like Once you're you know you're out of boot camp? At this point you've moved on. What's your day to day like?
Speaker 4It's generally like wake up at like 545, 6-ish. You go work out in the morning, your squad leader or whoever's in charge in charge you like they run you around, do whatever, like yell at you, and then you go back to your room, you shower, go grab food and, uh, you go train. They go figure out something to do, so you do like combat lifesaver class or something. You'll sit there crisscross, crisscross, applesauce fucking taking notes doing whatever. Then go running around again.
Speaker 1Then you normally get off work around like 4, 3 or 4-ish Sure, so a little longer than a 9 to 5, but you get a little bit of sustainability in your life at that point.
Speaker 4Yeah, there's quite a few days where you just sit in your room and do jack shit. Yeah, I'm sitting there playing fucking video games all the time, just sitting in my room Damn.
Speaker 1Nothing in your room. Do jack shit.
Speaker 4Yeah, I'm sitting there playing fucking video games all the time just sitting in my room, damn nothing to do.
Speaker 1So sometimes it's not bad. Sometimes you would go on like these hikes in the mountains and in these state parks and you'd have to like shit in a bag and carry it with you. What, how would, when would those come up and how long would they normally last?
Speaker 4you probably do like a big training event. I want to say like once every, like three, four months, like big training events, I guess. So like bridge, what? Or uh, bridgeport, that was the only time that you actually had to like shit in a bag because that was a national park, so they didn't want just a ton of fucking. Yeah, 150 marines shitting fucking in a very particular area and then you have a ton of campers walking around. Holy fuck, that's a lot of shit, you know so yeah, that makes sense to me, bro, that is one thing.
Speaker 1Like they, they just changed the law in minnesota. When you're out on the ice, you can't just pee on the ice anymore oh really, it's like literally, yeah, like it's a tick a full ticket you can get a dog.
Speaker 3You can get a ticket if your dog pisses on the ice huh but how do you clean that?
Speaker 2I suppose, like what do you? How do you avoid?
Speaker 1that. No, you have to pee in a bottle and then keep it dude what about the dog?
Speaker 4that's what I think they can tell you.
Speaker 3I've never heard of anyone actually getting a ticket for it, but they can technically get you for it. So I can pee in a bush, but I can't pee on the ice I don't know where do you think.
Speaker 4Where do you think?
Speaker 3the. Where do you think the fucking fish pee dude yeah, like what the fuck?
Speaker 2that's crazy yeah, I suppose I mean, I get it, contaminating the lake and whatever else. But yeah, that seems a little overboard, that's kind of I can understand, like that's the thing.
Speaker 1But you go on a one week trip and you're in the same fishing spot the piss spot.
Speaker 3You need a designated piss spot. Day one, my plan is always to piss in the exact same spot.
Speaker 2So then it looks like I only pissed once the whole time. So after basic, how long before you get moved from basic to where you're stationed at so immediate or do you go?
Speaker 4home first or so kind of the whole timeline is. There's basic is 13 weeks, so like three months give or take, like very close, um. And then you get 10 days of leave to like go home fucking say see all your buddies with your cool haircut or whatever you know, walk around with your marine sweatshirt, your buddies with your cool haircut or whatever you know.
Speaker 4Walk around with your marine sweatshirt and then after those 10 days, you go back to whatever job you chose. So, like mine was infantry, I guess, and then mine was my job, school was two months long. You go do those two months and then after that two months, that's when you go to your unit. That's where you figure out where you're getting stationed and then you just kind of stay there until whenever you get orders or the end of your contract.
Speaker 2Dang. Okay, I did not expect there to be any sort of a gap. I guess I don't know why. I thought you just went straight to it.
Speaker 4I want to say, right after bootcamp I was home for like 17 days or something, because they had 17 days until the next ITB class. They gave me 10 days, then a week of recruiter's assistance. So for the last seven days of my boot camp leave I was driving up to duluth I want to say twice and then he just told me don't worry about it and then basically like, helping recruit people, yeah, okay, oh, dude it was when this motherfucker would come home for a few days.
Speaker 2it was a burden on on his friends Cause you know there was an expectation to let it rip.
Speaker 1I had to talk to him right before he was getting out to be like hey, dude, it's not always like this when you get home.
Speaker 4I remember that conversation you gotta have some different expectations. Oh yeah, we just get slammed. Yeah, do it all a hundred percent.
Speaker 1I mean it do it all 100. I mean it was crazy.
Speaker 2Dude, habel was like I would not want to call him a pussy, but he was a total pussy going into into boot camp and then this motherfucker came home five inches taller, fucking ripped as fuck, 10 times the tattoos he had before I do remember, like the small amount of partying I did with habel in high school and then, like there was just like this three-year gap, like a four-year probably.
Speaker 3Yeah I'm just like I never even saw him once and he came back. I'm like, dude, you're an adult now what's really happened to you.
Speaker 1Where'd this facial hair and shit? What the fuck? Who are you dude? He was the friend you could kind of push around you know and it's like, oh, he's my protector.
Speaker 2No, that makes sense why you would want to go into the Marines, then, honestly, if you had this kind of like you were a smaller guy. Yeah, right, right and those were the badasses and you probably didn't see yourself as that.
Speaker 4No, Well, I mean, that's not the reason I went. It's just I don't know. I just kind of was like it's like the forbidden fruit Totally, I just had to have it.
Speaker 2I guess Totally. Fruit, totally, I just had to have it. I guess, totally, when you actually got stationed to where you were going, um, was it what you thought it was going to be like? No, what? What? The immediate start of like okay, now I'm actually enlisted. What is that like?
Speaker 4you get yelled at a lot. Uh, you're basically everybody's bitch that deployed until you deploy. So, like for my first, I want to say it was a year and a half work up to our deployment, which was just japan. So basically just sailing around on a ship for three months, sitting in japan for three months, um, leading up until that, you're basically everybody who has deployed did the last deployments. Bitch, you just gotta walk around. You gotta get a dumb ass looking haircut and you just gotta walk around and do whatever they say.
Speaker 2Fucking bend the knee do whatever, even if you didn't want to oh, there's no choice was. Was there ever times where it was like motherfucker? I don't oh, I know you're just making me do this, because you're just doing it oh no, they would.
Speaker 4They would think like just shit, that they didn't want to do and thought would be funny to see you do. And then you just end up doing it.
Speaker 1Damn Well, there's no choice we can cut this if you don't want it in there. But you, I remember you telling me a story about when you, you like mistitled somebody. One of your sergeants told you to mess with this captain or some sorts, and he followed you back to your room. You know what I'm talking about no are you talking about?
Speaker 4the time that I told you that, well, this isn't me but I.
Speaker 1I told you that, like some guy, got arrested for hazing no, you told me that that somebody told you to mistitle this guy. He was like a captain you you're. What are you supposed to say when, when you see somebody that's a higher rank than you?
Speaker 4you just call them by their title. I'm a little lost here. I don't know what story you're talking about.
Speaker 2I want to hear about this person getting arrested, if, if you don't remember this yeah, dude, apparently cut everything.
Speaker 1I just said jesus christ.
Speaker 4Well, I'm not gonna lie to you, the arrested one's probably gonna have to get cut, because I don't know if that's still open. I'm assuming it's closed, okay we can talk about it afterwards, then okay, all right, yeah, holy hell doesn't imply it doesn't involve me at all. It's just something that happened, like right before I got there.
Speaker 2Yeah, okay, so okay, so um, definitely scared the shit out of me. When you get, how long do you know, or how long of a heads up do you get before you know you're getting deployed, and how long or in that do they tell you where you're going? What's like the call like Like.
Speaker 3What information Do they just? Give you a phone call or, do they like, bring you in a room and tell you.
Speaker 4No, there's like no call. It's just kind of like all the higher ups will talk about it every Friday, like before you get your weekend free, you'll get like a libo brief and they'll always do some big speech about like hey, this is coming up. This is why we train, you know they'll do that rah rah go team yep.
Speaker 4So I, I mean, I knew that I was going to japan, probably year and a half out, like right. When I got to the unit they were like, oh, we're going on the 31st mu and whenever you know, yeah. So you have a very long heads up, you know, but they tell you like the month and the year. They don't give you like days, but a year and a half out. I don't need.
Speaker 3So it's not like the movies where you get a call and they're like we're fucking rolling, let's go. No, pack your bag not at all.
Speaker 4Pack your shit not as a fucking helicopter landing your front yard.
Speaker 312 hours.
Speaker 2No, that's always like the secret guys. Yeah, yeah, it's like there's some shit going down. We need you now. What?
Speaker 3is the chris kyle movie, american sniper, he's like at his wedding and he gets caught, of course yeah, what a plot oh great movie too.
Global Deployment Experiences in Military
Speaker 4That was a great movie was there?
Speaker 2was there specific places that you didn't want to get deployed to? Because I know, like my stepdad was in the air force and I always remember hearing other air force guys talk about how no one wanted to be stationed specifically in grand forks just because of how cold it gets, but like certain places overseas where it was like don't put me there, please don't put me there, please don't put me there.
Speaker 4There's nowhere overseas that I really didn't want to go. I just wanted to get deployed, to get kind of getting fucked with over with. Yeah, um, the only thing that I really didn't want to do was one of the big training events there's, bridgeport, like the one that I went to. I went in the summer. They do a winter package in bridgeport and it's basically you're just camping and walking around and fucking like 10 20 degree weather in the snow, just camping out there for like two weeks I really didn't want to fucking do.
Speaker 3That'd be fun as hell, dude, but you're from minnesota, boy. That's like you're fucking bread and butter dude.
Speaker 4See, that's what I thought all over see, that's what I thought, but like it's a lot easier when you have a choice on when you can go get warm when you don't have a choice to go get warm or like do anything that you want to do and you're somebody's bitch while doing it oh, fuck yeah no, makes it.
Speaker 3I didn't want to go at all double shitty oh yeah, I was so happy I never go over there and count those fucking snowflakes how many times.
Speaker 4That's a real thing. It'd be like count grains of sand, like fuck that how many times?
Speaker 3tell me that he had like an instructor, one of his like leaders or whatever. They had a fucking dump truck full of like rock and he's like go count all the rocks in the back of that truck right now he's like, and I just counted them. I counted them for like a half hour until he told me I could stop dude, that half hour.
Speaker 4That half hour is almost nice, because it's like a half hour. You're like unfuckwithable.
Speaker 2Yeah, oh yeah, like no. This guy told me to do this. Oh yeah, yeah and I'll.
Speaker 4I'll get that, I'll drag that out as long as I fucking can.
Speaker 3Unfuckwithable might be one of my new favorite in you know, and how long, how long were you in four years?
Speaker 2yeah, four years. How many times did you get deployed? Once okay, but you went to a bunch of different places, so I went to my, my deployment I went to.
Speaker 4We flew to okinawa, japan, and then we were on ship and we stopped in guam and then just went back to japan and then, after deployment, we went on a training exercise into australia and I want to say that was two weeks. Those are the only places that I went.
Speaker 2So three different countries.
Speaker 4Oh, okay, that's sweet.
Speaker 1It was a great time when you guys flew over, were you in one of those cargo planes where there's the whole open back area and you got to strap in?
Speaker 4See, I wish I could say yes, because it sounds so much better. No, it's basically like flying commercial you, because it sounds so much better, dude. No, it's basically like flying commercial you, you fly to. I want to say when we, when we flew to japan, we went to alaska, then to korea, to japan. And then I want to say when we went to australia, we went to hawaii, to australia, and it's just commercial that's so crazy, because the way that my brain sees a map, I'm like wait, why would you do that?
Speaker 2and then I remember like obviously it looks. Sees a map. I'm like, wait, why would you do that? And then I remember like obviously it looks different.
Speaker 4Oh yeah.
Speaker 1But I'm thinking like wait a second. Yeah, why would you go?
Speaker 3all the way Bitch doing his eyes so hard.
Speaker 1This is my only bro with a fucking college degree.
Speaker 2I'm just thinking like okay yeah, yeah. Why would you fly left if wall that?
Speaker 1surrounds the world the ice wall dude.
Speaker 2Yeah, the ice wall, since the world is flat, god.
Australian Wildlife and Deployment Reflection
Speaker 4I want to say I do have been in Alaska. Yeah, it was probably Alaska.
Speaker 1Do you? Have any beef with kangaroos.
Speaker 4I didn't see any kangaroos, but I saw some wallabies. They're like the little shorter ones.
Speaker 2Those things are kind of fucking scary dude.
Speaker 4When you get like somewhat close, they start pounding the ground. They're jacked as fuck, aren't they?
Speaker 3oh, it's scary.
Speaker 4I have videos. I have a couple videos too of them like running shit myself.
Speaker 1I've heard like all these wallabies and kangaroos are so cool and then when you actually see them in person, it's like this is just a giant rat, like it's just oh 100. It looks like a giant rose, what.
Speaker 4what kind of weirded me out more was like the big fox or those bats, like I think they're the fox bats or whatever.
Speaker 2Yeah, we saw a couple of them Dude.
Speaker 4They're like fucking two feet tall and I'm like dude, what the fuck? What is this thing? Just hanging from a tree limb and it's huge and it's just a black like object and there's like 30 of them.
Speaker 2Jesus, what are these going to eat? That's the thing about Australia. I feel like every time you hear a story about an animal in Australia, it's like everything over there can kill you. Oh yeah, there's just weird shit over there.
Speaker 1I've been in the loop lately of Australia learning the history of it. So, first of all, there's different seasons in the years. There's these birds that will attack you, depending on what time of year it is, and you can barely go outside at this time. It's fucking crazy. And then in the history of it there's a huge section where Britain just sent their fucking prisoners to there. They'd be like you're exiled to Australia, and then they just started their own country.
Speaker 2Was this during World War?
Speaker 3II or what. That's why they're all fucking dope as fuck down there.
Speaker 1I don't know the exact timeline, but they were exiling people to Australia for a while.
Speaker 2That's wild. That's why they're fucking nuts. Was Australia a country at this point? Why were they letting that happen?
Speaker 1I think it started as a British colony.
Speaker 4They had their own revolution right.
Speaker 3Yeah, I think Australia was like the wild wild west for a long time. Yeah, absolutely Fucking cowboy shit.
Speaker 1And then the fucking whiteys fucking dominated it, and now they got Australia, dude.
Speaker 3I would love to go there. Are you on Australia TikTok at all, you know?
Speaker 2what I'm talking about A little bit, I see a little bit.
Speaker 3There's these goofy ass Australian dudes that just go out in the fucking bush and grab random animals and play with them.
Speaker 4Oh, look at this thing you know, you ever see that?
Speaker 3no, there's, like there's australia tiktok and florida tiktok, and they're the same fucking thing.
Speaker 2Yeah, they just go out in the wilderness and grab these random animals that you should never be touching. Just a slightly different accent. They're not crazy different, I would imagine. No, not extremely depending on how well.
Speaker 4It also depends on what part of australia you're in too. I was in like the northwest dude. It's like fucking the desert there, ain't shit there. And it's so weird because you'll get like the weekend off and you'll go be able to go into town like your first time in australia. I'm going to a bar and you're driving this bus into town and they have like the aboriginals and they're running in the woods alongside the fucking bus. What?
Speaker 4yeah it's fucking like, it's eerie, almost whoa. And they, they don't speak English, they're like speaking like their own language. It's a little eerie, and they're like the homeless people in town too, and the first couple days we were there you get like briefed, like don't talk to these guys.
Speaker 3Like stay away.
Speaker 4They are dangerous, like there was like a big fight or something in town before we got there. And it was like machetes and crossbows or some shit like it was like two different tribes in the middle of the town, like in the street fucking hotel.
Speaker 4Rwanda that's fucking sweet and you get like briefed and you just don't go near these fuckers. One of my buddies, as we're at the bar, he like calls this guy over. He's sitting here like talking to us in a different language, like right over this, like railing of the bar, and he hops over. The owner, comes over and starts like screaming at him like it was weird whoa.
Speaker 2It was like hey, you can't be over there.
Speaker 4Oh yeah, it was like kicking a homeless guy out of fucking hotel. You know, jesus?
Speaker 2that's insane. Um, give us some stories for deployment, would you ever see anything crazy? No, I mean were you ever?
Speaker 4in actual combat no, okay, nope, nope.
Speaker 2Never saw anything like that much like crazy stuff going on while you were well, while I was while I was on deployment, kabul happened oh, okay but that wasn't my unit, um, that was two, one, I was in three, five.
Speaker 4So they got to go over to yeah, well, I mean, if you want to say got to, you know, um, they went over to kabul, did all that, and then that's where those 13 marines died. And I'm sitting here in australia fucking drunk in my room, or not, in australia, in japan, just drunk in my room, dude. That is crazy. Drastically different experiences than you think deployment would be. Oh, I would imagine.
Speaker 2Yeah yeah, I mean you definitely you can tell when you talk to someone who was in and saw some shit. You know, I know a few guys that's like they don't really talk about it, unless they got a few beers in them. Yep, there's some real trauma there, for sure.
Speaker 4Oh, yeah, yeah, there's definitely. You can definitely tell, like some of the guys that were in before me, some of them seen some shit, like a lot of like the higher-ups, they, they got some fucking stories. Oh, I would imagine. Oh, especially the ones that were in Afghanistan, iraq doing multiple tours, you'll have all the higher-ups that were in Kermadee fucking Fallujah and they're just sitting here like this is why we do it and they'll come ripping with a story from Fallujah Like POV experience. It's fucking kind of wakes you up a little bit.
Speaker 2Did it change your view of the world and like how different countries interact with the united states? A little bit, a little bit. In what way? Uh, I don't know.
Speaker 4It's like you realize that we aren't top shit. I guess all it takes for somebody to die is a bullet in the right place. It's not fucking.
Speaker 2The world is simple I don't know if that makes sense in my.
Speaker 4In my mind, the world is simple you get shot, you're gonna die like I. I don't know if I'm wording that right like life, feels more fragile yes, 100.
Speaker 3Life is a glass box I think a lot of like americans growing up like we have this idea in our head that, like matter where you go, people are just going to respect you and give you good hospitality and that's not real life, exactly. Why the fuck. Nobody fucking owes you anything. Guys talk about that all the time they go up to Canada. Canadians aren't really that fond of Americans just being up there.
Speaker 4Unless you're paying them shitloads of money.
Speaker 3Unless you're spending money for a service they provide or something like that. They don't really give a fuck about you.
Military Life and Experience Details
Speaker 2No I, I know exactly what you're talking about. We we used to go bear hunting in ontario every year and we go like way up or like the actual road stop and you're on like logging trails and um, this reservation is that we hunt just north of is like literally in the middle of nowhere. The whole town is run on diesel generators and if you go to the gas station to like fill up your vehicle, you tell them, you know, like these are the people that were with or bring them with you, because there's a different price for white people versus people that are on the reservation or people that they like, and it's quite the difference oh I bet yeah, double price type thing oh easy.
Speaker 2Yeah, it went from like, let's say, five bucks a gallon to like 13 bucks a gallon. Oh jeez, if they don't know you if they don't like you if you're just a white guy passing through like they don't, they just don't want you there.
Speaker 3Yeah, you know so yeah, it really depends like, why would they too? Because it's like I don't if all the sudden pine city just turned into a tourist fucking attraction. Why the fuck would I want a bunch of random people here, you know like yeah it's. It makes sense if you think about it from their perspective. But like, americans are like, growing, grow up and like, are taught this, like for some reason that we think that everyone owes us, like hospitality and nobody does.
Speaker 2Yeah, and we live a totally, very arrogant way to fucking think yeah, no, I totally get that. Um, while you're like, what's the meals look like, are you? Eating mres all the time, or what is it?
Speaker 4no, um, so when we are in japan, so we're actually staying in like barracks, you have a chow hall and then this is gonna sound actually kind of funny, but there is a px and it's like basically a grocery store for like on base and they had a fucking popeyes in it, oh I basically survived off spicy like crispy chicken sandwiches so funny and like I'd just get hammered with my roommate by like noon and then we just go walk and get spicy, crispy chicken sandwiches and that was like a damn near daily thing that is crazy, but
Speaker 4then on ship. When you're on ship, you have to. There's like a big chow hall and I was on a big cruiser, like big airline carrier or whatever, um, and you'll sit in that fucking line to get lunch for two hours. There's like over a thousand people on the fucking ship and it's only open for like three, so you have to go get food unless you just don't want to eat like you have to sit and wait in that fucking line and just suffer damn two hours just standing slowly.
Speaker 4You ever get to be the first guy in line well no, you ever get up close at least fuck no, I'll just wait till like I had to go, and just hope the line's a little bit shorter yeah, is that reserved for, like higher title people?
Speaker 4is there is there a pecking order? To it not, not entirely like, of course you're the guys above you. They're just gonna tell you fuck you, I'm gonna go in front of you. They'll do that, um, but like all the really higher ups, they have their own place to go. This is all for, basically, bottom of the barrel. Bitches, you go sit in the main line for the sam chris of the world.
Speaker 1Yep, exactly just like lineman school dude I remember sitting in them lines dude.
Speaker 2So for your four years goes up. You were deployed for six months. You said okay, you're, and that was a year and a half into it. You were deployed for six months yeah, right around there.
Speaker 4So now you're sitting at about two and a half years total.
Speaker 2What did you do for the other year and a half before you?
Speaker 4well out. I I probably only had. I mean, you got to add in boot camp and itb in there, so that's five months, so that counts as time.
Speaker 4And then it's a year and a half workup. So say I'm almost two years in after deployment, I have probably a year and a half left, and then it's just kind of. I stayed in that infantry unit for probably a year and then I got when I told them that I didn't want to go on the next deployment, I wanted to get out um and go to like school, they basically shipped me out to a different unit, they shipped me out to regiment and then I was there and just rotted for like my last six months really yep, now the the whole time, like from the start of basic training.
Speaker 2Are you getting paid that whole time?
Speaker 1oh yeah, damn, yeah, that's crazy, what is what is?
Speaker 2I was gonna say what's like? What do they start you at when you're in basic? What do you get?
Military Life and Transition Decisions
Speaker 4god, like a private, I want to say, makes like 1200 to 1400 bucks a month, like it's, and you get paid every other week. I want to say in boot camp, when I got out, they just pay you. You can't really spend money, so it's, and you get paid every other week. I want to say in boot camp, when I got out, they just pay you. You can't really spend money, so it's kind of nice. But I want to say when I got out of boot camp I had like 3 300 bucks to my name, dang, and I'm like, oh, I thought I was rich yeah, yeah, yeah, I suppose after you came out from deployment.
Speaker 3Did you get to like bitch people that hadn't been on employment yet? Yeah, play that card quite a bit oh and I understand that'd be the only like reason that I wanted to take way too much.
Speaker 1Oh yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 4That's the kind of person I am.
Speaker 3You almost have to if I got bitched even one time before I got deployed. I came back, I ruined everyone's life.
Speaker 4Well, you have to think about it this way like you've been bitched around for the last year and a half, you want to get some of that back?
Speaker 3yeah, totally, I'm getting way more than enough back you want some interest on it.
Speaker 4I'm taking it infinitely too far. Oh yeah, I'm going to be the worst. You're going to be the one that goes to jail for hazing.
Speaker 3Yeah for sure, oh yeah, oh yeah, 100%.
Speaker 1It's like the kid that was a fucking loser and then becomes a teacher and takes it out on the new cool kids growing up.
Speaker 3Oh, you mean every teacher ever dude yeah.
Speaker 1I'm fucking ruining this kid's date.
Speaker 3This kid's getting sent to the hall immediately. Dude, that's why I got beef with teachers. They're all fucking nerds.
Speaker 2So why did you decide to get out then?
Speaker 4I just didn't see a full career in it. I wanted to come back home. I don't know, I just didn't see a full. I couldn't see myself doing it for the next 20 years. Yeah, and I could kind of see myself like coming back home. I couldn't do the things that I wanted out there. I couldn't kind of just go outdoors whenever I wanted. Um, I was living on base.
Speaker 4I didn't want to live in fucking southern California for the next 20 years and I just kind of wanted to move back home well, not home, but like move back like roughly in the general area and actually kind of start something. I wanted to buy a house, buy a nice vehicle. Yeah, can't really do that out there Right.
Speaker 2Yeah, have something, yeah, no.
Speaker 4I get that. Have something that's mine.
Speaker 2Yeah, no, I get that.
Speaker 1So one thing you hear a lot about guys in the military is they get married to somebody. Oh yeah, just because you get paid more, you get to live off out of the barracks. Did you ever consider, like fuck?
Speaker 4Oh, me and the homies almost got married a couple times. We'd like talk about it.
Speaker 1A little Chuck and Larry action.
Speaker 4Oh, 100%. But you don't even have to fake it, Everybody just knows and they're just like all right, well, whatever.
Speaker 3Rules are rules, dude.
Speaker 4Oh, 100. Um, we had two guys actually do that in our unit too and they got married, they got a house on base and since they were both in, they both give up like half their BH for that house, then still have their half just go into their wallets. And then also you get comrades, which is like for the chow hall. If you're married you don't get it, it just goes to your bank account. It's actually like 300 bucks a month so it's like all right, well, fuck it. It's like $2 to go to the fucking chow hall. I'm not going to the chow hall to actually use enough to $300.
Speaker 1You got to call up the old hometown fling. Get her to move over.
Speaker 3Dude, I should have. I would have moved out there for you, dude, I would have appreciated it I would have dropped out of line If you'd have called me mid-December and said you wanted to get married in Southern California. I'd have been on that motherfucker.
Speaker 4I should have just called you and said I'll give you $300 a month just to marry me on paper.
Speaker 3You can stay in. Minnesota work do whatever you want, I came out and totally took advantage of everything you had going on.
Speaker 2I wasn't playing your video games, jerking off in your house.
Speaker 3If I'm marrying you, dude, I'm getting wife treatment.
Speaker 4You're a stay-at-home mom.
Speaker 1I'm not some whore that you have back home, dude. So when you tell them that you're not going to re-enlist, I don't want to go on the second deployment. Do they actively try to recruit you to stay in, or are they just like, well, fuck this fucker's done, We'll just let him be?
Speaker 4It depends if you're a piece of shit or not.
Speaker 2Yeah, I would imagine they prod you a little bit. Why, why do you want to?
Speaker 4leave. I got prodded quite a bit. You just get basically asked just every day are you sure you don't want to like, hey, we'll give you this special treatment on next deployment. You know like, yeah, I'll buy you a hooker or something.
Speaker 2All right, this is where our tax dollars are going. Oh, you're way stronger than me, dude. I'd have fallen for that immediately. You'd have folded.
Speaker 3Oh, I'd have fell for that I wouldn't even negotiate it. I'm like, yeah, fuck, well, I guess, if I have to, where's the papers?
Speaker 2mitch is in the service for another 40 years dude, keep tricking me with hookers, dude, they're so smart uh, if you had to like describe your day-to-day life outside of deployment, what is that like while you're actually enlisted?
Speaker 4uh, that was where you wake up at like 5, 45, are you talking about that? And like you? Go work out in the morning and yeah okay, um, yeah, just every couple months you go do a big training like exercise or whatever, but then every day.
Speaker 2Do they do like different things every training exercise like this? This time we're working on this, or is it just like?
Speaker 4it's like you're. You're ramping up to deployment, if that makes sense okay, you're doing like harder and harder stuff, I guess.
Speaker 4So, like the first couple feet, like training exercises, they'll be like, oh, I'm gonna go out, sleep in the fucking backyard for three days and go shoot this range. But then, when you're getting closer to deployment, right before deployment, you have to do a thing called itx. It's two months in just the desert of fucking eastern california and you're shooting like live ranges with like rockets, with fucking machine guns, like you're actually shooting live ass ranges being a call of duty guy, I'm sure you you knew a lot of the weapons going in.
Speaker 1It was yeah, you'd think so, you'd think so but I'm sure you've pretty much shot everything you've ever wanted to shoot, I'd assume for the most part yeah have you ever been in a tank or anything like that?
Speaker 4marine corps doesn't use tanks.
Speaker 1That's the army oh, that's pussy shit.
Speaker 4I am the fucking tank brother, we got mitch, we got mitch for it give me a fucking hooker.
Speaker 2Dude, give Mitch a hooker he'll find one not one bullet that's gonna pierce this guy with that much blood running through him.
Speaker 3I'm gonna get him a fucking bottle of sake, dude, and I'm fucking gonna go his skin's getting hard just thinking about it oh Jesus, if you could.
Speaker 2Okay, if someone was considering going into the service right out of high school and they say I want to be a Marine, what would you? What would you say?
Speaker 4I'd say, if you want to do it, do it. It's definitely a learning experience. I mean, of course, as you guys knew me before, I fucking grew up quite a bit from it. I feel like it's night and day difference who I was before and who I am when I came out, you know. So if you actually want to do it, I'd say, go for it. I think it's a great opportunity.
Speaker 1Dude, I mean just from being from the outside, looking in, being your friend. Like you decided not to go to college right out of high school, you were working a non-union construction job for like 14 an hour Yep. And then you said, fuck this dude, this can't be my future. And now, four years later, you're going to trade school for free.
Speaker 4Yep.
Speaker 1You already have a great fucking what's it called An internship you know, that you're leading towards. Like you are a great example that I've seen of like fuck you, do your four years. It really helps set a motherfucker up.
Speaker 4Oh yeah. Well, I'm about to get my associates what this May and then I'm just going to already got accepted my job at that internship and I just start out right as soon as I graduate or whenever I want.
Speaker 1Like to never have to see a student debt bill. Oh yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 4And you get paid to go too. You get something called BAH. It's your basic allowance in housing just for showing up. It's super nice and it goes off like the average cost of an apartment in Minneapolis or wherever your school is they just pay you that much.
Speaker 3I've seen that. I feel, like all the guys that I went to school with that were previous military, all drove home for that reason. They're like I'm not gonna get an apartment because they're paying for way more than my fucking gas.
Speaker 2Oh yeah, now if, if, if shit goes down like if the world starts going crazy, you get the call, are you? Are you one of the first people that they're calling back, like?
Speaker 1is there a grace?
Speaker 2period afterwards where, like you're not the top priority It'd have to be pretty bad, but basically.
Speaker 4so when you sign up, you sign an eight year contract. It's four years active and four years inactive. Ok, so I'm in my four years inactive reserves. So basically, before a draft would happen, they'd call back the inactive reserves.
Speaker 1So that would be me.
Speaker 4And it's not a fucking name draw, it's just go yeah, um, I. I'm in that point, but after I want to say I have two and a half years left then it's just civilian mode, baby, oh yeah, well, I feel like what if?
Speaker 3what if that was up? And then they called you and then they were like you can go fucking kick doors, dude. Would you fucking do it? I don't have a choice.
Speaker 4That'd be kind of cool. No, I'm saying after, I think it'd be kind of cool yeah.
Speaker 3You trained so much to be able to do something.
Speaker 4If you weren't four years to go do something, then you don't get to do it, you got to think about it that way. It's like getting cocked. Mitch when I went to lineman school if you never got to touch electricity.
Speaker 3I'd have been fucking crushed. That's what I'm saying. I'd have been absolutely fucking crushed. That's me. Yeah, I just feel like a fucking dumb civilian bitch dude, exactly.
Speaker 2Oh God.
Speaker 1Yeah, here, gotta bully your friends and take the training out on them. Yeah, my, my dad. Actually he did four years in the army and then desert storm kicked off. When he was he was in the reserves and he got called in to go to war and he was back. Like you have to do a couple weeks of training before they actually deploy you, and it ended while he was doing his training.
Speaker 1So he never had to go but I asked him I'm were you kind of like I was pretty young, I just got into Call of Duty. I'm like, were you?
Speaker 2excited and he's like fuck no. Are you fucking stupid Like?
Speaker 4that was the first time it hit me like oh fuck, war is not Call of Duty. Sam, I feel like you would have asked Eric if he knew Captain Price. I, Eric, if you knew Captain Price. I feel like that's what you would have done. I don't even know, captain Price. From.
Speaker 2Call of Duty. Call of Duty, like the story.
Speaker 1I don't play the fucking story.
Speaker 3Do you?
Speaker 1think.
Speaker 4I'm a nerd. Yes, yes, I do.
Speaker 1Fucking.
Speaker 3Team Deathmatch. Baby, I'm not a nerd dude, I just play the fucking Harry Potter video game.
Speaker 4Sam, what's the fifth movie in the harry potter franchise?
Speaker 1I'll order the phoenix yeah, you know, I am a trained wizard I do know multiple spells. So if you really want to disrespect me, you can fuck around and find out, say my, he's gonna specto patronum your ass.
Speaker 4Right out of this I want to say the last time we were drinking, like I was just driving him home and he just randomly said reverso and I was like what are you doing?
Speaker 2fuck all of you I fucking love harry potter I went on a on a star wars kick.
Speaker 3Now I'm full nerd, fucking degenerate loser is it because I said something about it? Was that on air when I asked you if star wars nerds or harry potter nerds were worse, or is that off air?
Speaker 1it was off air and I had already started this.
Speaker 3I was really straight. I didn't even know what I was saying.
Speaker 1I was like fuck, harry Potter's done. I got a nerd out on something else, went to Star Wars and then I watched an Avengers movie. I really fucking. I was like I'm going Marvel now, baby, I cut it, I dropped it. The nerd shit's done. I'm back to being a man. I'm back to fucking broads and working out. I'm thinking about joining the Marines. I don't know yet.
Speaker 4Well, you got what? Two years left. You got to make a decision.
Military Fitness Tests and Deployment Discussion
Speaker 2I got to get on Ozempic and make your half Is there certain requirements when you're doing your pt, stuff that you have to meet while you're like to get in yeah, um like, do you have to run a mile in a certain amount of time, or be a certain weight, or your bmi be a certain way, or?
Speaker 4yeah, so you have to. They got like this janky ass thing if you're six foot, you have to be between these weights. They got something like that. Then you have your physical fitness test and your combat fitness test, so like your pft and cfd, and each of them are like three different events and you have to score at least a certain number on all of them to be able to kind of well, you're gonna stay in, but then without kind of doing a ton of extra physical shit like in your off time and how much of a pain like could cody do it right now?
Speaker 4yeah, cody could probably do it, I think so he's too old, he's too fit and handsome, yeah, too old as fuck but too old you know, there's no one let me in.
Speaker 2Called yesterday.
Speaker 1Hey, you know you could join the. Uh what? What's that shit that they do around town? Everyone makes fun of them. National guard, yeah, dude, you could national guard that shit that they do around town.
Speaker 4Everyone makes fun of them. National Guard yeah, dude, you could National.
Speaker 2Guard that shit, you could.
Speaker 4You probably could right now.
Speaker 2What do they actually? What does the National Guard do?
Speaker 1First, of all, I don't you still have to go through.
Speaker 2You still have to go through basic for National Guard. I believe so.
Speaker 1Really, yeah, expected a little more now.
Speaker 4I'm in.
Speaker 3My stepbrother's girlfriend was in the National Guard and they deployed her to fucking.
Speaker 4Iraq, dude what she's healthier than I am.
Speaker 1She could bitch me.
Speaker 3Yeah probably. She's like 5'1" so I wouldn't get bitched if I was you.
Speaker 4But do your thing, dude. I didn't go to Iraq, did you? No, dude, then she can bitch you. I'm not in the military Logan.
Speaker 2Well then she already can right off the rip yeah no matter what I'm yeah, I think it gives me a different respect for it, for sure. I mean, obviously I've known people that have been through basic and been deployed and whatever, but I don't think that I've ever really understood the dynamic of like the, what the life is like yeah, it's just a big hierarchy and it's basically, if you're at the bottom, you're a bitch.
Speaker 4That's basically all it is. You do whatever the people above you say to do. I imagine.
Speaker 2That just never stops, though, no, just the tasks are less tedious, the higher you get, oh yeah. Because, there's always going to be someone above you.
Speaker 3Are all the guys at the top like just be like, I'm not gonna get bitched anymore.
Speaker 4Some of them, some, some of them. I could definitely see that most of them are like kind of act like dads, but they don't have children.
Speaker 1You are their children, I guess that makes sense, yeah you know did you were there, guys like you'd think to yourself like if I outranked you, I would beat the fuck out of you, right?
Speaker 2now like did you have?
Speaker 1any, any older bullies. You know anyone that was really looking down on you?
Speaker 4I mean like not entirely, because most people that bitch you were on deployment. All you do on deployment is drink and work out. So nine times out of ten when you come back from deployment you're bigger than you were when you joined at 18. So I'm sitting here getting bits browned by a ton of drunk 21-year-olds. You know, I'm 18. I can't fucking fight anyone.
Speaker 2I'll get my fucking ass fucked.
Speaker 4Yeah right, you know so I'm just kind of Casper. I'm sitting in the corner fucking trying not to get noticed.
Speaker 1That adjustment of being just a feral motherfucker in the barracks to going living back with your parents again in a normal civilization. You're like. That had to be an adjustment right off the bat oh yeah, oh yeah, it's fucking.
Speaker 4It is a night and day difference, because now I can't go knock on the door next to me. Hey, you want to, you want to go get hammered?
Speaker 2I mean, it's noon you, could you just go knock on your dad's door when you get up.
Speaker 3You must have grown up in a different household than me, my dad come would come party?
Speaker 4I've watched my dad drink. I could count it on one hand in my life. Maybe you can get him back into it. I don't think he was ever into it. Get him started on it, you get back home from deployment.
Speaker 3You can teach him a new hobby You're hammered at noon on a Saturday.
Speaker 2Hey Dad, you want to go hit the strip?
Speaker 3club. That's what I'm saying. You want to go to bar? You can teach an old dog new tricks.
Speaker 4Dude, Don't let him tell you, we don't have to tell mom.
Speaker 1You ever drink with the.
Speaker 2Marine, do you think you get different treatment from people around you after being in the service? Obviously, you've changed a lot.
Speaker 4It's like anytime I get drunk, I just get bombarded with questions. Yeah, Basically every question that we've asked on here so far. I have probably heard 30 times yeah, Particularly just from Sam. Yeah, I'd be willing to bet every time we drink he asks me these questions every day.
Speaker 3Oh, so you're just having a horrible time right now. I'm sorry that we did this to you.
Speaker 4I was getting backflashes from Sam blacked out in my backseat.
Speaker 1Dude, I just love it, man, because I just fucking played so much Call of Duty. What were care packages?
Speaker 4like, but you don't know who Captain Price is.
Speaker 2He wasn't in combat, he didn't get a score streak.
Speaker 1Oh damn dude.
Speaker 4Yeah, I never hit my five kills.
Speaker 1You never got to release the dogs, dude, nope, no. Uav nothing, Dude. That would be insane in real life Fucking dogs.
Speaker 2I don't think that that's what they do.
Speaker 1You never played Black Ops apparently dude.
Speaker 4Dude. I never got to send out a swarm.
Speaker 3I was so sad, you never seen them, dudes, that fucking coyote hunt with dogs. They got the fucking button that releases the dogs out of the back of the truck.
Speaker 2No, I haven't seen that Dude. It's badass.
Speaker 3They got like nine kennels in the back of their fucking truck and they hit a button and all the doors fucking slide open and the dogs just take off.
Speaker 4Dude, it's like real life Call of Duty, except you're killing coyotes. You just gotta imagine like nine greyhounds running after that's insane.
Speaker 1I'll show you well, they just hunt it down and kill it yeah oh damn, oh yeah, that's kind of sweet it'll be like a 45 second chase.
Speaker 4It's just greyhounds running after this fucking coyote it is sick.
Speaker 3You just go coyote hunting. You don't even bring a gun. The dogs aren't a gun.
Speaker 2My head goes to like what is the training like for each of those dogs?
Speaker 3dude, that would can't be that whole time job. Teach them how to kill shit, oh dude hunting dogs live a tough, motherfucking life, man.
Speaker 1They get no love. You can't make them like your pet. You know, you grew up around hunting dogs, especially if they're hunting other fucking dogs.
Speaker 2Well, it was always different at our house. We always had like one or two main dogs, one or two hunting dogs that were like our family dogs, yeah. But yeah, the other dogs, it's like they're kind of just a utility.
Speaker 1If you want a really good hunting dog, they cannot be your friend. No, that's. I guess that's just what I've heard from trainers.
Speaker 2I disagree with that. Cause all like all like the, the guys with like championship dogs that I know like that's their, that's their kid.
Speaker 1They're in their bed Like they hang out like they're.
Speaker 2That's their family pet. Second, you know first, but they're the hunting dog.
Speaker 4I feel like it's just dependent on who your trainer is and how you kind of bring them up Totally, yeah, 100%, Because you can bring it up to where? Yeah, this dog's going to sleep outside its whole life, but it's going to be fucking good at finding pheasants.
Speaker 2Yeah, totally, it's independently. Every single person, I would assume, just trains their dogs differently.
Speaker 3I think you're thinking like Some things got to sleep outside Like coon hunting dude.
Speaker 1You ever seen raccoon hunting.
Speaker 2Oh yeah, yeah, my dad used to do it. We did it when I was a kid.
Speaker 1That shit is unreal man.
Speaker 2See you later, TK.
Speaker 1Especially, I've been doing it with an older dog. He's not as tough anymore and sometimes you don't know who's going to win the fight. Dude Raccoons are tough motherfuckers.
Speaker 4Oh yeah.
Speaker 2Did you ever get to go hunting or fishing when you were on deployment?
Speaker 4Nope. Well, I went on a fishing charter. Yes, in Japan, Me and 10 other buddies, we all pitched in, got to sell a charter and we were catching fucking tuna and mahi-mahi.
Speaker 3Damn. I was just going to ask you about some mahis dude, that's badass.
Speaker 4Oh yeah, I got some pictures I can show you guys after this. It's pretty fun, that's sweet.
Speaker 2Yeah, that'd be fun, Can you? No, you get the weekends off, right.
Speaker 4Well, it depends if you're on like a field op or not.
Speaker 2Oh, okay, but if you're on the ship it doesn't matter, you're not doing anything.
Speaker 4If you're on the ship. I basically didn't do shit anyways, you just sleep.
Speaker 1Sleep, fucking. Try no to. Oh yeah, jesus, 10 fucking four. Or christmas dude, I've always been planning her out, you never know. Now I'm not even talking america, you don't know, dude, yeah, I might reverse pearl harbor, that shit you didn't?
Speaker 3the canadians do some super fucked up shit on christmas and like world war two is that? Is that a story that I've heard before?
Speaker 2sam.
Speaker 3Well, they were like it was like christmas and they were like throwing fucking food into the trenches. And then they just start throwing grenades into the trenches.
Speaker 2I'm not sure, but I wouldn't doubt it Sam's a big World War II guy.
Speaker 1I have heard that like during Christmas is like they'll do a ceasefire where everybody gets together.
Speaker 3Well, there's like a bunch of pictures from World War II of that Germans and someone and they had a fucking Christmas feast. They just piled all their fucking rations together and they were just sitting out there eating and hanging out.
Speaker 1I've been watching some pretty crazy World War II footage and I want to give some credit to the Canadians because they were bad motherfuckers in World War II. Dude.
Speaker 3Dude, they're like fucking the war crime, fucking masters. Canadians Half the Geneva Convention is written after the fucking Canadians. Dude, they're fucking animals.
Speaker 2Really. Yeah, they're dogs. Dude, dude. You wouldn't guess that now.
Speaker 3I know they're soft as fuck Fucking Trudeau. He's such a pussy dude. He made that place so soft.
Speaker 1That's why we got to buy him. Dude, he's out, we got to buy him out, dude. Buy him out. He was scared of daddy.
Speaker 3The Panama Canal, the Gulf of Mexico, canada, it's all ours, dude.
Speaker 1Dude. Okay, I mean it's pretty late, so I'm late in the episode. I'm willing to get into it, but Trump's inauguration speech was so fucking electric dude. I had never even heard him talk about turning the Gulf of Mexico into the Gulf of America.
Speaker 3Oh, dude, that's been a big thing for a couple months now.
Speaker 1I was really feeling it that morning. I was like yeah, I'll fucking represent baby.
Speaker 3Oh my God, just the fucking goosebumps, dude.
Speaker 1Who the fuck called it? Mexico, dude Fucking Gulf of America. I'm all in, dude. I loved it. I really wish. I was hoping we could do an outro, but our wonderful guest he just took off pissing dude.
Speaker 3We did do an hour and 10 minute episode with no piss break. What?
Speaker 2if he just Irish goodbye'd us. He's just leaving right now, that'd be legendary.
Speaker 1It'd be a marine move dude.
Speaker 2He took the zip line out the window.
Speaker 3That would be a legendary exit. Dude, Just get up.
Speaker 2Oh, he's coming back. He's coming back Him and fucking Todd are going for a run. All right boys. What, uh, all right boys? What do you think we wrap this thing up, paybull, is there anything that you want to?
Speaker 4that you want to bring up before we wrap this thing up. To be honest, I got nothing, I think you guys hit some of the main points here. Thanks for coming in, do you have?
Speaker 1any questions for us shut up. Yeah, fuck you sam oh, buddy, thank you so much for coming on. I hope, I hope these youngins learned a little bit. Maybe we'll even get a couple new recruits because of you.
Speaker 4I better get a fucking cut if you join.
Electric Line School Challenges
Speaker 2Yeah, you can hit our referral code in the bio for the Marines. Ontap 10 for 10% more pay on your enlistment. Next episode is actually going to be all about going through the dynamics of line school and how hard that is.
Speaker 3We already did that. That was my first episode ever. Oh yeah, it was.
Speaker 2Oh, that's funny. All right, well, yeah.
Speaker 4Thanks for coming on, Abel. I appreciate you guys having me.
Speaker 1Absolutely. Thanks for listening.
Speaker 4Thank you.
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