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The DISTURBING Truth About Ruby Franke That Hulu EXPOSED!
Dive into the shocking story of Ruby Franke and her family channel, Eight Passengers, where what started as wholesome family content masked increasingly troubling secrets. Through viral videos, Ruby presented herself as the quintessential "perfect mom," drawing viewers in with heartwarming moments and relatable parenting experiences. However, behind that carefully curated image lay a disturbing tale of parental exploitation, psychological manipulation, and eventual arrest, sparking discussions about the darker side of family-friendly content on platforms like YouTube. In our latest episode, we unpack these critical themes while exploring the in-depth documentary recently released on Hulu.
0:00 Introduction to Ruby Franke's family yt channel
6:07 Ruby's Arrest and Initial Reactions
10:53 An Overview of the Hulu Documentary
16:55 The Shift from Innocent Family Content to Exploitation
30:50 Kids Pushed to Perform: A Family Under Pressure
39:40 The Influence of a Cult
1:04:33 Deteriorating Family Dynamics and Control
1:10:12 From Viral Sensation to Outrage: Social Media's Role
1:29:15 Legal Implications and the Future of Family Channels
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So I've been going down the rabbit hole of family channels lately and I found the motherfucking Mac Daddy. Dude, I swear to God, this Ruby Frank. She's insane. Hulu just dropped a documentary on her and I'd kind of heard a little bit about it leading up to it. When she got arrested, there was a lot of videos going around and she was getting some flack earlier. But, dude, this documentary is crazy.
Speaker 2:So basically— Is this the gal that was like abusing her kids and forcing them to be on camera?
Speaker 1:Yeah, but it gets so extreme you wouldn't even believe what it gets to. So this lady, she's a Mormon, it's a Mormon family, it's called Eight Passengers. It's Ruby Frank, her husband, kevin, and then six kids, and they all kind of have a variety of ages where, like the oldest one, when they started the videos was like eight, and then the youngest one was just like their first video they ever posted was a gender reveal where they like cut the cake and and whatever, and it started out as really wholesome. They were building a huge following. They she was known as like America's mom and and it was. It was a huge deal for her. And so what? When it started to turn is everyone? So everyone thought like, oh, this lady, she's got it made, she's the best mom out there. And then she started posting a little more intimate videos. She started to realize that her eldest son he played football, he was really popular, he was attractive, as they say in the documentary.
Speaker 2:Not me because I'm not gay. At eight he was like 12 at this point, Probably one of them.
Speaker 1:So she figured whenever he is on the thumbnail they get the most of you. She was completely exploiting him and so in these videos she was completely exploiting him and and so, like in these videos, she would like pan it to him. He wouldn't respond, she'd get all pissed. And a big part of this documentary is the family.
Speaker 1:The entire family came forward and they gave all this unreleased footage of her like, of her cuts yeah where she would be like dude she'd be taking a video with her son like selfie style and he wouldn't give her the answer. She would be like dude she'd be taking a video with her son like selfie style and he wouldn't give her the answer she wanted. And she would turn the camera down and just be like what the fuck? I help you with everything and you give me nothing.
Speaker 1:Oh my God she would just freak out on him. So it started out like it was. It was fucked up, but it was a lot more innocent than where it got to. She was just exploiting her kids for content. She was forcing them to make these videos. Their whole life revolved around YouTube. She's putting food on the table goddammit.
Speaker 1:And that's one of their big things Is there a dad in this? So the dad is involved in the videos, but at first he was really out of it and he didn't like having the camera in his face when he got home from work. He was a stay-at-home dad. But then in the documentary he says we got that first paycheck.
Speaker 2:It changed everything I was going to say. How quickly did they monetize their YouTube channel?
Speaker 1:So they had one video blow up and it got them an $85 check and that was what they needed. He was all in, the whole family was all in.
Speaker 2:They would pay the kids ten dollars per video that they helped on ten dollars I saw in the trailer because I didn't see the actual documentary, but I saw it um on, like just quick flipping through, and the clip that plays automatically is her and the son I'm assuming it's the oldest and she says like, okay, pretend at least that you're happy. I don't know if I can, you have to.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it was like that was the clip and I was like whoa Dude, if you go to any kind of vacation, that's what any fucking family does when they're trying to get their kids to take pictures that's a good point In front of the fucking Mount Rushmore or whatever.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but this is different. This is like put on a show, put on a show, you know, like this is, put a quarter in, like do the trick.
Speaker 3:There's a parallel, I feel like the kids.
Speaker 4:Wouldn't they be more intrigued to do these things if they were getting a decent cut of that check, though, instead of ten dollars, you know?
Speaker 3:I don't even know. Yeah, but if they bang out 50 videos a day, I feel like the kids are more innocent than that.
Speaker 1:I feel like they're more like they just hate it. Like, imagine if everything you had to do, or everything you did as a kid, if it wasn't good enough on camera for her, she would just make you redo it you you literally your whole life is being on a film set there's no fan like you're supposed to be like at home as a family family time, but then that's converted into.
Speaker 1:You were doing this task well and that's the oldest daughter she was. She's the whole family's in the documentary dude. They just let the mom they gave it out everything, all the information, and she said like they changed all of the lights to what in the house like, like what the fuck's it called dude the high, the bright lights bro incandescent like you see them in school.
Speaker 2:You know leds, whatever, like a nice okay, light versus like specifically to film youtube 100.
Speaker 1:They used to have like the warm yellow lights they live on a set and that's what she said. It feels like you're living on a set.
Speaker 1:So let me keep going, dude, because you, it gets fucking crazy. So this lady like when? So when she first got her a lot of hate, she posted a video. She posted it on her channel where her son she's talking about how, like when she takes things away from her kids, she doesn't give it right away, even if they change their behavior, because they need to earn it. And she's like can you name one time where I've given you anything before six months? And he's like well, she just gave me my room after seven months and she was like she was making him sleep in the basement on this beanbag because his behavior was so bad.
Speaker 1:He lost his room, which, in a Mormon family dude, he just like kissed a girl and it was the end of the world, whoa and so you know that's the first time she took a lot of heat.
Speaker 3:How old was this?
Speaker 1:kid At this point he's about 14, 15. And so this kid, his name's Chad, he, uh, he starts really acting out at school, gets expelled from school. He just he hate. His whole life was being told what to do, so he just learned to resent it. And so they sent him to, like you know, those wilderness camps where they talk about all the crazy shit that happened there. And then they got him invested in all this therapy and they introduced him to this lady named jody Hildebrandt, who really comes into the story later, and and she starts going through all these therapy sessions with him and it got to a point where, like he wasn't, he didn't want to change, and his mom said if you don't change, jody and I are gonna have to send you to military camp and he was only.
Speaker 1:He was only like 15, so that would have been three solid years there. So then he started to change his behavior. Things started to get a little better once this Jody Hildebrandt got involved, but then all of a sudden it took a whole turn for the worse. So the husband, kevin, he had kind of had suspicions, like it was getting really weird with this Jody lady, and she had basically told everybody that she could feel God and that and that she was sent from God to change everybody's lives. And this ruby was completely bought in on it. And so she. She at one point was claiming that she was seeing demons in her bed.
Speaker 1:She's like a Mormon psychic, yeah, basically and she's gonna see the mormons during covid. They were getting ready for like the second coming. Yeah, it was a huge thing in their community and she was taking like that role of like I'm the speaker.
Speaker 1:God sent me here to get us through the second coming and they fully bought in and she claimed like I, I'm at night when I I wake up to these spirits around me and hoods and like all this crazy shit. And these guys are so religious that they went to her house, picked her up, moved her into their house. So this Jodi Hildebrandt that has these crazy techniques for therapy and she's just a known man-hater. She's known for ruining families, she doesn't have any kids and she's been in a divorce but she's the expert of marriage Like it's just weird shit. But they have this family hooked and so they move her in. And that's when shit really got weird, because she started having like these demonic episodes.
Speaker 4:Like night terrors, dude, she would like they showed a video Like are they real demonic episodes, though, or is?
Speaker 2:she In retrospect.
Speaker 3:These are like psychosis-induced. Or is she knowing that what she is spewing is bullshit and it's just an angle? Or is she believing in herself she's convinced herself of?
Speaker 1:this. She's basically a cult leader and they don't ever have full proof of her being like I made all of this up but they show enough context where you're like this bitch had them in her fingers and she was using them. But, dude, I got. I got to get to this point because this is where it really takes a turn. So keep in mind these, the, the two parents, ruby and kevin. They got together when they were straight out of high school. They went through the whole courting, the mormon bullshit, so they've been together forever, happy family, six kids. Well, there's jody moves and she's having these episodes and they showed videos where she's like laying on the floor, being like she's never coming back.
Speaker 1:Oh, my god I have her, and then the mom would be like god, please say, like it was just like one of those crazy moments and they're filming this for youtube. Filming it, dude and so they oh my god, keep in mind. The family thinks this is 100% real, they believe this woman, and so this woman's starting. She's a big known man-hater and she likes to consolidate the wife and then get them to hate their husband, and this is something she's done for a while Be divorced like me, and so she moves in and all these episodes are going on.
Speaker 1:So Ruby tells her husband that she needs to start staying in Jodi's room so that the demons don't come when she's sleeping and she just needs to be with her.
Speaker 3:I'll scare away the demons.
Speaker 1:I understand well the oldest daughter. She's in college. At the time this Jodi had took her room and she came home for Christmas and she goes into the room. And she came home for Christmas and she goes into the room and she found a bunch of sex toys or not sex toys.
Speaker 1:She found a bunch of massage oils and other things that led her to believe that the mom and the fucking therapist were hooking up in her room and then shortly after, she. So one thing that's really big in the mormon society that I didn't understand is divorce is like the worst thing you can do yeah, it's like killing someone so it's like breaking a contract that god made you literally, and so they have separations where you, the husband or the wife, just has to leave the family and you cannot have contact until the other one decides that it's time to bring it back divorce, but without sign it's like.
Speaker 1:It's like the polygamy and you don't know if it's going to be six months a year or 10 years. It's just separate, it's an unsaid separation. And so she kicks the husband out, her oldest son that's now 17, he, he's very religious and he went to jody, who's his therapist, that he spoke to every week for years. Now she lives in their house and she told he told her that, like I, I've been watching pornography and I made out with the girl and he felt really guilty about it and she was like I think you should tell your mom. Well, he, he tells the mom, she freaks the fuck out, decides he needs to leave, kicks him out of the house.
Speaker 1:Because, his bad spirits were the reason why Jodi was having these episodes.
Speaker 1:That's what she chalked it up to, and so she has now kicked out her husband, her eldest son, and then she reached out to the eldest daughter and said you obviously do not want to be a part of this family anymore. You're done. So she she kicked out the three that were starting to realize like this is getting weird. And now she just had four young kids with her and Jody, and so the neighbors are starting to notice like Jody and Ruby would be gone for extended periods of time. It was super, super weird, because you'd walk by the house, you'd see these little faces of these little kids peering out the window, but then you'd knock on the door. No one would ever answer.
Speaker 3:They just leave the kids alone, just leave them completely alone. What?
Speaker 1:the fuck dude. The neighbors actually reached out to the eldest daughter and she called the police for a welfare check. Well, no one answered the door, and when they asked her if she'd physically seen any damage done to them, she said no because she hadn't. But then they couldn't do anything and so they couldn't get in the door. But then ruby, like she's started to realize, like oh, they're catching on to me. So then she moves the two older daughters they start living with a friend and takes the two youngest over to jody's house, where she's now convinced that her kids are demons sent from the devil her own kids and she has all of this written in a notebook of like the things they that she has done to them, how she's gonna break the devil out of them and she's.
Speaker 1:She thinks that like she essentially has to kill her own children to save to save our our world.
Speaker 1:And so they go to jody's house and jody has like this crazy bunker house where the bottom two floors are completely concrete. She's got a whole safe room and so they started living there. Well, one day the neighbor gets. He's just like sitting on the porch or something and in this little malnourished he's got duct tape all over his wrists, he's got bruises on his neck, rope burns. He runs up to the front door of his house and he's like I, I need to ask a favor, will you please bring me to the, the police station. And he's like what's wrong? He's like it's personal problems. So he's like all right, I'll call the police. The police come and pick him up and then they immediately go to the house. They go, they jody answers. She's like I'm on the phone with my lawyer. They just grab the bitch right out the house, put, put her in cuffs, search the house all over. They find in the basement. This door that leads into a safe room Can't get into it. She's like I don't know the password.
Speaker 1:Oh my God, they go upstairs they find the youngest daughter who's also malnourished. Rope burns everything. Jesus Christ, she's completely mute. She won't even talk. They finally get her to come downstairs with them. They get into the safe room. They're trying to crack it. They can't get it. All of a sudden, one of the sergeants just goes. I'm just going to try 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. Fucking puts it in no fucking way. Opens right up you go in the back room, there is bloody gauze from the children.
Speaker 2:There is bloody gauze from the children.
Speaker 1:There's handcuffs, there's ropes. She made a mix of honey and what's it? Kanye peppers where? She mixed it up and she would rub it on their wounds, kanye, she would rub it on their wounds and it was just crazy.
Speaker 2:Oh, my God.
Speaker 1:And so they finally arrested her, her. They arrested her on the spot. They're trying all over to find the mom. The mom just shows up at the house and she's like what the fuck are you doing here? Then they arrest her and they found the other kids. The other kids were fine but, like dude, she's facing 30 years of prison dude, that's.
Speaker 3:that's not enough. Yeah, what state is this?
Speaker 1:in. This is in Utah, utah. This is Mormon country.
Speaker 2:I was going to say Utah they got death penalty there dude, I don't think so have you seen that polygamy show?
Speaker 4:It kind of reminds me of that.
Speaker 2:No, it's like living with polygamy or something. Is this a Mormon thing? Yeah Well.
Speaker 4:I think Mormon yeah, you can have more than one wife, I think, as a Mormon. But that's kind of what this polygamy show is about is like these girls that are born, you know, like this the preacher Look it up, the preacher will be 40 years old and the girl will be born and when she's 10, as soon as she turns 16, she's going to marry that guy or whatever, and at the end of it he has like 42 wives and all he does is bang them and then get them pregnant and then just kind of catch the next one.
Speaker 2:Mormons are not polygamous Okay, well, that's more of a cult thing.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it's more of a cult, but it was in Utah. It kind of reminds me of the same sort of situation because they would like have separate housing. Like when he was done with the one wife, he would put him in like this trailer park that he would own and then she would live there. But if she divorced him, it was like the same deal sam was talking about they get exiled. Yeah, they get exiled. So it's just this group of like 60 women that like didn't know any better because it was how they were raised. And then, once they grew up, they realized it, but then they were too scared to leave, like they didn't, because they had nothing.
Speaker 4:You know, he funded he bought them groceries, had their housing, even though it was super shitty and none of it was good.
Speaker 2:They didn't know any better, dude that's kind of crazy should I start a family youtube channel?
Speaker 1:dude, that's what got me thinking, because I've been trying to get you I know you do bring that up all the time, no matter what it makes me it makes me think of the costco guys.
Speaker 2:Have you seen, like uh, the outtakes of some of the costco guys interviews? Yeah, it is so cringy dude. It is like, um, I saw this. Uh, there's a comedian jay kind of funny. Are you familiar with him? No, I'm not um, I'm trying to think. Um, I I always get him and and a couple of other comedians confused, but it's like his videos were huge on TikTok, where he'd go up and moan in people's ears, or the Chupapi moan in you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, sure that guy yeah.
Speaker 2:I think that's him. So they had a video of him with them and he's just sitting there smiling while they're talking behind him Big Justice and what's the other one, aj, and big jj and big justice and, um, it showed the whole video, no cuts, and it was like no, no, no, no, you say it like this. And then I'll say this and then like did it, did it. And then the whole time jay's just sitting there smiling, like really awkward, and they're just like bickering. No, no, no, you say it like this. And then I'll say it like this and they're like okay, here we're today with the big chocolate chunk, and then Five big booms. No, no, no, no, no, I'll say that you say this. It just is so cringy and so awkward that I'm like oh, this is like a family.
Speaker 2:This is a family YouTube channel. Fuck, do they have a YouTube channel? They got to have.
Speaker 4:Oh yeah, I, they're fully mocked. Have you seen that Instagram I think it was Instagram Live or TikTok Live where it was the five big booms one where he was like oh Mitchell, I'm sorry your sister died. That deserves five big booms, boom boom.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's a big sound bite.
Speaker 1:now I hear the sound on a lot of videos.
Speaker 2:Sorry to hear your sister passed away. Here's five big booms.
Speaker 1:Oh my God, yeah, dude, to hear your sister passed away, here's five big booms. Oh my god, yeah, dude. The family channel lore is just fucking nuts, because it's like we know how hard it is to film things, and so when you have this idea of how you want a video to go and you're dealing with little kids who don't even know what's going on, and then also when you turn your whole income into this family channel, you need to make a video every day now these are like your employees why is it so popular?
Speaker 4:like it wouldn't be a thing if it wasn't so you've seen how many subscribers, how many viewers. Now that's what I'm saying. Oh, in the ad sense is insane for that family friendly content yeah, like, is it like a corporate push thing, like it's just fun, I just think it's the most rapid way you can grow a channel because, since it's so family friendly, everyone wants to advertise on when young girls like.
Speaker 1:That's one thing they talked about in in this documentary because chad, when he was like 12, 13 he was. He was the most popular on the channel because most of the viewers are 12 to 15 year old girls who just like see this perfect family and that's like they want to have a family one day.
Speaker 2:So this is their type of content dude, my five-year-old nephew was at my house a couple months ago and we were on youtube and he was like oh, I gotta show you this, this channel, and it's uh, I wish I remembered the name of it. It is just this cringy family channel. It's this guy and son, and they'll just like buy these toys yeah, open them yeah, and then they will play with them yeah and it is so over the top, like, like whoa, look at this dinosaur.
Speaker 2:Oh, I'm gonna get you. You know, and it's like this is he loves this. He will sink into this show and he's locked in. You can't talk to him. And it's like this is he loves this, he will sink into this show and he's locked in. You can't talk to him and it's just total brain rot I'm not getting anything out of it.
Speaker 3:It's so old, like all the colors are like overly saturated.
Speaker 2:Yes, it's like purposely made to brain rot kids. It's insane and I remember like there's no way this is a popular youtube channel.
Speaker 3:I look and it had like eight million subscribers I, I feel like I, whenever I think of things like that, like okay, who the fuck is what?
Speaker 2:I forget that that's a demographic fucking five-year-olds or like you know like I, and he knows exactly how to get on that, on that search and go to it. My sister was saying like it's a real problem. She walked in in while we were watching.
Speaker 1:She's like no, no, we're not watching this. We're not watching this.
Speaker 2:She has a list of channels that she knows like. No, this is stupid. There's nothing to gain from it. It's insane and there's so many out there my kid will be watching. Have you guys heard of Danny Go? He makes kids songs that they dance along to, right, but all the suggested whenever we look up these I don't even know like these 3D models made in like Blender of these, like cars going through like a puddle of paint and then they'll go along this track and it's all animated, but it's really shitty.
Speaker 3:It's like. It's like it'll have present day, baby Einstein.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but it'll have millions of views but, like the audio tracks that they'll put in, it will be like popular meme audio, yes, and one time we were just we were watching one and some of these things. Like when they go through this thing, it'll be like what the hell? Like the audio track that's playing is like these meme sounds. It's like what the Dude it's brain rot, what is going on.
Speaker 4:If you've like you know I'm sure you guys have all seen it on Instagram Reels or TikTok There'll be like a Rogan clip, you know. It'll be him saying something for a minute long and it'll be the top half of the screen. In the bottom half will be like the gta car yeah, like going down like a dragon or subway surfer, yeah, yeah and it'll like flip and then it'll like reset and the car will go down and again.
Speaker 4:And it's crazy to think that obviously kids aren't watching rogan clips. But at today's world even adults can't hold their concentration for a minute to watch a rogan clip that they have to watch a gta5.
Speaker 3:Is that the point of that? That's the point.
Speaker 4:So that way you watch the gta car and you listen to rogan because your brain is so used to getting so much dopamine. This is why I like it has to be watching.
Speaker 3:It's all stimulation.
Speaker 4:Hate TikTok because TikTok knows you better than you know you. The algorithm is so good on it that it knows you need so much dopamine where it can only put a one-minute video in there, and it has to put a GTA clip of you driving a motorcycle down. Or Subway Surfer or for you to even stay locked in for that minute to finish.
Speaker 3:The video turns me off of, like tiktok specifically. It's like I feel like I mean even all social platforms now, but I feel like whenever I'm on it, I just know they're tracking every single bit, like down to the fucking nanosecond of how I'm watching this video. They know you better than you know you, but it's like I feel like I'm being watched and just like every action I do, even just scrolling, yeah but just scrolling, but I feel like it's going to dictate what I see next.
Speaker 4:Even if you don't like the video, it knows your watch time on it. If you've watched half of it, it knows to not feed you something like that again. It's so smart so specific.
Speaker 3:That feeling of I know it's doing that and I don't like that. I feel pressured.
Speaker 2:It gives me anxiety Watching those videos where I'll purposely and it's.
Speaker 3:I don't like that, it's just.
Speaker 2:I feel pressured. Yeah, it gives me anxiety. Yeah, it does.
Speaker 3:Watching those videos I'll purposely scroll by, whereas, like five years ago, I never had that thought no.
Speaker 2:There is a study that just came out I think TikTok has a lot to do with this, but the human, the average human attention span, just dipped lower than a goldfish's attention span. Fuck. So, like In all these studies, they say that a goldfish has a nine-second attention span before it'll just do its own thing. The human attention span, officially, has dropped to 8.25. It is officially below a goldfish.
Speaker 4:I single-handedly blame TikTok.
Speaker 2:It's just pure stimulation all the time?
Speaker 3:How often are those people taking that survey or whatever? That's just the people that have been exposed to that or constantly put themselves in front of these social platforms. You have to think.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I agree, I think people who haven't had social media, like an Amish person, they have longer than a nine-second attention span, or even just like.
Speaker 2:Yeah, also I never got pulled in this. Yeah, like an Amish person. They have longer than a nine-second attention span, or even just like. Yeah, also I never got pulled in this. Yeah, where is this coming from? I get real hesitant about these studies.
Speaker 4:Is it coming from TikTok? That's another thing I like to ask. When anyone spits a fact to me you know, did you hear this? I always say where did you hear that?
Speaker 3:Did you survey?
Speaker 4:100 people. And almost 10 out of 10 times. They know that they saw it on TikTok and they're too embarrassed to say TikTok, I don't remember.
Speaker 1:I read an article.
Speaker 4:You don't read.
Speaker 2:I recently thought a lot about this who are they polling kind of situation when I went on a cruise in January and my family got put up against another family in this family feud entertainment night on the cruise ship.
Speaker 2:So there's like like a hundred people watching in this little like a theater room and, uh, we go up against this other team. But the people that they pulled were obviously members of the crew who are all from all over the world, Right? So there was a lot of like miscommunication and cultural differences that showed up. It was like name things that you would drink for breakfast, and someone said milk or chocolate milk. I think they specifically said chocolate milk and that was wrong. But then when they revealed the answers on the board, one of them was chocolate drink. It's like, okay, well, is it not chocolate milk? Or are you talking protein shake? Because someone else also said protein shake and that was wrong. So I was like, what exactly is a chocolate drink then? I don't, you know.
Speaker 1:So it's like weird cultural differences.
Speaker 2:I was like okay, obviously this poll is not from people that would be answering this, you know.
Speaker 1:Dude, have you ever seen? Always Sunny.
Speaker 3:Yeah, dude, literally that thought was in my head the show.
Speaker 1:I do literally. That thought was in my head. There's an episode where they the crew goes on family feud and charlie happened to get surveyed for for the show before they got on and he didn't even understand what it was for, and so they would get all the other answers right and there'd be one left and charlie would just say something dumb as fuck. It'd be like dragon animals that bark dragon's breath and it'd be the last they'd all look at'd be like animals that bark dragon's breath, They'd all look at him and be like what the fuck kind of answer is that?
Speaker 1:And then he'd be like dragon's breath, and he'd just click one on it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's how I felt on this Family Feud thing when we were on this cruise. Dude, I'd be pissed.
Speaker 3:I was like what is going on?
Speaker 2:It's like what is going on Good foods for breakfast and they get a British person Baked beans, baked beans on toast it said like name a really large country, and my sister said Australia. And they're like okay, well then what it's a country and a continent but they didn't count it. It's like, okay, well, no one answered that in the poll. It's a huge country. What are you talking?
Speaker 3:about. It's like that's open to interpretation. It's a lot dirtier so you just got to guess.
Speaker 2:You just got to guess. Anyways, I don't know how we got on the whole poll thing, but I never got polled for my attention span, so I am reluctant to One big point on the attention span.
Speaker 4:Thing I'd like to add to is everything is short form now, like when it comes to videos. Like, if you, I remember when I was, you know, 12, 13 years old and there was like a really cool BMX video, you know. It was like a eight minute, 10 minute YouTube video of a dude banging out a bunch of tricks and I was obsessed with the video. I probably watch it a hundred times, you know, or a car video, or a snowmobile video. And I was just in a rabbit hole a few weeks ago watching all those old videos that I thought were super cool and I was like why don't those? Why isn't? Why aren't those around anymore? Why, you know?
Speaker 2:a long form cool video. They're around, they just don't get views.
Speaker 4:Yeah and then and people aren't making them because they know if it's not that instant dopamine stimulation of a 30 second video, it's just not gonna hold viewership anymore.
Speaker 2:It's really not. I mean, yeah, I used to buy skate videos on dvd that were like 30 minutes to an hour. I still have a bunch in the window over there. It's 30 minutes to an hour long skate video. You could never do that now every no trick individually. Now is a clip on yeah, and you need it.
Speaker 3:Don't bet again dopamine like if you think about it like devil's advocate, you're seeing that many tricks just condense.
Speaker 4:It's just chopping out the yeah, but some of those videos have a two minute intro like where they won't it's like a movie almost yeah like I.
Speaker 4:A great example is there's this like trophy truck video. This guy named bj baldwin. He goes around cuba jumping the streets, doing all this cool stuff, but the intro to the video is him playing blackjack or poker with like cuban guys smoking cigars and all that but it's like a minute and a half intro of really nothing happening just like cool b-roll yeah, it's just the cool, you know, get in the vibe of the video.
Speaker 2:But now, if you put that video out now, nobody's gonna stick through that two minutes yeah of watching that before it gets to the cool part of the video yeah, I actually I thought of this idea for yeah, for like, when this like the subway surfer tiktok thing and gta thing was first becoming popular, I thought of this idea for a tiktok that was like the subway surfer tiktok thing and gta thing was first becoming popular. I thought of this idea for a tiktok that was like the top half of the video is like someone crying about you know a funeral or whatever, and then the bottom is like yeah it's like some meme song playing yeah
Speaker 3:because it feels like that's what it is or some important state of the nation address or something.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you'll like see a rogan clip of them talking about some debilitating brain disease that's running rampant right now, but it's like Subway Surfer. What the?
Speaker 4:fuck is going on, the only way it can hold the attention.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't know. You put a GTA clip in front of me. I'll sink into the video.
Speaker 2:That's the thing that pisses me minecraft running yeah, oh, oh yeah, over the blocks doing like yeah so there's actually this app that I have that I make our captions for our clips on. That has this new feature that's ai that you can upload stories from reddit and it'll turn that into captions and the audio is read by this ai program called 11 labs, and it's like I mean, you've all heard the voice oh, I know exactly, you know that this guy and it's, it's.
Speaker 2:You can literally copy and paste a reddit story and it'll spit out a minecraft like running video with the text on the screen for you, and a lot of these people are like cranking out a hundred of these a day and there's accounts making thousands of dollars off of these copy and pasted reddit stories do you know what the difference? I've contributed so much to that I'm the worst before I learned about that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, me too especially just being a stony bastard dude if I get caught on a good reddit story along with the the speed jumping courses dude yeah, that's like halfway through you realize it's just a fictional story. It's like fuck or you got to go to part two and it's like how bad do I really need?
Speaker 2:to yeah, we should make one like a channel, just for fun. That's just like word vomit, that doesn't make any sense kind of like an onion kind of.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's like a minecraft speed run.
Speaker 2:But it's like did you know that when you and you and then you and you can, and then you and then and then you know what I?
Speaker 4:mean Like just some see how long they watch, yeah.
Speaker 2:See what the retention is like. I'm sure it'd be high, higher than you would expect, probably.
Speaker 3:I'd hang on to see.
Speaker 1:I want to see the other side of the tunnel I want to see him dig I want to see him dig down. Jesus Christ boys. I hate to be a selfish son of a bitch, but I've got a piece of fucking bad. Can we please take a bathroom break? Brb, it's time for a bathroom break. The boys will be right back. What up, skinny Mitch? All right, we're back.
Speaker 4:The topic I would like to talk about is Kanye. I don't know if anyone has noticed, but he's been. He's watching actually.
Speaker 2:This all started with the album announcements, or the small publicity stunts. His Super Bowl commercial wild you click on.
Speaker 4:Yeezycom, and it's just one white t-shirt with a swastika yeah, uh, today he posted a picture of a chain like he wants someone like a jeweler to make him a swastika chain like a hundred thousand dollar diamond swastika, somebody will do it it is getting hard, uh, to defend him at this point. I've've always been a Kanye ride or die.
Speaker 2:No matter what Kanye does, I've it's the chair.
Speaker 4:Dude I Kanye, he's my number one Spotify listen, he's my guy.
Speaker 3:I feel like he gets the pass, though I feel like even if he does a crazy shit, that's a crazy one.
Speaker 4:It's kind of like having. I'm not going to say Kanye is my best friend by any means.
Speaker 1:But you know, it's kind of like your best friend, he's like a father figure to me.
Speaker 4:If your best friend, even if he fucks up and you know he did something wrong, you still take your best friend's side.
Speaker 3:You know, same thing with Kanye, when he would post something wild, you know I would do my darndest and there's like to defend some level of like okay, well, what he meant was, or like what his, you always try.
Speaker 4:You know he posts something crazy. You're like no, no, just you wait, it's gonna be part. He's smarter than us, he's gonna have some ploy, like it's, you know he was saying jesus loved hitler yeah, but you know he started posting a lot of Hitler stuff a couple weeks ago.
Speaker 2:He's off the meds.
Speaker 4:And then he got banned from Twitter because he started posting a bunch of corn content along with the Yadov Yitler posts. And then he came back, didn't change at all, kept going on about the anti-Semitism stuff, got banned again and now he's unbanned again and he's doing it again um, what are, what are some of the recent? So a funny one that, um, I saw was call me yadoff hitler, and your bitch still wants to fuck that's a funny one.
Speaker 3:Today I'll make for a banger hook dude uh here's another good one.
Speaker 4:I love hitler.
Speaker 2:Now, what bitches um what's another one I got here is this a real thing or is this all publicity stunt that? Do you think he's really?
Speaker 4:into see hitler. I want to say it's a publicity stunt because he's my boy, but I don't know.
Speaker 1:It's getting hard.
Speaker 4:That's crazy. I swear I had one, oh yeah. Another funny one is it had no caption. He just said Apple is gay in all capital letters.
Speaker 1:True but still fucked up.
Speaker 4:I don't know how to defend him anymore and I don't know if it's a ploy, if it's some type of publicity stunt you think? Connie's actually an android guy no way he's sending.
Speaker 3:There's no way. He's an android guy. He's got a mac set up.
Speaker 4:What I what I was thinking about, that that's funny to me is so he puts all these like random spaces after, like, if you see, here it says I love hitler, and it's like space, space, space, space. Now what bitches. But you know, on an iphone when you click space two times it puts a period.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you gotta go back to delete you gotta go back.
Speaker 4:so on these posts there's tons of spaces. So I just imagine kanye typing this and it puts a period and he's like fuck and he has to go back three times to delete the period. So, by the time he's done making one post. He's edited it five times and even after taking 10 minutes, he's still like yes.
Speaker 3:I'm posting. Did you come up with that theory on your own? Yeah, that's fucking brilliant dude. That's probably what it is lot of thought into that.
Speaker 4:I'm trying to defend him and I can't anymore, because that just proves he puts more time into the post.
Speaker 3:Hear me out, right, hear me out. Do you necessarily have to defend him? Can't you differentiate between him as musician and him as him?
Speaker 4:I think I'm starting to get to that point.
Speaker 3:He could like everyone brings like as the the the can you separate kanye from? Yay, michael jackson, yeah kanye kanye the musician from yay, the person dude, michael jackson. That's a great point you know, that's like the like number one, like correlation or like that they throw out there in like comparison is that confirmed that he was a weirdo? Though. Oh yeah, I think it's, it's pretty well documented.
Speaker 1:I mean, I think he's a that he was a weirdo, though. Oh yeah, really it's pretty well documented.
Speaker 2:I mean, I think he's a freak, he's a real diddler.
Speaker 4:I think it's crazy how you can be a diddler and it's a huge deal. You touch a kid. Your career is over what?
Speaker 1:You think they shouldn't do anything. No, no, no, let me finish.
Speaker 4:Let me finish how, if you touch a kid, your career is over. I think that's how it should be. But if you make some good songs and you touch a kid, then they're like ah you know we'll keep playing his music. We don't got to talk about that Specifically you're talking about Michael Jackson.
Speaker 3:Yeah, how it just gets kind of kicked off because he makes it, you're not giving a pass.
Speaker 1:This is not like a future strategy.
Speaker 4:No a pastor saying it's right. I'm just saying it's funny how it should be if someone touches a kid, but if they make good music it's like ah, Just artists in general, you gotta be fucked up to do the good shit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, if you're talking the 1%, I mean there's a little bit something wrong with them in general. They're a different person than everyone else. That's why they're at the place that they're at exactly.
Speaker 1:See, I think kanye has always been anti-semitic and he's just finally letting it out. I think everything he's tweeting he's wanted to say for a real long fucking time. He's just now like whatever, well, it's time to rip it was probably a year or two ago.
Speaker 4:He made that clip of the when he was talking. The guy was interviewing him. It was something about like a doctor and he was like I don't want to say what race the doctor was, and he crosses his arms, he goes it was a jewish doctor so yeah, I think he's definitely hated him for a while and now he's just going all out.
Speaker 3:I I mean I feel like he's just an all out. I don't really give a fuck mode because like he kind of has proven he's like said crazy shit before but still like he's still gonna be kanye and I feel like he's just well, dude and kanye, you know, going off of what tyler's saying about how he just loves him, and it's hard for him to get past this like I.
Speaker 1:I'm the same way, dude. I discovered kanye fully when I was immersed in the Kanye college dropout His biggest hits. I was probably a senior in high school. I just wanted to be Kanye West and then his documentary came out shortly after.
Speaker 2:The Netflix, the trio, and it's like dude.
Speaker 1:When they first started showing him when he was young he was just this cocky kid with balls of steel, knew he had it, but then he made it. Loved his mom yeah, you know it was so tough because I just like it's like. I just love the music, I love the come-up story. I definitely don't like where it's at, I like how he was. Uh like he started off as a producer but he knew that like he was a rapper too.
Speaker 3:But then all was, uh, like he started off as a producer but he knew that like he was a rapper too, but then all the other like he had to break through that barrier of like every other rapper being like shut the fuck up, just produce I think it's crazy how he always knew he was going to be famous like he videoed himself like he was already famous but that's every that's that is a lot of people yeah no, we know some of them
Speaker 1:no way, dude I'm. There is nobody else that, when they have nothing, have a guy move over to new york to start their documentary before he's ever sold a big beat or been on anything worth maybe, maybe not move, but definitely guys that will follow other guys around with their phones, with a camera and film everything they're doing 24-7.
Speaker 4:In the early 2000s, though In the early 2000s, though Now everyone has Instagram, everyone has YouTube.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're right, but in early 2000,.
Speaker 4:When you had a fucking VHS recorder.
Speaker 2:But that's the thing. We just don't know because they don't get big. We don't see that. I think it's probably more common than we think it is. Yeah, I think it's more common now Because there's a lot of people out there with just a blind belief that they're going to be king shit. But we just never hear of them. I think, now we see more of it because of social media.
Speaker 3:But that's just. It's more or less. Back then they didn't have that distraction or that that like visibility. Yeah, they didn't have YouTube, they didn't have, so they just put their focus into the work itself. The barrier to entry is so low.
Speaker 2:now you can take a video on your phone and post it.
Speaker 3:That's a good point too.
Speaker 2:Back then you had to get a record deal you had to specifically your mission was I'm going to do this, you know. Now it's like everyone's got a phone.
Speaker 4:You pretty much couldn't make it on your own. You had to get some sort of deal.
Speaker 1:And that's what was fucked about the music industry in general is they had artists by the balls. You can't do anything unless we sign you. And we're going to sign you to such a terrible deal that we're going to own you for the next 10 years and if you don't sign it, we're going to blacklist you and no one else will and it's like all right fucking sign it up.
Speaker 3:The only way to get in that position, too, is just by talking to the right people and getting them, Like you had to be around those people that could get you in those positions where you could take those deals.
Speaker 2:And then you're already doing weird shady shit to get in those conversations. Then you're at Diddy's house, dude Then.
Speaker 4:then you're at Diddy's house but the crazy part about Kanye is he's always kind of been a meme like he's it's not, like this is out of nowhere, like he's always kind of been just weird, funny. Well, the Taylor Swift award thing, kind of like Trump. Or have you seen the poopity scoop? You know, how he made the track, or whatever, and got it just to piss off, was it Drake?
Speaker 1:I think Drake wanted the beat.
Speaker 4:And Kanye overbid Drake just to make a song and all he said was poopity soon. And it blew up, and that's what makes me want to defend him in this scenario. It's gotta be something. There's gotta be something more to it.
Speaker 1:That clip where they're raising money for charity and he looks at the camera. He's like george bush hates black people he's always said wild shit.
Speaker 4:He's always said wild shit, so that what? That's what makes me want to defend him. But when you want to defend a guy that uh is selling swastikas on his one tweet, it was like great day to wake up and practice anti-semitism.
Speaker 3:Get this, though. Like what if this is just another avenue for him to be like? I have so much confidence in myself that I can do this Exactly the craziest.
Speaker 4:And still be successful.
Speaker 3:The worst thing you can think of. I can sell just the t-shirt with a swastika on it. I'm going to come out with an album and I still know it's going to be fire.
Speaker 4:Yeah, that's almost. I still know it's going to hit.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so it's like it's, that's my only defense left honestly. Yeah.
Speaker 2:And how much of a flex would it be?
Speaker 4:People are going to listen to it mean that's probably the only worst thing he could do.
Speaker 1:Hit a woman. Yeah, good point.
Speaker 4:Give him a little smack.
Speaker 1:Oh my God, I'm sure Kanye fully believes in that. It's the Mitch chair.
Speaker 4:It's the Mitch chair.
Speaker 2:Did you hear about the Galaxy Gas thing.
Speaker 4:I mean, I know what it is.
Speaker 2:His previous management had come out and said I'm done representing Kanye. On my own free will, I quit because his dentist was supplying him with $200,000 a month worth of laughing gas and he was totally addicted to this laughing gas. See, I call cap on that.
Speaker 4:You don't think it's real. I don't. Kanye truly doesn't seem like a drug guy to me you like.
Speaker 2:Okay, what kind of state he's?
Speaker 4:on a lot of stuff. It seems like he's not on drugs right now and that's what's making him maybe go a little off the handle, like it seems like he doesn't want. He said that.
Speaker 2:He was taking meds because he thought he had bipolar disorder.
Speaker 4:I think he does.
Speaker 2:He found out he's actually on the spectrum and that it's not bipolar disorder.
Speaker 4:They were treating him wrong. He's on the spectrum, 100%.
Speaker 3:He has the superpowers. That was the kind where you have the superpowers.
Speaker 1:He was one of the first people to say crazy shit and blame it on autism.
Speaker 2:I'm autistic. I'm trying to find the monthly expenditure on Galaxy Gas from Kanye.
Speaker 1:You ever get into Galaxy Gas?
Speaker 4:What a cool name, my girlfriend actually called me autistic yesterday in a non-joking way and it kind of stung. She knew, dude, did you think what a cool name? My girlfriend actually called me autistic yesterday in a non-joking way and it kind of stung.
Speaker 1:She knew. Dude, Did you think? What did you do?
Speaker 4:Well, I don't know, I think I'm. I always say I'm autistic. You know I'm like 70% serious, but like I don't want people to say I am, and she just fully said we were just in the hot tub. And she just fully said we're just in the hot tub. And she just goes like I know you're autistic, Like it wasn't a joke, like you know.
Speaker 4:There wasn't a giggle after it and I don't know it took me back Because I think I am a little bit on the spectrum. But to hear it from your own girlfriend and be like I know you're, oh man.
Speaker 1:And to mean it too.
Speaker 2:Okay, so the allegations were made by his former chief of staff for the rapper's campaign for president. I also forgot he ran for president.
Speaker 1:I voted for him. I did.
Speaker 4:Did you actually, I think I did.
Speaker 2:So his former chief of staff claims that Dr Thomas Connelly, the dentist who provided West with titanium teeth, was charging the rapper $50,000 a month to cover an ongoing supply of nitrous oxide. The former campaign manager claims that Kanye struggles with nitrous oxide addiction and that Connelly took advantage of that to make money. He shared images on social media that he says are texts between Connelly, connelly and West that prove these claims, and he also claimed that the dentist has done this with other black celebrities. But spokespeople for the Connelly defense claim made up the story for attention. So I don't know. I don't know. That was on FHEHealthcom. I don't want to believe it.
Speaker 4:Is it that good? And I don't believe it. Is it that good?
Speaker 2:Never had Actually to the back, I think, put under with or had nitrous when I got my wisdom teeth taken out.
Speaker 4:I don't know. You should probably try it before you talk shit about it. You know, yeah, it's not bad.
Speaker 1:I've been dipping into the whipped cream can a little too late.
Speaker 4:A little high, a little upside down. Whipped cream can Dude, that's just a headache.
Speaker 2:Straight up and down. That's just a headache. I've never, I've never caught a good buzz off I got kicked out of a sex store once for asking if this whipped cream canister that literally looked like a mouthpiece. I was like, is this for Whippets? Is this legal to sell? And the lady blew up on me, the clerk at this place. Actually, now that you've said that I can no longer sell anything to you, so she answered that question.
Speaker 2:Please leave our establishment and I'm like, wait what? First off, I wasn't even going to buy anything. Second off, is this what people are really buying?
Speaker 4:this thing? For what's your deal? Getting kicked out, Do you get kicked off the dinner table? Kicked out of your friend's house, kicked out of sex stores? Buddy's got a rough history, brother.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think you're the common denominator here.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it sounds like it's your problem. Maybe it's in my tonality.
Speaker 1:People just fucking hate you. I'm a victim, cheekab, didn't you run in on a on a woman on whippets?
Speaker 4:one time and she's just acting, yeah well, crazy. Yeah, uh, my dad did a little bit of tow truck driving and, uh, there was this lady. She was in a chrysler caravan at walmart, go figure, and car wasn't running. So he got a call to go get her and he opens the door and she's in there just sucking down the whippets Actively.
Speaker 1:My dad didn't know what it was, he just sees all these cans, it's like damn, this bitch left with cream and she's just sucking on the Where's the pie? I think it was like the the duster.
Speaker 4:The computer duster spray.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4:So she's in there getting high as shit off of it and my dad doesn't know what to do. So she gets done. He like takes the can from her, hooks the tow truck up, he's under there strapping it, whatever. It goes back to the van and she's found a new can and she's sucking on it again. He takes the can, throws it, makes her get in the tow truck, brings her to the dealership and then he goes inside grab some paperwork or something, comes back out and she's in the trunk of the van sucking the whippets.
Speaker 3:Dude, how many did she buy? And how was she able to buy that thing?
Speaker 4:Well, my dad said, the whole van was just canned.
Speaker 3:Like did she buy it from that Walmart?
Speaker 4:Airduster Did she have to go to a bunch Radio.
Speaker 3:Shack.
Speaker 2:Walmart, I don't know. You'd think you'd get flagged, maybe.
Speaker 3:Yeah, 100 whippets in the last two weeks. They keep the fucking headlamps behind a glass case. With this one I can't imagine they'd let you walk out with more than one can man?
Speaker 4:they're putting everything behind glass cases. Now it's really awkward. Like Sudafed. It's really awkward. The meth he's ruined it.
Speaker 1:For Sudafed. It's like bitch. You think I'm a meth-ed.
Speaker 2:Be a good cover-up.
Speaker 3:I guess Good that would be a good cover-up, I guess. Good weight loss plan yeah, I'm trying to lose weight. Oh, methic yeah.
Speaker 1:Ozempic doesn't really seem very healthy. I'm not sure about the side effects. I'm just going to try meth.
Speaker 2:Yeah, actually there's no reason why I'm buying this car battery, Sudafed, this pan, this bot and all this other supplies. So mind your own business. Isn't that a thing where, if you go buy certain things together, that you know they are not allowed to sell it to you yeah, I always heard that as a kid. Like you, can't buy, you know x amount of suit of whatever, whatever, whatever.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I don't know, I don't know, I don't think they really care, it's like that scene from, yeah, that scene from breaking bad, where he's like, where he bumps into that dude that's buying all this shit and he's like no, you're getting the wrong shit. And he's telling him what to get, he just drops it, runs out.
Speaker 1:Dude, you guys ever see them fucking Walmart workers that take their job way too seriously when they think someone's stealing. Oh my God, they're just grabbing their cart, fucking shutting the doors on them.
Speaker 4:Dude, I have a rant about the secret shoppers. So our Walmart. We've had the same secret shoppers forever and they wear the same outfit and they never pick someone inconspicuous.
Speaker 2:I've never known who they are.
Speaker 4:They always pick the wildest people Like the most. People that would stand out in a crowd are always the secret shoppers, okay.
Speaker 2:Do they literally just walk around the store?
Speaker 4:Yeah, they just walk around all day. They have no shopping cart. They're wearing a blue shirt and it's so clear that you've seen a walk around every time you've gone to walmart for the last two years like you think they just walk around like it's clearly a secret shopper, one of them was was a trans woman and I don't know. But that's pretty easy to to pick up.
Speaker 1:How did you see a trans? You know there's something up with them well, because did they?
Speaker 4:prove it to you that they were well the first time she was a woman exposed yourself well, she was a woman and then you know, every time I would see her over the years she got a little more manly like hell. There was a beard and you know stuff there's an item in that cart. But it's like why do you pick them to be the secret shopper, and why don't they even push a cart around? They could at least throw some shit in the cart.
Speaker 1:Pretend you're shopping.
Speaker 4:Actually try.
Speaker 1:Dude, I could be a hell of a secret shopper.
Speaker 4:They pick the most obvious people and then don't make them push a cart around or anything. Obvious people and then don't make them push a cart around or anything.
Speaker 2:I don't know how they would ever catch anything. I actually got a good story on this. I got my ass secret shopped on when I was probably 10, 11 years old. Were you stealing? You got caught, kind of. It was very, very small. I was buying these shoes and they had a pair of Vans in there and Vans always used to come with a sticker the Vans off.
Speaker 1:The wall sticker was like the skateboard with the logo.
Speaker 2:The red. I was like I don't want to buy the Vans, but I really want that sticker. So I took the sticker out of the Vans and put it in the shoe box of the shoes I was buying and they caught my ass, followed me right to the checkout, open that box.
Speaker 1:What's in the?
Speaker 2:box, oh shoes, what else?
Speaker 4:Made me pull out the sticker confronted me get on the ground just by myself.
Speaker 2:Luckily, my parents weren't there or anything what did you try to lie?
Speaker 4:or were you just like, yeah, I took the sticker?
Speaker 2:full deer in the headlights. I'm just like, yep, you got me I'm so sorry did they do anything? No, it was a sticker I mean, what are they? Gonna do that they were watching me. They watched me, put it in the boxes. How else would they have?
Speaker 1:known. I used to stay in the self-checkout so hard. All it took was one AI. It literally will tell you AI detected, scan or whatever you missed an item, it'll stop the machine.
Speaker 2:It locks it up. Someone has to come and type in their code.
Speaker 1:I had to give them the. I don't know what happened.
Speaker 4:And then they had the video of you on camera, just like putting it in the bag.
Speaker 1:Dude one time and I was like never again. I'm too old to be doing shit like this, like there's never a good age to steal. It's like one of the worst things you can do for your own personal name. But if you're past I don't know 16 and you get caught stealing, you're just a piece of shit for a long time.
Speaker 4:If you're a kid, it's like you're a kid you get one chance as a young kid.
Speaker 1:Even, like I know, kids that got caught stealing young and something goes missing. We're in a small town, shit goes missing. Those names are always thrown into the loop.
Speaker 3:All it takes is that one time, right off the bat, he's a stealer, he Always thrown into the loop.
Speaker 1:Yeah, all it takes is that one time, right off the bat, he's a stealer.
Speaker 2:He probably took it. Dude, 100%. Yeah, or you hit them up. Hey, my buddies Actually it's funny they say it, but I had a friend that had a phone stolen at the skate park and I just went through the Rolodex of kids in my class that I knew that stole shit. Hey, did you take this? Did you take?
Speaker 4:this, did you get them?
Speaker 2:Do you know who did? We never found them.
Speaker 4:Dude, I got caught stealing. I got caught stealing. It was truly an accident. I was at Walmart at the self-checkout. It was after a long day at work. You know, you're just like half awake. At that point You're like fuck it, I'm going to steal.
Speaker 2:And I pretty much.
Speaker 4:I just grabbed like a gallon of milk and I just took it right from my cart and just put it in the bag. I was going to the cart beeping everything, put it in the bag, and then I was just out of it and I just put the gallon of milk right in the bag without scanning it, and now it videos you and then it replays the video when someone comes over. So I put it in there.
Speaker 2:Well, there's a scale on the bag side too.
Speaker 4:Yeah right, so they know. They Well there's a scale on the bag side too. Yeah, right, so they know, they know. Like, oh, this just got really heavy and you didn't scan anything. Yeah, it noticed right away. And then it like locked the machine up or whatever you know, and I was like what the fuck? And then the attendant comes over and she clicks like play on the video and on the screen it just shows me grabbing the scale and putting it right in the bag.
Speaker 2:And I was like listen, I know it looks bad. I swear I did not do that on purpose, it was a total accident and luckily it was.
Speaker 4:I think it was someone who just didn't give a fuck and they're like, yeah, it's fine.
Speaker 2:Well, um, let's go yeah when we had red on for the blue collar happy hour, red's liquor box, red um, he was talking about the people that steal from his store. The most are people with kids, because it's an easy cop-out Make the kid grab it.
Speaker 2:Parents at checkout now, first-hand experience. If I got both the boys with me and I'm by myself Taylor's not there it is so easy to forget to scan stuff because I can't leave it in the bagging area. I have to put it back in the cart Cause I constantly got to be like making sure the kids aren't like trying to jump out of the cart or like your bandwidth.
Speaker 2:Most of your bandwidth, like I constantly have one hand kind of on the card at the same time. So I'm like scanning and begging and putting it back in the other side of the cart, keeping it separated. But I could see it being really easy if you were trying to deliberately. You know you just mix everything together and then just don't scan half of the stuff. I could see that being so easy. That's what red was talking about. He's caught multiple people, like with kids, like you're like handing the kids the candy bar and then if they get caught like oh my bad, like the kid just grabbed it.
Speaker 2:You know, people do that all the time.
Speaker 1:Dude, I do that all the time, dude, I worked at red's gas station when I was in high school and one time, like dude, shitty ass, van like astro van style pulls up six heavily overweight women, fucking white trash. Walk in like dude. You, you'll be able to tell based off the first thing they said. They walk in. One of them looks right at me. Says y y'all take EBT Like yo, fuck dude. I have never seen anything like this in my life, and within a snap of a fingers they just grabbed shit off the shelves, ran to the van and took off. Dude, I didn't even know what to think. I'm sitting there like uh, I'm trying to get their license plate.
Speaker 1:I could only get half of it.
Speaker 2:I was fucking shaking. I'm like, fuck yeah, I get to call the cops. I never got to call them, never fucking got them. Dude, did you get the full license?
Speaker 1:plate or no? No, I didn't. I thought I got a full one. They're like we can't find it I let my boss down.
Speaker 3:Oh, I remember, uh, working at menards like back in college, and then, uh, it was like late at night there's probably two people, stores close and then you have to sweep the departments, basically kick everyone out of there. There was one guy that was left there and he was stealing and we heard whispers from the other department oh, someone's stealing, someone's stealing. And then there was always that one guy that was like, oh, fuck, that Fuck that I'll find, and it's like dude.
Speaker 3:Everyone else was just like dude Fucking let him. It's time to go home.
Speaker 2:Actually I have a very similar story. I worked at Sears in college In Grand Forks and one of the manager on duty there was a guy that was stealing right at closing time. He had a cart full of power tools. It was all craftsman shit and the manager was like fuck that. She went and locked all the doors and so like no one gets out, and so he goes to the door and then he leaves the cart, he runs to the other door and it's locked and and by the time the cops get there they're like you can't fucking do that, like you can't hold him in here well, he's technically like they.
Speaker 3:They us like. I don't know why. They told us we were like driving forklifts and shit, but like you're technically not stealing Certified.
Speaker 2:Until they leave.
Speaker 3:Yeah, exactly. So it's like you can't.
Speaker 2:Yeah, until you cross the line, Like what is stealing. Walmart's policy is that they can't stop someone.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, you can you, can't like? Oh, I've seen plenty of videos where they try yeah, they can't like touch you yeah, they just don't, they have insurance in place. They have a budget for people stealing x amount every month whatever.
Speaker 2:They literally pay someone in loss prevention to figure out ways to stop people from stealing stuff like they. It's a big enough industry. They lose enough money to pay people to watch that.
Speaker 4:Yeah, speaking of police, I had a little run in with the police the other day.
Speaker 3:Well, what were you?
Speaker 4:stealing. I wasn't. I wasn't doing anything wrong. Milk at Walmart.
Speaker 3:Well, I was driving the fucking milk bandit's back. I was on, I would be the milk bandit.
Speaker 1:Off of work again, buddy? Yeah, I would be the milk bandit.
Speaker 3:If I, I would be the milk bandit.
Speaker 4:So I was on my way home from the gym and I was On a double solid, you know, a two lane, two solid line road where you can't pass, you know, and I come around the corner. It was out here on Cross Lake Road and there was a car going like 10 or 15 miles an hour. So I'm passing. I didn't say fuck it and was rowdy about it. I went around him like you would go around like a gentleman like you would go around a tractor that was on the side of the road.
Speaker 4:It was kind of like looking them off blowing.
Speaker 2:It was not so nice of a car.
Speaker 4:So I figured maybe there's something wrong with the car, you know. So I just gently try to go around him. I with the car, you know. So I just gently try to go around him. I didn't even hardly accelerate. And then as I'm going around him, he floors the vehicle. And then at this, like I could see that there was no cars going, but it was a double yellow because there was a curve coming up next. So I have to floor my vehicle because I'm already pretty much almost past them. And now I see another car coming towards me so I have to floor my truck. So now I'm going head on with a truck wide open, trying to get around this guy because he floors his vehicle. So I get around him and then the dude starts following me. Everywhere through town A cop goes by and he's like trying to flag down the cop and point at me and I'm like all right.
Speaker 4:I'm going to see what's going on. I pull over, the guy gets out of his car, comes up to me and he's like it's a fucking double solid line and I was like I get that. I was like I know that that's my bad, I know did you almost get citizens arrested. You put you know, so this is the funny part, he was acting like he was a cop. So he, he gets a secret driver. He wasn't pretending, he was acting like he was a cop, so he he gets a secret driver he wasn't pretending, he was acting like he was a secret driver and he gets out.
Speaker 4:He comes out to my window and starts yelling at me. I was like I understand, I know it's a wl, my bad, I thought there was something wrong and then he starts pulling the phone out, you know recording yeah, taking pictures of my face freaking out and then he's like I'm gonna fucking find out where the fuck you live, bud, and I was like holy shit, at this point I don't want to try to fight this guy.
Speaker 4:I don't know if he's on crack, I don't know anything about it. So I'm like, okay, dude, I put my truck in, drive, I start pulling, the weight punches the side of my truck. I'm like, geez, so I had stopped again. I'm like what are you doing? He's like I got you now, motherfucker. And he just keeps shoving the phone in my face. I was like okay, whatever.
Speaker 4:So I drive to the car wash and then I leave the car wash and he's sitting in the in the laundromat parking lot waiting for me to get out of the car wash, starts following me around town and then obviously I don't want to go home. Do you got to lose him?
Speaker 4:Yeah, so I'm going left, going right zigzagging around and he will not stop following me. I drive for probably 15 minutes up through town and around and won't stop following me. So I called the cops and I was like this dude is, I don't know what the deal is.
Speaker 1:And then I gave him the plate number and all that and then they said they were going to send a sheriff on the way, and then he turned off eventually. Oh, you lucked out, dude, dude that's when you just drive.
Speaker 4:Because they said they said that they were sending a unit to me and then he pulled off like a couple minutes oh, like he had his own radar he was listening, but oh, when I forgot the the best part. When he was going back to his car After he punched my truck, I said what are you a fucking cop or something? He was like yeah, close enough.
Speaker 1:I know people and I was like alright, do you even know who my father is?
Speaker 4:Yeah, do you know who my dad is? Jesus Christ.
Speaker 1:Oh dude, when I was 16 I got in a situation when I was driving to my buddy's house and there's this curve, like a really steep curve, and I don't even know in the moment, maybe I did take it a little tight. I didn't remember taking it tight, but all of a sudden I'm driving and I noticed this vehicle's behind me, fucking guys hanging out the window, just like I can't hear anything, but I can, just I can tell he's fucking screaming at me and so I'm 16.
Speaker 1:I've never had anything like this happen. I'm in a shitty little 2000 Chevy Blazer and he's in some shitty Chevy truck and he's chasing me all through town. I blew a couple stop signs, almost died myself. This guy's just chasing me, still hanging out his window. I go all the way out on Pekagamaama Lake Road, go for about five, six miles, finally tails off. Well, I come back, find out the dude that was chasing me was my buddy's like three house down neighbor. And so when I go back to go to my buddies, I see the truck down in the driveway. I'm like holy, fuck. It all kind of clicked like I know. And this guy I'd already known a little bit about him before this and once I put it together he's like I was 16. He was probably 28, lived with his parents Like a fucking loser. And so a couple days later, me and my buddy are driving past and I roll down the window and I'm like, fuck you, Elliot. His name was Elliot, if anyone wants to know shout out to elliot and I was like fuck you.
Speaker 1:Elliot and his parents were outside the house, so we go to my buddy's house park next. You know, we're just hanging out upstairs. We hear the doorbell ring, ring, ring. Like what? The fuck first of all, who rings it three times? Second well who the fuck would ring the doorbell right now and his dad's at work. So we go down and it's it's these fucking old people. We're like what the fuck are you doing here? And they're like you just screamed at our son and like you, 28 year old son they're like we need to talk to your father and they got us all in trouble.
Speaker 1:Well, I find out later because the the guy that elliot shout out that was chasing me. He was bragging about how he was 12 beers deep, chasing this kid around town, dude. Oh, my God Like can you imagine if I would have stopped and he just like beat the fuck out of me or something?
Speaker 2:Dude, that's what always freaks me out. It's like I don't want to get into a situation because, also, you don't know what crazy motherfuckers got a gun in their car.
Speaker 4:When the dude came up to my truck, your initial reaction is like I'm going to fight this guy and then you're like, all right, he could be insane. That's the guy that we had on the podcast.
Speaker 2:Alexander Denny that was how he went to prison was a road rage incident. He got pulled over by a guy. He's screaming at him, starts rushing up to him, alexander pulls out a knife and starts stabbing him. Dude, and that's why he went to prison.
Speaker 4:Yeah that could happen.
Speaker 3:That's what I know, I know I work with a guy that that happened. It was over a parking spot and then, uh, it was uh, the, and it was the dude. He was just yelling at him and then they, you know, eventually got at it and he pulls out a knife and stabs him and then he goes like he goes back into his car, he has a T-ball bat and he beat the shit out of him. Then he took him to court. He won because it was self-defense, because he was already stabbed, but he, like, he's like yeah, he talks a little slower now.
Speaker 4:He literally fucked him up With a T-ball bat.
Speaker 3:Just over a parking spot.
Speaker 2:That's nuts.
Speaker 3:In the grand scheme of things.
Speaker 2:is it worth it? Never, but it's like you never know when.
Speaker 1:like you said, what the fuck the Apple River incident where those kids got stabbed and one of them even died because they were just fucking with this old man, because he was being weird. And who would have thought he was going to stab people, kill somebody?
Speaker 1:Yeah, Like you can't fuck around with anybody. Now there's a TikTok going super viral right now. Where it's this road rager? He's like hitting this guy's window. He's got a gun in his hand. He's hitting the car with this window and also in the driver. Just pulls out his gun, shoots him in the face like three times. Whoa, like you, just you. He went from being a big bad man, fucking get the fuck out knocking his gun on his truck to just fucking.
Speaker 4:You see, he just also he was pounding on the window and then with his gun and then he shot the driver no, the driver shot the guy. Oh so the guy's pounding on the window, and then he just pulls a gun in your face. Yeah literally.
Speaker 2:Would that? Be Well, okay, so brandishing, I just went through a conceal and carry class.
Speaker 4:Yes, perfect.
Speaker 2:Brandishing your weapon with just the intent is to scare the person. That's a felony alone, right there.
Speaker 1:Just pulling it out and showing them.
Speaker 2:I have a gun. If you don't plan to use it and you're pulling it out just to scare someone, that's a felony.
Speaker 3:Or even like flashing your holsters Really, even just showing them your gun with.
Speaker 2:The intent is to de-escalate the situation by showing them your firearm. That's extremely illegal.
Speaker 4:So it's better to shoot them in the face than to show the gun.
Speaker 2:That's grounds for self-defense for sure, I mean dead man can't talk like if he. If they're bum rushing you, showing you their gun, that is intimidation, right there like that you.
Speaker 3:You have a really good case it might depend on the state too, because each state oh it definitely does what would happen if you put yourself in that guy's shoes.
Speaker 4:Let's say you were in the car and some crazy road rager on drugs, you know and you have. You have taylor in the car, you have lincoln cameron in the bags, like this is a you know, your family, it's not just you by yourself, yeah, and that guy's pounding on the window with his gun.
Speaker 2:I'm if I have a gun on me, I'm thousand percent shooting this guy first. Okay, let's my first instinct would be I'm not stopping, I'm not gonna let him be. It's not gonna get to that point, if I can go forward I'm not staying in that spot. But let's say I'm not gonna let him be. It's not gonna get to that point if I can go forward. I'm not staying in that spot. But let's say I'm in bumper to bumper traffic, a drive through whatever, yeah yeah, I'm shooting in this situation.
Speaker 4:It was bumper to bumper yeah, if I can't move, I'm shooting. But what if you pull your gun out and and he sees it before you can shoot and just dips and runs.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean you can't shoot him while he's running away.
Speaker 4:Exactly, yeah, I mean he calls the cops and said you brand brandished your weapon, you know yeah, I mean, if he did it first, you started, you could still win that.
Speaker 2:I would think if, what if he? Didn't have a gun, then are you fucked yeah, definitely, if it basically has to be the only thing you can do. I've always if you pulling it out is the only reason you are not gonna die. That is the only reason you can. I've always. If you pulling it out is the only reason you are not gonna die, that is the only reason you can I've always heard dead, men can't talk like well they say like if you're gonna use it shoot to kill, like yeah, because if you like a lot of, especially in minnesota, like if they live, you're fucked yeah regardless of the situation.
Speaker 2:They can be breaking into your house. I mean, this is a classic minnesota story someone broke into someone's house, shoots the guy, he doesn't die. He wins that lawsuit.
Speaker 4:That's insane dude, that's so. How so did he shoot him in the back or did he shoot him and?
Speaker 2:he just died. It had to have been like while he was leaving, or whatever. I can't remember exactly. But I remember him losing. I was like what.
Speaker 1:That's the thing, too, when it comes to these self-defense cases and when there's a story that's not clear cut, is you have to be good in front of the jury, even if you are 100% in the right, if you're not likable, believable, if you're an extrovert? Introvert if you're an introvert and you can't convince this jury, and then the the defendant. Sorry, my law terms are a little low right now you would be the defendant in that situation?
Speaker 1:yes, but essentially, if you can't convince the jury to like you, you can be fucked, even if you're completely right. Like you, don't want to always leave it.
Speaker 4:That's the scary part about the law.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's why you get a good lawyer they say literally on the back of this card that you get at the concealing carry course, say if you have to use it there. There's like an eight-step process. You literally keep this in your wallet all the time because if you have to use it, literally look at the back of this. You call 911. You take any weapon away from whoever you just shot, even if they're dead, whatever, make sure that nothing more can happen. You stay at the scene and you don't say a fucking word. Like you, they cops come, they're gonna ask you a shit ton of questions. You completely remain silent. You have like 48 hours to give a statement. Don't give it at the scene.
Speaker 2:Uh, it's like this whole detailed out thing and uh, yeah, I mean, anything that you say is not gonna help you regardless if you tell your side of the story, if you say anything, they will only work against you, because couldn't the plaintiff be like um, you know?
Speaker 4:oh well, then why didn't you say anything at the scene? Why?
Speaker 3:why no?
Speaker 2:because, people will like falsify what they saw, but like the or they'll. Or they'll give minor details that weren't act that didn't actually happen, and then that's grounds for you know the other person's lawyer in court. Oh yeah, they'll give minor details that weren't act that didn't actually happen, and then that's grounds for you know the other person's lawyer in court. Oh yeah, they'll use that totally against you. So that's what they say. Like you don't say anything, you say you literally you talk to your lawyer first and no matter what you go to jail?
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're going to jail, no matter what. If you use it, if you show it, whatever, like you are going to jail, yeah, you will sit. You might get out right away, but you are going to jail for sure.
Speaker 2:Yeah, if you're going in on like a friday, you're not coming out till monday for sure guaranteed yeah, so don't use it if you don't have to, obviously, but in that scenario that we were just talking about guys banging on your window with his gun, he's already in the wrong. If you got nowhere to go, yeah, you're good. I mean, he's literally got a gun.
Speaker 4:You don't know if it's loaded, it's.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're good to shoot all he has to do is turn it from here to here and you're done.
Speaker 1:You know yeah, yeah whatever, yeah, there's so many people on edge nowadays that are just looking for you to give them a reason to act crazy, and I do everything I can to never give anyone that reason like yeah you just can't fuck with people now dude, yeah, you can't pull over.
Speaker 3:Like, yeah, you just can't fuck with people now, yeah, you can't pull over. I also didn't.
Speaker 4:I didn't get out of the vehicle, I just pulled over and let's get. Yeah, what's going on? Did you roll the window down yeah, I pulled over and then I saw him get out of the car and then I put my truck. I actually put my part. I put my truck in park and then, when I saw him open the door, I put my truck and drive, because I was like if he starts, I need to go.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 4:Yeah, if he starts doing something crazy, I got to go.
Speaker 2:I think you need to hit him with a little comedic relief. Take a little edge off the situation. Maybe hit him with a yell. Take a number two with extra fries. You know something?
Speaker 4:Something just to lighten the mood, probably would have shot me, then you must work for Jimmy Johns Because you freaky fast.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So anyways, moral of the story, you know, don't shoot people If you don't have to. Kanye still hates Jews and is kind of doubling down on it.
Speaker 1:He's tripling. Actually, family channels are fucked up.
Speaker 2:They are fucked up.
Speaker 1:Especially if you're Mormon.
Speaker 2:We're going to see some laws created about them in the future.
Speaker 1:I'm sure.
Speaker 4:See you later.
