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How Matt Wurnig Swiped Right Across America
Matt Wurnig didn't set out to become a dating show creator. Before launching 50 Dates 50 States, he'd been on just five dates in his entire life. But when COVID lockdowns hit and Tinder offered free location placement anywhere in the US, a simple idea sparked what would become an internet sensation and potentially the next breakthrough reality dating format.
What makes Matt's journey so fascinating is how it transforms both his personal outlook and the dating show landscape itself. Unlike polished reality TV where contestants compete for marriage proposals after weeks of knowing each other, Matt's approach celebrates authentic connections within realistic timeframes. "It's one date," he explains, pushing back against fans who ask if he'll fall in love. "I'm somewhere meeting this person for 8-12 hours. It's hi and bye." This refreshing honesty creates a genuine experience viewers rarely see in dating content.
Season Three introduces a brilliant twist that promises to elevate the series further. Each date receives a wooden heart bearing their state's name, and Matt must decide whether to "take it or break it" afterward. With only five hearts to keep throughout his journey, this creates the elimination element viewers crave while maintaining authenticity. The format brilliantly leverages state pride—a consistent engagement driver throughout his series—while adding competitive stakes that invite audience investment. Will your state's representative make the final five? The only way to find out is by following Matt's cross-country adventure as it unfolds.
Dating itself may seem simple, but Matt's experiences reveal deeper truths about human connection. Don't set expectations before meeting someone. Present your authentic self rather than a performance. Choose activities that ease conversation pressure rather than formal dinners. And remember: "We're all people, and we're not that different. We all like to enjoy a good meal, laugh, smile, and listen to a good song." Follow Matt's journey to see these principles in action as he navigates dating across America, breaking hearts and maybe—just maybe—finding something meaningful along the way.
0:08 Dating Lessons From 50 States
8:40 Camera Dynamics and Public Filming
16:20 The Logistics of Season Two
31:55 The Good Morning America Experience
44:30 Season Three's Heart-Breaking Format
1:13:30 Advice for the Perfect First Date
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Okay, Matt, throughout your time doing 50 dates, 50 states, what do you think that has done to your perception on dating?
Speaker 2:Oh, a lot, A lot. Because when I first before 50 dates, 50 states like I started when I was 24. And before then I probably went on like maybe, maybe five dates total, you know, from zero to 24, you know, five dates total, maybe. And then I just took the bull by the horns and went on a ton and so, but a ton because I think a lot of things for me, like I learned oh, don't set expectations going into a date because it often leads to disappointment, and a lot of people do that leads to disappointment, and a lot of people do that.
Speaker 2:Girls and guys, where they meet someone and then they creep their insta profile and they're like, oh, this person's gonna be great, or the small interaction they had with them before they met or before they had a date, they like set this really high standard and then it's like, oh well, that didn't go like I wanted or anything. So you got to go into things like a lot more free range, easy going, relaxed, being yourself, especially as a guy. Guys try to put on this flex with girls, like they are more than they are and stuff. It's like, what do you try? She's going to see through that at some point, like, if this goes well and you guys continue to date, she's going to be like wait, you are none of these things during the first, you know, experience the phony guy yeah exactly Exactly that and, um, I think, like you know, the biggest thing is just, you know, being confident.
Speaker 2:girls love it when a guy's confident and, uh, I think, making a girl comfortable. It's crazy to hear the horror stories I hear from some of my dates and they're just like, yeah, this creepy guy or this thing and it's like he like turns them off from the whole night, like they don't want to be there anymore.
Speaker 2:Because one sentence a guy says, or how he acts or his body language is just like jeez. You dudes need to chill a little bit, you know, and just make sure you make the girl feel comfortable. That's like half to three-fourths. The battle is like, you know, they're probably. It's like almost like a new or not news, a job interview. It's like going into it.
Speaker 2:It's like oh, like you could be nervous, but like for them they're probably way more nervous going into a date than a guy is because guys can be sketchy or creepy or weird.
Speaker 1:And get away with it. Yeah, you know, and so that's the.
Speaker 2:You know, I've learned a lot of different things when it comes to going on dates.
Speaker 1:Well, I mean, when you think about it kind of, is an interview Like? It is like as root reason why you're there? You're interviewing for a potential you know, lifelong partner? I mean I'm sure you get this question all the time, obviously, lifelong partner I mean I'm sure you get this question all the time, obviously do you catch feelings for these girls. But, deeper than that, do you think that that dynamic makes it harder to carry out a friendship with these people long-term? Or these interactions get strange because they know that this isn't a real thing, or you did you understand what I'm saying?
Speaker 2:Yeah, A hundred percent. Yeah, I'm picking up what you're putting down. Um, it's uh for me and I like this. Yeah, yeah, 100%, I'm picking up what you're putting down. It's for me and I like this. Some people might take this good or bad or positive or negative, but I kind of get a pass as being the 50 dates, 50 states. Guy, I get to go on a date with a girl and it's very there's not a lot of weight to it. They're like, oh, this is fun. He's like a content creator, he goes on dates and he's like leaving the next day and like there's not this weight to it that a normal date would be where. It's like oh, a guy and a girl, you know, go to the same school or they met in the grocery store or they met at the bar or wherever it is like and they live in the same town.
Speaker 2:me it's hey, it's high, and by it's almost more like a vacation fling, yes yes, exactly right and so Right and so, which honestly I really enjoy, because when I go on these dates, there's not pressure Like there's. No, there's not. How many kids do you want? What do you want to do?
Speaker 2:Like it's like not like sometimes that comes up and that's fine, but there's not like a weight to that question. It's just like oh, we know I'm going to be here for a night and I'm leaving tomorrow, so like cool, like we're just getting to know each other and we're having a fun time, and so that's one thing I really like about it, because I feel like girls open up a lot more to me that way. And there are things with what I do that's different, like if I have a cameraman filming, me and a girl on a date that's not normal.
Speaker 2:But one of my favorite things in the world is when I'm on a date and I have a cameraman with me and he's filming and they start opening up and they forget the cameraman's there and they start sharing some things that are really deep or personal, and then they go, oh my gosh, can we cut that, or can we?
Speaker 2:and then of course, I'll be like yes, like I'm not looking at to expose them, for something or share a story or get views off of a you know, traumatic or dramatic story of theirs, but it makes me feel so good because they were present and comfortable with me enough to open up and and forget about the camera and so, uh, you know it's, it just kind of depends. But yeah, I think having a lot more of a light-hearted atmosphere going on these dates is is definitely nice, for sure.
Speaker 3:Yeah it makes complete sense. You know, just to take the, it's like we're just trying to have fun. Yeah, you know, it's not like you're. You're not going on these dates being like we're gonna fall in love. This is gonna last forever.
Speaker 3:So I I totally agree. One thing that I was really curious about is the whole premise of the show is going on these dates. Do you find yourself being pressured to not find a significant other that you want to be serious about because once you have a girlfriend it's like how you know, how do you go on the dates? Like I just figured? That would be a struggle in its own.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, no, it's a great question and I guess for me, like uh, I get asked this a ton by news and like when I've been on uh different tv interviews or things like that, uh, where people are like, oh, like, well, what happens if you fall in love or how do you not fall in love, type thing, and I, I think people forget it's one date like like it's like, but like.
Speaker 2:I think people forget that because they like these reality dating shows, they like that's kind of the goal of all of them is to get married or have a wife or a husband and fall in love. And it's like no, I am somewhere and I'm meeting this person, with this person, with this person for eight to 12 hours, you know, and it's like high and by. So how can you find love when you're meeting so? And like again, there's, there's girls I meet that are awesome and I think that if I lived in that state or area, great, uh. But you know, there's a kind of a journey to accomplish and a brand to fulfill of going on a date in each state. And so I don't feel the pressure in that way when I break it down for people like that, because then they go oh, I guess you're right a little bit. But sometimes I feel the pressure of having an outcome, I guess of some sort.
Speaker 2:But that's the weird thing about my brand is like okay, it's a date in every state, but like what are you going to? You're not going to marry someone at the end of the season, you know, you could maybe have a girlfriend, but again, a girlfriend after one date, like again, that's still. That's not really that authentic or realistic and that's one thing I really want my brand to be different about, versus like the bachelor and things like that, because the bachelor that's just not I. I would love to see this stat. If anybody has this stat out there, please comment it. This would be awesome. But uh, like I'd be so curious how many past seasons of the bachelor or bachelor bachelorette, how many of them have actually got married, like in it's lasted?
Speaker 2:I'm curious like they might get married, for you know the plot of it right you know, not actually go through they split up yeah, but I'm so curious in the past like 10 to 15 seasons, how many are actually together still? To this, yeah, I bet you maybe in the last 15. I bet you less than five like out of both shows so 30 seasons between bachelor and bachelorette. I bet you less than five. And just because it's not a realistic way to oh, you're going to marry someone that was macking on three other girls like two weeks before, like that's just that's not normal.
Speaker 1:That's a really good point, yeah, and part of it's like this is not a normal way to like get into that sort of relationship with someone you don't know everything. That sort of relationship with someone you don't know everything, like you might have a really cool banger first date, but if you get married and then you realize that they like they clip their toes over the kitchen sink and leave them you know what I mean. Like you don't see these red flags, 100 until later on exactly well a first date.
Speaker 2:You are on your best performance, like the girl and the guy. You're kind of like you know, you're kind of putting yourself out there and you're trying to perform your best, like we kind of talked about being a job interview. It's like you know, you're kind of putting yourself out there and you're trying to perform your best, like we kind of talked about being a job interview. It's like you know, you're going up and you're showing up and so you don't know all the flaws in the ins and outs, because you want. It's kind of like what they call Instagram, like they call Instagram your personal highlight reel. That's kind of how you are when you're on a date. It's like you're trying to act your best, be your best, and you don't want them to see all the bad things or maybe your flaws or red flags or things like that, until you guys get closer. So first dates are nuts that way.
Speaker 3:Absolutely, and it goes off of the cliched thing that everyone says is just be yourself. But it couldn't be more true, because if you pretend to be this guy, they're eventually going to know who the fuck that guy is.
Speaker 2:A hundred percent, no doubt it's just like. Like. That's why I never understood why, guys, I've heard of this. This blew my mind. Someone, someone told me that they knew someone who, uh, rented a vehicle, like rented a sports car to pick a girl up in to to pose it off, that it was his. I'm like, what are you doing?
Speaker 2:like you, if the worst idea yeah, if you know, I get it. If you're just trying to, you know, be a romeo or wheel and deal or have a one night stand or whatever you're trying to do, even then I don't get it. But I guess I understand it more. But still, it's just like what are you doing, dude? Just show up, do your thing. Oh, it just makes no sense to me show up to the date.
Speaker 1:That that does blow my mind, but you know, this makes uh, this makes a lot of business sense like what's the roi on this? Investment are you getting?
Speaker 2:what you need out of this. Maybe it does stay in the night. Is she cooking eggs in the morning then? Then, damn right, that was worth it. That was worth the 300 an hour for this lambo.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, that's exactly it so walk us through the start of 50 dates, 50 states like States. You had this idea. You started in. What 2020?
Speaker 2:Yeah, virtual dates yep, okay so virtual dates in 2020.
Speaker 1:How did you come up with this? You're just like one day, you're like you know what? I'm going to start going on dates with girls like this. But where did the idea come from?
Speaker 2:COVID, definitely. When COVID hit and I mean we all know when COVID hit we were like what the hell is this? And everybody was locked in. Business is shut down. Yeah, things are going to be weird. For two weeks in the office, everything was shut down, and so I hopped on Tinder, as a bored single bachelor would do, and it said a notification popped up and it said that you could place your location anywhere in the US for free.
Speaker 1:And I'm like.
Speaker 2:Oh well, that's kind of fun.
Speaker 2:And so I started placing it in, like you know, la, miami, new York, dallas, the big cities. And when I started getting matches with a bunch of these gals I was like, okay, well, this is cool, but if anything, it was just a confidence booster because I couldn't take them on dates or do anything. And so I realized Zoom was on the rise and I'm like, okay, what if I went on a virtual date with a girl in a receipt? That sounds kind of interesting and a fun pandemic project. And also I like to entertain. And the world was so negative. Then you guys remember, like COVID death, everything you saw on media or news, covid death rates, where it was spreading. Things started getting really political and it's just like, oh my gosh, like how can I turn people's attention away from that, maybe, and do something a lot more lighthearted and entertaining, on a virtual date with a girl in every state. And I had no, no clue what the fuck I was doing. Uh, when it came to posting stuff on social media like I had no idea.
Speaker 2:I just like was I was recording all my dates on zoom and I would just like put out little clips, uh, on social media and then all of a sudden it started really gaining attraction and I'm like, oh shit, like there's something here this and I always knew it was. I thought it was a good idea and it got like great response when I put it out there and kind of announced what I was doing. I got a news interview the next day, like after I announced it and so, just like a lot of people, I got nothing but positive feedback and something people were fascinated in, and so that was kind of the origin story of it. Obviously I can share about how it went with season one and season two, but uh, yeah, that was kind of the origin story. Just putting out clips going on dates, I cannot believe, looking back, what I would go on three or four virtual dates a night.
Speaker 1:And so it was so funny boys.
Speaker 2:It was hilarious. I'd literally sit there and I'd be on a date with a girl, you know, just meeting this girl over the computer from like Kansasansas, and then I'd be like, hey, like it's been great, but I actually got to go. I have a date with a girl in idaho. And then she'd be like, okay, like they knew, they knew what was going on, and they just like, okay, and then I'd hang up and then I'd jump on the call with idaho and then, and then I'd be like, okay, I gotta go. I got a date with california, like, and I did that like three or four dates a night, which is so funny to think about. You know, so.
Speaker 1:That's hilarious. So now, when so was all of season one virtual.
Speaker 2:So no, I kind of combined two things into one for season one All the virtual dates, all the girls I went on virtual dates with.
Speaker 2:I decided to go meet them all in person and so I kind of consider all of that season one between the virtual dates and then going to meet them all in person when I quit my job, hit the road, visit them all in person, and then season two, completely new dates, this time girls applied. And then I got a new vehicle cameraman management team, editor, things like that, and really took it to a new level.
Speaker 3:Dude. What is that process like, when you know, especially someone like you said yourself, you only had five dates leading up to it when you're looking for applications and there's just thousands of them rolling in that had to?
Speaker 2:be a little bit of an ego boost. I can only assume, dude, it was. It was so funny like season two, because season one, how I got all my dates, was through tinder, during the pandemic was, you know, placing my location, all these spots. And then I started meeting some girls through social media when I it started rolling a little bit. Uh so, between social media and Tinder was how I met my date season one. But season two, like you mentioned, when I had girls apply and then the date applications and we had, we had over 10,000 applications in less than two months, so basically 10,000 women applying to go on a date with me. Oh, I was like comma on gee, dude, I'm like, oh yeah, it made me feel so cool and so good.
Speaker 2:You know I was like this is awesome, right, and it was so much less stressful that way where I just had to, like, go through applications, and it was so funny because I'd catch myself sometimes complaining. I'd be like, oh my gosh, I like. I've spent three hours going through at like Alabamaabama's applications and then I'd stop and I'd be like, all right, matt, you need to shut the fuck up like I'm like I am literally shuffling through women that I get to choose to go on a date with in each state like it's like dream tinder, yeah, yeah, exactly where it's like unlimited likes on everyone's a match.
Speaker 3:You're, it's like a hot girl on tinder. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because, like I always wondered, because you know, being being a guy like myself, tinder is not always friendliest to you and I always look like at the hot chicks and it's like god every time they swipe. Yes, they probably get a match.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, that's gotta be a nice feeling oh, it made me feel so good and it was just so cool though, because, like it was so different. I remember there was a little bit of drama in season one, um, with like in both seasons, uh, my dates, they all had a group chat. Uh, they had a group chat with me and a group chat without me in both seasons, which is intimidating as fuck. Um, but in season one there was a little bit of drama and I remember a bunch of the dates they had like threatened to quit, uh, and they were like, oh, you know what we'll leave, and all the stuff. In season one I was just like no, like don't, like, it's like I think there's just like a misunderstanding of what you guys saying. In season two. If something like that happened, I would have been like all right, there's the door. Like I, like I wish I was just like like respectfully, like I wouldn't have been an asshole. But I would have been like okay, if you're like threatening to not be in the series, that's okay.
Speaker 2:If you don't want to be in it, like yeah, again, there's the door, I'll pick somebody else there's a line of people that would gladly be the you know tennessee date or whoever, whatever state it is, and so there was definitely a shift in that when it came to it and I just like wanted people, uh, wanted girls to be part of the experience, that truly like, were interested in being part of the experience. Not like and it's hard to filter if they're clout chasers or if they're, and but like I don't think I get asked that question sometimes and people are like, oh, like, what about the girls who might be just clout chasers doing this to me? I don't think it's if, if they're solely in it for that, yeah that's bad. But like I understand if girls apply because they get a little bit of total footage, like that's's part of the thing.
Speaker 2:It's obviously not for genuine. Yeah exactly, Exactly Like, and so I totally understand if girls are applying because of like, oh, you're getting some love on social media or being on or getting a date paid for and maybe getting on the news and like, I totally get that fun side of it, so there's no problem with that to me.
Speaker 1:So walk us through the logistics of planning season two. You've already gone through all of season one. You know what to expect. You've learned the nuances, the bad things Setting up for season two. Now you have a filmer with you, you have your vehicle, you already kind of have an idea of what you're going to spend in fuel, probably, like you have a management team now at season two, like what is all the logistics? That goes on that people might not understand.
Speaker 2:Well, season two was so much different than season one. Season one it was me and my F-150 running around the US with my iPhone, like that's like basically the just of it. Season two was just like I had so many more people I had to uh, I don't know if address is the right word, but just work with right Editor, pr team management, team manager and then cameraman, and so it's like one thing. That was really or I guess I'll touch on the logistics of it Like, basically in season two I had been, when I announced season two, this management company that was based out of Michigan reached out to me and they were really interested in, you know, managing me for the season, and I had never been managed me for the season and I had never been managed before in that world, and I was just like, okay, I guess we'll see how it is. So they flew me out there. I met with them. Uh, it seemed like they knew what they were doing and they uh seemed to impress me really well and so, partnered with them, we shook hands on a deal for the season and, um, then we just got the ball rolling on a lot of stuff and they moved fast, which is one thing I really liked about them. It's just like, okay, they're gonna get the ball rolling on things and whatnot, um, and so it just like it kind of was a domino effect.
Speaker 2:It's hard to explain the logistics, I guess, of, uh, you know, getting other people involved because just working with them and doing a lot of domino effect with it. But the logistics of planning a season are monstrous when it comes to mapping out every place you're going to go, like the route is huge, and scheduling the dates. Because in season one I was like I was a lot, I felt like I wasn't as blunt. I guess you could say when it came to the dates I'd be like, hey, does this week work for you? I would like talk to my dates. And then I'd build a schedule out that way.
Speaker 2:In season two, when I picked a girl, I'd call her and I'd basically be like hey, or before I even hopped on a call with her and I would text her and let her know that she was the winning date for this or the the pick for this state, I'd say I'd say, okay, does this date work May 2nd? And they'd be like yes or no. And I'd be like yes or no. And if they said yes, then we'd hop on a call and I explained how everything worked and then, but it was like this is the day you have to go on the date. It's not. There's no flexibility here.
Speaker 1:It's like this is you got to plan this out? Yes, like the route that you're picking. How do you, how do you choose what route you go through? All the states like is there a most efficient way to travel?
Speaker 2:I just just I mean, I it probably depends person by person, but just obviously trying to map it out the most efficient. On a road trip, you know, kind of vibe, like you don't want to be going from Texas to New York and then California, like you want to just like, oh, maybe you're going to go up the East Coast and then down South and then up and down through the Midwest and some flyover states and whatnot, like. So just kind of mapping it out that way. But that's the that's one of the biggest monsters is just mapping all that out, getting the dates set in terms of the timing and then the girls for each state and then planning what we're going to do in each state and then also just letting businesses know that we might be coming into film and all that. There's just so many things to do in that regard. So a lot of moving parts to the season for sure.
Speaker 3:When you're doing the dates? Have you ever had other businesses or people be weird about you filming out in public? Because I'm sure it's got to be awkward when you got your phone out.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. Well, you know what's crazy is. One thing I learned in season two, when I had a cameraman, is when they're following me and a girl around First off side note, a camera person is great marketing, phenomenal marketing, because if we walk into a bar or a restaurant and a camera is following us and 90% of the people in there don't know who we are, everybody knows by the time we leave.
Speaker 1:Because they're just like what is that?
Speaker 2:What are they filming, what's going on? And then it just spreads like a brush fire and so can't. A cameraman is great marketing in terms of just where you're going, what you're doing, people asking what you're filming. But anyway, I learned with a camera person the logistics are off the charts when it comes to filming in places, because and what I learned is is, if I called places ahead of time and talked to them like hey, we're part of the show, uh, you know, we're gonna have a cameraman and me and a girl on a date, they more than likely said no. They were like oh, we're no, we're not, we like aren't comfortable with that.
Speaker 2:Because, yeah, because they, when I say, oh, I have a camera, like they are thinking so much different in their head they're like, oh my gosh, is he gonna have a bunch of camera people, microphones.
Speaker 2:Like they are thinking so much different in their head they're like, oh my gosh, is he going to have a bunch of camera people, microphones, like they're thinking this is going to be this huge production and it's going to disrupt the guests or their atmosphere. And so what worked a lot better is if we just showed up and I was just like, hey, like this is how it works. Like. Or you know, hey, is it okay if he films us? We're just doing this? They're like oh yeah, like know, hey, is it okay if he films us? We're just doing this. They're like, oh yeah, like it. Because they saw, it was just me, my date and one camera person and I like to think I'm an approachable person and so I was always very friendly with people and so, like that was a lot easier going into places versus trying to be efficient, you would think oh, totally ahead of time and that didn't.
Speaker 2:That didn't work out. So, um, yeah, that was on the camera side. When it comes to the phone side, uh, like it just depends now. Now I'm I'm fine with it, sometimes like I'll cringe myself out if I like him with a date she wants to do like a trend or something like it's like a dancing trend on her phone. We have to set it down and we're like in a busy mall.
Speaker 1:I'm like, oh my gosh I'm like, I just like my heart's pounding.
Speaker 2:I'm like, oh no, i't want to do this, but I never want to be that guy that's too cool or anything. And if my, if my date wants to do it, I'll do it because she wants to and stuff. True gentleman, yeah, you know. But and also, if I'm, but if I'm filming something, I don't, I, to be to be honest, like this is my career. So if I'm like documenting something, like as long as I'm not disrupting people, like I think it's weird. If I'm like what's up, tiktok, or something like that you know.
Speaker 2:But if I'm just like at a bar and grill and I'm with my date and I'm like, I'm like, all right, I'm here with my date, Maya, and we're going to do this challenge where we could see who could drink the fastest Long Island or we could drink the long that and that doesn't bug me at all.
Speaker 1:But if it's more of a dance or something a lot more vibrant for people to see, I'm like, okay, this is totally, especially the trendy ones at the time I would imagine that's got to be a lot of your own personal growth is stepping out of your comfort zone with all these different people. They all have different perceptions of you. They have different perceptions of you. They have different perceptions of reality, like you're constantly stepping out of your comfort zone, especially when you're having to do something like that. Yeah, I think that just probably makes you a better person in general. You're a realize you kind of humble yourself, like, oh okay.
Speaker 2:I got a little anxiety. After all, you know, yeah, yeah, no, it's it. You definitely are constant. That's a good point. You're definitely constantly pushing your comfort zone doing these things, and it could be anything from putting yourself out there in a social atmosphere, filming yourself in public doing things on a date that you're not comfortable with, like I hate. I'm not a big rollercoaster guy and I've had to go on dates at, like theme parks where they love rollercoasters and I'm like do it, you got to do it. Or I'm not a big plane guy and, ironically, the gal I went on a date with in Minnesota season two, she was a little pilot at the aviation college in Mankato and so she took me out on a plane and watched the sunset.
Speaker 3:I missed that one dude. That's badass, it was awesome.
Speaker 2:She took me out to watch the sunset over Minneapolis. It was beautiful. And but I'm like, oh my gosh, in this little plane with a girl I just met, who knows if she's a good pilot or not, I don't know but I'm just like, oh, this is stressing me out. But I'm pushing my car and then her and her cameraman screw them.
Speaker 2:To this day they teamed up and they planned this little prank on me because they know I didn't like flying and she stalled the engine and so the plane went and I like lost my mind I'm like, and then she like turns it up. And then she did it like three times and I was freaking out Like you got to stop, like I'm going to lose my mind. But so yeah, constantly pushing the comfort zone, whether it's like on camera in public doing you know a crazy date activity, or like that's fearful of mine or whatever you know, just constant things. But that's good for anybody to push your comfort zone totally absolutely.
Speaker 3:I want to take it back a little bit to when you first got started during covid times, because everything was online, you weren't seeing people in person and all of a sudden you have this notoriety but everyone's stuck at home. So I guess my question is was it weird having notoriety and fame during covid and then also when covid ended and you start getting out there and all of a sudden you're going to to the gas station and someone's like hey, I know you have TikTok. That had to be a lot to comprehend at the time.
Speaker 2:It was yeah, like I didn't. Uh, I just I guess I when I hit the road I had a hundred and like I got 150,000 followers on TikTok or 160,000 followers on TikTok and like in my head I just I guess obviously like 160,000 people is a lot of people, but I guess I didn't feel this like bulk of fame or anything. And so like the first state when I pulled up to a gas station was in Wyoming and I got recognized from people, I was just like oh, just like, oh, my gosh, like this is this could actually be kind of a thing, or like is this gonna happen in all 50 states? Like I don't know, um, but it was really cool and I'm a social person, so I'm, you know it was easy to kind of take that in um during the covet time. It was just, it was weird just getting kind of this first introduction to like internet fame or clout.
Speaker 1:You know, I had like yeah, I had.
Speaker 2:I had an instagram and stuff, but like I'd post here and there, but like it was, I never experienced like going viral or anything, and so it was cool just to like see that happen. And and it was just surprising to me, it was like crazy that I would post a clip and I wouldn't even really like I in content. The content has changed so much and algorithms and platforms but but like it, it blew like things that I didn't think would get that many views, but I'm like okay, well, I'm just going to put it out there. It would just like blow up, but it was just because, like of COVID and the time we were in, and and mine was a series, so it was followable, right, and so it was just, you know, kind of fascinating in that regard, but not overwhelming by any means in the beauty of your brand is people can rally behind it.
Speaker 3:Like I remember waiting for, like I can't wait for minnesota to come up, and it gets everybody involved. It's, it's the perfect premise yeah, that's.
Speaker 2:That's the one thing I've learned and that's like why I have a lot of pride with my brand is, uh, I just like everybody has state pride and so if they come across my show they're like, oh, who's the girl in kentucky, who's the girl in new york? Like, because they want to like, it's just natural state pride. I remember it hit me one time uh, I was. It was when the rams and the uh oh, who did the rams play in the super bowl a couple years ago the bengals.
Speaker 2:Was it the rams and the bengals? Okay, so I asked my family I was with with my family when we were watching it and I'm like, oh, who are you guys rooting for? Like in Montana, we don't have any pro sports team. And they were like, oh, we're going for the Rams. And I'm like, why the Rams? And they were like, oh, because there's a guy on the Rams who went to college in Wyoming or he's from state rivalries.
Speaker 2:Like there's a little beef between, like, Wisconsin and Minnesota a little bit and, like Michigan and Ohio, there's some beef there and so it's like, even if people in those states see the date in their state, they're like, oh, who's the Ohio girl? Screw her.
Speaker 2:You know just immediately, but like it's kind of the competitive edge of state pride just from viewership, and so that's why I think there's a lot of value in my brand of 58 city states and I also want to highlight places that aren't normally highlighted. If you look at the bachelor in some of these series they pick five girls from la and three girls from dallas and two girls from miami and a couple from uh nashville. And's like there are so many other states out there to show a little bit of love, to give some love to these smaller Midwest states or some up on the Upper East Coast. Like there's places that you know aren't. Maybe they don't have the big cities or aren't as glamorous or entertaining, but there's still a lot of good people out there and some and at least from my side of things when it comes to the dates a lot of good looking women and stuff too.
Speaker 2:It's like hell they're out there, man, and so you got to show every state some love, and so I just think that that's a huge value of the brand a lot of blondes on the page.
Speaker 3:Yeah, oh, yeah, yeah, I get a lot of.
Speaker 1:I get a lot of shit for that yeah, that's fair yeah, it's safe to say that you definitely have a type, I think right yeah, I yeah, that's probably accurate yeah yeah, I've definitely got some heat for that.
Speaker 2:I remember I my most viral video is me uh shuffling through my dates in season two and it's just like everybody in the comments, just like, oh, bro's got a type and oh, it's uh like what was the phrase they use.
Speaker 2:It's like same same page, different font, or something like that, you know, just like everybody else to me, and then it's like people calling me racist because I don't have enough diversity, and it's like, oh my gosh, these people are crazy, but it's just like I'm sitting there eating my popcorn while it's going viral right.
Speaker 3:Oh my god, this is good comments, they help push yeah, exactly exactly.
Speaker 1:So I'm just like oh, whatever, yeah, any engagement is good engagement, obviously. Do you? Do you read through all your comments, do you like? Do you see most everything coming in?
Speaker 2:uh, no, I it depends like I'm actually pretty bad at that and I've been bad at that is like some, I'll try to reply to things. If I check notifications and like on a specific video or something like I'll try to reply to a handful of people because one, that's good engagement, but two, it's just good to like. You know, if someone asks a question in the comments, to respond to them or whatever, and obviously can't respond to all of them, but like um, I've been bad about that in the past, like where I've gotten texts by dates or family or friends, like do you see the comments on on this?
Speaker 2:or or like dates will be like hey, can you delete this comment because of bashing or something and like I tell all my dates that ahead of time I'm like, hey, if there's ever like something really towards you because everybody's got insecurities, or like people could just be dicks online and they just like go in on one of my dates, like why is her hair like this, or her makeup or something, and like if I don't see it, it's just sitting there for people to be like, yeah, what the hell. And so I've like had to delete comments because of what people are saying and whatnot, and so. But I definitely don't read all my comments and I'll try to reply to some here and there or DMs or whatnot, but I probably should more.
Speaker 1:No, I think you're probably in the minority, because I think what happens with most people, that's like they get sucked into reading and then you start doom scrolling through the comments.
Speaker 2:Oh, no, dude, and then you just really get down on it. No that's bad. You can't do that. You cannot, especially if that's negative or some heat Like that's bad, that's bad for the mental. Oh, Instagram reels are tough I will never read the Insta comments.
Speaker 1:I love seeing a video on TikTok and then the top comment will be like post this on Instagram.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, because they're not as filtered with the comments.
Speaker 2:Yes, ruthless, I remember I posted a video in montana, my home state screw those guys out there, what the hell? I posted it. I was in red lodge, montana, and I went to like a little coffee shop and I just like kind of vlogged it and put it on my insta. Oh, I, for some reason it you know caught some good engagement and did good numbers and it just hit the montana audience and all the comments were just like get out of our state, you Californian. I'm like I'm not from California Just because I'm vlogging. You think I'm from California. I'm like I'm from here, you ask, but everybody's just like get out of our state.
Speaker 1:This is Montana and I'm just like, oh my gosh, they're just bashing me Just because I went to grab a coffee. It was like like, all right guys, screw all we. We had one clip that hit a bad side of instagram where I was talking about how the caffeine content and diet coke is the same as red bull, which is so wrong and I was like I don't know if that sounds no, it was not accurate, but for some reason I don't know what I had read that was.
Speaker 1:I might have been comparing like a mini red bull or something to like a 12 ounce diet coke yeah, whatever. So I had fully stood on business and said, like diet coke is the same caffeine. You were just all in. I made it into a clip and we had posted this and it and it had got good traction. But then I'm looking at the comments and I'm like oh, like the top comment was like a simple google search revealed this is not the case.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm pretty sure we got ratioed on it even. Oh no, oh, that's tough.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was embarrassing, but it was funny because it was like damn okay. Well, hey, at least there's views yeah yeah, right, right.
Speaker 2:Well, people do that, people do like the rage bait where they, like would say something like that, on purpose even though they knew, would say something like that on purpose, even though they knew, or like one thing. Uh, people could think of it as like a tip or trick. I've never done it, Uh, I don't think so at least, but like a lot of times people they'll like misspell a word purposely or something.
Speaker 2:So then the comments blow up and they're like wow, he doesn't know how to spell or what the. And then it just like you get a hundred comments of people trying to grammatically correct you.
Speaker 1:And you're just like I knew the whole time. So what I found out actually recently is that there's a real role at big social media companies called like a social engagement engineer, and there's people this is really big with like parody cooking channels where it's like put two eggs in and they'll only crack one egg. Oh yes, Shit like that that they'll slip in, so that it, like you, breeds more comments that was only one egg yes yeah, yeah, yeah, stuff like that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's a real role for someone to analyze the script and be like oh, we could put something here. That's crazy that's fascinating.
Speaker 2:It is rageful, though. I've seen those cooking ones and yeah, they're like all you need is four ingredients and then they put in like eight and you're like, yeah, you're so wrong, you're terrible.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, they got me, they got, they get me. Every time until I found that out, I'm like, okay, that's smart, but fuck you.
Speaker 2:Yes, I don't like that those little things, that that's one thing that kind of bugs me as a content creator and like maybe it's just because I've done this so long, like, or I guess, for you know, four years, five years, whatever it is like I can tell when someone's trying to like, manipulate the viewer into watching their video and it just seems like unauthentic. It's like, hey, I have three social media tips I'm going to give you guys today, and the best one is at the end and it's like it's like that's not how anybody talks.
Speaker 2:Nobody talks like that Nor, and like you're just doing that, so people stay to the end. So, and I get it like I. I understand it from a content creator side, but it's just like I. It's just like come on, like what do you? I?
Speaker 3:just that bugs me so much I noticed a lot of that when tiktok shop first started popping off, because people at that point were like pretending it wasn't an ad. Yes, like now people are pretty open, like everyone knows what you're doing, but before it'd be like they try to slip it in front of you, almost like a brand deal where it's like I know what you're doing, yeah, yeah, a hundred percent it's hard to be authentic when it comes to like promotion or ad or things like that, and it's so weird with, like, some brand deals.
Speaker 2:I've done how they just want to like. They want me to read a script and I'm like what are you guys like this?
Speaker 2:isn't gonna resonate with anybody, like I don't know what you're thinking behind this and I'll try to share my two cents. And then they're just like no, we really want to follow it this way and it just doesn't make any sense. There's that old quote where it says it's like oh, the corporate marketing people. They go into a room and they go what's the dumbest idea we could think of? And then they do it like that's what so many corporate like big brands do, it just like. I don't understand why they don't try to have more of a authentic approach versus like this script style.
Speaker 1:Well, they're coming from like the traditional marketing world. It's like you see this billboard and this is a billboard. Yeah, it's a, it's a disruption, it's like a thing that pops up. Yes, that's just like you have to notice it. Yes, but you know, what a lot of people are starting to realize is it just does better if it feels natural. 100%. This is the person I like. If they really fuck with this product, then I'm way more likely to buy it. We actually just turned down our first brand deal because of this. Really, yeah, so we're kind of big time in brands.
Speaker 2:Hell yeah, hell yeah.
Speaker 3:Hell yeah, let's go.
Speaker 1:No, but it was like I don't want to mention anything just in case we do something with them in the future. But they said we don't want a specific break in the content, we want you to just bring it up naturally in the conversation. And they sent me some examples of what it was like and they're just like oh yeah, oh, this thing, this thing is blah, blah, blah, blah, and they name off the ingredients and you have to hit on all these key points. It's like that's weird. Yeah, we don't talk like that. Yeah, I cannot do that. Yeah, it has to be clipped in, otherwise, like I'm not gonna just tell someone like oh, you should drink bush light because it has wheat and it has water and it, you know what. Like I'm not gonna talk like that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's weird 100 that you know I will never understand. Uh, the podcast advertising. Like to me I have never heard anybody when when they listen to a podcast and an ad pops up, they skip through. They like, they like, click the 10 second fast forward or whatever they're just like, like no one. So I am so fascinated like I don't have a big podcast and I don't know what it's like to have a big podcast, so I can't you know tom, neither do we stop it.
Speaker 2:Stop it right now that's not true, uh, but like I don't understand, like I guess, from like a like, if you're joe rogan, right, like, obviously, if you get any ad space on that show, he's the biggest podcast in the world. That's freaking awesome. But again, I feel like anytime I've watched joe rogan podcast or clip, I'm like skipping. Yes, anytime it comes to an ad, and so, and also, every podcast ad is, it's literally script, it's like hey, this is why you should go to pizza hut because they have their new, uh, big box deal where it's 20 like it's, it's red, everyone, it's not like fun, it's radio. And so I I'm so curious from like a brand side, what their like metrics are behind.
Speaker 2:If it just big, oh they have a lot of listeners and like we want it this way or like I think it's way better if, like you guys, if you guys are sponsored by, if you guys are sponsored by an arizona tea and you have a bunch of arizona teas on, totally like that's just that's we're talking. But there's product placement yeah, right, and and maybe there's a break in the show or whatever. But again, I'd bank on more of like the product placement or the atmosphere.
Speaker 3:Right, if you were, if we were a brand, so that those kind of throw me off yeah, the only example that I can think of when it comes to the podcast and just social media advertising in general is manscaped like the lawnmower 3.0 or whatever they're at now and honestly, I think that's because they just forced it so much towards this, where it's like, I think razor, I think manscaped and yeah it's not like, oh, they have the best product, but it's like they just get stuck in your head, that's.
Speaker 2:That's a good point, like the reps, yeah it's like oh my gosh, they're in everything, like timu did, like four super bowl ads or whatever it was, and it's just like jesus. Like, how much money does timu have? That was all over social media, I turn on the Super Bowl and it's Timu the reps. Definitely that makes sense If you're doing mass output, spending a ton of ad dollars.
Speaker 1:That actually freaked me out, because I didn't realize that it wasn't Timu, that it's Temu. Oh, it's Temu.
Speaker 2:That's how you say it.
Speaker 1:That's what all the commercials were saying Temu, Temu, Temu.
Speaker 3:I don't know, if it's a translation thing or what.
Speaker 1:But that was one thing. I'm like whoa, I've been saying it wrong this whole time, I'm not going to change. But that's weird that you would say it like that.
Speaker 2:That is wow. They need to really fix because I've done a couple brand deals with Temu. That's what they say, that's what the commercial said. They need to really be a little bit more key on that, because in my videos that I've got approved from them, I've said Timu and they haven't corrected me. I'm sure they've just accepted it. Yeah, but that would be if I had a certain brand name and someone said it wrong. I want to make sure they said it right.
Speaker 2:You know, like that's how, like, if I don't know, I'm trying to think of an example 50 states, 50 dates. 50 states, 50 dates.
Speaker 3:That's self-explanatory. I'm sure you get that one a lot.
Speaker 2:Oh, you're saying, if it's swapped around 50 states 50. Yeah, that bugs me. That like not on, I mean it's not like I'll be like say it right or anything like that, because people say that all the time, people, which is so weird, dude, I had to practice.
Speaker 3:I kept fucking it up up until today.
Speaker 2:And it's funny because when I came up with the name for the brand I was debating, I'm like, okay, do I do 50 States, 50 dates or 50 dates, 50 States? And to me in my head, 50 dates, 50 States flows better. But I swear, a lot of the time when I meet people they're like, oh, you're 50 States, 50 dates, like they say. And so I'm just like, did I make a marketing branding name mistake? But I don't know, know, you know, in my head I'm like I thought this went more fluent to me and so, yeah, but that yeah.
Speaker 1:So sometimes, but again, if someone were to google 50 states, 50 dates, I'm gonna pop up yeah, so that's I'm like, oh, whatever yeah, type thing same same with temu temu whatever if you type in t-e-m you, you're gonna go to the website exactly you know, it doesn't sound like anything else. Yeah, whatever, 100, 100. So let's, let's bring it back.
Speaker 2:The um, now you're going to go to their website. You know it doesn't sound like anything else. Yeah, whatever, 100%, 100%.
Speaker 1:So let's bring it back Now. You're about to start season three. Yes, so I mean, bring us into the logistics. How are you going to switch things up for this new season? I know you had pivoted a little bit because I had heard in some of your previous podcasts that you've been on while we were researching you for this that you were going to have a girl go on this season three yes, yep.
Speaker 2:So after season two, I uh, you know, had my finale on good morning america, new york, and it was awesome. And then I'm like, and working with my management team, I'm like, all right, well, we gotta like we're at a really big peak right now like how can we do something big and out something going on, move the brand forward? And I came up with a girl version of the show and I was like, okay, like cause I want to, I wanted to have things fresh and uh, like fresh and different, right when a girl took over and went on a date with a different guy in every state. I'm like, okay, that keep, and then I would be a host of the show. And so we started that process, announced that version had girls apply to be the new star. We picked a girl uh, she was from Minnesota, actually picked a girl to be the star and uh, to be the star. And, uh, we, we got season three then started with her and she, uh, she went on the first two dates of the season and then, unfortunately, um, I won't go too crazy into details, but unfortunately there was a, a bad uh breakup, uh behind the scenes, with me and my uh, former management team and which really like, caused a lot of issues into the girl version and all that stuff. And so from there it was just like, okay, well, this is going to take time to figure things out with this and this, and so between all the logistics of it, and so unfortunately things didn't really work out with her, but I still kept that version alive in my head. I'm like, okay, well, I still. I still kept that version alive in my head. I'm like, okay, well, I'm still going to do that version Once this stuff gets wrapped up. You know, if it's not with her, that's okay, I'll do it with someone else whatever.
Speaker 2:But then logistically, you know the the really tough thing that I learned with doing with her in the short time that we did to involve somebody else in the season there's a handful of things. One, it's I'm basically putting my brand on the back of them. It's like they are the new face and I obviously do my research and I interview them and all that stuff. But there's that side of it. Two, it's a lot more of micromanaging. A lot more of micromanaging. Let's say, you're going to be the new guy, bachelor of it and you're. You live here in Minnesota, but I live in Florida, I have to constantly be communicating with you, be like, hey, can you make this video, can you make this video, can you make this video to post on the 50 day, 50 States, channels and stuff, and so it's a it's very difficult to try and like micromanage and kind of chase the tail on being like, hey, make this video, do this. Like telling them to do these things, versus I can just pick up my phone and make a video, yeah, and I can just do it. And so that's a really difficult thing too.
Speaker 2:And so, with season three that I just announced, I'm like you know what, like I've had three years off the road now.
Speaker 2:I've done, uh, a lot of different like side endeavors and kind of side question, uh, quests and collaborations, and I'm like you know what I got to get back on the road and do something different, fun and unique. And so, to change it, I decided to come up with this new heart format. Uh, that I think is, oh, I think it's so good and so genius, but basically, uh, every date I go on this season, they'll get a heart and their heart will have a state on it. It'll be like kind of this wood red heart and, yeah, it'll have their state on it. And at the end of every date I go on, they have to give me their heart and then I have to decide if I'm going to take it or break it. And I can only keep five hearts out of all 50 dates I go on and then those top five will join me for a finale. But I think it's gonna just crush it. I think it's just gonna crush it because it adds this elimination factor which I've never had. It's like gamifying it yes, yeah it's.
Speaker 2:It's kind of, yeah, gamifying it a little, and and you have to do it right in front of their face, no, no, thank goodness that as much, as much as I, as much as that would be good for viewership side. I'm just like dude, I can't do that. I would be devastating, but from a viewership side.
Speaker 3:I'm just like dude, I can't do that Devastating.
Speaker 2:It would be devastating. But from a viewership side, imagine watching the show and you're watching a girl from Louisiana and you're like man, this gal is such a cute gal, she's such a sweetheart, she's so nice, she's showing them a good time, she's enthusiastic, bubbly, and then I break her heart at the end. The good time she's enthusiastic, bubbly, and then I break her heart at the end. The viewer's gonna be like this asshole, what the like. She was great, what the hell you know. And then if I keep another girl's heart, that's like maybe not as bubbly, they're like this dude, he's got bad tape, but like it. It just opens up this door of opinions from everyone and like they're just like, oh, how could he keep her heart and break hers. And it just adds this gamifying elimination element that I think will be really, really captivating to an audience. So I'm really excited to introduce that into the new season.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's going to be awesome, that's going to be really cool, that's a good idea. So the whole premise is that you can only keep five at one time. I can only keep five out of all 50 dates.
Speaker 2:I go on, so can you go all 50 dates.
Speaker 1:I go on. So can you go all 50, not break, and then at the end be like all right, break, break, break break break no, no, no no, how are you going to do it?
Speaker 2:So basically in like the five I got to think is like a very valuable kind of like safe almost. But let's say I've kept five hearts and I still have 20 more dates to go on. I could then start breaking girls hearts I've previously kept with new dates. I go on. So basically no girl is safe until the end of the five hearts that are kept, and then those five will join me for a finale and then I'll pick my winner. Um, but yeah, so that's that's the fun thing about it is like even if your heart's kept, like if I keep uh, idaho's heart in state number three, she, her heart could get break by state 25.
Speaker 3:You just like you don't know until the very end. So some of them, you're just gonna have to be ruthless, just yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:And some like it'll be easy. Of course, you know it'll just be like all right, like and, and when I make a video of me, break it, because I'll make videos of me breaking down why I break the heart and everything, or like kind of like a heart ceremony, kind of like a bachelor of roses, but I'll just be like I'll give a recap on our date, how I thought it went, and then I'll basically just be like or or keep it, you know, but it's but the. The beauty of that too, though, is that the girl will see it for the first time just like any other viewer, and so like she's not gonna she's not gonna like get a heads up like she's gonna see it just like you guys would be able to see it for the first time.
Speaker 2:So it's like, yeah, it's so I love it, dude, thank you.
Speaker 2:I'm so jacked about it because I just think, I think it's so. It really hones in on like, yeah, state pride and people sharing their opinions on these certain girls, and, and it adds this elimination element that I think just has lacked in previous seasons. You know, like I haven't I never had. You know, in the previous seasons I never had an elimination besides my top five on good morning America and then I picked my winning date on there. But like, at the end, if you go on 50 dates and you're just going on a date in every state and there's nothing like no outcome to them, it's kind of just like, oh, geez, like that's a lot of dates to go on, and so I mean it's yes, it's a fascinating concept and it's cool to do the things I do, but I think adding this is like oh, there's an outcome to each date. Is he going to take their heart or break it? So I think I'm jacked for it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, absolutely. I mean, it adds so much to the show itself. It brings me into one thing that I was wondering and I'm not looking for any names here, but I'm sure have you ever had a date where you're in the middle of it like god, this just fucking sucks?
Speaker 2:yes, oh yeah, of course, of course you don't going on 100 dates in two seasons. There's definitely a couple of those, um, but I guess, like I always try to power through the best I can, you have to be professional, yeah, but like there are some where it's just like, oh my gosh, like this is going terrible the first couple hours and I still have four or five hours with this chick. It it's just like, oh my gosh, this is brutal and that's very few. I feel like out of all my dates I've lucked out and I've had a lot more good apples than bad apples. But yeah, there are some where it feels like it's a grinder, we just don't mesh well, or it's like talking to a brick wall, or things are awkward. So there's been a couple.
Speaker 1:But it hasn't been terrible. That's actually really surprising Cause I would think that as more 50, 50, really like more often now, like not only, I think, is it more common to have some social anxiety with someone that you've never met, but also just in general I think as a culture we're becoming like more and more introverted and a little bit harder to open up, especially in the context of like you're on like a show. When you're doing it, you know, but yeah, I guess that makes sense, yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 2:That's no, it's a great point, like I agree that I think people are getting like more introverted or like less social or a little bit more social anxiety and things like that. But I think a couple things with the dates I go on is one they have a good understanding of what they're signing up for or what they're doing. So it's like okay if there's a camera, if they're going to be on social media, whatever, like they have to be somewhat outgoing, or so. It always surprises me when a girl is a little bit more like and I totally like a lot of girls have been shy right away and they've opened up and I totally understand that. But it always throws me off if, like that stays the same way all day.
Speaker 2:I'm like why did you sign up for this? Like, if you're, if you're shy or you're awkward, like you this, you, this is not the right fit and clearly I picked, you know the wrong choice in that state or whatever. But um, yeah, so that's always a weird thing. One thing that throws me off is when girls this happens all the time when girls act different on camera versus off camera, yeah, that's always interesting where they're almost just kind of checked out when it's off.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah hey, yeah, yeah, or vice versa, where they're like trying to be too, they're trying to be liked too much on camera and trying to be perfect on camera, and then off camera they're their authentic self and like.
Speaker 2:They're way more relaxed, way more fun, way more easygoing and I'm like I like this version of you way more. Why aren't you acting like this on camera? But they're afraid to show like their true self or however you want to word it, cause they're afraid of being judged by their true personality or whatever it is, and they feel like they have to kind of I don't know perform in a way I guess you could say in front of the camera or be perfect, and to me it's just like, no, just like, be yourself, do your thing, um, so that's always a an interesting thing, because a lot of moments on my day it's like, once the cameras are off, we'll either go grab like late night drinks or we'll go hang out or whatever, and so then it's like you know, I get to know them a little bit more on that level and you know it's and that's always great.
Speaker 2:I always look forward to that. If, if that's the vibe, so you'll turn the. A lot of the time it'd be like okay, the date, like all of our date activities, all the things we had planned are wrapped up, or reservations are done like we've done everything that we had on our date itinerary, and then it's like all right, well, that was awesome. Like do you want to go like grab drinks? Or you want to go do this? Or just like, oh, sometimes it's like okay, well, like thanks for being part of this, see you later, um, but when we do go grab drinks and stuff, it's all.
Speaker 2:I love that because it's great to hear from their perspective always asking me like so what you thinking today? Like how would it feel to like have a camera in front of you and like be miked up and you know, like what, what was that like? And it's it's very cool to hear their reaction, whether, like they're like you know, I'm really nervous how it's gonna turn out or whether they like I thought it was so cool or whatever it is Like I love hearing. It's almost like feedback, you know, but it's just, it's cool Totally.
Speaker 1:So let's take it back to the end of season two. You do the finale on good morning America. I mean, that's like prime time television, this is. You're the centerpiece of this massive elaborate entertainment thing that's going on Like what is the afterglow like of being on good morning America?
Speaker 2:That dude. That was crazy, like I, you know, that was just a situation that I, you know, I didn't expect. But then they reached out towards the end of my season and they were just like we'd love to, you know, do some sort of thing with you in a finale. And so I worked with their producers and whatnot and went out there and uh, it was so cool, like they flew me and my five dates out there, got us all squared away in like this nice hotel in manhattan, right downtown new york city, and uh, you know it's, and we got all dressed up like all my dates are looking like dimes, you know, they're all looking dressed up. And then, uh, I guess it was my top four dates I'm sorry, my top four days, not my top five which was some drama. Drama, that was some drama because, oh, good morning America, shame on you guys. I appreciate you guys, but shame on you.
Speaker 2:They said, when we were setting everything up beforehand, they said that I could bring my top five dates out and I was like, okay, and I sent them who I picked for my top five and who that was going to be and all that stuff. And they were like, okay, sounds good, you top five and who that was going to be and all that stuff. And they were like, okay, it sounds good, you're good to reach out to them and explain these logistics. And I said, are you sure? Like we're good. They're like yes. And then I like triple checked with them and they're like, okay. So I reach out to all my dates, or my, my top five dates, and I tell them that they're going to be part of it. And uh, and then, good morning, america comes back to me like two days later and they're like hey, uh, hey, matt, actually like just talking to our like higher up execs and producers, we're only going to allow you to have your top three dates. And I'm like that's I'm like.
Speaker 2:I already told five of these girls that they're going to be coming to new york city and being on.
Speaker 2:Good morning america, like oh my god dude, I was so mad but I was like I couldn't be too mad, because it's not like I can just scream at Good Morning America. They were doing I will do anything to be on there, that's a huge thing for the brand, and so I'm just like but I was just like I have to stick up for my dates a little. And so I was like is there anything you guys can do? I already communicated this with five of my dates and they were kind of just like. They were like oh, just blame it on us.
Speaker 1:And I'm like, yeah, but this isn't like I'm like I. I was like you still gotta eliminate.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm like, I'm yeah, a lot easier said than done. And I'm just like, I'm like, can you just like, please go back to them and explain like that, like can we try to make something work, even, I mean, even if we could have four of them out of the five or something? And so they went back and luckily they told me I could have four out of the five, which made it a little less of a blow. But so I had to call. But it kind of made sense with the one that they and they told me which one I couldn't bring, which was kind of like whoa, but it kind of made sense because I had my Hawaii date in my top five and logistically, with her flight from Hawaii to New York, I mean it's like, and with the timeframe it was kind of tough. So I understood it would have been great to, you know, pick another girl to be part of it, but it didn't work that way.
Speaker 2:But yeah, so anyway, you know, had my top four out there and I thought we were just going to be like in studio, like you know, a newsroom, I just like that's what I thought. But then, like they just had this whole setup for us in the middle of time square like built for me and I'm like this, like I was, I lost my mind. I'm like this is crazy, how is? Yeah? I'm like I didn't expect this at all and like they didn't tell me that they were like oh yeah, we're gonna have like a set bill, like. But they did, I thought it was all in studio again. And then when we go out, when we we each had our dressing rooms, I like pull up to mine. It says like Matt Wernig on the door. I'm like, oh, this is sick. And then it had my dates. It said like dates of 50 dates, and right next to theirs was Serena Williams.
Speaker 3:I'm like oh my gosh.
Speaker 2:I'm like wow, this is like big time.
Speaker 3:This is cool, that's so cool.
Speaker 2:And they're probably looking at. You're like holy fuck, oh yeah, yeah, and this in like this big of an album. I'm like this is crazy, right and uh. So we get out of our dressing rooms and we, uh, we go out into like the time square area and this was nuts, this was crazy. They had like security blocking people and bike rack fencing and then all these like paparazzi just like taking flash photos and like the paparazzi don't know who we are, but they're. I just I don't know how paparazzi works. You know just a ton of photographers and it just like, and so I felt like insanely famous.
Speaker 2:I'm like you know, but but it was just so cool and uh, and so we like walk out on set and then there's all these people I mean it's new york city, the most populated city in the us like all these people are surrounding this area around this, like this, uh, the set and bike rack, fencing, and so they're all just staring and filming and I'm just like this is so, this is so cool. I was like a little kid in a candy store. I was just like so grateful and so appreciative and, um, so yeah, did my uh, you know, picked my winning date, cassidy from Illinois, and uh, then they gave us a good morning America, gave us two tickets to a Broadway show which was really cool and I'm not a theater guy and I don't run musicals, but the show we went to was so badass, it was so sick, it was so good. They integrated modern music and stuff, like we would all know, into the play and it was a good story, it was awesome.
Speaker 2:So we had a really good time there and so, yeah, that was kind of my good morning America experience, and I remember, when I flew out of New York, I stayed in New York for about a week because I had a handful of different press that whole week. And I remember when I left I was in the airport and I was in the airplane and I just started crying, dude, because I was so grateful and I just started crying, dude because I was so grateful.
Speaker 2:It was like I was just like. I am so happy that I got to experience that Because in season one when I ended I thought that I would have got that opportunity in season one. That's what I thought before I hit the road. I'm like man. I think if I really crush it this season I'll be able to be on like a big stage in national media. On season one I got on the biggest platform. I got on. I was on air with ryan seacrest like his radio show, which is badass. That's sick, um. But like I guess I just expected to get on a lot more bigger publications and media outlets in season one and I didn't. It was a lot more smaller, just news stations, local stuff, and so to end it on this huge stage in season two it made me feel like I fucking did it like it made me feel so good, I was just so grateful.
Speaker 2:Happy tears, happy tears.
Speaker 1:That's awesome. I can't imagine what that, what that come down, has got to feel like. Did you ever have a thought like what now? Like was there, like how am I gonna top this feeling?
Speaker 2:um, I I guess I like had a vision for—my goal and dream to this day is to get 50 Day to the States to be a TV show or some sort of a show on Netflix or Hulu or HBO or either streaming service or network of some sort. So after Good Morning America, a ton of different producers reached out to me, including the people from the Bachelor, which was Warner Brothers which is awesome, warner Bros Everybody knows who Warner Brothers is and they reached out to me and so I was working with them for a while there on making 50 Day City States, a show which also took a little bit of time. From how I said, I was off the road for three years between season two and season three. I was working with Warner Bros a handful of that time on this possible series, but then, unfortunately, the good old Hollywood strike happened. Oh, no.
Speaker 2:And all of Hollywood shut down and a strike hasn't happened in Hollywood in like 50 years or 60 years. And I'm just like why? I'm like, are you kidding me when I'm close to having a moment? Because, uh, and all the work we were doing, with all the work I was doing with them, uh, they had to. Uh, the guy I was working with he had to show it to their higher up execs and they had to greenlight it and they did. And so we're like, oh my gosh, like it's happening, like this is this is my moment, right, and or this is the brand's moment, because I wasn't going to be the star of the show, which I'm okay with. I don't need to be a star, I just want my brand to be up there. And so I'm like this is it. But then the hollywood strike happened, literally like a couple weeks later.
Speaker 2:Oh my god and it just like shut everything down for, like I think it was like three or four months and a ton of people within warner brothers got laid off and it was just like. So it kind of came to Crash and Burn, which sucked. But for me I have a never-give-up mentality and I have kind of a relentless pursuit with my brand of 50 Days to the States, and so I'm like you know what It'll work out when it's supposed to.
Speaker 1:Totally, and so I've got to keep continuing the brand somehow. I'm a firm believer in that. Everything happens for a reason, as cliche as that sounds. I think that there is a route where, especially with the concept that you have for season three, that there's a route that staying independently produced is definitely more leverage for you, Not only to do what you want to do, but run it how you want to run it and do it the way that you want to do it, but get more fulfillment out of it. I think 100%.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and that's one thing I learned about working with producers and Warner Bros. Yeah, and that's one thing I learned about working with producers and Warner Bros Is for people to get TV shows, there's so many things that have to happen and the stars have to align in so many different areas for people to get shows, with production and casting and time frames and budgets and agents and all these things, it's just like holy cow. There's so much that goes into it, and so for me, it's like you, what when it happens? It happens, like you said, everything happens for a reason and timing is everything. And so, uh, for me you know, I'm hoping with this new season, in this new format it catches the eye of someone you know, uh, whether that's a warner brothers, uh, producer again, or somebody else, and they're just like oh wow, here we go. What is this? We want this to be on hulu, we want this to be on an amazon prime show, whatever it is.
Speaker 1:You know, we see a lot of creators getting amazon prime deals right now and just like youtube channels that are episodic getting more amazon prime deals, and I think that that's not crazy to think yeah no, I, I don't think you're right there yeah, I think like there's a concept to it.
Speaker 2:It's like yeah, I believe in it, so much. Uh, before we continue, can I use the restroom absolutely?
Speaker 1:absolutely great time for bathroom bake okay, one thing that I did want to ask you aside from like the fuel cost, what do you think your biggest expense was throughout all of season one and season two?
Speaker 2:that's a good question, because you're constantly spending money All the time Gas dates, hotels, food You're constantly spending money on those things and then plus, if anything, just random little things like pay tolls or oil changes and things like that Probably hotels. I'd probably say hotels is probably the especially season. Uh, season two, because I it was two separate hotels between me and my cameraman and or two separate hotel rooms oh damn my cameraman.
Speaker 2:So that's like double the double the price there in season one. Oh my gosh, shout out my new mexico date. Bell, love you for this. She, uh, she worked at marriott and she put me down as like her brother and so I got the friends and family discount. So I was getting 50 marriott hotel hotels. Oh that's bad which marriott's are fucking nice and so I'm getting 50 hotel rooms at places. It's like that's so amazing, like that saved me so much money it was like a weird kind of a thing, but no, it was.
Speaker 2:It was so clutch that, like you know, she just happened to work for marion. She offered it. She was just like hey, like I know you're gonna be traveling everywhere, like I'm more than happy to like put you down as like a family member so you get, I'm like that's so clutch. So yeah, she had to like send you down as like a family member.
Speaker 2:I'm like that's so clutch, so yeah, she had to like send me this form every like a month, and then I'd have to show that when I checked in and like, oh yeah, it was, it was so clutch.
Speaker 3:It was awesome.
Speaker 2:That's badass, yeah, but it wasn't that but that wasn't the case in season two. So those hotel rooms, oh, Bill about that deal we had worked out Right yeah, I don't think she worked at Marriott anymore, or else she probably would have still done it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, do you try to cut costs wherever you can, or you just say like fuck it, it is what it is.
Speaker 2:Well, I definitely. It's not like I am just rolling in the dough and I'm like oh yeah, I can do it, I can spend it on anything, nothing like that.
Speaker 2:But I don't want to also be like a stingy motherfucker, like I don't want to like a lot of the things. I look at from an experience side, it's like, okay, is this worth the experience, is this worth it for content? Like, is it worth it for a viewership for what I'm doing, is it something that I'd want to do, type thing. And so then I'll just kind of be like screw it, like whatever it's, and and also like I'm kind of bad with money. This way is I just like I think you know you'll get the money back somehow? It's like you know, that's how I kind of operate things.
Speaker 2:Like I think, if you stress about money constantly, or I'm like, oh my God, like people who are so stingy and tight, and it's like, oh no, I can't get this dessert that's $11 at dinner. And I understand if you're like in a tight budget or like you know you have a lot of expenses or kids or whatever. It is Like I totally understand that and I'm not saying everybody should splurge, but for me, in my position, what I'm doing, it's like, oh yeah, if there's, like this chocolate cake that comes with crazy sparklers in it and it would look good on camera with me and my date Fuck it, like I would never bat an eye at something like that, you know, or things like that, and so, yeah, I'm pretty easy going with that kind of stuff, but I never like hunt out. I grew up small town kin Montana.
Speaker 1:So a nice hotel room to me. Somebody else could be like ew, I'm super easy going.
Speaker 2:I could care less A lot of the times I'm in certain places. So, yeah, it just kind of depends. But I'm definitely not trying to be like a big baller and be like let's do this crazy thing. For example, a lot of my dates have or not a lot, but a couple of them have wanted to go skydiving and looking at the uh, skydiving prices in places, it's like Jesus, like I don't want to spend a thousand dollars for me and you to go skydiving and like I'd rather do multiple fun things that added up to like $500, you know, versus in, like then that's half the price versus just doing one big thing. That's a huge, you know check. And it's like Jesus, okay, a thousand bucks to do this. So like those are things I've steered away from. You know, if it's just like one big thing, that's a lot of money versus doing a lot more things for content.
Speaker 1:So yeah, it just kind of depends A hundred percent. No, that makes sense. When you say you had a different hotel, you and your filmer like is that? Uh, why is that? It's not like in my head. I'm thinking, like, if it's the homie, like we're just sleeping in two queen beds. Yeah, worst case, ontario, we're sharing a king bed, sure, sure uh well, there's a couple couple reasons.
Speaker 2:One uh what one, uh, you know. So my cameraman, john love, loved my cameraman. Uh, he was. How old was he? On the road I think he was like 35 maybe and he was married and had kids and everything and his family's used to him being away from home because he was in the military or in the army and so obviously being involved with that. So him talking to his wife and kids, it gives him a sense of privacy, uh, with you know, facetime and them at night, things like that. And him like also on the more of the production side, with like charging things and using outlets in the hotel room, like it would look like this in his hotel room, right, like in the sense of putting battery packs and charging cameras and all these different things right, and so just kind of having his own space and domain and then me having mine and whatnot of like doing what I need to do for work and getting things repaired and making calls and planning things for dates and doing stuff like that.
Speaker 2:So it was nice on like the work side of things, on the pleasure side of things, on the business and pleasure side you know it obviously is nice if a date and I, you know, we had a nightcap and we went to a couple bars after our date or something, and then, you know, we uh, uh, respectfully made our way back to the hotel. You know it was, it was nice to not have, I was wondering that.
Speaker 1:I didn't want to say, but I was wondering it was.
Speaker 2:It was nice to not have good old john on the bed you know it was john, you gotta get out.
Speaker 3:John, please just go to the lobby for a sec.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2:No, so that was, we're back, yeah so that was a nice, like you know little thing for for privacy and whatnot, no, that makes a lot more sense when you kind of spell it out like how long for season two were you on the road?
Speaker 3:was it all at one time? Did you break it into sections?
Speaker 2:uh, no, it was all at one time. It was from February. My first date was February 21st, I think February 21st, and then ended oh God, was it August? Like beginning of August, and so like four or five months, whatever that is on the road, February, March, April, May, June, July. Oh, I guess like yeah, but it was not six months, it was about five months on July. Oh, I guess like yeah, but it was not six months, it was about five months on the yeah, I mean end of February. So about five months on the road, Wow.
Speaker 3:That's a lot of time to be bunked up with the guys.
Speaker 2:Yes, and that's another thing too. It's just like also having space. You know, like if you're with someone all the time 24-7, there's going to kind of get annoyed or a little tendencies and shit like that. And me and him traveling all over together, you know, road trip after road trip after road trip, and him like I feel so bad for him, I could never do what he does, so like kudos to him because he had to listen to these like not the same conversation but me repeat myself about 48 times Cause he unfortunately he didn't come with me to Hawaii and Alaska, um, but the lower 48 he did, and so when he was with me at those he had to listen to me say, you know, when a girl's like, oh, so what did you do before this? He had to listen to my response 48 times.
Speaker 2:He had to listen to the same thing and he's just, oh, I could, I'd be, I'd be so aggravated, so that and road trips and getting checked in places and everything. But he was such a great cameraman because me and him bonded a lot when it came to just our morals and values and being respectful to people and character. And also one thing that's a big deal. That doesn't maybe seem like a big deal, but when you're with someone on the road for that long, music taste is a huge thing. And so when we're in the car and he's playing music on his phone or I'm playing music on my phone, we like meshed music wise, because if he like loved heavy metal, I would have. I would have jumped off a bridge like that would have been terrible if you were just like dude. Have you heard of this band? For?
Speaker 1:five months yeah I'm just like this is awful.
Speaker 3:Like it was, like it would have been terrible, so lucky, I'm a people pleaser, so I'd pretend I liked it.
Speaker 2:I'd be like, yeah, that's same same, and inside I would have just been pure torture, like oh and so I'm really glad we just meshed in a lot of those ways, which was which was really good did you?
Speaker 1:how did you guys pass it on? Were you listening to music most of the time? Are you throwing on podcasts? Are you throwing on audiobooks, like what? What is the car rides like? Are you? Are you talking?
Speaker 2:yeah, it was. It was a little. It was kind of everything it would be. It would just kind of depend because a lot of the thing I would try to work he kudos to john again. He usually drove everywhere like we.
Speaker 2:We would switch off if it was really long road trips and stuff, but uh, he usually was the guy driving because I would be working, I'd be working, my editor, who would edit my youtube date episodes, would send over you know kind of the first draft or whatever, and then I would go through and I'd watch it all and make edits to it and then send it back to him.
Speaker 2:But like, that takes a lot of time to watch, you know a 30, 40 minute episode, or then, when he would send it to me, it'd be like a 50 minute, 55 minute episode for me to watch all that and make edits, him send it to him, then him send it back, like so I was doing that, answering emails, talking with management. I was working a lot when he was driving. It was a nice way for me to get caught up. But when I was caught up on things or just planned things for dates, like if I had calls with girls, things like that, so that was a really nice way for me to get caught up on things and work. If we were just if I didn't have a lot of work to do or I was caught up on things. Yeah, me and him just vibing to music. Yeah, me and him just vibing to music.
Speaker 2:We both loved country music and, like rascal flats, we both loved rascal flats some old school country you know or like I don't know how old school you would call that, but um. So we both liked country music in that way um and uh and then like conversations. We'd always have really stellar conversation like he. It would be so funny because he'd be like so you went out for drinks last night, did she go home, leaving your room this morning?
Speaker 2:or did she, you know, or whatever so like we'd always just like kind of bro out and talk about like those things he still likes the locker room.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, it was locker room talk for sure, and so it was, and he'd always share, like, his opinions, I think. So what did you think of her? Or whatever, and he'd like give me his two cents. And then always it was just great like, and one of the number one things I loved. Uh, I looked forward to this every time.
Speaker 2:But when we were on the, he would meet my dates first because he would do like a little introduction with them and like they would say, hi, I'm Kaya and I'm from Vermont and, like you know, I'm a nurse and I do that. You know, whatever it is they do, he do a little intro with them and then he'd be like, all right, are you ready to go meet Matt? And they'd be like, yep, and then he'd film us meeting for the first time. But he would always have the first interaction with them and he'd film it, whether it was at their place, wherever we were meeting them, right, and uh, then he would call me and he'd say, hey, matt, you're good to come down or come out or wherever, and but when he would do that, he would always tell me what his first impression was, and so he'd kind of like scoot away from him, and he'd be like dude, this chick, you're going to like her, or he'd be like dude, you might be on your toes with this one.
Speaker 2:And that scares me, though. I'm like what the hell? So then I'm like thinking of this before I meet this girl. I'm like, oh no, I remember one girl. He told me I won't say what state, I'll be respectful, but he. But he said and I was sweating bullets after he said this he was like dude. I think this girl is mentally unwell and I was like what does?
Speaker 2:that even mean I'm like what is going on and so I that made me so nervous going into it and that wasn't the best date, but uh, he, so he was accurate with his thought process. But no, it was great, it's great.
Speaker 3:Uh, that's so funny so we already established that you're from montana, from a very small town. So I'm sure your parents, when you first started making these videos, they were kind of trying to figure out what's going on. Was there a specific moment where your parents were like, oh my god, dude, this is insane.
Speaker 2:Like congratulations, yeah, I think, uh, when I was doing them virtually, they just like thought they're like, oh, this is kind of fun thing Matt's doing and whatnot.
Speaker 2:And then when I told them that I was going to quit my full time job to go travel the US and date women, they were like no, you're not.
Speaker 2:And so they were really really on the fence about that and really hesitant and had a lot of pushback, as any parent would you know, just worrying, and it was 2021. A lot of pushback, as any parent would you know, just worrying, and it was 2021. So, like saying, the word travel, you know, during the COVID time, was like a you know kind of a trigger word and so they were just like really worried as parents about how I was going to afford it and in my safety and with COVID being around, and and how I was going to logistically do all these things. But once I started answering all the questions they had and they saw that I was prepared, like I wasn't just like, oh, I'm going to do this, and I had no idea, like once they saw how serious I was taking it, then I think that relaxed them a little bit. But I remember, you know, for a while I was, like, really disappointed of the reaction of some of my closest friends and family when I told them I'd be hitting the road.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Because I thought my closest group of people would be, like, my biggest supporters, but they were some of the ones that had the biggest pushback and like, oh, why are you doing this? Or what are you like, what are you going to do about money? And like they just didn't see. Uh, you know what I saw. And it took me a couple of years to mature past that. And and then I just had like a self-reflection one day, and it's a learning moment, though, that I can't blame someone for not seeing the vision I see.
Speaker 2:You know, like, and that's okay Like if I tell you guys something I want to accomplish or do, and you guys are just like, okay, like you know, obviously there's one thing between being a hater, you know, and just like maybe not seeing it through, but I can't blame you guys for not seeing what I.
Speaker 2:I see, you know it's from my point of view, it's from my perspective, what's in my head. And so it took me a couple of years to like really mature and like kind of I guess I don't say I don't want to say forgive, but just like, look past that and not think of it as like a bad thing. Um and so, yeah, were they were hesitant in the beginning, for sure, but then, like now they really they love, like living vicariously through my content and hearing updates, and like and telling family or friends or neighbors or little things, like they had someone come do the gutters on their house. And uh and uh, they asked what their kids do and uh, I have a sister. And they were like, oh well, our daughter, she works for the Special Olympics in Minnesota and our son, he's kind of an internet personality, and they're like oh well, what's he doing?
Speaker 2:They're like oh he travels and dates women and then they're like wait, what's his name or what's he doing? They're like, oh, it's called 50 Dates, 50 States and they're like, no way, that's your son and so for them They've had little interactions with that, randomly.
Speaker 3:Oh, I'm sure at the grocery store they're like oh, I saw little Matthew on TikTok, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:And so it's fun for them to have some entertainment added to their life with it, and so I love it.
Speaker 3:Dude, that's the thing On a much smaller scale with us. When I first started with OnTap, my dad was like what the fuck is this? And he had one fucking friend tell him like hey, I heard your son on that. That was really cool. Entire mindset changed. Right, yeah, yeah, he's like this thing's really working, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Dude, that's so funny that you say it. It really just takes maybe a random person to shift their mentality. That happened exactly with my dad, because my dad's know old-time farmer, like 70 years old, he does not know, like he still doesn't really know what I do, how, like, how it works. But uh, um, I remember he was in a barber shop one time and he was to and it was the same barber I would go to in montana, me, and it went to the same barber and uh, he was talking with the barber and uh, the barber austin, he was like, oh so how's matt doing? And my dad was telling him or whatever. And uh, then the guy sitting in the chair there waiting for his haircut, he goes 50 days, 50 states, like I've heard of that, that's your son and my dad had the exact same thing like your dad.
Speaker 2:He like was like man, this could really be something he might be on to something here, you know so it's crazy how people just like another person's opinion can shift that, that is hilarious, well shoot.
Speaker 1:What do you think? Should we wrap this thing up?
Speaker 3:yeah, you know I do have one more thing I want to ask you before we wrap this up sure because there's a lot of guys, including myself, that haven't been on a lot of dates. We don't know how to plan the perfect date. Do you have an advice for guys just looking to take a girl on a special date? Make them them feel good about themselves?
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know, I think for me, um, I think there's a lot of things you got to avoid on a first date, like dinner dates and movies. Like you could mix in a dinner and that's no problem, but do some sort of an activity tied to it. Like I think mini golf or like go into a sporting event is perfect because there's something to take a little bit of pressure off of just a one-on-one conversation and you can like, if you're mini golfing, you can make a fun little bet or have a little bit of friendly competition and talk about that or like banter with that, along with having a conversation right. Or if you're at a sporting event, you could be cheering for someone or doing something while like having a little bit of small talk here and there. Um, and so I think doing things to get it off of just the one-on-one focus is good.
Speaker 2:I do, I I love getting drinks with people, whether that's like you know before or maybe it's just a simple date and that's what you do is the full thing. But like drinks relax people. It really does. Like I've been on plenty of dates with girls where they've taken shots before we go on a date because they just like to calm their nerves about going on the date, and it's just like.
Speaker 2:I mean it's everybody reacts differently to going on dates or if they get nervous or anxious and whatnot. But I think for me, what relaxes me about going on dates and I think I would give this advice to any guy is just like we're all people. We are all people and we're not that different, like we really aren't. Like we all like to enjoy a good meal, we all like to laugh, we all like to smile, we like to listen to a good song, you know, and some people mesh better than others. But I think, like I don't think there's any reason to get discouraged if something doesn't work on a date either.
Speaker 2:Like there are a million girls out there that look at me and they're like, ew, gross. But there's also probably a million girls out there that are like, damn, he's good looking. There's so many people in this world and there's so many fish in the sea. You can't take things to heart and it's just like, oh, everybody kind of has their own personal persona and so, yeah, I just think making girls comfortable, being yourself and just being you you I think is is a huge thing. And, again, like not trying to just relax when you're on a date. Just, I know it's easier said than done. But, yeah, just go into things easy and, yeah, do your thing I love it, dude.
Speaker 3:Wow, matt. Thank you so much for coming on and for our listeners. If you're not tuning in for season three, what the fuck are you doing?
Speaker 2:yeah, what the hell? Yeah, like follow, subscribe, do all the good jazz.
Speaker 1:Season three we'll tag we'll tag all his socials in the description, so go follow him, matt. Is there anything you want to plug before we leave out of here?
Speaker 2:no, no, I appreciate you boys having me on. It's been, it's been good, chatting and socializing and, uh, talking away solving the world's problems you know about dates, love, travel, everything in between. And yeah, if you, uh, if you're listening, go check out season three. It's gonna be, it's gonna be quite the wild ride. It's gonna be a lot of fun so I'm excited to hit the road. See you later, matt. Hey, thanks, fellas.
