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If"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1042.19,"endTime":1046.03,"body":"you are ghettoized, chances of"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1046.03,"endTime":1049.42,"body":"you being able to marry outside"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1046.03,"endTime":1049.42,"body":"of your religion are slim to"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1049.42,"endTime":1052.48,"body":"none, because religions are"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1049.42,"endTime":1052.48,"body":"racialized."},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1052.51,"endTime":1052.9,"body":"Yeah."},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1052.9,"endTime":1054.4,"body":"So,"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1052.9,"endTime":1054.4,"body":"there's a lot of comparison to"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1054.4,"endTime":1057.4,"body":"be done here. And if I think"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1054.4,"endTime":1057.4,"body":"about it, I did not put it in"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1057.4,"endTime":1059.95,"body":"homework, but I can throw it on"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1057.4,"endTime":1059.95,"body":"the show notes when I make the"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1059.95,"endTime":1061.15,"body":"web-- the webpage."},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1061.24,"endTime":1063.91,"body":"Okay, great! All"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1061.24,"endTime":1063.91,"body":"of this is to say that religious"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1063.91,"endTime":1066.58,"body":"belonging is complicated and"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1063.91,"endTime":1066.58,"body":"that Zoroastrianism, like all"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1066.58,"endTime":1069.85,"body":"religions, is internally"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1066.58,"endTime":1069.85,"body":"diverse. Not everybody agrees on"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1069.85,"endTime":1073.21,"body":"who counts, much like Flo and"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1069.85,"endTime":1073.21,"body":"her bacon cheeseburgers."},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1073.21,"endTime":1073.27,"body":"Mhm!"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1073.84,"endTime":1075.79,"body":"And on that note,"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1073.84,"endTime":1075.79,"body":"let's hear from our guest"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1075.79,"endTime":1078.76,"body":"expert, Kainaz Amaria, about"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1075.79,"endTime":1078.76,"body":"what makes this tradition unique"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1079.03,"endTime":1082.69,"body":"and how contemporary"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1079.03,"endTime":1082.69,"body":"Zoroastrians are... doing it?"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1083.41,"endTime":1084.67,"body":"Zoroastrianism, that is."},{"speaker":"Kainaz Amaria","startTime":1086.67,"endTime":1088.89,"body":"Hi, everyone."},{"speaker":"Kainaz Amaria","startTime":1086.67,"endTime":1088.89,"body":"Thanks for having me! I'm"},{"speaker":"Kainaz Amaria","startTime":1088.92,"endTime":1097.02,"body":"Kainaz. I am a Visuals Editor at"},{"speaker":"Kainaz Amaria","startTime":1088.92,"endTime":1097.02,"body":"vox.com, and my background is in"},{"speaker":"Kainaz Amaria","startTime":1097.02,"endTime":1101.55,"body":"photojournalism. I studied"},{"speaker":"Kainaz Amaria","startTime":1097.02,"endTime":1101.55,"body":"photojournalism and now run a"},{"speaker":"Kainaz Amaria","startTime":1101.55,"endTime":1107.1,"body":"team, a small team of visual"},{"speaker":"Kainaz Amaria","startTime":1101.55,"endTime":1107.1,"body":"people for a news site. So,"},{"speaker":"Kainaz Amaria","startTime":1107.1,"endTime":1111.24,"body":"that's just a little bit about"},{"speaker":"Kainaz Amaria","startTime":1107.1,"endTime":1111.24,"body":"me and what I do now. It's"},{"speaker":"Kainaz Amaria","startTime":1111.24,"endTime":1114.75,"body":"relevant because, for the"},{"speaker":"Kainaz Amaria","startTime":1111.24,"endTime":1114.75,"body":"longest time, becoming a"},{"speaker":"Kainaz Amaria","startTime":1114.75,"endTime":1118.02,"body":"journalist meant that I was"},{"speaker":"Kainaz Amaria","startTime":1114.75,"endTime":1118.02,"body":"telling other people's stories,"},{"speaker":"Kainaz Amaria","startTime":1118.02,"endTime":1121.53,"body":"and that's what I loved. I loved"},{"speaker":"Kainaz Amaria","startTime":1118.02,"endTime":1121.53,"body":"walking into places and asking"},{"speaker":"Kainaz Amaria","startTime":1121.53,"endTime":1126.63,"body":"people questions, and"},{"speaker":"Kainaz Amaria","startTime":1121.53,"endTime":1126.63,"body":"understanding where they find"},{"speaker":"Kainaz Amaria","startTime":1126.63,"endTime":1132.42,"body":"belonging. And then I realized,"},{"speaker":"Kainaz Amaria","startTime":1126.63,"endTime":1132.42,"body":"for a long time, I didn't quite"},{"speaker":"Kainaz Amaria","startTime":1132.42,"endTime":1138.12,"body":"understand where I belonged, and"},{"speaker":"Kainaz Amaria","startTime":1132.42,"endTime":1138.12,"body":"that's when I went to India to"},{"speaker":"Kainaz Amaria","startTime":1138.12,"endTime":1141.3,"body":"do a project on the Parsi"},{"speaker":"Kainaz Amaria","startTime":1138.12,"endTime":1141.3,"body":"community because I was born"},{"speaker":"Kainaz Amaria","startTime":1141.3,"endTime":1147.15,"body":"into the community in Bombay. My"},{"speaker":"Kainaz Amaria","startTime":1141.3,"endTime":1147.15,"body":"mother and father are both"},{"speaker":"Kainaz Amaria","startTime":1147.15,"endTime":1151.95,"body":"Parsis. My mother belongs to a"},{"speaker":"Kainaz Amaria","startTime":1147.15,"endTime":1151.95,"body":"priest family, so her father was"},{"speaker":"Kainaz Amaria","startTime":1151.95,"endTime":1161.28,"body":"a prominent priest in India. 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I think you'll find"},{"speaker":"is called \"Zoroastrianism","startTime":2567.78,"endTime":2570.84,"body":"\"Zoroastrianism: A Guide for the"},{"speaker":"is called \"Zoroastrianism","startTime":2570.84,"endTime":2573.21,"body":"Perplexed\" in more public"},{"speaker":"is called \"Zoroastrianism","startTime":2570.84,"endTime":2573.21,"body":"libraries, Barnes and Noble-type"},{"speaker":"is called \"Zoroastrianism","startTime":2573.75,"endTime":2574.35,"body":"places."},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":2574.41,"endTime":2574.89,"body":"That sounds..."},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":2574.41,"endTime":2574.89,"body":"yeah."},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":2574.92,"endTime":2578.52,"body":"But"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":2574.92,"endTime":2578.52,"body":"the piece of Jenny Rose's work"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":2578.52,"endTime":2583.14,"body":"that I like a lot is called \"The"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":2578.52,"endTime":2583.14,"body":"Image of Zoroaster: The Persian"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":2583.23,"endTime":2587.46,"body":"Mage Through European Eyes,\""},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":2583.23,"endTime":2587.46,"body":"because it actually shows you"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":2587.46,"endTime":2592.59,"body":"how Zoroastrianism and Zoroaster"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":2587.46,"endTime":2592.59,"body":"himself gets shaped through"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":2592.59,"endTime":2593.43,"body":"colonialism."},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":2593.61,"endTime":2595.38,"body":"Cool! And you"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":2593.61,"endTime":2595.38,"body":"know I love a mage!"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":2595.0,"endTime":2598.57,"body":"I"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":2595.0,"endTime":2598.57,"body":"know! Alright, so moving into"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":2598.57,"endTime":2602.14,"body":"something else-- for young adult"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":2598.57,"endTime":2602.14,"body":"fiction, with a dash of angst"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":2602.14,"endTime":2604.75,"body":"about belonging, queerness, and"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":2602.14,"endTime":2604.75,"body":"the background noise of being"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":2604.75,"endTime":2609.04,"body":"Zoroastrian, I high recommend"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":2604.75,"endTime":2609.04,"body":"\"Darius the Great Is Not Okay\""},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":2609.04,"endTime":2612.49,"body":"by Adib Khorram and its sequel,"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":2609.04,"endTime":2612.49,"body":"\"Darius the Great Deserves"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":2612.49,"endTime":2616.42,"body":"Better.\" Super queer, super fun,"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":2612.49,"endTime":2616.42,"body":"all about identity. High"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":2616.42,"endTime":2618.61,"body":"recommend. You'll-- listeners,"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":2616.42,"endTime":2618.61,"body":"you'll probably read it in,"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":2618.61,"endTime":2619.51,"body":"like, a day."},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":2619.78,"endTime":2621.1,"body":"Yeah, but it's"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":2619.78,"endTime":2621.1,"body":"lovely."},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":2621.67,"endTime":2623.53,"body":"And,"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":2621.67,"endTime":2623.53,"body":"uh, as I've said many a time, my"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":2623.53,"endTime":2627.67,"body":"favorite Parsi remains Freddie"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":2623.53,"endTime":2627.67,"body":"Mercury, aka Farrokh Bulsara,"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":2628.18,"endTime":2631.33,"body":"whose own life of Parsi-Indian"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":2628.18,"endTime":2631.33,"body":"descent born in Zanzibar, who"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":2631.33,"endTime":2634.03,"body":"later anglicized his name for"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":2631.33,"endTime":2634.03,"body":"all the reasons-- look, it's"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":2634.03,"endTime":2636.52,"body":"great! It shows the colonialism"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":2634.03,"endTime":2636.52,"body":"and violence inherent in a"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":2636.52,"endTime":2640.75,"body":"system. So you should go listen"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":2636.52,"endTime":2640.75,"body":"to Queen wherever you get music!"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":2640.75,"endTime":2644.56,"body":"And since no one consumes albums"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":2640.75,"endTime":2644.56,"body":"as holes anymore, I say as some"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":2644.56,"endTime":2647.89,"body":"sort of elder millennial, you"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":2644.56,"endTime":2647.89,"body":"could just listen on Spotify."},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":2647.89,"endTime":2651.07,"body":"But if you do listen to albums,"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":2647.89,"endTime":2651.07,"body":"my personal favorites are"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":2651.1,"endTime":2652.87,"body":"\"Queen,\" \"Jazz,\" and \"A Night at"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":2651.1,"endTime":2652.87,"body":"the Opera.\""},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":2653.59,"endTime":2654.13,"body":"Nice!"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":2654.93,"endTime":2656.19,"body":"BUT!"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":2654.93,"endTime":2656.19,"body":"Anyway, like we said, nerds,"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":2656.19,"endTime":2660.15,"body":"this is not necessarily either"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":2656.19,"endTime":2660.15,"body":"of our hardcore wheelhouse. So,"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":2660.15,"endTime":2663.45,"body":"if you are listening and want to"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":2660.15,"endTime":2663.45,"body":"tell us on Twitter or Instagram"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":2663.48,"endTime":2666.3,"body":"what else we should be reading,"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":2663.48,"endTime":2666.3,"body":"please do! This is exactly what"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":2666.3,"endTime":2667.98,"body":"we want and we'll add it to the"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":2666.3,"endTime":2667.98,"body":"shownotes."},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":2668.23,"endTime":2670.78,"body":"Yes. Please and"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":2668.23,"endTime":2670.78,"body":"thank you. Big thanks to those"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":2670.78,"endTime":2673.81,"body":"of you writing reviews on"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":2670.78,"endTime":2673.81,"body":"iTunes, Amazon and Google it"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":2673.81,"endTime":2676.45,"body":"really helps. And if you want to"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":2673.81,"endTime":2676.45,"body":"be Nerd of the Week, write us a"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":2676.45,"endTime":2679.06,"body":"review. That's how we see your"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":2676.45,"endTime":2679.06,"body":"silly handle, you sillies!"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":2679.6,"endTime":2682.24,"body":"Thanks to former guest, Dheepa"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":2679.6,"endTime":2682.24,"body":"Sundaram, who reviewed us, as"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":2682.24,"endTime":2685.15,"body":"well as Flo M., Ilyse's mom,"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":2682.24,"endTime":2685.15,"body":"reviewing us across all"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":2685.15,"endTime":2688.42,"body":"platforms. Way to saturate the"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":2685.15,"endTime":2688.42,"body":"market, Flo. Thank you!"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":2689.23,"endTime":2691.18,"body":"Join"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":2689.23,"endTime":2691.18,"body":"us next time for more HISTORY OF"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":2691.18,"endTime":2694.63,"body":"THE WORLD (RELIGIONS) PART 1,"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":2691.18,"endTime":2694.63,"body":"when we spend a night at the"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":2694.63,"endTime":2699.28,"body":"museum for applied learning fun"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":2694.63,"endTime":2699.28,"body":"with our bestie and consulting"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":2699.28,"endTime":2702.4,"body":"scholar at the National Museum"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":2699.28,"endTime":2702.4,"body":"of American History, Dr. Andrew"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":2702.43,"endTime":2706.33,"body":"Aghapour. Shoutout to research"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":2702.43,"endTime":2706.33,"body":"assistant Alex Castellano, whose"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":2706.33,"endTime":2709.0,"body":"transcription work makes this"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":2706.33,"endTime":2709.0,"body":"pod accessible and therefore"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":2709.0,"endTime":2712.39,"body":"awesome. If you need more"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":2709.0,"endTime":2712.39,"body":"religion nerderie, find us where"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":2712.39,"endTime":2715.57,"body":"you know we live-- Twitter."},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":2712.39,"endTime":2715.57,"body":"That's where we are."},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":2715.87,"endTime":2719.17,"body":"Twitterton."},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":2715.87,"endTime":2719.17,"body":"That's correct. You can find me"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":2719.17,"endTime":2724.57,"body":"on Twitter @mpgPhD, and Ilyse"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":2719.17,"endTime":2724.57,"body":"@ProfIRMF, or the show"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":2724.81,"endTime":2730.0,"body":"@keepingit_101. Find the website"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":2724.81,"endTime":2730.0,"body":"at keepingit101.com. Peep the"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":2730.0,"endTime":2732.34,"body":"Insta, if you wanna, and with"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":2730.0,"endTime":2732.34,"body":"that..."},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":2732.76,"endTime":2734.2,"body":"Peace"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":2732.76,"endTime":2734.2,"body":"out, nerds!"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":2734.29,"endTime":2736.18,"body":"Do your homework!"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":2734.29,"endTime":2736.18,"body":"It's on the syllabus."},{"speaker":"Bonus Ending","startTime":2782.65,"endTime":2787.39,"body":"Freddie Mercury,"},{"speaker":"Bonus Ending","startTime":2782.65,"endTime":2787.39,"body":"\"Alright!\""}]}