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You"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1026.34,"endTime":1027.15,"body":"wrote it."},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1027.15,"endTime":1031.11,"body":"*laughs*"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1027.15,"endTime":1031.11,"body":"Jews didn't start calling"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1031.11,"endTime":1033.06,"body":"themselves Jews, right?"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1033.06,"endTime":1033.12,"body":"Yeah."},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1033.12,"endTime":1034.26,"body":"Like"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1033.12,"endTime":1034.26,"body":"it's not a name we gave"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1034.26,"endTime":1038.31,"body":"ourselves. 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My"},{"speaker":"A Little Bit Leave It for today","startTime":1141.35,"endTime":1144.47,"body":"the real history is the religion"},{"speaker":"A Little Bit Leave It for today","startTime":1144.47,"endTime":1145.94,"body":"we made along the way? Question"},{"speaker":"A Little Bit Leave It for today","startTime":1144.47,"endTime":1145.94,"body":"mark?"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1145.94,"endTime":1145.97,"body":"*laughs*"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1148.67,"endTime":1149.69,"body":"That's it. That's"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1148.67,"endTime":1149.69,"body":"all I've got."},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1149.69,"endTime":1149.72,"body":"*laughs*"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1150.32,"endTime":1152.75,"body":"You can't you"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1150.32,"endTime":1152.75,"body":"can't think about history"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1152.75,"endTime":1156.59,"body":"without thinking about"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1152.75,"endTime":1156.59,"body":"religion... period, the end..."},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1156.89,"endTime":1157.64,"body":"thrice."},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1159.2,"endTime":1161.27,"body":"Alright,"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1159.2,"endTime":1161.27,"body":"well, you have been very good."},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1161.72,"endTime":1161.9,"body":"Thank you!"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1161.9,"endTime":1164.0,"body":"So, I"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1161.9,"endTime":1164.0,"body":"suppose that I will leave you,"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1164.03,"endTime":1169.07,"body":"Megan-- and just by proxy, all"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1164.03,"endTime":1169.07,"body":"of our listeners-- with the"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1169.07,"endTime":1173.51,"body":"notion that if you hold onto"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1169.07,"endTime":1173.51,"body":"spite long enough, it becomes a"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1173.75,"endTime":1179.12,"body":"17-episode season long runner."},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1173.75,"endTime":1179.12,"body":"It is, in fact, grant supported"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1179.12,"endTime":1179.57,"body":"spite."},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1180.86,"endTime":1181.64,"body":"YEEESSS! The"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1180.86,"endTime":1181.64,"body":"dream."},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1181.88,"endTime":1185.93,"body":"So,"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1181.88,"endTime":1185.93,"body":"here's to you, Mrs. Wieznowski,"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1185.96,"endTime":1190.43,"body":"who failed my 5th grade book"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1185.96,"endTime":1190.43,"body":"report on an import-- I quote!--"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1190.52,"endTime":1193.76,"body":"\"an important person in Jewish"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1190.52,"endTime":1193.76,"body":"history,\" because I insisted it"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1193.76,"endTime":1197.06,"body":"be on Mel Brooks and not her"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1193.76,"endTime":1197.06,"body":"choice for me, Eliazer"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1197.0,"endTime":1202.91,"body":"You"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1197.0,"endTime":1202.91,"body":"have all reaped the benefit of"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1197.09,"endTime":1197.33,"body":"Ben-Yehuda."},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1197.33,"endTime":1197.75,"body":"*cracks up*"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1202.91,"endTime":1208.19,"body":"my 10 year old sense of outrage."},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1202.91,"endTime":1208.19,"body":"May it never be forgotten or"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1208.19,"endTime":1208.61,"body":"released."},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1211.94,"endTime":1216.17,"body":"Pre-adolescent"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1211.94,"endTime":1216.17,"body":"ourage? I feel like it's"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1216.17,"endTime":1219.74,"body":"supernova level. It could-- it"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1216.17,"endTime":1219.74,"body":"could solve the energy crisis."},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1219.77,"endTime":1221.93,"body":"That's... so beautiful."},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1221.96,"endTime":1223.88,"body":"I am"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1221.96,"endTime":1223.88,"body":"literally powered by spite and"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1223.88,"endTime":1224.84,"body":"painkillers."},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1224.93,"endTime":1227.18,"body":"Sure are. Sure"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1224.93,"endTime":1227.18,"body":"are!"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1227.18,"endTime":1229.52,"body":"Well,"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1227.18,"endTime":1229.52,"body":"let's, uh... If You Don't Know,"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1229.52,"endTime":1230.33,"body":"Now You Know!"},{"speaker":"If You Don't Know, Now You Know","startTime":1230.84,"endTime":1232.76,"body":"*If"},{"speaker":"If You Don't Know, Now You Know","startTime":1230.84,"endTime":1232.76,"body":"You Don't Know, Now You Know*"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1232.79,"endTime":1234.17,"body":"This"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1232.79,"endTime":1234.17,"body":"is the segment where we get one"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1234.17,"endTime":1237.68,"body":"factoid each. Megan, hit me up."},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1234.17,"endTime":1237.68,"body":"Go for it."},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1237.36,"endTime":1241.08,"body":"Okay, I shall."},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1237.36,"endTime":1241.08,"body":"My-- my factoid has, uh, at"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1241.08,"endTime":1244.53,"body":"least on its surface, absolutely"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1241.08,"endTime":1244.53,"body":"nothing to do with religion. But"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1244.53,"endTime":1248.01,"body":"we know, don't we, that all"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1244.53,"endTime":1248.01,"body":"history of the world has to do"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1248.01,"endTime":1252.51,"body":"with religion. So, I learned in"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1248.01,"endTime":1252.51,"body":"reading Mel Brooks biography,"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1252.81,"endTime":1257.01,"body":"autobiography, memoir-- It's All"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1252.81,"endTime":1257.01,"body":"About Me-- because you were"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1257.01,"endTime":1260.13,"body":"obsessed with it. I was like, I"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1257.01,"endTime":1260.13,"body":"need to know about this. So I"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1260.13,"endTime":1263.58,"body":"learned, in this book, so very"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1260.13,"endTime":1263.58,"body":"many things. But among them is"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1263.58,"endTime":1267.81,"body":"that Max Brooks is Mel Brooks'"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1263.58,"endTime":1267.81,"body":"son, and Max Brooks is the"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1267.81,"endTime":1272.37,"body":"author of the Zombie Survival"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1267.81,"endTime":1272.37,"body":"Guide, which was an early tome"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1272.37,"endTime":1278.22,"body":"in the early aughts obsession"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1272.37,"endTime":1278.22,"body":"with zombies, which I actually"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1278.25,"endTime":1281.46,"body":"gave to my current spouse when I"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1278.25,"endTime":1281.46,"body":"was leaving for grad school"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1281.46,"endTime":1285.6,"body":"because I didn't think I was"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1281.46,"endTime":1285.6,"body":"gonna see them ever again. And"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1285.6,"endTime":1288.45,"body":"that worked out differently. But"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1285.6,"endTime":1288.45,"body":"also, I will say that if you"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1288.45,"endTime":1291.6,"body":"think zombies are not about"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1288.45,"endTime":1291.6,"body":"religion, uhhhhh, you should"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1291.6,"endTime":1293.88,"body":"check out Kelly J. Baker,"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1291.6,"endTime":1293.88,"body":"because she will teach you"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst: Totally. Alright, my factoid is when Mel Brooks won the academy award for the Producers-- frankly, one of the best comedies ever written-- he said, quote, \"I'll just say what's in my heart: Ba-bump, ba-bump, ba-bump.\" And then he said thank you to Gene Wilder, the star of that film, thrice. In a row. 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Anne Lamott"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1353.08,"endTime":1355.99,"body":"says the two best prayers she"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1355.99,"endTime":1357.85,"body":"knows are \"help me, help me,"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1355.99,"endTime":1357.85,"body":"help me\" and \"thank you, thank"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1357.85,"endTime":1360.37,"body":"you, thank you.\" And boy, did"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1357.85,"endTime":1360.37,"body":"they help us and boy, are we"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1360.37,"endTime":1366.28,"body":"grateful. So. Go team! Don't"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1360.37,"endTime":1366.28,"body":"pack up your stuff yet, nerds."},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1366.28,"endTime":1368.05,"body":"It's time for-- homework!"},{"speaker":"Simpsons","startTime":1368.74,"endTime":1368.77,"body":"*Homework!*"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1369.92,"endTime":1371.9,"body":"Alright."},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1369.92,"endTime":1371.9,"body":"Do my man Mel Brooks his honor."},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1371.9,"endTime":1375.86,"body":"Please go watch History of the"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1371.9,"endTime":1375.86,"body":"World, Part 1. Listen to the"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1375.86,"endTime":1380.6,"body":"classic 2000 year old man bit"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1375.86,"endTime":1380.6,"body":"with Carl Reiner. 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And watch the"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1389.06,"endTime":1392.54,"body":"original Producers-- which, beat"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1392.54,"endTime":1394.82,"body":"for beat, truly, one of the"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1392.54,"endTime":1394.82,"body":"funniest things ever written."},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1395.48,"endTime":1398.48,"body":"Also, read \"All About Me,\" Mel's"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1395.48,"endTime":1398.48,"body":"recent memoir, which Megan"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1398.51,"endTime":1400.73,"body":"rightfully said I was obsessed"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1398.51,"endTime":1400.73,"body":"with because it's everything I"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1400.73,"endTime":1405.8,"body":"wanted, but for us academics,"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1400.73,"endTime":1405.8,"body":"it's also really, like, a lovely"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1405.8,"endTime":1409.22,"body":"love letter to collaboration,"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1405.8,"endTime":1409.22,"body":"writing, and research-- yes,"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1409.25,"endTime":1411.68,"body":"research! 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So, stay tuned for how to"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1525.0,"endTime":1528.03,"body":"get involved by following us--"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1525.0,"endTime":1528.03,"body":"obviously-- on the Twitters and"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1528.03,"endTime":1528.99,"body":"the Instagram."},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1529.26,"endTime":1531.54,"body":"Shoutout"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1529.26,"endTime":1531.54,"body":"to our research assistant, Alex"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1531.54,"endTime":1535.83,"body":"Castellano, whose transcription"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1531.54,"endTime":1535.83,"body":"work this WHOLE YEAR made this"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1535.83,"endTime":1538.26,"body":"pod accessible, and therefore"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1535.83,"endTime":1538.26,"body":"awesome."},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1538.25,"endTime":1541.336,"body":"We love you,"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1538.25,"endTime":1541.336,"body":"Alex! We want you to stay with"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1541.408,"endTime":1545.572,"body":"us forever, but also, we want"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1541.408,"endTime":1545.572,"body":"you to graduate and become a"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1545.644,"endTime":1549.951,"body":"fully actualized adult human!"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1545.644,"endTime":1549.951,"body":"Kick ass. *sighs* You can find"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1550.023,"endTime":1554.545,"body":"Megan-- that's me-- on Twitter"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1550.023,"endTime":1554.545,"body":"@mpgPhD, and Ilyse @ProfIRMF, or"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1554.617,"endTime":1559.068,"body":"the show @keepingit_101. Find"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1554.617,"endTime":1559.068,"body":"the website at keepingit101.com."},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1559.14,"endTime":1563.734,"body":"Peep the Insta if you wanna, and"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1559.14,"endTime":1563.734,"body":"rate us-- nope. Yes. Well, drop"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1563.806,"endTime":1568.76,"body":"us a rating or review in your"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1563.806,"endTime":1568.76,"body":"podcatcher of choice. And, with that..."},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1569.23,"endTime":1571.24,"body":"Peace"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1569.23,"endTime":1571.24,"body":"out, nerds!"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1571.36,"endTime":1573.88,"body":"And do your"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1571.36,"endTime":1573.88,"body":"homework! It's on the syllabus."},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1575.62,"endTime":1575.83,"body":"*outro music*"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1591.31,"endTime":1593.92,"body":"This season, we were delighted"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1591.31,"endTime":1593.92,"body":"and honored to have Dr. Debra"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1593.92,"endTime":1597.34,"body":"Majeed join us for our second"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1593.92,"endTime":1597.34,"body":"episode on Islam. She graciously"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1597.34,"endTime":1600.52,"body":"accepted our invitation, even as"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1597.34,"endTime":1600.52,"body":"she challenged us to expand our"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1600.52,"endTime":1603.64,"body":"understanding of expertise,"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1600.52,"endTime":1603.64,"body":"insisting there are many valid"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1603.64,"endTime":1608.11,"body":"ways of knowing. Dr. Majeed died"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1603.64,"endTime":1608.11,"body":"this past March. She is mourned,"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1608.14,"endTime":1611.56,"body":"missed, and beloved by many. And"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1608.14,"endTime":1611.56,"body":"Ilyse and I were so sorry to"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1611.56,"endTime":1615.1,"body":"hear of her passing. We remain"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1611.56,"endTime":1615.1,"body":"grateful for her voice, her"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1615.1,"endTime":1618.49,"body":"generosity, and her scholarship."},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1615.1,"endTime":1618.49,"body":"We thought it only appropriate"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1618.49,"endTime":1621.25,"body":"to let Dr. Majeed have the last"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1618.49,"endTime":1621.25,"body":"word this season."},{"speaker":"Dr. Debra Majeed","startTime":1623.45,"endTime":1626.639,"body":"My name is"},{"speaker":"Dr. Debra Majeed","startTime":1623.45,"endTime":1626.639,"body":"Debra Majeed, and I study gender"},{"speaker":"Dr. Debra Majeed","startTime":1626.713,"endTime":1631.238,"body":"and Island with a particular"},{"speaker":"Dr. Debra Majeed","startTime":1626.713,"endTime":1631.238,"body":"focus on family law issues. 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Muslim women are"},{"speaker":"Dr. Debra Majeed","startTime":1654.232,"endTime":1658.163,"body":"often viewed and projected"},{"speaker":"Dr. Debra Majeed","startTime":1654.232,"endTime":1658.163,"body":"within the narrow prism of"},{"speaker":"Dr. Debra Majeed","startTime":1658.237,"endTime":1662.836,"body":"victimhood. 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