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Probably incorrect."},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1990.74,"endTime":1992.33,"body":"At least before this episode."},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1990.74,"endTime":1992.33,"body":"You're welcome."},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1993.59,"endTime":1995.21,"body":"But"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1993.59,"endTime":1995.21,"body":"don't pack up yet. Nerds. You've"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1995.21,"endTime":1999.41,"body":"got homework. Homework. Why"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1995.21,"endTime":1999.41,"body":"don't work. Goodwin I'm just"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1999.41,"endTime":2002.5,"body":"going to take the homework this"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1999.41,"endTime":2002.5,"body":"time. Yeah, just do it. 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