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I mean, like more"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":895.74,"endTime":898.86,"body":"specifically, what am I missing"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":899.04,"endTime":902.55,"body":"when the historical record I use"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":899.04,"endTime":902.55,"body":"only preserves the voices of"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":902.55,"endTime":906.6,"body":"rich elite Muslim men from"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":902.55,"endTime":906.6,"body":"really particular cities in"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":906.6,"endTime":910.8,"body":"North India, and usually written"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":906.6,"endTime":910.8,"body":"in very specific clusters of"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":910.8,"endTime":915.09,"body":"languages. 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