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I was kind of"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1496.77,"endTime":1499.32,"body":"thinking that this primary"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1496.77,"endTime":1499.32,"body":"sources could be even more about"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1499.32,"endTime":1503.01,"body":"how we learned to do this work,"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1499.32,"endTime":1503.01,"body":"but not, like, the important"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1503.01,"endTime":1504.99,"body":"books like how do we learn how"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1503.01,"endTime":1504.99,"body":"to use an archive, but the"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1504.99,"endTime":1508.62,"body":"little things you pick up and"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1504.99,"endTime":1508.62,"body":"then looking back, where it is"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1508.65,"endTime":1510.84,"body":"IT- it is the thing."},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1511.77,"endTime":1515.4,"body":"Yeah, yes. 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No, you go first."},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1516.66,"endTime":1517.05,"body":"Okay."},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1518.82,"endTime":1519.3,"body":"Please and thank"},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1518.82,"endTime":1519.3,"body":"you."},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1520.44,"endTime":1523.71,"body":"Cool."},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1520.44,"endTime":1523.71,"body":"I want to talk about genealogy."},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1523.95,"endTime":1527.88,"body":"So on this here pod, I've talked"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1523.95,"endTime":1527.88,"body":"a lot about where I come from"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1527.88,"endTime":1531.72,"body":"and how where I come from is"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1527.88,"endTime":1531.72,"body":"adoption. 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