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I'll"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1547.57,"endTime":1551.44,"body":"link those on the show notes."},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1547.57,"endTime":1551.44,"body":"And we've got a pretty brand new"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1551.44,"endTime":1554.35,"body":"book, I think this just came"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1551.44,"endTime":1554.35,"body":"out, um, about the constructions"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1554.35,"endTime":1558.82,"body":"of religion, but through the"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1554.35,"endTime":1558.82,"body":"lens of Hinduism in Trinidad,"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1559.12,"endTime":1562.51,"body":"which is called \"The Regulation"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1559.12,"endTime":1562.51,"body":"of Religion and the Making of"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1562.51,"endTime":1565.93,"body":"Hinduism in Colonial Trinidad\""},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1562.51,"endTime":1565.93,"body":"by Alexander Rocklin."},{"speaker":"Megan Goodwin","startTime":1566.2,"endTime":1566.56,"body":"Ooh!"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1566.66,"endTime":1568.4,"body":"So"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1566.66,"endTime":1568.4,"body":"check that book out. I-I It just"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1568.4,"endTime":1572.48,"body":"showed up, I, uh, admit, dear"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1568.4,"endTime":1572.48,"body":"nerds, I've read the intro. So,"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1572.48,"endTime":1574.37,"body":"it looks good. The rest of book"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1572.48,"endTime":1574.37,"body":"looks good, I'm gonna read it"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1574.37,"endTime":1578.48,"body":"too, it's assigned to me also."},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1574.37,"endTime":1578.48,"body":"BIG thanks to those of you"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1578.48,"endTime":1582.17,"body":"writing reviews on iTunes,"},{"speaker":"Ilyse Morgenstein Fuerst","startTime":1578.48,"endTime":1582.17,"body":"Spotify, Amazon and Google. 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