spk_0:   0:05
you are listening to Episode 13 of the level of your wedding film business podcast. Today. I've got my friend Katherine from Bling Films on the show to talk about something that she does with excellence, and that's infusing yourself and your personality into your business and how that can truly benefit you. I'm your host, Taylor Petrovich, and at the core of the show, I want you to feel inspired to take your business to the next level, and I want to give you the tools in practical advice to help you along the way. So let's level up together. I've said this before on the podcast, but it's something worth repeating, especially given the topic of today's episode. And that is the fact that clients are far more likely to book a vendor that they feel connected to. I actually have a statistic here, and it says that 64% of consumers say their loyalty and desire to purchase a product or in our case, hire us for a service increases when they feel personally connected to that brand. I think it's pretty clear that our goal should be to build some sort of personal connection with our potential clients, and an extremely effective way of doing that is simply by becoming the face of your brand to stop hiding behind a logo and images of your couples and put yourself a little bit more front and center when it comes to your website and your branding in general, Today's episode is an interview with my friend Katherine. Over at Blink Films. Katherine Midge is the wedding and elopement videographer behind Blink Films, based in Denver, Colorado. She started Blink Films in 2017 immediately upon graduating college, and she hasn't looked back since since launching her business, it has been Katherine's mission to produce films that break the mold of what wedding films quote unquote should be, creating work that is a raw, an intimate look into the couple and their love story Beyond the simple documentation of a wedding day. Catherine is an incredibly passionate filmmaker, and it's evident that she's drives to make each couple's film a true reflection of them. Hey, Catherine, thank you so much for coming on the podcast High

spk_1:   2:07
Taylor, thank you so much for having me. I'm really excited to sit down and chat with you.

spk_0:   2:11
Yeah, I'm excited to have you. So I really wanted to bring you on the podcast because I think that you're doing something that a lot of people can learn from and that is inserting yourself into your business. I think that so many of us, um, get a little nervous to kind of be the face of our brand. But I think that you do such an amazing job. So I want to talk to you a little bit about how you got started in your business. Can you tell us a little bit about your origin story?

spk_1:   2:39
Absolutely. So I will spare you the full detailed story, but insure I started blink films in college. Um, it goes way back. I was a chimneys for 13 years as a child and was eventually forced to retire after a serious injury. So my high school and college years we're really about exploration. And reinventing myself in college was a serious transition period for me. And I began with a nursing degree and quickly realized I'm far too empathetic to handle a career like that. S o. I had always been interested in fine art and did it as a hobby. Since I was a child, But gosh, college was the first time I started thinking that I could actually explore it beyond just a hobby. S o. I dipped into photography and drawing classes and then eventually landed on graphic design. Um, and I was in that time that I was studying my major, that I actually found film. Oddly enough, so I began with school projects and passion projects. Literally. Anything that I could do to bring my camera long for the sake of documenting and creating something s O in that time is when I was introduced, tow the wedding industry and I filmed a wedding here, and they're few and far between on fast forward. About two years to 2017 come my senior thesis time, and I decided I'm going to be my own boss. I knew that for a fact, and I wanted to start my own business on. I knew that there was absolutely no way that it was in my cards to graduate and work in the corporate field s. So I spent the next few months designing and pitching the concept for what is now my career. Three years later and I know this story is, like, always a bit weird to follow because it's like, Oh, gymnastics, nursing, like now you're here. But I truly credit each of those things gymnastics for preparing me, the life skills I needed to carry this into my career. And a lot of what attracted me to nursing is actually being fulfilled through filmmaking. Now s so here we are 2020 and I'm beginning my third year's blank films full time. That's

spk_0:   4:46
so amazing. That so awesome. So can you kind of walk us through How, maybe how your business looked in the early days, like maybe those first few weddings, and then maybe compare that to what it looks like today.

spk_1:   4:58
Oh, my gosh, So, so much growth has happened in three years and I love this question a lot because from the beginning, literally, the only thing I had was passion. I had no idea what I was doing. I was just a young woman, extremely passionate about creating on putting my like, putting in the work for my voice to be heard and that latter part like I I feel like I'm still doing the same thing Now, just with three more years of experience. So entering the wedding industry, it's like it can be super intimidating filming or for a sweating. I mean, I've learned a ton since then, and it truly just comes with experience in time. Um, but I was very ignorant about what it takes to start a business. All of the work that goes into it on the back end. But I actually am very grateful for that ignorance because I think if you know everything up front, it could be really intimidating and just turning away from even starting in the first place. Yeah, but I really feel like like when I look back to myself, then compared to now, I feel like I was just like, Ah, baby draft, you know, And I'm like, Hey, wedding industry, I'm here and I want to film weddings and that's it, you know. But I was determined to succeed and make it by full time. Right out of the gate. There was no other question for

spk_0:   6:14
that's so amazing. So if you don't mind me asking, how many weddings are you shooting right now? And what what's your like? Average price? Sure.

spk_1:   6:24
So as of 2020 I'll be capping my bookings at 18. Ah, the most I've ever taken on in a year was 25. And as we all learn from the burn out and taking on too much work, that's been a big learning experience for me. So, um, based on that 18 number I've strategically, strategically planned, you know. How many can I take on a month? How many can I take on to stay on top of my backlog? So that's where I'm at this year. Currently. Have 16 on the books? Um, yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's where we're at right now. I feel good about that number.

spk_0:   7:01
Yeah. Perfect. And how much are you charging currently?

spk_1:   7:04
Shirts on my wedding package is currently started. 5100 and elements are right around 4240 to 50.

spk_0:   7:12
Awesome. Um, would you say that you're trying to market yourself more towards the allotment market, or do you know it really care what you get?

spk_1:   7:20
I've thought a lot about that, and I love I truly didn't my toes into large weddings and elements. I talked about this recently, and as much as I just adore the intimacy of low moments, I don't know that I want to limit myself to strictly allotments because I think having the diversity in my wedding escape and different weddings that I take on it really keeps me creative as to how I approach my work. Um, I I love that like, I love the diversity of so many different weddings. And if there's someone out there who's having a huge wedding, that's like, I wanna have Catherine film it like I would hate for them not to be able to have that opportunity, like, simply because I only formal opens. Now, you

spk_0:   8:01
know you don't want a box yourself in

spk_1:   8:03
for sure. The mix is really awesome. And I'm really happy doing both right now.

spk_0:   8:08
Yeah, but I love that you said that keeping it divers is gonna keep you more like your head in the game. It's gonna keep you being creative. And I think that that could be an issue where people are still Ming, like, just local weddings over and over and over again, because, like, they're just at the same venue with the same vendors, like over and over. And so I like that you strategically or trying to do multiple things of the same time to keep it like fresh for you. Yes, I'm Yardley. That's awesome. So your style, I think, is very unique. Can you, like, explain what your style looks like? I'm sure a lot of people have seen what your works looks like, but in case people haven't and they can go check it out after the podcast. How would you describe your

spk_1:   8:48
work? Uh, thank you for that compliment. I really, really appreciate that. And appreciate it that you like to describe It is unique because that's really what I'm after with my work I would really classify. I mean, these words continue Clea be overused. But I truly believe that my style is raw. It's artistic and creative, and it's very emotionally driven. Um, even with the large weddings that I shoe, I think that there's an intimacy and a mood to my films that really pulls you into the emotion. Um, I I think that the more creative freedom that I have granted from my couples, the happier I am. I like I don't like to, you know, just follow the typical, like beginning to end story arc of how wedding film should be so with each

spk_0:   9:38
quote unquote should me. Obviously you're breaking the mold. So

spk_1:   9:43
for sure, So I think that's really important. You know, I just approach each wedding and want for that film to be unique and different to fully represent their love. That couple in that day And I want you to be able to see a glimpse of their personality outside of this one day, you know, like, who is this couple and what are they about and what do they believe in? So, yeah, that's really how I approach my work and my storytelling.

spk_0:   10:07
I love that. I actually think that that idea is really valuable, because I've talked about this a few times on the podcast. But when we start out, I think that it's supernatural for us to try to just kind of copy and emulate the people that we look up to in the industry. And for me, that was, like specifically white in reverie, like I was just kind of trying to chase like exactly what they were doing their formula, and I think it's that's the wrong move like that will get you to like where you want to go. May be faster, but it's not like and help you in the long run. And so I love that The way you do it is like they're just being true to yourself and trying to stay too true to your couple and not trying to chase something that maybe you've seen like in the market already.

spk_1:   10:47
For sure. No. Think, Yeah, I completely agree. And honestly, like we all start out at that place where we get started and you have your idols that you look up to what in reverie is incredible, and it's so easy to look at that and just be like, That's the type of film maker I want to be. But you have to, like, nip that as soon as you can. As you see that you're growing in your business and growing in your style, because I think the sooner that you start to evolve and work on your voice, the sooner you're obviously gonna set yourself apart. You know, it's really, really important. And I heard I don't know if you know who were Cardiff. I certainly is. He's like one of my idols in the wedding industry, but he was talking about recently like he compared wedding filmmakers to abandon cover bands. And he said, like I cover band, a cover band is never going to get famous a song just singing the covers of other artists, you know? And I think that applies. And it's so inspiring to the wedding industry, too. Because if you find yourself just tryingto emulate someone else's style and make that your own, you're just gonna be a lesser version of them, you know?

spk_0:   11:57
Yeah, yeah, it's the Trailblazers who actually get there. Yes, yeah, sure, Yeah, I love that. That's actually like a super smart way to look at it. Eso we did touch on the fact that you're unique and we've been talking about how you have a unique style. And so I want to kind of draw the conversation a little bit about how you reflect that. Like in your branding, you make it very clear who you are and what you're all about. So can we talk about how you choose to translate that to your website? Maybe Social Media for

spk_1:   12:29
absolutely, absolutely no. That's a huge compliment and something that I've really invested a lot of time and work into, um and being unique and like the face of your brand. You know, I don't think that's applicable to every industry or even every wedding filmmaker, you know, because depending on what market an audience you're trying to reach, you may not want to be the face of your brand, but for me, and having my films be very emotionally driven and really trying to get this intimacy out of my couples, Um, I think it's very much a two way street. And if I'm asking that of my couples, I want to be able toe, have them go to my site and immediately be like, OK, I really have a feel for who this girl is and who I'm trusting like this day with, um so that is where it came down to be, where I'm just like, OK, I really have to immerse myself more into my brand and have my voice on my website. See how I would talk to you in person, you know, like the things that I say on there, what I stand for and I'm not wanting to hold anything back and having couples see that and know before they even reach out. This is what this girl is about. That's what super important to me. Um, and I actually learned a lot about that. And branding in school, which I'm really, really thankful for is we studied branding a lot, and I want to and even continue to do some more, infusing more myself into my sight. Um, and I've noticed since I've put in that work and done that, um, the amount of enquiries I received has gone down, but the quality of my leads has risen significantly. And I think that the more you work you put into your bringing in the face of your brand it it just helped your business tenfold and attracts the type of people that you would want to spend time with outside of work anyway, you know?

spk_0:   14:29
Yeah. I love that. Yeah, it's It's so funny. Um, vanity metrics are such a fucking thing where people are, like, how many enquiries do you get monthly and like, some people might get like hundreds. But, I mean, how many of those air actually booking? And I would far rather spend my time on email with people who are really interested in working with me and like, who are gonna follow through instead of just, like, ask, answering the same questions over and over and over. So I love that I do something similar. I do have a goal this year of like, upping my branding a little bit and putting a little bit more myself in there. But what I do to show transparency is like I have all of my pricing information like, readily available on my website, and I've noticed the same thing, like the amount of leads I get like into my inbox has gone down. But, like, basically, they all book me because, like, they already know what's up. And so they're just ready tow. Give me money like yours. Your deposit. Um, yeah, that's so cool. Um, so I think it's super brave to be the face of your brand. And I love that you said that you're trying to make it a two way street with your couples because you're so right. Like their wedding day is such an emotional day. And it could be hard for them to, like, pull that wall down and let us as like, they're storytellers, essentially like in in their story, but it makes it so worth it for them. Um and I love that you kind of lead by example and you tear the walls down for yourself so that they can then do the same thing. I just thought that was worth kind of repeating because that was sure a perfect little nugget in there. Yeah. Do you? Do you have any tips on where maybe other filmmakers can start? Maybe if they're nervous about inserting themselves into their brand like May, we would like the first few baby steps they can start to D'oh.

spk_1:   16:15
Absolutely. So I think this is a really interesting question to one of the biggest lessons is one of like the biggest thing I think I learned about branding in general is that one brand cannot be for everybody, and it shouldn't be for everybody. So the sooner you can identify who your target demographic ISS and hone in on your style and your voice, it's going to be that much easier to immerse yourself into your brand when you're confident about what you're putting out there and wanting to attract more of that and something I've like when I reflect on my own experience, it actually doesn't even have to do with videography at all because what it came down to for me and my experience was finding confidence just in myself was a human without my brand in the conversation at all on Guy feel like as my confidence grew personally, I was more inclined to bring myself into my brand. I used to worry so much about everything I said being too much this way or I should have said it this way. Or, you know, like putting an INSTAGRAM story on there with your face. It's just like, how do I act? Well, it's like, OK, people want to see you, They want to see yourself and as soon as they can identify with that person behind the screen, I think that it's so, so true that people will book someone for their wedding day because they like them as a human as much as they like their work, you know. So I think that you're on Lee, benefiting yourself to shoulder outside of yourself in immersing your face in your brand because the sooner you do that, the sooner you're going to start spending your time with these couples, where it's easy to make conversation and easy to spend time with them on their wedding day. So that was just, like came through. Just a lot of personal work and myself and gaining that confidence is a human to know, really what I'm about, what I stand for, and that's constantly evolving. But that has given me the confidence to show up in different areas of social or break into the areas of YouTube and just be like a Here's my face and here's my personality and take it or leave it. But this is what blink is, and this is what it means to me, you know, because I really wanted my brand to just represent who I am as a person, especially in the wedding industry, when you're working, like with such people in, like that's most emotional day of their lives, you know? But it's something I'm really passionate about. I could

spk_0:   18:42
go. No, I love it. I love it. I'm just like, tell me more. Tell me, Uh, no, I think that you made a lot of good points, but one that is standing out to me is, um, being confident in yourself. I think that so many people can be a little nervous because they think that they're too Like you said to loud They said the wrong things like they're too much of something, some sort of quality. But the beauty is that, like we all have people out there like we have a tribe like someone is gonna love you like but the same person who loves you might hate me, you know? So, like, we all are gonna attract repel different people. And the fact that you are repelling specific people means you're doing your job. I've talked about this a little bit on a different episode, but being able thio zero in on the exact kind of person that you want to work with is also gonna help you be like have longevity in this career. Because if you're just doing the work just for a paycheck and like working with people that you don't really like or making films that you don't really enjoy, like you're gonna feel that burn out so much harder than if you're feeling passionate and like connected with people that yeah, it's gonna fuel your soul. It's gonna fuel like your creativity is gonna fuel your happiness. If you could be just totally true to yourself. Totally true. Toe what you want to be creating and repelling anything that doesn't align with that. Um, I spent like I struggled a little bit. I thought that I should be doing, like, destination working allotments, because that's where I saw everyone else doing. Um, like, in my mind, that meant you succeeded. Like, you're getting these weddings. And now you've arrived like, But I have two kids and their three and one so they're little and finding that being away from them, like, did not feel me like that made me, like, heartsick and like, Mimi, I'm not happy. And so I had to, like, take a step back and, like, reevaluate. Like, who do I actually want to be working with? And so, like, I have something really cool. Um, weddings for this year, I'm gonna be in Yosemite San Francisco Tahoe few times. Um, I'm in Northern California, So those air not like crazy destinations, but they're like overnighters for sure. And so I've had to definitely, like, bringing back and, like, try to refine my own brand, my own ideal client and stuff. So to make me happy. So I love that for you. It's like you want to connect emotionally and, like, be just totally, all in invested, um, and so finding what fuels you as a creative and being able to lean into that and to, like, refine that in your business is gonna go a long way. I love that. And I will get myself box now. No, that's

spk_1:   21:19
amazing. You made so many good points there. And I love bringing up the whole destination market because that is such a hot thing in the industry right now. So ha. And it's It's so easy when you're getting started to look at that and be like, Okay, that is the definition of success. And there it's gonna be different for everybody. I personally am on the exact same pages you where I have traveled and I am just like, you know what? If we're being riel, I like I am more of a home body. I like to be home with my husband and my dogs and know that

spk_0:   21:53
I leave in your own bed. Yes,

spk_1:   21:55
sleep in my own bed and drive an hour or two to a wedding as opposed to take three days to travel somewhere, you know. And while it's so amazing to shoot in these incredible in different locations, it really takes a toll on you. And I think that you just have to recognize right up front, like, what can you handle on How are you gonna be your best self? Because I quickly realized like, Hey, I cannot travel more than two or three times a year, and that's just what's gonna be best for me, And that's how I'm going to show up and be my best self. But that that is such a like an important lesson to learn because, like everyone's definition of success is not the same, you know, and it's so easy to think that there's only one way to get to the top, and it's not that way at all.

spk_0:   22:42
Yeah, and that's like a huge reason why you should know down to your very core why you're doing this. Because I'm sure that you could get a different job and make just as much money and it would be way less stressful. But finding why you're in this is going to really help you in the long run. Yeah, Um Yeah. So whether that means you need to have a job where you can be artistic and free and be your own boss not be tied down by anybody or if it means something else, like just being true to that and being honest with yourself and then just leaning into that hard and hitting it with more force, like, is gonna Yeah, go a long way. I want to hear

spk_1:   23:24
why is huge. And I like while we're on the topic, I would actually love to know years like, what is your Why, behind your business and being a winning filmmaker?

spk_0:   23:31
Yeah. So I, um when I was pregnant with my first daughter, I started a YOUTUBE channel, and it was like like a mom channel, like I talked about, like, pregnancy and, like, baby stuff, I actually had, like, mild success. I have, like, 10,000 subscribers there. It's like, totally like Dead channel. But, um uh, I got, like, really bored of the kind of content I was creating, and I, like, had bought all of this gear essentially like not the best year ever. But like enough thio to YouTube And my husband was like, Well, you already have, like, a skill set of creating videos want you. See, you like what you could do with that Because, um, around the time my older daughter turned one is when I made that transition, I just I can't just be a mom like my brain. Just kind of honestly, like, melts if I'm just, like, changing diapers all day or whatever. I mean, don't get me wrong. I'm I am in love with my Children, but, like, I need to have something else to focus on, um, for myself, too. So I started trying to do a like family films, like, I think I've seen, like, a few people, like pop up and turns out there's not, like a huge market for that. But, um, a girl that I went to high school with saw that I posted it on Facebook and she was just like, Can you feel my wedding? And so that's kind of it. And I was like, Yeah, obviously I can film the wedding like, uh, so, um, no. Yeah, it was Ah, a lot harder than I thought it would be. So

spk_1:   24:50
yeah. No, I totally understand having that kind of outlet outside of your identity is among, you know, another way to, like, really captured these moments that are important. I'm sure having your own family to its like you realize how important this is for people to have those moments documented. So, yeah, it is like everyone has their own lives. But you have to You're exactly right. Like, you have to know exactly what that is. Because we all experience burnout. We all experience stress. It's not all like butterflies and rainbows all the time. No, it's not knowing your why and like having that to come back to is crucial.

spk_0:   25:24
Yeah, and honestly, allowing that. Why? To kind of steer some of your decisions. I have structured my business in a way that I think that a lot of people would cringe at. Um, I have, like, the base package model, were like they just add on to the highlight film, essentially. But I offer unlimited coverage with that, um because I value like freedom, like I want to show up and leave whenever I want to. And I don't want to be like asking the bride and groom if they want to add two hours onto their coverage time because it ran late. Yeah, you know what I mean? Like, I want to be old too, Just, like do what I want to do because I'm not doing this necessarily. Like to get that extra 300 bucks or whatever for, like, extra coverage time, like, I just want to be in full control. And so that serves me. And so that's why I made those decisions. And same reason why I put my pricing on my website like I am a mom and I work from home and so, like, my time is super valuable. And I don't want to be spending, like, all day in my inbox, like doing nothing else. So I figured that would eliminate any like, uh, you know, what are they like, Tire kickers? Yeah,

spk_1:   26:26
absolutely. Yeah. Speaking of I meant to say, like when you said that you put your pricing on your upside. I experience the exact same thing and I think it's a tip that I almost wish I would have learned earlier because I used to not even have starting prices on my website at all. And ever since I did that just like a ballpark, here's where I start at. Like, I have had so much more time where I haven't had to spend in my inbox answering emails, you know? Yeah, that is like that is improving the quality of your leads and people who are actually serious about you and booking you like guys. Yeah. Anything that I've learned to,

spk_0:   27:02
they don't know how. I mean, it's their first time getting married. Probably is the first time ever, Like delving into the world of wedding videography at all. They don't know how much it costs. Like it might cost 600 bucks in their mind or 10,000 like they don't know. And so yeah, they is just educating them. And if your prices are too high, then they'll go to the next person. And if they're like dating your bargain, like compared to what I thought then they wouldn't write a year, so yeah. Yeah, I love it. Um, awesome. So you mentioned YouTube. I do not have that in my notes, but you want to tell me a little bit about that?

spk_1:   27:35
So very, very, very beginning stages, like, absolutely very beginning. I have been, like, kind of chugging through my 2019 backlogs. So in my slower season coming up, I'm going to have more time to invest in that. But YouTube is such an incredible tool, and I have tank it. Advantage of so many free resource is on YouTube that I feel like it's time in my growth and my personal experiences to start to give back where I can. You know I love for like, educational resource is and you know there's gonna be things that I am not an expert teaching on. But I think that they're also niches that I can fill a cz faras like editing storytelling. I think that those are might strengths as a filmmaker, and that is just an area where I want to start really dumping that content, you know, because getting Diem's here and there. It's like you can on Lee answer so much and

spk_0:   28:31
yeah, a

spk_1:   28:31
message back to somebody. So that's something that I've really been focusing on and wanting to start implementing into my business is just offering. Educational resource is, you know, I have like, my first Q and I up there just going over some standard basic questions, but I would love to start like walking through an edit that I just released in kind of like show people how I approach my storytelling and that nature. So I think that, yeah, like I'm just I'm inspired by the area, and I don't think YouTube is going anywhere anytime soon. So oh, I would love to start taking advantage of that. You know,

spk_0:   29:08
I love that because I mean, I think a lot of people get stopped by seeing like, what's already out there and thinking that there's not room for you, but like there's only one Katherine magic you don't even like on Lee. One person can teach what you know the way that you do. And like, there's so much value in that, like honestly, with me starting the podcast like I had so many like, there's like plenty of different podcast out there that are doing like amazing, but like, Well, I actually do think that I have, like an individual like voice and like I see things differently than like a lot of other people see. And I think there's value in everybody in the way that they see the world and what they can share. So I'm excited to see what you d'oh, I'll be, uh, appreciate it. Subscribing assumes, waking up on the call. Yeah, well,

spk_1:   29:54
I've always said like it's it's so interesting because you spend a couple of hours on you, too, when you see all of these like bloggers on their quote unquote influencers or whatever. But I've always said like if you gave the exact same script to 100 different people and had 100 different people sit down and watch each of those videos, they would each identify with someone else, even though they're like, let's say, sharing the exact same content because you do see repeat content on YouTube all the time. But once there's someone that you actually like love learning from and feel like you identify with or think like, have things in common with. That's kind of what has gotten me over my hump because I've considered it for years but have been afraid, you know, And once I kind of came to that realization. I'm just like, Hey, if there's just one person out there that likes what I have to say, or if I'm able to help them grow in their business, there truly is room for everybody I fully believe in community over a competition of 1000. They're

spk_0:   30:53
really, really, really is room for everybody like yes, truly, truly there is. And I love seeing female females enter like the educational space, too, because I think we said this before the light we started recording. But, um, I do think that it's actually pretty evenly split between males and females in like the wedding film world. But I just think that there's less females were out spoken. And so I think that if you can kind of level the playing field and bring us up, then like you're gonna attract so many people who a lot of the like voices out there like haven't been able to attract. And so that's so beautiful and it's so inspiring to

spk_1:   31:31
thank you. No, I love that. And I like I get inspired by so many other females out there. You know, I don't I've I've never felt any different compared to like a male filmmaker, You know, I've like no one has ever made me feel less than being a female filmmaker, but I exactly what you said, I think just having power in our voice and having the confidence to share that. I think it's like, at least in my experience, I find myself, you know, questioning what I say before I say it. And sometimes I'm just like, you know what? Like just be proud of your voice and put it out there. And don't be afraid to do that. And I think it goes back like, full circle exactly to what you just said about finding that power. And, you know, just representing more of us because we're out there

spk_0:   32:17
were out there. There's Yeah, we're just quiet. Yeah. Yep, exactly. I love that. Well, Awesome. Catherine, We're going to start wrapping up. But if you have any, like, other things you want to say or anything else you want to touch on, I'd love to do that.

spk_1:   32:34
I think just for anyone out there who is getting started or feeling discouraged or having an off day, it's It's one of those things that literally happens to everybody. But I when I was listening to your earlier episodes and you were kind of I might be butchering this, but it's like, Who were you talking about? The potato chip analogy? Oh, right. Yeah, like I actually related to that a lot because I think when we get started, the industry can feel like so incredibly saturated. And you're just like, how am I different from my competitors? Air? How can I stand out? And I think that if this is something that any of you listeners air like truly, truly passionate about and care about, like, keep putting in the time and the effort because the experience and your growth does come with time on dhe that's been my biggest lesson in learning is just to keep investing in yourself in your business and your growth and finding your voice and not letting self doubt get in the way of any of that.

spk_0:   33:36
Yep. Yep. And as soon as you start kind of climbing the air is a lot fresher of the earth is, like a little bit more real ugly. Exactly. Yep. Yep. Yeah. Break through the noise. Awesome. Katherine. Well, I really appreciate you coming on the show.

spk_1:   33:50
Absolutely. Thank you so much for having me. It was great chatting with you for a little bit.

spk_0:   33:59
I so hope you guys enjoyed listening to my conversation with Katherine. I am going to give a few key takeaways from this episode. But first I want to tell you where you can find Catherine and her film studio. If you want to learn more about her, you can find Catherine at Blink Films on Instagram. It is B L N k. She took the eye out of their hand. I will link her website Inter you to channel in the show notes as well, and I highly encourage you to go check those things out. I do have a few key takeaways from this episode. The first is that it all starts in having confidence in yourself and what you have to offer own who you are and be confident that there are clients out there who love what you stand for and they love your style. Be true to yourself and own your way of doing things. And that will get you a lot farther in this career than trying to imitate other people in the industry. If you're enjoying the podcast, I love it. If you would leave me a review wherever you're listening, those reviews go a long way in helping other filmmakers find the podcast, and it's my hope that I can help as many people as possible and until next time, friends just keep pushing forward