General Aviation Discussion

Speaker 1

Yeah , three watching now .

Speaker 2

We're just waiting on Barb . Hopefully she's not one of the three . I guess it wouldn't matter .

Speaker 1

No , oh , I wanted to do some . Have you talked to Ian negative , okay , I Need to email him and apologize for my Getting my airplanes mixed up .

Speaker 2

Oh , okay .

Speaker 1

I have not been able to sleep . Oh No , i'm just thinking it's like man . I said P , he said PA 14 . I was talking about PA 16 .

Speaker 2

I don't think that was actually on the live stream though .

Speaker 1

God , it's not gonna turn into any .

Speaker 2

I don't know , i have to go through all that .

Speaker 3

Well , yeah , okay It gets his PA's mixed up . That's , that's bad . It's real bad .

Speaker 2

That's the depressing .

Speaker 1

I am depressed .

Speaker 2

What mistake did you make precisely ?

Speaker 1

so we were talking about . So he got a PA 12 , a super cruiser , and which a lot of it's two . They're cost-effective alternative to a super cub and In some senses they have . They have their own merit . They're cool in a way . They have a lot more elbow room , things like that . They'll never truly be a super cub just because the way the wings are mounted , the fuselage , the angle of incidence is not . It's not the same Angles of supercubs to the short field won't . It'll be closed . But it'll never be a super cub unless you just put a lot of money into it to correct that , if you even can . So he has one of those we were talking about . The insurance company He was like trying , there's only a couple different types of airplanes that he could go fly that they would use as Time building . Yeah , for checkout purposes .

Speaker 1

Yeah and one of them was a PA 14 , i believe . I believe he said PA 14 , which is a cub coupe , and I and I was thinking PA 16 clipper and Obviously those are different . So pH 14 . If that's what he said , that makes sense to me . I was making a case for it not making sense being a PA 16 clipper , except more like a tripacer without a More like a pacer . Yeah not a tripacer . Tail wheel , short wings , short fuselage . I .

Speaker 3

Don't know all my PAs I .

Speaker 1

G . I pride myself on knowing above average on them , but I just bought a PA 28 140 , oh Yeah . How's she looking ? I ?

Speaker 3

Not bad , i mean it's . I Came with a lot of parts and an engine , so that's good .

Speaker 1

Well , you're do you know of him , No Narrow deck or wide deck engine . You know .

Speaker 3

Okay , I don't know . I just looked at the pile of parts and the two sets of wings and two fuselages and threw him out of number .

Speaker 1

Yeah okay , cool . Yeah , feel like he did good . Yeah , get a prop .

Speaker 3

No , but whatever .

Speaker 1

Doesn't matter Yeah .

Speaker 3

I got a lot of stuff . Yeah great , i paid 9500 .

Speaker 1

so are the . Is the corrugation on the control surfaces Concave or convex ? convex or concave .

Speaker 3

I think concave and then there's some control surfaces He had that are smooth . Somebody Rescund them but reskin them smooth , So they're probably scrap metal .

Speaker 1

But yeah , yeah , unless there was like an STC , where , if you use a higher gauge because it would be less strong , yeah , it wouldn't be . A strong being smooth right like corrugation , is there for strength . Yeah so if they used a higher gate or Lower , higher thick , more thick , yeah , you know what I mean .

Speaker 3

There's a set of control surfaces that are correct . And then he bought a parts plane and that came with control surfaces and those ones were already covered smooth . So I don't know . I'll have to do some research interesting . I wonder if there's an STC . That'd be sweet if there was . Yeah , he said that they're probably only good for like a home-built Plane , but he didn't know so we mean corrugation on a control surface you know , on the pipers they're like like scalloped looking where they have like ridges in them .

Speaker 3

Yeah , the sessions have like the little ribs in them . You know , i don't know what you call them .

Speaker 1

Corrigation .

Speaker 3

Yeah , but theirs are all external .

Speaker 1

All right , Hey Barb .

Speaker 2

Barb's here . Hey , you got us .

Speaker 1

What is going on over there ?

Speaker 2

Do you have headphones ?

Speaker 1

Oh , sounds like she's printing something . Yeah , sounds like a printer .

Speaker 3

Can she hear us ? She can't hear us . Oh , audio problems . Audio , these are always fun Audio problems .

Speaker 2

The internet looks great though It does . It's faster internet than we have .

Speaker 3

Audio problems can be the death of an episode .

Speaker 2

Yes , We're going to have you come up with a podcast episode if this doesn't work . Scott , yeah .

Speaker 3

I can do that . Let's talk about automated systems .

Speaker 4

I can't hear you guys at all .

Speaker 1

Weakening you .

Speaker 4

No , I can't hear you .

Speaker 3

I'm just going to talk about automated systems . Do we need her ?

Speaker 4

That noises me , by the way .

Speaker 1

We know Yeah .

Speaker 4

It's stopping .

Speaker 1

I want to identify that sound , though That's an interesting sound .

Speaker 2

Help me They're called Barb .

Speaker 1

This is fun . So yeah , so Sesame , yeah , they have like those really sharp . Hey , the real sharp .

Speaker 2

A corrugation .

Speaker 3

We're going to have you , fine , yeah , yeah , they're like .

Speaker 4

Great , can you hear all ?

Speaker 3

that Corrugation right Yeah , i guess .

Speaker 1

I guess we'll let them do this , I guess .

Speaker 3

Sesame Allerons are always bent Where They're never perfectly straight .

Speaker 1

Huh , do you think that's because they get like hand rash Or ?

Speaker 3

what I don't know . Just every once in a while I'll get one that's completely straight . But most Sesame Allerons I've got have like a little curve to them .

Speaker 4

Yeah .

Speaker 3

I don't know , i haven't done as many pipers , but the ones that I have done have been straight .

Speaker 1

Do you think they're like G'd up or do you think it's a design on purpose ?

Speaker 3

It could be a design , but why are some of them straight and some of them ? Because those are the ones that are G'd up , could be .

Speaker 1

They got repaired and then they're like , oh , this should be straight .

Speaker 3

Yeah , i don't know .

Speaker 1

This thing handles like shit .

Speaker 3

Yeah , i don't know .

Speaker 1

Yeah , i don't know Something to think about .

Speaker 3

Yeah , i just take pictures and videos of the curve . Nobody here says anything about them .

Speaker 4

I hear you . I hear you . Maybe it's normal , i got you .

Speaker 3

I had one guy send it back and set it , So you got it now right .

Speaker 4

Yeah , okay .

Speaker 3

Perfect , Hi Barb . What's going on ?

Speaker 4

Hi , what's doing ?

Speaker 3

How's it going ?

Speaker 4

Great .

Speaker 2

You've never actually met Lee or Scott in person .

Speaker 3

No , we've had drinks out of my aunt . This is also not in person . What This ?

Speaker 2

is technically .

Speaker 4

You know what It counts enough . I was walked around on FaceTime at Precash Oh yeah , yeah , it's kind of there . Yeah , it's moving It's honorary . Yeah .

Speaker 1

We were still embracing COVID at that time , so everything was virtual .

Speaker 2

Yeah , distance attendance .

Speaker 3

We take that very seriously .

Speaker 4

Are we not live yet ? Could I print notes , or do we not do that ?

Speaker 2

We're live right now .

Speaker 4

There's only five people watching . No one's here , tyler , just under the chat , So he says good luck .

Speaker 3

I have to enter a meeting in four minutes .

Speaker 2

We'll check in later , so Tyler's not here .

Speaker 4

I'm just gonna send it out . No , no , that stinks , that's all right , he'll be back .

Speaker 1

Yeah , he can count on it . Yeah .

Speaker 4

If I mute my mic one sec can I print things . I'm very prepared .

Speaker 1

Okay , that's the first Good , i'm glad somebody is .

Speaker 3

Don't worry about muting it . Bob knows how to edit that out . I make all kinds of noises just because I know Bob can edit it out . It's fine .

Speaker 2

Yeah , that's the spirit . If you want to print a couple more things , we are welcome .

Speaker 1

I think she read between the lines there .

Speaker 2

Yeah So .

Speaker 1

I need to be here PA-12s .

Speaker 3

Yeah , i heard .

Speaker 1

PA-12s on Mac It's got the ridges .

Speaker 2

Is the corrugated That's considered corrugated .

Speaker 1

No , no , not PA-12s , those are fabric coverings . Yeah , those are fabric . That's a super cover .

Speaker 3

The PA-28 series has the Yeah , yeah , yeah , yeah , yeah , yeah , yeah , yeah , yeah , yeah . They're like dimples , are they ? are they ups , are they down ? are the innings are early ?

Speaker 1

Early models were outies . Oh , okay and that's so . You can tell the difference a lot .

Speaker 3

I'm pretty sure these are any I'm pretty sure they're any .

Speaker 1

Yeah , late models , and not that late like only like three or four years into The Cherokee they went to the concave . Yeah , corrugation . I don't know why . Maybe it was a drag reducing thing , probably we are ever .

Speaker 2

You got to point this out to me at the airport .

Speaker 1

Yeah , i guess . I mean , do we have a picture of a ? No , we don't know , i bet in here , we do I ?

Speaker 3

Don't know if it'll be close up enough for you to see it .

Speaker 1

Oh , use your imagination .

Speaker 2

Anybody in the check I have .

Aviation Conversations and Diversity

Speaker 3

Services listed on eBay with close-up pictures Boris air partscom .

Speaker 2

Yes , email doesn't work , but messaging there . Yes .

Speaker 3

The only my , the only form of communication that I will talk to anybody on his eBay messages .

Speaker 2

Send the sun's got an eBay message , i mean , if it doesn't if it doesn't pertain to something I'm selling , i'm not responding pretend like you want to buy something And then don't , unless you need it . Yeah but , yeah , I just can't picture what you guys are talking about .

Speaker 3

I could show you .

Speaker 2

I tried to . I tried to read the thesis paper .

Speaker 1

So here's a 150 that's pretty .

Speaker 2

We tried to read it .

Speaker 1

Yeah , i see that , so I feel like a dead because I should write a long time ago when you first posted it , but then I didn't because it got you know type thing . He's sent to me today And I got interrupted a bunch of .

Speaker 2

It's how the how the sesnas have the ripple E flaps and ailerons .

Speaker 1

Is that what you're talking about ? You're talking about thesis thing for her master's degree two conversations at once . I love it . I read multitasking .

Speaker 4

I definitely didn't write about Sashma and their yeah wiggly flaps . Yeah but that see see she got .

Speaker 1

See , she just got into the two conversations . I .

Speaker 2

See now the moment that was pointed out .

Speaker 3

Thing a quarter now think of the pipers .

Speaker 1

now , that's what it looks like on the inside . Yeah , we're gated .

Speaker 3

Yeah , it's core , all right . That ad cordation is not quite the same as cardboard , but it's made out of aluminum and not well .

Speaker 1

The spacing is wider .

Speaker 2

Yeah yeah , the cardboard is like somebody's grandfather invented that so Great uncle , actually great grandfather's brother .

Speaker 1

She got the shrimp divaner .

Speaker 3

Yeah , yeah , one of his brothers invented the shrimp divaner and the other one invented not cardboard , but the machine that makes cardboard , a machine that makes cardboard . So if you look up Google , the inventor of cardboard is not gonna be him .

Speaker 2

That's way less cool story .

Speaker 3

Yeah , I'm flying I was always told as a kid , did you ask everybody what they're drinking ?

Speaker 1

yet or no , no , no It's hasn't been well received .

Speaker 2

five on there , No I got Eldra to 12 year going and coke Course yeah we're drinking course .

Speaker 1

What do you have ? Barb ? That's the most important question . What are you drinking course or out Barb ? what is that ?

Speaker 4

I'm drinking rum today , Oh wow , the spirit Nice . I know it is .

Speaker 1

What ? what's the what ? what is unique about this rum that you've picked it ?

Speaker 4

It's kosher for Passover guys . Got you makes it very unique . Passover and I am . I know there are certain foods you can eat and you can't , and you can't eat . So it was either this or like fennel liquor . So we're going around tonight good for you .

Speaker 1

I like it . I've never seen that bottle before no , well , i didn't get a good tilted too , much drop .

Speaker 4

So I'd run .

Speaker 1

We're and is that readily available .

Speaker 4

Yeah , it is actually not to try it .

Speaker 2

I'll let you know if it's good Usually this is the first time you've tried it live . Taste test Yeah .

Speaker 4

Yeah . I usually I drink a different rum . It's called the kappa and it's awesome .

Speaker 2

Oh yeah , i'm the kappa 23 is one of my favorite speaking Rob's language here Yep .

Speaker 4

Nothing better than that one . This is , it's not bad . I mean , listen , it doesn't beat the kappa , but it's gonna . It's gonna work for us . Okay , it's gonna work today as it works , mm-hmm , i just wanted .

Speaker 2

I was gonna try to get some filler content . I don't know what Barb's background knowledge is uncorrigated .

Speaker 1

Anything a 12 or corrugated . We went to cardboard , so I certainly can't participate in the PA .

Speaker 4

I have zero background on corrugated anything .

Speaker 3

Yeah , you've probably used a cardboard box before .

Speaker 4

Amazon packages mainly my experience with a boiled potato chips . Oh , that's good .

Speaker 2

Extra leverage for getting . Yes , you say they are strong sour cream . And I close of the cardboard .

Speaker 1

They are less likely .

Speaker 2

What is the core .

Speaker 1

Corrigation yeah if you take a lay straight potato chip it's more likely to crack . Corrigated ruffles brand you know , scoop right in there . You can handle the load You . That's why they make the Cessna makes its control surfaces like that , so does Piper .

Speaker 2

We're reeling it in , we're reeling it in back to flying , yeah .

Speaker 1

So the corrugation adds strength to the structure without adding that much more weight , because you can also make the aluminum you're using twice as thick to net the same thing . Now you've added weight , though You've added strength without adding weight .

Speaker 3

Throughout my observations , it's much more likely to find a bent Cessna control surface than a bent Piper control surface . Really , pipers are the best . I come across a lot of bent .

Speaker 4

Because more people train in Cessnas than they do Pipers .

Speaker 3

It's possible . I don't know . I come across a lot of bent Cessna control surfaces . People are trying to do way more hardcore stuff in Cessnas .

Speaker 2

Probably More than so than Piper with the exception of the Super Cub type Pipers are obviously pretty hardcore .

Speaker 1

Pretty hardcore with archers and Cherokees .

Speaker 3

Yeah , but Lee doesn't even know his P8 number . Yeah , you got me confused .

Speaker 2

He got Ian's P8 wrong the other night It was rough .

Speaker 1

It was not rough then . I was too inebriated to even notice , and that may have played into it as well .

Speaker 3

He will go .

Speaker 1

But since then I woke up the next morning and was like I was talking about PA14 or PA16 . What did I do ?

Speaker 4

Yeah .

Speaker 1

So I mean there's that , but like so , if you have a 19,000 hour 172 and a 19,000 hour Cherokee 140 , what difference does it make ? The two examples you're looking at one's got a bent this and this doesn't have a bent this .

Speaker 3

Yeah .

Speaker 1

What does it matter with the fleet ? wide statistics bear out . You'll find you'll come across a 10,000 hour Cherokee and a 10,000 hour 150 , 172 .

Speaker 3

Yeah , the 10,000 hour Cessna is going to have bent ailerons .

Speaker 1

But will the 10,000 hour Cherokee That was the those that we need we need stats on that type of stuff . If everybody's going to say it's because Cessna is the trainer of choice for everybody .

Speaker 2

You buy way more Cessna Guys . what if they were a ?

Speaker 4

recall on Piper Wings for metal fatigue or something .

Speaker 3

That's the spar . That was a spar problem .

Speaker 1

Yeah Yeah , Embry Riddle . A nice shirt . By the way , They had an issue that the . Yeah , they were doing a check ride , So a dude in his examiner , student in their examiner . That's right , yeah , the the broke up in flight .

Speaker 3

And now there's mandatory inspections on Piper spars . It's cause they don't even have a strut Buzz it .

Speaker 2

While we're at it .

Speaker 3

The strut's missing . I have an announcement . Uh-oh .

Speaker 1

Uh-oh , we're going to cover a lot of grounds . Yeah , fire away .

Speaker 4

Get . no , it's very important that I say this in the very beginning , because you mentioned my shirt and it's . it was a conscious choice And I think that that's what you get when you have females on the show , And I think it's very important to note that I'm the first female guest on the show .

Speaker 3

Yes .

Speaker 4

And that I know .

Speaker 2

I know , i know It's very important .

Speaker 4

We should discuss it because it's a big deal .

Speaker 2

I , we usually we try not to let women on cause you know a listener reached out We may have her on the show before I'm . Just she is an attorney And I said I can't cause . I promise Ian he'd be the first attorney and I promise Barb should be the first female .

Speaker 4

No , amazing .

Speaker 2

I'm so happy that we're both we could yeah . Wow .

Speaker 1

We're so happy to have you , barb , we really are , it's fun .

Speaker 4

I'm so happy guys . It's good stuff .

Speaker 3

We're trying to we're trying to bump up our DEI numbers , so I don't know what that means .

Speaker 2

I need a beer .

Speaker 4

Diversity , equity and inclusion . I'm very impressed Scott Boris Oh at Boris Cycle .

Speaker 3

We're a very , very DEI oriented .

Speaker 2

He does HR for his company .

Speaker 3

And DEI is our business model revolves around DEI .

Speaker 4

Yes , I'm sure it does . Nicole works for you , or ?

Speaker 3

She does part time at my other job , so I guess we do have .

Speaker 2

One of the businesses .

Speaker 3

Not that way , though It counts It counts .

Speaker 4

So my first paper was on , you know , cockpit digitalization and all that . The other one was about DEI initiatives in the big three in Delta , United and American . So Excellent . That's how I know what DEI is .

Speaker 1

Well , we can do that on the next step . Next time you're on , next episode , you're on .

Speaker 4

We could , absolutely . You can read that one in advance too , and it'll be awesome .

Speaker 1

Did you put that one on pilot ground ? I don't think so . Yeah , you can just sound to me .

Speaker 4

Also , the other one's easier to read . I'm going to tell you why this one's not as easy to read . Because I did it with a group of people who are way smarter than me who , like , did all the statistics and crunched all the numbers and stuff , and the DEI one I wrote myself , so it's legible .

Speaker 1

Love it . I like it better already . Yeah , i like it better already . You should have just used chat tpt .

Speaker 3

It's really good at DEI .

Speaker 2

Yeah .

Speaker 4

I know that .

Speaker 1

So let's bring this back to the , i guess the topic at hand with the automation one on human factors , when you're working with the other individuals on the paper , i mean was there because I know they're taking statistics , they're taking ASAP , asar reports and all these flow charts and charts and all the stuff And they're trying to put it into textual and everything else When you have , i don't , i wish we were alive , well , okay .

Speaker 1

So it's like why did you not have more of a part in saying , hey , this doesn't need to sound this sciencey , this doesn't need to sound like this , so that anybody could read it . What's wrong with ?

Speaker 3

science .

Speaker 1

Well , because it's an important paper to write and it's an important topic to delve into , for sure , and the big three again , but millions , hundreds of millions of dollars into this topic .

Speaker 2

Could have been . Sponsoring the sorry podcast Could have been , i think , what we could do with that money And so like it's important that it's the subject matter is legible .

Speaker 1

Yeah , legible and able to be deciphered by the average person , I guess .

Speaker 2

So I guess where were ?

Speaker 1

you in that process .

Speaker 4

So , first of all , you can start the story right now , whatever you want .

Speaker 1

You don't even have to answer my question , No .

Speaker 4

I can answer your question . I mean , I'm probably going to forget half of it as I talk .

Speaker 1

That's all I do , but I already forgot what I asked .

Speaker 4

Exactly , forget it . You and me together would be a mess , like it was just okay . Um , a lot of talking

Research Paper Structure and Aviation Topics

Speaker 4

. So for me , my role in this paper was the literature review , so I basically went through documents on cognitive overload , on digitalized flight decks , on human error , on human factors , on like all of those elements . I researched them and I summarize them .

Speaker 1

How many ?

Speaker 4

of my area that produce .

Speaker 1

And so how many ? so you like data collection ? How would you describe that ? If you had to boil that down , you're going to give yourself a title in the project . What would that title have been ? It's not a collection , Okay .

Speaker 4

Data collection is the people who gathered all of the actual , like accident data And then like that , was that ? So when you write a research paper like a scientific study .

Speaker 2

Did we start the episode ? No , what's good ? Fine , though This is great , i was going to say we should do this After we start the episode . This will be great to come out after the episode . I'm an amour . I'm an amour . Well , i'm saying like we're going into everything .

Speaker 3

You were supposed to go on the episode , but you didn't even start the episode .

Speaker 1

I need to get 20 minutes or something . I'm completely enamored and you just interrupted by Yeah .

Speaker 2

All right , well , we'll get the actual topic .

Speaker 4

Give me a few more sips and I'll just I'll be interrupting Scott We get the actual episode , topic All right , this is fine . Fine , you know afterwards .

Speaker 3

I'm going to get a beer or whatever .

Speaker 4

Get a beer , get a beer , got some , take a break , whatever . He's not listening . We could talk about him now if we really want to , it's true . It's true .

Speaker 1

He could hear our end , though That's the difference we have , because we're all in the same room now .

Speaker 4

So he'll hear our end of it , so I can say things You can , he won't hear them . Yeah , oh , i love that .

Speaker 1

Okay no-transcript .

Speaker 4

Okay . So when you in general , like when you write a scientific research paper , whether it's you're gathering qualitative data or quantitative data , it generally follows the same structure . So you have sort of an introduction like an abstract , and then you present like a hypothesis If it's , you know , if it's quantitative , there are like hypotheses and null hypotheses and it's like a whole thing and then You basically look at so what I did was something called the literature review , which is where you look at the research that's currently out there and you summarize it and you find a hole in that research , which is where yours is gonna fit . So like I needed to make sure that all the research on cognitive overload and and Human factors and things like that , like I needed to basically give the reader background on it . Then we went through like you go through like a method section where you discuss Like how you're going to specifically Tackle the research , which was that huge flow chart that you saw , and then after that you actually crunch the numbers and then you Summarize them and all of that .

Speaker 4

So I mean I can talk about like our findings , but I can't talk . I'm not like a statistics person . Yeah , not , um , so I can most of our art .

Speaker 4

Yeah , it's not for me .

Speaker 2

Yeah , um Whatever it's for me So .

Speaker 1

I Mean most people . I mean , I don't know that I'm a statistics person or not . I'm a numbers person , so maybe I know statistics as part of that , but I don't . I never took it in like high school or anything , so I don't really know .

Speaker 4

No , no , i was gonna say I was gonna say I figured with this episode we could take time to talk about how , because I've been through private pilot training and I have my AGI , so I know what it's like to be able , like to have to instruct people so that now they get their license and whatever .

Speaker 4

Like we never touched on Specifically with situational awareness is or like cognitive workload and overload or human factors like memory fatigue , ergonomics and how that goes into like the design of a cockpit or cognitive Distortions doesn't get , or I'm not cognitive search , i'm sorry , the singular illusions and things don't get touched till instrument , but it's , it's important to know , like for nighttime , for in general things like that . And so those were the areas that I researched from my paper . So even if we spent the time just discussing those things and like Helping gent , like GA pilots understand those things better , like I looked at them in the in the terms of commercial , commercial , because I got my graduate certificate in aeronautics and that was like what we covered , but it I think it's just a very , it's very interesting and pretty necessary for private pilots to know .

Speaker 4

Yeah , absolutely like you want to talk numbers , we can . But like we put it into an app and some B22 pilot handled it for us .

Speaker 3

So how long before I don't have to do anything ?

Speaker 2

Let's let's wait till we get an episode for that . I'm trying to parse . What should we start ? how should I introduce this episode ? because you you've got a train of thought about to go right now . We can just jump off of that and see where it goes .

Speaker 4

But so I can say that train of thought or mine yours , yours Way , way better , i'm sure .

Speaker 3

My thought train is very focused or we can or we can kick it off like that .

Speaker 2

Scott can . Yeah , it's got . You can do the intro .

Speaker 3

I have a great train of thought .

Speaker 2

Why don't you do the intro and introduce ? like a freight train first , first female Episode guest .

Speaker 4

No , i don't know I can't feed him anything . I want to hear what he's gonna say .

Speaker 3

I think she , i think she's introduced herself . Absolutely not , i'm not , i'm not good at this .

Speaker 2

I can say masters , right , that's what I do . I have okay . Oh , so I have to .

Speaker 4

I know it's it mean you could , but it's , it's a graduate certificate , it's called . I do have a masters in teaching literacy .

Speaker 1

Okay so oh Well , that plays into your role in the Research .

Speaker 4

Oh yeah , i know , no , not really the teaching literacy part , like I teach kids how to read , like that .

Speaker 1

and then the Scott I can read it's not , it's not the reading , it's the , it's the reading .

Speaker 2

and then Talking , talking out It's , it's the talking , it's hard .

Speaker 3

It's the visual to mouth thing that I like . If I'm just reading It's , i can read real quick , but you know .

Speaker 4

All right , it's the expressive language . I can cover it if you want .

Speaker 3

It's gonna wing it , cuz my brain is so big that it it can't really . If this doesn't work , the same as other people's brains , You know .

Speaker 2

That's why I started doing at the ENF .

Speaker 4

I just keep hitting it until like .

Speaker 3

You could just make a little clip of me talking about how big my brain is .

Distractions During Online Chat

Speaker 4

Wait , I can't see the chat . Should I be able to ?

Speaker 1

Nobody's in it . It might be nice , but it could be distracting . There's 12 people watching , nobody's active .

Speaker 2

Nobody's active in the chat , it's always just . You'd pull Yeah . I do know rebel comm slash far aim on your phone and then see it there , i'm not doing that .

Speaker 4

Yeah , my notes on my phone , the printer , the ink .

Speaker 1

I have to change it . I'm all jammed up . Get distracted . Just focus on us .

Speaker 2

You'll be in the game than we are All right . We knew that that was gonna happen , regardless of the situation , though , but