Indulging in Cuckolding as a Solo Cuck - The Right Way

Most people treat cuckolding like it only “belongs” to long-term couples, and if you’re single you’re supposed to stay in fantasy, keep quiet, and just consume content online. I don’t buy that! I’m Venus, and I’m joined by Sergio to talk about the questions solo cucks should be considering: where do we fit in, and how do we explore cuckolding ethically without coming off creepy, entitled, or self-centered?

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Transcript

Welcome And Solo Cuckolding Setup

SPEAKER_01 0:45

This is the Venus Cuckolders Podcast, a place to learn all things cuckolding for the curious, for the passionate, and for the sexually empowered woman who wants it all. Let's go. Welcome to the show. I'm your host, Venus. Thanks for joining me today. And today's topic is a really interesting one that I have not explored very much on this show before. And I think that many of you listening will be able to relate to this. So cuckolding, I've been saying for a long time, is very much a privilege for couples. It's nearly always originates within a couple that's already been together for a long time, probably married, and they decide one day, usually he brings it up to her, and they decide that they're gonna go down this cuckolding journey road together. And that's kind of like how it starts. It's highly unusual and very rare for solo people to really explore in this lifestyle, in the cuckolding lifestyle. Um, so it could be somebody who's single, who's looking for a partner uh for this kind of relationship, or maybe someone like myself who's had this kind of relationship before but lost it or it ended for whatever reason, um, or what if for whatever reason, it could be a solo person um who is looking for this kind of relationship. It is very rare. And so what I'm gonna be talking about is where do the solo people fit in in this lifestyle, in this community? And do we belong? And if we belong, how do we go about navigating our way through this lifestyle in trying to have some experiences? So I have my guest, Sergio, who's gonna be talking about how he has navigated his solo journey so far in the cuckolding lifestyle. And I think it's really, really interesting, and he has some excellent advice on how to explore cuckolding when you're solo, as a guy, as a solo cuck, and how to go about doing that in the right way. And I'm not talking about like role play sessions with uh dominatrixes or you know, sex workers or whatever. I'm talking about like these are opportunities for experience with people who are willing to, you know, play a scene and switch a role and try something out, and couples who want to indulge in, you know, what turns you on and you for them, and and it be a really cooperative thing. So this is an opportunity for you to really understand. If you, if this is something that you know you want to learn about, this is your opportunity to learn about what are your options, how do you go about doing all of this, and especially without coming across as creepy or self-centered. So I think you're really gonna love this episode with Sergio. And before we get started, I just have one little announcement, and that's an event that's gonna be coming up in June. It's a pillow talk event, so it's gonna be a live chat in the Queen's Quarters, and my friend Sergio is gonna be joining me. So we're gonna be talking about this episode, and he'll be there to answer all of your questions or if you have some comments about the show. Make sure you join in. It's going to be June 4th at 1 p.m. Pacific time. That's 5 p.m. Eastern. Free to join live in the Queen's Quarters community. Just sign up for the Queen's Quarters community at VenusCockledris.com. All right, that's it for announcements. Let's jump into the show. Joining me on the show, I have my friend Sergio, who is in my Helpful Cut group. He's been in my Helpful Cut group for a couple of years, and I'm really excited to have him share his story on the show today. Welcome to the show, Sergio. Say hello to all the listeners.

SPEAKER_00 5:07

Hey, Venus. Thank you for having me. It's great to be here.

SPEAKER_01 5:11

Yeah, and I'm happy to have you share your story because it's, I think it's only been one time I've actually talked about this subject on the show before. Um, and this is all about like the fact that um sometimes for some people, how they interact and how they're involved in this uh lifestyle is solo. And I'm not talking about bulls, I'm talking about cucks. Uh, and so you are one of those people who has had uh an interest in cuckolding. And what I find is so cool is that you've actually found a pathway into this lifestyle without being coupled in a romantic relationship with a woman. So this is fascinating because and I love hearing your stories all the time because like I'm just like, yay, I'm your biggest fan, because I think it's just like so cool that you're able to do that. So sharing this story, there's gonna be people listening that are gonna be like, huh, never thought about it that way. Maybe I could do that too, or could give that a try, and that might be fun. But before we dive into all of that, of what you're doing right now and how you're living in this lifestyle, um, I want to ask you about your story, about how you came into this interest, these desires of cuckolding, where did they come from? How old were you? What was that like for you? And I'm assuming it's been a bit of an evolving journey. So, do you want to start to start this off by sharing a little bit about your story?

SPEAKER_00 6:43

Yeah, of course. So uh my interest probably starts several years ago. Um originally it developed from an interest in femdom and chastity, which are still important parts of it. But over time, you know, reading stories like uh Erataka Online and watching Born, it became a I became aware of golding, and then over time it's become really the most important part of how I engage with sexuality and kink. And I think a big part of that is because it taps into such powerful emotions and such powerful uh psychology that I find really interesting to explore. So uh when I discovered it, it was originally kind of sol the solitary, you know, consuming material, you know, like you know, uh particularly uh erotica about this, but then over time I thought I actually want to immerse myself in this and explore it for real. And so I built up the courage, and then eventually I joined you know Venus, the the Venus organization, uh and as a as a cu a helpful cog. And I haven't looked back really, it's been fantastic, and you know, getting to know you and the others and then exploring this and chatting about it, sharing stories, uh it's been really fulfilling and really liberating. And I think a big part of how I've been able to explore uh being a like a solo and pla and meeting all these people, these new people in person where I live, has been yeah, it's been a real journey of discovery and it's been a real uh area of growth for me and tackling, you know, uh maybe issues I'd I'd wanted to uh to challenge and to uh to to find find out who I am and to be courageous and seek new connection and yeah, challenge orthodoxy, and it's been really helpful for me. So I uh yeah, I'm very grateful to be here to talk about it and yeah, I'd love to share some of the stories, some of the fun adventures I've had, and see yeah how I got into them, and maybe other people can draw something from that.

SPEAKER_01 8:51

So you were online and you were reading uh Literature and you were you came across these cuckle fantasies. Was it something that just like sparked this like deep desire within you? And were you kind of like shocked by it, or were you just like, oh wow, this is awesome?

SPEAKER_00 9:08

Yeah, I was shocked. I was uh overpowered. I felt almost like yeah, full of energy sometimes. It was so powerful. This feeling of and I was meant to be studying at the time sometimes. I was meant to be, it was during COVID often, or before and after, and I just felt this such an overwhelming power. And since then it's kind of it's developed now, it's more uh it's more it's calmer now, but it still is interesting. Yeah, but I feel that it is a an area of real fascination for me. Yeah, so yeah, I uh yeah, I can't really imagine my life without it now.

From Online Fantasies To Real Life

SPEAKER_01 9:45

It's so interesting. Uh, over the last 11 years, I've you know, noticed that like there's a ton of guys reading up on posting things, reading things online in the corners of the internet that talk about cuckolding. Um, and just doing like I swear to God, there's probably like millions of guys out there that have like the equivalent of a PhD in cuckolding because of all the stuff you guys are reading about, consuming and looking up and asking all these questions, and like it just it's like it's like a fucking sport, this learning about cuckolding, all these guys online. And I wonder if some of that uh has to do with just not a lot of opportunity to talk to other people in their life about it, but so they go turn to online and and kind of like really dive headfirst into all of the the cuckolding stuff that's on there. But I don't know, the ladies are really not on there. The ladies are not on there doing the same thing, but I find it so fascinating because that is like a an opportunity for for a lot of these guys to like have that little switch flipped in their brain where they're like, oh my god, this is so hot. Like, oh, this is amazing. But most guys just stay there, like most guys just stay there online, consuming the stuff, and that's it. There's very few that I think I think very few that will actually be like, no, I actually want more out of this. Like, I do want to, like you said, fully immerse yourself in this and like really kind of take it to the next level and try to have these in-person kind of experiences. What was it that made you want to do that? Because you you mentioned the word bravery or courage, like that is pretty courageous.

SPEAKER_00 11:38

I think, I mean, I would say that regarding the the erotica, the written erotica, I think the consum primary consumers are men, although maybe you know there is so much smart for women now that I think that may be changing. Oh, yeah. But I found that but I found the best authors of this have been many of them women, like the best uh collection of erotica I've ever read that really tapped into some very interesting male fantasies and from the perspective of a male, but written by a woman, and they were so fascinating to me, and they were so interesting psychologically and even anatomically, they they kind of didn't make sense, but they were so much harder because of that. And I feel that the the male uh I don't think being a male that necessarily the males have the best insight always sometimes into the uh what makes the sex or uh sensuality, sexuality really powerful. Yeah but uh I feel that maybe changing and I feel like I find the the stories and the uh the the the dynamics I'm really interested in play with lots of different kind of narratives and structures. So I yeah, I've so I guess because there was there is good stuff online, but a lot of it is quite samey and quite predictable. So I felt that because I was aware of this was a real thing and that the fact that I'd been fantasizing about this and other things like FemDon for so long and was getting older and never really experienced it, I thought it was worth trying because you know life is short, and it felt like, especially during COVID and lockdown, it felt like this sort of stuff might go away for good, and I'd missed it. So I felt that I should once it opened up again, I was thinking I was on field, and then I was reestablished on Fet Life, and I felt like I moved to a new place, and I felt that right, time to go, let's do this. And it was really liberating.

SPEAKER_01 13:33

I love that.

SPEAKER_00 13:34

Yeah, I mean it feels to me like a different part of my personality has emerged, and it's not the entirety of what I'm attending sexually. I think it's one of many uh spices you can cook with, and it's a uh something you can explore. I don't think it's the only way to you know feel about feel about sexuality, to indul engage in sexuality, but it is an interesting one to play with, and I feel that you know on your show you've spoken to so many people who come at it from different directions, you know, very different directions. Some have you know long-term, some people indulge in it for a bit. Um, but for me it's been an interesting one, and definitely I feel it has helped me evolve as a person and yeah, confront lots of things. So I feel that part of it came out of COVID, but also part of it came out of longer term longer term feelings about myself and challenging you know, where you think you are. It it involves a degree of humility, you know, humiliation involves humility, and this lifestyle involves you know taking on very sometimes very difficult concepts about yourself and challenging them, indulging in them, seeing how it works in a safe way. But yeah, I I don't look I don't regret it, though sometimes it's been challenging.

SPEAKER_01 14:52

Yeah, I bet.

SPEAKER_00 14:54

And I think especially because there's this community and slowly but surely there's emerging I think all of the discussion about polyamory, though I'm not polyamorous, I think opening up ideas about what a relationship can look like. And I think there are all sorts of sexualities and relationships that can work. And I think cuckolding is something that I think it's definitely now. I mean, you see all these cuck chair memes, like it's kind of part of a vernacular, and I I feel like that's a growing awareness of the fact that this is something that people engage in. Maybe mo maybe many people would like to engage in, but it's you know, sometimes the joke comes first and the reality comes later. Many is true words are spoken in jest, and I feel like those are those are reflecting of a fact of life that people are interested in this. Yeah. And maybe they they feel more comfortable sharing a joke or a meme about it, and as a way of raising a flag, a trial balloon, and saying, you know, this might be something I'd like to explore in the future.

SPEAKER_01 15:57

Those cuck chair videos on social media are hilarious, and they get like 40,000 views or something. Like it's insane. Like people obviously love the whole cuck chair thing going on, and it has become like a really funny thing that like everyone's just like, yeah, that's funny, or whatever.

SPEAKER_00 16:15

I can't see it, I can't see a chair in a hotel room now without laughing about it. Like everyone now, that's the the word now for a chair in a hotel room, which once you'd have just put your clothes on or put your bag on. Now, amongst many people I know, and generally across the internet, that's the all-purpose name for it now, which I think is so funny, and it reflects something that like everyone's seen it for decades, but now it's got a name, and it comes into this. And I think it reflects the fact that cuck was a term that came out, it's been around forever, but it's kind of emerged out of you know, it's been like a political uh insult use of insult and as a term of kind of abuse, but also now it has this humorous inversion of it where people are talking about furniture with this.

SPEAKER_01 17:02

I know Webster's dictionary really needs to put cuck chair as an addition.

SPEAKER_00 17:08

It'll be coming, I'm sure. I'm sure when they're redecorating hotels, that'll become the uh general purpose name for it.

Labels And Gatekeeping In Cuckolding

SPEAKER_01 17:14

So funny. Um, but I wanted to like for for a long time now, I've been saying that like cuckolding is a privilege for couples. And when I what I mean by that for everybody listening is that, you know, pretty much all the time when you hear about cuckolding, we're talking about a couple that's been together for a long time, probably married, uh, long-term relationship. Then at some point he brought it up to her and they decided to go down the cuck road together. That that this is very stereotypical of the cuckolding that we're that uh we talk about. Um but the the solo people, either people like myself who've had this kind of relationship before and and lost it, and or the uh the people who are single but know that this is the what would suit them, this these are their desires, they're kind of like left to the side of the conversation, like completely left out, or or I will say more often than not, judged. Um, and I I I have to admit that I did this when I first was podcasting, when I was first blogging about cuckolding, and when I was learning about cuckolding, the habit is to try to get really into the definitions of the labels. And in doing that, you kind of like, okay, well, this is what real cuckolding is, and this over here doesn't fit that definition, so therefore it's not real. That's not the real thing. And then in doing that, I was like basically excluding a bunch of other people and the validity of their of their relationships or their experiences or their interests or what desires and stuff like that. And I'm embarrassed that I did that. It is a bit of a trap that people fall into when they're trying to understand something, is to get really hyper-fixated around the labels of things. Um, but and it's annoying because like I've had people say to me, Well, you know, Venus, you're not married. You can't call yourself a cuckoldress. And I'm like, shut the fuck up and eat a bag of dicks. Like, go away. I can really fuck what you think right now, right? But the same is also said often about single guys, single cucks. So you can't call yourself a cuck because you've never watched your girlfriend or wife have sex with somebody else. And I'm like, what? Like, this just seems so stupid. Like, what the fuck? Why are we just so obsessed over this fucking thing? Like, was that something where people were like, well, I don't know, did they question the validity of your interest because you were solo or anything like that? Or was there any kind of like negative impact of being a solo guy when you were like, okay, I want to try to go to these events?

SPEAKER_00 20:07

Yeah, it's required more explanation, I think.

unknown 20:10

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 20:10

Um, it hasn't been uh necessarily a problem because I explain it, and if people don't understand it or we don't go any further, but it's definitely required more uh detail and explanation about what exactly is going on and what I'm seeking from this. Um but yes, I think that the talk about definitions is interesting because words like stag and hot wife and cock and cock holder us are kind of used imprecisely, and I feel that you know I was talking to someone about this and they think, oh, well, you're more of a stag or cock. And I was like, well, these are definitions that are imprecise because some people don't want to apply a label because as we're saying, it has this derogatory uh connotation, but also some don't mind. So there's you're not always entirely sure what people are referring to when they're using these terms. But I found that in general people have been very accepting of it when I've explained what it is I want and or I'm seeking, and because I'm playing with couples sometimes and we're we're doing role play, or I've been doing it with people I meet and we're role-playing uh you know, one individual with another. Sometimes I'm playing with a couple and I'm playing uh the cuck, and the boy the real boyfriend is playing the bull, which is like a very funny inversion that I enjoy playing with, and the couple enjoys playing with. And sometimes it's with someone who is uh also, you know, like a uh a solo partner. I'm bisexual, but some uh I play primarily with with uh women, but I enjoy the forced by aspect of it, which is a big part of it sometimes. Uh but yeah, it has it has definitely required some uh patience and some uh explanation of what what I like. But in general I found, and this is the case more generally with this, is that when people understand what you're come where you're coming from and what you're you're seeking, I feel like most people most of the time can understand will hear out and listen to what you're saying and are happy to do so. In fact, a lot of people who you know they're surprised by it, and I think a lot of them find themselves interested in it, that this is a thing that someone can do. So I do feel that yeah, that there's really much more to gain and lose by trying out new things and not letting labels define what you're doing. I think there's this sort of this gatekeeping thing, which I do understand the use of it. You know, you need labels to mean something, and it's good for to be able to explain what you are in terms of words, you know, and to be able to give a shorthand. But also I think there are people That defy those labels, and you and I are kind of part of those. Um, so I feel that many people who listen to this show, maybe people who are like me who are once wannabe Cox and then, you know, have dipped their toe in it perhaps, but would like to do more. And I think there is a real space for this. Lots of people are interested in this, lots more people would be willing to try it, even temporarily, and you can have some really great times. It takes work, but all good things take work.

Building Trust Without Being Creepy

SPEAKER_01 23:13

Yeah. Well, this is the fascinating part for me because oh, have I ever been contacted by single cucks over the years? Like, um, I have, I mean, it's absolutely in the thousands of DMs messages that I have had from single cucks, wannabe cucks, along along the year, the last decade, um, who let's say they've been consuming all of the stuff online about cuckolding. They're like, oh my God, this turns me on so much. I've been wanking my wiener to this for fucking all weekend. I really want to make this happen. And then so they just don't know where to go or what to do. And their first idea is, oh, I'm going to go on to Fet Life. I'm going to message this check. And it says the message says, I want you to cuck me. Will you cuck me? Will you please cuck? I really want to be your cuckled. And that's it. And it's like that times, you know, thousands. And I feel like that, at least for me, has been highly unsuccessful for these guys. Um completely like no interest whatsoever in entertaining those messages. Um, not just because like it's lame, but like it, it it when it's in the thousands, it's like really like stupid. Um, but you did something different. You obviously didn't decide to go down that road and just be like, well, you cock me to like random women. How did you go about doing this where you were like, okay, I really I want to have some experiences, how do I do this?

SPEAKER_00 24:54

I think doing it in seeking smaller numbers of people who really might be interested, and then not being anonymous, you have to go and meet people in person. Well, and you you can find events online, but I think if you're gonna talk about doing this thing, which is a highly emotionally charged and involves a lot of trust, mutual trust between all parties, you can't just expect someone to to send them a message and it to come like this. This is something where you have to build a real uh some form of relationship, even though you're not gonna be in a necessarily uh uh an intimate partner relationship, but you have to build a relationship of sorts, and that involves really like spending time getting to know them. So if you're sending anonymous messages, I'm it may work for some guys, but I realized pretty early on that that was gonna be not something I'm interested in doing, and it was gonna be counterproductive. So I feel like really the best way to do it is like any other thing, just build it brick by brick, and you go and you go and find like-minded people, you talk about these things, you spend time doing it. Some of it may feel wasted, but you do these things and you will find people who may be interested in this, and you have to think about what you're offering them as well. Like it isn't about just me, me, me. Like, are they gonna find something? Are they gonna take something from this as well? If not, you have to reconsider and think, am I being too selfish? And the best way to get people on board with this, I think, is to think about what you are offering each other, and that really is the area I've focused on. And as a result, I've met some great people and we've become friends. That we this is part of our thing that we do, but it's not the entirety of it, and I think that makes it all the stronger. And in fact, yeah, I mean, the one lot of people I'd played with, we haven't played in a while, they've had other things going on in their life, uh, but we still see each other in in a social setting, but what we shared at the moment will have to will have to stop. We'll come back to it another time, but you know, their life's taken over. But I think the thing is that because there's a an area of trust and friendship in the in there, yeah, we can we can explore these things. And in fact, we have explored it, you know, in a in a very public setting, which was fantastic and it was really special for all of us. We we we yeah, we still celebrate it. But I feel like if you're not putting the time into building those relationships, I don't think you can really take part in this. I think you have to put yourself out there and risk some uh some failure.

SPEAKER_01 27:27

Okay, yeah, the risk, because I would say that a lot of people, men and women, are not we are more accustomed to just sending random DMs online that uh than actually going out in person and speaking to actually actual human beings. Um how did where did you go? Are you talking about like FETLife munches or is this like femdom events that you signed up for? Like how do you go when you go from just simply being online to meeting people in person?

Real Scene Examples And Role Switching

SPEAKER_00 28:02

Yeah, I mean both. I think I go to Femdom events, I go to local kink events, I uh when I go when I meet people, I talk to them about what they do, and then you know, there's such a sharing of information, and you're not going to do this just on yourself by yourself, you know, talking to others, communicating with others about good things, what you found helpful, what you've not found helpful. And then you build a network of people you're interested in um and who have shared interests. And you know, oftentimes these are things that develop over time. You know, this has taken me several years to kind of build into this, and it's been you know a a development. Um and I think being part of your helpful cuck thing has been really great because you know, I've we've got all over the, you know, all over the world there are people who are talking about this, and you know, you're a facilitator, facilitator of it, a great encourager of this. Um and you love you know hearing the stories and talking to us. So I feel that you know I it takes a lot of uh uh energy to do this, but you're not alone, and I feel that that's a big part of it is that when you're solitary and you are just masturbating to this, it f it is very you know self-evolved. Whereas I feel like it needn't be. And you know, any everything is made better by community. This is a collective endeavor. I really think getting out there and doing things, going to events that maybe you they may not seem the most uh fruitful initially, but I've always met interesting people as I've gone, and I think showing interest in others is really a big part of it, seeing where they're coming from and seeing what else you could provide for them. I think in a way, like the solo cuck is a little bit like the bull in that you are acting as a third in the relationship in a s in an unusual way, in a like a slightly out of uh character way. You know, you're you're changing the dynamic slightly, but I have found it's something that couples are really keen to understand uh and and and play with. So yeah, you are kind of pitching to other people as well. You know, you have to you have to try and think about what you're offering to them, not just what they're giving, gonna give to you. And I feel like if you can get into that kind of mindset, you're gonna have a much better experience.

SPEAKER_01 30:53

For everybody listening to this episode right now, I hope that's the biggest takeaway that you have from the show today. Exactly what you just said, Sergio. I think that's so, so important. So let's just amplify that. But um, okay, let's jump into what sorts of scenarios these are that you've been able to find, these experiences, these opportunities. We talked about scenes, you mentioned couples and um like role play kind of stuff. Like, what exactly does this look like for you when you go and have these experiences?

SPEAKER_00 31:29

I mean, a variety of things. I mean, the the one I was just referring to was something I arranged with friends who were uh I go to parties sometimes and people play publicly. We talked about doing something and we got to know each other, and then they were interested in a kind of breeding, like a breeding kink thing.

SPEAKER_01 31:47

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 31:48

And they were saying like this could be an interesting way of playing with it. Of the boyfriends and the girlfriend in this in this couple wanted me to be in this scene, the boyfriend who was infertile, and the real boyfriend was going to play the bull who came in, and we were massaging her, and then they take over, and I fluff the boyfriend, and then get him ready for her, get her ready, and then they couple up, and then I'm there watching, and it's an incredibly hot fantasy. And I got to live it out with them, and we had such an amazing time, and it was such a fun, cheeky way of playing with it. And at first it felt a little awkward because it is this very artificial scene, yeah, but we all got really into it, and it became something, yeah, really erotic, really funny, kind of cheeky. They were both really funny people, uh, very close. It the you know, they have a really strong relationship, and there was a lot of mutual care and understanding, both before and afterwards, that made it feel really safe. You know, even in the public setting, we were playing in front of many, many people who were also doing their own thing. But it always felt fun, you know, it had this real fun energy to it, which I feel like is why I want have wanted to do it again, you know, and and play in other ways and have done so now. Uh, because it yeah, you you start with these experiences, you build them from a foundation of trust and good humor, and then you know, they develop into something lovely. But yeah, I I I'm really grateful that they, you know, we talked about it and went forward with it because it was a bit of a leap of faith. They, you know, they took a chance on it and it's it paid off for all of us, so it's really great.

SPEAKER_01 33:26

Oh, I can see how that would be awkward, but to balance off the awkwardness having the humor and the playfulness and the creativity part around it, like being so important because it would feel performative, and in order for it to not feel performative in a bad way, you'd have to like make it fun.

SPEAKER_00 33:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 33:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 33:46

I mean, at first it was like the dial we were kind of trying to do dialogue, but it felt too like bad porto script-y, so we just dropped that and played, you know, did it separate, you know, changed the direction of the scene. So yeah, it was a kind of improvisation. Uh, and it was, you know, you're just playing together. Play is a good word for it. You're you know, the rules are changeable. If if if something doesn't feel right, you can change that as long as it's working within a framework of you know safety and and consent and respect. But uh yeah, I think because they change roles and they explore lots of different dynamics, it didn't feel unusual to them and it didn't feel unusual to me. Right. But yeah, it's one of many ways I've played. Sometimes I've played with individuals, you know, solo, and we've been doing fantasy play either individually or remotely. But those take on different uh directions as well.

SPEAKER_01 34:38

Huh. So how often are you going and having these in-person experiences?

The Psychology And Emotional Risk

SPEAKER_00 34:45

Not often enough. I would like it to be more, but as I said, you know, the for it to be really special and for people to understand, I think so much of this is psychological. Yeah. This is a kink that is really in my perspective, is about playing with emotion. And yes, there's a sexual component to it, but it's about emotion and about uh kind of challenging dynamics, you know, you're challenging stereotypes, you know. This is a thing where you're deliberately uh taking a back seat, a cucks, a cuck chair from this thing, uh, you know, from a normal relationship, and then in this uh doing it as a solo individual, you're then changing it further. So I feel like to do those, it's quite a niche within niche that I'm engaging in. So I feel like you have to develop those things, you have to find the right people to do it. And I do have uh an event coming up where I'm gonna be playing with another group of people or couple and then an extra group of people. And we I feel that's gonna be really great because again, it's this real mutual understanding of what we're looking for, and they like the very many of the same things that I do, and because you know, for many of them, switching role from being like a husband or a boyfriend who's interested in this, but they may have the desire to change uh the role they play, you know, they want to play a more dominant role for a change. That this offers them that within their own relationship. So that is kind of how I've been pitching it and how I've been uh able to find things is that you find individuals and couples who want to maybe explore different roles.

SPEAKER_01 36:24

Right.

SPEAKER_00 36:25

Um yeah. I mean, it's been great fun, but it takes time, and that is uh kind of what makes it fun as well. That you know, this isn't immediate. You know, there's a a degree of long buildup that makes it all the better, in my opinion.

SPEAKER_01 36:38

Right. Um, you talked a little bit about like the psychological aspect of this uh of the cuckolding desires. Where does it land for you in your mind? Like is and I'm asking this because I know that for some people this is about conversions, some people about this is about eroticizing uh jealousy. For some people, it's about the erotic humiliation. And I don't know, for some people, maybe this is about really a way to cope with some sort of trauma. Um and where does it, where is it, what is it for you? And is it does it always come from a healthy place, do you feel like, or does it sometimes feel like this could border on something really uncomfortable?

SPEAKER_00 37:28

I think it can be all of those things. I think it can be composion, I think it can be dealing with uh emotions, I think it can be, yeah, everything and more. Um, I feel like for me it tends towards more of the uh exploring like themes within you know, psychological themes that you wrestle with, but I am very aware of the way in which it can be, you know, these are often very powerful emotions one's playing with. So I do think it's good to find people who are able to moderate it and you know, understand those things and when to step in, when to stem back. So, yes, I think that it can be a way of avoiding or eroticizing powerful emotions in a way that may be unhealthy. And that is something I am trying to continually reassess, and I think is good for everyone to reassess. But in my opinion, it is something that has been positive so far. These may change. It is something where, if as a solo, you know, I'm taking on some somewhat less of the risk because I'm not in these relationships, these are things that I play with temporarily. Yeah. But whether that would be the s would still be the case, were I in a relationship and entering the the more quote unquote traditional carcolding relationship, if such a thing can be said to exist, then maybe that would change. Uh, but as far as I know, and the the direction I'd like to travel in is the kind of light-hearted, fun, uh kind of cheeky area of it, and then sometimes occasional journeys into the more dark and heavy and maybe a little bit more emotionally humiliating or difficult stuff. But I feel like the lightness of it, the kind of winking slide bit of it is a healthier bit to be in for me at the moment.

SPEAKER_01 39:13

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 39:14

I would like to sometimes uh explore that, and certainly in fantasy it's a great thing to explore. But whether it's something that I'm keen to explore all the time, I suspect not.

SPEAKER_01 39:25

Are you like, are you dating? Are you trying to find a woman who wants this kind of relationship with you, or is that something that you're not interested in?

SPEAKER_00 39:37

It is longer term, and I am vaguely interested in it. I do when I have kind of casual, I'm sort of casually uh meeting people, having relationships, you know, short-term uh flings and relationships, but in general, I kind of keep the two things separate, and maybe in time I'll bring them together. I'm always like honest about that I I am interested in this thing, so I I don't think it's good to spring one's sexuality too soon or too late on someone. I think it reli it it requires judgment. But uh yeah, I would like to eventually uh have a like a relationship that involves this uh for real. But at the moment this is a good uh this is a good middle point for me.

SPEAKER_01 40:22

Yeah. Um I I wanted to ask about uh a tattoo that you got not so long ago. Is it true? You got a cup tattoo.

SPEAKER_00 40:34

Well, I think I may be one of the guys who one of four guys who in the Dublin Venus trip, uh, we decided that there needed to be a little memento of this. And so we thought, well, the horns is too obvious, and there needed to be something a little bit more uh cheeky, a little bit more hidden, maybe a little bit more ambiguous. And so you've hinted at this owl, this owl, the horned owl, as a kind of night watcher, uh always watching at night. And so we found a little cute owl, black and white owl. Uh and we yeah, pretty much the sec the next day we all went to this tattoo place uh in Dublin, and we chose different body parts. Mine is quite well hidden, so it doesn't come out unless it has to come out. Um, but yeah, it's this cute little owl. And for us, it's kind of a little uh yeah, memory of a very fun, kind of silly time we spent together. Uh quite special, and it's kind of wacky. I enjoy the fact that you know no one else would know about what this is for. And I mean, some some of our group were heavily tattooed. This was my first tattoo, so it and it means a lot. And it's in a uh yeah, it was a great time. I I remember it really fondly. Um, I would think about having another one done, maybe you know of a similar nature. Uh, but yeah, maybe maybe we could that could be the next meetup.

SPEAKER_01 42:08

For those of you listening, uh the I last year did a couple of meet and greets and in Europe, so London and Dublin. And um, yeah, a bunch of the helpful cucks from the helpful cuck group. Um we uh all met up in, and they were from all over the world. Uh we met up in Dublin, and yeah, that was such a fun, fun thing. But yeah, for four of them to get owl matching owl tattoos was pretty fucking amazing. So good for you, Sergio, for doing that.

SPEAKER_00 42:38

Yeah, I mean, I I love it. I mean, I don't regret it at all. It was so much fun, and uh occasionally friends like ask about it, and you know, we talk about tattoos, and I say, like, okay, I've got one, you know, and and it is quite an intimate area it's in, so it does require, you know, yeah, you know them pretty well for them to see it. Yeah. Uh but yeah, it it's fantastic. And I like the idea that it's our own thing, it's a mark of uh, you know, within this this group, you know, people are in the know know what it is. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 43:07

Um, yeah.

unknown 43:09

Yeah.

Community Benefits Plus How To Join

SPEAKER_01 43:09

Yeah. I have uh my I have a line of Venus clothing um on maisondenege uh.com and um and she incorporated the owl with the crown and hearts and other symbolism um that was important to me. But yeah, it was her that uh the owner Skylar who it was, she talked about like how um she thought you know the owl would be like the perfect cuck symbol because it's always watching at night. And I was like, oh my god, that is so perfect. Like I fucking love that so much. So that's kind of where it came from. But yeah, now I wonder if anyone else has got an owl tattoo. Because I there have been some people online who were who are asking about like which which design was it? So I posted it on my um blue sky account, but yeah, it was that was so fun. I wanted to ask you um before we wrap this up. Um, we mentioned you mentioned earlier about being in the helpful cuck group. You've been a member of my helpful cuck supporter tier for I think like a couple of years now. What's that been like for you? Has it been a good time?

SPEAKER_00 44:16

Yeah, I mean, it's the best. It's so much fun. I mean, we we meet up, there's the like live hangouts, there are all the events, there's the one-on-ones. It yeah, it's fantastic. I mean, it's a real laugh, and you get a real sense of like of community. And yeah, there are there are in-jerkes. There's the there's the Snapchat group, which is really funny. And yeah, there are lots of laughs. So I I feel that, yeah, I mean, it's been I don't think I'd have done what I've done, you know, and taken the sort of the leaps I've done if it wasn't the idea that there was some sort of, you know, I want to be able to share like the fun things I've been doing and hear what other people have been doing. Yeah. So yeah, it for me it's been you know something I've dropped in and out of, and when I've been, you know, more have more time, I've been more involved, and sometimes you you know you're you're not in every week. But it's amazing, it's so much fun, and it's it's uh you know, it's another aspect of you know your life that you could do. I don't tell lots of people about it, but again, it's this little this group. We have. And yeah, it's amazing. What you've created is is really funny. Um, you know, it's it's it's a place for us as people who have this unusual uh relationship dynamic and desire to kind of get together and talk about it, which is doesn't really exist in many other places. I think it's quite unique.

Wrap-Up And Where To Find Venus

SPEAKER_01 45:38

Yeah, and it seems like you guys are all friends, which is so cool. There's people been people in that group for years and years and years, and everybody gets along. It's like such a fun little group, and you guys are like all friends. I love it. And you're all very helpful for me. Which is the point.

SPEAKER_00 45:55

We try our best. We try, we do our best. Uh yeah, it's great. I mean, join up today. It's fantastic. Well worth the money.

SPEAKER_01 46:04

All right. Um, Sergio, I just want to say a big thank you for coming on the show and sh and sharing your story. I absolutely love this story. I hope that there's a lot that people are gonna uh take away from this and learn from you and find it inspiring. So thank you so much for coming on the show and sharing your story.

SPEAKER_00 46:23

Thank you so much, Venus. Thanks for having me.

SPEAKER_01 46:28

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