Rome is one of the world's most iconic cities. 

A city of nearly three million residents, millions of visitors every year, centuries of history, and a deep dependence on cars and scooters. 

But how do you make such a city more liveable, sustainable, and accessible without losing its unique character?

In this episode, recorded at Smart City Expo World Congress in Barcelona in November 2024, Geert Kloppenburg and Servas van Berkum speak with Fabio Nussio, who at the time was responsible for International Cooperation, Sustainability, and the Sustainable Urban Mobility Plan (SUMP) for the City of Rome.

With more than forty years of experience in urban mobility, intelligent transport systems, and European innovation programmes, Nussio was one of the key architects behind Rome's mobility strategy.

We discuss public transport expansion, low-emission zones, cycling infrastructure, shared mobility, overtourism, public space redesign, and why mobility is ultimately not just a transport issue, but a social one.

An open conversation about the future of one of Europe's most complex cities—and the lessons other cities can learn from Rome's transformation.

Recorded: November 2024 – Smart City Expo World Congress, Barcelona.