פרק 71 - ציידת האסטרואידים

 בפרק זה ישבתי לשיחה מרתקת עם אסיל נעמה, חוקרת ביו-רפואית ורובוטיקה ויזמית חברתית. צללנו לעומק החיבור שבין חינוך ומדע, איך אלגוריתמים של טכנולוגיה רפואית עוזרים למצוא סלעים בעומק החלל ואיך היא מצליחה לשנות את העתיד של מאות תלמידים דרך עמותת AseelNama Astronomy&Space שהקימה. זהו סיפור על עבודה קשה, על ניפוץ סטיגמות, ועל המדע ככלי לשינוי חברתי אמיתי.
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Okay.

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Astronaut Dinosauri?

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Astronaut Dinosauri.

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Lama, Lama, Lam Lanu?

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I met Chani Lukakartize, Avalniraitizze, ki Kshainukhtanim, Arabim, Arabashima Murwan, and Rutzelatus Lakalal, Avalheka Mashanim, Pitom Colbin Adam, Bakaloma Kherbichlal.

SPEAKER_01 2:24

So what is it Nama or Nama?

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Okay.

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Okay. Oh Aniba Kenatayav.

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As Bagadal anni Megil Katan afilon is the Bagan. Anni Tamidha, Shaolet Lasifria, Rebagan, Hesh at Yoshim Here Rucha, Tamid Asayatam, Mifasha Chikoli Dialechlipina, you should have doctor, Shavmabagana Klum. Nahon Becholzo Tanya Lechet Lasifria.

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Okay.

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Anikvarmi Kiraita Utiot Aval Anilolamaditilikro. Aval Bolzo Tati Nasa, Migilcatan. An ishred Gam K Bimalak Yal Dochili, Tamida Iiti, Koret, Sfarim, Gam Kholozari, Atka de Khalifa Sikar Shav, Kimharat Lotokomili Beta Sefer Matrix Tamidima, Mr. Peret Shipam and Lokama Yomakharat Le Beta Sefer, Raki Karati Kola Laila.

SPEAKER_01 5:41

Wow.

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Sipurim vesfarim.

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Okay.

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Azam moralitov at a shav locoret at the same sep. As motilatov and baya city she tidash and yakhav kama vikoret. As lochala dicetao asti lechanote Kumrebinan. Yesha me takova andas.

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At Retinit.

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Ken Ken Anita Bate Seulai. Yesha.

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Boba Banai? At Boba Banai?

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Kova empanas. Ah shab imaila. Musta kelet kaim kilo atamin kama baroshili nil hamti k de lam shik li grogam bichotimot.

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Ma as is foot eight correct as Bigadol Sipurim.

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Anivetarbe kilo sipurim vi az kilo ani mumhit belimidat'smit. Rovad varim shelmaditi bhaimshili, gama filu bithumim shani lim setbem, kilo gamba saa, gamcoursim sholakti, shhlonse in bagalonsi andimchili, andamadeti bofanatsmei. Gamkolatrom shasom everan, and it's bofanatsmae, makeita heat and icoliom or de mashadash.

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As a yofhi?

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Can as kilo any limidad smit zoa zoomhuchili, bigadol, vanny khoshevet she gum call the varshan you sabhay and itovit la datat lama, rani butamashakran viho ker. Anybody to hashabo lamakbina. As Begadola ni be madame sacran, ladat, Vlish ol lama colozman Av Gamlicabel Mida, Stamida, but a gidlah shav eh mashu, a takali barosh, a ni, lama lama mida. Ken aswahoratamid.

SPEAKER_01 8:26

Okay. Shav odrat trivian lifnayonaza, the khilhoz, but gil shadal, gilan new, shavad khameshra shanab kircas.

SPEAKER_00 8:57

Lorhatity bathalal, ima etaksha, viabagam, aval imauter, and it's a fashion, ima amoret. Lollifas fas is damnother. Azalahti vti, khameshra, vi sham, the acircas, big armil, big adolescent. Colaim shili, my kercas, me call me comot, emlocula medirasat kilo the kerkas petim shazon shelwaya litmuhba duki yumkas me shulav. As the vote, Charla Gid Shili Bahaim, Vigam Chirat City Lazovita Kerim.

SPEAKER_01 9:59

But the Srimashu, Vitramester Kirkas, Zero Bhaim.

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Sharla Gid Kala Khaim Shilia. As the Gam Chirat City Lazovita Kirkasha, I'm alta as vita attakerkas. Ati na rat gumi.

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Narat gumi.

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Kenny. Acrobatica ve callze.

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Ah, gam akrobatica, lock.

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Ken. And it halti lama arekas, ki Tabinaiti Benadamilasti?

SPEAKER_01 10:39

Gamish?

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Okay.

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Zotasibba. BSM shitimze. Bakirkas. Ken, the lechetal heavel. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 11:22

Shamla physica. Okay, man. Lak masuma kircastle? Lodda Gamvga?

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Physit and Gmishaf Shalagid Anni Khoshev Ba of Day Yom Binadam Kilude Mikabel Kigadalti Mashim Shunim. The Colanashim Mashunim Kiloshe Karti Bahaim, the Tilma Gilma Mashkatan, Bakercas Bamakoi. Kiba Gilma Mashkatan e tira kilobite Vikercas. Kimigilcatan Zethilashpia.

SPEAKER_01 12:31

The Hevratit. Okay, as Narata Gumi Gdela, Bedirelasa, Lat Karmiel, and Shlagamhavim Yudimba Carmiel ba kirkas, the Magoremlach Lachlitcha Tot Machlita Total Mod Bon Universita, Lama.

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Lord Gashi of Pam Torech, Lal Mod Halal M Food. As the Lord Hashav Ville Vilatil Twar shell halal veze. Gam ima, gam Abba, Gamahim Shili. As kilo asviva, Msvivi, Isivatinoh. As a Maslullah Lisayem Limudeti Hon, La Tril Benoversita, Zayam Maslul Day Mugdar, Kilumovani Love, Bishvili. Kshalatili Mudim, itlabatity ben and the other. Ahshav Abasheli Madame Madame Arshev Mathematica V Achelimandes Tohna, Vani Gam Shwa Bikola Thumze Itam Kilwani Gamba Thrumaz. As Bigalzemartovani Madmash, the Sabi Ruit.

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AI, Mali Mod Madame.

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AI sat out. Anilomit Hereik Bihlal Zesha Lahtal and Sabi Ruit can Kiba therehov Shayiti, Kolazman, Mita Keshalansatuhna, Pito Mede Kati Shim, Shamatal Ottoar, Khadash Hasid, Ainboar Bianashim, Vatic Homet, Shabat Almashuta Mid Rat Lasot, and Tamid Rat City Lasot, called Mishalot Martin Mesame Tihon, or Let Lan Satuchna, Maslow Demo Gar tipically, Bampa Shil Bonagid, as Mamas B the Catishim and Martitoff, you're not shaving, and the Gadalti Banola Motonim, Tamithi Bartrim Locchurium, the Farto Tam Lake Shurim. Aval Gam, Beglash N R Bogrim, NRB should have him gum ladder. That's it. Avalamaditize Aniloshaker, but I'm not sure. Avalfat, Gamma de Satri Camot, Gamutot Vimarot, Vegame Robotica Refouit Safety Chanel, with Mihati Bishlam. Aval, Laura, Le Dougma, or be a very course.

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I'm an apartheid colonialist, but we have to do it.

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As the first time, as a Nose Hinoch, I'm not sure.

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As boys, you can't get a little bit of a little STEM, the Karamato Sasha. No, Gambegam. Gam Vegam.

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Gambigam. Vanigame Helekel Space Valley Betakatami Kiruta. Marina Vegay. Shalom Shalom Marina Vegaychamal Colmashika. As a little bit of a very good idea. Oh wow. Okay. Maybe I'm not going to be able to get it. Gammaiti freelancer it liviti callmene Bateshalal, Likama Shanim Tovot, Achi Gati Lochet, Gammaiti Batsadaze, Gameti Batsadaze, Gamati Shofet, Gamaiti Ashima.

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Okay.

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Regal Zigamba Shili. Any Mitsalemet, Vas Lapa Shunashit Stalantrova, Shneamzadmin, Zetov. Shani Villava. As an hour, but it's a child. Ken, Zeo, uh uh Erech, Shemika Blim Ma Olympiada Zeneda, Vigam B space lab, and of Dimbe Baby Piel, as kilo Suratov Nassau.

SPEAKER_01 32:52

Okay.

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Ultrasound. I think we have ultrasound, we saw segmentation. Segmentation is a very good thing, ehi, a day, mta bid you can smile, but muna, or baserton shata notel.

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The model, big adolescent.

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Aiti Mamashima, segmentati, dokerita call with you, as bodeget, come aiti mid, yes call me graphimsham. Cola's money, bakalal. Asham tells campaign, shelle NASA. As Tel Hagisha, Magdalene, Shell Nitonim me fan stars. Okay, let's say, I'm not sure. As the Codem call Gamama Rechat Musan Kenit, Vigam Berega Minase Let Fos Mashusham as Tamid Mnot Nimliha, Be Erech Adavara Hikarovla Davara Zeshata Dakarta, Vishlanu Mida Alav. Shabimata Rue, Shestam Dugma, Shecha Barashima, Adavara Hikarovla, Mikum Shidakarta, Yeshlika Po Astroid, Bishemkahavikha Begodel Shell, Lodat, Hamash Red Kodamashu, Vataroeshima Shadakarta, Zeb Shtame Kodamashu, as the Loto Davar.

SPEAKER_01 35:56

So the Talugam Basman Shot Munatsulma Kamovan. Okay.

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Vigam Lifamim Otto Goofnioteshnya kilo bitmunot sho no. Loboto Godel.

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A Loboto Golgam Lobotomakom?

SPEAKER_00 36:16

Can Gamovan should Mokom kyuzas? Mecanu Khafika Mekanu Akere. Kilo atamstakel al Dvarim Shem Tsufim Mamash. Vechatamstakel al Halal Kilo, Val mea halalomekadwaret, Blickola Aspachilla Orvisem, Vatamatil, Linasot, La Dat, Fodaimsa, Maze, Kilo Mashem Shelze, F Mag Darashelze, Magda Lim Shellze, Le Feminity Hagam Likanes, OK Mukar, Google, Linasa, Bodekit Maze, Zebetam, Holocha Nitokiza, Levanta, Tim Adam, I'm not going to be able to get the same thing.

SPEAKER_01 42:04

Okay.

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As a machal or a project of the world, it's a vlama, but the game, the game, as the Yesh Colme Homarim Computabilim, Computabilim Calumar, a goof, Mikabelo Tam. As a dog, we should have tribute, she must have mabada, and sat mechanot.

SPEAKER_01 44:56

As I said hibour, gufa adam valid gamta kibour bench and a halal more, can love yanim, there biologia, there is astrophysics, astronaut, and email, and robot.

SPEAKER_00 47:37

Shamatizan Shrems, Shrems Bayam, Lifamim, Kidel Hol, Uy Hol Lotsi, Lodat Boa, Omasho, Lord Mashulatibila, Avalesh Bua Kazat Yahulia, She Holala Gia Arbat Lafim Shwamot Malo Celsius. Kimat, Kimat, Ukilu Ugore Boiling.

SPEAKER_01 48:06

Okay. As as May Doctorat, Masikam Kilumlo, Matrum Shemaniano, Mamo Shekhota.

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Bigadol Andasa Coldavar Andasi Vigalal Shabit Huti, Helik Mod Meod Mod Hashov, Batisal Halal as Andasa, at a tatsichlad gumed. Okay. Kinoh Takivunastre. Zedavare Shon Shamarty. Kilo Tadache Zebete Badam Lot Slachti and Lorra City Bathalla, Baba Mari Shurash Nasty Lathomazi, Lot Slachti Mikhlala Zovede, Vanadeom Lochola, Kol Shana, Martilhaeshli Kalmine Thniotrinhuyot, Yeshli Asara, Vafil Ohav Stimasre Yeshli Maletohniotrinhuyot, Vikol Pam, Kol Shana and Yomirit, Gam Benil Benatmi Gamushafim Shili, Ashana, Anilomod Lia Dalua, Zo, Aniraxola Hatita Madrihim, and Tiket Vari Machim, Nitihale Sam Tua, Nithalasotka, Consanium, Kol Shana, Vikol Shanani Hoseret, Vimila Medit.

SPEAKER_01 52:15

So that's the first time, I'll be levy, the more podcast, and buy me coffee, and we can use the first time.

SPEAKER_00 53:54

Okay, Khaval. Gamli Mikanim, Vegame Light, Kilubicola Gilai.

SPEAKER_01 54:52

Okay. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 55:22

No, I tell you if you're not going to be able to do that.

SPEAKER_01 55:25

Okay, so Kinochl Khalal bekav Araim, Bekav Narravi, or the same.

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Avalnegidliha Shi Azghethaltima Murkazimele, Kimat Veloya Bemgzara Vyarbe, Yesh, Aval Anilomikarbe, Rak Kama, Bodidim, Vodidot, Avalmias, Zeniya Shav Yoterve Ter Nagish, Lachivra Aravit. Mahaser, Takiv, Tamila Kadesh, Villa Sot Odvarim, Mze Macharim, Mz, Anikoshev Chimashikaser the Shitsari Litia, Kimashu Khayav, Dhoof. Iriot Zihot, Lihev, Bate Sefer, Lachnisita Mikzoaze, Libet Sefer. Kizemiktoa kilo mikzoa. Nahon, Achav, Anikoshevic is the room, Miodrahav, Miodrahav, Vinagidli Hamashu, Vladimir. Ki Halal me aheaded cool, Mitsadihad. As Anaknukloom, we be called Ravim, we be called Zot Swakim, we behold Bukhim, we behold Zotosimbayot, we behold Elanusman, Latvarimatovim, we be called Ravimale ala Glida, Shilheker Halal.

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As the case, I'm going to go to the halal Ma Madaba Bashawkim, and I'm not sure what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:55

I will be a story of politics. And I will story, as Yacholot Monsieur Machar and Bitachanathalal, Yahoolot Bakanathalbaak, Murodi Mutave, Malim Khad. And it's the partilak?

SPEAKER_01 1:08:40

Yesbor Bemod Tikva, Verbemood Akamat Halomod, Verbemood Wow Kazegadol, Kilomista Klimal or Mothalal, Al Lavianim, or Roverim Shalasim al Madim, or Hekir Shore Mashukazin, Colourimal Super Hashovim, the Berim and Adamal, that the people who are not going to be able to do it. God damn it, Ken! Tasu la Halal Bashanima Honot Aboltoche Ban Rayana Barnawi Madanit by Bio Refuit Saudit. Sarah Sabri and Bio Refuit Mimitzraim, I think that's a good thing. And then we can't be able to do that. And we can see a superman, and we have a sound, and we have to do this.

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In a world, few hearts survive.

SPEAKER_05 1:29:26

All I know is the way I feel when it's real. Keep it alive. The road is long. There are mountains in our way.

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But we climb a step every day. Love lift us up where we belong. Where the eagles cry on a mountain high. Love lift us up where we belong. Far from the world we loan up where the clear winds blow.

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Looking behind.

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All we have is here and now all our lives are terrified. The road is long. There are mountains in a wave. But we climb a step every day. Love lift us up where we belong. Where the eagles cry on a mountain high. Love lift us up where we belong. From the world we know where the clear winds blow time goes by. No time cry. Ali. Ali. Uplift us up where we belong. Where the eagles cry on the mountain high. Up lift us up where we belong. Come from the world we know where the clear winds blow. Love lift us up where we belong. Where the eagles cry on mountain high. Love lift us up where we belong. Far from the world we know where the clear wind has blown.