פרק 72 - סוכנת חלל

בפרק זה אירחתי לשיחה את ד"ר שמרית ממן. ד"ר ממן, המכהנת כיו"ר סוכנות החלל הישראלית ומנהלת את המעבדה לחישה מרחוק והדמיה פלנטרית באוניברסיטת בן-גוריון, משלבת בעשייתה חזון לאומי, מחקר אקדמי פורץ דרך ועשייה חברתית. השיחה פתחה צוהר לאופן שבו לוויינים וטכנולוגיות חלל מסייעים לנו להבין תהליכים גלובליים כאן על כדור הארץ, משינויי אקלים ועד ניטור סביבתי.

מעבר למדע ה"קשיח", שוחחנו בהרחבה על המחויבות העמוקה של ד"ר ממן לחינוך ולדור הבא. דיברנו על פרויקט "She Space" שהקימה, יוזמה בינלאומית שמעניקה לנערות גישה לנתוני לוויין וכלים מדעיים, וכיצד תוכניות מסוג זה מנפצות תקרות זכוכית ומעצימות נשים צעירות בעולמות המדעים והטכנולוגיה (STEM). החיבור הזה שבין מחקר פלנטרי להעצמה קהילתית הופך את העשייה שלה למעוררת השראה במיוחד.

במהלך הראיון צללנו גם לכובע הממלכתי שלה ולתפקידה בעיצוב מדיניות החלל הישראלית. ד"ר ממן שיתפה בתפיסת עולמה לגבי מקומה של ישראל בעידן ה-New Space, התמיכה בסטארט-אפים מסחריים קטנים אל מול ענקיות עולמיות, וההשתלבות במשימות חלל בינלאומיות כמו הסכמי ארטמיס. זהו פרק על מנהיגות, על מבט אל מעבר לאטמוספירה, ועל הדרך שבה החלל והאקדמיה משרתים את כולנו כאן למטה.

אוהבים את הפודקאסט ורוצים לעזור לקדם אותו? הצטרפו לאלה שכבר נרשמו ותימכו בנו פה: buymeacoffee.com/hyperspace

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עריכת קול: אביעד מן - aviad.man@gmail.com
עריכה גרפית: איתי ליאון - astrografix.com 

דרגו את הפודקאסט באפליקציה בה אתם מאזינים ועזרו לנו להגדיל את קהילת החלל הישראלית

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Okay.

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Bihlalbao ma call the rashete vot, me' odd k lilim, me odze, aval, weatem trakat nishimake de la gideta kol the United Nations Space Based Platform Information for Disaster Management and Emergency Response.

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Doctor She's happy now.

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