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That benefits you?"},{"speaker":"Susan Morrison","startTime":2075.239,"endTime":2076.623,"body":"Oh, I would just say go out"},{"speaker":"Susan Morrison","startTime":2076.631,"endTime":2078.879,"body":"to your neighborhood bookstore. Go out on"},{"speaker":"Susan Morrison","startTime":2078.919,"endTime":2080.655,"body":"the street and walk into a bookstore"},{"speaker":"Susan Morrison","startTime":2080.687,"endTime":2082.111,"body":"and get it that way. I hope"},{"speaker":"Susan Morrison","startTime":2082.135,"endTime":2083.423,"body":"there's a bookstore in your town."},{"speaker":"R. Scott Edwards","startTime":2083.511,"endTime":2084.991,"body":"There you go. Barnes and Noble, any"},{"speaker":"R. Scott Edwards","startTime":2085.015,"endTime":2087.503,"body":"of those great bookstores. Lorne, it's out"},{"speaker":"R. Scott Edwards","startTime":2087.511,"endTime":2090.304,"body":"there. It's on the shelves already, flying"},{"speaker":"R. 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Bye."},{"speaker":"Announcer","startTime":2111.0,"endTime":2112.8,"body":"We hope you enjoyed this episode of"},{"speaker":"Announcer","startTime":2112.84,"endTime":2115.032,"body":"Stand Up Comedy, your host and emcee."},{"speaker":"Announcer","startTime":2115.216,"endTime":2117.88,"body":"For information on the show merchandise and"},{"speaker":"Announcer","startTime":2117.92,"endTime":2120.152,"body":"our sponsors or to send comments to"},{"speaker":"Announcer","startTime":2120.176,"endTime":2124.68,"body":"Scott, visit our website at www.standupyourhost and"},{"speaker":"Announcer","startTime":2124.72,"endTime":2128.28,"body":"mc.com. look for more episodes soon and"},{"speaker":"Announcer","startTime":2128.32,"endTime":2130.408,"body":"enjoy the world of stand up comedy."},{"speaker":"Announcer","startTime":2130.504,"endTime":2132.0,"body":"Visit a comedy showroom near."}]}