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Welcome And Final Show Setup

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This is another episode of Stand Up Comedy, your host and MC, celebrating 40 plus years on the fringe of show business. Stories, interviews, and comedy sets from the famous and not so famous. Here's your host and MC, Scott Edwards.

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the podcast. This is the podcast Stand-Up Comedy, your host and MC, kind of a history of the stand-up comedy industry. I'm your host, R. Scott Edwards, and have been doing this for six years, and I thought it might be interesting and fun to end this series with an interview of me. But since I can't interview myself, that would just be wrong. I have brought in a very funny guy you've heard many times on the podcast. Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome back to the show your host for this interview, Bob Warley. Thank you, Scott. Thank you.

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

Hey, thanks, everybody. Thank you. No, sit down. Thank you. Yeah, actually, you probably could do this with yourself. You're over there talking to yourself anyways, and that's you know, that that's a bad look.

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

When you're a podcaster, I guess you talk to yourself a lot. Well, I appreciate you coming up to the studio to do this. Uh Bob's out of Pasadena in Southern California. He was a professional comic for a couple decades. He's been retired for a while, but a very funny guy, as you've heard on these shows, and also on my new video podcast, the Tag Team Talent Podcast on YouTube and Spotify. But for this uh final interview, I wanted to share some of the uh reasoning and uh thoughts behind this podcast. And I thought Bob might be a fun guy to do the interview.

Why The Podcast Started

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

And that that would be actually my first question. Why even do a podcast back then? Why, why, what made you think, oh, hey, you know, this is gonna be a good idea?

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

Well, that's not a bad uh question and good one to start with. Thank you, Bob. Uh this the story is this that I um had a large business, I sold it and retired, and I immediately thought I would go into another business. And my wife, Jill, who you've heard on the podcast, made it really clear that uh she was done dealing with her crazy entrepreneurial husband. And I said, Okay, I'll write a book. And she said, No one's gonna read your freaking book. What are you thinking? She goes, You ought to do a podcast.

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

Very supportive wife.

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

Yeah, nobody's gonna read that crap. And I said, What's a podcast? Because I'm not a very sharp guy. This is remember, this is about seven years ago. So anyway, I did my research. This is all before COVID. And I read some books, met some people in the industry, and and in I think it was February of 19, launched this podcast. I wanted to stay connected to the industry and the people that I loved working with back in the 80s and 90s. A little selfish, I guess.

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

Well, no, that that was a a big, I mean, it was big comedy boom back then. So that's a whole couple of decades of it no longer, clearly no longer exists in the business. I mean, that that's what I kept telling you. I go, you know, uh when you're saying, well, so what are guys doing nowadays? You go, I don't know, it's so different now.

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

I have no clue. It really has changed. In fact, one of the reasons I sold my clubs back in 2001 was the industry had shifted. The comics coming through the club were different. Uh, I had aged, you know, over 20 years, and comedy was shifting, uh, getting more edgy and more self-deprecating and less about the the audience. I was always about entertaining the audience. Anyway, I felt there was a shift. And then about the same time, some guy offered me a buttload of money for the club, so I sold him. I miss it. I liked the people I worked with. Uh, and you've heard me name drop over the years, but it was Bob Saggett and Dave Couillet who got me started. But we met and got to work with so many people that you know you couldn't interact with these days, you know. Sadly, some have passed, but also, you know, a lot of them went on to huge careers, some disappeared and went into, you know, tire changing. I don't know. That's work. Yeah. But it is interesting that uh I really had a great time of my life. Now, again, to tell people catch you up. I started the club when I was 24 years old. So I was just a kid, and I was working with these young talented people, and I just had so much fun that I when I retired, I wanted to kind of bring it back, and the podcast allowed me that. You and I reconnected. I got to interview a bunch of comics, I interviewed uh some club owners, some agents, some managers, and it's really been a study about the stand-up comedy industry.

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

Well, weren't you one of the first full-time clubs in the early days, like in the early 80s?

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

Yeah.

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

I mean, when I started, there was like no nobody around. We were doing like talent nights.

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

Right, right. Well, uh, for those people into the history, in the uh 60s and 70s, stand-up comedy was regulated to the entertainment between jazz bands or strippers at clubs up in Alaska was a big place to people go. But there wasn't a lot of places where guys could kind of uh uh learn the material and try out the material and stuff. And when I opened in August of 1980, it was the twelfth full-time comedy club in the entire US. Wow. And it was an A room, so we had some of you know the best of the best. It was like the one step before TV and fame.

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

Right. Yeah.

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

And an example of that was uh one of my regulars was Jerry Seinfeld, and he called me up one week and said, Hey, I need to cancel. I'm doing this pilot for a show. Of course, the show turned out to be Seinfeld. He had a very popular first season, and then he what was great about Jerry was he called me up and he goes, Hey, I owe you a week. And he came back and worked a Thursday through Sunday for the same money that I had booked him on the year and a half before, before his show hit.

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

So that won't ever happen again.

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

No, no.

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

So did that show work out for him? I don't know what it was.

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

Seinfeld, yeah, I think it did okay.

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

It's good for him. That's yeah, he's a funny guy.

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

Well, it was uh great. You know, you were part of those days. I mean, you were working with some pretty big names at the time. They weren't big names. Uh we do need to make it clear to the audience, these people weren't famous at the time. You know, Jerry had gotten his show, but you know, he worked for me for two or three years even before that.

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

But he was already kind of a big guy in the business.

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

Yeah, but Gary Shanling, Bob Sagitt, Dave Cuyay, they had they were working my club regularly, and then boom, they get a sitcom or a show or a movie, and then they go on to the next level. Sure. That's the that's what we call the Scott Who level. Who is this again? Well, other than Jerry coming back on that old week, it's true that most of those guys didn't come back. Although we'll say that my friendship with Dave Collier and Bob Sagitt was so strong, and again, they're the guys that helped me get started in 1980. In 1990, and Full House had been out, they'd already done America's Funniest Videos, they were celebrities. They came back and did my 10th anniversary show. Oh, that's sweet. So uh Dave, Bob, and Jerry were like the exception to the rule. They came back after their fame and fortune, but most don't. I mean, they move on. We were a stepping stone, we knew that.

Seinfeld And The Early Headliners

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

Sure, but you know, it's a great club to work, a lot of fun. Uh so uh when you did this podcast, uh, what were the most fun interviews to do?

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

Well, it was interesting because I wanted to have a wide berth of interviews to get the different angles. And so, of course, it started with comics like you and people that I loved in the industry, but I interviewed a couple old staff people, came back after.

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

I listened to those shows, those were great. Actually, those are the most fun shows for me to listen to because they see everybody, right?

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

And it was like 50 years later, so it was a part of their youth, and now they've had kids, been married, they're on the second, their third stage in their life, and I go, hey, let's talk about comedy. But uh, there was some uh old staff people. I really enjoyed talking to other club owners. I got a chance to talk to uh Bob Fisher, who's a good friend of yours, and and a few others I'll I'll get to later. But you know, a couple agents, a couple managers. It really talking to the other people in the industry that have a same love for standup. And again, I I need to uh share with the audience, uh, and this is very selfish, but I want you to understand where I'm coming from. There's a lot of forms of great entertainment. Musicians and dancers and actors and singers and all these different types of entertainment. For me, I think one of the hardest is stand-up comedy because every night's a new show, new audience. And even though you've done your material for a year or two, you have to make it sound fresh like you just made it up. And every night was different because every audience is different. You know, you're an actor, you could do a scene, they go cut, let's do it again, let's do it again. You do how many takes till you get it right. You know, a musician, if you're doing a song, even if you're a big famous band and you mess up a song, no one's gonna call you on it.

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

Right, right?

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

Hey, the Beatles, they forgot this look. Well, they do, but they you can't hear it. Right, right over the screen.

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

It's all up to 10.

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

But uh comedy, I think, is a lot more interactive with the public and personal.

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

Yeah, you do get feedback right away, that's for sure. Good and bad. Unfortunately, sometimes. Yeah, definitely. So whether you said we mentioned Bob Fisher. Uh who else who else did you interview besides Bob? Which is a was a great interview, by the way. I loved I loved that interview.

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

Oh, did you get a chance to hear it?

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

I I did. I love the fact that he said he got out of the business when he was watching somebody on stage and he realized he didn't understand what they were talking about.

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

Well, that's kind of what I meant. Uh for me, it was 2001. For Bob, it was many years later. He was in the business, what, 40 years?

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

Yeah, about that.

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

Yeah. But I got a chance to interview uh Tom Sims, who uh had a club, uh Bob Wheeler, who worked for um uh the comedy store, Tom Sawyer, who uh famously booked some clubs in the Bay Area. I all these great interviews, and they were all very giving of their time and sharing on the podcast because one, we were peers, we had interest uh similar stories and path and entertainment, but everybody's was similar yet different.

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

Right.

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

Right? Why they got into it and where it went and what it took them, you know. I would say in total, we all did pretty well. I mean so you know, comics and magicians and jugglers, uh come and go. But the club owners, you know, you open your doors every day, you have to clean the floors, get the bathroom set up.

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

Well, and you had three clubs up one time.

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

Yeah, I had three. A lot of these guys had one, but it's still a lot of work, but it's it's their the brick and mortar aspect is a little bit more permanent than the floating careers of actors and comics and stuff like that. Wouldn't you think? I mean, you were in it.

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

Yeah, um to me, it's uh I mean I was thinking how the audience changes because they get obviously older, so they're not gonna want to go out second show Friday night anymore because it's I mean, I didn't even want to perform second shows Friday night. It's like what there's another show, come on.

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

Yeah, so Friday night late show was always the the nightmare show because people had worked all day, then they go drinking until 10 30.

Speaker 3

Right.

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

And then, oh hey, entertain me. So they were always the drunkest, rudest crowds. But you know, that's part of the game.

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

But you know, again, the audiences have changed because you know the media is different now and everything's completely different. So I I mean, you you really guys, you really started the club right at the beginning of the whole boom.

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

I was so lucky catching that wave.

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

Well, I was lucky too, because you were around, so it's like oh good.

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

It worked out for both of us. But uh to educate people and the listening audience, when I opened it was the 12th club in the country, and that's 1980. By 1985, all the discos, and there were thousands of them around the country became comedy clubs. And it wasn't quite like Starbucks where they're on every corner, but every major city had a comedy club by 1985. And then it hit TV with Evening at the Improv and Live at the Comedy Store. And I think stand-up comedy became more mainstream. It was kind of an underground entertainment format, and it got more mainstream.

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

Well, in the early days, too, you would see the same batch of comics everywhere you went because there was only a few people that were continuing to be. In the industry, right. And then after a while, the those cities started having their own comics, and they're pretty good. So creating their own pool. Yeah, creating their own pool of comics. Oh, that's true. So they would get maybe bring in a headliner and then they'd have you know an opener in the middle uh defending.

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

I never thought of it that way. It's so true that uh even in my clubs in Sacramento, and I had a club in Stockton for a while, five years. The the originally everybody came from LA and San Francisco kind of tool pools that were already there. Your East Coast would be New York. But then I ended up developing some of my own talent. Uh uh Randy Benton, or we know him as Ben Tony, went on a national tour. Lynn Stobiner opened up for Ellen in concert. Um don't don't you don't have to edit that.

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

You have to keep at it.

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

Yeah. And then um, but there's been a few people that got their start at our club and went on to a good career. Yeah, a lot of people were one of those.

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

It was always fun to come here because everybody was gonna be good, you know. And then you knew how to build a show.

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

Well, now he's kissing up a little because I was producing and booking the show. So thank you for it.

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

Well, no, I mean, you know, uh what I meant is is you didn't have some guy like, oh, you're gonna struggle after this guy. This guy's gonna blow you out of the water. Oh. And I always thought, well, why why do you want him to blow me out of the water? Aren't I supposed to close the show?

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

So well, it is important, and a lot of people don't realize the challenge of producing comedy is not just finding the talent and making sure they're gonna fit your audience. You know, I had a few comics that didn't gel with the Sacramento audience, but as a producer, you want to lay out the show so that each guy is a little bit better than the guy before. Because as you said, if you put up, you know, Robin Williams in the spot A by spot C, nobody's listening. There is no spot C it's kind of done.

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

So uh after all the years, are are there guys that you interviewed during the podcast that are no longer with us that you you're glad that you did? And people that you didn't that you wish you did?

Favorite Interviews And Hidden Gems

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

Yeah, that's uh a really great question. You know, uh I was really good friends with uh Bob Sagitt, and we had a interview on the books, but he uh tragically passed with his accident, and I wasn't able to interview uh Bob Sagott, but I was able to introduce everybody to Amazing Jonathan, uh who had his own shows in Vegas, but he wasn't and he had a TV show for a while, but I wouldn't say he was you know he wasn't Seinfeld famous, but he was a really crazy unique magician.

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

Well, he was a mainstay in in Las Vegas for a long time, I think.

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

Yeah, but I mean outside of Vegas, I don't know how famous he was, even though he did have a TV show for a while, but still, Amazing Jonathan was a wonderful interview. Sadly, uh, within months of finishing it, he did finally pass. He had had art heart issues for a while, but that's part of the interview. You gotta listen to it, it's pretty amazing. And then the other one was Kelly Monteith. Oh, yeah, great. Who, uh great guy who's really famous in England, but he's an American comic that got celebrity with his own TV show for a number of years in England. And I got a chance to interview him. We had a wonderful interview. You should go find it and listen to it. Uh, but he passed uh within six months of finishing it. So uh even though it's always sad to lose somebody from an industry you love, I felt lucky that I had a chance to uh interview them and get their story out there to the world before. So that that was uh, like you said, sad, but uh at least you got it in interesting. At least you got it in. Yeah, and and learn stuff. You know, both these guys had totally different careers, but uh both very successful.

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

So out of the living comics, who were some of your favorites to talk to and and interview? Well Bob Worley. Bob Worley.

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

Oh, really Bob? Yeah, Bob Worley is funny. Always funny. He's amazing. Well, what's interesting, it's not always the people that people know. You know, like I I was finally able to catch up with Tree. Oh, he's and uh a very unique comic that nobody would remember that he did it.

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

But he was well, anybody that ever saw him would go, oh yeah, that guy.

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

Yeah, yeah. He was an amazing interview. And uh I ran down uh Jim Jays, who was Clancy the Clown. Oh, yeah, yeah. Who was the guy that opened my shows for like 10 years? A lot of fun, but just he's like a real mime clown that opened the shows, and we had lost contact, I don't know, 50 years ago, and I was able to run them down and do an interview. That was fun. So there's been some of the not so famous, because the podcast where we interviewed the famous and not so famous. Well, there was sometimes the really fun ones.

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

Great comics that never, you know, hit the big big time. I mean, I never hit the big time, but I I was consistently okay, I could do the time.

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

Uh you were funny, Bob. But yeah, you would you're a great example of somebody who was important in the industry in the 80s, was really, really funny, but didn't get that golden ticket and become the one percent that were famous. But you knew and worked with, I mean, Fred Wolf and Peter Gaulke, and there's a number of people that you worked hand in hand with career-wise that ended up with amazing careers.

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

Yeah, or you know, good enough careers.

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

Well, Fred Wolf worked at Saturday Night Live.

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

So did so did Pete. So yeah. I mean, I could have been fired from that show. Yeah, but I don't know, but but who else? Like, uh and you also did these roundtable things too, I thought was kind of interesting.

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

Yeah, I you know, you uh as a producer of a podcast, you always want to know, well, what can I bring to the audience that will be engaging and unique and still stick with the theme of the stand-up comedy industry? So after sharing literally hours of stand-up comedy recorded back in the 80s and 90s, and then adding the interviews of comics and industry leaders like uh Bob Fisher and Tom Sawyer, doing the round tables was something that I thought, and it try I think it worked out. I don't I know you were a part of a couple of them.

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

Yeah, I did with Jazz Canner and uh Peter Gaulke.

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

Yeah, and the surfer show. And but what was great was then you had people in one room, and we got Bruce Baum in and uh Jamie Alcroft and Arch Barker and Yeah, and we and we get them in a room and then they share stories, and they're laughing and making each other laugh. I gotta tell you, as a listener of this podcast, that as much as comics are fun and interesting on stage as entertainers, there's this whole world backstage where things can be said and things can be done and that is so funny on a different level. You know, it was um so doing the round table, the comics were sharing stories that you wouldn't hear as as a comedy bit on stage, but were really funny and interesting.

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

I think when I did it with those two guys, I didn't feel like anybody was trying to you know up each other because usually you know that's what comics do. They said, Oh, that's nothing. But you know, it was just fun, you know, conversation about things that we've all been through.

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

Yeah, that was true. Nobody tried to one up somebody else, you know, and I think that one that shows their professionalism, and two, I own I the people I did in roundtables were friends, and that really helped that you know they had already a relationship that they can interact and and share stories with.

Why Stand Up Is So Hard

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

Yeah. Uh speaking of that, friends, I I notice on the shows because I listened to quite a few because you know I had nothing else to do. Um you don't really have a lot of uh women comics on. Why why is that?

Roundtables And Backstage Stories

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

Well it uh good question.

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

Thank you.

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

Uh back in the 80s and 90s, there were some female comics, but not very many, as the those that have studied comedy know that Joan Rivers was one of the first women comics to really burst through that glass ceiling. You know, and some people might say Lucille Ball or something, but she was more of an actress, so that was different. We're talking about stand-up comedy, and it was Joan Rivers, I think would everybody would say was kind of the first one.

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

Well, Phyllis Diller.

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

That's was she doing a lot of stand-up? Yeah, she did stand-up, yeah. That would have been early though, 50s, right?

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

How far do we want to go back?

Women In Stand Up Then And Now

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

Well, Joan was doing it in the 70s and 80s, and well, she did Ed Sullivan, too, I think. Yeah, well, that goes back a ways. Well, there weren't as uh a ton. I mean, Ellen worked my club, Paula Poundstone kind of got her start at my club. But when it came to doing the podcast, less women stayed in the business than the men. Well, for probably I mean they had kids, they got married.

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

All that in this business just beats you down on all the travel. Yeah, you don't want to be on the road with a bunch of boneheads or the rooms they put you up in, it's just terrible.

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

Well, I did get a chance to interview Kathy Ladman, nice name, Lois Bromfield, who's hilarious, Monica Piper, uh Lynn Stobener, who's like family. I mean, she's local. Lois is living in Germany. Yeah, yeah. So that was interesting. I was she was in Germany, I was here, and we had a really great conversation. If you get a chance, go find it. But you're right. I mean, I maybe interviewed Karen Anderson. I did interview, she's a writer that was a stand-up comic in the early days. In fact, got her start at my club.

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

And then we worked together.

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

Writing for Ellen and uh a few other shows, and she's still working on scripts with people. She's a very big success as a writer. Uh, that's the other thing that's interesting about stand-up comedy, is it's one of the few entertainment careers where after you've gotten your career started, struggling as a stage comic, and maybe you can speak to this, very few of them actually stayed in comedy. Some become actors, some become writers, some become producers. How would you explain that?

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

Well, you know, it's it is like a stepping stone, you know. You and you want to move you want to steady, first of all, you want to steady gig. You know, because if you're gonna be a road comic, that's that's rough, and it's not a great way to make a living. So uh, but yeah, most people go into writing, like like you said, Fred and Peter and Karen Anderson. Karen Anderson, yeah. So that's it's a way out.

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

Uh and then others went into acting, Larry Miller. Yeah, because they're they're talented. Kevin Pollock. All these guys work for me. Kevin Pollack has had like some of the biggest movies ever made.

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

I know. Actually, uh uh Peter and I uh auditioned for a show that he eventually got, him and another guy got the show. Oh really? But it didn't last because they got the wrong people stammer. But uh no, he is extremely talented.

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

Still still doing a lot of work. And what's funny was a lot of people don't know. Well, maybe if you paid attention, but he he got his start as a comic impressionist. Right, right. He did a lot of impressions. Peter Falk is this. Yeah, he got uh Johnny Carson's show with the Peter Falk made that I loved. Oh, yeah. Yeah, so those are classics. But so Kevin Pollack, but you know, even Bob Sagitt, Dave Colet went into television. Uh, one of my really good friends, and I was so happy to get to know, was Harry Anderson, who sadly we've lost, but he was doing comedy magic and had started getting some uh notoriety. He was a semi-regular on the TV show Cheers, but he was so good he got his own show, Night Court. And now it's got a new phase with other actors. But Harry was an incredible entertainer on stage. And a nice person. Yeah, and really successful. You know, people like that were fun to work with. I became really good friends. I I should probably segue into this. My father had a great sense of humor, and because I wanted to impress my father, I brought soupy sales in, these classic comics, and he actually threw a pie in my face. And anybody that knows the soupy sales history knows that Bang! Yeah, he threw pies in the face of you know, presidents and Muhammad Ali and famous, famous people. Well, I got a pie in the face from Soupy Sales, but it became very good friends with Pat Paulson, got a chance to introduce my dad to him, and you know, I was a hero. Which you did an interview with your dad.

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

Yes, I did do an interview with my dad. I enjoyed that. That was really nice. Oh, did you listen? Yeah, it was awful. Oh, that's great. You already had a good sense of humor.

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

I did a couple selfish interviews. My father was one. I did it for a Father's Day show, and he passed away not too long after that. So I greatly get to share that a couple times, and uh it was a really fun interview. He had an amazing memory. But I've done an interview with my wife and your wife. Right. Did it uh an interview of what it was like to be married to goofballs like us. So there's been some selfish interviews. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

Anybody else in that kind of realm that well, Lynn Stobiner's like family.

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

I mean, she was became a professional comic, uh, got out of the business at a young age, um, but she ran some of my clubs and was uh everything from a food girl to the club manager to a professional comic. So that was a fun interview. Lynn Stobiner was uh uh important in my life, but I've known her since she was six. She's like my little sister. So that was uh interesting.

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

But well, and Bob too, or her brother. You interviewed.

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

Bob who?

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

Stobiner.

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

Bob Stobener. I'm just joking. He was my he's been my partner in four different companies. He was my partner in the beginning of uh Laughs Unlimited, and he you guys have heard his voice a hundred times. He's been uh a great friend and value. Uh I've actually never interviewed him. We've interviewed kind of each other, and somebody interviewed us as the entrepreneurs that started the club. But uh no, Bob's very important to uh my life and this podcast and in all my experience in comedy. So thank you for mentioning my good friend Bob Stobener.

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

I remember like Mac and Richie, those guys who voted those those guys were so important. Yeah, no, that's uh anybody else from that time that you got to interview and kind of reminisce about?

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

Uh, you know, it was uh no.

unknown

Okay.

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

No, there's just too many. I mean, I I I tried different tangents to keep the podcast interesting, I mentioned. So I did the roundtables, which were a group of four, you know, three to four people all talking about comedy. But I also did theme shows. I got a couple radio personalities. Remember Paul and Phil from Y92?

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

No, for nice guys.

Comedy As A Launchpad Career

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

And they went on to be the answer guys on the Discovery Channel, and then also Tom Nakoshima, who's still a famous uh rock and roll DJ here in Sacramento. So I've interviewed uh guys that did uh radio. Uh some of the uh more interesting people that uh I haven't name dropped yet, but you got to go look for their interviews, people. Ed Solomon. Now that's a name I don't think anybody knows, but he's written some of the biggest movies. You know, now you see them. Uh oh, now you see me, is that how it is? He also did uh all the um men in black movies. Oh, yeah, yeah. I mean, he's written a bunch of movies that have been those just did okay. Well, let's just say I interviewed him from his castle in England. It was amazing. Uh, but also Will Shriner, who worked my club before he got his show. Yeah, and he's on the East Coast. So the podcast allowed me to do some really fun, interesting interviews and then name-drop them here.

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

Yeah, and like you said, you you got to reconnect with a lot of guys that you'd worked with over the years.

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

Yeah, and I think that's you know, one of the reasons I did it was it is kind of reminiscent, it is kind of a history. In fact, the greatest compliment I got on this podcast was to me, it was just a labor of love. I just love the people, I love the industry, I like the comedy, and I got to share it with the world through this podcast. But a couple people have commented after listening to a number of the interviews that it really is a history, an audio history of stand-up comedy from the 80s and 90s that nobody else has done. I mean, there's a podcast called The History of Stand-Up, but it just scratches the veneer surface of it.

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

And that that whole decade of the 80s, and well, I guess both desk decades were really instrumental in the whole boom thing. But but you did interview, like I listened to uh George, you did George Wallace.

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

Oh, I totally forgot about George, my very first headliner. Yeah. August of 1980, uh, the opening act was Gary Shanling, uh, who made 150 bucks to do a 20-minute set, and the headliner was George Wallace, who had his own show in Vegas for many years, uh did a ton of TV back in the 80s. He was already uh uh basically a celebrity, but I was able to get him thanks to Gary.

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

Yeah, yeah. That was uh Willie Tyler and Lester.

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

Oh, Willie Tyler.

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

Yeah, yeah, that was a fun interview, actually.

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

Interviewed Luster.

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

Yeah, yeah. Well, yeah, because he's the one. He's the funny one. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

Just sits there. It's funny you mentioned that. Uh Willie Tyler is uh a great ventriloquist. He's still out there doing a few things here and there, but did a ton of TV back in the six well 70s and 80s. He was really a big celebrity. Kind of dropped off in the 90s as he got older. Uh very funny guy, a good friend, and it was uh a good interview. Uh somebody else that was interesting that nobody would expect because it wasn't really connected with the uh stand-up comedy industry. Uh, if you do go to the Googler and check out Dick Bright, and he's a music producer out of San Francisco, and I knew him because he did the album for Bruce Bomb.

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

Oh, okay.

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

Remember Marty Feldman Eyes that hit record uh back in the day? And I worked with Dick and Bruce in the studio in San Francisco, kind of you know, made a little bit of a relationship. We're not friends or anything, but when I was doing the podcast, I reached out to him and we had a great interview about how he's really a musician and has done tons of really important work in music in San Francisco. But how dipping into comedy with Alex Bennett on the radio there in San Francisco and Bruce Baum and and people like that really was interesting to hear that story. So that was a fun interview.

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

All right, now who who in your mind would be your top ten comics that you that you interviewed, not top ten comics but that you actually talked to.

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

Yeah, you couldn't really uh Worley say Bob Worley. Oh, I think definitely number one. Well, the thing is you can't go by who you enjoy the most because it's such everybody's different and you know, comedy is so what's the right word? It's a personal, you know, everybody reacts differently.

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

Yeah, that's that's why I never liked contests because how do you you know judge one person from another? Everybody's so different. So like you had I remember Andy Kindler.

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

Oh, Andy Kindler's was a great interview, by the way.

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

Yeah, because he's quick and he's fast and he's you know, you know, and he knows a lot. Yaakov Smirnoff was good. Yeah. Interesting time.

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

Oh, you're you're bringing up some of my favorite interviews.

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

David Strossman, I always the first guy I ever worked with here. Was who? David David Straussman. Oh Chuck Wood.

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

By the way, David Strassman, world famous comic ventriloquist, he is a huge celebrity in Australia.

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

Australia, right.

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

He just retired this year, earlier this year.

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

Arch Barker, too. He's in Australia.

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

Arj Barker lives in Australia, and I got to interview him. Wow, you're bringing up some great people. Well, you know, John Pate, that was another guy. It was really the podcast let me relive what was a highlight of my life, which was working in the industry back in those days. And you you you mentioned, you know, Bobby Slayton. I mean, he was so insulting and yet so hilarious on his interview.

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

Well, that's why he's funny.

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

But that's what you know, that's why he's the pit bull of comedy. You know, uh, you mentioned George Wallace, Tom McTeague, who's now retired, but he's he was in Baywatch. Baywatch, yeah. Yeah, never mind. He was on Baywatch, he was in movies, he didn't know.

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

Because you're all watching Tom McTeague with those chicks that are on the show. And hey, that Tom guy, he's hot.

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

Yeah. Okay. But I'm just saying, reconnecting with him, and he's now retired, but he had a great career in television uh in talking about how comedy was the springboard to his career.

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

I think for a lot of people it was.

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

Yeah, really interesting. The Jakov Smirnov interview, you mentioned that. He talks about what a how difficult it was to get out of Russia and what they had to do. His family actually sold condoms on the streets of France to get enough money to get over to America. I mean, that story is not going to be heard anywhere else. And for good reason. Well, but it's still interesting. But uh not new condoms either. No. No. Yeah, Andy Kindler, who is a real unique person, did a lot of work with David Letterman. Uh, Bruce Baum. I mean, the baby man Bruce Baum, classic prop comedy, and not a famous guy, but definitely one of the most entertaining people ever on stage.

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

We we should stop with the name dropping because you're gonna miss somebody and they're gonna feel like, hey, I can't believe I worked for a whole time.

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

Yeah, that's that would be.

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

Gary Mule Deer, I know you were, he worked a lot up for you.

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

Yeah, you know, I let's take this moment since we're name-dropping and talk about people that weren't stand-up comics.

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

Oh, that's that's all right.

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

But you they had a tie to the industry, but they never worked for me. Let me put it that way. I'm not saying they weren't for me.

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

Because they just weren't that funny. I'm sure they could do stuff, but they get up, they just stand there, push papers.

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

I I'm probably setting this up wrong, but I did want to name drop, but I wanted to share some of the interviews. These are the reason I'm dropping the names, people, is I want you to go back, find the shows that you think would be fit your entertainment needs, and listen to these interviews because they're amazing. But there were a few people that never worked for me, but that had such an interesting part of how comedy touched their lives. One was Mike Lucas, that's recent. He's written several books on comedy, he teaches comedy. He's also authored some other books, but a really interesting interview. But did you know uh I got a chance to interview a couple times Tom Dreessen?

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

Oh, yeah. See, but he's he is a comic.

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

But he's a comic, but he never worked for me. But he was on such a high level.

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

Yeah, I mean, he opened for Sinatra, and I mean, yeah.

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

He opened for Sinatra for like 15 years. He hosted, co-hosted billions of times. Oh, yeah. But Tom Dreessen and I are like on a first name basis now. And it's like it wouldn't have happened if not for this podcast. And we've had he's told such amazing stories. So if you get a chance, there's uh several bonus shows where Tom tells a Frank Sinatra story. So you you call him Tom or Tommy? I call him Tom, but you know, Frank called him Tommy. Uh anyway, it was interesting. Uh, Chris Barnes, who is more of a comic actor, but he had an interesting background. A guy, uh, an attorney named Carl Unugbu.

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

Uh well, you really wanted to drop that name and you can't even get out of here.

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

Well, he wrote a comedy about I'm sorry, let's start over. He wrote a book about stand-up comedy and the copyright issues and the defamation of character issues. Right. And so he wrote a book to try to protect and help people in the industry. And I got a chance to interview him and get a copy of his book. And it was that was just interesting. And then just recently, I got a chance to interview Susan Morrison, who did a biography from Saturday Night Live. Oh, yeah. I I read part of that actually here before that interview. And uh got a chance to uh share that story of the beginning of Saturday Night Live and uh the man behind it, and it was uh incredible to get a chance to talk to her as she was behind the scenes.

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

Well, not to go off uh you know script or anything, but uh didn't a lot of guys that worked for you end up on Saturday Night Live, like you said. Oh yeah, Dana Carvey.

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

We didn't even mention Dana's name yet, but I haven't interviewed her. Yeah, we got it. I put it in there. Yeah, you did. Dana Carvey was starred out of San Francisco, worked for us for years, was playing Choppin' Broccoli, a song that went, you know, number one after the show. Which I think he auditioned with. That got him on top of the show. Yeah, that got him on the show. He he was huge. Uh Kevin uh Nealan uh went on. Uh well, Fred Wolf and and Peter Gaulke, but uh there was uh been a few over the years that uh uh worked for me and then went on. Bob Worley has watched the show. He has. Uh while we were talking about non-comics, I did do an interview with Kirsten Schultz, who's a German actress who um recently wrote a book, and she's not really a comic, she's an actress, but she was doing a comedic role in a killer clown movie, and now she's considered a comedic actress. And so that was an interesting interview. Kristen Kirsten Schultz, just because she kind of skimmed the veneer of the industry. She's not really a stand-up comic, but now she's considered a comedic actress after being a killer clown. It's just wild.

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

Well, that's so that's a stepping stone into the business. Killing.

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

Something that that uh that worked. But I've been name-dropping all these people, and I apologize. I know it's getting old, but it's because these are the interviews you might want to go back and listen to.

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

Did you uh interview Bob Goldthwaite at all?

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

Because I know he's no Bob Goldthwaite worked for me, but I didn't get a chance to interview him. Um but he's one there's so many people you back in Jamie.

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

The engineer would just be a nightmare with it.

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

Not much of an interview.

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

So Bob, how are you?

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

Yeah, it was uh there's a number of people. Um Sam Kennison, you know, worked for me. Nice, nice person. And he was crazy man on stage, but Bobcat, of course, but there's not off stage, I might add. Oh well, there was you, you know, who did you really enjoy working with back in the day or in my club?

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

Uh, you know, pretty much everybody that was here was just good. It was always fun to, you know, Dana was fun to work with, uh Kuye was fun. Uh uh geez, Bob was fun.

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

I mean it's kind of hard to come back. It's like you said you'll forget a name.

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

Yeah, and there's and and everybody that I worked with, uh Mo Betterman, I like always working with him, and and uh Ken Gard, guys like that. I mean always had Bentoni was always fun. I mean there's just a lot of people that you just had a good time with. So it you know, John Henton was fun, you know, Jimmy Burns. I'm throwing out names of people, who? What?

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

Yeah, but yeah, no, these were good, solid comics.

Chaos Offstage And Club Rules

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

And then you had like a like you I said, a lot of big names. Uh John Fox was fun, even though I knew Oh, geez, John Fox.

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

How did we not mention that name? Yeah, yeah. I didn't get a chance to interview him, sadly. He passed away. You know, it was sad that we lost him, but boy, I there wasn't another person that abused his body more.

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

Oh man. I uh when I worked your room in uh Birdcage, I remember some he went up on stage and I could hear somebody on this go, I just saw that guy puking in the bathroom. And he killed.

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

Oh, he chased me around the green room once with a a a spoonful of coke, and you know, take it, you pussy, take it. And then, you know, I ended up firing him. I don't know if you heard the story.

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

Do we need this to share that story?

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

Well, it it just for reference to why he was one of the funniest comics ever, but he had no filter, no control. And I'm out introducing, you know, the headliner, one of the acts, and I go back to the green room, and there's a blow-up doll on the floor, and John's got his dick out, and he's peeing on the face of the blowup doll just to make the other comics laugh. It was consensual. The point was it was totally disrespectful of the club and of me, and I fired him. But, you know, before that, he was one of the funniest guys and always killed. So that you get this yin and yang of the industry. And we were talking about this uh earlier off mic, and that there were so many people that we got to work with that were funny on stage, but there were some that were really funnier or offstage or a huge problem offstage. You know, there there's the partiers and the guys that were constantly chasing tail.

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

I think it was that decade too, that whole because for a while there uh comics were like the rock and roll of you know, of entertainment.

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

So how did you steer clear of uh the drugs and the I'm not very good?

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

So I just went home.

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

You're hilarious.

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

I just I went home. I've been married forever, so I just went home.

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

Yeah, you did get married young. You married your high school sweetheart.

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

Uh well, she was in high school, but it was. Yeah, thank you. Um yeah, so no, I just I just wasn't into it. And I hung out with guys that weren't into it. Like Peter wasn't into it, and friend Pat Anifon wasn't into it.

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

It is kind of into it. It is like a lot of life, uh comedy like any industry had its clicks. You know, you had the drug games, you had the guys that drank themselves to sleep every night, and uh the woman chasers. I mean, I guess that's fairly common, at least in uh entertainment in Hollywood, there's there's uh always a little bit of the shenanigans that I know as a club owner I had the the my famous uh seven rules that were broken all the time, but I tried to maintain a clean uh work atmosphere for not only my staff but also for the entertainers.

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

Well, and then that made it fun for guys like me that we had bowling night and stuff like that.

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

Oh yeah, we did some crazy stuff, didn't we? We had the bowling parties. We used to take the boat out at the bowling alley, which was weird, I thought, but still, you know. We had some after show parties right there in the club. So well, ladies and gentlemen, uh I appreciate Bob coming in and doing this kind of interview with me and allowing me to name drop some of the interviews and shows. I hope you get a chance to go back and listen to. Uh, I do want to reiterate, it's I've been doing this for over six years. There's over 500 shows.

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

Uh pure do this by yourself, by the way, or comedy entertainment. It's just you that came up with the whole idea.

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

Yes.

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

Okay, there we go. I was curious, I'm asking.

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

It's had over uh 500,000 downloads, so I've been very blessed that people have heard it. And it's gone international. I'm number one in Ghana. I don't I don't know what that means. I mean, uh I'm like number three in Nigeria, so you never know. That's the big shot. Yeah, I I can't go to Ghana. Apparently, I'll get swarmed. Uh, what do you mean? Who helped you get started? I mean, like the podcast.

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

Did somebody kind of come in and help you set it up?

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

And no, I I've started over a dozen companies in my life, and I've always done them by the seat of my pants. And even though this isn't a company and it's never made a dollar, ladies and gentlemen, it's a a pure um measure of my love for the industry. But it was something I had to teach myself. And if you listen to the first like 10 episodes and then listen to the episodes later, you can hear a difference.

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

And most of those were call-ins, right? Because COVID. So you just call people and the interviews.

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

Well, COVID hit right after I launched, which made it difficult to do the interviews, but everybody was home.

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

Right.

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

They couldn't work at clubs, and so it was easy.

Downloads Formats And Short Attention Spans

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

Did you not also do those little side things like the Wednesday little you had like a little show? Oh, the bonus shows?

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

Yeah, bonus shows. Yeah, those were mostly just pure stand-up comedy. Here's what it is my interviews and my main show in the beginning was an hour long. And I thought that was the way you did it in the industry, which it kind of was you know, six years ago. But people's attention span has gotten shorter. Now my interviews and shows run about 40, 35, 45 minutes.

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

Nobody will ever hear the end of this.

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

No. Uh, but I did realize that um people needed short bits of comedy, and so I created comedy appeteasers, which are five-minute segments of just stand-up comedy, and those were a development from the bonus shows, which come out every couple weeks. And what I did is I took material uh recorded back in the 80s and 90s and made short comedy snippets that could kind of brighten up somebody's day. The bonus shows always launched on Wednesday to get you through hump day, and comedy appetizers always opened, uh launched on Friday so it kind of lead into your weekend. But yeah, there were just ways to keep the content flowing and try to find the time limit and the content that the audience wanted. Okay. And so, you know, whether you're doing a table talk with five guys or an interview with one person or sharing a full hour of stand-up comedy or just a five-minute comedy set, hopefully each of those finds its audience.

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

Okay. Um, well, now that this is wrapping up your podcasting, what's what's next for Scott Edwards?

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

Well, you and I just spent a day having a lot of fun. Don't tell people that creating uh shows for my new video podcast, the Tag Team Talent Podcast. And what we're doing there, uh, with people like you and Bob Stobener and the help of many others, is now we're doing a video podcast that shares the actual now it's still 80s and 90s comedy, basically, although most of the videos are less than three years old now. But now you can see what you were talking about on Yeah, now you can see what we talked about on the audio podcast over the last six years.

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

Which by the way, I always thought that you could see the podcast, so I went out and bought expensive lights and cameras, thinking that you could see me.

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

I want to tell the audience that if you want to have some fun, I think it was probably year two or three of the podcast. You and I did some of the funniest shows. You tried to be a magician, a ventriloquist, a tightrope walker, a clown. I mean, oh. And then your work as a mime is famous.

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

Classic. Classic. People were amazed that they could not see anything or hear anything.

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you so much for uh being patient through this uh last interview, uh, last opportunity to thank you for being an audience listener, to thank people like Bob Worley and Bob Stovener that helped keep this going, and all the really talented people from the industry, from the comics to the club owners to old staff members and friends. It has been such an honor to reconnect with all the people in this amazing industry we call stand-up. And I want to reiterate, and Bob's alluded to it, it's a really tough road, especially to success. And I've been blessed to work with some of the one percenters that made uh millions and got famous. But I also appreciate and want to thank the thousands of people that are in this industry that never get famous, never made a ton of money, but they did it for the love. For the love. Because they're artists. Yeah, as an well, that's true, though. It's because they're artists and it's in their soul. I think that's a good point. Anyway, so ladies and gentlemen, uh Bob, you're the the host. Any final message or word for our listening audience? Scott, it's been an honor.

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

No, I say we just wrap this thing up. Thanks for listening, everybody. It's been a lot of fun. And Scott, thanks for uh inviting me to do this. It was fun.

Final Thanks And Where To Find More

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for being a listener. And for the few people that hear the actual end of the show, uh God bless you. Now the time has come. Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. Uh, this is the final show. The podcast will stay out in the airwaves forever, but this is the final news show. We hope you enjoyed it. And uh enjoy your life.

Speaker 2 Bob Worley

Tell your friends, listen for the new ones.

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

Yeah, and hey, stay connected to stand-up comedy. It really is uh uh can help your open your heart and soul to uh using through laughter, right?

Announcer

Yeah, wrap it up, Scott.

Speaker R. Scott Edwards

All right, sorry. Bye, everybody.

Announcer

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