Monday Memory: Magnum, P.I. (w/ Saturday Morning Mafia)

What’s up, dudes? I’ve got Todd and Michael from the Saturday Morning Mafia here to talk “Magnum P.I.”! There’s an art heist, a military training drill, and that sweet, sweet, Selleck ‘stache! Hawaiian shirts and leis abound! Oh yeah! There’s a voice over, too! Grab some popcorn and check it out! Good times to the Max!

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Transcript

SPEAKER_06 0:00

Who's gonna order gunnery exercises on cousin leave? We're talking back to eye. Tom Sellick was a private investigator in Hawaii. I'm your host, Jerry D with another episode of Totally Rad Christmas, the podcast that talks all things Christmas in the 80s, toys, movies, specials, music, and fads. If it was gnarly during Christmas in the 80s, we got it covered. Now joining me are two Totally Rad Christmas All-Stars. You'll know them as the host of the Tubular Christmas Clatter podcast, the author of the Bodacious Wonderful World of Nothing blog, and two-thirds of the radical Saturday morning mafia, Todd and Michael. Guys, how's it going?

SPEAKER_02 1:29

Going well. Good. How are you?

SPEAKER_06 1:31

I'm doing great. How's your uh week been so far?

SPEAKER_03 1:34

It's Thursday.

SPEAKER_06 1:35

We're so it's going.

SPEAKER_02 1:37

Yeah, I've been working a lot of hours at my regular nine to five, so it's been been crazy.

SPEAKER_06 1:43

Uh, overtime's pretty good, huh?

SPEAKER_02 1:44

Oh, yeah, yeah. The overtime has been good.

SPEAKER_06 1:47

Good.

SPEAKER_02 1:47

Uh starting to wear me out. It used to not bother me, but uh I'm feeling it at my older age now.

SPEAKER_06 1:54

I definitely understand that. Uh most of the season I I'm I work like 10 to 6 and it's no big deal. And then starting like around October, we start working like you know, from from eight to six, and then in November, there's a few days where we go like eight to eight thirty and things like that. And so it's yeah, it gets to be in the heat of the the season when it's like packed and and you know you're just trying to help as many people as you can. It it definitely wears you out, and and we work you know six days a week at that point too.

SPEAKER_02 2:25

So it's just yeah, yep. We um we were still trying to dig out from this fiasco that was Christmas, and we had a big cold snap with you know highs as you know 10 degrees for highs, and then we got like eight inches of snow dropped on us. So that slowed everything down.

SPEAKER_06 2:44

Well, God bless you and all the work that you guys do. Yes, because I was able to get my packages delivered, so thank you. Oh man, guys, Magnum PI.

SPEAKER_02 3:18

What are you uh like what are you gonna experience in the shows that like I said before it was the white show, I don't remember what kind of the week it came on. But my my main experience with it, I don't remember a whole lot from the show. I remember watching it stupid just with the with the dogs and things. I think my biggest takeaway from Magnum PI was like my first inclination that people would have celebrity crushes because my mom had a Tom Sellick t-shirt. Just thought it was strange that she was married to my dad, but she wore a shirt with Tom Sellick on it. It's like, what's that we all about? So you know, there was probably comments made here or there that I did not understand, but got by a tone, and and you know, it was one of those like baseball t-shirts that had like yellow three-quarter length sleeves, and it was white, like this little heavy iron on of Tom Stellick in the red blue-flowered Hawaiian shirt.

SPEAKER_06 4:22

The the classic shirt. I think that shirt's in the uh Smithsonian now.

SPEAKER_02 4:26

That's what I've heard, and uh and so that was like my my first inclination that you know people get crazy over their celebrities. And of course, I remember liking the show as a kid, you know, especially the action scenes and that kind of stuff. Yeah, but as far as like plot details or specific episodes, I don't know if I remember any.

SPEAKER_06 4:46

Yeah, and I'm kind of in the same boat because I I have like I I remembered Higgins, like you know, the the banter, and and not that I you know knew what banter was, but I remember them going back and forth. And I always thought he he just he hated Magnum, and it he doesn't really hate him, it's more he's kind of annoyed with him, and then they kind of respect each other. You know, there's like a mutual respect that's kind of there. But as a kid, I remember my thought, wow, this guy hates this other guy. I mean, like he just hates Magnum. And and of course, the shirt is classic. And I just remember his his red car, and I always thought it was like so cool. It's like, man, this guy's cool. That was like my thought. It was like him and like Michael Knight and and with Bruce Willis from Moonlighting. I mean, those guys, they were just like the like the cool guys, like wow. I just I always remember that, but really, other than that, there was a lot I didn't remember. Like, I'd forgotten that there was voiceover, even right.

SPEAKER_02 5:41

That I did remember, oh but I didn't remember like his buddies' names or anything like that. Yeah. Then it was like, oh yeah, that's right.

SPEAKER_03 5:51

Well, I was in a we went to Hawaii when I was, I think, a junior in high school, and it was probably two years after the series ended. And my dad, my brother, and I did a helicopter, nice, and they the guy had it painted just like the Magnum PI.

SPEAKER_06 6:07

Just like TC's chopper.

SPEAKER_03 6:09

Yeah, yeah, which was awesome. So that was that was kind of man.

SPEAKER_06 6:15

You have like all the cool stories. You you got to sit in kit, you got to fly in TC's chopper. I mean, but I have pictures of none of them, so just take back for what it is. Pixar didn't happen. Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_02 6:30

I did have a little like hot wheels of TC's chopper. It's like you know, and that but that as far as like toys or anything, that's the only thing I had, and I don't even remember where it came from, to tell you the truth.

SPEAKER_06 6:44

But you know, it's funny because I think Tom Sellick really made being a private investigator cool again, you know, like like back in the 30s and 40s, you had you know, like Sam Spade and you know, or or you know, all that kind of thing, you know, and it's just you know, Humphrey Brogart, and and I mean it's just it was all that that kind of thing, and it was you know dark and moody and and they were rough and yeah, but he kind of made him like with Magnum PI, I feel like he kind of made him like really every man, and he was you know, he was because he's a really easy going kind of guy. It's right very and so it's just it's so funny to me that to see that the two back, you know, compared to each other, and and it's just there's uh there's really no comparison. I mean, it's it's yeah, Humphrey Bogart over here, and then Tom Sellick over here. It's like uh yeah, okay, they're both tough guys, but in like crazy different ways.

SPEAKER_05 7:37

Yep, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 7:38

So I that was always my takeaway. It's like he's like, whoa, he's a he's a private investigator that wears a Hawaiian shirt. Yeah, and I don't remember him using a gun very much.

SPEAKER_02 7:51

No, no, I don't I don't either. I I don't even remember that much fighting in the show, but I remember the action scenes really got me, but I think a lot of times they were just like canned footage of the helicopter going for a dive or something.

SPEAKER_06 8:06

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yep, that's exactly right. Well, one thing I was reading was that uh the show kind of made it kind of took away the stigma of being a Vietnam vet, which I thought was really cool because a lot of movies and shows up to that point had showed a lot of the vets coming back and not adjusting to the world very well. And in this case, you know, all three of them because because they all served together, Rick, T C and Magnum, they were all vets, and they all seemed to just be doing just fine. And so my understanding is that a lot of a lot of veterans actually appreciated that and and the way they're portrayed. So I thought that that's really cool because that's again something you don't really see a lot of, especially from that era.

SPEAKER_03 8:49

So yeah, no, the early 80s, no, it was Vietnam was a big deal, like the A team.

SPEAKER_02 8:56

Well, in these two episodes, they talk about Vietnam pretty openly, too. Yeah, it was a hush-hush. Yeah, I know. I had a I had an uncle so that served in Vietnam, and for a long time it was nothing he talked about to anybody. And you know, within the past, I don't know, 10 or 15 years, he's opened up to his brother my dad about it, you know, somewhat. You know, that's that's his business and something he unfortunately has to do with, you know, but they were able to you know talk about it openly things that happened and stuff, which I I could see where that could give a lot of people some a boost to do it themselves if they needed to.

SPEAKER_06 9:37

Yeah, for sure. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 9:39

TV movie movies have that kind of influence.

SPEAKER_06 9:41

I was you know, it's funny because there's a the the long everybody knows that that that Tom Sellick was up for Indiana Jones. Hello, Murphy.

SPEAKER_00 9:52

Look, I did what I did. I don't expect you to be happy about it, but maybe it can do us both some good.

SPEAKER_01 9:58

Why start shut up? Shut up and listen to me. Now I need that piece your father had.

SPEAKER_06 10:03

And you know, he would have gotten it if he hadn't, you know, if he hadn't started this. And it's one of those where I think I would have liked to have seen his Indiana Jones, but at the same time, I mean it's Harrison Ford now is so ingrained in my mind that I don't I don't think I could I don't think I could watch it. And I've seen the test footage of him with uh Sean Young, you know, when when they were doing that that chemistry reading and all that, and and I like it, but it's definitely a different Indiana Jones. Yeah, and I don't know if it would have been quite as successful.

SPEAKER_03 10:39

There is an episode, I think it's season eight, where he basically is Indiana Jones, and he's got the he's got the hat, he's got the coat or jacket. Right. So look at that, look at that one, and it's it's a little bit it's a little different, but it I mean it's obviously supposed to be Indiana Jones.

SPEAKER_06 10:59

Is this is this your favorite uh Tom Sellick?

SPEAKER_03 11:01

Yeah, I I mean I I like his new the newer cop show oh well uh where he's the blue blood cheaper, yeah. But you know, there there's there's three men a baby, which you know, very good. But no, this is this is Tom Sellick for me.

SPEAKER_06 11:18

Yeah, I gotcha. It's funny because uh, you know, the other day we were talking about Runaway. And uh that's what I remember. Like uh of course I remember him from Magnum PI, but I actually remember him most from two movies. One of them was was Runaway from I believe 1984, where he's like a a cop in a quasi futuristic era where you know kind of thing where he basically takes care of like robots that have gone crazy or have malfunctioned, and he has to fight Gene Simmons, who's the villain. And I watched it the other day, it does not really hold up at all. I I remember as a kid be I can't imagine as a kid being scared of the robotic spiders, but it was still awesome to watch. I still enjoyed it. But I remember from that one, and then there was another one from I think like 88 or 89, something like that, called Her Alibi, where he plays a mystery writer. And yeah, um, and that one it's again, it's like a romantic comedy thriller kind of spoof, whatever. And it's it's just yeah, it's not a good movie, but man, I love that movie, you know. But I know it's not a good movie, and so to me, when I think of Tom Selleck, I always think of those first, but I think his most iconic role is has got to be this, you know, from the show.

SPEAKER_02 12:36

I you know, yeah, I I I agree with that, and I remember him from those things as well. Quigley Down Thunder was a scale.

SPEAKER_03 12:44

That's right, yes.

SPEAKER_02 12:45

At our house, my dad watched that I think every weekend on VHS. And one I really enjoyed a lot, uh, and I don't know how well it holds up is uh Mr. Baseball.

SPEAKER_06 12:56

I don't think I know that one.

SPEAKER_02 12:58

Oh that's where he yeah, he plays a uh kind of like a over the hill baseball player, and they for the Detroit Kers. Gee, I wonder why I wonder and and they send him to Japan to play in the Japanese League to try to get his mojo back, so it's kind of like a fish out of water comedy thing, you know, because he's so tall and big, and their culture is a little bit more short in stature and then different styles of baseball, and and it I remember I haven't seen it in years, but I remember it being really funny.

SPEAKER_03 13:38

Nice. Look for that. I I I know I saw it years ago, but I I want to see it again.

SPEAKER_06 13:44

I'm gonna have to check it out for sure. Like the more you talk about it, like it's vaguely coming back to me, but I don't think I ever saw it.

SPEAKER_02 13:51

I think I just remembered it has the uh he has the actor that does the uh all state commercials, the voiceover, and he was in 24.

SPEAKER_06 13:59

Oh, yeah, yeah. I know who you're talking about.

SPEAKER_02 14:01

And yeah, I believe that's him in there. I could be completely wrong.

SPEAKER_06 14:06

Well, he was a Ser Serrano in the Major League. Yes, yes, Serrano want to bet. Right.

SPEAKER_02 14:15

I think it's been it's been years, if not, you know. Totally read Christmas podcast on Twitter, just volume up.

SPEAKER_06 14:23

There you go. Yeah, yeah, we'll totally we'll totally hit him up, see what he has to say. There you go. Oh man. So Magnum PI debuted in 1980, which I thought was kind of cool, December 11th, and it ran for eight seasons. In fact, it was only gonna run for seven. They even had a like a full series finale and everything, and then it got picked up again for another season, and so they were able to make it last one more time, and then I think they ended it on a not quite a cliffhanger, but they kind of left it open-ended on on its final ending in season eight there. But the thing I like about it is that it does have two what I think are pretty good Christmas episodes, honestly. I mean, I don't know if there'd be a part of my Christmas canon, but I could definitely see myself watching them in the future. So the first one's from season season one.

SPEAKER_00 15:19

Thursday, Magnum is hired by some schoolgirls to find their missing teacher. There is just no limit to their imagination. And once again, Magnum is in over 10. I think I can explain this old Magnum. Christmas in Hawaii with Magnum Thursday at night, eight ten for the month.

SPEAKER_06 15:38

And it's it's called Thank Heaven for Little Girls and Big Ones Too. And it's a it's a play on an old learner in low, a song from a learner and low movie Gigi. Sung uh the song itself was sung by Maurice Chevalier, who's a like a like famous French singer at the time, which I always thought the song was kind of creepy myself. And so when I heard the name of the title of this the episode, I thought, oh no, what's going on? But luckily, you know, it's it's Magnum PI, so it's not gonna be that bad.

SPEAKER_02 16:04

There is some creepy in there.

SPEAKER_06 16:06

There, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 16:08

But it's you know what that was only, I think, the fourth episode ever. It was of Magnum. And so the the music is different. It is intro music, the intro scenes are different, the font is different. I mean, it it really they changed.

SPEAKER_06 16:25

Uh yeah, they hadn't quite gotten into their groove yet. No, nope. Which you know, it's it's I like to see shows like that. You know, you're you they really take them a while, you know, to get into it, but once they do, you know, then they they generally hit their stride, and and it's you know, it's really great. Yeah, and this was yeah, this show again was no different. They were kind of learning, still learning their characters, still things were still not quite, you know, locked into that perfectly, you know, the the chemistry, you know, wasn't quite locked in yet, kind of a thing. But yeah, there was this one, and then in season four, there was Operation Silent Night, which is another one that that was pretty good. And that one's I don't want to say it's a bottle episode, but it's almost like like what they would consider a bottle episode, you know, where everybody's just stuck in one room essentially, and in this case, they're stuck on like an island. These ones, I I gotta be honest, I don't recall the specific episodes at all. And so seeing them again was kind of really cool. It was almost like seeing it for the first time, although I remembered bits and pieces, like I remembered him in the Santa suit that always stuck out to me. But that was it. I I couldn't have told you anything else about the plot. I just remember seeing Tom Sellick in a Santa suit. The first one, though, I I had no recollection of at all. No, but I guess let's go ahead and dive right in. Okay, all right. So we'll start off with uh that's season one, episode four. And in this case, Magnum is hired by some little girls to find their missing teacher, or so we think. Dun dun dun. Of course, it starts off, you know, he and Higgins are getting into it. Higgins' dogs, they're Doberman's, right? Zeus and Apollo.

SPEAKER_05 17:58

Zeus and Apollo, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 18:00

And so they're you know, again, right away we get classic between between he and Higgins, where he wants to get wine from the wine cellar and Higgins won't let him, but that's when he gets the call, and so he goes to meet this unknown client. It's it's like an anonymous call that Rick gives him, you know, says just meet him at this place, and so he goes, and these little girls show up and they say, Hey, our teacher's missing, and you know, we can pay you, you know, please find her.

SPEAKER_03 18:29

But uh she should she shouldn't be punished for her passion. I love that.

SPEAKER_06 18:33

That's that's right, because they tell her they tell him basically that she ran off with like some not beach bum, but like surf bum. Is that what they say? Yeah, pretty yeah, so like like surfer bro, yeah, uh higher class description of him, but by the end it was pretty much just beach bum.

SPEAKER_03 18:57

It didn't they also say this isn't the first time, right?

SPEAKER_06 19:00

They did say that, yeah. So and you know, it's funny because uh, you know, they're like normally it's it's no big deal, but our headmaster is coming back tomorrow to spend Christmas with us because we're on vacation here, and so we need her here, like she can't not be here, otherwise she'll get in trouble. And that's when you get that line that you said. So he agrees because he's you know kind of a big softie, which is funny. He really, yeah, he really is. And so he, you know, it turns out they're gonna pay him with the deposit for their hotel. So they checked out of the hotel, now they have no place to stay, and so he has to take him back to uh Robin Masters' estate, who which is where he's living. Higgins, who we've mentioned before, is the head of security for Robin Masters, who's an author, is that right? Yep, he's an author, yeah. And uh it's implied that Magnum like helped him out with something, and so he's letting Magnum stay at at his place. And I guess one of the running gags of the show is that you know he and Higgins kind of quarrel about you know how far he can go and what he can use and things like that. And and Higgins kind of resents, at least at this point, he kind of resents the fact that he's staying there and he's like a freeloader.

SPEAKER_03 20:17

And there's there's a there's Higgins says, I think it's early in this episode, it should be his his motto, guests leave.

SPEAKER_06 20:26

Yes, yeah, guests leave. Yes, which is you know that is true.

SPEAKER_03 20:33

He's not Magnum isn't leaving.

SPEAKER_06 20:35

No, no. So he convinces Higgins to let them stay, and while they're there, they notice that Robin Masters has just bought a new Gau Gan. And so it's you know, he's very proud of it. He paid like, what was it, two million pounds or something like that? Marks two million marks, yeah. That's what it was, yeah. Uh, for this Gogan, and you know, he it's all rigged, there's you know, an alarm on it, things like that, and you know, right away the girls touch it, and we quickly find out that it's because they plan to go there because they're gonna steal it. In the meantime, they give Magnum like a false lead to go follow, you know, right? And so, yeah, exactly. And so he he picks up T C is like, Hey, let's go to dinner, and and so they they are able to go to this to I guess a CD part of town to go investigate. And TC right away is like, Yeah, man, this is another one of your cases, isn't it?

SPEAKER_03 21:36

Which I love. Well, I I like that that part of their their relationship was keyed in so early because he's always uh given him grief.

SPEAKER_06 21:47

Yes, yeah. So and so they they investigate and they discover that yeah, the the bartender has seen a girl, a blonde lady, like kind of like that with the the Hawaiian guy. And you know, maybe you know that address that you have is for a place upstairs. Yeah. And of course they go upstairs, and it's well, let's just say it's it's very seedy and uh a little disreputable. There's a guy there, the main guy, who's just like boxing, he's like like practicing, you know, on a punching bag. And you know, once they start asking too many questions, he doesn't like that. And shenanigans ensue, and a fight breaks out, and next thing we see, they're they're running out of the place and his shirt's torn. I don't know if you noticed that. I did. Oh man, yeah. This this was great because then when he when as they're driving away and he's they're like telling him, you know, uh Magnum's telling TC, hey, you know, what's going on? TC's like, let me out. Just just pull over, let me out, getting out. And he does, and he does, he does, yeah. But you know, he's in a time crunch because he thinks he's got to find this lady before tomorrow, and so he pretty much leaves him there, not knowing that the boss, the Hawaiian boss of the the guys that just beat him up, want him to investigate and find out who's asking questions about him.

SPEAKER_02 23:11

Right, a blonde lady with a Hawaiian guy is probably pretty common.

SPEAKER_05 23:16

Yeah, that's yep.

SPEAKER_06 23:24

And so he he sends his goons after him. Turns out they pick up TC and you know, I guess put the screws to him. Meanwhile, Magnum doesn't like being taken for a ride, so he goes to the hotel to see if he can find any clues about the lady. Turns out their teacher has is hasn't left her room all night, and so as he's talking to her, he you know, she kind of tells him a story how the little girls do this everywhere they go. They kind they say I've run away, and then they just want to go be on their own and have their own adventure, whatever. And he's not buying it, especially once she gets a phone call while he's there. He's like, Okay, so he starts putting two and two together. He's like, Something's not right here. Yeah, and so he takes her, he takes her to Robin Master's place, and that's when they catch the girls in the act trying to steal the painting. Like turns out the lady's in trouble, she or you know, the teacher, whatever. Yeah, she kind of helped not counterfeit, but uh, I guess what's what's the word? She helped authenticate a fake painting of the Gauguin, and it's like part of a whole fraud scheme by this this guy, this investor that sold a painting because he had to, but he didn't want to, and so it was like part of a plan to get it back or whatever. And so the one that Higgins was protecting was a fake, and they were gonna replace it with the real one so that you know they wouldn't get in trouble or anything like that. Anyway, Higgins doesn't believe him, but Magnum convinces them hey, you know, it's Christmas, it's okay, don't get the police involved, and so they go home, and you know, no harm, no foul, essentially. You have the real painting, it's cool. And as they're going back to the hotel, they're greeted by the former owner with a gun, holding him at gunpoint, and so he kidnaps the girls and locks them away in well, it wasn't a bomb shelter. What was it?

SPEAKER_03 25:17

It was I don't know, someplace it's yeah, kind of World War II bomb bunker or something, something like yeah, some sort of bunker.

SPEAKER_02 25:24

Yeah, they get to 130 degrees on there and kill them.

SPEAKER_06 25:27

Yes, yeah, exactly. He's basically he's gonna bake them to death, to death. Yeah, he locks them in, there's no air and no ventilation, it's just you know, they're gonna be oh superheated, and unless she gives them the painting, in which case then he'll tell her where they are. So they they have to steal the painting, essentially, from from Higgins. They kind of tell him, Look, hey, we're gonna borrow it, whatever. We got to rescue the girls. They convince him somehow. I I still don't know how they manage to convince him to do it, but right they convince him to to let him take the painting and they arrange for this elaborate plot, essentially, where Rick is kind of scuba diving. He's he's like the the I don't know, spy, I guess. And so Magnum plants the the painting at like the stadium or or Coliseum type thing, and with the big pool, and Rick's you know, this the spy, and the gangster will grab the painting and then call them with the whereabouts, right? And that's like that's the plan. Before they can go through with it, though they're captured by the Hawaiian guys and his associates. He's like, Why are you asking, you know, about my why are you trying to find my girl?

SPEAKER_02 26:43

Yeah, right. And there's a mix-up. The the the Hawaiian gangster's like, Why are you trying to find me and my girlfriend? And they're like, We're not us trying to find her, and he wouldn't labels. So then Magnum, you know, starts spinning this yarn off top of his head about how his right-hand guy who was doing you know, working the heavy bag at the gym was you know peeling off the top, and the guy bought it just happened to be true. Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_06 27:11

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, he's like, I've been a successful businessman, and you know, the last couple of months or whatever, I've you know, some money is starting to gone to go missing, and a few things here and there, and now people you know, some private eyes are looking for my girl. I don't get it, and right so I just I love how he tells them the truth. He's like, Let me tell you the truth, and he says it in a way that you think he's lying, but it's the actual truth. Right. Everyone, every Higgins is like, Oh, that's you know, sounds like Bologna, and even even TC is like, please don't tell that story.

SPEAKER_02 27:47

And when the when when I first get there, Magnum's like, I can explain everything, and Higgins is like, No, you can't, no, you can't. It's like the writers of this episode knew how ridiculous the storyline was gonna be.

SPEAKER_06 28:01

That's exactly right. It's so funny because the girls literally is like standing next to it, like, no, I was looking for her. This is the blood I was looking for, and they don't believe him. Right. So, yeah, he spins a whole yarn, turns out to be true. They're they let him go, and they're able to go to that coliseum and put the gaugin, you know, the the real go gain, because uh instead of using the fake like they wanted to, Higgins actually threw it away, and so they have to use the real one, so they they hide it there, and as the guy goes to get it and drives away, Rick, who had been you know kind of under the water, observant, he gets out and follows him, and they tail him to the airport where they're able to make a switch by holding him up in the the security line, yeah, and so they switch out the real, you know, the real ones. They're also able to go and save the girls at this point because he had told them where they were.

SPEAKER_02 28:56

And and the youngest girl starts weirdly singing the 12 days of Christmas, the 12 days of Christmas, yeah. They're all baking slowly, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 29:06

Really gotta do something while you're baking slowly.

SPEAKER_02 29:09

Really bizarre, kind of creepy.

SPEAKER_06 29:14

Well, I I think what's even creepier is when she goes, You're wonderful, Mr. Magno. It's like, oh no, she's got a crush on him. Yeah, yeah, exactly. They save the day, they convince, they convince Higgins not to press charges, and he's gonna like call the police and or tell Mr. Masters, you know, about it that, like, hey, you know, yes, he gave away your gaugain, he did this, he did this, you're gonna want to kick him out. But in the end, he says, Oh, yeah, I don't know if you'd uh you know if you want to tell if you want him to know that uh five little girls beat your security system, exactly, and so he's able to kind of blackmail his way essentially.

SPEAKER_02 29:54

It's I do have one question about this episode, and I don't know if it's a 1980s thing or if it's a Hawaiian thing, but the whole time in the airport PC standing there with a shirt on, but completely unbuttoned.

SPEAKER_06 30:08

That was yeah, that was a 1980s thing, yeah. Because there was there was there's several movies where where that happens, you know, just yeah, just open open shirts.

SPEAKER_02 30:17

It's like, wait a minute, and uh that pre-9-11 airport security.

SPEAKER_06 30:22

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That wasn't gonna fly, yeah. But I do like how TC standing there. He's while they're waiting for the guy to get there. It's funny because he's looking, you know, he's he's looking at some lays, you know, the flower lay. He just keeps like, like, do you have any any ones that are macho, like like more manly ones? So the girl shows up when he's like, No, no, no, no, like a more macho one.

SPEAKER_02 30:47

He's looking around like trying to find the guy, you know. And then Rick's the only one that knows what he looks like, so it's like that's right, he's the only one that's like Rick sees him and he whistles, you know, like Steve Martin and three amigos.

SPEAKER_06 31:48

Oh, man. It would this I think of the two, this one was more Christmassy.

SPEAKER_03 31:53

I agree.

SPEAKER_06 31:54

I I mean the other one's Christmassy too. They sing silent night at the end. He's in, you know, he goes to get a tree in their Santo. But this one, I mean, there's there's Christmas trees, even the the gangsters hide out, or or not gangster, the the Hawaiians hide out. Is there's garland and stuff hanging?

SPEAKER_03 32:10

I mean, it's just uh the when early on Higgins actually says bar humbug. He does, yes, he does. Which, of course, I could I had to pause the movie and think, okay, now who would be what if they were doing a Christmas carol? But that's another conversation for another time. And there was it sounded like a 64-bit version of a Christmas music at the like a Christmas disco when they first got into the bar. There's Christmas music playing. So yeah, I think this one was more. I I'll I'll show you a couple of points where the second episode we're gonna talk about could have been more Christmassy. But yeah, this one was I mean, again, uh Magnum says at the very beginning of this episode, it's not Hawaii, it's not Christmas in Hawaii. It's not, you know, you have to think that it's Christmas, you have to hear things, you know, to get that.

SPEAKER_06 33:04

I totally get. I mean, I'm from Texas here, and well, I'm you know, most and you're from California, yeah. I mean, most of our Christmases are like 70 degrees, 80 degrees, you know. So it's it's very rare that I mean now that I live in North Texas, it's a little bit more common, but it's very rare that it would get lower than like 50. You know, that was usually it was that was cold, it was in the 50s, you know. Yeah, well, yeah, exactly. Because we were used to you know, 70s and 80s. That's that's cold. Yeah, yep.

SPEAKER_02 33:32

So I think this one's more Christmas in appearance, and and uh, but I think the second one might be more Christmas in messages, like feelings, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 33:43

Feelings, yeah. Yeah, I I get that, yeah, for sure. But I like this one. I I this was a fun episode. I mean, you know, here and there they're a couple of bits that you can tell they're still trying to figure out the show, and and yeah, definitely the theme song was different and kind of distracting.

SPEAKER_03 33:58

Yes, yeah, it's not the same. It was like, uh what is this?

SPEAKER_02 34:01

Yeah, I saw this intro, it's like it I it wasn't anything I knew or familiar with, but when I watched the intro of the second one, it's like I knew every scene, exactly.

SPEAKER_06 34:12

Yes, yeah, same here, same here. And I guess the first nine episodes were done with this original theme song, and then it was changed later on to the one that we know. And it's glad they did. I'm glad they did because it it's better, it's a better sound.

SPEAKER_03 34:27

That theme song has been my rings ring tone since like basically since Christmas ended.

SPEAKER_06 34:33

Oh, nice! So it's funny that we're doing this right on. Yeah, I liked it though. I you know, like I said, I don't think this is going in my Christmas canon, but I can definitely see myself like, oh, I want to watch this kind of you know again. Yeah, the next one though, Operation Silent Night, that one I like because there's a lot more character development.

SPEAKER_05 34:54

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_06 34:54

So in this first one's while they're still trying to grab their bearings and you know, they're still trying to find their characters and figure out how the show's gonna work, work. In this case, they've been doing it now for for four seasons. Yep, and so you can tell the the relationships are there, they're more in tune with their characters. I mean, even Magnum was a lot more laid back. He's like, ah, don't worry about it, it'll you know, it'll happen, and he's gonna he'll fix it in an hour, and you know, that kind of a thing. Yeah, and you can Higgins was like the very British kind of oh, when I was trapped on such and such island, yeah. I mean, just everything about it, you know, and I'm like the characters are the ones that I recognize, I guess I should say.

SPEAKER_02 35:34

Yeah, so I I was gonna say I agree with that because Higgins was you know, he's gotten to the point where he was the big storyteller, and just everybody was just you know, the rag and gag was just get to the point, you know, the whole thing. Yes, yeah, and I remember you know, kind of remember that from the from the episode, and and and them, you know, always picking on Rick like they do, and yes, yeah, that's right, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 36:00

Yeah, and doesn't uh doesn't TC always call him like Higgy Baby or something like that? Yes, he does, yeah, yep.

SPEAKER_03 36:07

It's better than Huggins.

SPEAKER_06 36:09

Huggins, yeah, yeah. That is the last, yeah. The little girls call him Mr. Huggins. No, and this one there's this the plot of this one's a lot more straightforward than the other one, where the other one has to do with like a heist and trying to replace us, you know, whatever, whatever. This one is TC is basically just dropping the guys off at their different Christmas engagements, but as they're doing that, the helicopter something malfunctions and they land on a beach that's usually used for gunnery practice by the Navy. And that's really that's really the plot. They have to escape, they have to get off. That's it. It it's almost very uh what's that uh flight of the Phoenix, and I think they even mentioned that in the yeah in the episode, don't they? Where they basically they have to figure out a way to get off there, of course. Then they they see the flares and realize that gunnery practice is happening, and so they really have to get off there fast, but but that's later on. They did, yeah, they did, they did, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 37:09

Yeah, well, you know, it's a show. Yeah, exactly. Just you look at the clock and it's oh yeah, yeah, it's gonna start now.

SPEAKER_06 37:15

Yeah, it that's exactly right, yeah. But I like it. Magnum was gonna go to what was it, an orphanage or a hospital?

SPEAKER_02 37:21

I don't recall, but I think it was an orphanage, and yeah, had a finger involved because they they kind of harassed him about uh doing it for the teacher as well.

SPEAKER_06 37:30

For the teacher, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, but he was gonna play Santa for a bunch of kids and uh essentially deliver them presents and things like that, and so that's where he was going. Rick was or T C was gonna go visit his family. I don't remember where Higgins was gonna go.

SPEAKER_02 37:46

He was going to the banana plantation to give the workers Christmas bonuses.

SPEAKER_06 37:51

Oh, bonuses, yeah, that's that's right. Okay, and Rick, I think, was going to was it a beauty contest?

SPEAKER_03 37:56

The Santa's little helper beauty contest.

SPEAKER_06 37:58

That's okay, yeah, yeah. That's Rick. Yep. Exactly. Oh man, and so yeah, the chopper malfunctions, they go down, they're trying to figure it out. And I love how in the the this heat, all this heat, Magnum still has the Santa suit on. Like, like I don't know how he I literally would have been in like shorts and t-shirt, and before it was time to get there, it's like okay, I'd change real quick. But yeah, but but they're there on the island, and he's just like he still has the beard, he's got the whole suit and the hat, and I'm like, aren't you hot? Like, that was the only thing I could think of. This guy must be burning up, yeah. But I I guess not. I don't know how I mean I've never been to Hawaii, so I don't know if there's nice breezes, or I mean, I imagine there is.

SPEAKER_03 38:43

There probably is, and probably the helicopter. I mean the helicopter would you know be a nice breeze, but when you land, I'm thinking it would get pretty toasty.

SPEAKER_06 38:54

Yeah, yeah. But it's it's funny because uh Rick's kind of freaking out, you know. He's he he's like, I'm gonna miss my show, or you know, everybody else is just you know, okay. Higgins immediately be gets some palm fronds and starts weaving a hat for himself.

SPEAKER_02 39:09

Very nice hat.

SPEAKER_06 39:11

It is nice, yeah. He's he's great at that weaving. And TC, uh, I like the because he talks about Kwanzaa in it, which is really cool too. Because I didn't realize that was uh a thing at this time.

SPEAKER_03 39:22

That must have been one of the first pop culture references to it. That's what I would assume.

SPEAKER_06 39:30

Yeah, yeah. I I would think I didn't remember that.

SPEAKER_02 39:34

They kind of gave like a quick definition of yeah, they did, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 39:38

So that that's really cool too. Because you still even today, you don't get a whole lot of like you said, pop culture references to it. No, so so that was really neat. But right away, Higgins goes exploring, and basically most of the show is is them like exploring the island, trying to get off, Rick complaining about everything about everything trying to get off, you know, bugs. There, there's a whole thing with the with the bugs, and several they they keep teasing him about you know the bugs on him until finally there really is one. It's what a praying mantis, I think.

SPEAKER_02 40:16

I mean, and a legit one too, not a not a it was huge. Yeah, it was pretty big. I saw his leg, little his little leg was kicking on a bit close up.

SPEAKER_06 40:27

He's like, whatever, like I'm I'm not buying it. Of course, then he goes off screen and you hear, ah, yeah. But there's a lot of cool bits in this. They find I like how they find the Japanese plane, probably from when they were bombing Pearl Harbor, and and there's a really cool thing where basically they're like, No, we need to bury him because you know he's someone's family, he was just following his orders, and and I thought that's really cool, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 40:52

Yeah, Magnum, like he's a soldier too. He might be on the other side, but he was a soldier too.

SPEAKER_06 40:58

He was a soldier, yeah, exactly. And so so they bury him. Higgins, of course, is like, oh, that's reminds me of when I was trapped on an island in such and such place, and I was able to turn the hull of the ship into a a nice little sailboat, and so he immediately begins.

SPEAKER_02 41:17

We get a lot done in what is probably what 12 hours just a couple of hours, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 41:21

I mean, yeah, you yeah, but I actually wrote that down. Like, what was the time frame? Because yeah, yeah, there should be night here. Some you know, there.

SPEAKER_02 41:31

I mean, yeah, they were running late because they had overcooked all the helicopter ride rides, yes, yeah, that's right. So, you know, he'd been flying all day, so it it had to be noon at the earliest, you know. Yeah, yeah, I would think three or four o'clock would be. Yeah, I agree. Yeah, and it was midnight when they got out because the the Navy ship said they were gonna start firing at midnight, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 41:57

On Christmas, yeah. Yep, and so yeah, while all this is going on, we cut to that ship and they decide they're gonna go ahead and do operations, and you know, they're they targeted certain areas that aren't really targeted very often, and you know, that kind of a thing. We we have a few spots, and so that's like the the whole thing is that they gotta get this done quick because if they don't, but in their minds, they they don't know anything about it. I mean, obviously that they're on a you know, they're on a boat on a ship far away, and so they don't they don't realize this is going on, and so they're like, Yeah, okay, don't worry, we'll take our time. And soon until they see the first flare, and then they're like, Oh crap, we gotta get out of here, basically. But Higgins he makes his boat, he tries it, and it fails, fails miserably, and so he starts feeling really like depressed and basically starts writing a will, you know, like oh man, there's a funny gag where he's gonna leave oh the bridge of the river quai. Yes, that's what it was. He's his copy of Bridge on the River Kwai to to Magnum. Yep, then he realizes oh, he's probably gonna die here too. So then he changes it. Yeah, he leaves it to Zeus and Apollo, his dogs. That's all right, yeah. All right, hey, they'll watch it, I guess.

SPEAKER_02 43:19

Yeah, I guess another another funny thing about this episode. I think we hear everybody's full name except for TC's, which I just thought was yeah, you right, because it's it's uh it's Orville for Rick. Orville, which he hates. I Orville Richard Wright. That's right, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 43:37

Orville right and uh Thomas Sullivan Magnum.

SPEAKER_02 43:40

Right. Well, I guess we heard Higgins' last name, it was Jonathan Higgins or middle name.

SPEAKER_06 43:45

Jonathan Quail Higgins, yeah, the third.

SPEAKER_02 43:48

Yeah. I don't remember hearing TCs because I was like, what does TC stand for? Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 43:54

Oh yeah, yeah. It and I actually have that if I can find it. Theodore Calvin is his full name. Okay. Yeah, he runs Island Hoppers, the helicopter charter service.

SPEAKER_02 44:06

So they're all nerds.

SPEAKER_06 44:09

Pretty much, yeah. Oh man. But yeah, Rick falls into some what he thinks is quicksand.

SPEAKER_02 44:17

Oh yeah. Classic 80s.

SPEAKER_06 44:21

Yeah, this is another one of those things. There's that meme that goes around where you know when I was younger, I thought quicksand would be a lot more common. This is true. This is like this is another one of those 80s things, just push the quicksand narrative. Well, I wonder how many quicksand, man.

SPEAKER_03 44:35

I wonder how many times people could have been saved if they just stood up when they thought they were in quicksand.

SPEAKER_06 44:40

Well, yeah, yeah. Maybe all this time it was just a little bog. Yeah, just a bog.

SPEAKER_02 44:47

Well, if if someone made a a hall of fame for 1980s stuff, quicksand would be the first ballot hall of fame.

SPEAKER_03 44:54

Quicksand and a floppy disc.

SPEAKER_06 44:56

That's right, yeah. Oh man. Yeah, I just I love it because you know he's all nice in his shirt and you know tucked in. He's got the nice tight tuck and everything. And then, of course, at this point, after he falls in, it's just why even bother at that point. But yep, but I I also love how he gets makes them a meal, and it's some roots, berries, roots and berries that he gathered, and it he made it into like a like a mush kind of soup thing. And he's like, Oh, no one wants seconds. He's like, Oh, it must have been more filling than I thought. It's like, read the room, man, read the room because it's just terrible.

SPEAKER_02 45:41

That's pretty dangerous just to go get some roots and berries and cook up.

SPEAKER_06 45:47

Well, his survival skills, you know, it's I was starting to slip too. They were starting to slip, yeah, because apparently he couldn't even make his boat sail. Eventually, they you know, they pick up the pace, they start figuring out what's wrong, or they think they figure out what's wrong, they're not sure, and then they see the flares, and they're like, Okay, let's go, we gotta just try it, and they're able to get it off. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Helicopter started. And they mentioned that earlier too, when they're like, you know, didn't last time you just like didn't you just like hit it with the hammer? So you whacked it with the hammer and then it worked. That's the they're quote unquote whacking it.

SPEAKER_02 46:30

Just couldn't call that hitting it with a hammer at all.

SPEAKER_06 46:37

Only everything worked like that. Right. Oh man, but I did like while everybody, you know, Rick is getting crazy, Higgins is off doing his own thing. I do like how Malcolm Malcolm, excuse me, how Magnum went and found a Christmas tree for him, essentially, you know. Yes, yeah, of course they all kind of looked at him like he was crazy, but you know, I I thought it was kind of cool that he's still full of the Christmas spirit. Yep.

SPEAKER_02 47:04

You know, the the opening scene of this episode, they were all you know, bickering each other, and then kind of as it goes along and through the dialogue, they kind of you know talk about how they've gotten too busy at the holidays and kind of forget what you know Christmas was about. Yeah, and you know, this whole event on this island kind of helped pull them back to the center of you know what Christmas and Quant are about, and that's why I kind of feel like this one thematically might be more Christmas, but it likes a little bit of Christmas as far as even though there was some music, Christmas music in it, not as much as the other one. And definitely you know island, deserted island, it's not gonna have you know as much Christmas decoration.

SPEAKER_03 47:45

Right. That's there were two parts where TC is working on the helicopter by himself, and he's singing and he's singing gang, yeah. I don't I don't remember what the other one was. Boardwalk. Yes, under the boardwalk, yeah. That'd be the perfect time for Christmas music, right? Yeah, that's you know, but although he was a pretty good singer, I'd say I was impressed.

SPEAKER_06 48:08

Yeah, yeah, I liked it. I like it. I would have liked to, yeah, you're right. I would have liked to have heard him sing like or but maybe not, maybe because he was celebrating Kwanzaa instead. Maybe oh that's true.

SPEAKER_05 48:16

I didn't even think of that.

SPEAKER_06 48:17

Yeah, but yeah, that would have been cool. I would have liked to have heard him sing what's it oh holy night. Yeah, I liked his voice, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 48:26

Yeah, and then uh when Rick falls into the uh oh quicksand says funeral, and you know, yes, that's a great scene. Oh, yeah, and jingle bells playing playing over the top of it in this like funeral organ sound yes version of jingle bells.

SPEAKER_06 48:46

Yeah, it's like one of those classic little church organs.

SPEAKER_02 48:50

Everybody's talking about what a great guy he is, and yeah, that was neat.

SPEAKER_06 48:56

This you're right. This was definitely more of a character building episode, yes, but it had a lot of heart, yeah. And so while the other one was definitely heavier on the decorations, this one I I think just spirit-wise, you're right, yeah, was was definitely a lot heavier. So yeah, I I which is funny because of the two. I think I like this one better.

SPEAKER_02 49:16

Yes, I think you're right. I think I do like this one better. It felt more like the Magnum I remember.

SPEAKER_03 49:22

Yeah, yeah, I agree.

SPEAKER_06 49:23

Yeah, the other one I think was just too early.

SPEAKER_03 49:25

There was a lot of things going on in the first one.

SPEAKER_06 49:28

Well, yeah, that's too. It was it was pretty packed. Yeah, like it was enough for for just you know the the girls and you know the the the kidnapper or whatever. But that's that's enough. But then when they also put brought in the other the other Hawaiian and his girl and his game, I mean that was like a whole other subplot that probably could have been lost and trimmed the fat a little bit. Yeah, yeah. And of course, they finally they make it, they fly away, and as they're flying away, they start singing silent night, which was a great moment. That was one of those, like, that's awesome. Just you know. And I know it's not one of the most Christmassy things, but to me, that's like a classic TV moment. Right. Where you know, they all just kind of in the spirit and and they realize that you they're all friends, and and you know, it like time to slow down. And I mean it really like hit home to me, at least, anyway. It was it was great.

SPEAKER_02 51:02

I agree. And then they they took the like the the light on the helicopter and kind of morphed it into a star and yeah, you know, for Christmas, and that was that was a nice way to end it.

SPEAKER_06 51:13

Yeah, it was it was nice. So Tom Salic actually won an Emmy in 1984 for Magnum PI and uh Higgins, um, what's his name? Hillerman, John Hillerman, he also won an Emmy as well in '87. I mean, this this was a really well done show. It was nominated for so many different uh for for Golden Globes, for Emmys. I mean, it it's quite a quite an achievement there. Apparently, on a couple of years ago, a group of 45 men dressed as Magnum were thrown from a Detroit Tigers game. I don't know if you guys heard about this. No, well, they were smoking and like catcalling women and stuff like that. And but I guess because they were dressed like Magnum PI, it's it gained quite some popularity.

SPEAKER_03 52:00

That's funny.

SPEAKER_06 52:02

I know there were there was a a sequel that was done, or or not a sequel, uh a reboot essentially.

SPEAKER_03 52:08

Yeah, it was pretty good. I mean, I watched I probably six episodes that first year, and it was it was okay. I mean, once you get used to the fact that Higgins was a woman, there's nothing wrong with that, but just how that uh how they related, it was pretty good.

SPEAKER_06 52:24

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_02 52:25

I haven't I I actually forgot that they did that and I hadn't seen any of it at all.

SPEAKER_06 52:30

Yeah, yeah, I I haven't seen it. It was uh Jay Hernandez, I guess, was the uh magnum. Yeah, I don't recognize him from anything.

SPEAKER_03 52:39

I didn't either.

SPEAKER_06 52:40

He wasn't uh he wasn't Flint in the G.I. Joe sequel, was he? I don't rem I don't remember. Anyway, yeah, but uh I know that it was pretty cool because it did cross over with a couple of shows here and there.

SPEAKER_05 52:56

Yes.

SPEAKER_06 52:58

So I know there was a crossover episode with murder she wrote.

SPEAKER_00 53:02

Yep, that's the kind of knowledge that makes me a private investigator and a novelist and a very good one.

SPEAKER_06 53:07

Thank you. I'm sure that normally you're very good at what you do. It's that that's like one of those that you just you don't think of pairing together.

SPEAKER_02 53:16

Like there's only like 1100 episodes of murder.

SPEAKER_06 53:21

That's right. I think it went on for like 23 seasons, right?

SPEAKER_03 53:24

Well, it was kind of funny because I guess uh one part would be on Magnum, the other part would be on merge to wrote, and they also did the same thing with Simon and Simon. Simon and Simon, yeah. Which I that's a per I've that's a pretty good show.

SPEAKER_02 53:40

Yes, I can't wait to get back on solid ground like California. Yeah.

unknown 53:46

Look, uh, we're sorry if we put you through any hassle. Um I mean, hey, look at it from our point of view.

SPEAKER_03 53:52

I mean, everything we did made perfect sense at the time. We love 11 and 7. Okay, yeah. You gotta see if there's some Christmas episodes.

SPEAKER_06 53:59

Yeah, that's one that I haven't I never really watched growing up at all. Yeah, my parents didn't watch it, so I didn't watch it.

SPEAKER_03 54:05

Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_06 54:06

But yeah, I'd be interested in seeing that. I'd I'd be interested really just in seeing the the crossover episodes, honestly.

SPEAKER_03 54:12

I've seen I've seen both of them. Oh, yeah, and how I there well, I've only I didn't realize until I was researching this podcast that the second episode was on the other guy's uh show, so I've actually only seen the first oh I see.

SPEAKER_06 54:30

Gotcha. So well, I know they wanted to do a Magnum PI movie, and even and Tom Clancy and Tom Sellick had even worked together on it, which I'd still like to see it. I know he's older now, I still think he'd kill it. I it would be I think it'd be great, honestly. It's just one of those that I I wish why not? Let's let's do it. I mean, I especially at this point when like the 80s nostalgia is huge. I mean, Cobra Kai, you've got Stranger Things, which hits on it, the Goldbergs, which hits on it. Yeah, they're they're bringing back Gremlins, yeah, Ghostbusters, Ghostbusters is coming. I mean, like all this 80s nostalgia might as well capitalize it and yeah, yeah, Top Gun too. I mean, all that stuff. So it's like like I I'd I'd I'd pay money to see it for real. Yeah, I would too, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 55:18

Even if it was like a you know, like a TV movie or yeah, even that, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 55:24

Yeah, well, I mean, especially when you think about some of the TV, uh, you know, even if it was done by like Netflix or Hulu, you know, or something like that. I mean, they're that stuff looks great for you know for their budgets. I mean, they they really know how to do production values, how to step it up. And I think even as just in general, TV shows have come a long way production-wise. So I I mean, I think with the technology available and and uh I mean it would be really cool. And you know what? Tom Selig looks exactly the same. I mean, he's still he still looks great for for his age, yep.

SPEAKER_03 56:02

77 or 76, he's something like that, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 56:06

Yeah, he's he's getting up there, unfortunately. But uh yeah, he's not going anywhere.

SPEAKER_02 56:14

He's had a you know solid career. We touched on some of his stuff, but blue bloods, he's still relevant. He had that stint on friends through the 90s, too. No, he writes, that's right.

SPEAKER_06 56:26

Yep, yeah, Monica's love.

SPEAKER_03 56:28

Yep.

SPEAKER_06 56:30

Oh man, yeah, this was a good one, and uh I I liked it, I really did. Yeah, yeah, they both are good.

SPEAKER_02 56:39

I don't know. I don't know if it's just because good TV shows hold up over time, or if I'm just becoming old and I think stuff when I was a kid was better than anything, but you know within the past few months, you know, Jerry's on with you, and we did the new heart, which we talked about. Yeah, loved it, and then you came on and we talked about the Van Dyke. So yeah, yeah, it was great. And it's like, yeah, maybe I should, you know, all these are on the Roku channel, and I'm sure you find them other places. But it's like maybe I need to sit down and watch all these, these are really good.

SPEAKER_03 57:12

Yeah, so I totally agree.

SPEAKER_02 57:16

We started because new TV holds or a good TV holds up no matter how old it is, like movies, or if it's just the old man and me.

SPEAKER_06 57:25

Yeah, yeah, little column A, little column B.

SPEAKER_02 57:28

Yeah, yeah, I agree.

SPEAKER_06 57:30

But I think no, I think you you're you hit a you hit the nail on the head, just you know, good episodes with good writing and great acting, it just holds up, you know. And that's why that Dick Van Dyke episode we did, episode we did really worked because it was clever writing. It was like literally, you know, hey, we want to do a variety show. How do we do that? Well, let's say, you know, we're we're gonna do it like this, and they showcased it in a way where they kind of highlighted everybody's strengths and weaknesses or strengths. I mean, you know, and so it's the same thing with this. Um, I are they the best episodes ever? No, but at the same time, they really knew how to build on the characters, especially once you know, that season four one, especially once they really had their characters down, they worked, they paired the relationships, you know, the the the pairings were those that had the most like conflict, but at the same time had the most to to grow and and gain from each other. And I think there is something to be said about just in general, TV that's that's written well will will always hold up. And so I yeah, I agree for sure.

SPEAKER_02 58:35

It's it's it's been amazing.

SPEAKER_06 58:36

I I can't wait to do more episodes like this with with you guys and and for for Christmas cladding and stuff, where you kind of dive into some of this stuff that's kind of like I said, I don't want to say forgotten, but it's pushed off to the side because yeah, I was talking with my my dad the other day, and we were talking about how or he was saying how it's sad how like a lot of today's kids don't really know like songs from like the 50s or 60s anymore. And I was thinking about it, I thought, yeah, that's true, because whenever we would go on trips and we put on the oldies station, it was like 50s and 60s, you know. And you know, and then of course it was the 80s end, so it's like there was 80s music everywhere, but it's like that's what we heard as as oldies, and now it's of course making us all feel old. Now the the 80s and you know, 70s, 80s, 90s is what's considered you know the the the oldies or classic stations. It's like oh man.

SPEAKER_02 59:29

Just the other day, my oldest girl starts singing you are so beautiful to me. Nice. Where'd you? I was like, what are you singing? She goes, Oh, the song off TikTok.

SPEAKER_05 59:40

Oh no, no, it's not off tick tock. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 59:47

Yeah, like oh, I failed. There's so many times where my my kids like talking about duck tails, and you know, they like the new one better than the old one. I was just saying, I failed parents.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:01

I've got my sixth grader watching uh The Wonder Years now. Nice, so I was like, Okay, hey, this is working. And then my oldest twin just bought Ricky Nelson's greatest hits on vinyl. Oh wow, so awesome. Like, all right, I I think I'm doing okay on the parent thing here.

SPEAKER_06 1:00:18

Yeah, right on. Yeah, we started binge watching um who's the boss on Roku, but they only had the first two seasons, so it's we got to the end of season two. We're like, what's going on? Where is it? And so now we're gonna have to go seek them out because I gotta know what happens.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:34

Who is the boss?

SPEAKER_06 1:00:35

It's definitely Angela. Angela's the boss, I think. Yeah, I don't know. But uh, you know, it it does make me you know wonder what would you guys say is your hap, hap happiest moment or memory of Magnum PI.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:50

Well, probably mine is is kind of what I touched on, just you know, the fact of seeing my mom's fandom in it. And you know, that's the thing I remember. I could I don't that shirt I'm sure is long gone. Yeah, yeah. I still have you know a vivid picture. I think there's a picture of her in it somewhere.

SPEAKER_06 1:01:08

I need to dig through the old nice, yeah and dig it up.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:12

And if I if I can find it fast enough, I'll I'll I'll send you a copy, Jerry C.

SPEAKER_06 1:01:17

Yeah, that'd be awesome.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:20

Yeah, just just that fact of you know seeing my mom's fandom, and and I guess at some point that probably encouraged me to be fans of things and you know, and and and have that kind of stuff on a shirt and yeah stuff like that. So cool.

SPEAKER_06 1:01:36

What about you, Michael?

SPEAKER_03 1:01:38

Actually, I think it this uh moment sums up, I think, the entire series, and actually it's in the opening credits when Magnum looks at the camera and he kind of nods or yeah, yeah, yeah. And that just sums up. I mean, I've seen that episode, but it just that sums up that entire Magnum PI, yeah. That's what it is.

SPEAKER_06 1:02:03

Yeah, nice. Yeah, for me, it's uh it's the car. I I remember getting in that car and it was awesome. And I don't really know, I never really been a huge car guy, you know. It was like for me, the Batmobile was like the best car ever, yeah. But yeah, every time you know, it's like something about the cool car, like the Dukes of Hazard, you know, the the general E there, kit, and and and his, you know, just the red T bird. It was just it was awesome, and every time it's just like God, that looks so fun. I want to drive around in there, you know.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:35

Of course, he's so tall he looks up over the yeah, that's true, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:02:40

Yeah, I definitely wouldn't have that problem, but me either. But that definitely brings me to my favorite part of the show, which is a little segment I like to call Gag Me with the Spoon. So this is where we do our best impression of our least favorite episode. And I think in this case, Winner just gets bragging rights. Um, as a guest, I'll let you guys just go first and just kind of set up the scene for us and and then do your best impression.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:09

Michael, you want to go?

SPEAKER_03 1:03:10

Okay, I heard this and I thought I've this is the what I've got to do. It's from the second the operation silent night, and it's it's just a couple of words, and Higgins is kind of in the forest foraging, and the guys are searching for him. All of a sudden you hear, oh my god, and that was it. I don't even know if you remember that part of the episode. I heard that and I thought that line that's the line.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:40

Oh man. Well, for me, I'll I'll try to uh add some context, but it just this part struck me as funny. And the first episode we discussed with the the art heist, Magnum has to take the original painting and hide it in a crack of a wall at the top of this like stadium, and he's got the those big concrete steps, you know, they're kind of oddly placed, so they're hard to get up and down. Of course, Tom Selleck being lean and athletic scampers up on no problem, yeah, back down on no problem. Well, the the kidnapper guy who could be Santa Claus because of his he did have a big beard, yeah. And his body type gets up those steps, but it was painful to watch him come down the steps. So my gang me with the spoon moment would be that guy coming down the steps and that's good, that's good.

SPEAKER_06 1:04:41

I can't follow that.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:45

I was like, that's me coming down them steps. I actually wrote a note uh about that because that look looked so painful. Poor guy.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:56

And if you listen, I think there's background, but you listen, it's like oh man, poor guy.

SPEAKER_06 1:05:07

Yeah, I actually had two. I had one from each, but I think I'm only gonna go with the first with the second one here. So this is from Operation Silent Knight, also, and this is when uh Higgins and T C are talking, and Higgins has just been telling a story uh and TC goes, What you talking about, Higgins? Yes, yeah, Gary Coleman reference. Yeah, I had to pause it. I said, Wait, did he just say what I thought he said and I rewound it? And yes, he did. Yep. If you're wondering if TC quotes Gary Coleman, he does. He does. Oh man, yeah, that that would surprise me, but I thought, oh wow, they okay, they they went for it.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:51

Yeah, that's bad.

SPEAKER_06 1:05:53

But he put all of it into it. He did it.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:55

Yeah, they did. Yeah, he did.

SPEAKER_06 1:05:57

He didn't hold anything. No, I I was gonna do uh the first. One and then I changed my mind because you kind of already did it earlier. But I was gonna do when you know Magnum is trying to convince him that it's Christmas time and he shouldn't let the girls, you know, from the first episode, he shouldn't let the girls be punished, and and he says, Bah humbo. Yes. But you know, it does make me wonder. You know, G.I. Joe taught us that knowing is half the battle. What do you think the other half is?

SPEAKER_02 1:06:22

Knowing when and when not to have your shirt completely unbuttoned. When to have it properly halfway buttoned and when to have it fully buttoned. That's okay.

SPEAKER_06 1:06:34

Yeah, that's all three have been apparently at the airport looking for Lays, it's it's it's completely unbuttoned. That's well, that makes sense.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:44

Well, uh yeah, if you're looking for Lays, shirt completely unbuttoned.

SPEAKER_06 1:06:48

Unbuttoned, yep.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:48

If you're lounging on a ledge of a flower bed with a big camera looking for somebody halfway button, yep. Hold on the cardboard tube waiting to make the Susharu completely buttoned.

SPEAKER_06 1:07:00

Completely, yeah, it's gotta be buttoned up. That's yep, those are the rules. Yep.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:05

It's kind of like the the rule in Golden Girls where only three sit at the table at one time.

SPEAKER_06 1:07:09

The other one, yeah, that's exactly right. You know, Magnum PI's guide to shirt etiquette. Yes. Oh man, what about you, Michael?

SPEAKER_03 1:07:20

What do you think the other half of the battle is? The other half of the battle is calling around instead of Island Hopper for my tours, calling around. Yeah, getting someone else.

SPEAKER_06 1:07:33

That's true. Otherwise, you'll end up getting stuck on an island.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:36

It's gonna be shot, it's gonna, you know, we're gonna have to land on a gunnery range.

SPEAKER_06 1:07:40

So I I went I went the other way. I went to the through the first episode in reference to it. So I if knowing is half to battle, the other half is letting your friend get beat up instead of you.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:52

I think that's a magnum trait.

SPEAKER_06 1:07:55

Oh man, guys, it's been it's been a blast talking with you. Oh, yeah, very much. What do you want to plug? Go ahead, Todd.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:02

Oh, well, Christmas Clatter Podcast. Find it anywhere you get your podcast, Christmas ChristmasClatter.com. The beginning of the year, I've been out of the loop a little bit, getting some things taken care of. Work's been a little crazy, like I said before, but uh here in a week or so we will be back, full guns blazing, so to speak. Yay! We got Mary Melee three on the way shortly.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:28

Cool, cool, right on, Michael. I'm just gonna plug my blog uh The Wonderful World of Nothing.

SPEAKER_06 1:08:35

Right on, and uh podcast soon to come on episodes of the Muppet Show. I hope. I hope definitely looking forward to that one. Oh man, guys, thanks again for joining me on this one and say hi to the Saturday morning mafia for me. Definitely podcast soon to come, maybe. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:59

I would like that very much.

SPEAKER_06 1:09:01

Me too. Me three. Well, on that note, I'll end it by saying, Merry Christmas, Higgins. Check us out on our social media pages, Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram. And if you're feeling like Magnum, dress like Santa, leave us a review on iTunes. Not only does it help us reach more people, but you also get a free sticker. And don't forget to vote. Later, dudes.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:27

Morning, sister.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:30

Good morning, sir.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:50

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