In Episode 117, Patrick chats to Dr Jonathan Savage about significant changes in the world of Music Education, the relationship of Music Hubs with schools, and new BBC Bitesize resources.
And the MTA’s Head of Growth and Operations, Caroline Robinson introduces the 2025 MTA conference, including the CPD sessions, the mentoring and training, the keynote speakers, and details of tickets.
Presented and produced by Patrick Johns.
https://tinyurl.com/JonathanSavage
https://www.musicteachers.org/events/mta-conference-2025/
#CanDoMusic #GetPlaying #SaveOurSubjects
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In Episode 116, Patrick is joined by Maria Thomas from The Music Workshop Company, to find out about their range of schools workshops, including historical music, and a very interesting workshop using cutlery!
Editor of Gramophone Magazine, Martin Cullingford, tells Patrick all about the Survey ‘Growing Musicians, Shaping Lives’, aiming to find out about music teachers’ day-to-day lives in the profession.
And Mark Aitchison tells Patrick all about the European Day of Music in Schools, which enables teachers to watch videos of music-making from schools all over Europe.
Presented and produced by Patrick Johns.
https://www.music-workshop.co.uk
https://survey.alchemer.com/s3/8151878/Growing-Musicians-2025-survey
https://eas-music.org/eudamus/
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~ 2025 MUSC & DRAMA EXPO SPECIAL ~
In Episode 115, Patrick visits the 2025 Music & Drama Expo, to attend CDP sessions, and chat to exhibitors about new Music Education products.
Ifeanyichukwu Ezinmadu introduces SymphoMe, which uses AI to help give students detailed feedback on their performances in between lessons. (1:08)
Award-winning Jazz pianist, composer and educator Nikki Yeoh shares some of her steps to teaching improvisation, and to help students (and teachers!) overcome the fear! (5:28)
Dr June Fileti, MD of the International School of Musicians, chats about their new approach to performance assessment, allowing students to choose their own repertoire. (16:40)
Rachel Hawker, Director of Education at Rocksteady Music School, chats about her CPD session, ‘The Power of Games to Supercharge Children’s Musicality’. (25:21)
And, Heart FM presenter Simon Beale chats about the Music & Drama Education Awards, which he hosted, and about his love for 80s music. (36:17)
Presented and produced by Patrick Johns.
https://www.gsmd.ac.uk/staff/nikki-yeoh
https://www.internationalschoolofmusicians.org
https://www.rocksteadymusicschool.com
https://www.heart.co.uk/radio/shows-presenters/simon-beale/
http://musicanddramaeducationexpo.co.uk
https://musicdramaedawards.com/MDEA2025/en/page/home-page
#CanDoMusic #GetPlaying #SaveOurSubjects
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In Episode 114, Patrick chats to Music Teacher Dylan McCaig about being a recent ECT, and about Early Music both within the curriculum, and as part of co-curricular activities.
MTA Operations Manager Laura Bendy shares details of her new role at the MTA, as well as an important announcement.
And looking towards the Music and Drama Education Expo, Patrick meets Thomas Gregory, to find out why we all need more chaos in our classrooms!
Presented and produced by Patrick Johns.
www.instagram.com/dylanmccaigmusic
https://www.musicteachers.org/events/mta-conference-2025/
http://thomasgregory.co.uk
http://musicanddramaeducationexpo.co.uk
#CanDoMusic #GetPlaying #SaveOurSubjects
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In Episode 113, Patrick catches up with ‘That Music Improv Teacher’, Mike Wright, to find out about Mike’s on-going work to promote improvisation as a standard part of music teaching (01:01).
Professor Derek Aviss OBE discusses the psychology of performance, including overriding the brain’s natural reaction to the fear and stress of performance, with details of a forthcoming webinar from the Royal Society of Musicians (20:28).
And MTA President Catherine Barker explains the huge amount of work that the MTA does for music educators everywhere, including much behind the scenes (31:33).
Presented and produced by Patrick Johns.
https://mwrightmusic-education.com
https://www.rsmgb.org/whats-on/healthy-teachers
http://www.musicteachers.org
#CanDoMusic #GetPlaying #SaveOurSubjects #thatmusicimprovteacher
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In Episode 112, Patrick meets singer, teacher, and vocal health expert, Dr Jenevora Williams, to discuss ways to recognise, manage, and prevent any issues with students’ – or teachers’ – vocal health (0:34).
Plus, conductor Nic Chalmers introduces ways of engaging young people with opera, including some of his work with the Royal Opera House, and chats about his marathon Christmas Carolling at the Royal Albert Hall with the National Youth Choir (12:11).
Presented and produced by Patrick Johns.
https://www.nicholaschalmers.com
https://jenevorawilliams.com
https://linktr.ee/jenevorawilliams
https://www.musicanddramaeducationexpo.co.uk/speakers/jenevora-williams
#CanDoMusic #GetPlaying #SaveOurSubjects
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In Episode 111, Patrick chats to Alex Aitken about GCSE and A Level composition and set works, including ways to teach them, their place within a course, and the barriers faced by teachers and students (00:53).
Editor of Music Teacher magazine, Phil Croydon introduces the forthcoming Music & Drama Education Expo and Awards, to be held in January 2025 (17:19).
And singer, song-writer and New England fiddler Lissa Schneckenburger discusses the importance of aural awareness, ways to teach it, and her online course ‘Learning By Ear’ (29:06).
Presented and produced by Patrick Johns.
https://alexaitken.co.uk
https://masteringalevelmusic.co.uk
https://www.musicanddramaeducationexpo.co.uk
https://musicdramaedawards.com
https://lissafiddle.com
#CanDoMusic #GetPlaying #SaveOurSubjects
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In Episode 110, Patrick chats to Aileen Douthwaite from the Music Publishers’ Association, about the Every Copy Counts campaign, highlighting the legality of photocopying music in copyright, and logging it to help publishers, authors and composers (00:45).
Alex Parsons and Liz Dunbar offer some Composition Hacks for students struggling to get going with a new piece, in extracts from their recent MTA webinar (11:35).
And choral conductor and singer Edward Caswell chats to Patrick about rounds and canons, and SingCircle, a new book containing 111 of these perfect miniatures, which he has co-authored. He explains the book’s origins, how to teach rounds and canons effectively, and just why they are perfect for students of all ages and experience (19:59).
Presented and produced by Patrick Johns.
https://everycopycounts.co.uk
https://mpaonline.org.uk
https://www.musicteachers.org/online-events/
oxford.ly/3AAnnvt
#CanDoMusic #GetPlaying #SaveOurSubjects
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In Episode 109, Patrick chats to BBC Radio 3 presenter Linton Stephens about the BBC’s new Ten Pieces, each of which has been written by a female composer (0:55).
Alex Parsons introduces a new series of webinars from the MTA, providing crucial CPD for teachers (09:06).
And Si Tew from Digit Learning explains the range of products they offer, including their joystick-driven instrument, CMPSR, their notation system Arrow Notes, plus Global Sound Culture (13:38).
Presented and produced by Patrick Johns.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/teach/ten-pieces
https://www.musicteachers.org/online-events/
https://digitlearning.co.uk
#CanDoMusic #GetPlaying #SaveOurSubjects
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In Episode 108, Patrick chats to Michelle Robinson from Loughborough University about the special relationship between student and teacher in instrumental and vocal lessons, also looking at ways to develop it (0:54).
And Gary Spruce discusses the complexities of instrumental music teaching, as featured in his new book 'Instrumental Music Teaching: Perspectives and Challenges', the uniqueness of whole class instrumental tuition, and teacher retention (11:20).
Presented and produced by Patrick Johns.
Survey: https://tinyurl.com/MTMRQSurvey
Instrumental Music Teaching: Perspectives and Challenges: https://tinyurl.com/GarySpruce
#CanDoMusic #GetPlaying #SaveOurSubjects
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In episode 107, Patrick meets the Winner of Visiting Music Teacher 2024 (Classic FM Music Teacher of the Year Awards 2024) Helen Minshall, to chat about her work, teaching brass instruments across Lancashire (1:08).
Plus, Dr Anthony Anderson discusses curriculum design, looking at differences in how curricula are perceived by music teachers and SLTs (16:46).
Presented and produced by Patrick Johns.
https://www.bbe.org.uk/brass-foundations
https://www.facebook.com/Minshallmusicltd
https://musicteacherconference.com/curriculummusic2024/en/page/home
https://www.bcu.ac.uk/health-education-and-life-sciences/staff/education-and-teacher-training/anthony-anderson
#CanDoMusic #GetPlaying #SaveOurSubjects
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In Episode 106, Patrick chats to recorder player Ali Walker about Sing Up's new complete scheme of learning for KS1 and KS2 recorder, 'Play Recorder' (0:52).
And Dr George Waddell, from the Royal College of Music, discusses assessment in music, focusing on performance science, preparation for a performance assessment, and external factors that can affect assessors' opinions (18:20).
Presented and produced by Patrick Johns.
https://www.singup.org/music/play-recorder
https://performancescience.ac.uk/team/waddell/
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In Episode 105, Patrick finds out all about the new AI-driven assessment app, Assessify, created by Rob Reich-Storer from Rhythmstix (0:54).
Rachel Topham from Faber Music chats about the new Faber Music Teachers’ Community, designed to help bring instrumental/vocal teachers and the publisher closer together (12:20).
And Maddy Barnes and Peter Tamblyn talk about the great education work done by English Touring Opera (25:27).
Presented and produced by Patrick Johns.
Assessify: http://rhythmstix.co.uk/assessify/
Faber: https://www.facebook.com/share/VrWH5myoZX3PRR6D/
English Touring Opera: https://englishtouringopera.org.uk/our-work/learning-participation
#CanDoMusic #GetPlaying #SaveOurSubjects
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In Episode 104, Patrick chats to Music Education Consultant (and former National Lead for Music for Ofsted), Mark Phillips, about the start of Year 7, including the value (or lack of value) of baseline tests, questionnaires, and tests of aural perception, such as the Bentley Test.
Plus, MTA President Catherine Barker reflects on the 2023–24 academic year, and looks to the future for Music Education.
Presented and produced by Patrick Johns.
Mark Phillips: https://x.com/englishcadence
Music Mark article: https://tinyurl.com/MarkPhillipsArticle
#CanDoMusic #GetPlaying #SaveOurSubjects
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In Episode 103, Patrick chats to Jane Mitchell about the Aurora Orchestra’s latest resource, Discover Beethoven, which uses the Sixth Symphony as a way into orchestral music for young musicians.
Hattie Fisk, co-chair of the Music and Drama Education Awards judging panel, gives an overview of the 2025 Awards, and encourages everyone to get voting.
And Dr Bushra El-Turk and Dr Joel Bell introduce The Alternative Conservatoire, a new course for young musicians, post-18.
Presented and produced by Patrick Johns.
https://auroraclassroom.co.uk
https://musicdramaedawards.com
https://www.fabermusic.com/freebooksforteachers
https://thealternativeconservatoire.org
#CanDoMusic #GetPlaying #SaveOurSubjects
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In Episode 102, Patrick chats to Professor Martin Fautley about music education over the last 40+ years.
What was it like in the late 1970s?
What have been the most significant changes?
Which trends might make a comeback?
What are the challenges linking Key Stages?
And what are the biggest challenges in music education in 2024?
Martin concludes with a series of powerful messages to all those involved in music education: head teachers, heads of department, teachers, parents, students, and more.
Presented and produced by Patrick Johns.
https://drfautley.wordpress.com
#CanDoMusic #GetPlaying #SaveOurSubjects
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In Episode 101, Patrick finds out all about Liz Dunbar’s incredible new online subscription resource, Music Department Resources, packed with complete schemes of work, cover lessons, and much, much more (01:13).
Nate Holder introduces the 2024 Why Music Festival, to be held on 25th and 27th June 2024 (19:43).
And jazz pianist, teacher and university lecturer Sam Leak discusses perfect pitch, absolute pitch and melody triggers: whether these can be taught or are just natural gifts, and different approaches to teaching aural awareness to students (23:01).
Presented and produced by Patrick Johns.
http://musicdepartmentresources.com
https://www.nateholdermusic.com
Why Music Festival: https://t.co/s4Yn0hO0NJ
https://www.samleak.com
#CanDoMusic #GetPlaying #SaveOurSubjects
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MTA 2024 CONFERENCE SPECIAL
In Episode 100, Patrick reports from the 2024 MTA Conference, held in Queen Anne’s School, Caversham.
Composer Errollyn Wallen OBE discusses her approach to composition, in a Fireside chat with Patrick, recorded live at the conference (33:53), and former MTA President Simon Toyne reflects on what has changed in Music Education since his first interview in Episode 1, in 2020 (11:38).
Plus, from the Trade Fair, Patrick meets Music Leaders UK (01:06), The London College of Music Examinations (21:37), and The Ear Academy (25:35), and speaks to teachers Sully Ososanya (06:50) and Joanna King (31:23) about their first MTA conference.
Presented and produced by Patrick Johns.
https://www.musicleadersuk.com
https://lcme.uwl.ac.uk
https://www.ear-academy.com
https://www.errollynwallen.com
#CanDoMusic #GetPlaying #SaveOurSubjects
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In Episode 99, Patrick chats to Mark Llewelyn Evans, from the ABC of Opera, about their work bringing Opera into Primary education, with books and workshops (0:56);
Pauline Black gives a preview of her and Simon Purcell’s MTA Conference session, The Jazz Mindset, looking bringing Groove into the classroom (14:21);
And Nate Holder discusses his new book, If I Were a Racist, expanding on his 2020 poem of the same name, and challenging what music we teach, why we teach it, and how we teach it (21:03).
Presented and produced by Patrick Johns.
http://academyofbarmycomposers.com/
https://twitter.com/akapaulineblack
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In Episode 98, Patrick chats to the Chair of the Women and Equalities Committee, Caroline Nokes MP, about their recent report, Misogyny in Music, looking at ways that misogyny can appear amongst school-age musicians, and its wider implications.
Oli Rose, Director of Global Development for the Lang Lang Foundation, introduces their Keys of Inspiration scheme, providing whole suites of free pianos and resources to disadvantaged schools.
And composer Dr James Olsen, from the Society for Music Analysis, discusses music analysis, notation, what 'musical literacy' means, and introduces the Society's forthcoming summit in July.
Presented and produced by Patrick Johns.
- Misogyny in Music Report: https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm5804/cmselect/cmwomeq/129/report.html
- Lang Lang Foundation: https://www.langlangfoundation.org/programs/keys-of-inspiration/
- Society for Music Analysis: https://www.sma.ac.uk
- MTA Conference: https://www.musicteachers.org/conference/
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In Episode 97, Patrick meets Mike Simpson from Inspire Works, to talk about their Drumbeatable programme, using group drumming to help young people overcome mental health challenges, and how the power of group music has been scientifically proven to help.
Trumpeter Kay Charlton chats about improvisation in lessons, whole class instrumental tuition, and her excellent new resource, Dinosaur Stomp, published by Warwick Music.
And trombonist and teacher Nathaniel Dye chats about his recent award, about remaining in the classroom despite significant health challenges, running the London Marathon whilst playing the trombone, how to keep students in ensembles, and the crucial transition from Year 6 to Year 7.
Presented and produced by Patrick Johns.
https://www.inspire-works.co.uk/school-health
http://kaycharlton.co.uk
https://bowelcancerbucketlist.com
#CanDoMusic #GetPlaying #SaveOurSubjects
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In Episode 96, Patrick chats to composer David A Stowell about recent his Music & Drama Expo talk, ‘Music Composition: Tips and Tricks for those Extra Marks’, discussing the process of composition in schools.
Abi Marrison (Music Mark) and Colin Stuart (ISM) talk about Can Do Music, a joint campaign with the ISM, Music Mark and the MTA, with its huge numbers of resources.
And David Mason from Viscount Organs introduces the business, and chats about the recent development of technology in organs, and the ranges available for schools.
Presented and produced by Patrick Johns.
https://www.dastowellmusic.com/
https://candomusic.org
https://viscountorgans.net/
#CanDoMusic #GetPlaying #SaveOurSubjects
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**2024 MUSIC & DRAMA EXPO SPECIAL**
Patrick reports from the 2024 Music & Drama Expo, chatting to exhibitors Take It Away, and Darbar Academy.
Plus, interviews with two of the Expo's presenters:
- Deirdre Waller-Box from Brass Bands England, talking about her seminar 'Performance ready in one session'
- Tim Bennett-Hart, CEO of RSL Awards, discussing 'AI: the challenges and opportunities in assessment'
And Patrick at the Music & Drama Awards, Patrick finds out about the work of Lifetime Achievement Award winner Sally Daunt; and goes backstage to meet the Awards' presenter, actor and author Cerrie Burnell.
Presented and produced by Patrick Johns.
Expo: https://www.musicanddramaeducationexpo.co.uk
Take It Away: https://takeitaway.org.uk
Brass Bands England: https://www.bbe.org.uk
Darbar Academy: https://www.darbar.org/academy
RSL: https://www.rslawards.com
Awards Winners: http://tinyurl.com/MDEd2024
Sally Daunt: https://twitter.com/sallydaunt
Cerrie Burnell: https://cerrieburnell.co.uk
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In Episode 94, Patrick meets Liz Stafford, to chat about some of the big issues in Music Education today, and the forthcoming Music Education Solutions Conference.
Gill Davies announces the MTA’s own Annual Conference to be held in May, including details of the trade fair, CPD, Key Note speakers, and how to get tickets.
And Lesley Tyler previews her Music and Drama Education Expo seminar “A thematic enquiry curriculum for KS3”, discussing innovative ways to link all Key Stage 3 subjects in schools with a common theme.
Presented and produced by Patrick Johns.
https://musiceducationsolutions.co.uk
https://www.musicteachers.org/conference
https://www.musicanddramaeducationexpo.co.uk
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In Episode 93, Patrick meets Sarah McWatt from Amp (formerly NYMAZ), and Vic Holmes from Note Weavers, to discuss the work they do for primary music in the North of England, and find out about their forthcoming Early Years Music Conference, focussing on inclusivity.
And Vanessa Wilson-Best explores “exclusivity at GCSE”, focussing on technology as the great leveller.
Presented and produced by Patrick Johns.
tinyurl.com/AmpNoteWeavers
https://www.nymaz.org.uk
https://www.noteweavers.org
https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/nymaz-and-note-weavers-early-years-conference-tickets-753894056417?aff=oddtdtcreator
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Teaching Notes - MTA Podcast - Ep.117 - Dr Jonathan Savage, Caroline Robinson
31:37
Teaching Notes - MTA Podcast - Ep.116 - Maria Thomas (Music Workshop Company), Martin Cullingford (Gramophone Magazine), Mark Aitchison (European Day of Music in Schools)
29:48
Teaching Notes - MTA Podcast - Ep.115 - Expo Special - SymphoMe, Nikki Yeoh, Dr June Fileti, Rachel Hawker, Simon Beale
41:17
Teaching Notes - MTA Podcast - Ep.114 - Dylan McCaig, Laura Bendy, Thomas Gregory
25:26
Teaching Notes - MTA Podcast - Ep.113 - Mike Wright, Prof Derek Aviss, Catherine Barker
44:56
Teaching Notes - MTA Podcast - Ep.112 - Jenevora Williams, Nic Chalmers
31:16
Teaching Notes - MTA Podcast - Ep.111 - Alex Aitken, Phil Croydon, Lissa Schneckenburger
41:18
Teaching Notes - MTA Podcast - Ep.110 - Aileen Douthwaite, Alex Parsons & Liz Dunbar, Edward Caswell
39:39
Teaching Notes - MTA Podcast - Ep.109 - Linton Stephens, Alex Parsons, Si Tew (Digit Learning)
29:22
Teaching Notes - MTA Podcast - Ep.108 - Michelle Robinson, Gary Spruce
35:10
Teaching Notes - MTA Podcast - Ep.107 - Helen Minshall, Dr Anthony Anderson
34:59
Teaching Notes - MTA Podcast - Ep.106 - Ali Walker (Play Recorder), Dr George Waddell
45:52
Teaching Notes - MTA Podcast - Ep.105 - Rob Reich-Storer (Assessify), Rachel Topham (Faber Music), Maddy Barnes & Peter Tamblyn (English Touring Opera)
45:28
Teaching Notes - MTA Podcast - Ep.104 - Mark Phillips, Catherine Barker
25:00
Teaching Notes - MTA Podcast - Ep.103 - Jane Mitchell (Aurora Orchestra), Hattie Fisk (Music & Drama Ed Awards), Dr Bushra El-Turk & Dr Joel Bell (The Alternative Conservatoire)
36:47
Teaching Notes - MTA Podcast - Ep.102 - Prof. Martin Fautley
46:47
Teaching Notes - MTA Podcast - Ep.101 - Liz Dunbar, Nate Holder, Sam Leak
49:47
Teaching Notes - MTA Podcast - Ep.100 - MTA Conference 2024: Errollyn Wallen, Simon Toyne, and more
48:46
Teaching Notes - MTA Podcast - Ep.99 - Mark Llewelyn Evans (ABC of Opera), Pauline Black, Nate Holder
42:09
Teaching Notes - MTA podcast - Ep.98 - Caroline Nokes MP, Oli Rose (Lang Lang Foundation), Dr James Olsen
37:58
Teaching Notes - MTA podcast - Ep.97 - Mike Simpson, Kay Charlton, Nathaniel Dye
51:35
Teaching Notes - MTA Podcast - Ep.96 - David A Stowell, Can Do Music, David Mason (Viscount Organs)
40:39
Teaching Notes - MTA Podcast - Ep.95 - 2024 Music & Drama Expo Special
36:55
Teaching Notes - MTA Podcast - Ep.94 - Liz Stafford, Gill Davies, Lesley Tyler (Expo Preview)
35:36
Teaching Notes - MTA Podcast - Ep.93 - Sarah McWatt (Amp), Vic Holmes (Note Weavers), Vanessa Wilson-Best
32:34