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Sing a New Song
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Music carries a power that transcends mere entertainment—it shapes our spirits, influences our emotions, and can either draw us closer to God or lead us astray. In this soul-stirring conversation, Purpose Williams welcomes longtime friend and gospel artist Demorris Kid Sr. to explore the profound connection between faith and musical expression.
Together, they dive into scripture's perspective on singing, examining how the combination of powerful words and melody creates something uniquely potent in both spiritual warfare and worship. Drawing from Psalms 71:23 and 96:1, they unpack what it means to "sing unto the Lord a new song" and how our musical choices reflect our spiritual condition.
The discussion takes fascinating turns as they share personal stories about growing up in church where music was central to their faith formation. Despite sometimes resenting the long hours of choir practice and services as children, both now recognize how those experiences provided a foundation that kept them anchored even during periods of straying from formal worship.
Demorris offers raw honesty about his journey as a musician, acknowledging that he hasn't always created music that edifies God. His evolution as an artist mirrors his spiritual growth, leading to a deeper understanding of his responsibility to produce content that glorifies Christ rather than simply entertaining audiences. When he describes his current approach as "letting Him come out," listeners get a glimpse of what authentic, Spirit-led creativity looks like.
Perhaps most compelling is their practical advice about being discerning with musical choices—not just for ourselves but for our children. As Purpose powerfully states, "You don't feed them rotten food, do you?" The episode culminates in a live musical performance by Demorris, demonstrating his unique sound and heartfelt lyrics centered on surrender to God's will.
Whether you're a musician, a worship leader, or simply someone who loves music, this conversation will challenge you to consider how your musical consumption and creation aligns with your faith. Subscribe, share, and join us in exploring how we can use the gift of music to glorify God and minister to others.
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Understanding the Power of Music
Speaker 2What's up everybody and welcome back to your favorite podcast, something like Sunday School. I am Purpose Williams. My last name is Williams. I don't know why that came out like that.
Speaker 1It's okay.
Speaker 2It's alright, purpose Williams. Y'all I don't know, but y'all know my last name. Y'all know who this is. I blame, I blame the Morris.
Speaker 4Y'all I don't know, but y'all know my last name is Y'all know who this is I blame.
Speaker 2I blame Demore. Y'all know who this is. Y'all blame, I blame him. Y'all know who this is. You hear him already, right.
Speaker 4Come on now.
Speaker 2Today, tonight, whatever time you listen, I have a very special guest Tonight and we're gonna do A couple of new things on this episode. I'm so excited. I'm ready for you guys to experience. I've been calling this man, marcus. How long have we known each other, dad Over?
Speaker 430 years, over 30 years, since we was kids growing up.
Speaker 2I have been calling him Marcus.
Speaker 4From Lovejoy, from Lovejoy, all the time.
Speaker 2This is one of the blackest episodes too, because that is a nickname that has nothing to do With his actual name.
Speaker 4I need to re-ask moms About that. We're going to bring her in. We got to check that.
Speaker 1We're going to bring her in, because Mark is that's a whole name.
Speaker 2Right Is a nickname. And I'm thinking Maybe that's his middle name, all this?
Speaker 4time Nope.
Speaker 2All this time, sir, introduce yourself To the people.
Speaker 4Hello everybody, god bless you all. And my name is Drew Morris Kid yeah, senior, that is Drew Morris Kid, senior, and I've been Doing music for a while. I've been knowing Treece for a while. Hold on, I probably shouldn't Say that, should I Treece? Oh, yeah, it's fine, okay, so y'all know her.
Speaker 3Y'all know who this is Okay.
Speaker 4But yeah, so, but to make it all make sense, I'm blessed to be here and I got something special for y'all and really we just going to get this thing started up and you know, and get it going. But yeah, Demore's Kid, but yeah, Demore's Kid, Y'all can look me up. I'm on Facebook, Instagram, Snapchat, all of those social media platforms.
Speaker 2All of the above, all of the above, we're going to get right into this episode, both of us being music lovers.
Speaker 2Oh yeah, and being Christians at the same time, we understand the power of music. Oh yeah, at the same time, we understand the power of music. Oh yeah, the scripture is clear about music and singing. All of the above First. Our focus scriptures are Psalms the 71st chapter and the 23rd verse, and Psalms the 96th chapter and the first verse. We're going to go back and read those to you guys, but I looked up one definition of sing Marcus is a singer as well. I'm sorry, I'm calling Marcus.
Speaker 3It's okay, it's okay. He's a singer To those who know, they know.
Speaker 4Like if you know, you know, you know, if you know, you know, if you know, you know.
Scripture's View on Singing and Words
Speaker 2But I looked up the definition of sing right. It says to produce musical tones by means of voice. But here's the definition. I love to utter words and musical tones. Uh, as believers also, we understand the power of our words. Come on. So there, there's a strong power. Uh, so much, so right Speaking. As far as word power in the Bible is so very important, we see it first in Genesis. Genesis 1 says in the beginning, god created the heaven and the earth.
Speaker 3Come on and he did and he did.
Speaker 2And we see after that verse, we see him speaking to what he had created to return, and so all he does Is speak. And it happens right.
Speaker 1He tells us To be careful.
Speaker 2Watch our mouths. He said the tongue Is but a little member, because it's a great fire. If you use it wrong Now, fire can be a fire that devours, or it can be a fire that ignites a thing, a good thing, right? What's another scripture as far as speaking? What's the one that says by your words you're justified or by your words You're messing yourself up?
Speaker 4Come on now.
Speaker 2So we see the power of words, even so, in Receiving salvation, yes, part of that process Is it says Confess, confess.
Speaker 4Open your mouth With your mouth, with your mouth Open your mouth and say it and believe in your heart.
Speaker 2So we understand the power of words and speaking Now. We understand the power of words and speaking Now, we're adding the power of music. Come on Right.
Speaker 4Collective.
Speaker 2Let let's go and you know we talk about this all the time, especially in the black community, and this is, you know, black community. Uh, and this is you know. I'm not trying to go here and be on a soapbox about any of this, but a lot of the music we listen to, we can tell that we listen to it by what's going on in our community right yeah and that's not to say that, uh, as believers, we only have to listen to, uh, gospel music or christian music.
Speaker 2There are some secular songs, so let's talk about this. We talk about music, right? Yep, yep, yep. And it being a mood setter, right? So when my kids are in a certain way, when they on 10, and I got to bring them down, I play classical music in my room.
Speaker 4Oh yeah, I tend to play Vivaldi, it's one of my favorites. Tones are really something. It is when you go to speak about stuff like that, like the lightest, easiest tone, could like humble even. You know, not just kids, but adults too, absolutely. I mean tones are really something because they actually go hand in hand with vibrations, absolutely, and frequencies. That's a whole other conversation, a whole other episode, absolutely A whole other episode. But when?
Speaker 2they're on 10, I tend to play classical music. When I see that they need to pick me up, I will bust some Gracie's Corner real quick. Come on now. So when it's time for them to be crunk in an educational way. Gracie's Corner, he's my girl. We see music also as a mood setter For couples, spouses, and we know what kind of mood we are in. So we're not gonna play. Who's gonna play? Hezekiah Walker? Nah, come on man.
Speaker 4No, come on man, not in that setting. Oh yeah, we're not gonna play. We're not gonna be playing. Play Hezekiah Walker Now, come on now. No, come on now, not in that setting, oh yeah.
Speaker 2We're not going to be playing. Power Belongs to God.
Speaker 3But we do love it, but not in that setting.
Speaker 2And power does belong to God. In me, power belongs to God, oh yeah, but certain music Come on, that's good. Now, who is your go-to guy? I always feel like Blakey would have Luther Somewhere in the mix, when. So, for the setting, or for. For the setting, let's say you're taking your wife On a, on a. Let's say you set a picnic For her Got it. Taking her on a nice date.
Speaker 4Well, For For me, with my, or should I say Our, age group, you know there's so many I could actually say, but for one of my go-tos I'm going to tell you Montel Jordan, montel Jordan, montel Jordan, because I'm an oldie, like all the new stuff that's out. I mean, don't get me wrong, some of it is good, but I like the old stuff. It has meaning.
Speaker 2Absolutely, it sends something.
Speaker 4You can listen to it and you can actually almost do what the song tell you to do and you'll be good afterwards okay, another episode yes.
Speaker 2This is another episode as well. Oh yes, I'm going to tell you who my favorite guy is, that's Joe, joe, I love Joe, my playlist, I playlist.
Speaker 4uh, I got joe montiel, I got some, some luther, I got some sweat on there for our settings, of course, but you, you definitely got to have that for your settings inside of those moments.
Speaker 2So so shout out to all of that music, that which brought some of us here now, today, therefore, now there is okay but again, we said all that To say and to understand and reiterate the power of what we have going on With the definition that I thought that stuck out to me the most Was to other words and put a melody To it. So we, as believers, already have the songs. And why can I say that we already have the songs we need? Because we have the word of God Come on All we're doing.
Speaker 2Is putting it to music. Come on, and you know who is Incredible with that, because Now look here, we can go this way too. Some gospel music Isn't really Gospel music. And how can we say that? It does not line up With scripture? He plays on emotions only. Come on Again. A whole nother podcast.
Speaker 4A whole nother podcast. Now, that's the fourth one.
The Impact of What We Listen To
Speaker 3Get ready, it's coming, it's coming, get ready, so we need to be Taking notes right. Oh yeah, oh yeah definitely.
Speaker 2Who was amazing and his amazing steward. That was Donna Lawrence. When I go back and recollect a lot of the songs he did Really all his songs he was literally putting melody to scripture. Come on now, he was putting it to scripture and you can learn scriptures through songs. Come on Right, come on it's like you can learn anything through songs.
Speaker 4Come on.
Speaker 2So with all of that, I tend to now, especially now the older I get, I really pay attention to words in the song, whether they're deemed gospel music or secular music.
Speaker 4We have to listen to what's going on, absolutely so I mean it could be the crunk is of the crunk type of music or the laid back type of music. We still have to listen.
Speaker 2You got to pay attention to the words we put this out of our spirits. Yes.
Speaker 4Because you know words or even just the tone of the music itself. And speaking of the tones and music itself, with no words you know a tone or tones could lift you up by itself or it could actually Make you feel down or Unpleasant or get into A sorrow mode, just on tones, with no music.
Speaker 2With no music we talk about Now. We see you, finna. Make us Do a lot of things. Marcus, you need to chill, okay.
Speaker 3I'm sorry you finna make us talk about A lot of things.
Speaker 2I'm sorry, I'm just saying.
Speaker 3You know and you're into.
Speaker 2Music theory. Right, we have major chords, we have minor chords. And we only scratching the surface, but minor chords, minor chords, tend to Add a bit of mystery or they can Can deepen the sadness. You got diminished chords All this kind of stuff Matters right, come on. And it can be. Even though the chords be unsettling, they still be beautiful.
Speaker 2They still be beautiful and that's how we get Drawn into it. I'ma tell you A lot of music. I had to stop listening to A lot of books I got rid of Cause I was an avid reader, which I still read. But you know, when you're a teenager, you're young, you know no responsibility.
Speaker 1You got all the time In the world to read.
Speaker 3Oh yeah.
Speaker 2So a lot of, a lot of books that I was going through lately. I got rid of a lot of them. I didn't even give it to somebody else to read, because it was that, yeah, insane.
Speaker 3I didn't want to spread the insanity, so same thing with a lot of music.
Speaker 2I went back and, uh, observed the music some of the music I was listening to, uh, and I noticed that it was a particular song. I used to love it because it was so theatrical and it's by Avril Lavigne. What is that song called? I can't remember the name of it, but she was by herself and I loved it. Like I said, it was very theatrical the 808, the music, the chords, her voice I loved everything about it. But I noticed how it made me feel so I had to get it out of my.
Speaker 4Come on now Get it out of my playlist.
Speaker 2Come on now, there's also another song and again it's a beautiful song and sometimes those songs Like we talked about Before we got on Songs have to come out right, correct, if you're an artist or you're a songwriter, if that's the gift that God has given you. You feel like you have to Get that thing out, or he just want to Leave you alone.
Speaker 4Definitely.
Speaker 2Another song that I had to stop, I had to take a break from, is called how Many Years by Yeba, beautiful song. I understand the song, I understand why she wrote it it was in honor To her mom. But that song, when I used to listen to it, had me so down and I just couldn't get out of thinking about all the sad things. And we know that the scripture tells us to think on whatsoever things are lovely. Oh, come on, and the scripture is telling us that.
Speaker 2I mean God knows our things right, yeah, yeah, come on he knows that we can get in certain moods, and the hardest mood To get out of Is one of those downers Is a downer. It's like a sinkhole.
Speaker 4Yep, it's one of those downers man. Yeah, you be trying to find To pick me up or to get me out. But you be right there and it's like and then, and you know, and really Eight times out From that song, but you listen to another one and it has you right there, and then you're like, okay, you done, made a whole Half a day out of it, exactly, especially how, how music is set up, right, all of the Music applications.
Speaker 2You got what? Pandora? Oh yeah, apple Music, all of it. And what it does is, I think, it's algorithm.
Speaker 3Yep you put in a certain song.
Speaker 4It's gonna bring all those kinds of songs and they're going to bring all of it Absolutely, and it's never ending, which that's not by choice, I mean not by chance, brother.
Speaker 2Anyway but that song is absolutely beautiful. The wording, especially me appreciating poetry and appreciating lyricism and appreciating people being able to express themselves in a certain way about certain things. Beautiful song, beautiful song. But that thing had me down and it wouldn't let me go Come on, so I had to stop listening to it.
Speaker 4Yeah.
Speaker 2And that's just me. That's another instance where Certain things may be a sin to me and not a sin to you. Maybe you can handle it. Maybe it doesn't affect you as it would affect me.
Speaker 4I think it kind of get a hold of everybody Every now and then, especially being that if you didn't went through some things and you didn't experience people um leaving and um and apart and away from you and not you know the unexpected stuff. So so I think everybody who who have lost somebody, um especially, could uh definitely relate so I don't think it's just you with that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2So I had to start Paying attention to that. Another Artist and it's not to just be, you know, calling people out and name dropping or whatever but Billie Eilish. Billie Eilish's music has some of the most Beautiful.
Speaker 4Beautifully written Scores, or Billie Ocean.
Speaker 2Billie Eilish.
Speaker 4Billie.
Speaker 3Eilish.
Speaker 2Yeah, billie Eilish has some of the most beautiful chords, the most beautiful, just music alone. But the words no oh no, absolutely not, not for me okay cause it puts me in the same and. I really you know again, that's just my opinion, but I know it's not for me because, okay, because it puts me in the same and I really you know, again, that's just my opinion, but I know it's not for me because any music that I feel like incites suicide. We tend to romanticize a lot of things.
Speaker 4A lot of songs now encourage suicide or make it seem like it's this lovely thing and we buying that devil back down them old deals, no, no, no, no, no. And I be listening to stuff like that sometimes, but not on because I want to, or I can have the radio playing and it just come and I'm like, okay, well, like these people actually release this stuff and people actually start loving it and liking it and I'm like, hold on for a minute, I don't want to die you better know and I honestly, a lot of times I see something, I hear something, I honestly feel like I think to myself you know, how can you release this?
Speaker 4knowing how people, especially to my soak, this stuff up jumping out of a window. Yeah, I ain't gonna jump out.
Speaker 2No window right even movies I'm gonna get out of my car from dying. We can do a lot of things.
Speaker 2But, let's get back On the other side, because we'll keep on going. We will keep going. Let's think about King Saul. Right, what episode was that? We talked about King Saul? I think it was called King With a question mark. King Saul Is. He Was the first king, was the first earthly king, physical king of the children of Israel. They wanted a king that they could look at with their eyes and you know this and that. So essentially, he loses the oil for being a king and he had already seen who his replacement was and it made him crazy.
Speaker 2So, he kept trying to kill the boy. All kind of things kept trying to set him up and and the boy that he was trying to kill, with the man he was trying to kill, was the one that was sent to calm him down. Isn't that crazy and irony. So, uh, to to make his murderous, tortured mind calm down, david was sent in to play the heart for him come on and it was the bible said it was soothing the savage beasts inside of him and and did yeah, so we.
Speaker 2We understand the power once again music now let's go here.
Growing Up in Church Together
Speaker 2Uh, speaking of david, our focal scriptures are coming from, uh, psalms which david is credited a lot for writing, I think like two, like two thirds of song. So here we are, psalms 96 and 1. It says, oh, sing unto the Lord. A new song. Come on, sing unto the Lord who All the earth Sing unto the Lord and bless his name. Right? So I like to Break things down. Of course, spiritually, we always want to be Holy Spirit led as far as the meaning Of scriptures.
Speaker 2But I like to look At the things Poetically and Grammar wise. The beginning of the Scripture says oh, which in. In the English word we would call it An interjection. It's really getting your attention Like hey.
Speaker 4Correct.
Speaker 2Check it out. This song we got to do, it's important. Oh yeah, oh sing, oh sing. That's it.
Speaker 4A new song.
Speaker 2A new song intrigued me also Because as we grow, again, as we grow, we go from faith to faith, glory to glory. The song's going to change the songs that we sing, of course, we'll keep, you know, some of the ones that are spiritually correct. But the songs are going to change the more we understand and the deeper we are in Christ, Even us coming as musicians, as people who enjoy music. The songs are going to change that we listen to. So definitely the songs are going to change that we sing.
Speaker 4Definitely Right. The deeper we are with Christ, the more our relationship matures. Oh, definitely.
Speaker 2It's going to change, and I see this also as the Lord telling us hey, we don't have to focus on some things anymore. So sing a new song. Sing a new song. Sing a new one. Say something different for yourself.
Speaker 1Come on, we see music. A new song. A new song, we see a new song.
Speaker 2Songs can be used for praise and worship, which that's at the very forefront. But songs are also a weapon. Songs are also a weapon.
Speaker 4I agree.
Speaker 2The scripture was telling the women who couldn't have babies To sing, and that was gonna give life To their womb. Come on To sing, so we understand the power. Again. I'm gonna keep on saying that A lot of times in the episode. Come on, we understand the power of singing, sing and singing the right thing, singing to the Lord.
Speaker 4A new song and Hello, hello, sing and singing, the right thing, singing to the Lord.
Speaker 2A new song, hello, hello. Are you listening? Are you listening? Come on now. And the Lord is so kind In the sense that he tells us what to do, and he's telling us Because he's already Giving us what to do. Come on.
Speaker 4Right Instructions. Are you listening? He's already giving it.
Speaker 2He's giving it to us what to do. He's giving it. He's giving it to us what to do. He's so kind. But he also makes us, he tells us to do it In a certain way, because he knows We'll do it that way. So I tell my children, okay, if y'all, if y'all Do this or do that, then we're going to do this. So in their minds, okay, I held up my end of the bargain you got to do, come on now, what you said Hold your corner Before that word die.
Speaker 2So it makes them have a boldness Like, okay, definitely I did my part. Now you obligated to me your what?
Speaker 4Your word Stand on up.
Speaker 2Your word Stand on it.
Speaker 4Stand on it.
Speaker 2So when he's giving us His word right and we put a song to it, he knows, god knows what he's doing, cause he knows that we'll take in our spirit, we'll take in music as far as songs and melodies and tunes, more so sometimes than just just hearing the word, but together to the two of them combined, combined jesus of nazareth of nazareth the two of them combined. I love that.
Speaker 4I'm Nazareth.
Speaker 2Keep on coming Go on Mighty.
Speaker 1Mighty.
Speaker 3I love it.
Speaker 2Man and Marcus and I grew up in church together. Definitely, and we had what would be called communications right.
Speaker 4Oh yeah.
Speaker 2That means we would church over to another church, church at another church together.
Speaker 4Together.
Speaker 2And a big part of that was All the choirs.
Speaker 1Singing a song. Yeah, yeah, we were there, for we were there for hours. Y'all was hard.
Speaker 4We would be there for hours, hours.
Speaker 2And I was. The music was. Literally Hours, literally Hours, hours, hours, and I you know, when you young you don't understand it fully. But you know I wouldn't trade it for the world.
Speaker 4Me either. And I was just telling you know, one of my coworkers the other day. I said, man, regardless of what anybody said about me, you know, all of those extra peers would be like man, but y'all stay in church. But I'm going to tell you, it was the church going to church, coming to church, and the word and the praying Is what saved me. That's what still got me here today. So thank.
Speaker 3God for church. Thank God for the word.
Speaker 2I say this all the time as well, the crew, and I talk about it all the time.
Speaker 4I thank God for that.
Speaker 2Absolutely. When you're young, you just don't get it. We gotta be here all this time. I used to be mad. I used to hate we go Friday night church and I used to hate it. I'm going to tell you why I hated it and I'm just going to tell you how young I was. Because that Friday night or was it Sunday night, it was either Friday night or Sunday night.
Speaker 4It probably was both for us it probably was both Look.
Speaker 2So it was. I think it was the night that all my favorite shows came on like a roll, so it was Full House. It was what's the one with?
Speaker 4all the kids, man, I'll remember this. The Simpsons used to come on. I used to miss everything. I used to be like man just let us watch just 15 minutes yeah.
Speaker 2Family Matters and Boy Meets World. It was that night when all those things came on in a row and we would be at church and I'd be so mad Cause we was gonna miss it.
Speaker 4And it was on to the next episode, so you had to miss that episode. Yeah, to try to catch up with that episode and we didn't have YouTube people.
Speaker 2Yeah, I was just finna say we didn't have YouTube To go. Re-catch back up, right and you can have Netflix to binge and see them all. None of that, people. You hear me. We can see it now, but then back then it was.
Speaker 4Y'all young folks blessed.
Speaker 2Right, it was a different anticipation, when you was seeing one episode and then the next one you got to.
Speaker 4you know it was a built-up anticipation. Definitely.
Speaker 3I used to come standing.
Speaker 2Ooh, I used to be so mad. It was Choir rehearsal.
Speaker 4Choir rehearsal Youth practice Youth practice. And then Friday night, and then you had to go Saturday sometime To prepare for Sunday To prepare for Sunday, and then you got Sunday. And then you got the Witnessing, all of the above.
Speaker 2Oh my, I'm talking about a full schedule Sunday school.
Speaker 4Then you got to still stay To the, to the noonday service. Yes, you have the noond day service. You got the Three o'clock communication and some churches After that.
Speaker 2They went back to church. They went to church All day. No, was some of it overkill? Sure, it really was, but I mean it really was.
Speaker 4If you're gonna overkill.
Speaker 1Something Right, it might still be a good thing.
Speaker 2We thank God For the word I'm telling you Like that's real talk. It kept me from doing a lot of things. It kept me, and even when I did it, it kept me. Come on.
Speaker 4I was still kept and I didn't have a taste For a lot of things Bye, bye Right now.
Speaker 2Growing up, and I know that it was.
Speaker 4It was coming up in church Having prayer and prayers, you know, oh yeah, real, real prayer warriors.
Speaker 3Real live prayer and prayers, and I mean you talking about somebody Get a prayer through or else.
Speaker 4Absolutely. It's back to the altar, you go. Okay, hello, man, they had us up, man, they had us up Over there on the altar. Baby, I'll never forget Plenty of days, plenty of nights. Now we did.
Speaker 2We did a prayer line and Every now and then we would all do the altar, but it wasn't like Going back up there.
Speaker 3It was just.
Speaker 4Passing the side that night. He ain't got it yet. That was you mark. Send him on back up. I just came back from up here and all right, he good sitting on begging and I got that. Look at my eyes, still he ain't got it. Send him back up there. All right, I got it now I got it up in there acting up. I know it really. It really't me acting up. I was just kind of like I'm going to use the word overkill again.
Speaker 4It was a little overkill for me. I was like man. Thank the Lord anyway. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, now I'm telling you like, now you get it.
Speaker 2You know what I'm saying, you understand now. I had a guy who came to me. He and I went to elementary school, elementary school and I didn't see this man After we got out of Elementary school. I didn't see him Until college and we was, we was up there At Bishop State and he came up to me and you know my eyes are blessed, they're very blessed.
Speaker 2Come on now and sometimes it takes me a minute To focus on who that is. Come on. So this guy Walked up to me and my eyes wouldn't focus on his face to save my life until he you know he started talking or whatever and I was like, oh, this, this is my, my dude from elementary school. So he was like man, it's good to see you and it's good to see you still safe. He's like man. I wish I wish I had that when I was growing up, so that that's always a testimony when we would come across a lot of our classmates so you know, still to this day, still to this day, still to this day.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 4Like kid, can you pray for me? Kid, Pray for me. I can pray with you, Over you. That's right.
Speaker 2All of you.
Speaker 4Yes, because I mean, but they still tell me that to this day too, and I'd be like man, I'd be like yeah, I mean, it's just God a keeper, he's a keeper, okay, even when the scriptures are trained up the child in the way you should go.
Speaker 2Come on, we's all you want to depart from it. So even in trying to and I tell people all the time there was a time when I wasn't going to church at all. It was a strange time. My flesh was cool with it, but of course my spirit was come on and my peers were not cool with come on. They were really upset about it, come on. And again, that that's about circle, and I know them because because of Christ, you know, growing up, I think everybody then you know, went through those gaps.
Speaker 4Yeah, yeah, everybody, I think.
Speaker 2I could actually say that with a little confidence.
Speaker 4I think everybody been through those types of gaps but I always tell people.
Speaker 2You know, when I wasn't going to church or whatever, I was not crazy enough to fully let it go. I played on the edge.
Speaker 4I looked at it and I was like, oh enough to fully let it go. I played on the edge. I looked at it.
Speaker 2And I was like, oh, that's very interesting right there, but I'm just not going to do it.
Speaker 4I'm just not going to jump, and I'm talking about close encounters, what they say close calls, but God is a keeper. And.
Speaker 2I'm thankful for that.
Speaker 4I know I'm thankful, yeah.
Speaker 2Growing up in it and understanding it now even more so. It's just, you know, it was a journey and it's just been amazing. It's just been amazing, just an amazing thing. So let's go here. We know you now as an artist. Let me ask you this question. Let's do this what is your go-to song when worshiping or needing godly encouragement?
Speaker 4I'm going to say for the new school, since we, we are in 2025. I can go old real quick and absolutely, that's usually where I'm at.
Speaker 4But yeah, but just so we Don't lose nobody, I'm going to say Travis Green, and that's Made a way, because he's still Showing me his hand Daily. You guys, he's still making a way and he's still Showing me, like, even when we don't think he's going to move, or even when we don't see it happening. Right when you don't see it and right when you don't think it's going to happen, it happens, he, he happens, he happens.
Speaker 4He happens and and he always makes a way, always no, still still through it all. And so my answer is um made a way, uh, travis green travis green.
Speaker 2Yeah, I love travis. Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna tell you who. And this is, you know, depending on the day. One of my favorite go-to's is is fred hammond. Oh come on, the song called show yourself strong. Oh yeah, I was, I actually played man. I played that a while back.
Speaker 4I was trying to catch Is Fred Hammond. Oh, come on the song called Show Yourself Strong. You ever heard that song before? Oh yeah, I actually played man. I played that a while back. I was trying to catch myself. Yeah, yeah, except on the sticks, and I was up in that thing, show Yourself.
Speaker 2Strong Is definitely one of my go to's, so if y'all get a chance you never heard that song before you need to catch Fred Hammond. Fred Hammond, fred Hammond. Show yourself strong, he's still going ain't he, he's still going.
Speaker 4Oh man, he's still going. Shout out to Fred Hammond, yeah.
Speaker 2Fred Hammond for sure. Like their whole album Pages of Life, you come out of no Skip. Look at this guy.
Speaker 4I love it. I'm ready to go into a song. I see you Down around A no.
Speaker 1Skip album, and that's good.
Speaker 2Definitely Pages of Life. Red Hammond and what's another one? I do Open Up my Heart, yolanda.
Speaker 4Adams, that will forever and always be a good one, classic.
Speaker 2And it's a very melodious song, very jazzy, and I think that is to get the people's attention. Once you get in there, you really listen to those words. The lover of my soul, the captain of my seat.
Speaker 4I mean but that's just like the Donnie McClurkin. I mean Do we fall down? Because sometimes we do fall, but we get back up.
Speaker 3That's scripture we get Back.
Speaker 2Up. See, that's what I'm saying, it's scripture. The scripture says A just man falls seven times. Come on, but you keep on getting up. Come on, baby, you can't lay that in.
Speaker 3You can't lay that in. Get up out of there, get out of there.
Speaker 2Get out of there, be not entangled, Be not entangled.
Speaker 4The yoke of bondage again. All right now you finna stir the word up.
Speaker 2That's scripture, though.
Speaker 4That's good scripture.
Speaker 2And it is delicious.
Speaker 4And that is, it's delicious. I'll give you the God for that. I mean that.
Speaker 2The next question right here. Let's see, let's see how we, let's see your transparency on this one. As a musician, right as an artist, have you always done music that edifies God?
Speaker 4Good question. Truthfully, I can say I've always done music and I tend to do music what's inside of me, if it's in my heart for me to go record, it would be something that I could shed light to people. So I would say yes, because if it's in my spirit to do and to let out, that's for, that's for me, to let people hear it and let them see the light from where I'm trying to come from.
Speaker 2So I'm going to say, yeah, you have always said music that edifies God.
Speaker 4Not every single song I have not telling the honest truth. Really. But. But I can say what's inside of you will eventually come out and I just like to do music that that's good, that feels good, and if it's good to me, I'm gonna let it out. Now am I proud of?
Speaker 3all of the songs I can say that that I've ever done.
Speaker 4No, um, because it wasn't in line but you know, now but now yeah, I know better you know, I, I, I tend to to let him speak to me. When I'm writing now and I tend to let him use me for I can be a a real light, so people can actually see and hear, and that's critical.
Speaker 2That's critical. Being a gospel artist. Ain't no other way to do gospel music correct outside of being led by the Holy Spirit correct outside of that you can't mix and tangle both that's for sure because that's like it's one of those things you could record.
Speaker 4you know what you feel, but what message are you really giving out, like, what message are you trying to send to people? Well, you could record, you know whatever you want to record, but what are you putting out for people, the masses to hear?
Speaker 2And that leads us here, like let me ask you this, right, what do you want to accomplish? And I believe you really just already answered this question with the sound that God has given you. Let me ask you this now, let's be clear, because you did just answer that question With this certain sound and this certain newfound understanding of responsibility as a believer.
Speaker 4Come on now. To only I love it To only put out music that edifies Christ Right.
Speaker 2What do you think is unique about your sound and your way of expressing and communicating God to people through the sound that God has given you?
Speaker 4Actually easy answer. Well, I like to, well, okay.
Speaker 2You dropped the mic right there. He's the answer.
Speaker 4There we go. Boom, that's a message, go ahead, you know Well, okay, so to be transparent for real. What comes to me, you know, be transparent for real. Um, what comes to me, you know, and what's been coming to me lately, has been trying to make music. Not only was good for me, because you, you, you have to make music for yourself first. You can make music for others, but it has to be good for you to be able to really let it out so people can gravitate towards it. And especially when doing music for God, for Christ, you want to make sure it's there.
Speaker 4And for me, what makes me stand different into my lane from what I'm doing, is I have this rawness at the moment when I do it. It's just a raw thing, and I'm going to give you all a little piece of it later on in the show of exactly what I'm talking about. But it's this thing when I'm doing it, and he's already flowing through me and it just comes out, you just got to kind of like hear it and just feel it for yourself. But, um, it's just one of those things, it's, it's a raw thing, that that I just do. And like, I know it's from him, you know, so I just let it. I let him come on out. You know he's already inside. I just let him come out. Perfect, while I'm doing it and that's that's.
Speaker 2It's always a beautiful thing to be a vessel for the lord and to be a conduit for him. Uh, and the thing about it like he is giving us all a uniqueness, correct as far as the gifting?
Speaker 2that's giving us now, the giftings are the same. You got a lot of people the same. You got a lot of people that can sing. You got a lot of people that can write Right. A lot of people that can dance, correct People that can, you know, do whatever, but even in all those things being the same giftings, the uniqueness is like a fingerprint to me, it will always be his own, if we're true it feel true.
Speaker 2It feel true To how he gives it to us, because there are A lot of copycats, but we can always tell when somebody is copying, like okay, back in the day I'm going to tell you how old we are. You remember when we were young and we used to have those carbon sheets, like if somebody Was absent, right? I know I had a math class At Clark Clark Middle School. I had this math teacher named Mrs Wink and she was a very, she was an amazing teacher and if somebody was out, like one of the kids was out, right, and she was a class where we took notes. Like this is a math class.
Speaker 2And we took notes like yeah, we took notes like she was lecturing, but she never made it feel like lecturing, but she was very detailed and she wanted our notes to be detailed, so somebody was absent right, we would have to get one. Of us would get the carbon they call carbon something but, anyway.
Speaker 2So you put the paper. There was this piece of paper that you put under your original sheet. So you're doing the writing, you're taking notes, but the the paper would copy what you wrote on another paper. So that way, whatever notes you wrote, whoever was missing that day could get notes from the class. But you could always tell. I said that to say this. As far as copycatting, you could always tell which one was the original, of course, and the other one was a copy correct, it was never as clear.
Speaker 4Yeah, it was the original.
Speaker 2I can't remember the name so myself the uh you know what I'm talking about, don't you? Definitely yeah, definitely so y'all see how old we are in the lord. But but, that's why. That's why it's important to be, you know, the original, you that how god gave it to you definitely definitely you got to be the original, the message is not gonna be as clear. Yeah, it's how he gave it to you. Imagine David Not playing the harp, like Like the Lord gave him to. Would he have sued the savage beast? Oh, no, no, I don't believe so.
Speaker 4And that's kinda Awesome On you know and how you saying it and what you're saying, because when he give you something you gotta do it, you should do it, you better do it. But thing is, when he give you something For you to do, you have to let him Work in you. So it come out Accordingly.
The Assignment from God
Speaker 2So it come out accordingly. And here's another thing too, right, and we gonna let you, we gonna let you Get to the get to the come on if you don't do it right the lord told you to do a thing. You don't do it because his word can't turn. Return to him void. Somebody else gonna do. Somebody else gonna do it every time. Somebody else gonna do it because that was what god wanted out in the earth. Somebody else is gonna do it we even see this in the secular world.
Speaker 2There was a interview I saw a couple of days ago on tiktok about michael jackson, right. So michael jackson said that, um, whenever a song came to his mind, he did it immediately. And you know why he said he did. And this is a secular, secular music, and if we would take it as seriously as Michael Jackson did, michael Jackson said that he did it immediately Because If he didn't do it, god was going to give it to Prince and Prince was going to do it.
Speaker 4Wow.
Speaker 2So I haven't watched it, but I'm going to look for that Now. Look how seriously he takes that.
Speaker 4And this is secular music Right, right, but that Nah, that's pretty, that's heavy, hard and it that's yeah, and we see that in scripture all the time too, where the people who are not believers get it and it grieves holy spirit.
Speaker 2That's not to say that michael jackson wasn't a believer. What I'm saying is, if he's taking it that seriously and this is secular music how much more seriously should we take it? Come on, and this is secular music. How much more seriously should we take it? Come on, and this is a godly assignment come on now. Come on now and this is a godly assignment, and and that it is yeah so I?
Speaker 2I am a person who's not very um, I'm not. I would say that I'm an introvert, right or uh, the spirit of introvert is upon me and I'm not a person who's necessarily, uh, just just out there. You know, I very much love the background, I very much love being behind the scenes, I very much love encouraging people to do, you know, what god has sent for them to do I feel like that is a part of my gifting, but I have to to.
Speaker 2a lot of times I force myself to go ahead and do it, in the sense that I don't want to let my shyness or my introvertism keep me from doing what God told me to do Come on.
Speaker 4now Come on. I don't want that on my head on my shoulders Come on, come on, because we need my shoulders. Come on, come on, because we need our blessings from the Lord.
Speaker 2And we need to do like the scriptures. They'll go you, therefore, to all the earth, and he's going to send us to all the earth in different ways, because when God gives you an assignment, that assignment is not for you, it's for the people that are assigned to you. Come on. And I don't want casualties, we don't need On my watch. Casualties Because I didn't do what I was supposed to do. Yes, lord, definitely that. You mean that.
Speaker 4Jeff, for real, and not the way that I was supposed to do it.
Speaker 2Oh yeah, and it's so funny Because I love to laugh. That's a part of my personality come on at first I used to think that I'd be like Lord, these people gonna be annoyed with all the laughing that I do. But the scripture comes to me all the time laughter does good like a medicine and so for some people, it'll work. Some people it may not work, but I just have to do it for the people that are assigned to me and are assigned to this assignment. So that's good.
Speaker 4now that's good. Yeah, we just you know, that's good.
Speaker 2now we encourage you to do. Hey, do what he told you to do. Right, and we don't want the delays.
Speaker 4And that's what brings us here. Right, that's what brings us here, you know.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 4The assignment delays, and that's what brings us here. Right, that's what brings us here. You know, yeah, the assignment of others, man, I mean I felt like, but this was one of those things, especially with this, this song he gave me, I was like, but this is one of those things that I don't want to just sit on because I you know.
Speaker 4But, like I said, I previously recorded like I don't even know how many songs I think I've ever recorded I'm definitely in the hundreds, now for sure. But now where I am in this place in my life, in this time in my life, where God is leading me, I want to be able to create music and edify him and let him lead and speak, fight him and let him lead and speak. So I definitely, I definitely want to be one of the ones to have my own sound, my own lane to be able to present to the world, to let them know who I am, but still to let them know who God is and he's still able and the blood is still real.
Speaker 2Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. We definitely the whole goal. Okay, right, okay, the whole goal is to present God. Like you said, the Winans had a song a long time ago. Don't see me, see Jesus.
Speaker 4Exactly.
Speaker 2So that's you know, that's who we do it for, but I really enjoyed you on this episode. It brought out a lot of things.
Speaker 4Come on, and this is just the first people, just the first one Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Speaker 2I got a few takeaways. I've never said this on here before, I don't believe, but I got a few takeaways. Pay attention to the music you're listening to.
Speaker 3Come on.
Speaker 2And if you got to pay attention to the music you're listening to, pay attention to the music your children are listening, to Come on.
Speaker 4All right, you don't feed them rotten food, do you?
Speaker 2Can't do that Unless you're a psychopath. Come on now. What is it called when the parents be making their kids sick for attention Munch?
Speaker 4housing by proxy and we buying that back down. Feed them, churn good food Right, oh devil.
Speaker 2Feed them. Good Same thing. Musical ingestion movies what?
Speaker 1are they ingesting?
Speaker 2feed them good I said what do they meet right? Regular food, regular drink and some of these things I dare you to take out of the diet and see the change and do what you gotta do for christ, come on, cause.
Speaker 4What you do for Christ Shall Last. Can I get a witness on that? Hallelujah.
Speaker 2Well, I hope you guys have enjoyed this episode and have enjoyed Demorris. I had to make myself say Demorris, enjoy. I'm just gonna say more.
Speaker 4That's good. If you know, you know, if you know, you know.
Speaker 2I hope you have enjoyed it and we have something Very special. This is the first time here on something like Sunday School and we gonna, we gonna turn it on over. We. Thank you, auntie Nya, and we also got In the building. Pj, pj, pj.
Speaker 4Come on now, he's an amazing editor Get at him, get at him, come on now.
Speaker 1He's an amazing editor. Get at him Come on now Halo City.
Speaker 2All right, d, we're going to let you take over. Hope you guys have enjoyed. Check us out on all the platforms.
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Musical Performance and Closing
Speaker 3I just wanna bless your holy name, father. You that came into my life ain't been a saint Father, my God of good God, I give you hope. A way, make us know that me, he comes through. It ain't nothing my God can't do. Can I testify my renewed mind? I speak the truth, activate your faith. That's what you gotta do when you follow God. It's anointing. We follow him.
Speaker 3If you tryna do the right thing, follow me the right way, I say okay, what can you miss in life? If you wanna change your life, god can just say yes, yes to your will and yes to your way. I say I'll obey, yes to your will and yes to your way. I say I'll obey. He's a magnificent God. He's a forgiving God. I just wanna tell you all He'll pick you up when you fall. You have to make a decision, or you gon' listen and take the position. God gave me a vision. He gave me a mission. I had to repent. I added faith with it, so I know I'm safe with him. Long as I'm praised, then I'm praised and we gon' vacate with it. Lord, protect me from the unseen and the ones that's hatin' on me, cause God's way more and I say he's way more.
Speaker 3If you tryna do the right thing, follow me the right way, I say okay, with the goodness of life, if you wanna change your life, god can just say yes, yes to your will and yes to your way. I say I'll obey, yes to your will and yes to your way. I say I'll obey yes to your will and yes to your way. I say I'll obey yes to your will, yes to your way, yes to God's will, yes to our will and no to our will. Come on, less of us, less of us, and more of you, god, more of you, god, less of us. Say yeah, yes to your will. We thank you, lord, come on. We thank you, god. Yes to your will, hallelujah, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come, love me. All right you.