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Somethin' Like Sunday School
King Dethroned
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Are you holding onto things God has told you to eliminate? In this thought-provoking episode, Purpose Williams and "The Elder" dive deep into the dangers of compromised obedience through the compelling biblical contrast between Kings Saul and David.
What made David "a man after God's own heart" while Saul was rejected as king? Despite David's notorious failures, his heart remained centered on God, while Saul's heart was ultimately centered on himself. When confronted with their sins, David immediately turned to God in genuine repentance, while Saul offered excuses and prioritized saving face.
The conversation introduces the "Six C's of Christian-ish" – Compromised Obedience, Copying Culture, Counterfeit Spirituality, Crafty Excuses, Condoning Sin, and Casual Repentance – warning signs that we're becoming selective about which parts of our faith we'll embrace. As Purpose notes, "Selective obedience is still disobedience," a reality that cost Saul everything.
We explore how positions from God are given as gifts of grace rather than earned achievements. When we fail to steward these positions well, we essentially dethrone ourselves. The speakers share personal stories of learning to surrender harmful appetites – from coffee and soda to destructive relationships – illustrating how often what "tastes good" to us is actually causing damage.
This episode offers a powerful challenge: stop keeping what you should be killing. Whether it's unhealthy attachments, sinful habits, or simply areas where God has called you to surrender, true discipleship requires complete obedience, not just the parts that feel comfortable.
Take a moment today to ask yourself: What am I holding onto that God has asked me to release? Your throne may depend on your answer. Subscribe now and join us next week as we continue exploring what it truly means to follow Christ wholeheartedly.
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Welcome & Introduction
Speaker 1what's up everybody and welcome back to your favorite podcast, something like sunday school. I am purpose williams and today I am beyond excited about this to have the elder back in the room.
Speaker 2Not the elder I thought we talked about this the young elder.
Speaker 1Listen, he's been elevated. Amen. Praise God, this man has been acting up in the name of the Lord in the name of the living God, I'm excited for you to receive through him on today when the keys at.
Speaker 4Look, I got my tambourine Over there.
Speaker 1It's over there guys.
Speaker 2I need a favor he listening, I need him to Back you up, right.
Speaker 1Look, look, what's Don't? Preachers have a favorite key.
Speaker 2Uh huh, then they want to be. Put me in the the key, hey, hey.
Speaker 1Give it to him. I wish he was here. He'd give him a quarter To for real Right. Today, I know the last time you were here With us, we got into the story Of King Saul.
Speaker 2We did.
Speaker 1And what a. We unpacked that, yes, yes, what a, what a, what an encounter that was. Now we're gonna be going A little bit Further.
Speaker 4Come on and bringing it home A that was Now.
Speaker 1We're going to be going a little bit further. Come on, and bringing it home a little bit more also, yeah for sure.
Speaker 2This account is just crazy. It is very crazy. I had someone tell me because I've had a few speaking opportunities as of late and it's never an intentional thing, but I've always, for the last couple of messages, I've been parking. It's like since that conversation I haven't been able to move. My God and it dawned on me because after we just got done with this last service we just did for our young adults, which we'll talk about, because a lot of this conversation, ironically, uncoincidentally, if that's a word- Uncoincidentally, not by chance, yeah.
Speaker 2We just got done talking about this with the young adults at the church. But, yeah, after the event, one of the guys came up to me. He was like man, you know, you just spoke this for this, you just spoke for that, you spoke for this too. And like you were pulling, Like you parked in David's story, and I was like, oh, I really have, I haven't even read it because again it's not intentional.
Speaker 2I just think that there's so much in there. You can spend a lifetime there and still be pulling all types of stuff.
Speaker 1Look, tea is the truth of the word of God. You can spend a lifetime in Genesis 1 and 1. Easy, easy Easy. That's the deliciousness, though, and that's how you know, the word is living. I'm just about to say, uh, it's living, it's living, it's not. It's like I'll be telling my students, um, they'll be asking so many questions, or whatever, when we read the directions I said, baby, do you think that the words are on the paper for decorations?
Speaker 3right so the scripture.
The Account of King Saul
Speaker 1The scripture is not on the page for decorations. Yeah, man, it's just absolutely delicious, but we're gonna get right into it. We're coming out of, we back in. Uh, first samuel yeah first samuel 15, uh, when uh saw uh sweet saw, saw my man, saul help him so many. You know what this, this, it reminds me. You know so many, so many people in the Bible. I mean the children of Israel, the young prophet, who God gave the instructions to, and he did the opposite thing listening to another voice who he felt like followed God.
Speaker 3Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1But you know, none of these things trump what God says directly to you what he says directly to you the instructions.
Speaker 2Follow the instructions. Follow them. Follow them you will.
Speaker 1I mean, there's so much peace in following what.
Speaker 2God says so much.
Speaker 1So much peace in it following what god says. So much, so much peace in it. So much you know it's just the worry component is not there and you know you may even have situations that arise or whatever, but the the scripture is still clear right there, remaining the rest to the people of God. The rest is still there. Let's go to King Saul and what he had going on and what caused him to be rejected. You want to read?
Speaker 2Yeah, I'm reading on the NLT, nlt, is that all right?
Speaker 1You'd be proud of me because I read NLT last night.
Speaker 2Come on.
Speaker 1And I never read the NLT ever.
Speaker 2NLT is for me.
Speaker 4KJV is mine.
Speaker 2KJV is not for me. Kjv it's the THs and the dals. I know it's poetic, you know what I'm saying and it's like, but it's just.
Speaker 1And they're delicious because they have meaning. You know those THs have meaning.
Speaker 2I just I got to think real hard. I mean, you should think when you read the Bible, but like I don't need like an extra layer of having to think and you know what.
Speaker 1Like I was telling, I told, I know I told Harry one time, but just in general, like, okay, when we were at Easter last year when we came to you guys' house and we were reading scriptures and I was going to try to read, I don't know if it was NLT, it had to be NLT. And I was like, no, that's so confusing to me, so it's backwards, it throws me off and it just be like I don't know. Let me not throw you off, then no no no, because you here.
Speaker 1so you know, and I'm reading alongside of you Now.
Speaker 2I can meet you in the middle. I can meet you in the middle with Amplify. I like Amplify. No, let's go. Nlt, okay, nlt.
Speaker 2Because I feel like Holy Spirit told me to read NLT last night for a reason Am I reading both of of passage we're looking at is 1 Samuel 15, 10 through 11 in the NLT it reads Then the Lord said to Samuel I am sorry that I ever made Saul king, for he has not been loyal to me and has refused to obey my command. Samuel was so deeply moved when he heard this that he cried out to the Lord. All night that man was weeping, all night he was grieved no sleep that was his boy now he's waking up in the morning even more stressed.
Speaker 1But you know what? I could see that and that's why I say I always uh, what I love about the word. It gives the honest reaction of people. In the bible it wasn't like sammy was delighted because he was he wasn't he was mad and I would imagine him, you know, feeling a way about Saul because he's been working with him closely, that's his.
Speaker 4What is it Mentee, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1So you know, and if you're real about working with people, then you do get an attachment to them.
Speaker 2Right.
Speaker 1That man cried out all night, all night.
Speaker 2I ain't no Richie, Wow. Okay, our second little piece we're looking at is 1 Samuel 15, 23. Jumping down the same passage of Scripture just a little further down, I just want to pause here. I encourage everybody go read the whole entire. And in fact at the Christianist night which I talked to you about which that? Was what the event was called. It was called Christianist for the Young Adult. So, we talked and unpacked this whole culture, Christianity being halfway in.
Speaker 3Yeah, it was yeah.
Speaker 2And I, literally I was going to try to skip around the passage, but Holy Spirit was like no. I need to, and I read the literally pretty much the whole entire chapter, from verses one all the way down to like 29, 30.
Speaker 1Now have your way if that's what you want to do right here. That's cool, it's cool.
Speaker 2We can hop around.
Speaker 1Let's do it because I like to read Later when we jump down.
Speaker 2I got some more points. I pulled for more.
Speaker 1Come on with it.
Speaker 2Our next focus is 1 Samuel, 15, 23,. Just a little further down, rebellion is as sinful as witchcraft and stubbornness as bad as worshiping idols.
Speaker 1Idols.
Speaker 2So because you have rejected the command of the Lord, he has rejected you as king.
Speaker 1That's a strong super strong.
Speaker 2That's a strong consequence you calling me a witch, a witch.
Speaker 1And now I'm taking part in idolatry.
Speaker 2Right.
Speaker 1Am, I am, I totally against God Right?
Compromised Obedience
Speaker 2Am I Jesus? Am I Jesus? And so what? What I see here cause I know we got some questions, but what I see immediately from this passage of Scripture is what I'm calling compromised obedience, because that's exactly what he did. Compromised obedience.
Speaker 1And you know what he felt like that was good enough Right, so much so that he lied to Samuel.
Speaker 2Lied to that man.
Speaker 1The Lord had instructed him to pretty much get rid of everything of the Amalekites.
Speaker 2He was told, when you go and that's actually if you follow. I think that's in earlier passages, it's in Leviticus, deuteronomy, where the Lord literally says when you go into these lands and other people are occupying you're not supposed to destroy everything, don't take a single thing. So this is something that he been do, been do. And then, to follow it up, you know. Samuel then reminded him hey, when you go in there, don't touch nothing, don't touch nothing.
Speaker 1You know what that reminds me of? Okay, like there's a movie for everything. There's a song for everything Right, because it comes out of here, whether it stays true to the text or it gets perverted. Aladdin, okay, you remember when they went down into that little cave thing?
Speaker 3Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1And he was only supposed to get the lamp out of there.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 1And Abu got greedy and started touching everything.
Speaker 4Yeah, yeah, yeah, baby, they almost got swallowed up in the earth Swallowed up.
Speaker 2Swallowed up Because he went up in there touching stuff he wasn't supposed to touch. Wow, Such is Saul. What's crazy is in. I don't have it actually highlighted, but it's in here in verse 15, or in the chapter 15, that it says that he kept what appealed to him, what appealed to him, which is insane. It's insane, but it got me thinking, like, how much stuff, like did God tell us not to interact with, but our appetites are leading us down bad roads?
Speaker 1What did Scripture say? You were driven by your own, seduced by your own lust.
Speaker 2Dragged away when you're enticed, you know what your appetites are, the things that you got to get in control.
Speaker 1That's why he told us to taste and see that he is good, I'm just seeing that I'm just seeing that too. Oh, my God. That's why he said taste and see that I'm good. That's why he said taste and see that I'm good. I'm better than what you're trying to taste over there.
Speaker 2I need to write that down.
Speaker 1What the boy say. I was watching Living Single. I'm writing that down, look I'm. And it was this episode with Kyle. Kyle and Overton are best friends and roommates. Kyle brings home this girl that he was talking to right, and she tries to hit on Overton right. So Overton told Kyle and Kyle couldn't believe it because you know, he felt like he was just so much more debonair and so much more appealing than Overton, right. And so Kyle asked Overton, why would she want chicken tenders? When she can have filet mignon Right.
Speaker 2And so look at us, the Lord is telling us I'm filet mignon, yeah, I'm filet mignon. And you out here trying chicken tenders. Right there, popcorn shrimp, you can eat chicken tenders, man come on, man come on. You know what's crazy is? I had this thought too, that the things that are more than likely 9 out of 10 times good for you are the things, 9 out of 10 times, that we don't enjoy eating.
Speaker 1We don't enjoy eating.
Speaker 2You know why we don't have an appetite for it because we're so used to the other stuff.
Speaker 1This goes back to Paul, right, uh-huh? When Paul was telling him you know, don't be out here having sex without these women. Yep, because your body remembers it, it takes record of it. And now, when you get to what you should be, enjoying, you can't enjoy it and only know you said something and only know you can't enjoy it because you done had all these other things, all these other things and look something, and only know you can't enjoy it because you didn't have all these other things, all these other things and look, that's why, that's why my mom used to get mad when I was in the car and I was like I want mcdonald's and she's like, well, I made dinner.
Speaker 2I said I don't want it, I don't want that, I want mcdonald's because taste and see the dinner was better the dinner was better than the mcdonald's. I don't want. No, I wanted the McDonald's.
Speaker 1And look, that's good Going into making the meal. She's doing it with love Jesus. Has he not done this with love Jesus?
Speaker 3my.
Speaker 1God and telling us to taste and see.
Speaker 2Yeah. But we want McDonald's, but we want McDonald's, and that McDonald's is killing you.
Speaker 1And it's nasty, Like it's nasty.
Speaker 2So the big takeaway that I pulled from this passage of Scripture is that Saul kept what he should have killed what he should have killed. He kept what he should have killed.
Speaker 1And that's why we have to die daily.
Speaker 2That's why we got to die daily and evaluate our lives. Are we keeping things around us that we should actually be killing? That we should be killing, because in order to follow Christ, in order to be a full follower of Christ, you got to be willing to leave some things, like when Jesus called out to his disciples when they're on the boat fishing, and he called out to them and he said come, follow me. Like drop your nets and pick up this other net over here and come follow me and you'll be fishers of men Like they had to leave something in order to follow him.
Speaker 1See what I'm saying, absolutely.
Speaker 2So you got to be willing to leave some stuff in order to be a full followers of Jesus, and I just don't think that in today, that's not a popular message.
Speaker 1It's not a popular message, right? You know what they like to say when this is brought up. You judging me.
Speaker 3Yeah, you judging. I feel like you judging me.
Speaker 1You don't know about the love of Christ. This lets me know that y'all don't actually understand what love is.
Speaker 3Right.
Speaker 1In its full capacity.
Speaker 4Love is correction also Right.
Speaker 1Love is me telling you no Right.
Speaker 2Somebody. You got to have somebody in your life that's able to say To check you. Yeah, hey Joe, I want to do that. Hey bro, why would you talk to? Why would you you know? Why aren't you being consistent in this area?
Speaker 1Why.
Speaker 2Why.
Speaker 1Why would you post that? Why would?
Speaker 2you post that you need to have some take it down friends.
Speaker 4Take it down. I saw the story.
Speaker 2Erase it, take it down. I saw you, little petty, go ahead and delete that comment, are you okay?
Speaker 1Because what is this? But? We don't like that you okay, because what is this?
Speaker 2But we don't like that. We don't like it. I need friends who are fruitful.
Speaker 3That's how I like to say it.
Speaker 2We need fruitful relationships in our lives, not fruitless friends. Fruitful friends can actually call me, they can check me, they can challenge me, they want the best for me. Absolutely. You can't say that you're actually loving me with the love of Christ and seeing that I'm going down a dark road that's going to lead to destruction, that's going to lead to me hurting myself, that's going to lead to me setting myself back and you not say something.
Speaker 1And this is an important part of what you said loving me with the love of Christ and see me going down. And then this, too, it makes me think of the scripture too. The brother is born for adversity. Sometimes that adversity is a conversation that you and I have to have.
Speaker 4Right.
Speaker 1And I know what I'm going to say to you.
Speaker 4Yeah, your flesh ain't going to like it, right.
Speaker 2But your spirit's going to rejoice.
Speaker 4But the spirit got to rejoice. Your spirit's like, yes yes, yes indeed.
Speaker 1Tell him, tell him and your brother's like no, no, no, Tell her Right so sometimes we may you know, depending on to a degree you may be upset with me for a little while, Right, but that's okay.
Speaker 2Because in the long run you're going to be very appreciative.
Speaker 1I'm going to tell y'all my mom used to tell me hate me now love me later and. I used to hate it too, but you know, when you grow up and you see, and you know that what needs to happen, it is what it is, and you love me. You be like you know what, mama? Yeah.
Speaker 2You was right. I was just thinking while you were speaking. I think one of the poorest statements to hear from a friend is something along the lines of man I was going to, oh, man, I, I, oh yeah. I felt that I meant to tell you yeah now I should have because that's after the fact. And now you walking in this drop that on you for a reason. What do?
Speaker 1they call it in the natural. What is it when you be a part of the Part of the crime too? Not guilt by association. No when you hide in that person. What is it called? It's right on the tip of my tongue. Anyway, now you a part of it too, because of yeah, accessory.
Speaker 4Thank you, praise God for Now. You're an accessory. Thank you, h&i. Praise God for it.
Speaker 1Now you're an accessory to it because you had a part in it too To say no, jesus, don't do that.
Speaker 3Jesus.
Speaker 1And we see, even with Samuel loving his boy like he did, he had to tell him.
Speaker 2Yeah, did he had to tell him. Yeah, I had to tell him what god said, right, what the lord? Yeah, come on th yeah.
Speaker 1But going back to this disobedience thing.
David vs. Saul: Heart Differences
Speaker 2This is something that I thought about too. Selective obedience is still disobedience. So, like you can't just choose what parts of god like you want to follow, absolutely okay, I'm gonna follow you while you go to. You know these towns, jesus, but when you go over here, like nah I don't feel like yeah I'm gonna just no, it's a full follow.
Speaker 2It's a full follow, so we can't just look to the word and just pick and choose, like what parts of the bible like we want to go with absolutely. Like, okay, I'm cool with you know the well, maybe I'm not. Uh, yeah, maybe i'm'm cool with the gossip thing. But this forgiveness thing I'm holding on.
Speaker 1Yeah, I'm holding on, I'm holding on to it, but we try to reason with it too, to my forgiveness.
Speaker 2Well, you don't know what they did, or you don't know what she did, or you know what oh and it keeps me safe. But the word literally says forgive, forgive.
Speaker 1Quickly. So that's two things we disobeyed, we didn't forgive and we didn't do it correctly. And the thing about rules and everything. For the most part we think it's trying to keep us from doing something that we would enjoy, when really it's trying to keep us alive, it's not trying to kill us, because we now know, and science is catching up with some of the consequences that come with unforgiveness. You can get sick in your actual physical body.
Speaker 2For real.
Speaker 1Holding on to unforgiveness.
Speaker 4For real.
Speaker 1And thriving and swimming in greed. I'm not greedy, what's the word? There's another G word I'm looking for, and grudges and people be so proud.
Speaker 4I hope grudges. Yeah, but I ain't never going to forget.
Speaker 1Man, you not hurting them. Right, they don't care, right, they do not care. And be moving on with their life and living blessed, and you over here still holding them to something.
Speaker 2To something Another thing like okay, yeah, I like this. You know this killing thing, because I'm not going to kill anybody, right? But this sex thing?
Speaker 4oh yeah, that's my girlfriend.
Speaker 2That's my boyfriend I'm about to get married to him. Yeah, so I'm not going to follow that part because I don't like that part.
Speaker 1With your mercy gonna follow that part because I don't like that part.
Speaker 2Oh my god, mercy we're. It's indication that a lot of times, we're being led more by our feelings our flesh too and our flesh and our feelings and flesh versus literally just being led by the word versus being worried about led by the word.
Speaker 1I was just um thinking about romans 8. This is my one of my favorite chapters and he talks about that being led by the spirit or being led by the flesh, and we see that again with Saul right. Another reason he kept some of those things is because he was scared of what the people were going to say.
Speaker 3Scared about what the people were going to say, and he was saying well, they kept this.
Speaker 1And then look what he tried to say At least it's the best, the best cattle, the best, whatever, I don't care about that. We got rid of the other stuff, but we kept the best. Then he told him so we could offer it.
Speaker 2Back as, like that was going to do God a favor.
Speaker 1Man, how you offer something to God that he don't want.
Speaker 2Doesn't make sense. Why?
Speaker 1Why, If I ask you okay, what do you need?
Speaker 3Right.
Speaker 1And I tell you well, I need some tennis shoes size 10. Right, why would you bring me tennis shoes that are size 15? Make that, make sense. What can I do with?
Speaker 2them Can't do nothing.
Speaker 1That's not what I want. If I ask you for tennis shoes, why are you bringing me broccoli right? That's not what I and I don't care. It's the best broccoli I can't do that with that concern in my feet right when they need shoes my god that's not what I. That's what, not what I asked.
Speaker 2That's not what I asked you know it's crazy, he, he cared more about what the people thought than what god thought than what god thought he Than what God thought. He killed more about the people than he did God.
Speaker 1Not even taking into consideration the consequences of that, because he was thinking that, okay, well, I know he told me to get rid of this, but since it's the best, he ain't going to be tripping.
Speaker 3Right.
Speaker 1And what do we do we're listening to? And what do we do we're listening to? And what he did too? We be guilty of this too, sometimes, knowing what God told us, letting our friends convince us to do something else, to listen to something that God told us not to listen to go to a place where he didn't tell you not to.
Speaker 2He told you to leave those people alone and you over there hanging out. He told you to leave those people alone, absolutely, and you over there hanging out with them and you hanging out with them.
Speaker 1I know what was that? Not too long ago, there was a situation in New Orleans where a girl was told by her parents not to go somewhere.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 1She went, got killed when that guy ran into the people with his vehicle. Really she got killed and so I don't. You know, we never know to what degree?
Speaker 2What's on the other side of the obedience?
Speaker 1We never know. We never know. We never know if it's something we can bounce back from, something that's going to take us out, something that's going to stay with us forever. Right, you know what I'm saying. We don't know what that is.
Speaker 2You know what I'm saying, wow another thing that I see in this scripture, um which I'm trying to know. It's not I don't think it's in the passage that we um exactly looked at, but it says a little further down, I think, after verse 23 it says that God was sorry that he made him he was sorry but you know, it's crazy, when I look back into this just this account right here I don't see a spot where it says Saul said he was sorry.
Speaker 1It didn't. He never said it, so how?
Speaker 2is God more sorry for you than you are for you he never did apologize.
Speaker 1How is he more sorry? And we saw where he didn't want Samuel to leave him.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1But he never was like.
Speaker 2Like God, I did this against you.
Speaker 1I sent this against you, Right? He never said yeah, I messed up.
Speaker 2I had one of my messages that I spoke. I had six. I called it the six C's of Christian-ish.
Speaker 4Come on.
Speaker 2The six C's are compromise and obedience. Number two is copying culture. Number three is counterfeit spirituality. Number four is crafty excuses. Number five is condoning sin.
Speaker 1Counterfeit spirituality.
Speaker 2Number six is casual repentance. Casual repentance and that's exactly what he did, because it was never a full repentance.
Speaker 1It was never a full repentance. It was like yeah.
Speaker 2And then it's like Well, I feel, samuel, at least come back with me. Yeah, so I don't look like a clown, or a fool in front of these dudes. And it's like Yo you're missing the whole entire point the whole point. You're missing the whole entire point.
Speaker 1You're missing the whole point. Isn't that something? Counterfeit spirituality and casual repentance, counterfeit spirituality.
Speaker 2I'm jumping down Casual repentance.
Speaker 1I told y'all he was on the. He's been elevated. I told y'all.
Speaker 2Casual repentance or counterfeit spirituality. Rather, it's rooted out of 1 Samuel, 15, 13. It says, when Samuel finally found him, saul greeted him cheerfully. May the Lord bless you he said I'm crying out to the Lord's command. I've done the lord's command. First of all, you lying bro lying right away you lying, but then you try to come with, like this church jargon too, like he, like he don't know what you just did may the lord bless you.
Speaker 2I said my boy was real cunning right there counterfeit spiritual is like when you're trying to project like this level of like spirituality you posting all these scriptures, you worshiping me, you shouting, you run around the building, but then you go out during the week and your life looks completely opposite of what you're just trying to project and it's like god. It's not like god sees that what you're trying to project and he just go with that no he, he sees around that.
Speaker 2Actually he sees through that. He see that's a better way to put it.
Speaker 1He sees in the heart. He sees right through it, yeah, right to your heart.
Speaker 2He sees it isn't that what he said that they're. They're gonna worship me with their lips with their hearts come from spirituality that's not real
Speaker 1from it, my lord that's not giving Pharisees who wanted to be seen doing all the things, and then you got the scripture right in your face, in the body, and you're going against everything he's saying.
Speaker 2You're going against everything he's just talking about Because it's not in your heart. It's not.
Speaker 1This is just a show is what they used to call it back in the day.
Speaker 2A big old show. A big old show, just a puppet.
Speaker 1In the name of Jesus.
Speaker 2In the name.
Speaker 1I feel like they was the first ones saying but Lord we did this in your name.
Speaker 2I don't care about that, because your heart wasn't even there, your heart wasn't there. It was in it for you and not in it for the life To be seen.
Speaker 1That's why you told them you want to be seen. You already got your reward. I don't have to reward you.
Speaker 2I don't have to reward you, gotta reward you, yeah. So I was immediately. Some of the things I was able to pull going to your first question that you gave me, which was what was the major difference between king saul and king david?
Speaker 1what was the major difference? And I had that question. Uh, I know it was a question that I had when I was younger.
Avoiding Being Dethroned
Speaker 1Yeah, and you know when I was younger, yeah, and you know when I was younger, just you know, physically, naturally younger, yeah, and younger than Christ, and I feel like this is a question that people have. I feel like this is a question that's been on hearts. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, and I know why I had that question. Because I felt like in my mind, in my natural finite mind, I felt like in my mind, in my natural finite mind, what was the difference between Saul and King David? Because we, as people, we measure sin. I felt like David was way more out of pocket than Saul was in my mind.
Speaker 1But I know the difference now, but you know, back in the day, I was like man. Saul did that one thing Like you know like come on man. Like they was really out here wilding.
Speaker 2Right right.
Speaker 3Like wilding, wilding Right.
Speaker 1So much so he couldn't even build a temple, so much so he had to curse his family. The Lord told him the sword would never leave his house. His children was killing each other.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 1The brother Tripping Took the sister against her will. You know all the things that David had going on, but it was magnified.
Speaker 3Wow. That's an episode right there and all of this bookmarked that.
Speaker 2Yeah, what you doing yeah.
Speaker 1But I feel like David was way more out of pocket than Saul. But he still gets the title of man after God's own heart.
Speaker 2Yeah, and I was thinking about that last night. I was kind of preparing and the thought that kind of hit me was that the difference was that Saul's heart was centered on Saul. While David's heart was centered on God. Yes, and you'll see, like even during and I have a couple of examples that David takes the census. Yes, that was a big mistake. Yes, it was, and then of course, David and Bathsheba. But you see in both spots that he turns straight to God.
Speaker 4Immediately.
Speaker 2Like in his one account, 2 Samuel, 24, 10, it says but after he had taken the census, David's conscience began to bother him that man got some. Yeah, he got. What it really was was conviction it was conviction began to bother him and he said to the lord I have sinned greatly by taking the senses. Please forgive my guilt, yes, lord, for doing this foolish yes indeed so that shows you exactly accountability exactly where his heart is right, but we go back up now.
Speaker 2We just contrast this with Saul and it was excuse. It was well, I needed and I needed and I thought, and I was going to do this for you. It was all this other stuff and the people.
Speaker 1it was giving Adam that woman Right.
Speaker 2But with David it was just straight up. Lord, I did that. I did it. Please forgive me.
Speaker 1I did that. I I did it, please forgive me.
Speaker 2I did that, I'm a fool, I messed up, and so I think that's just a beautiful picture, I guess, if you will like, of the big contrast between. Why could a person who you know, just looking at it is ten times worse?
Speaker 1in action like be labeled like a man after God's own heart, and he never loses that label Because he never stopped pursuing his heart. He never stopped pursuing it, even in messing up. It's definitely an account of what's the word I'm looking for. It reminds me when you go to Hosea and God tells Hosea to marry the woman of Hortum. And he's still faithful to this woman of Hortum.
Speaker 3You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1And definitely types and shadows of Jesus concerning us and how he feels about us, and that's another part that I saw with the account of David.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 1And, like you say, he very much took responsibility and accountability for what he had going on.
Speaker 2He never blamed anybody else. Why do you think it's so hard for people Like what's the hard part about the accountability, do you think?
Speaker 1It's just too much easier to blame anybody else. It's just an easy cop-out.
Speaker 2It's just so easy. But, like Pastor Lillard said today, like some of this hurt, some of this stuff, that wasn't just you know them. It was you, it was you, it was you being 10 times easier for you to just say, yeah, that like I was disobedient the lord told me to leave that church, the lord told me to leave that relationship, but I just refused. I just refused.
Speaker 1I wanted to stay and you know what I'm gonna say this now that we're here, a lot of that unforgiveness that we harbor, it's not even for those people, jesus, you know, it's for ourselves wow, but we don't want to, you don't want to say, we don't want to say that I'm, I'm get the honor of at the church, being part of uh freedom which freedom is.
Speaker 2I encourage anybody. If you're church, I just ask your leaders at your church or find a church because a lot of times you don't even necessarily be part of a church to do freedom right. You can find small groups and and do the curriculum. It's literally life-changing. I've I've gone through it myself personally twice, um, and I've now been leading it for I don't know how many semesters but it's been over four and each time I get something new.
Speaker 2But but I'm part of this freedom semester now, leading a group of men and me and Trey that's Trey we co-leaded together, we lead together and we got to this forgiveness week just recently and I challenged one of the guys because you know, he's explaining the situation and his situation was real.
Speaker 4Like he has some real life happen.
Speaker 2And I just kind of looked at him and I said okay, well, you've forgiven them and you've forgiven that person. Okay, but what about yourself? And he just got quiet and I said for you, like what does, what does? Actually, I told him, I said this is going to be your homework assignment, your personal homework assignment.
Speaker 2I'm going to follow up with you. What does forgiving yourself look like? Like? What does it look like? And he was like, he just looked at me and he said you know, I don't know, I really don't know. And I said well, bro, I want you to get with Holy Spirit, you know, over the next several days. I I said, and you just have a moment with him and you just talk to him and get some type of working definition, get some type of because we need to start putting something into action, because you can't continue to leave yourself on the hook that God had already taken you off of, because that's literally what like battling unforgiveness with yourself, like that's literally what like battling unforgiveness with yourself, like that's literally what that looks like. God has already taken you off the hook, but you were you. You just you ever seen that spongebob episode? What?
Speaker 1ah, lord, uh, my spongebob references there's a, there's a spongebob episode where um there are hooks that came down, keep coming down and they used them as swings and stuff like that but, the whole joke was like y'all are fish and y'all are you're hanging around something.
Speaker 2Again, you're hanging around something that's killing you. That's killing you, but that's just like. That's the image that comes to mind and that's what it's meant for. Like you're literally putting yourself back on the hook.
Speaker 4That Jesus has already taken you off Because.
Speaker 2Because it literally says that, and Pastor preached it today. I'm not trying to take his message, but I'm just going with what my man of God has already given us. It literally says in the word that he's already forgiven our sins and he doesn't remember them. So if you've gone through this true heart of repentance and you've actually turned, it says that he doesn't remember them. He doesn't remember it.
Speaker 1So why do you keep putting yourself back in remembrance of something that he already forgot? I forgot it before it even was a thing. Yeah, he had already put that plan in place.
Speaker 2He already put the plan in place.
Speaker 1And you know what, now that we're here, I have another reason why it's harder, that I think, for people to take accountability. You know why? Because let's just say this situation, on relationships, or anything, let's say, well, let's say this I decided in my heart that I want to buy someone something.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 1And the Lord tells me well, no, don't do that.
Speaker 4Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1And I do it anyway.
Speaker 4And you know what?
Speaker 1the excuse I'm gonna use. Well, I was doing it out of the kindness of my heart and so that's, that's why we hold on to that too that's coming back up.
Speaker 2You're gonna have to give me the exact words, but it says something to the effect of like our hearts are deceitful hearts are deceitful, so like we shouldn't be following them in the first place. So that was a very cute, you know reason, very cute reason, but we hop out of that.
Speaker 1We hop out of that because, well, I had good intentions when I was getting with this guy. The Holy Spirit told me that I showed him all the love to help him change Misplaced.
Speaker 2Misplaced.
Speaker 1Disobedient and misplaced. That's the recipe for disaster Right and but disobedience in this place that's the recipe for disaster Right, and now you're dealing with a disaster and you only want to blame him.
Speaker 2Jesus, we got to stop moving off of intention. Yeah, stop moving off of feels. I feel.
Speaker 2Stop moving off of, like, what we think makes sense. We got to start moving off of the word of God, like what did God tell you? Because it's concrete. I had a lunch with another dude another guy I think like two weeks ago, and we're just sitting there talking and he's talking about the transition that he's about to go through and how he's thinking about taking this opportunity, which is light years away, and he's having a hard time seeing the position that God has him in now where he has abundant favor.
Speaker 2He's like, literally, sitting right up underneath a guy that's making major moves here, in the position that God has him in now, where he has abundant favor. He's like literally, um, sitting right up underneath a guy that's making major moves here in the city and like you're battling, like considering leaving this where clearly like God's doing something here to go pursue something out there and, like my one question is did God, is God leading you there, mm-hmm.
Speaker 4Did God tell you yeah, and he's like no. Well, that's clear.
Speaker 2So we don't even need to have a conversation of what you need to do.
Speaker 1No, you don't need to yeah To have a solid no like that and you still he was like no, straight up.
Speaker 2He was like no, no. So what are we doing? We're going off of intentions, we're going off of feelings, but it feels right in it. Okay, you go out there if you want to.
Speaker 3Right.
Speaker 1It's like that reminds me of when the Lord told Paul not to go somewhere.
Speaker 3Yep.
Speaker 4And he went, and he got jumped like physically jumped.
Speaker 1Right, Like you didn't even have to take them punches all them kicks in the head.
Speaker 2If you just stayed over here, you almost died.
Speaker 4Man.
Speaker 1If you just stayed over here If you had just stayed Right and surely you know he had intentions of doing good things.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 1But the Lord told him no.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 1And you went over here and got beat down. Yeah, yeah, it's crazy, yeah, and it's always. And what I love about the word too, we tend to learn too when we well, this generation fights that too, because they be saying they want to buy the sense rather than you know they got to buy the sense they sell.
Speaker 2Crazy.
Speaker 1But the word allows us to see different degrees of things. And you just be like, well, you know what, I ain't going to do that Right, right Right, because it's clear, it shows us things, and that you just be like, well, you know what I ain't gonna do that right right right because it's clear, it shows us yeah it shows us we gotta get to the point where it's like experience doesn't like have to be the main teacher yeah, and it's. You don't have to be the best teacher someone said something to me crazy, though.
Speaker 2They said well yeah, typically I gotta go through stuff in order to learn. I'm like, well, that's an insane statement that's very insane and I told him. I said well, we gotta change that immediately and he kinda like and I was like yeah, because experience is not.
Speaker 1It's so noble and hard and gangster.
Speaker 2I gotta go through stuff in order to no you don't you gotta experience being punched in the face?
Speaker 1to know how to dodge, come on you can just dodge by not being in the place. Come on now, right. And not being in the place, right, right, how about we just learn to have an appetite for the word and go to the word and see stuff, because that's another thing I was going to say.
Speaker 2I feel like a lot of times when we approach the Bible, we try to like you know. A lot of times we're like the David you know, but you have to know what season you're in, and I think that's what, going back to your point, I think that's what's the beautiful thing about the word yeah because if you know what season and you're also in tune with holy spirit, holy spirit will also be able, in your hearts, open.
Speaker 2Holy spirit will actually show you know, in this season you actually not david in this season, you actually saw in this season, you, not you know, david, in this season, you, you go live or you know what I'm saying, or in this season. You, you're, not, you're not saw.
Speaker 1You're actually paul, you're, you're, you're, you're more. You know what I'm saying? Or in this season, you're not, you're acting like the children of Israel.
Speaker 2I'm telling you You're not Saul, you're actually.
Speaker 1Paul, you're Paul.
Speaker 2You're more, you know what I'm saying, but we got to be open to Holy Spirit and just understand. You know what seasons we're in as we're looking to the word, because, again, when we come to the word to actually read it, we're actually being able to have proper context if you will, yes absolutely and understand where it seats in our life currently.
Speaker 1Absolutely, and that's again speaking to the whole.
Speaker 2You know the word is living and breathing.
Speaker 1And breathing it's a mirror. You're not David, all the time. You're not David all the time.
Speaker 2You're not.
Speaker 1You're not. Sometimes you act more like Saul. Absolutely You're acting like Saul, you acting like Jezebel, you acting like whoever. But you know that's been a common theme for me also. With going back and reading all these accounts, I always say we can see ourselves easily in any of these people Easily, and we're honest with ourselves, especially the children of Israel. We're honest with ourselves Easily. I had this conversation with Del. Yeah, especially the children of Israel. We're honest with ourselves, yeah, easily. Yeah, I had this conversation with Nalana earlier. We were talking about the children of Israel and how you know everything be going good. They be all for the Lord. Two blinks later, they out here creating idols. My thing is this how you worshiping something that you had to create, y'all had to pull y'all jewelry together and gold together and make something, and make something.
Speaker 1And you're worshiping that rather than the true and living God.
Speaker 2I talk about. They must be going crazy out there in the wilderness.
Speaker 1They must have been losing their mind. Was it cabin fever? I don't know what it was.
Speaker 2They must have been going crazy. They were disobedient, they got bit by a weird mosquito or something that made everybody go crazy, but we do it all the time.
Speaker 1We do it all the time, all the time. Everything is going well.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 1Then we start, you know, praying as much, we ain't reading as much. So when something goes crazy, now we're on our knees, yeah, and you know that's not to say. The Lord is always looking for us. So I mean, when you find yourself in that position, that's not to say that he'll you know, reject you. Yeah, yeah, he's definitely the father waiting on the prodigal son, but we shouldn't want to always be doing that.
Speaker 3Right.
Speaker 1We shouldn't want to be in that situation all the time.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 1And always, you know, running to him when or something is wrong. But we could have just stayed with him all along.
Speaker 2Could have just stayed.
Speaker 1Could have just stayed with him, stayed in contact with him. We don't like it as humans.
Speaker 3No.
Speaker 1Somebody only calling you when they want something.
Speaker 3Right.
Speaker 1Some numbers you see popping up what they want Because they don't call no other time. You don't have no real relationship with them. You know what I'm saying. Some phone calls I see I get joy and other phone calls. I know something is going to be required.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 1And I'm not. I'd be like I have to think about it. You know what I'm saying.
Breaking Free From Appetites
Speaker 2Yeah. But, I think that's kind of a and we talked about this this past semester in freedom too. Like when do we run to God? Do we only come to God when something's wrong?
Speaker 3Or do we actually like are?
Speaker 2trying to at least live in this relationship with Him where you can just talk to Him just when you're. We just got to be careful and I just want to challenge anyone who might be listening Assess what your conversation with God looked like, and I think that's a good indication of where you might be in your relationship with Him. If you're only talking about what you need and you're only running to him for emergencies and all that stuff, I would admonish or I would encourage you. You got to take your relationship with him further.
Speaker 1You got to take it further. He got to take it seriously.
Speaker 2I mean he knows all. But like I would just be kind of annoyed, I would be mad We'd have to go to counseling if Kyra the only time she came to me to talk to me was because you know when she wants something.
Speaker 3When she wants something or when she's wrong.
Speaker 2Yeah, when something's wrong or when she needs something.
Speaker 1Now I'm your husband today. Right, right, right.
Speaker 2No, I want to hear when she's having a good day. Want you to talk to me what's going on in your mind? Like right, she gets on me because I ask questions all the time. But those are the questions I'm asking, like hey, what you?
Speaker 3thinking about hey, what's?
Speaker 2stressing you what's worrying you you know what went well, like yeah, what do you? What are you believing for right? What like? These are the conversations like I feel like a real relationship have?
Speaker 2absolutely, but if we're only running to him when we want something, when we need something. Yeah, I would encourage you to. Yeah, you, you got to push, push past. Like this changed my quiet time for real. I would always talk about, you know, and I think it's important we have to offload our cares, right, I think that. So. So you got to hear me correctly, because I'm not saying don't do this, but like I had to really check, or I got checked, you know well, I checked myself. It was led of Holy Spirit to check myself in my quiet time, to assess my conversation, because, like, I found like the only things I was really talking about was the stuff that I needed, and I said, you know what I told God one morning, and this is one that I'll change I said I'm not even going to talk to you today about my necessarily needs.
Speaker 3Because you know my needs.
Speaker 2You actually have a plan set up for all the, for the needs, so there's no point for me to talk about a plan that you already have.
Speaker 1I just want to tell you how much I love you. Stevie wonder gave it to us in a song he did, I just called, I just called yeah yeah, he gave it to us in a song, and I sat there literally for 30 minutes and I just had a heart of gratitude.
Speaker 2And I just I went through and I just thanked him. I wrote down just as much things as I could remember and I was overwhelmed, I just started crying.
Speaker 4Not talking about my needs.
Speaker 2Not talking about my needs, and I left that time so filled, so filled Going over the goodness. Just and honestly in a moment of yeah, it was prayer, but it was honestly looking, it was an in-depth moment of true worship. Not necessarily worshiping him for necessarily what he's done but, being thankful and overwhelmed by who he is who.
Speaker 1He is, solely who. He is, who he is. Yesterday I was at a prayer breakfast and we quoted the 23rd Psalm, right, and so the first line kind of was you know? I heard it differently yesterday. You know, that's the thing too, when you get familiar with Scripture and you get real common with it. Sometimes it's just like a, you just roll like oil and water, like you know what I'm saying. Oh, I already know that scripture, been knowing it since I was a baby.
Speaker 1Yeah, the first line says our father jesus just right here, our father, right we could park right there we could stop right there. So not only does that part show us who he is to us, he shows us, who we are jesus to him, yeah, his children, yeah, son right his children, his sons yeah yeah, he is so just right there like you know how long, how many times, infinite amount of times I have quoted the 23 songs and the word is just so genuine toward us.
Speaker 1He's always telling us, always whispering to us I love you, I want the best for you. I've already done it, matter of fact. It's just up to you to receive it and to take part in it. So I really heard that differently, just those two words, our Father, and it made me think about the children of Israel, at first, only knowing him as God, you know, feeling like he was just judgment, just fire, and brimstone yeah. And then they got to call him Abba.
Speaker 3Wow.
Speaker 1Now we know him in a different position. Now I'm not scared to run to him.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 1I don't feel like you know, every time I'm conversing with him. I got to be ducking and dodging.
Speaker 4If he reach out his hand.
Speaker 2Coming to mom? Yeah, he's not abusive.
Speaker 4You know what?
Speaker 1I'm saying so. I really heard that differently and I encourage people that you know in your relationship when you're reading scripture and let it be personal.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 1Let it be personal to you and you'll see like this man really does love me.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 1This man really cares for me, and a lot of times I think about children when they be acting out. Most of the time it's for a lack of attention, wow, or they don't feel loved, so is that us? Is that why we're? Doing part of the things why we're doing the things, because we don't understand fully how much God loves us.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 1And we don't take that into account. You know what I'm saying. We don't really see him as Father. We say it all the time oh Father, God, oh Jesus.
Speaker 2Don't just breeze over that. Let's park there.
Speaker 1Park it, our father.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1Wow, our father Wow. And if we think about the duties of a father, for his children.
Speaker 2I think it's hard.
Speaker 1Oh, it can be hard in certain situations.
Speaker 2It's hard for certain people because we either have a poor father, figure in our natural lives or we don't have a father figure.
Speaker 1Right, right.
Speaker 2Or the father that I know is. You know, not me personally, but I'm saying for somebody.
Speaker 1Absolutely.
Speaker 2Their father figure might be. Well, you know, he abusive, he beat me. I watched him beat my mom. I watched him Like one of the.
Speaker 1One of the ungodly things.
Speaker 2I'll tell you how many stories I've heard of, just you know, coming alongside people and learning their story. Yeah, like my dad. Like you know, broke my mama's nose with me Like, so that's—.
Speaker 1Or even killed.
Speaker 2So when we read something that says like our father, like that's immediately.
Speaker 1Well, they go back to our experience, but that's why we can't let our experience override who god really is, also exactly.
Speaker 1We can't go with the feelings, then yeah and I know that's that's you know much easier, yeah, said than done. But that's why even more reason to get deeper into the word, because you'll see his example of fatherhood, yeah, you'll see him taking care of his children. You know what I'm saying. So then that way you can have that perspective of what you know what the father is. That's why I was saying really the duties of real fatherhood, right.
Speaker 3You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2And them really doing and being, you know for sure, Father you know, but, and he already saying he's a father to the fatherless right, he's already already got you covered, taking that into account already got you covered, so ahead of time, so ahead of time and so intentional now you said something which let me just introduce. Can I introduce the second? Question come on the second question you gave me, which I feel like you should be reading, but it's okay.
Speaker 1No, you're good.
Speaker 3Number two, the question you gave me.
Speaker 2How can we avoid becoming dethroned? Or fired from a position by God and I just had a question because I got some stuff, okay, but I was like really like not struggling with this, but I was really just like on the couch yesterday like trying to filter and see where I land with this.
Speaker 2But I was really just, like you know, on the couch yesterday like trying to and see where I land with this do you feel as if and you said it earlier in the conversation about like god, like we move, but god like he kind of stands still, you said something to the effect um, do you feel like god dethrones us, or do you feel like God dethrones us, or do you feel like we dethrone ourselves? We?
Speaker 1dethrone ourselves, absolutely, absolutely. We do it all the time embellish, if you will, or expound okay, I always go back to my students, cause these are the areas where I experience a lot of things, cause I'm with them a lot. So let's say I told my children okay, you guys, we're going to go outside, but the condition is we have to finish all of our work. Yeah, right.
Speaker 3Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1So my kids, it's so funny because they just they wrestle with the thought of not being able to do do things that they want to do and doing the thing that needs to be done, so they can do what they want to do yeah right. So, uh, a couple of times we hadn't finished everything that we needed to do, and this is like going outside for you know, just just to be out there.
Speaker 4This is outside of.
Speaker 1You know Regulated PE time, but we didn't finish. We didn't finish our work in time Let me say it like that For us to go out there and have the time that they wanted to, and they were just so Crushed.
Speaker 2They were not crushed.
Speaker 1They were.
Speaker 2PO, oh man yeah.
Speaker 1And I be like Well, sweet child, you're not mad at me.
Speaker 2Right, you're mad at you, you're mad at yourself.
Speaker 1You know I can't hold up my end of the deal. Well, and I said really I can. Yeah, I have the ability to take you outside.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 1But we're missing your part, wow. So yeah, in those moments they dethrone themselves. Wow, absolutely dethrone them.
Speaker 2I agree with you, and that's where I kind of parked and what holy spirit kind of communicated to me was that, like positions from god, they, they aren't earned they're given they are given, it's like a grace gift.
Speaker 2So, like some people and that's why I just want to help somebody out here too, like you, like you trying to look at the position that he or she or they, you know whoever they might be and you're kind of angry, well, I want to free you right here. Like God gives the position, he does, he gives it, he gives the platform, he does. We are stewards.
Speaker 1Over Over.
Speaker 2Over the seat, over the position. Over the opportunity and Over the seat, over the position, over the opportunity, and so like to your point. I feel like we dethrone ourselves by being poor stewards, poor stewards, not stewarding it, you know well.
Speaker 1Right, just like Saul.
Speaker 2Yeah, and I found too that we got to be careful when we're trying to what's the word fight for a position that God hasn't graced you for, because then you try to build your own throne. You do. Now you're trying to create your own opportunity and you're trying to force yourself to a spot Like maybe it's not time for you to launch that podcast. Maybe it's not I know that might sound strong, because normally you hear from everybody launch start the podcast.
Speaker 2No, maybe Do it, scott. Maybe you don't need a mic right now, maybe you don't.
Speaker 3Maybe you got to grow up?
Speaker 2Yeah, maybe you got to grow up. Maybe you need to serve somebody first before you try to.
Speaker 1That makes me go back to again. My kids and I. We were studying colonial times, and here's a word that we don't really hear a whole lot anymore is the word apprentice.
Speaker 2It's the word apprentice.
Speaker 1We like to skip over that we like to skip over it, and now they call it internship. But you still don't really hear a whole lot of people saying that. But when you're a nurse, when you get in the medical field, you got to do it, you got to be what they call a resident.
Speaker 3A resident yeah, you got to do it.
Speaker 1You got to be under people who have already done this thing. Yeah, the will is already created.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 1Right, you got to learn how to control the will, how to master. You. Maybe can't even improve it, wow, but the will is done. So even improve it, wow, but the will is done. So they got to give you the bait. You got to follow them around Jesus. That's how you get your skin in the game.
Speaker 2I was having this thought last night too, as I was kind of thinking through this, that I was stuck on this word calling Mm-hmm. Like it's a calling, so he calls you.
Speaker 1He calls you.
Speaker 2Right, like, let me pick up my phone and try to call myself what you doing?
Speaker 1What if you just get up one day and yell out Joe, Right, come here, joe.
Speaker 4Right Right Doesn't make sense.
Speaker 2Tyra's gonna be sending a message to pray for her man of God. Get this man about my house because he's going crazy calling himself Daddy.
Speaker 1Right Say Lord, why are you calling?
Speaker 2yourself. Yeah, you can't call yourself.
Speaker 1He calls you. He calls you, you pick up the call.
Speaker 2You pick up the call, you pick up the call and I think, going back to this whole David Saul thing, that's exactly what we see. It wasn't like David was forcing himself into the palace, he wasn't. He was out doing his father's business, which was tending sheep out in the hills of nowhere.
Speaker 1And that was the difference. Also, he wasn't forcing himself into the palace.
Speaker 2He wasn't, but Saul was, even though he knew.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 1Samuel told him.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 1The Lord has rejected you. Yeah, he still tried to stay. He tried to even kill to stay in that position.
Speaker 2It's almost like a dual seeking, like David was seeking God, dual seeking like David was seeking God and as a result of him seeking God, then God sought David for an opportunity and put him in position. I feel strong, heavy, like that's going to free somebody right there, because you trying to figure out and scheme and plot and here's my 60 day, step by step. You're not going to be able to do that with this type of position that God has for you.
Speaker 2He has for you, but it comes at a specific time and a specific season. You just keep seeking God with a purity of heart. Hey, seek first the kingdom. Scripture.
Speaker 1Then it's going to be added.
Speaker 2I wish I knew the exact spot because I pulled just like my pastor, I hear you Come here, come here. Wherever that's at In the word, come here, come here.
Speaker 1Yeah, seek first and everything else, everything else Is gonna be added and he goes back to here. Here's the what pastor be saying. Here's the witness Two or more.
Speaker 2He goes back to Back in Psalms With David telling us To delight ourselves In the Lord.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 1And he'll give us the desires.
Speaker 2Of our heart. He won't. He won't Appoint you to a place that he hasn't yet Anointed you for. That's right.
Speaker 1Because the anointing had to come first.
Speaker 3Before they were even king, yeah Right it had to be anointed for.
Speaker 1He said yeah, that's the one, that's the one, that's the one. And look, samuel didn't, he didn't go by what was appealing? Well, he did in his mind.
Speaker 2Yeah, in his mind.
Speaker 1But he had to follow what God said. What God said.
Speaker 2And this oil is not for you. We even know it's not for you.
Speaker 1We even know, jesse felt like yeah.
Speaker 3Bring that boy right here first.
Speaker 1Cause I know he look like a king.
Speaker 2Right, he look like a king Right.
Speaker 1Bring the other one. He done brought six boys out here.
Speaker 2Nah, there's got to be one more Six or seven boys out here? Yeah, Are you talking about Dave? Oh yeah.
Speaker 1He out back. Yeah, you talking about him.
Speaker 2I can go get him if you want, but you might want to cover your nose for this Right. He got flies.
Speaker 1He out there working All types of Smelling like I signed, and no doubt he had made the other guys take their bath and dress up real nice Right Got haircuts. Standing up there, real tall and strong.
Speaker 2What I've learned in this ministry that's really helped me see this is that your platform is not for you.
Speaker 1It's not for you.
Speaker 2So like, in other words, like your throne is not for you, it's not for you. So I think we get fired or dethroned from a position that God gives us when we start basically abusing that position. Like you are literally being abusive with the anointing that God has given you because it's not. It was never meant for you. It was always meant to reach out, have an effect on change. Other people Come alongside others.
Speaker 1It was never necessarily meant for anyone in the first place and if we think about that, that's the definition of a king.
Speaker 3Yeah, or a leader in general, yeah, to take care of the kingdom.
Speaker 1It's not necessarily the kingdom for the king, it's the king for the kingdom.
Speaker 3Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1And let's switch the words out, then, rather than us being fired, what keeps us from forfeiting our position?
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah, I want to make it, I want to finish.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2I don't want to have to forfeit.
Speaker 1I don't want to forfeit.
Speaker 2I don't want to. Or going back to I don't want to be. I want to be able to finish.
Speaker 1Because I feel like if you talk to athletes, they would rather lose the game after putting in the effort than forfeiting, yeah.
Speaker 2Oh, 10,000%. Yeah, Right, yeah, then just you know what? Let me take my L Right, let me give it a shot, right, right.
Speaker 3Let me do the work rather than forfeit.
Speaker 1That's why, even when people know that they're not the first at the race, when you hear athletes say it's just important to them to finish it, to just go ahead, you know, cross the line whether they're the last or the first right.
Speaker 2So so the seat is like a serving seat. Then I'm in. I'm in the seat because I'm called to serve, to serve. So I'm called to serve. But the question is, who are you serving?
Speaker 3are you serving?
Speaker 2you or are you serving the people that god has assigned you? To and I think that's where.
Speaker 1How are you serving God?
Speaker 2You're right, and that's when we come out underneath that we remove ourselves from the seat. Because there's another thing that I was thinking about too the word says that we're seated. He's seated us with him.
Speaker 1He's seated with him. He's seated us with him.
Speaker 2So now that we understand that understanding, he's already told you to sit down. Why standing? He's already. He's already told you to sit down. Why would you?
Speaker 1stand up. Why would you stand up? Why would you stand?
Speaker 2up. He's already seated as him, because why, so? Why are you gonna stand up?
Speaker 1imagine standing up from a table that's already beautifully laid out for him jesus you're just gonna forfeit everything my god why would you stand?
Speaker 2up. Why would you stand up? Why would you stand up? No, stay, stay seated, stay seated. We stay in the seat by keeping God truly at the center of our hearts, pursuing him with the right intentions, with the, with the sincere and, yes, we're going to make mistakes along the way. That's, that's inevitable. But you can't allow a mistake to become a state.
Speaker 1And you don't. Yeah mistake to become a state and you don't, yeah, you don't.
Speaker 2Let it be a state, don't allow a mistake, because I think some of y'all just missed that. Yes, repeat it, don't don't allow a mistake to become a state to be a state.
Speaker 1Don't make it a habitation right.
Speaker 2Oh, I love that word don't, don't live in that thing. Don't make it a habitation. Repent, do just like david did do it just like he did take accountability, turn quickly, repent and actually and I love that word about training Do just like David did, do it just like he did Take accountability, turn quickly, repent and actually and I love that word about turning and we took some time with the Christianists and didn't really talk about the turning- Because, you can't say that you've repented and you haven't yet turned, so don't say I'm sorry and then like not put anything in place Right To actually like what are you doing to actually change your?
Speaker 2thinking about that thing that you just participated in. So maybe for somebody, I don't know, maybe it's smoking. Okay, you repented 20 million times and the reason why you're keep and I'm speaking because this was me I got upset, don't you smoke.
Speaker 1No, no, no, no, not smoking I've been saying that I can't see you as a smoker. No, no. I've smoked before, but it wasn't like a thing for me, that was not me, no, that's just funny Like seeing you guys just you know, in this, seeing you as the elder.
Speaker 2You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1No, it's hard for me to see certain people.
Speaker 2You know outside of who they are.
Speaker 4now I'm trying to see you passively in the club?
Speaker 2I don't see that, no, but the heart of what I'm trying to say is the same Like we keep falling into these repetitive cycles where it's like I can't change and like I try and I'll do good for like a month and then I'll go right back.
Speaker 1Well, my one question is like how did you change your thinking about that thing? How did you change your?
Speaker 2thinking about that, because your actions won't change or your actions won't turn until your mind turns.
Speaker 1You won't completely stay consistent until you change your mind about it Until you change your mind. That's like knowing if I'm drinking out of a certain bottle of water.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 1And I know that that bottle is infested with mono. Why would I keep drinking? Why would you keep drinking If it's infested with flu? Somebody drunk out of there that had the flu why?
Speaker 2would I keep drinking, man? Why would you keep drinking?
Speaker 1Even though I understand water as being a life source and a necessity, but not that can. Not the tainted can yeah.
Speaker 2I had to change my mind about a lot of stuff this year. More naturally for my body, because I'm in faith for some things. So I need my life to align with what I want to see. The pastor teaches us that, like, in order to see what we want to see, we've got to make the adjustments, the accommodations. So there's going to be some things you're going to need to change.
Speaker 2So I needed to change some of my eating and I let praise be to God. It's April and I decided at the top of the year I decided this personally that I was going to stop drinking coffee and soda. But then I knew from god that I he told me that I needed to let um, like dairy, um, uh, some beef like that, like he told me some specific things I need to let go, but in order for me to change, I'll just take the soda thing for an example.
Speaker 2And it's April, that's what I was about to say. It's April and I still have not yet Four months.
Speaker 1I'm proud of you.
Speaker 2Praise God yeah yeah, yeah, we're covering Coke, Coca-Cola addict man. There's just certain foods where it's just like man a burger, I just really I want to. I've associated and it's bad, but I've associated certain drinks with certain food, and so I was never one to just go up to the fridge. No, that's real, and just crack it open, and that was never me. But, like with certain foods, I want to Coke.
Speaker 2But I decided I was going to let that go, because I want my life to be in alignment with what I want to see.
Speaker 1Right, absolutely.
Speaker 2All that to say, I needed to go and do research, like and educate myself like, literally, about the death, the date, like the date like what is actually in coke, and that has literally helped shift now how I see it. So we're sitting at the restaurant yesterday and, kennedy, she got a dr pepper but it was in a coke you know glass or whatever and the cup looked good and you know the the bubbles were fizzing and I was was sweating, just right there you know that it's very cold right right and I was able to look at that and say, you know, I, I don't want a coke or whatever, but my mind has shifted.
Speaker 1How I see it?
Speaker 2so now the, the struggle or the temptation is totally different yeah it's totally different absolutely where before, like in the last year when I was going through, well, pick it up and drink it, you know, and I don't put it down for a month, I'm picking it up and drinking it and then put it down. I was like trying to let it go or whatever.
Speaker 2It wasn't sustainable and it didn't like the light bulb, didn't or the switch didn't flip because I yet haven't changed my mind on how I was just trying to do it, just to do it, but not understanding, like no, I needed to actually change my mind. And once I did that, oh it was. It was actually easy, easy. And kyra, she's like you good, like you, you, you like you haven't, and she can go in the car, she'll drink her coffees or whatever, and it's like it's not wow, because the one thing about a right way.
Speaker 2Member coffee uh-huh, then we're gonna have a coffee. We gonna have a coffee.
Speaker 1I'm in awe of that, uh-huh, uh-huh. Now look the Lord and the doctor took me off caffeine right.
Speaker 3Uh-huh.
Speaker 1And so I did really well for like I would say, like a year and a half. Yeah, because I did used to love Coke and Because I used to love Coke, and I was a person that just I didn't have to have anything Go to the fridge and yeah, easy. But I mean, I love water just as much.
Speaker 2But Coke it was. I'm trying to develop this relationship with water. Y'all can't see it, but I got to water my hand. I love water, especially when it's cold. He does.
Speaker 1He just took a sip Praise.
Speaker 4God.
Speaker 1And I love chocolate.
Speaker 4Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1Love tea, mm-hmm. Love Coke.
Speaker 4Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1And just finding out the things that caffeine well, caffeine's in yeah, and I did really good yeah For a long time, like a year and a half.
Speaker 3Wow.
Speaker 1And then I think I messed around and ate some M&M's Ah, and it was the kind with the caramel in it coming in the purple pack and I felt terrible, like physically terrible, and at first it didn't register why.
Speaker 4I was like oh my god, what's going on?
Speaker 1and then it clicked in my mind I just ate chocolate. Chocolate has caffeine, and maybe when that thing came over me.
Speaker 2I was like ooh.
Speaker 1Oh my.
Speaker 4God no wonder yeah.
Speaker 1And so, even in that, that was something I didn't have to experience. And then, like last week, I'm going to be honest.
Speaker 2Come on, we here, since we're being transparent. We're being transparent, my God today, mighty God.
Speaker 1I had. I had. What is it? It was a Twix and something else, because I used to. I'm going to tell you what I used to love too Twix, kit Kats and whatchamacallits.
Speaker 4Okay.
Speaker 1I'm not even a.
Speaker 2Kit Kats M&M fiend. Yeah, kit Kats, you said Twix, kit Kats. Twix Kit Kats Twix they dangerous, they dangerous, they dangerous.
Speaker 1They very dangerous.
Speaker 2They dangerous.
Speaker 1Twix, Kit Kats and whatchamacallits. Uh-huh, that was my thing.
Speaker 4And.
Speaker 1I ate one, and immediately it was over. And then again for whatever reason it didn't dawn on me. I was like, hmm, I felt that feeling again. I was like this again. I was like Jesus, the chocolate it had eased itself into my mouth.
Speaker 2It just popped.
Speaker 1It took itself out of the wrapper and everything. Now I'm lying, I'm joking y'all. But again I said Lord, okay, Mm-hmm, See what you're saying, Right, Right. But you know I shouldn't have done that.
Speaker 2I shouldn't have did it. It's that same kind of if we could take this same thing, and you know we're talking about food and sodas and stuff. That might be very real to somebody, so I'm not trying to necessarily minimize it. Because that might be somebody's thing. Absolutely, but if we can just take that thing and apply it to whatever area you're struggling with like come back and see me.
Speaker 2If that don't you know what I'm saying, dm me on Instagram after at least and I heard somebody else say this too when's the last time we've tried to commit to something for at least 90 days? At least 90 days. Try to go at least 90 days of action and do it with holy spirit, like with his leading and with his power, because he gives us power and strength. Try to do it consistently for 90 days and then try to like when's the last time you did something for 90 days?
Speaker 1for 90 days.
Speaker 2The right like, actually the right way like. So maybe we just commit ourselves to like litter and just if it don't just read hit me up because I'm telling you.
Speaker 1And then I was so disappointed in myself because I had I'm telling you, I did good cold turkey like a year and a half yeah and I don't even know what happened. Then I picked up those m&ms. I don't even know.
Speaker 4I think I just wasn't thinking yeah, yeah, or I don't know. I don't know what happened, but think I just wasn't thinking yeah, yeah, or I don't know.
Speaker 1I don't know what happened. But it sure, I felt the difference. Yeah, I felt the difference. So now I don't do coffee and I did have like a cup of coffee one time and I felt the den too, and it was like this much and I was like oh yeah, I forgot yeah.
Speaker 2And he was like about this much? And I was like oh yeah, I forgot, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1But I do decaf now. Okay, come on, I do decaf.
Speaker 2And I still don't have a whole lot of it. She was like you want to try like a? I forgot one of the drinks, that's not coffee or whatever. I was like no, I don't even want to play with.
Speaker 1Yes.
Speaker 3I'm not even cool. I'm just no, I'm good, I got my water, I got my orange juice.
Speaker 2I forced myself to like orange juice and I love orange juice.
Speaker 1You didn't like orange juice, mm-mm. So what were you just was a soda baby.
Speaker 2Well, I would drink soda, I would drink milk, like in the morning, like, for breakfast stuff. I'd drink milk. I would like. That was pretty much like and water and like the and like the milk was like the dairy thing was. I was getting headaches and so I went to the allergy doctor and, which was crazy holy spirit had bit this. Is this the power of holy spirit? He had already told me beforehand hey, it was the dairy.
Speaker 2Cut this, stop eating this, stop eating this. But going back to art, I chose, I was soft, I wasn't following that, yeah, and I was getting headaches and I was trying to figure out, like, where is this? Because they're really weird headaches. I was getting them behind my eyes.
Speaker 2They would start behind my eyes, sometimes they start behind my ears and if left like unintended like if I didn't take Advil, if I didn't go take a shower and run water over my head, or if I didn't go take a nap, it would blow up into like a whole migraine bad migraine like bad like I didn't go home from work bad and it was starting to interfere with my, my day like for real and and this was like every day, like I would wake up and and so, uh, I was like let me go to the, because with the headache came congestion.
Speaker 2So I was like maybe I got like a little lingering sinus thing. So I went to the uh allergy doctor that well, she's like, well, I don't know if it's a lingering thing or if I don't know, you might have allergies. I was like allergies.
Speaker 1I don't have allergies, you don't have allergies, I got seasonal stuff like the pollen and stuff, but like food Nah.
Speaker 2She was like, well, let's do a test and then we'll be able to rule out what it is. And so I did the test and like they got like different categories, like you to this or you're like allergic to this yeah and all the things that I was allergic to on the food side was all the things that holy spirit was telling me to let go.
Speaker 4So it like I wasn't even like shocked when I saw the results I was honestly more like mad at myself because I'm like okay, if I need like any type of more you know confirmation.
Speaker 2And so she was like, yeah, that's literally what's contributing to it. And then, from that point forward, I was able to track it because, me being me, I'm like, okay, let's really like ride this thing out like I need any more evidence let's really like. So I for the next week. I literally had milk and then I headache had cheese headache had, beef headache had, um, uh, rice. Rice was another one, like, like the starch. I used to love the rice pilaf that came in that little red box. Oh yeah, ooh.
Speaker 4I would throw it Rice pilaf Yellow rice.
Speaker 2Sour cream Headache, cream cheese Headache. So now it's like I can. All the good things I can't even have like the littlest, tiniest, and so she's like you can come in and do allergy tests or like every week and pay $50 for the next two years a week.
Speaker 1I was like, or I could just stop, follow Holy.
Speaker 2Spirit going back to our conversation, because he already told me Because he already told me, so I didn't even have to go through. Really back to our conversation I didn't have to go through the last three, four months of headaches and having to go home and racking my brain about what If. I had just followed him from the beginning, up in that money, up in that money had. I just followed him from the beginning.
Speaker 1As you just followed him.
Speaker 2So now all of that's out of my diet, I can have like brown rice. I go to Chipotle. I can still thank the Lord I don't get a headache from that. And yeah, that's pretty much it.
Speaker 1I don't have nothing that relates to Derry man, because I'm following Holy Spirit's direction, because he be trying to save us, uh-huh.
Speaker 2He be trying.
Speaker 1He be trying to save us. Are you listening?
Speaker 3Are you listening?
Speaker 1Yeah, Are you listening and then are you doing? Yeah, because what the scriptures? Say not just hearers but, doers.
Speaker 3Doers of the word.
Speaker 2Yeah, yep, can't be father of Jesus and halfway follow him. It's a full follow. Drop your nets Drop it and come and follow me.
Speaker 1And this is not to discourage those who are on a journey. Yeah, but y'all know, you know.
Speaker 3Right, you need to just go ahead and stop.
Speaker 1Yeah, you already know.
Speaker 2Right, you need to just go ahead and stop.
Speaker 1Yeah, you already know I'm speaking of cold turkey. Yeah, cold turkey. Ministry on your life. Just done with it, take the taste right out of them mouth, jesus.
Final Thoughts & Closing
Speaker 1Yeah, I was looking at this lady's testimony the other day I think it was TikTok and she was saying you know she was a woman of the street because she had been dealt that hand. And she was saying how when she got saved, the Lord instantly took all of the things that she was battling with you know drugs and all that stuff, instantly took it out of her mouth, from her. You know tent to taste right away from her. And I've seen quite a few people like that and I think that's a beautiful testimony. I was thinking about Mase the rapper, mase the other day.
Speaker 1He was talking about his testimony when he really, you know, heard the voice of God in the middle of an act. Oh, wow, and he was like I can't do this. Oh, wow, yeah, he was like the girl was was mad, or whatever I was like about an interruption, yeah, yeah a super interruption.
Speaker 4Yeah, yeah, wow it's, it's amazing.
Speaker 1No doubt he had been speaking to him before then, but he just got to the point where one of the this is going to be encouraging for somebody.
Speaker 2I think one of them and I'm walking through some things, some real things, with some real people right now, and it's all around the same things trying to put to death some stuff. And I tell every single one of them I think one of the most powerful prayers that we can pray as it relates to this I'm trying to get over this is asking holy spirit to take that appetite away like just ask him, just ask and you'd be. You'd be surprised a lot.
Speaker 2Of this stuff is a lot easier than than we, and we're trying to do it without and I think that's what the heart of what I, what I try to say and try to communicate.
Speaker 2We can't do these changes without the partnering of holy spirit because it's going to be him that gives you the strength and he's going to be able to replace that negative, bad, sinful appetite absolutely with what we talked about the very top of the conversation being able to taste and see, taste and see. That is something that's a promise that you can stand. That's a promise. So if you not just put him back in remembrance of his right, okay, right, okay, lord, you said that what you have for me is better.
Speaker 1It's better. Yeah, that's even going back to the scripture. Delighting yourself in him, he'll give you the desires of your heart, of your heart yeah. That's appetite also Right. He'll change you to what it should be Right and like you say, remind him. Right, I'm doing it. Yeah, he tells us to remind him of his word. And again, there's so many ways to see that also.
Speaker 1Yeah, um, and we tend to be a bit more bolder and we feel like we're reminding somebody, that's what they say so we, you know, we go in a little bit stronger that way, yeah because the reminder, the remandering is not necessarily for him, it's for you, it's your encouraging yourself. You know what he said Sure did. He says for us again, being a father to his babies, to his chitlins, is what I call my children sometimes Chitlins. Yeah, but I have enjoyed, as always.
Speaker 4I told you we were going to run it back.
Speaker 2You didn't say it, you said that.
Speaker 1Now I do want you to run those six points back again for me. Just list it for me.
Speaker 2What is he talking about? Being Christianist? I'm going to give you the definition Because I don't want to leave you out there. This is what the definition of Christianist I made'm going to give you the definition. Yes, because I don't want to leave you out there. This is what the definition of Christianist that I made. Holy Spirit gave me to communicate. Christian is someone who identifies as Christian but neglects the full call of being a Christ follower. A person who calls on Jesus but doesn't fully follow Jesus. Someone who practices church but disregards its principles. Someone who cherry picks his word based on convenience and feeling. A person who is in a polyamorous relationship with the beliefs of God and the patterns of this world.
Speaker 1You didn't have to take it out, did you Polyamorous? Because that's exactly what it is.
Speaker 2And the six C's of Christian is compromise obedience.
Speaker 1Actually, let me because I want to give you all the scriptures too.
Speaker 2That's why I was me, because I want to give you all the scriptures too compromise obedience. First, samuel 15, 8. Uh is where that uh point comes from. He captured agad the amalekite king, but completely destroyed everyone else. Number one compromise obedience, uh. Number two first, samuel 15, 9, solemn. His men spared agad's life and kept the best of the sheep, goats and cattle, the fat of the calves, the lam, everything in fact that appealed to them.
Speaker 2There it is. They destroyed only what was worthless and of poor quality. Number two copying culture. Number three 1 Samuel 15, 13. It just follows this whole passage. When Samuel finally found him, saul greeted him cheerfully. May the Lord bless you, he said.
Speaker 2I have carried out the Lord. Number three counterfeit spirituality, counterfeit you, lying. Number four 1 Samuel 15, 15. It's true that the army spared the best of the sheep, goats and cattle, saul admitted. But they are going to sacrifice them to the Lord, your God. We have destroyed everything else. Number four crafty excuses. Number five 1 Samuel 15, 19 through 21. But I did obey the Lord, saul insisted. I carried out the mission he gave me. I brought back the king, but I destroyed everyone else. Then my troops brought in the best of the sheep, goats, cattle and plunder to sacrifice the Lord, your God. And Gilgag, why haven't you obeyed the Lord? Why did you rush for the plunder and do what was evil in the Lord's sight, samuel?
Speaker 1asked Rush forward.
Speaker 2Number five condoning sin. In the last one, verse 30. Then Samuel pleaded again. I know I have sinned, but please at least honor me before the elders of my people and before Israel by coming back with me so that they may worship your God. Number six casual repentance.
Speaker 1Casual.
Speaker 2Yeah, don't make accommodations for what you should be killing.
Speaker 1You ain't never telling them to go sleep in the guest room when you shouldn't even let it in the house. You shouldn't let it in the house Now. You can't get it out, right?
Speaker 2And the message is over on YouTube on RightWay. If you go to RightWayCCC you can find that message there. It's called Christianist.
Speaker 2It's over on our. You can watch a full night. Actually it was powerful People. I encouraged everybody at the end that we had cards and maybe somebody who's listening to this maybe needs to do the same. You just need to have a time of Holy Spirit and you write down on a card or in your journal or on a piece of paper or napkin. Write down all the things and you know what they are. Write down all the things that you're making room for in your life that you actually should be serving an eviction notice to.
Speaker 2So, whether that be lust, whether that be unforgiveness, maybe it's a person, I don't know what it is Write that down, and then what I want you to do is I want you to tear it up. Tear it up, and that is what our pastor teaches a prophetic gesture. That like we're killing today tonight in the car, the thing that you know that we should be, we should be laying down.
Speaker 1And it could be something as simple as insecurities. Yeah, yeah, it could be. It could be coke, it could be anything, it could be hello, it could be milk, it could be a. Tv show yeah, music, yeah, whatever it is Get rid of it, get rid of it, get rid of it.
Speaker 2You already know Stop keeping what you should be killing you already know.
Speaker 1Look, I saw this meme the other day and it was, like it said, black folks, but all folks be praying over pork and pray to God to bless it when it's a sin to you because you shouldn't be eating it if it makes you sick, just like you were saying whatever Holy Spirit told you to stop eating.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 1Simple as that. Yeah, the doctor told me to stop eating jalapenos.
Speaker 2Hey, I can't have a taco bar without jalapenos. Oh God, baby Jalapenos.
Speaker 1When I say I had to resist Yep, and this was like a few weeks ago, because I had gotten to this spell where I just want jalapeno on everything.
Speaker 2And my body was like no you don't, no, you don't, girl, please, you're keeping what's killing you.
Speaker 1So I just look at them. Now I don't put him on my plate, but you guys, so many delicious points.
Speaker 2We kind of all over the map, but I hope it made sense.
Speaker 1I hope it made sense too, I feel like it did.
Speaker 2I just feel like we touched yeah.
Speaker 1We're just chilling, just chilling, touching everything. Don't forfeit, don't forfeit.
Speaker 2Just do what's said. Yep, just do. Forfeit, just do what's said.
Speaker 1Just do what he said.
Speaker 2Just do what he said.
Speaker 1That's it, but we definitely gonna.
Speaker 2Yeah, next time we come we gotta bring Cara now. Please do Cara. I know you're listening, Please do.
Speaker 1You next. I want to get her on. I want to pass him too.
Speaker 2I was gonna say you should do like her passing him.
Speaker 1I want to do her pastime too. I was going to say you should do like her pastime, I want to do her pastime. And Roz, yeah, and Roz yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2Roz came on with me if Roz come here and get on, please let me just sit outside. She came on with me, oh she did when we did worship 101?
Speaker 1oh, I need to. I need to say about two seasons ago.
Speaker 2Oh no, yeah, please send me that so.
Speaker 3I told her I want to do a 102 with her.
Speaker 2Yeah, I need to see that. All three of them, that's going to be a I'm going to tell Pastor to bring her
Speaker 1her black towel with her. When she had that black towel on her hand. I know she mean business.
Speaker 2I want to, and I might be releasing the cat out the bag a little too early.
Speaker 1Come on man.
Speaker 2But this year I really want to do like and Tyler, actually he's been helping, he's the one that kind of affirmed what I've been feeling in my spirit. I want to do like, not an unplug, but like. I really want to do a stripped back worship encounter night Like, where it's's like maybe we could do it at the church, but no, like I'm grateful for our production team. We're over the production team so hear me.
Speaker 3Lights and screens and all that, but with all that.
Speaker 4Strip down, just give me some bistro lights or something I can see people sitting on the floor. Yeah, get the chairs out the way and maybe even strip back the like the tracks and everything.
Speaker 2Let's just have like yeah not all you know, even stripped I'm a drummer strip back the drums a little bit. Let's just have like just a just a strip back, because I think when we do that, like we really I'm not trying to make it too deep, but we get really to the heart of worship. You do a lot of times and I'm over it we can fall, you know, we fall into the trap of lights cameras and you know, and all that lyrics, and you know if, if the transition was just right no, let's just.
Speaker 2Let's just get a keyboard a guitar, a bass and a little drum set and let's just get some voices and let's just worship him we can even just do voices yeah, we can't. We definitely can't just do yeah, yeah and just have and watch what is it through?
Speaker 1And claps feet, stumps Right and watch God come through All of the above.
Speaker 2And watch him come through.
Speaker 1Absolutely yeah, but.
Speaker 2I really want to do that with Kyra, with Roz, with the team.
Speaker 1I'm ready Whenever they ready. I just want to be in the presence. We going to set it up. I just the people say Yep, yep. But we're going to let you guys go. I hope you got so many things out of this. I'm definitely going to go back and listen.
Speaker 2Oh for sure, and see what I need to get out. So, yes, I'm going to let y'all, let me go Absolutely. Right Listen he done traveled in the rain and the wind Right, I had to pull up for this.
Speaker 1So thank you, for I'm thankful for you and your yes, and your really, really being obedient to God. I can see it. Yeah, I appreciate it. You only elevate when you obey him. Yeah, you only elevate. Yeah, only there's no other way to go. Nope, but you guys, I hope that you have gotten everything you need out of this. Please listen, re-listen all of the above. Share with your family and your friends, especially your enemies. It's Bible. Should you still really have enemies back now?
Speaker 2just post it on your story they'll all see it.
Speaker 4Just share with everybody.
Speaker 1Just share but we'll see you guys next time. See you next time.