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Somethin' Like Sunday School
King Dethroned
Are you holding onto things God has told you to eliminate? In this thought-provoking episode, Purpose Williams and "The Elder" dive deep into the dangers of compromised obedience through the compelling biblical contrast between Kings Saul and David.
What made David "a man after God's own heart" while Saul was rejected as king? Despite David's notorious failures, his heart remained centered on God, while Saul's heart was ultimately centered on himself. When confronted with their sins, David immediately turned to God in genuine repentance, while Saul offered excuses and prioritized saving face.
The conversation introduces the "Six C's of Christian-ish" – Compromised Obedience, Copying Culture, Counterfeit Spirituality, Crafty Excuses, Condoning Sin, and Casual Repentance – warning signs that we're becoming selective about which parts of our faith we'll embrace. As Purpose notes, "Selective obedience is still disobedience," a reality that cost Saul everything.
We explore how positions from God are given as gifts of grace rather than earned achievements. When we fail to steward these positions well, we essentially dethrone ourselves. The speakers share personal stories of learning to surrender harmful appetites – from coffee and soda to destructive relationships – illustrating how often what "tastes good" to us is actually causing damage.
This episode offers a powerful challenge: stop keeping what you should be killing. Whether it's unhealthy attachments, sinful habits, or simply areas where God has called you to surrender, true discipleship requires complete obedience, not just the parts that feel comfortable.
Take a moment today to ask yourself: What am I holding onto that God has asked me to release? Your throne may depend on your answer. Subscribe now and join us next week as we continue exploring what it truly means to follow Christ wholeheartedly.
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what's up everybody and welcome back to your favorite podcast, something like sunday school. I am purpose williams and today I am beyond excited about this to have the elder back in the room.
Speaker 2:Not the elder I thought we talked about this the young elder.
Speaker 1:Listen, he's been elevated. Amen. Praise God, this man has been acting up in the name of the Lord in the name of the living God, I'm excited for you to receive through him on today when the keys at.
Speaker 4:Look, I got my tambourine Over there.
Speaker 1:It's over there guys.
Speaker 2:I need a favor he listening, I need him to Back you up, right.
Speaker 1:Look, look, what's Don't? Preachers have a favorite key.
Speaker 2:Uh huh, then they want to be. Put me in the the key, hey, hey.
Speaker 1:Give it to him. I wish he was here. He'd give him a quarter To for real Right. Today, I know the last time you were here With us, we got into the story Of King Saul.
Speaker 2:We did.
Speaker 1:And what a. We unpacked that, yes, yes, what a, what a, what an encounter that was. Now we're gonna be going A little bit Further.
Speaker 4:Come on and bringing it home A that was Now.
Speaker 1:We're going to be going a little bit further. Come on, and bringing it home a little bit more also, yeah for sure.
Speaker 2:This account is just crazy. It is very crazy. I had someone tell me because I've had a few speaking opportunities as of late and it's never an intentional thing, but I've always, for the last couple of messages, I've been parking. It's like since that conversation I haven't been able to move. My God and it dawned on me because after we just got done with this last service we just did for our young adults, which we'll talk about, because a lot of this conversation, ironically, uncoincidentally, if that's a word- Uncoincidentally, not by chance, yeah.
Speaker 2:We just got done talking about this with the young adults at the church. But, yeah, after the event, one of the guys came up to me. He was like man, you know, you just spoke this for this, you just spoke for that, you spoke for this too. And like you were pulling, Like you parked in David's story, and I was like, oh, I really have, I haven't even read it because again it's not intentional.
Speaker 2:I just think that there's so much in there. You can spend a lifetime there and still be pulling all types of stuff.
Speaker 1:Look, tea is the truth of the word of God. You can spend a lifetime in Genesis 1 and 1. Easy, easy Easy. That's the deliciousness, though, and that's how you know, the word is living. I'm just about to say, uh, it's living, it's living, it's not. It's like I'll be telling my students, um, they'll be asking so many questions, or whatever, when we read the directions I said, baby, do you think that the words are on the paper for decorations?
Speaker 3:right so the scripture.
Speaker 1:The scripture is not on the page for decorations. Yeah, man, it's just absolutely delicious, but we're gonna get right into it. We're coming out of, we back in. Uh, first samuel yeah first samuel 15, uh, when uh saw uh sweet saw, saw my man, saul help him so many. You know what this, this, it reminds me. You know so many, so many people in the Bible. I mean the children of Israel, the young prophet, who God gave the instructions to, and he did the opposite thing listening to another voice who he felt like followed God.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:But you know, none of these things trump what God says directly to you what he says directly to you the instructions.
Speaker 2:Follow the instructions. Follow them. Follow them you will.
Speaker 1:I mean, there's so much peace in following what.
Speaker 2:God says so much.
Speaker 1:So much peace in it following what god says. So much, so much peace in it. So much you know it's just the worry component is not there and you know you may even have situations that arise or whatever, but the the scripture is still clear right there, remaining the rest to the people of God. The rest is still there. Let's go to King Saul and what he had going on and what caused him to be rejected. You want to read?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm reading on the NLT, nlt, is that all right?
Speaker 1:You'd be proud of me because I read NLT last night.
Speaker 2:Come on.
Speaker 1:And I never read the NLT ever.
Speaker 2:NLT is for me.
Speaker 4:KJV is mine.
Speaker 2:KJV is not for me. Kjv it's the THs and the dals. I know it's poetic, you know what I'm saying and it's like, but it's just.
Speaker 1:And they're delicious because they have meaning. You know those THs have meaning.
Speaker 2:I just I got to think real hard. I mean, you should think when you read the Bible, but like I don't need like an extra layer of having to think and you know what.
Speaker 1:Like I was telling, I told, I know I told Harry one time, but just in general, like, okay, when we were at Easter last year when we came to you guys' house and we were reading scriptures and I was going to try to read, I don't know if it was NLT, it had to be NLT. And I was like, no, that's so confusing to me, so it's backwards, it throws me off and it just be like I don't know. Let me not throw you off, then no no no, because you here.
Speaker 1:so you know, and I'm reading alongside of you Now.
Speaker 2:I can meet you in the middle. I can meet you in the middle with Amplify. I like Amplify. No, let's go. Nlt, okay, nlt.
Speaker 2:Because I feel like Holy Spirit told me to read NLT last night for a reason Am I reading both of of passage we're looking at is 1 Samuel 15, 10 through 11 in the NLT it reads Then the Lord said to Samuel I am sorry that I ever made Saul king, for he has not been loyal to me and has refused to obey my command. Samuel was so deeply moved when he heard this that he cried out to the Lord. All night that man was weeping, all night he was grieved no sleep that was his boy now he's waking up in the morning even more stressed.
Speaker 1:But you know what? I could see that and that's why I say I always uh, what I love about the word. It gives the honest reaction of people. In the bible it wasn't like sammy was delighted because he was he wasn't he was mad and I would imagine him, you know, feeling a way about Saul because he's been working with him closely, that's his.
Speaker 4:What is it Mentee, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:So you know, and if you're real about working with people, then you do get an attachment to them.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:That man cried out all night, all night.
Speaker 2:I ain't no Richie, Wow. Okay, our second little piece we're looking at is 1 Samuel 15, 23. Jumping down the same passage of Scripture just a little further down, I just want to pause here. I encourage everybody go read the whole entire. And in fact at the Christianist night which I talked to you about which that? Was what the event was called. It was called Christianist for the Young Adult. So, we talked and unpacked this whole culture, Christianity being halfway in.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it was yeah.
Speaker 2:And I, literally I was going to try to skip around the passage, but Holy Spirit was like no. I need to, and I read the literally pretty much the whole entire chapter, from verses one all the way down to like 29, 30.
Speaker 1:Now have your way if that's what you want to do right here. That's cool, it's cool.
Speaker 2:We can hop around.
Speaker 1:Let's do it because I like to read Later when we jump down.
Speaker 2:I got some more points. I pulled for more.
Speaker 1:Come on with it.
Speaker 2:Our next focus is 1 Samuel, 15, 23,. Just a little further down, rebellion is as sinful as witchcraft and stubbornness as bad as worshiping idols.
Speaker 1:Idols.
Speaker 2:So because you have rejected the command of the Lord, he has rejected you as king.
Speaker 1:That's a strong super strong.
Speaker 2:That's a strong consequence you calling me a witch, a witch.
Speaker 1:And now I'm taking part in idolatry.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:Am, I am, I totally against God Right?
Speaker 2:Am I Jesus? Am I Jesus? And so what? What I see here cause I know we got some questions, but what I see immediately from this passage of Scripture is what I'm calling compromised obedience, because that's exactly what he did. Compromised obedience.
Speaker 1:And you know what he felt like that was good enough Right, so much so that he lied to Samuel.
Speaker 2:Lied to that man.
Speaker 1:The Lord had instructed him to pretty much get rid of everything of the Amalekites.
Speaker 2:He was told, when you go and that's actually if you follow. I think that's in earlier passages, it's in Leviticus, deuteronomy, where the Lord literally says when you go into these lands and other people are occupying you're not supposed to destroy everything, don't take a single thing. So this is something that he been do, been do. And then, to follow it up, you know. Samuel then reminded him hey, when you go in there, don't touch nothing, don't touch nothing.
Speaker 1:You know what that reminds me of? Okay, like there's a movie for everything. There's a song for everything Right, because it comes out of here, whether it stays true to the text or it gets perverted. Aladdin, okay, you remember when they went down into that little cave thing?
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:And he was only supposed to get the lamp out of there.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And Abu got greedy and started touching everything.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, yeah, baby, they almost got swallowed up in the earth Swallowed up.
Speaker 2:Swallowed up Because he went up in there touching stuff he wasn't supposed to touch. Wow, Such is Saul. What's crazy is in. I don't have it actually highlighted, but it's in here in verse 15, or in the chapter 15, that it says that he kept what appealed to him, what appealed to him, which is insane. It's insane, but it got me thinking, like, how much stuff, like did God tell us not to interact with, but our appetites are leading us down bad roads?
Speaker 1:What did Scripture say? You were driven by your own, seduced by your own lust.
Speaker 2:Dragged away when you're enticed, you know what your appetites are, the things that you got to get in control.
Speaker 1:That's why he told us to taste and see that he is good, I'm just seeing that I'm just seeing that too. Oh, my God. That's why he said taste and see that I'm good. That's why he said taste and see that I'm good. I'm better than what you're trying to taste over there.
Speaker 2:I need to write that down.
Speaker 1:What the boy say. I was watching Living Single. I'm writing that down, look I'm. And it was this episode with Kyle. Kyle and Overton are best friends and roommates. Kyle brings home this girl that he was talking to right, and she tries to hit on Overton right. So Overton told Kyle and Kyle couldn't believe it because you know, he felt like he was just so much more debonair and so much more appealing than Overton, right. And so Kyle asked Overton, why would she want chicken tenders? When she can have filet mignon Right.
Speaker 2:And so look at us, the Lord is telling us I'm filet mignon, yeah, I'm filet mignon. And you out here trying chicken tenders. Right there, popcorn shrimp, you can eat chicken tenders, man come on, man come on. You know what's crazy is? I had this thought too, that the things that are more than likely 9 out of 10 times good for you are the things, 9 out of 10 times, that we don't enjoy eating.
Speaker 1:We don't enjoy eating.
Speaker 2:You know why we don't have an appetite for it because we're so used to the other stuff.
Speaker 1:This goes back to Paul, right, uh-huh? When Paul was telling him you know, don't be out here having sex without these women. Yep, because your body remembers it, it takes record of it. And now, when you get to what you should be, enjoying, you can't enjoy it and only know you said something and only know you can't enjoy it because you done had all these other things, all these other things and look something, and only know you can't enjoy it because you didn't have all these other things, all these other things and look, that's why, that's why my mom used to get mad when I was in the car and I was like I want mcdonald's and she's like, well, I made dinner.
Speaker 2:I said I don't want it, I don't want that, I want mcdonald's because taste and see the dinner was better the dinner was better than the mcdonald's. I don't want. No, I wanted the McDonald's.
Speaker 1:And look, that's good Going into making the meal. She's doing it with love Jesus. Has he not done this with love Jesus?
Speaker 3:my.
Speaker 1:God and telling us to taste and see.
Speaker 2:Yeah. But we want McDonald's, but we want McDonald's, and that McDonald's is killing you.
Speaker 1:And it's nasty, Like it's nasty.
Speaker 2:So the big takeaway that I pulled from this passage of Scripture is that Saul kept what he should have killed what he should have killed. He kept what he should have killed.
Speaker 1:And that's why we have to die daily.
Speaker 2:That's why we got to die daily and evaluate our lives. Are we keeping things around us that we should actually be killing? That we should be killing, because in order to follow Christ, in order to be a full follower of Christ, you got to be willing to leave some things, like when Jesus called out to his disciples when they're on the boat fishing, and he called out to them and he said come, follow me. Like drop your nets and pick up this other net over here and come follow me and you'll be fishers of men Like they had to leave something in order to follow him.
Speaker 1:See what I'm saying, absolutely.
Speaker 2:So you got to be willing to leave some stuff in order to be a full followers of Jesus, and I just don't think that in today, that's not a popular message.
Speaker 1:It's not a popular message, right? You know what they like to say when this is brought up. You judging me.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you judging. I feel like you judging me.
Speaker 1:You don't know about the love of Christ. This lets me know that y'all don't actually understand what love is.
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 1:In its full capacity.
Speaker 4:Love is correction also Right.
Speaker 1:Love is me telling you no Right.
Speaker 2:Somebody. You got to have somebody in your life that's able to say To check you. Yeah, hey Joe, I want to do that. Hey bro, why would you talk to? Why would you you know? Why aren't you being consistent in this area?
Speaker 1:Why.
Speaker 2:Why.
Speaker 1:Why would you post that? Why would?
Speaker 2:you post that you need to have some take it down friends.
Speaker 4:Take it down. I saw the story.
Speaker 2:Erase it, take it down. I saw you, little petty, go ahead and delete that comment, are you okay?
Speaker 1:Because what is this? But? We don't like that you okay, because what is this?
Speaker 2:But we don't like that. We don't like it. I need friends who are fruitful.
Speaker 3:That's how I like to say it.
Speaker 2:We need fruitful relationships in our lives, not fruitless friends. Fruitful friends can actually call me, they can check me, they can challenge me, they want the best for me. Absolutely. You can't say that you're actually loving me with the love of Christ and seeing that I'm going down a dark road that's going to lead to destruction, that's going to lead to me hurting myself, that's going to lead to me setting myself back and you not say something.
Speaker 1:And this is an important part of what you said loving me with the love of Christ and see me going down. And then this, too, it makes me think of the scripture too. The brother is born for adversity. Sometimes that adversity is a conversation that you and I have to have.
Speaker 4:Right.
Speaker 1:And I know what I'm going to say to you.
Speaker 4:Yeah, your flesh ain't going to like it, right.
Speaker 2:But your spirit's going to rejoice.
Speaker 4:But the spirit got to rejoice. Your spirit's like, yes yes, yes indeed.
Speaker 1:Tell him, tell him and your brother's like no, no, no, Tell her Right so sometimes we may you know, depending on to a degree you may be upset with me for a little while, Right, but that's okay.
Speaker 2:Because in the long run you're going to be very appreciative.
Speaker 1:I'm going to tell y'all my mom used to tell me hate me now love me later and. I used to hate it too, but you know, when you grow up and you see, and you know that what needs to happen, it is what it is, and you love me. You be like you know what, mama? Yeah.
Speaker 2:You was right. I was just thinking while you were speaking. I think one of the poorest statements to hear from a friend is something along the lines of man I was going to, oh, man, I, I, oh yeah. I felt that I meant to tell you yeah now I should have because that's after the fact. And now you walking in this drop that on you for a reason. What do?
Speaker 1:they call it in the natural. What is it when you be a part of the Part of the crime too? Not guilt by association. No when you hide in that person. What is it called? It's right on the tip of my tongue. Anyway, now you a part of it too, because of yeah, accessory.
Speaker 4:Thank you, praise God for Now. You're an accessory. Thank you, h&i. Praise God for it.
Speaker 1:Now you're an accessory to it because you had a part in it too To say no, jesus, don't do that.
Speaker 3:Jesus.
Speaker 1:And we see, even with Samuel loving his boy like he did, he had to tell him.
Speaker 2:Yeah, did he had to tell him. Yeah, I had to tell him what god said, right, what the lord? Yeah, come on th yeah.
Speaker 1:But going back to this disobedience thing.
Speaker 2:This is something that I thought about too. Selective obedience is still disobedience. So, like you can't just choose what parts of god like you want to follow, absolutely okay, I'm gonna follow you while you go to. You know these towns, jesus, but when you go over here, like nah I don't feel like yeah I'm gonna just no, it's a full follow.
Speaker 2:It's a full follow, so we can't just look to the word and just pick and choose, like what parts of the bible like we want to go with absolutely. Like, okay, I'm cool with you know the well, maybe I'm not. Uh, yeah, maybe i'm'm cool with the gossip thing. But this forgiveness thing I'm holding on.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm holding on, I'm holding on to it, but we try to reason with it too, to my forgiveness.
Speaker 2:Well, you don't know what they did, or you don't know what she did, or you know what oh and it keeps me safe. But the word literally says forgive, forgive.
Speaker 1:Quickly. So that's two things we disobeyed, we didn't forgive and we didn't do it correctly. And the thing about rules and everything. For the most part we think it's trying to keep us from doing something that we would enjoy, when really it's trying to keep us alive, it's not trying to kill us, because we now know, and science is catching up with some of the consequences that come with unforgiveness. You can get sick in your actual physical body.
Speaker 2:For real.
Speaker 1:Holding on to unforgiveness.
Speaker 4:For real.
Speaker 1:And thriving and swimming in greed. I'm not greedy, what's the word? There's another G word I'm looking for, and grudges and people be so proud.
Speaker 4:I hope grudges. Yeah, but I ain't never going to forget.
Speaker 1:Man, you not hurting them. Right, they don't care, right, they do not care. And be moving on with their life and living blessed, and you over here still holding them to something.
Speaker 2:To something Another thing like okay, yeah, I like this. You know this killing thing, because I'm not going to kill anybody, right? But this sex thing?
Speaker 4:oh yeah, that's my girlfriend.
Speaker 2:That's my boyfriend I'm about to get married to him. Yeah, so I'm not going to follow that part because I don't like that part.
Speaker 1:With your mercy gonna follow that part because I don't like that part.
Speaker 2:Oh my god, mercy we're. It's indication that a lot of times, we're being led more by our feelings our flesh too and our flesh and our feelings and flesh versus literally just being led by the word versus being worried about led by the word.
Speaker 1:I was just um thinking about romans 8. This is my one of my favorite chapters and he talks about that being led by the spirit or being led by the flesh, and we see that again with Saul right. Another reason he kept some of those things is because he was scared of what the people were going to say.
Speaker 3:Scared about what the people were going to say, and he was saying well, they kept this.
Speaker 1:And then look what he tried to say At least it's the best, the best cattle, the best, whatever, I don't care about that. We got rid of the other stuff, but we kept the best. Then he told him so we could offer it.
Speaker 2:Back as, like that was going to do God a favor.
Speaker 1:Man, how you offer something to God that he don't want.
Speaker 2:Doesn't make sense. Why?
Speaker 1:Why, If I ask you okay, what do you need?
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 1:And I tell you well, I need some tennis shoes size 10. Right, why would you bring me tennis shoes that are size 15? Make that, make sense. What can I do with?
Speaker 2:them Can't do nothing.
Speaker 1:That's not what I want. If I ask you for tennis shoes, why are you bringing me broccoli right? That's not what I and I don't care. It's the best broccoli I can't do that with that concern in my feet right when they need shoes my god that's not what I. That's what, not what I asked.
Speaker 2:That's not what I asked you know it's crazy, he, he cared more about what the people thought than what god thought than what god thought he Than what God thought. He killed more about the people than he did God.
Speaker 1:Not even taking into consideration the consequences of that, because he was thinking that, okay, well, I know he told me to get rid of this, but since it's the best, he ain't going to be tripping.
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 1:And what do we do we're listening to? And what do we do we're listening to? And what he did too? We be guilty of this too, sometimes, knowing what God told us, letting our friends convince us to do something else, to listen to something that God told us not to listen to go to a place where he didn't tell you not to.
Speaker 2:He told you to leave those people alone and you over there hanging out. He told you to leave those people alone, absolutely, and you over there hanging out with them and you hanging out with them.
Speaker 1:I know what was that? Not too long ago, there was a situation in New Orleans where a girl was told by her parents not to go somewhere.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:She went, got killed when that guy ran into the people with his vehicle. Really she got killed and so I don't. You know, we never know to what degree?
Speaker 2:What's on the other side of the obedience?
Speaker 1:We never know. We never know. We never know if it's something we can bounce back from, something that's going to take us out, something that's going to stay with us forever. Right, you know what I'm saying. We don't know what that is.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying, wow another thing that I see in this scripture, um which I'm trying to know. It's not I don't think it's in the passage that we um exactly looked at, but it says a little further down, I think, after verse 23 it says that God was sorry that he made him he was sorry but you know, it's crazy, when I look back into this just this account right here I don't see a spot where it says Saul said he was sorry.
Speaker 1:It didn't. He never said it, so how?
Speaker 2:is God more sorry for you than you are for you he never did apologize.
Speaker 1:How is he more sorry? And we saw where he didn't want Samuel to leave him.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:But he never was like.
Speaker 2:Like God, I did this against you.
Speaker 1:I sent this against you, Right? He never said yeah, I messed up.
Speaker 2:I had one of my messages that I spoke. I had six. I called it the six C's of Christian-ish.
Speaker 4:Come on.
Speaker 2:The six C's are compromise and obedience. Number two is copying culture. Number three is counterfeit spirituality. Number four is crafty excuses. Number five is condoning sin.
Speaker 1:Counterfeit spirituality.
Speaker 2:Number six is casual repentance. Casual repentance and that's exactly what he did, because it was never a full repentance.
Speaker 1:It was never a full repentance. It was like yeah.
Speaker 2:And then it's like Well, I feel, samuel, at least come back with me. Yeah, so I don't look like a clown, or a fool in front of these dudes. And it's like Yo you're missing the whole entire point the whole point. You're missing the whole entire point.
Speaker 1:You're missing the whole point. Isn't that something? Counterfeit spirituality and casual repentance, counterfeit spirituality.
Speaker 2:I'm jumping down Casual repentance.
Speaker 1:I told y'all he was on the. He's been elevated. I told y'all.
Speaker 2:Casual repentance or counterfeit spirituality. Rather, it's rooted out of 1 Samuel, 15, 13. It says, when Samuel finally found him, saul greeted him cheerfully. May the Lord bless you he said I'm crying out to the Lord's command. I've done the lord's command. First of all, you lying bro lying right away you lying, but then you try to come with, like this church jargon too, like he, like he don't know what you just did may the lord bless you.
Speaker 2:I said my boy was real cunning right there counterfeit spiritual is like when you're trying to project like this level of like spirituality you posting all these scriptures, you worshiping me, you shouting, you run around the building, but then you go out during the week and your life looks completely opposite of what you're just trying to project and it's like god. It's not like god sees that what you're trying to project and he just go with that no he, he sees around that.
Speaker 2:Actually he sees through that. He see that's a better way to put it.
Speaker 1:He sees in the heart. He sees right through it, yeah, right to your heart.
Speaker 2:He sees it isn't that what he said that they're. They're gonna worship me with their lips with their hearts come from spirituality that's not real
Speaker 1:from it, my lord that's not giving Pharisees who wanted to be seen doing all the things, and then you got the scripture right in your face, in the body, and you're going against everything he's saying.
Speaker 2:You're going against everything he's just talking about Because it's not in your heart. It's not.
Speaker 1:This is just a show is what they used to call it back in the day.
Speaker 2:A big old show. A big old show, just a puppet.
Speaker 1:In the name of Jesus.
Speaker 2:In the name.
Speaker 1:I feel like they was the first ones saying but Lord we did this in your name.
Speaker 2:I don't care about that, because your heart wasn't even there, your heart wasn't there. It was in it for you and not in it for the life To be seen.
Speaker 1:That's why you told them you want to be seen. You already got your reward. I don't have to reward you.
Speaker 2:I don't have to reward you, gotta reward you, yeah. So I was immediately. Some of the things I was able to pull going to your first question that you gave me, which was what was the major difference between king saul and king david?
Speaker 1:what was the major difference? And I had that question. Uh, I know it was a question that I had when I was younger.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and you know when I was younger, yeah, and you know when I was younger, just you know, physically, naturally younger, yeah, and younger than Christ, and I feel like this is a question that people have. I feel like this is a question that's been on hearts. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, and I know why I had that question. Because I felt like in my mind, in my natural finite mind, I felt like in my mind, in my natural finite mind, what was the difference between Saul and King David? Because we, as people, we measure sin. I felt like David was way more out of pocket than Saul was in my mind.
Speaker 1:But I know the difference now, but you know, back in the day, I was like man. Saul did that one thing Like you know like come on man. Like they was really out here wilding.
Speaker 2:Right right.
Speaker 3:Like wilding, wilding Right.
Speaker 1:So much so he couldn't even build a temple, so much so he had to curse his family. The Lord told him the sword would never leave his house. His children was killing each other.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:The brother Tripping Took the sister against her will. You know all the things that David had going on, but it was magnified.
Speaker 3:Wow. That's an episode right there and all of this bookmarked that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, what you doing yeah.
Speaker 1:But I feel like David was way more out of pocket than Saul. But he still gets the title of man after God's own heart.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I was thinking about that last night. I was kind of preparing and the thought that kind of hit me was that the difference was that Saul's heart was centered on Saul. While David's heart was centered on God. Yes, and you'll see, like even during and I have a couple of examples that David takes the census. Yes, that was a big mistake. Yes, it was, and then of course, David and Bathsheba. But you see in both spots that he turns straight to God.
Speaker 4:Immediately.
Speaker 2:Like in his one account, 2 Samuel, 24, 10, it says but after he had taken the census, David's conscience began to bother him that man got some. Yeah, he got. What it really was was conviction it was conviction began to bother him and he said to the lord I have sinned greatly by taking the senses. Please forgive my guilt, yes, lord, for doing this foolish yes indeed so that shows you exactly accountability exactly where his heart is right, but we go back up now.
Speaker 2:We just contrast this with Saul and it was excuse. It was well, I needed and I needed and I thought, and I was going to do this for you. It was all this other stuff and the people.
Speaker 1:it was giving Adam that woman Right.
Speaker 2:But with David it was just straight up. Lord, I did that. I did it. Please forgive me.
Speaker 1:I did that. I I did it, please forgive me.
Speaker 2:I did that, I'm a fool, I messed up, and so I think that's just a beautiful picture, I guess, if you will like, of the big contrast between. Why could a person who you know, just looking at it is ten times worse?
Speaker 1:in action like be labeled like a man after God's own heart, and he never loses that label Because he never stopped pursuing his heart. He never stopped pursuing it, even in messing up. It's definitely an account of what's the word I'm looking for. It reminds me when you go to Hosea and God tells Hosea to marry the woman of Hortum. And he's still faithful to this woman of Hortum.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:And definitely types and shadows of Jesus concerning us and how he feels about us, and that's another part that I saw with the account of David.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And, like you say, he very much took responsibility and accountability for what he had going on.
Speaker 2:He never blamed anybody else. Why do you think it's so hard for people Like what's the hard part about the accountability, do you think?
Speaker 1:It's just too much easier to blame anybody else. It's just an easy cop-out.
Speaker 2:It's just so easy. But, like Pastor Lillard said today, like some of this hurt, some of this stuff, that wasn't just you know them. It was you, it was you, it was you being 10 times easier for you to just say, yeah, that like I was disobedient the lord told me to leave that church, the lord told me to leave that relationship, but I just refused. I just refused.
Speaker 1:I wanted to stay and you know what I'm gonna say this now that we're here, a lot of that unforgiveness that we harbor, it's not even for those people, jesus, you know, it's for ourselves wow, but we don't want to, you don't want to say, we don't want to say that I'm, I'm get the honor of at the church, being part of uh freedom which freedom is.
Speaker 2:I encourage anybody. If you're church, I just ask your leaders at your church or find a church because a lot of times you don't even necessarily be part of a church to do freedom right. You can find small groups and and do the curriculum. It's literally life-changing. I've I've gone through it myself personally twice, um, and I've now been leading it for I don't know how many semesters but it's been over four and each time I get something new.
Speaker 2:But but I'm part of this freedom semester now, leading a group of men and me and Trey that's Trey we co-leaded together, we lead together and we got to this forgiveness week just recently and I challenged one of the guys because you know, he's explaining the situation and his situation was real.
Speaker 4:Like he has some real life happen.
Speaker 2:And I just kind of looked at him and I said okay, well, you've forgiven them and you've forgiven that person. Okay, but what about yourself? And he just got quiet and I said for you, like what does, what does? Actually, I told him, I said this is going to be your homework assignment, your personal homework assignment.
Speaker 2:I'm going to follow up with you. What does forgiving yourself look like? Like? What does it look like? And he was like, he just looked at me and he said you know, I don't know, I really don't know. And I said well, bro, I want you to get with Holy Spirit, you know, over the next several days. I I said, and you just have a moment with him and you just talk to him and get some type of working definition, get some type of because we need to start putting something into action, because you can't continue to leave yourself on the hook that God had already taken you off of, because that's literally what like battling unforgiveness with yourself, like that's literally what like battling unforgiveness with yourself, like that's literally what that looks like. God has already taken you off the hook, but you were you. You just you ever seen that spongebob episode? What?
Speaker 1:ah, lord, uh, my spongebob references there's a, there's a spongebob episode where um there are hooks that came down, keep coming down and they used them as swings and stuff like that but, the whole joke was like y'all are fish and y'all are you're hanging around something.
Speaker 2:Again, you're hanging around something that's killing you. That's killing you, but that's just like. That's the image that comes to mind and that's what it's meant for. Like you're literally putting yourself back on the hook.
Speaker 4:That Jesus has already taken you off Because.
Speaker 2:Because it literally says that, and Pastor preached it today. I'm not trying to take his message, but I'm just going with what my man of God has already given us. It literally says in the word that he's already forgiven our sins and he doesn't remember them. So if you've gone through this true heart of repentance and you've actually turned, it says that he doesn't remember them. He doesn't remember it.
Speaker 1:So why do you keep putting yourself back in remembrance of something that he already forgot? I forgot it before it even was a thing. Yeah, he had already put that plan in place.
Speaker 2:He already put the plan in place.
Speaker 1:And you know what, now that we're here, I have another reason why it's harder, that I think, for people to take accountability. You know why? Because let's just say this situation, on relationships, or anything, let's say, well, let's say this I decided in my heart that I want to buy someone something.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And the Lord tells me well, no, don't do that.
Speaker 4:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:And I do it anyway.
Speaker 4:And you know what?
Speaker 1:the excuse I'm gonna use. Well, I was doing it out of the kindness of my heart and so that's, that's why we hold on to that too that's coming back up.
Speaker 2:You're gonna have to give me the exact words, but it says something to the effect of like our hearts are deceitful hearts are deceitful, so like we shouldn't be following them in the first place. So that was a very cute, you know reason, very cute reason, but we hop out of that.
Speaker 1:We hop out of that because, well, I had good intentions when I was getting with this guy. The Holy Spirit told me that I showed him all the love to help him change Misplaced.
Speaker 2:Misplaced.
Speaker 1:Disobedient and misplaced. That's the recipe for disaster Right and but disobedience in this place that's the recipe for disaster Right, and now you're dealing with a disaster and you only want to blame him.
Speaker 2:Jesus, we got to stop moving off of intention. Yeah, stop moving off of feels. I feel.
Speaker 2:Stop moving off of, like, what we think makes sense. We got to start moving off of the word of God, like what did God tell you? Because it's concrete. I had a lunch with another dude another guy I think like two weeks ago, and we're just sitting there talking and he's talking about the transition that he's about to go through and how he's thinking about taking this opportunity, which is light years away, and he's having a hard time seeing the position that God has him in now where he has abundant favor.
Speaker 2:He's like, literally, sitting right up underneath a guy that's making major moves here, in the position that God has him in now, where he has abundant favor. He's like literally, um, sitting right up underneath a guy that's making major moves here in the city and like you're battling, like considering leaving this where clearly like God's doing something here to go pursue something out there and, like my one question is did God, is God leading you there, mm-hmm.
Speaker 4:Did God tell you yeah, and he's like no. Well, that's clear.
Speaker 2:So we don't even need to have a conversation of what you need to do.
Speaker 1:No, you don't need to yeah To have a solid no like that and you still he was like no, straight up.
Speaker 2:He was like no, no. So what are we doing? We're going off of intentions, we're going off of feelings, but it feels right in it. Okay, you go out there if you want to.
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 1:It's like that reminds me of when the Lord told Paul not to go somewhere.
Speaker 3:Yep.
Speaker 4:And he went, and he got jumped like physically jumped.
Speaker 1:Right, Like you didn't even have to take them punches all them kicks in the head.
Speaker 2:If you just stayed over here, you almost died.
Speaker 4:Man.
Speaker 1:If you just stayed over here If you had just stayed Right and surely you know he had intentions of doing good things.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:But the Lord told him no.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And you went over here and got beat down. Yeah, yeah, it's crazy, yeah, and it's always. And what I love about the word too, we tend to learn too when we well, this generation fights that too, because they be saying they want to buy the sense rather than you know they got to buy the sense they sell.
Speaker 2:Crazy.
Speaker 1:But the word allows us to see different degrees of things. And you just be like, well, you know what, I ain't going to do that Right, right Right, because it's clear, it shows us things, and that you just be like, well, you know what I ain't gonna do that right right right because it's clear, it shows us yeah it shows us we gotta get to the point where it's like experience doesn't like have to be the main teacher yeah, and it's. You don't have to be the best teacher someone said something to me crazy, though.
Speaker 2:They said well yeah, typically I gotta go through stuff in order to learn. I'm like, well, that's an insane statement that's very insane and I told him. I said well, we gotta change that immediately and he kinda like and I was like yeah, because experience is not.
Speaker 1:It's so noble and hard and gangster.
Speaker 2:I gotta go through stuff in order to no you don't you gotta experience being punched in the face?
Speaker 1:to know how to dodge, come on you can just dodge by not being in the place. Come on now, right. And not being in the place, right, right, how about we just learn to have an appetite for the word and go to the word and see stuff, because that's another thing I was going to say.
Speaker 2:I feel like a lot of times when we approach the Bible, we try to like you know. A lot of times we're like the David you know, but you have to know what season you're in, and I think that's what, going back to your point, I think that's what's the beautiful thing about the word yeah because if you know what season and you're also in tune with holy spirit, holy spirit will also be able, in your hearts, open.
Speaker 2:Holy spirit will actually show you know, in this season you actually not david in this season, you actually saw in this season, you, not you know, david, in this season, you, you go live or you know what I'm saying, or in this season. You, you're, not, you're not saw.
Speaker 1:You're actually paul, you're, you're, you're, you're more. You know what I'm saying? Or in this season, you're not, you're acting like the children of Israel.
Speaker 2:I'm telling you You're not Saul, you're actually.
Speaker 1:Paul, you're Paul.
Speaker 2:You're more, you know what I'm saying, but we got to be open to Holy Spirit and just understand. You know what seasons we're in as we're looking to the word, because, again, when we come to the word to actually read it, we're actually being able to have proper context if you will, yes absolutely and understand where it seats in our life currently.
Speaker 1:Absolutely, and that's again speaking to the whole.
Speaker 2:You know the word is living and breathing.
Speaker 1:And breathing it's a mirror. You're not David, all the time. You're not David all the time.
Speaker 2:You're not.
Speaker 1:You're not. Sometimes you act more like Saul. Absolutely You're acting like Saul, you acting like Jezebel, you acting like whoever. But you know that's been a common theme for me also. With going back and reading all these accounts, I always say we can see ourselves easily in any of these people Easily, and we're honest with ourselves, especially the children of Israel. We're honest with ourselves Easily. I had this conversation with Del. Yeah, especially the children of Israel. We're honest with ourselves, yeah, easily. Yeah, I had this conversation with Nalana earlier. We were talking about the children of Israel and how you know everything be going good. They be all for the Lord. Two blinks later, they out here creating idols. My thing is this how you worshiping something that you had to create, y'all had to pull y'all jewelry together and gold together and make something, and make something.
Speaker 1:And you're worshiping that rather than the true and living God.
Speaker 2:I talk about. They must be going crazy out there in the wilderness.
Speaker 1:They must have been losing their mind. Was it cabin fever? I don't know what it was.
Speaker 2:They must have been going crazy. They were disobedient, they got bit by a weird mosquito or something that made everybody go crazy, but we do it all the time.
Speaker 1:We do it all the time, all the time. Everything is going well.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Then we start, you know, praying as much, we ain't reading as much. So when something goes crazy, now we're on our knees, yeah, and you know that's not to say. The Lord is always looking for us. So I mean, when you find yourself in that position, that's not to say that he'll you know, reject you. Yeah, yeah, he's definitely the father waiting on the prodigal son, but we shouldn't want to always be doing that.
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 1:We shouldn't want to be in that situation all the time.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And always, you know, running to him when or something is wrong. But we could have just stayed with him all along.
Speaker 2:Could have just stayed.
Speaker 1:Could have just stayed with him, stayed in contact with him. We don't like it as humans.
Speaker 3:No.
Speaker 1:Somebody only calling you when they want something.
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 1:Some numbers you see popping up what they want Because they don't call no other time. You don't have no real relationship with them. You know what I'm saying. Some phone calls I see I get joy and other phone calls. I know something is going to be required.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And I'm not. I'd be like I have to think about it. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:Yeah. But, I think that's kind of a and we talked about this this past semester in freedom too. Like when do we run to God? Do we only come to God when something's wrong?
Speaker 3:Or do we actually like are?
Speaker 2:trying to at least live in this relationship with Him where you can just talk to Him just when you're. We just got to be careful and I just want to challenge anyone who might be listening Assess what your conversation with God looked like, and I think that's a good indication of where you might be in your relationship with Him. If you're only talking about what you need and you're only running to him for emergencies and all that stuff, I would admonish or I would encourage you. You got to take your relationship with him further.
Speaker 1:You got to take it further. He got to take it seriously.
Speaker 2:I mean he knows all. But like I would just be kind of annoyed, I would be mad We'd have to go to counseling if Kyra the only time she came to me to talk to me was because you know when she wants something.
Speaker 3:When she wants something or when she's wrong.
Speaker 2:Yeah, when something's wrong or when she needs something.
Speaker 1:Now I'm your husband today. Right, right, right.
Speaker 2:No, I want to hear when she's having a good day. Want you to talk to me what's going on in your mind? Like right, she gets on me because I ask questions all the time. But those are the questions I'm asking, like hey, what you?
Speaker 3:thinking about hey, what's?
Speaker 2:stressing you what's worrying you you know what went well, like yeah, what do you? What are you believing for right? What like? These are the conversations like I feel like a real relationship have?
Speaker 2:absolutely, but if we're only running to him when we want something, when we need something. Yeah, I would encourage you to. Yeah, you, you got to push, push past. Like this changed my quiet time for real. I would always talk about, you know, and I think it's important we have to offload our cares, right, I think that. So. So you got to hear me correctly, because I'm not saying don't do this, but like I had to really check, or I got checked, you know well, I checked myself. It was led of Holy Spirit to check myself in my quiet time, to assess my conversation, because, like, I found like the only things I was really talking about was the stuff that I needed, and I said, you know what I told God one morning, and this is one that I'll change I said I'm not even going to talk to you today about my necessarily needs.
Speaker 3:Because you know my needs.
Speaker 2:You actually have a plan set up for all the, for the needs, so there's no point for me to talk about a plan that you already have.
Speaker 1:I just want to tell you how much I love you. Stevie wonder gave it to us in a song he did, I just called, I just called yeah yeah, he gave it to us in a song, and I sat there literally for 30 minutes and I just had a heart of gratitude.
Speaker 2:And I just I went through and I just thanked him. I wrote down just as much things as I could remember and I was overwhelmed, I just started crying.
Speaker 4:Not talking about my needs.
Speaker 2:Not talking about my needs, and I left that time so filled, so filled Going over the goodness. Just and honestly in a moment of yeah, it was prayer, but it was honestly looking, it was an in-depth moment of true worship. Not necessarily worshiping him for necessarily what he's done but, being thankful and overwhelmed by who he is who.
Speaker 1:He is, solely who. He is, who he is. Yesterday I was at a prayer breakfast and we quoted the 23rd Psalm, right, and so the first line kind of was you know? I heard it differently yesterday. You know, that's the thing too, when you get familiar with Scripture and you get real common with it. Sometimes it's just like a, you just roll like oil and water, like you know what I'm saying. Oh, I already know that scripture, been knowing it since I was a baby.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the first line says our father jesus just right here, our father, right we could park right there we could stop right there. So not only does that part show us who he is to us, he shows us, who we are jesus to him, yeah, his children, yeah, son right his children, his sons yeah yeah, he is so just right there like you know how long, how many times, infinite amount of times I have quoted the 23 songs and the word is just so genuine toward us.
Speaker 1:He's always telling us, always whispering to us I love you, I want the best for you. I've already done it, matter of fact. It's just up to you to receive it and to take part in it. So I really heard that differently, just those two words, our Father, and it made me think about the children of Israel, at first, only knowing him as God, you know, feeling like he was just judgment, just fire, and brimstone yeah. And then they got to call him Abba.
Speaker 3:Wow.
Speaker 1:Now we know him in a different position. Now I'm not scared to run to him.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I don't feel like you know, every time I'm conversing with him. I got to be ducking and dodging.
Speaker 4:If he reach out his hand.
Speaker 2:Coming to mom? Yeah, he's not abusive.
Speaker 4:You know what?
Speaker 1:I'm saying so. I really heard that differently and I encourage people that you know in your relationship when you're reading scripture and let it be personal.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Let it be personal to you and you'll see like this man really does love me.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:This man really cares for me, and a lot of times I think about children when they be acting out. Most of the time it's for a lack of attention, wow, or they don't feel loved, so is that us? Is that why we're? Doing part of the things why we're doing the things, because we don't understand fully how much God loves us.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And we don't take that into account. You know what I'm saying. We don't really see him as Father. We say it all the time oh Father, God, oh Jesus.
Speaker 2:Don't just breeze over that. Let's park there.
Speaker 1:Park it, our father.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Wow, our father Wow. And if we think about the duties of a father, for his children.
Speaker 2:I think it's hard.
Speaker 1:Oh, it can be hard in certain situations.
Speaker 2:It's hard for certain people because we either have a poor father, figure in our natural lives or we don't have a father figure.
Speaker 1:Right, right.
Speaker 2:Or the father that I know is. You know, not me personally, but I'm saying for somebody.
Speaker 1:Absolutely.
Speaker 2:Their father figure might be. Well, you know, he abusive, he beat me. I watched him beat my mom. I watched him Like one of the.
Speaker 1:One of the ungodly things.
Speaker 2:I'll tell you how many stories I've heard of, just you know, coming alongside people and learning their story. Yeah, like my dad. Like you know, broke my mama's nose with me Like, so that's—.
Speaker 1:Or even killed.
Speaker 2:So when we read something that says like our father, like that's immediately.
Speaker 1:Well, they go back to our experience, but that's why we can't let our experience override who god really is, also exactly.
Speaker 1:We can't go with the feelings, then yeah and I know that's that's you know much easier, yeah, said than done. But that's why even more reason to get deeper into the word, because you'll see his example of fatherhood, yeah, you'll see him taking care of his children. You know what I'm saying. So then that way you can have that perspective of what you know what the father is. That's why I was saying really the duties of real fatherhood, right.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:And them really doing and being, you know for sure, Father you know, but, and he already saying he's a father to the fatherless right, he's already already got you covered, taking that into account already got you covered, so ahead of time, so ahead of time and so intentional now you said something which let me just introduce. Can I introduce the second? Question come on the second question you gave me, which I feel like you should be reading, but it's okay.
Speaker 1:No, you're good.
Speaker 3:Number two, the question you gave me.
Speaker 2:How can we avoid becoming dethroned? Or fired from a position by God and I just had a question because I got some stuff, okay, but I was like really like not struggling with this, but I was really just like on the couch yesterday like trying to filter and see where I land with this.
Speaker 2:But I was really just, like you know, on the couch yesterday like trying to and see where I land with this do you feel as if and you said it earlier in the conversation about like god, like we move, but god like he kind of stands still, you said something to the effect um, do you feel like god dethrones us, or do you feel like God dethrones us, or do you feel like we dethrone ourselves? We?
Speaker 1:dethrone ourselves, absolutely, absolutely. We do it all the time embellish, if you will, or expound okay, I always go back to my students, cause these are the areas where I experience a lot of things, cause I'm with them a lot. So let's say I told my children okay, you guys, we're going to go outside, but the condition is we have to finish all of our work. Yeah, right.
Speaker 3:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:So my kids, it's so funny because they just they wrestle with the thought of not being able to do do things that they want to do and doing the thing that needs to be done, so they can do what they want to do yeah right. So, uh, a couple of times we hadn't finished everything that we needed to do, and this is like going outside for you know, just just to be out there.
Speaker 4:This is outside of.
Speaker 1:You know Regulated PE time, but we didn't finish. We didn't finish our work in time Let me say it like that For us to go out there and have the time that they wanted to, and they were just so Crushed.
Speaker 2:They were not crushed.
Speaker 1:They were.
Speaker 2:PO, oh man yeah.
Speaker 1:And I be like Well, sweet child, you're not mad at me.
Speaker 2:Right, you're mad at you, you're mad at yourself.
Speaker 1:You know I can't hold up my end of the deal. Well, and I said really I can. Yeah, I have the ability to take you outside.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:But we're missing your part, wow. So yeah, in those moments they dethrone themselves. Wow, absolutely dethrone them.
Speaker 2:I agree with you, and that's where I kind of parked and what holy spirit kind of communicated to me was that, like positions from god, they, they aren't earned they're given they are given, it's like a grace gift.
Speaker 2:So, like some people and that's why I just want to help somebody out here too, like you, like you trying to look at the position that he or she or they, you know whoever they might be and you're kind of angry, well, I want to free you right here. Like God gives the position, he does, he gives it, he gives the platform, he does. We are stewards.
Speaker 1:Over Over.
Speaker 2:Over the seat, over the position. Over the opportunity and Over the seat, over the position, over the opportunity, and so like to your point. I feel like we dethrone ourselves by being poor stewards, poor stewards, not stewarding it, you know well.
Speaker 1:Right, just like Saul.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I found too that we got to be careful when we're trying to what's the word fight for a position that God hasn't graced you for, because then you try to build your own throne. You do. Now you're trying to create your own opportunity and you're trying to force yourself to a spot Like maybe it's not time for you to launch that podcast. Maybe it's not I know that might sound strong, because normally you hear from everybody launch start the podcast.
Speaker 2:No, maybe Do it, scott. Maybe you don't need a mic right now, maybe you don't.
Speaker 3:Maybe you got to grow up?
Speaker 2:Yeah, maybe you got to grow up. Maybe you need to serve somebody first before you try to.
Speaker 1:That makes me go back to again. My kids and I. We were studying colonial times, and here's a word that we don't really hear a whole lot anymore is the word apprentice.
Speaker 2:It's the word apprentice.
Speaker 1:We like to skip over that we like to skip over it, and now they call it internship. But you still don't really hear a whole lot of people saying that. But when you're a nurse, when you get in the medical field, you got to do it, you got to be what they call a resident.
Speaker 3:A resident yeah, you got to do it.
Speaker 1:You got to be under people who have already done this thing. Yeah, the will is already created.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Right, you got to learn how to control the will, how to master. You. Maybe can't even improve it, wow, but the will is done. So even improve it, wow, but the will is done. So they got to give you the bait. You got to follow them around Jesus. That's how you get your skin in the game.
Speaker 2:I was having this thought last night too, as I was kind of thinking through this, that I was stuck on this word calling Mm-hmm. Like it's a calling, so he calls you.
Speaker 1:He calls you.
Speaker 2:Right, like, let me pick up my phone and try to call myself what you doing?
Speaker 1:What if you just get up one day and yell out Joe, Right, come here, joe.
Speaker 4:Right Right Doesn't make sense.
Speaker 2:Tyra's gonna be sending a message to pray for her man of God. Get this man about my house because he's going crazy calling himself Daddy.
Speaker 1:Right Say Lord, why are you calling?
Speaker 2:yourself. Yeah, you can't call yourself.
Speaker 1:He calls you. He calls you, you pick up the call.
Speaker 2:You pick up the call, you pick up the call and I think, going back to this whole David Saul thing, that's exactly what we see. It wasn't like David was forcing himself into the palace, he wasn't. He was out doing his father's business, which was tending sheep out in the hills of nowhere.
Speaker 1:And that was the difference. Also, he wasn't forcing himself into the palace.
Speaker 2:He wasn't, but Saul was, even though he knew.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Samuel told him.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:The Lord has rejected you. Yeah, he still tried to stay. He tried to even kill to stay in that position.
Speaker 2:It's almost like a dual seeking, like David was seeking God, dual seeking like David was seeking God and as a result of him seeking God, then God sought David for an opportunity and put him in position. I feel strong, heavy, like that's going to free somebody right there, because you trying to figure out and scheme and plot and here's my 60 day, step by step. You're not going to be able to do that with this type of position that God has for you.
Speaker 2:He has for you, but it comes at a specific time and a specific season. You just keep seeking God with a purity of heart. Hey, seek first the kingdom. Scripture.
Speaker 1:Then it's going to be added.
Speaker 2:I wish I knew the exact spot because I pulled just like my pastor, I hear you Come here, come here. Wherever that's at In the word, come here, come here.
Speaker 1:Yeah, seek first and everything else, everything else Is gonna be added and he goes back to here. Here's the what pastor be saying. Here's the witness Two or more.
Speaker 2:He goes back to Back in Psalms With David telling us To delight ourselves In the Lord.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And he'll give us the desires.
Speaker 2:Of our heart. He won't. He won't Appoint you to a place that he hasn't yet Anointed you for. That's right.
Speaker 1:Because the anointing had to come first.
Speaker 3:Before they were even king, yeah Right it had to be anointed for.
Speaker 1:He said yeah, that's the one, that's the one, that's the one. And look, samuel didn't, he didn't go by what was appealing? Well, he did in his mind.
Speaker 2:Yeah, in his mind.
Speaker 1:But he had to follow what God said. What God said.
Speaker 2:And this oil is not for you. We even know it's not for you.
Speaker 1:We even know, jesse felt like yeah.
Speaker 3:Bring that boy right here first.
Speaker 1:Cause I know he look like a king.
Speaker 2:Right, he look like a king Right.
Speaker 1:Bring the other one. He done brought six boys out here.
Speaker 2:Nah, there's got to be one more Six or seven boys out here? Yeah, Are you talking about Dave? Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:He out back. Yeah, you talking about him.
Speaker 2:I can go get him if you want, but you might want to cover your nose for this Right. He got flies.
Speaker 1:He out there working All types of Smelling like I signed, and no doubt he had made the other guys take their bath and dress up real nice Right Got haircuts. Standing up there, real tall and strong.
Speaker 2:What I've learned in this ministry that's really helped me see this is that your platform is not for you.
Speaker 1:It's not for you.
Speaker 2:So like, in other words, like your throne is not for you, it's not for you. So I think we get fired or dethroned from a position that God gives us when we start basically abusing that position. Like you are literally being abusive with the anointing that God has given you because it's not. It was never meant for you. It was always meant to reach out, have an effect on change. Other people Come alongside others.
Speaker 1:It was never necessarily meant for anyone in the first place and if we think about that, that's the definition of a king.
Speaker 3:Yeah, or a leader in general, yeah, to take care of the kingdom.
Speaker 1:It's not necessarily the kingdom for the king, it's the king for the kingdom.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:And let's switch the words out, then, rather than us being fired, what keeps us from forfeiting our position?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I want to make it, I want to finish.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I don't want to have to forfeit.
Speaker 1:I don't want to forfeit.
Speaker 2:I don't want to. Or going back to I don't want to be. I want to be able to finish.
Speaker 1:Because I feel like if you talk to athletes, they would rather lose the game after putting in the effort than forfeiting, yeah.
Speaker 2:Oh, 10,000%. Yeah, Right, yeah, then just you know what? Let me take my L Right, let me give it a shot, right, right.
Speaker 3:Let me do the work rather than forfeit.
Speaker 1:That's why, even when people know that they're not the first at the race, when you hear athletes say it's just important to them to finish it, to just go ahead, you know, cross the line whether they're the last or the first right.
Speaker 2:So so the seat is like a serving seat. Then I'm in. I'm in the seat because I'm called to serve, to serve. So I'm called to serve. But the question is, who are you serving?
Speaker 3:are you serving?
Speaker 2:you or are you serving the people that god has assigned you? To and I think that's where.
Speaker 1:How are you serving God?
Speaker 2:You're right, and that's when we come out underneath that we remove ourselves from the seat. Because there's another thing that I was thinking about too the word says that we're seated. He's seated us with him.
Speaker 1:He's seated with him. He's seated us with him.
Speaker 2:So now that we understand that understanding, he's already told you to sit down. Why standing? He's already. He's already told you to sit down. Why would you?
Speaker 1:stand up. Why would you stand up? Why would you stand?
Speaker 2:up. He's already seated as him, because why, so? Why are you gonna stand up?
Speaker 1:imagine standing up from a table that's already beautifully laid out for him jesus you're just gonna forfeit everything my god why would you stand?
Speaker 2:up. Why would you stand up? Why would you stand up? No, stay, stay seated, stay seated. We stay in the seat by keeping God truly at the center of our hearts, pursuing him with the right intentions, with the, with the sincere and, yes, we're going to make mistakes along the way. That's, that's inevitable. But you can't allow a mistake to become a state.
Speaker 1:And you don't. Yeah mistake to become a state and you don't, yeah, you don't.
Speaker 2:Let it be a state, don't allow a mistake, because I think some of y'all just missed that. Yes, repeat it, don't don't allow a mistake to become a state to be a state.
Speaker 1:Don't make it a habitation right.
Speaker 2:Oh, I love that word don't, don't live in that thing. Don't make it a habitation. Repent, do just like david did do it just like he did take accountability, turn quickly, repent and actually and I love that word about training Do just like David did, do it just like he did Take accountability, turn quickly, repent and actually and I love that word about turning and we took some time with the Christianists and didn't really talk about the turning- Because, you can't say that you've repented and you haven't yet turned, so don't say I'm sorry and then like not put anything in place Right To actually like what are you doing to actually change your?
Speaker 2:thinking about that thing that you just participated in. So maybe for somebody, I don't know, maybe it's smoking. Okay, you repented 20 million times and the reason why you're keep and I'm speaking because this was me I got upset, don't you smoke.
Speaker 1:No, no, no, no, not smoking I've been saying that I can't see you as a smoker. No, no. I've smoked before, but it wasn't like a thing for me, that was not me, no, that's just funny Like seeing you guys just you know, in this, seeing you as the elder.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1:No, it's hard for me to see certain people.
Speaker 2:You know outside of who they are.
Speaker 4:now I'm trying to see you passively in the club?
Speaker 2:I don't see that, no, but the heart of what I'm trying to say is the same Like we keep falling into these repetitive cycles where it's like I can't change and like I try and I'll do good for like a month and then I'll go right back.
Speaker 1:Well, my one question is like how did you change your thinking about that thing? How did you change your?
Speaker 2:thinking about that, because your actions won't change or your actions won't turn until your mind turns.
Speaker 1:You won't completely stay consistent until you change your mind about it Until you change your mind. That's like knowing if I'm drinking out of a certain bottle of water.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And I know that that bottle is infested with mono. Why would I keep drinking? Why would you keep drinking If it's infested with flu? Somebody drunk out of there that had the flu why?
Speaker 2:would I keep drinking, man? Why would you keep drinking?
Speaker 1:Even though I understand water as being a life source and a necessity, but not that can. Not the tainted can yeah.
Speaker 2:I had to change my mind about a lot of stuff this year. More naturally for my body, because I'm in faith for some things. So I need my life to align with what I want to see. The pastor teaches us that, like, in order to see what we want to see, we've got to make the adjustments, the accommodations. So there's going to be some things you're going to need to change.
Speaker 2:So I needed to change some of my eating and I let praise be to God. It's April and I decided at the top of the year I decided this personally that I was going to stop drinking coffee and soda. But then I knew from god that I he told me that I needed to let um, like dairy, um, uh, some beef like that, like he told me some specific things I need to let go, but in order for me to change, I'll just take the soda thing for an example.
Speaker 2:And it's April, that's what I was about to say. It's April and I still have not yet Four months.
Speaker 1:I'm proud of you.
Speaker 2:Praise God yeah yeah, yeah, we're covering Coke, Coca-Cola addict man. There's just certain foods where it's just like man a burger, I just really I want to. I've associated and it's bad, but I've associated certain drinks with certain food, and so I was never one to just go up to the fridge. No, that's real, and just crack it open, and that was never me. But, like with certain foods, I want to Coke.
Speaker 2:But I decided I was going to let that go, because I want my life to be in alignment with what I want to see.
Speaker 1:Right, absolutely.
Speaker 2:All that to say, I needed to go and do research, like and educate myself like, literally, about the death, the date, like the date like what is actually in coke, and that has literally helped shift now how I see it. So we're sitting at the restaurant yesterday and, kennedy, she got a dr pepper but it was in a coke you know glass or whatever and the cup looked good and you know the the bubbles were fizzing and I was was sweating, just right there you know that it's very cold right right and I was able to look at that and say, you know, I, I don't want a coke or whatever, but my mind has shifted.
Speaker 1:How I see it?
Speaker 2:so now the, the struggle or the temptation is totally different yeah it's totally different absolutely where before, like in the last year when I was going through, well, pick it up and drink it, you know, and I don't put it down for a month, I'm picking it up and drinking it and then put it down. I was like trying to let it go or whatever.
Speaker 2:It wasn't sustainable and it didn't like the light bulb, didn't or the switch didn't flip because I yet haven't changed my mind on how I was just trying to do it, just to do it, but not understanding, like no, I needed to actually change my mind. And once I did that, oh it was. It was actually easy, easy. And kyra, she's like you good, like you, you, you like you haven't, and she can go in the car, she'll drink her coffees or whatever, and it's like it's not wow, because the one thing about a right way.
Speaker 2:Member coffee uh-huh, then we're gonna have a coffee. We gonna have a coffee.
Speaker 1:I'm in awe of that, uh-huh, uh-huh. Now look the Lord and the doctor took me off caffeine right.
Speaker 3:Uh-huh.
Speaker 1:And so I did really well for like I would say, like a year and a half. Yeah, because I did used to love Coke and Because I used to love Coke, and I was a person that just I didn't have to have anything Go to the fridge and yeah, easy. But I mean, I love water just as much.
Speaker 2:But Coke it was. I'm trying to develop this relationship with water. Y'all can't see it, but I got to water my hand. I love water, especially when it's cold. He does.
Speaker 1:He just took a sip Praise.
Speaker 4:God.
Speaker 1:And I love chocolate.
Speaker 4:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:Love tea, mm-hmm. Love Coke.
Speaker 4:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:And just finding out the things that caffeine well, caffeine's in yeah, and I did really good yeah For a long time, like a year and a half.
Speaker 3:Wow.
Speaker 1:And then I think I messed around and ate some M&M's Ah, and it was the kind with the caramel in it coming in the purple pack and I felt terrible, like physically terrible, and at first it didn't register why.
Speaker 4:I was like oh my god, what's going on?
Speaker 1:and then it clicked in my mind I just ate chocolate. Chocolate has caffeine, and maybe when that thing came over me.
Speaker 2:I was like ooh.
Speaker 1:Oh my.
Speaker 4:God no wonder yeah.
Speaker 1:And so, even in that, that was something I didn't have to experience. And then, like last week, I'm going to be honest.
Speaker 2:Come on, we here, since we're being transparent. We're being transparent, my God today, mighty God.
Speaker 1:I had. I had. What is it? It was a Twix and something else, because I used to. I'm going to tell you what I used to love too Twix, kit Kats and whatchamacallits.
Speaker 4:Okay.
Speaker 1:I'm not even a.
Speaker 2:Kit Kats M&M fiend. Yeah, kit Kats, you said Twix, kit Kats. Twix Kit Kats Twix they dangerous, they dangerous, they dangerous.
Speaker 1:They very dangerous.
Speaker 2:They dangerous.
Speaker 1:Twix, Kit Kats and whatchamacallits. Uh-huh, that was my thing.
Speaker 4:And.
Speaker 1:I ate one, and immediately it was over. And then again for whatever reason it didn't dawn on me. I was like, hmm, I felt that feeling again. I was like this again. I was like Jesus, the chocolate it had eased itself into my mouth.
Speaker 2:It just popped.
Speaker 1:It took itself out of the wrapper and everything. Now I'm lying, I'm joking y'all. But again I said Lord, okay, Mm-hmm, See what you're saying, Right, Right. But you know I shouldn't have done that.
Speaker 2:I shouldn't have did it. It's that same kind of if we could take this same thing, and you know we're talking about food and sodas and stuff. That might be very real to somebody, so I'm not trying to necessarily minimize it. Because that might be somebody's thing. Absolutely, but if we can just take that thing and apply it to whatever area you're struggling with like come back and see me.
Speaker 2:If that don't you know what I'm saying, dm me on Instagram after at least and I heard somebody else say this too when's the last time we've tried to commit to something for at least 90 days? At least 90 days. Try to go at least 90 days of action and do it with holy spirit, like with his leading and with his power, because he gives us power and strength. Try to do it consistently for 90 days and then try to like when's the last time you did something for 90 days?
Speaker 1:for 90 days.
Speaker 2:The right like, actually the right way like. So maybe we just commit ourselves to like litter and just if it don't just read hit me up because I'm telling you.
Speaker 1:And then I was so disappointed in myself because I had I'm telling you, I did good cold turkey like a year and a half yeah and I don't even know what happened. Then I picked up those m&ms. I don't even know.
Speaker 4:I think I just wasn't thinking yeah, yeah, or I don't know. I don't know what happened, but think I just wasn't thinking yeah, yeah, or I don't know.
Speaker 1:I don't know what happened. But it sure, I felt the difference. Yeah, I felt the difference. So now I don't do coffee and I did have like a cup of coffee one time and I felt the den too, and it was like this much and I was like oh yeah, I forgot yeah.
Speaker 2:And he was like about this much? And I was like oh yeah, I forgot, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:But I do decaf now. Okay, come on, I do decaf.
Speaker 2:And I still don't have a whole lot of it. She was like you want to try like a? I forgot one of the drinks, that's not coffee or whatever. I was like no, I don't even want to play with.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 3:I'm not even cool. I'm just no, I'm good, I got my water, I got my orange juice.
Speaker 2:I forced myself to like orange juice and I love orange juice.
Speaker 1:You didn't like orange juice, mm-mm. So what were you just was a soda baby.
Speaker 2:Well, I would drink soda, I would drink milk, like in the morning, like, for breakfast stuff. I'd drink milk. I would like. That was pretty much like and water and like the and like the milk was like the dairy thing was. I was getting headaches and so I went to the allergy doctor and, which was crazy holy spirit had bit this. Is this the power of holy spirit? He had already told me beforehand hey, it was the dairy.
Speaker 2:Cut this, stop eating this, stop eating this. But going back to art, I chose, I was soft, I wasn't following that, yeah, and I was getting headaches and I was trying to figure out, like, where is this? Because they're really weird headaches. I was getting them behind my eyes.
Speaker 2:They would start behind my eyes, sometimes they start behind my ears and if left like unintended like if I didn't take Advil, if I didn't go take a shower and run water over my head, or if I didn't go take a nap, it would blow up into like a whole migraine bad migraine like bad like I didn't go home from work bad and it was starting to interfere with my, my day like for real and and this was like every day, like I would wake up and and so, uh, I was like let me go to the, because with the headache came congestion.
Speaker 2:So I was like maybe I got like a little lingering sinus thing. So I went to the uh allergy doctor that well, she's like, well, I don't know if it's a lingering thing or if I don't know, you might have allergies. I was like allergies.
Speaker 1:I don't have allergies, you don't have allergies, I got seasonal stuff like the pollen and stuff, but like food Nah.
Speaker 2:She was like, well, let's do a test and then we'll be able to rule out what it is. And so I did the test and like they got like different categories, like you to this or you're like allergic to this yeah and all the things that I was allergic to on the food side was all the things that holy spirit was telling me to let go.
Speaker 4:So it like I wasn't even like shocked when I saw the results I was honestly more like mad at myself because I'm like okay, if I need like any type of more you know confirmation.
Speaker 2:And so she was like, yeah, that's literally what's contributing to it. And then, from that point forward, I was able to track it because, me being me, I'm like, okay, let's really like ride this thing out like I need any more evidence let's really like. So I for the next week. I literally had milk and then I headache had cheese headache had, beef headache had, um, uh, rice. Rice was another one, like, like the starch. I used to love the rice pilaf that came in that little red box. Oh yeah, ooh.
Speaker 4:I would throw it Rice pilaf Yellow rice.
Speaker 2:Sour cream Headache, cream cheese Headache. So now it's like I can. All the good things I can't even have like the littlest, tiniest, and so she's like you can come in and do allergy tests or like every week and pay $50 for the next two years a week.
Speaker 1:I was like, or I could just stop, follow Holy.
Speaker 2:Spirit going back to our conversation, because he already told me Because he already told me, so I didn't even have to go through. Really back to our conversation I didn't have to go through the last three, four months of headaches and having to go home and racking my brain about what If. I had just followed him from the beginning, up in that money, up in that money had. I just followed him from the beginning.
Speaker 1:As you just followed him.
Speaker 2:So now all of that's out of my diet, I can have like brown rice. I go to Chipotle. I can still thank the Lord I don't get a headache from that. And yeah, that's pretty much it.
Speaker 1:I don't have nothing that relates to Derry man, because I'm following Holy Spirit's direction, because he be trying to save us, uh-huh.
Speaker 2:He be trying.
Speaker 1:He be trying to save us. Are you listening?
Speaker 3:Are you listening?
Speaker 1:Yeah, Are you listening and then are you doing? Yeah, because what the scriptures? Say not just hearers but, doers.
Speaker 3:Doers of the word.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yep, can't be father of Jesus and halfway follow him. It's a full follow. Drop your nets Drop it and come and follow me.
Speaker 1:And this is not to discourage those who are on a journey. Yeah, but y'all know, you know.
Speaker 3:Right, you need to just go ahead and stop.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you already know.
Speaker 2:Right, you need to just go ahead and stop.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you already know I'm speaking of cold turkey. Yeah, cold turkey. Ministry on your life. Just done with it, take the taste right out of them mouth, jesus.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was looking at this lady's testimony the other day I think it was TikTok and she was saying you know she was a woman of the street because she had been dealt that hand. And she was saying how when she got saved, the Lord instantly took all of the things that she was battling with you know drugs and all that stuff, instantly took it out of her mouth, from her. You know tent to taste right away from her. And I've seen quite a few people like that and I think that's a beautiful testimony. I was thinking about Mase the rapper, mase the other day.
Speaker 1:He was talking about his testimony when he really, you know, heard the voice of God in the middle of an act. Oh, wow, and he was like I can't do this. Oh, wow, yeah, he was like the girl was was mad, or whatever I was like about an interruption, yeah, yeah a super interruption.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, wow it's, it's amazing.
Speaker 1:No doubt he had been speaking to him before then, but he just got to the point where one of the this is going to be encouraging for somebody.
Speaker 2:I think one of them and I'm walking through some things, some real things, with some real people right now, and it's all around the same things trying to put to death some stuff. And I tell every single one of them I think one of the most powerful prayers that we can pray as it relates to this I'm trying to get over this is asking holy spirit to take that appetite away like just ask him, just ask and you'd be. You'd be surprised a lot.
Speaker 2:Of this stuff is a lot easier than than we, and we're trying to do it without and I think that's what the heart of what I, what I try to say and try to communicate.
Speaker 2:We can't do these changes without the partnering of holy spirit because it's going to be him that gives you the strength and he's going to be able to replace that negative, bad, sinful appetite absolutely with what we talked about the very top of the conversation being able to taste and see, taste and see. That is something that's a promise that you can stand. That's a promise. So if you not just put him back in remembrance of his right, okay, right, okay, lord, you said that what you have for me is better.
Speaker 1:It's better. Yeah, that's even going back to the scripture. Delighting yourself in him, he'll give you the desires of your heart, of your heart yeah. That's appetite also Right. He'll change you to what it should be Right and like you say, remind him. Right, I'm doing it. Yeah, he tells us to remind him of his word. And again, there's so many ways to see that also.
Speaker 1:Yeah, um, and we tend to be a bit more bolder and we feel like we're reminding somebody, that's what they say so we, you know, we go in a little bit stronger that way, yeah because the reminder, the remandering is not necessarily for him, it's for you, it's your encouraging yourself. You know what he said Sure did. He says for us again, being a father to his babies, to his chitlins, is what I call my children sometimes Chitlins. Yeah, but I have enjoyed, as always.
Speaker 4:I told you we were going to run it back.
Speaker 2:You didn't say it, you said that.
Speaker 1:Now I do want you to run those six points back again for me. Just list it for me.
Speaker 2:What is he talking about? Being Christianist? I'm going to give you the definition Because I don't want to leave you out there. This is what the definition of Christianist I made'm going to give you the definition. Yes, because I don't want to leave you out there. This is what the definition of Christianist that I made. Holy Spirit gave me to communicate. Christian is someone who identifies as Christian but neglects the full call of being a Christ follower. A person who calls on Jesus but doesn't fully follow Jesus. Someone who practices church but disregards its principles. Someone who cherry picks his word based on convenience and feeling. A person who is in a polyamorous relationship with the beliefs of God and the patterns of this world.
Speaker 1:You didn't have to take it out, did you Polyamorous? Because that's exactly what it is.
Speaker 2:And the six C's of Christian is compromise obedience.
Speaker 1:Actually, let me because I want to give you all the scriptures too.
Speaker 2:That's why I was me, because I want to give you all the scriptures too compromise obedience. First, samuel 15, 8. Uh is where that uh point comes from. He captured agad the amalekite king, but completely destroyed everyone else. Number one compromise obedience, uh. Number two first, samuel 15, 9, solemn. His men spared agad's life and kept the best of the sheep, goats and cattle, the fat of the calves, the lam, everything in fact that appealed to them.
Speaker 2:There it is. They destroyed only what was worthless and of poor quality. Number two copying culture. Number three 1 Samuel 15, 13. It just follows this whole passage. When Samuel finally found him, saul greeted him cheerfully. May the Lord bless you, he said.
Speaker 2:I have carried out the Lord. Number three counterfeit spirituality, counterfeit you, lying. Number four 1 Samuel 15, 15. It's true that the army spared the best of the sheep, goats and cattle, saul admitted. But they are going to sacrifice them to the Lord, your God. We have destroyed everything else. Number four crafty excuses. Number five 1 Samuel 15, 19 through 21. But I did obey the Lord, saul insisted. I carried out the mission he gave me. I brought back the king, but I destroyed everyone else. Then my troops brought in the best of the sheep, goats, cattle and plunder to sacrifice the Lord, your God. And Gilgag, why haven't you obeyed the Lord? Why did you rush for the plunder and do what was evil in the Lord's sight, samuel?
Speaker 1:asked Rush forward.
Speaker 2:Number five condoning sin. In the last one, verse 30. Then Samuel pleaded again. I know I have sinned, but please at least honor me before the elders of my people and before Israel by coming back with me so that they may worship your God. Number six casual repentance.
Speaker 1:Casual.
Speaker 2:Yeah, don't make accommodations for what you should be killing.
Speaker 1:You ain't never telling them to go sleep in the guest room when you shouldn't even let it in the house. You shouldn't let it in the house Now. You can't get it out, right?
Speaker 2:And the message is over on YouTube on RightWay. If you go to RightWayCCC you can find that message there. It's called Christianist.
Speaker 2:It's over on our. You can watch a full night. Actually it was powerful People. I encouraged everybody at the end that we had cards and maybe somebody who's listening to this maybe needs to do the same. You just need to have a time of Holy Spirit and you write down on a card or in your journal or on a piece of paper or napkin. Write down all the things and you know what they are. Write down all the things that you're making room for in your life that you actually should be serving an eviction notice to.
Speaker 2:So, whether that be lust, whether that be unforgiveness, maybe it's a person, I don't know what it is Write that down, and then what I want you to do is I want you to tear it up. Tear it up, and that is what our pastor teaches a prophetic gesture. That like we're killing today tonight in the car, the thing that you know that we should be, we should be laying down.
Speaker 1:And it could be something as simple as insecurities. Yeah, yeah, it could be. It could be coke, it could be anything, it could be hello, it could be milk, it could be a. Tv show yeah, music, yeah, whatever it is Get rid of it, get rid of it, get rid of it.
Speaker 2:You already know Stop keeping what you should be killing you already know.
Speaker 1:Look, I saw this meme the other day and it was, like it said, black folks, but all folks be praying over pork and pray to God to bless it when it's a sin to you because you shouldn't be eating it if it makes you sick, just like you were saying whatever Holy Spirit told you to stop eating.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Simple as that. Yeah, the doctor told me to stop eating jalapenos.
Speaker 2:Hey, I can't have a taco bar without jalapenos. Oh God, baby Jalapenos.
Speaker 1:When I say I had to resist Yep, and this was like a few weeks ago, because I had gotten to this spell where I just want jalapeno on everything.
Speaker 2:And my body was like no you don't, no, you don't, girl, please, you're keeping what's killing you.
Speaker 1:So I just look at them. Now I don't put him on my plate, but you guys, so many delicious points.
Speaker 2:We kind of all over the map, but I hope it made sense.
Speaker 1:I hope it made sense too, I feel like it did.
Speaker 2:I just feel like we touched yeah.
Speaker 1:We're just chilling, just chilling, touching everything. Don't forfeit, don't forfeit.
Speaker 2:Just do what's said. Yep, just do. Forfeit, just do what's said.
Speaker 1:Just do what he said.
Speaker 2:Just do what he said.
Speaker 1:That's it, but we definitely gonna.
Speaker 2:Yeah, next time we come we gotta bring Cara now. Please do Cara. I know you're listening, Please do.
Speaker 1:You next. I want to get her on. I want to pass him too.
Speaker 2:I was gonna say you should do like her passing him.
Speaker 1:I want to do her pastime too. I was going to say you should do like her pastime, I want to do her pastime. And Roz, yeah, and Roz yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Roz came on with me if Roz come here and get on, please let me just sit outside. She came on with me, oh she did when we did worship 101?
Speaker 1:oh, I need to. I need to say about two seasons ago.
Speaker 2:Oh no, yeah, please send me that so.
Speaker 3:I told her I want to do a 102 with her.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I need to see that. All three of them, that's going to be a I'm going to tell Pastor to bring her
Speaker 1:her black towel with her. When she had that black towel on her hand. I know she mean business.
Speaker 2:I want to, and I might be releasing the cat out the bag a little too early.
Speaker 1:Come on man.
Speaker 2:But this year I really want to do like and Tyler, actually he's been helping, he's the one that kind of affirmed what I've been feeling in my spirit. I want to do like, not an unplug, but like. I really want to do a stripped back worship encounter night Like, where it's's like maybe we could do it at the church, but no, like I'm grateful for our production team. We're over the production team so hear me.
Speaker 3:Lights and screens and all that, but with all that.
Speaker 4:Strip down, just give me some bistro lights or something I can see people sitting on the floor. Yeah, get the chairs out the way and maybe even strip back the like the tracks and everything.
Speaker 2:Let's just have like yeah not all you know, even stripped I'm a drummer strip back the drums a little bit. Let's just have like just a just a strip back, because I think when we do that, like we really I'm not trying to make it too deep, but we get really to the heart of worship. You do a lot of times and I'm over it we can fall, you know, we fall into the trap of lights cameras and you know, and all that lyrics, and you know if, if the transition was just right no, let's just.
Speaker 2:Let's just get a keyboard a guitar, a bass and a little drum set and let's just get some voices and let's just worship him we can even just do voices yeah, we can't. We definitely can't just do yeah, yeah and just have and watch what is it through?
Speaker 1:And claps feet, stumps Right and watch God come through All of the above.
Speaker 2:And watch him come through.
Speaker 1:Absolutely yeah, but.
Speaker 2:I really want to do that with Kyra, with Roz, with the team.
Speaker 1:I'm ready Whenever they ready. I just want to be in the presence. We going to set it up. I just the people say Yep, yep. But we're going to let you guys go. I hope you got so many things out of this. I'm definitely going to go back and listen.
Speaker 2:Oh for sure, and see what I need to get out. So, yes, I'm going to let y'all, let me go Absolutely. Right Listen he done traveled in the rain and the wind Right, I had to pull up for this.
Speaker 1:So thank you, for I'm thankful for you and your yes, and your really, really being obedient to God. I can see it. Yeah, I appreciate it. You only elevate when you obey him. Yeah, you only elevate. Yeah, only there's no other way to go. Nope, but you guys, I hope that you have gotten everything you need out of this. Please listen, re-listen all of the above. Share with your family and your friends, especially your enemies. It's Bible. Should you still really have enemies back now?
Speaker 2:just post it on your story they'll all see it.
Speaker 4:Just share with everybody.
Speaker 1:Just share but we'll see you guys next time. See you next time.