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The Bridegroom Blueprint

Zactrese Williams Season 6 Episode 6

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Dive into the sacred foundation of Christian marriage as we explore God's divine blueprint for husbands and wives. With wisdom from experienced spiritual leaders, this episode unpacks the profound parallels between Christ's relationship with the church and the husband-wife dynamic described in Ephesians 5:22-33.

At the heart of this blueprint lies a revolutionary truth: "The foundation is love." Not just any love, but the sacrificial, unconditional love Christ demonstrated by giving Himself for the church. For husbands, this means embodying a love so profound they would willingly lay down their lives for their wives – a responsibility that requires men first understand who they are in Christ before attempting to lead a household.

We examine how the husband serves as the spiritual "high priest" of the home, being the first partaker of Scripture and setting the example for the family. This leadership isn't about dominance but sacrificial service, creating an atmosphere where both partners thrive in their complementary roles. When this divine order is followed, marriages experience the peace, protection, and blessing God intended.

The consequences of deviating from God's plan become strikingly clear through biblical examples like Abraham and Sarah, whose attempt to fulfill God's promise through their own methods created generations of conflict. Similarly, marriages that abandon God's design face unnecessary struggles and spiritual drought. Unity, anchored in "the fear of God," emerges as the essential element that allows couples to navigate inevitable challenges while maintaining their covenant relationship.

Whether you're married, considering marriage, or simply seeking to understand God's design for relationships, this episode offers practical wisdom for building marriages that reflect the beautiful mystery of Christ and His church. Will you choose to follow God's perfect blueprint for your relationship?

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Speaker 2:

What's up everybody and welcome back to your favorite podcast, something like sunday school. I am purpose williams and tonight is extremely special to me. I know y'all say I say that about all the episodes, but I mean, hey, it's all special right, it's the word of God, and what's beautiful about it is it's inexhaustible. And so if you're reading, if you're taking no, it's just like if I say this if you can watch a movie and you can see something that you didn't see the first time, or the third time or the tenth time that you can watch this movie, surely the word of God is even much more Right, even much more. I have tonight. Last episode I had my mom and my aunties, so tonight I have my dear uncles with me. I have my uncle, clay Clay's, the uncle of angel security. Right, who better to watch?

Speaker 3:

over you. Watch over you, Dandana.

Speaker 2:

Okay, man, when I tell y'all I have been surrounded all my life by men and women of God, and to just have them so intimately placed in my life, it's just beautiful to me and I'm just so grateful to God for them. I also have with me my uncle, reverend Thomas Dixon of New Beginnings Christian Ministries, and he's also a principal here at our school, dixon's Total Touch. Uncle, what do you want to say to the people?

Speaker 4:

Again, we are so grateful and thankful to our God that we are able to come and be with you tonight. Hopefully we are going to learn something or impart in somebody else something.

Speaker 2:

We will, we will. I'm excited about it. I felt like this was a very important episode. My Uncle Thomas and I Talk a lot about the order of things and how you know Order is important for anything. Order is important for a card game, so surely for life it's important as well. Oh, yes, that's it.

Speaker 2:

And in the areas now we need a lot of restoration Of order and how things should be, and it's already Really laid out so beautifully for us if we just follow that plan. That's it so, uh, tonight. Um, I know I'm gonna learn something even more so from my uncles and I'm so thankful that I can trust their ear and their heart for god and their heart for people, their heart for men and their heart for people, their heart for men and women, boys and girls, and I've watched I just got through messing with my uncle a few minutes ago, uncle Clay, and reminiscing about him picking up people off the streets, taking, you know, taking them to church, taking them home, you know all kinds of things.

Speaker 2:

And you know, now it's a different story and you really have to be led the holy spirit to be, you know, trying to pick people up now, but back then that was so fascinating to me and I'd be like man, I don't know if I'd be able to do that.

Speaker 2:

you know when I get, when I get grown much prayer much prayer, much prayer, but you know, these are the things that were of normalcy to me, that I was able to Experience and see the love of Christ In so many ways. There was no, you know, discrimination. People were sometimes Drunk or whatever, and we used to have Drunk with people Coming into the church All the time At Sherwood, and I always felt like that was a perfect place for them to be.

Speaker 1:

I felt like In that state.

Speaker 2:

Right and in that state, if you searching out church, your soul really know. Your soul really know when you need to be. But Tonight I'm excited we're going to be coming out of Ephesians, that is in the New Testament. It's a letter to the church At Ephesus. But just because it's a letter to the church At Ephesus Does not mean that we can't get anything Out of that letter.

Speaker 4:

To that church.

Speaker 2:

Us. That's right Us. I like that. I'm going to use that all the time. Now To us Word.

Speaker 2:

Some of you know, some of you may not know, our position as a church as it portrays God towards us and us towards God. We are called the bride of Christ and God is called the bridegroom. How befitting that. He sets this example for us, and we see in the Bible the limits, or really the no limits, that God goes to to rescue his bride, to maintain his bride and to you know, to be of Really perfecting them, and that's something I think that's so beautiful. But in that example, and to be of really perfecting them, and that's something I think that's so beautiful. But in that example we can see how our lives should be. And so this is why I brought my uncles on. Both of them are husbands and men of God who I've seen. I've seen the example in both of them and a lot of my uncles as well. So we're going to go to Ephesians, the fifth chapter. We're going to start at the 22nd verse and we're going to read it on out. Uncle Clay, you want to read that for us.

Speaker 3:

Wives, submit yourselves to your own husband as to the Lord, For the husband is the head of the wife, as also Christ is the head of the church and he is the Savior of the body. Therefore, just as the church is subject to Christ, so let the wives be to their own husband in everything. Husband, love your wife. Just as Christ also loved the church and gave himself for her, that he might sanctify and cleanse her with the washing of the water, by the word, that he might present her to himself a glorious church not having spot or wrinkle or any such thing, but that she should be holy and without blemish, so husbands ought to love their own wives as their own bodies.

Speaker 3:

He who loves his wife loves himself, For no one ever hated his own flesh, but nourished and cherished it, just as the Lord does the church, For we are the members of his body, of his flesh and of his bones. For this reason, a man should leave his father and mother and join to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh. This is a great mystery, but I speak concerning Christ and the church. Nevertheless, let each one of us, one of you in particular, so love his own wife as himself and let the wife see that she respects her husband.

Speaker 2:

This is so. I found this absolutely delicious because we see the benefits of the wife submitted to a husband who is led by God. That's it. We see so many benefits, and what I found too is absolutely delicious Down here on verse 29. I want to know if that sounds familiar to some of you. It says for no one ever hated his own flesh, but nourishes and cherishes it just as the Lord does to church. For we are members of his body, of his flesh and his bones. That starts. That should start sounding familiar right here. Here's where it gets real familiar. For this reason, a man shall leave his father and his mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh. It's given genesis, the second chapter, and we saw that take place with with adam and the woman that God made him to be a helpmate. So I think it's always just so delicious how the word really ties itself back to itself. It's a witness of itself to itself, to us.

Speaker 2:

And I think that's incredibly, incredibly delicious. I know that I sent these questions to my uncle. These are questions that have been on my heart concerning a lot of things, so we're going to get right into that question. I said how important is it for a man to know who he is in Christ even before committing to the role of a husband?

Speaker 4:

It's very important that we know who we are connected with, because the Bible teaches us that we are part of his body and he's in us, and this is the thing that we can build our foundation on our life, on the foundation that we need to be a husband, to be a good leader, to be a man even. Yes, that we know, recognize who we are. I say this all the time. I don't think men have to be validated. You ought to know who you are yourself, and the only way that you're going to know who you are, you're going to have to line your life up with God's word, because this is the reality of who man is supposed to be right and that's also what I feel, that it starts with a relationship with God and then you, you, once you have that relationship with God, you can, you can know who you are, and then you can see yourself being a husband.

Speaker 3:

But without that relationship it's impossible to really truly be a husband.

Speaker 2:

And that's a strong word, impossible. It's impossible to be one, at least one that lines up.

Speaker 1:

With the word of God.

Speaker 2:

And I think that, being you said something I found interesting too that men shouldn't need validation. They can really get their validation from a relationship with God, and a lot of that is lost. Now we see people and this was really just the times presenting themselves as you said it was going to do.

Speaker 1:

It's the times presenting themselves, as he said it was going to do and the word.

Speaker 2:

We see a lot of people just really pulling away from the word of God. Pulling away from God they will say a higher being or the universe, or you know things like this. But I said this on the last episode we all have a God-shaped void in our heart, in our lives, and we we try to fill that thing with a lot of different things, but it just won't suffice. It will not suffice until we get in relationship. It cannot, it's impossible, right? That's that word again. Um, was there ever a time I asked my auntie this last episode also Before you came to Christ? How did you come to Christ, uncle Clay?

Speaker 3:

I was a youngster, a teenager, and I was at a church and I heard the gospel. The gospel Because he said the gospel Is the power of God unto salvation To everyone that will believe. And after hearing the gospel, I accepted Christ as my personal savior. And that's when it started, that relationship began.

Speaker 2:

Yes, that's so, was it? Was it easy for you to receive?

Speaker 3:

Yes, it was easy. Because Of the gospel, it was His appointed. Of the gospel, it was His appointed time. Anytime it's His appointed time, it's easy To accept him.

Speaker 2:

Yes, that's. That's beautiful To me also, like Just listening to and You've been with With Christ for a long time Now. Yes, and that's a beautiful thing it is. And I remember being young thinking that all older people were saved, and it was so baffling to me and not calling you old. But you know, when you're young you think anything is not 20-something, that is old. And I remember coming across these older people and realizing, man, they are not saved, right, I don't know why. I just thought older people were just automatically saved. I guess probably because I feel like they live life and they tried this and tried that and surely now they come to the realization of who they need to be with.

Speaker 4:

The reason that that was not true Is due to the fact that the scripture declares that all of us Came and messed up.

Speaker 2:

Yes, we did so.

Speaker 4:

We had to Come to that place In life, accept the gospel, right Word that Brother Deacon Young said To bring the change Into our life, because when we look at the word of God, it's a mirror.

Speaker 2:

It is.

Speaker 4:

You can see yourself, and I'm often telling people stop looking for everybody else too, when you're looking at the Word. Right, because we've got enough to deal with about our own selves, the. Bible also says this to us that we will not reach perfection until he who is perfect comes back. So what am I saying? You're not perfected yet. Not yet.

Speaker 4:

You've still got some spots, You've still got some wrinkles Even though we're far away our relationship with our God. There's still some things that has to be addressed, and what I love about your topic for tonight is the fact that that's where it should start. The Bible says things begin at home and spread abroad. So if it ain't right at home, it ain't going to be right out. It's not.

Speaker 2:

And you know what. What is very clear, especially working with children you can tell. You can tell how those babies behave, you can tell what type of home they're coming from.

Speaker 2:

That's it, you can tell when something changes In their home. Right, I remember this baby I had. This is when I was working with the two-year-olds and he came from a two-parent home. They seemed to be loving, caring the baby. He was very smart, very communicative, he had very clear speech and he was, as you could tell that his thought process was just extremely intelligent for his young age and um never had really an issue out of you know, kids do kid things, but one day he just stood up and he just put his pants down and urinated everywhere and I knew that I couldn't even get mad because I felt like something was wrong. Right, yeah, and this is how it was coming out and coming to find out there started to be Domestic violence In his home. Okay, and that's how he was expressing.

Speaker 2:

That something was Out of order. Oh yeah, it was out of order and it was affecting that baby. And so we even see when things got out of order With Adam and Eve and look at the destruction that's still From that decision that long ago.

Speaker 3:

You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2:

Consequences of decisions, consequences of decisions. Do you think that you would be the same type of husband that you are to your wife now had you not come in relationship with God? Oh, no, no, I'm not.

Speaker 3:

Reason being too. Again, we wouldn't know how that's right In relationship with God.

Speaker 4:

Oh, no, no, the reason being too Again, we wouldn't know how, we wouldn't know how.

Speaker 3:

That's right, that's right.

Speaker 2:

That's right, and it's so funny Because I couldn't imagine you guys being, you know Anything other than you know the wonderful examples that you are. It's just, that's so foreign to me. Yeah, funny at the same time. But it wouldn't be funny, but that's so foreign to me. I find it fascinating when I get to see me and God in action and everything just seems so automatic. And I know that perfect is not a thing as far as relationship, as being married, but it just looks like such a well-oiled machine, and you know what I'm saying. You can look at some marriages and be like, oh, that's a God-led marriage, that's a God-led husband, that's a God-led wife. And I'll tell you what it does do, coming up, seeing that your taste for men is very particular and you just can't accept anything yeah you just can't accept just anything.

Speaker 2:

So you are looking for. Your palate is very what's the word I'm looking for. Your palate knows what it wants, right About what it's seeing. Yeah.

Speaker 4:

And you need that type of Motivation you do Because A lot of times we make error In making choices. We do and and then, on the other hand, we need to know what we're looking for.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, we do, yeah, we do need to know that, and having that.

Speaker 3:

That it helps you know what you're looking for it does help, you know.

Speaker 2:

It helps. You know. I would say, okay, we did touch this a little bit. It says God lays out the blueprint for the husband To follow. How do you Apply this plan daily, and is there a time where you find it difficult to accomplish?

Speaker 4:

Well, the plan is terrific. We need a plan, but one thing that I see in this passage of scriptures is that, first of all, we are accountable to one another, because when you start reading your scriptures, it was addressed first to the woman, even though you're talking about the man's wife. What is that saying to us? You got to have all these participants to have a successful marriage, to be a successful wife or to be a successful Marriage, to be a successful wife or to be a successful.

Speaker 2:

Husband Absolutely.

Speaker 4:

And the only way that we're going to be in of this. We got to have the word of God again To operate by, because Without that word, we're going to be constantly making errors In our lives. So I feel like, even with the plan that God has made, you got to have all the participants in place.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely. And it's like I know my uncle. He likes to play dominoes and he's somewhere you know in a fish and not a rat. Oh, you play too, Uncle uncle Clay, oh, you learned something new Okay. Okay, then when you playing that game, you have to have that plan in place. You got to have all the pieces.

Speaker 4:

All the pieces got to be in place.

Speaker 2:

Right, absolutely. I'm a person, right. I like to play Trouble with my children and I be like Don't lose those pieces. I'm a person, right, I like to play trouble with my children, and I'd be like ooh, don't lose those pieces, because if a piece is lost I don't even want to play the game.

Speaker 2:

We got to buy a whole new game, so it's very important to have all those pieces in place. I would say this I think about also Hosea when he's married to the woman of Horeb, and I know also that there was a type and shadow of us and God, and how he's remaining faithful to us Despite our infidelity Right. So I find that to be an unconditional love. A man is committed to that love and to the vows that he said, that he made, and still it makes. I'm telling you how my mind works. It makes it jump from scripture to scripture and, you know, just connecting all the dots.

Speaker 2:

It made me think about us being sealed into the day of redemption and how the Lord he's just so, he's so meticulous in reminding us and keeping us and telling us. You know, this is the plan and this plan will work if you work with me, there's nothing wrong with the plan.

Speaker 1:

There's nothing wrong. No, you're preaching good right there and this plan will work. If you work with me, the plan will work.

Speaker 2:

There's nothing wrong. You're preaching good right there. There's nothing wrong with the plan. It's not that the plan is flawed.

Speaker 3:

That's heavy.

Speaker 2:

But when we don't follow that plan, it's just like when you're doing a puzzle Right and you can try to force those pieces to fit, and what's going to happen to that piece? It won't fit. It won't fit, it might break, it might damage that piece, that's right. It might damage the surrounding pieces.

Speaker 2:

Right If you don't follow that plan. You look at the picture so you can see okay, this goes here, right, and that goes there. Yeah, I know that, uncle Clay, you guys are coming up on 50 years. Yes, next year In marriage. Of those times, can you count on your hand, a time when maybe you feel like you know what? I don't really want to Father the plan today?

Speaker 3:

Well, you wanted us to be honest, right.

Speaker 2:

Yes, absolutely, absolutely.

Speaker 3:

Of course, and that is a Tat's job, that's his job, we gotta understand that we're not as he said.

Speaker 3:

We're not perfect, we're not perfect he said, if we walk in the spirit, we will not fulfill the lust of the flesh right okay, so we gotta walk in the spirit but he also said, satan is as a roaring lion seeking whom he may devour, so he's always at work, and because of the fact that God, the marriage, is like the God and the church, he's going to fight it. He's going to fight it, and so it's a continuous battle.

Speaker 2:

It's a continuous battle. So, and that's so, the answer is yes. Yes, it has happened In other words, there will be.

Speaker 4:

In other words, there will be some moments. There will be some moments.

Speaker 2:

And I think that's that's important to say also Right, because you don't want to present Like there's never, issues and things that you can't or that you don't have to overcome. Right, but like you say, see, the scripture is beautiful. Like you say, it went right back to that. You walking out of the spirit, you gonna be good. That's it. That takes me also To the scripture that says we wrestle not against Flesh and blood, that's right. That's it. We don't do it. It's always a spiritual thing. It is First.

Speaker 3:

That's it.

Speaker 2:

And then it's gonna show up Some kind of way Right In the natural. So we have to learn how to take hold of that thing. And Cass, that's the noun Right, you do Go ahead.

Speaker 4:

You know, when we look at this topic again and the plan that he has placed before us, the foundation is love.

Speaker 2:

That's it, that's good right there.

Speaker 4:

Because we're God's love.

Speaker 2:

The foundation is love man.

Speaker 4:

We're not going to do what we're supposed to do no. First of all, we got to love God Right, and that same love has to be exemplified Right In our homes, and that is another test. It is Because, even though, when husbands and wives come together, the Bible declares that we become one.

Speaker 3:

Right.

Speaker 4:

So, and another thing, where God's words teaches us all the time is this the way we treat each other is the way we're treating him Right.

Speaker 3:

That's true, that's what comes out of this.

Speaker 4:

We have to be mindful how we treat each other. Wow, because we don't want to treat our God.

Speaker 2:

No, any kind of way, because he.

Speaker 4:

What did he say? You talking about? You love me, you ain't never seen me.

Speaker 2:

And your wife, right, he's a liar, you never seen me. And the ones right here In front of you, how, how, man, the foundation is love. That's it. The foundation is love. I's it, the foundation is love. I'm going to be taking notes from this. I'm going to have to go back and listen again and get all the goodness With the foundation being love.

Speaker 2:

I'm also reminded of the scripture that he's telling us to love with his love, right. So sometimes I remember telling somebody, and I said, the Lord rebuked me Because I shouldn't have said it. I said, you know what? I'm loving you with the love of Christ, because it sure ain't mine at this moment. I said, lord, I shouldn't have said that, but but you know being in that position. And then, two, I'm telling you, it makes me also think about, okay, when the, the servant, owed the, the king, the master, all that money, right, and you know, he forgave that debt, yes, and then somebody Owed the servant money and he just, he didn't want to Let it go. In comparison, he didn't want to Let it go. In comparison, he ain't want to Let it go. I'm just seeing that Right now as a marriage Message, right, isn't that something. That's it, that is. That is incredible. I'm just seeing that as a marriage message how love really is, especially in a, in a unity, in a covenant Right. I mean all over. Really, it's supposed to be unconditional.

Speaker 4:

It is, you know again, the reason that love is so important, because the scripture says this love covers.

Speaker 2:

Love covers A multitude, a multitude Of problems.

Speaker 3:

Right.

Speaker 4:

We're going to have problems.

Speaker 3:

That's what we are In our marriage. We are.

Speaker 4:

But there's no perfect marriage. There's not, and so we are constantly Working on perfection.

Speaker 2:

Right Love covers a multitude Of problems.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Issues of attitudes, yes, of miscommunication, right, and I'm also Thinking about this scripture that you know, that lets us know that Christ is our, our high priest, that ever lived, and even with the position and responsibilities of the priest, it's also said that the husband is the high priest of that home.

Speaker 3:

That's it.

Speaker 2:

So tell us more about what that looks like also.

Speaker 3:

What that looks like also Basically like the husband, is to be the one, the first partaker Of the scripture, and to set the example. That's what it's all about Is being that example For the house.

Speaker 2:

The first partaker and that when we think about the word partaker I'm usually thinking I don't know why that makes me think about eating pie, right, like the first person to eat the pie, really. But in this sense, the first partaker is the one who's doing the sacrificing the most. I can't, I can't show my tail because I'm the first partaker of it. I'm supposed to be leading this house a certain way, right, and so that's not just about me. And first, and that makes me think about the scripture that says the first shall be last and the last shall be first.

Speaker 2:

Okay, and as far as like sacrifices that the high priest made and you know we're thinking about it Back in the day, when the priest, they had to live a certain way Right, or they were going to die, that's it, they was going to die. You went past a certain point In the Holy of Holies and if you wasn't right, you was going to die, you was going to pass away, physically. Die Right Isn, that's a sacrifice, to be living upright, to be living perfect. It is that's why they had the ropes tied around that, that that priest, because they couldn't go in, they couldn't even go past it, they were gonna have to pull them out. That's right, but even even so, with this, what would you say would be the most challenging? And I didn't send this? And what has been the most challenging part About being a godly husband? Or is there a challenging part?

Speaker 4:

Well, there's always A challenge, because Another passage of scripture Says this Our God made us Unique and different.

Speaker 3:

Right.

Speaker 4:

And those differences, they come, come, and that's where the problem is. Right. God made us unique and different Right and those differences come, and that's where the problem is Right, that's it. And I think that's why God said another word. He said, even when they come, they sit down Just sit there, that's it, talk about it.

Speaker 3:

Communication.

Speaker 4:

That's it and I'm constantly telling people. It does not clarify who is right and who wrong, but what is the best approach?

Speaker 2:

That we should be taking Right.

Speaker 4:

It don't matter who it come from.

Speaker 2:

Right, and what do the words say? What does the words say? This might whoop somebody on tonight, but it help you get in line. It's whooping me and I'm not even married yet, but I feel like I'd be a lot years ahead if I take heed to what's been said and what's been already taught to me and shown to me and that's on me. Why would I deviate from the plan? It wouldn't make no sense at all. I deviate from the plan. It wouldn't make no sense at all. But I also want to know, in relationship with God, was that a factor in you choosing who your helpmate would be? Did you know? Or was that something that you just did on your own?

Speaker 3:

No, it was definitely a factor, because the Bible tells us that he who findeth a wife findeth a good thing and obtain favor of the Lord. And it tells us also be not unequally yoked with one another. You can't be unequally yoked with the unbeliever and expect you to have a good marriage. And so and that is the scripture the plan is there. So if we go according to the plan, then you can have a successful marriage. Even despite the problems that might arise in the marriage, if you go according to the plan always go back to the plan you can have a successful marriage. That's it. That's a beautiful thing.

Speaker 4:

Another thing requirements. There are requirements that you have to meet.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 4:

Okay, even say for the husband to be loving his wife and all that kind of stuff. But the wife got to be there for her in love Right.

Speaker 2:

What is the?

Speaker 4:

requirement you got to submit yourself to your husband. Like Brother Young just said, it's all about what the scripture says, how our life would turn out. Yes, sir, and what pattern that we follow? What plan?

Speaker 3:

And also the thing that helps the wife be able to submit herself to her husband is the love that he manifests. That's it.

Speaker 2:

That's an important part. As you said love.

Speaker 3:

That is an important part as we look at Christ and the church. Yeah, he loves. He made the ultimate sacrifice.

Speaker 2:

Ultimate sacrifice.

Speaker 3:

So that's what he's expecting that husband to do To love his wife so much that he's willing to make that sacrifice.

Speaker 2:

Let's talk about that.

Speaker 4:

Hey when he made that statement to us, he wanted us to do it just like he did.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 4:

Because there are a lot. Look at us as Christians that we waver sometimes.

Speaker 1:

Yes, but he never withdraw from us he didn't, he didn't.

Speaker 4:

He's always still right. Look at us as Christians that we waver sometimes, yeah, but he never leave, he never. He never waver Withdraw from us. He didn't Right, he didn't.

Speaker 2:

He's always still right there, still right there and still loving on us. That's right In marriages.

Speaker 4:

You're going to have those type of breaks and that husband love Should have to be so strong. Oh yeah, and it'll help him Overcome that battle, right. That'll help them overcome that battle Right.

Speaker 2:

Now, that's delicious right there. That's the part that I feel like needs to be known as well, and I was going to ask y'all about the Ultimate sacrifice. I saw a podcast Not too long ago when it said Men tend to Run from the woman that they know Is the one, and he said because of this and I don't know if he was a believer or not, but he said because he, he, he realized he found the one that he would die for and that scared him, yeah, and so he didn't want that type of responsibility yet.

Speaker 2:

So he ran away. He was like, oh man, when I at her, I just want to give her everything she need. I can just see myself dying for her, you know. And he said that was what turned him away, you know, for a little while but you know, essentially he came on back around and got his good thing.

Speaker 2:

But I found that so funny and I never thought about that, because we as women, we don't necessarily that's not necessarily a forefront thought we do think that we want to be protected and we want to know that you will, you know, do your all to protect us and, you know, have a good life with you. But I didn't, you know, for whatever reason, it just made it very, very clear to me what, you know, the way of being a husband and a father Really is, and I knew it. But, you know, just like hearing somebody say that he was like oh man.

Speaker 4:

And you know when we go back to the script again, we are representing Christ.

Speaker 2:

That's it.

Speaker 4:

What did he do for all of us?

Speaker 2:

What did he do for us all? He died for us, that's it. Or what did he do?

Speaker 4:

for all of us, right. What did he?

Speaker 2:

do for us all. He died for us. That's it.

Speaker 4:

All right if it's necessary for me to die for my wife.

Speaker 2:

Right.

Speaker 4:

And no sense in me being afraid of that. And look how easy that came out of him.

Speaker 2:

And with ease. You were just so settled. Both of y'all are settled in that reality, or In that reality, or you know that it's not an issue for you. That's down, it's like my eyes water.

Speaker 4:

That's so beautiful to know, just like Christ loved the church.

Speaker 2:

Right, just like.

Speaker 3:

Just like it. He said Never. He said, father, let this cup pass for me, nevertheless, not as I will, but I will.

Speaker 2:

So you have found yourself Saying that in the marriage sometimes oh yeah, oh, this cup right here.

Speaker 4:

Nevertheless, we try to get to a window or a door or something.

Speaker 1:

Nevertheless, I'm going to follow the plan Right, isn't that something?

Speaker 2:

Now, how often? Well, I ain't going to say how often, but how quickly. How quickly do you feel reconciliation Inside that marriage, when we had a little tip or whatever, when we finally get to the plan?

Speaker 3:

Through prayer it comes Much.

Speaker 4:

Prayer, yes, through prayer it comes much prayer yes and another thing it's hard to put a time frame on right it is it has to run its course right and eventually we'll get back to that oh yeah, because, again, we're going to address it through God's word. Right, we're going to do just like you said. Yes, we got a bickering. We're going to address it Through God's word. We're going to do just like you said yes, we got a bickering. We're going to sit down and we're going to talk about this.

Speaker 2:

That also reminds me of the scripture. You said you have an art with your brother and I know it says brother right there. But I know that could be related to anything. Yes, hey, I have this issue right here. I didn't like how that went down Right there. I didn't, you know, appreciate that. But let's sit down, let's commune about it.

Speaker 2:

Let's go ahead and fix this thing. We get to see that and I always go. It's just so many examples. The word of God Is saturated, right With his unconditional love and all these types of shadows. I think about the prodigal son. He loves this man so much. He's looking for him that's right and waiting. He's looking at the horizon and waiting. Ran to this man. He ain't worried about how he smell, or nothing.

Speaker 3:

He didn't think about that.

Speaker 2:

And the man tells him you know, daddy, I just come back as a servant. He don't even address that part of what he said he so he loved his wife so much. He ignores that part.

Speaker 3:

Oh yeah.

Speaker 2:

And he restored him Physically. He was always His son in his heart, so I find that, you know, just beautiful. We get to see All these.

Speaker 4:

Beautiful examples. I think that's a great example too, when you go to the father Of the son's father.

Speaker 2:

Yes, sir.

Speaker 4:

Because he was a Representative of Christ.

Speaker 2:

Yes, absolutely Think about this man.

Speaker 4:

This man, a man of authority, got power, got people that work for him, even though he was Looking for his son to come back. He could have had somebody else Looking right, but the Bible said the daddy was I ain't even See that is delicious.

Speaker 3:

He could have had Somebody else out there.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, look at how personal he took you though that's his baby.

Speaker 4:

It was his son. Same thing with our God Right when it comes to us.

Speaker 3:

He's still looking for us. He's still looking for us.

Speaker 2:

Right, the word says he's seeking such a worship. But it also takes me back to when he was looking for that, the one little lost of the 99. Right, he went searching himself. Like you said, that's a beautiful point. He could have sent other people to look. Right, he went to look for himself, for his own self. Right, that's beautiful. That's a beautiful revelation, jesus. See, I'm definitely going to have to go back and write all these things down. I'm trying to get a little bit here and there, but I'm going to have to really go back and study out all these accounts.

Speaker 3:

And even though we started with the 22nd verse, the 21st verse it said submitting to one another in the fear of god, in the fear of god. So that's what makes it possible is that it's the fear of god.

Speaker 2:

One another in the fear of god. I need my highlighter expounded on uh.

Speaker 3:

in the 21st verse it says submitting one to another. Paul here made a transition and introduced his teaching about specific relationship of authority and submission among Christians Among Christians, by declaring unequivocally that every spirit-filled Christian is to be humble, submissive Christian. This is the fundamental to all the relationships in this action. No believer is inherently superior to any other believer in their standing before God. They are equal in every way. That's delicious.

Speaker 4:

And you know, when we went back to that 21st verse? Yes, sir, we saw the requirements, the requirements right there. Fear.

Speaker 2:

Yes, of God.

Speaker 4:

Of God.

Speaker 3:

Right.

Speaker 4:

See, and that's what's lacking in homes, that is.

Speaker 3:

That's what's lacking in our churches.

Speaker 4:

In this world, mm-hmm, we don't have the fear of God anymore, right, and that's why we're going haywire Doing everything else but what we should, out of order.

Speaker 2:

And we can see the consequences. Oh yeah, we can see it in all kinds of ways. We can see that. It also takes me back to the children of Israel. These are God's people and he consecrated to himself. And how Like he. That's a beautiful revelation submitting one another in the fear of God. As long as they were following that plan that God had for them, they was overcoming all kinds of things, they were, they were successful and we can only say that it was God it is.

Speaker 2:

You mean I can walk around the building and blow a trumpet and win the city? That's right. And they talked about how fortified these forts was, and all I had to do was walk around and shout and I'm tearing it down and trust God, and he's doing that.

Speaker 2:

And that's what I have to do To overcome just partnering with God Right, that's it. And as long do To overcome Just partner with God Right. And as long as they were Working with that plan, they was good, they was successful, even in the wilderness. They was out of order In the wilderness, right, they didn't even have to Be there that long, but he still was keeping them. They wasn't.

Speaker 1:

They closed.

Speaker 2:

When they would get old Right and they wouldn't believe and they had to die off, until you got to a group that was new but without faith, it's impossible, it's impossible.

Speaker 2:

It's impossible. And when I was young I used to hear that scripture. I don't even know If I knew what faith Necessarily was. I felt like it was this thing Like this accessory and pleasing God Like I got to make sure necessarily was. I felt like it was this thing like this accessory and and pleasing god, like I gotta make sure that maybe I'm making, just say, I'm making a sandwich and I gotta make this sandwich perfectly to please him. But what I realized? He says that because he can't do anything outside of our faith, right he can't do it as far as what.

Speaker 2:

That's right. He can't do it as far as what we want, as far as the plan that he want for us. The plan is already predestined, oh yeah. But if we don't follow that plan, we don't get in faith and our works don't commit to that faith that we have in him. He can't do it. It goes back to when he said he'd rather you be hot or cold. It look warm. I got to spit. I can't touch it because the faith isn't there. When we see the woman with the issue of blood, first thing he tells her he called her daughter because of her faith. You know how strong that declaration is. We see that with the daddy too, how he would go to the next to protect his children. He called her daughter.

Speaker 3:

And you said, like you said, the woman with the issue of blood. It was so many people around him, so many people.

Speaker 2:

That's right, but he felt her faith. He felt her faith, he felt her faith, and that's what moved him. That's what moved him and that's what fully healed her. Oh, yeah. He told her she was made whole. We saw where people was getting healed.

Speaker 4:

Not just healed.

Speaker 2:

Not just healed but whole. We saw where people was getting healed and the scripture said, as they went, they were getting healed. But this girl Made whole right away Because he said what it's according to our what Our faith, and it pleases him to benefit us. Because of our faith he's able to do the thing. He's able to move the mountain with our faith. But we don't have faith. Not because he don't have the ability. We even saw in the scripture where he went to that town and he wanted to heal all those people but because of their unbelief he couldn't do it. Not because he didn't have the power to do it, but because their faith wasn't in position.

Speaker 4:

You know we're living in a day now when all those words that you just got through quoting- it's been tested.

Speaker 2:

It is.

Speaker 4:

Because people say they got faith in God, but because of what is going on in the earth realm, they're worried, they're worried right. If you go worried, it's a sign that your faith is very weak. Who do you have your faith?

Speaker 2:

in who do you have your faith in? Whose report?

Speaker 4:

Our faith says to us that we trust our God in spite of whatever come up against us. Not only that, we believe what his word says and what he says in his word he said no matter where I, thomas, wherever you find yourself, I'm right there with you.

Speaker 2:

I'm right there with you.

Speaker 4:

So why you got to be worried about things. You know what I'm saying. I never leave you, nor do I forsake you. That's right. I promise to meet all your needs. Why don't you, if you got that faith in him? Right, I ain't got to worry about money.

Speaker 2:

I ain't got to worry.

Speaker 4:

I tell people all the time I say anything that I Even financial way Matters, it's his bill.

Speaker 1:

Right.

Speaker 4:

It's his bill.

Speaker 2:

I remember, looking at my mortgage, I said Lord, whenever you ready to pay.

Speaker 4:

I ain't going to put no limit on you For all these things. The thing is that we have to do these things.

Speaker 2:

You have to do it. You can't just be here. You got to be doers. You got to be doers of it.

Speaker 4:

Paul always gave us the good and the bad.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, he did.

Speaker 1:

The sweet things and stuff.

Speaker 2:

But he told us hey, you got to do all these things, you got to do it, you got to be in line with it. And we even see that With the different types of ground, we see that I feel like that's a Faith message too, or a lack of faith message too, the stony ground Just wasn't going to work Right. To me that's an unwavering faith or unbelief, but that good ground, that's a faith filled ground.

Speaker 1:

It is. That's a faith-filled ground right there.

Speaker 2:

And going back to what you said about the enemy trying to take it, that's okay, because we're still going to talk about faith. We saw where, even with Mary, the mother of Jesus, it has to take faith for immaculate conception. And we saw her faith when she said may it be unto me, as you have said, that was her full faith. We even see that with Abraham and Sarah. At first they didn't work in faith and look what they created Right and Ishmael. That the two, the two descendants of Of them, Ishmael and Isaac, are still At war with each other. That's right.

Speaker 2:

Created a whole, a whole nother nation that now they even still are battling Right. Isn't that something Right? But when they got in faith For what God really said and who he told Was going to, was going to have the promise, then we have Isaac. But as long as they was out of faith and out of that plan, they created something Right.

Speaker 2:

They had created something and it wasn't according to the plan and he couldn't be. He couldn't be the one. They had to get rid of him and send him out Right Then, be the one they had to get rid of him and send him out. Then they created all this inside the boy's heart. The lady was scared. What about me and my son? Look at all that. Outside the plan, deviating from the plan, we got a mess, got a mess on our hands.

Speaker 3:

We get outside of God's plan, we get outside of it.

Speaker 2:

We take. I was telling my children you guys think that the rules are here to keep you from doing something. It's to keep you from messing up.

Speaker 2:

Right when we look at the word of God and we look at his plan a lot of times, especially when the world life or the sin, sin life, before you get in a relationship With God. It just seems so enticing, right, and it feels so real and like you know, why would I give this up? I can do what I want to do, but it's for protection, right? Oh yeah, and we go back and even just looking at the Ten Commandments, that was for protection.

Speaker 3:

Right.

Speaker 2:

And a lot of the messages that we made, we wouldn't have had to make them.

Speaker 3:

That's it, even though it looks so good and enticing, even though it looks so good.

Speaker 2:

There is no peace there, god. There's no peace In our sins.

Speaker 3:

We can't have peace. There is no peace, and that's the most important part Of being in Christ, that's it.

Speaker 2:

It's the peace of God. It's the peace of God. And they say you can't even Describe that peace.

Speaker 3:

No, it's a peace that's a Pass of all understanding.

Speaker 2:

It's a peace that's a Pass of all understanding that finite mind Ain't gonna get it Right. You can see people have done, have dealt with Some of the most Horrific things, but you can just see the peace.

Speaker 3:

Resting on them Right.

Speaker 2:

And you wanna know what it is and how they can say is it's a, it's a piece of god, and they do pass. I don't understand it but there's no, there's no peace. That's why, if you, if you think about it, when we're, when we're in sin, it feels good, tastes good, smell good, whatever. But you need more and more because there's no it's no satisfaction. It's a hungry beast and it's going to devour you. You think you're devouring it?

Speaker 3:

It's going to devour you Every time.

Speaker 2:

Every time. But we get inside of that plan, we don't have to worry about it. The scripture is clear to us still, in Psalms 91 them fiery darts Going to be quenched. You're under the shadow Of the most high God, that's right. A thousand may fall At your right, ten thousand, I mean. A thousand may fall At your side, ten thousand at your. But it ain't gonna touch you. It should not come. Now you Going back to the, to the children of Israel, when they was out there In their wilderness, as long as they was Fighting the plan, they was good, they got out of it. Scorpions Right Things. It ain't even that the scorpion wasn't always there, but the protection was there because they were under the will, they was following the plan.

Speaker 4:

Because of the withdrawal from the plan.

Speaker 2:

Didn't even make it and it was promised to them. It was, it was promised to them and it was not. Because it didn't happen, because God didn't keep his promise Right, they didn't stay in the plan.

Speaker 4:

They didn't do what. They didn't meet the requirements. They didn't meet the requirements.

Speaker 2:

Of that plan To receive that promise. It's not that it wasn't theirs and it sounds so foolish.

Speaker 3:

But we do it all the time.

Speaker 2:

Every time we step outside of the plan of God, anytime. Anytime we get out of fellowship, we run that race. It's just not worth it. It's just not worth it. The next point that we have it says the bridegroom lays out the order of things as it concerns his most prized position, which is family. What are the consequences of this order and not following God's plan as a leader in the home?

Speaker 3:

The consequences is that home will be divided. That's the consequences. You can't have a peace. You don't have a peace in that home because you're not doing it according to God's divine plan. That's it and that's. The only way to have peace in that home is to follow God's divine plan. And if you follow that plan, everyone do their part according to the plan. That's what makes everything function properly.

Speaker 4:

That's it.

Speaker 3:

According to the plan, that's what makes everything function properly.

Speaker 4:

That's it. Another thing when we accept His plan that is based up on His Word, we ain't got no problems. One thing we got a great foundation on us, first of all. And then we're going to follow the Word of God. We're going to waver again, but God is always right there waiting on us to come back. The word of God, which we're going to waver again, yeah, but God is always right there waiting on us to come back, right See, I tell people, hey, even being saved, you can err sometimes.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, right.

Speaker 4:

But what are the requirements for error and getting back to God?

Speaker 2:

Repent, repent Turn from that thing Right.

Speaker 4:

So when we do just what his word said, like Brother Young said, we don't have no problem.

Speaker 2:

It's simple.

Speaker 4:

Even everyday life. I know we're talking about a specific subject, yes, sir, but when we don't obey God's word and do what his word says, god will always be in trouble. I don't care where you are. You are Home or out the home, right Husband or wife? Nah, you're always going to be in trouble, I think another good plan for this thing to work to use words, to work in our marriage is that when we become one, just like the scripture said, when we got married, we became one.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 4:

And what that mean, our God. We became one, yeah, and what that mean, our God is a God Of unity, of unity. And when we got the vision, he's not part of it.

Speaker 3:

Every even word.

Speaker 2:

We even see that, and Some of you and I have talked about this before, but we even see that, even in disobedience, if unity is there, whatever that evil plan is we hate to say it.

Speaker 4:

That's what's going to prevail.

Speaker 1:

That's what's going to prevail why.

Speaker 2:

Because they're working a biblical principle of unity. We saw that it's clear to us. You might say, no, you're out of order. No, it's in the word of God. When those people Were building that tower, they felt like they wanted To get to heaven. It was happening Right. They was, they was right there. So much, so much love, like let's see, and I got to divide it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I got to divvy this thing up.

Speaker 2:

Cause he said that people Is one, and even I think it's fascinating too right, because you know, I love, I love english, I love literature, all the above and the people is one sounds like a grammatical error yeah but it speaks to how one and how unified these people are.

Speaker 2:

The people is one, because you would say he is or she is right. You don't say People, you don't say she are One mind, that's how one, that's it, that's how much, how strong this unity was With these people. It made Singular influence. You know what I'm saying. You don't say he are, he are there, he is, they is one. The people is one. We even see that. We see it again. When he talked about the fruit of the spirit, he said the fruit of the spirit Is love, right, joy, peace. You got more than one thing Right, but it's presented as one. These are all the things that should come out of that. The fruit of the spirit, right, we like to. You know, grammar buffs like to say the fruit of the spirit, right, we like to. You know, grammar buffs Like to say the fruit of the spirit Are Because it's one.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, the fruit of the spirit Is. It's one. It's one thing All these parts, but it's one thing, goes back to the body. All these memories, but it's one thing, right. You don't see. If you see a body and the parts are separated, that's death. Yeah, right, even if a part of that body Is still alive, that part that is separated Is death. And if all the pieces Are separated, there ain't no life in that, right, ain't no life in that it goes back to the plan. We call that body Decapitated. We call it what else is it when they Sever the body and cut it up into pieces. You know what I mean. But if we apply that to our lives and what the Word says, we don't want a decapitated life, no, right, we don't want pieces everywhere. A severed life, we don't want that.

Speaker 4:

And that's why we need the unity, because we want God's blessing constantly flowing on us.

Speaker 2:

Yes, we do and we connect. If we connect ourselves to the God of the Bible and the scriptures say the oil flows from the head, we might as well get under the oil of the Lord. Right, we might as well get under that, because we know the benefits, we know the safety, we know the protection, we know the limits that he would go to for us. And just connecting yourself to something that's dead, that sounds crazy. And if you're trying to marry a dead body, what is it called? It starts with an N Necromancycy, and we see you Married to a dead body. We gonna be concerned. We know something is wrong.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, it is.

Speaker 2:

We might as well Commit to life. We know it's a mental issue, there's a break somewhere Right In reality, but that's what our lives Look like when we don't. We don't follow that plan, amen. We committed ourselves To a dead thing. That's why the word come in. Say when you say you have he quick and who was dead? Right your sins. I would be concerned when I see somebody Walking around with a dead body. Oh, this is my wife. Yeah, this is my husband, this is my. It just don't work. So we shouldn't commit ourselves to, uh, to a dead thing. You know.

Speaker 3:

So, speaking of the husband, is the head of the wife and also, as christ is the head of the church, he is the savior of the body, the spirit field. Wife recognizes that her husband role in giving leadership is not only a god ordained Mm-hmm in hell. So the husband provides for protection, preserves and loves his wife, leading her to blessings as she submits. That's it.

Speaker 4:

That's the order again.

Speaker 2:

That's the order. That's the order. It makes me think about Psalm 23. Psalm 23. Look at all the benefits of committing ourselves, of being in covenant with Christ, right, green pastures. Sounds good to me, that's life, that's the life, and we talk A lot of people talk In the midst of my enemies.

Speaker 4:

In the midst of my enemies.

Speaker 2:

You still good. The scriptures say You'll make your enemies your footstool. That's right You'll make your enemies.

Speaker 2:

Your footstool, that's right, you'll make your enemies your footstool. It makes me think about and see, the Bible is just so delicious to me Because again, it proves itself over and over. It makes me think about Rahab, and when the people of God, the men of God, was coming into the city, we wouldn't necessarily say that they were enemies, but they were not of the same people, right, and they could have been seen as enemies because they were going here to take over these people's land, right, but look at God use.

Speaker 2:

That's right and that lady was a footstool to them, but because of it she got with the right plan. She said hey, she knew, she knew Right. She said hey, she knew, she knew Right.

Speaker 3:

And it was to the Savings of her house. She saw it Everywhere else they went. They were victorious. They were victorious.

Speaker 2:

Everywhere else they went. That girl said I'm getting with the right plan, I don't know my job. I'm getting with this plan Right To the savings of her house, everybody that was Under their roof.

Speaker 3:

That's right.

Speaker 2:

They was kept man, but it's important. A roof, that's right, they was kept man, but it's important. It's important To get into, into the right plan. That's it. There may be Some husbands who out here who have not Come across the truth and are not Living out the truth and, like you, are uncles. How would you encourage them? I know this whole episode really is an encouragement, pointing to what you should do, because we see the benefits of it. But for somebody who's still on the fence, what is a point of encouragement that you would drive home to them if they find themselves outside of the plan of God?

Speaker 3:

Submitting to the will of God and studying the word of God and accepting God's word as the guidance for your life. And you accept God's word, then it will cause you, enable you to be able to do what the scripture tells. He said in 25,. He said, husband, love your wife, just as Christ also loved the church and gave himself for it, love your wife through the husband. Though the husband authority has been established, the emphasis moved to the superior responsibility of husbands in regards to their wives, which is to love them with the same unreserved, selfless and sacrificial love that Christ has for his church. Christ gave him everything he had, including his own life, for the sake of his church, and that is the standard of sacrifice for a husband's love for his wife.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely, absolutely. He set the standard.

Speaker 3:

He said it.

Speaker 4:

And we fail to be in that. Within that standard, you can't be successful.

Speaker 2:

You can't be successful, you won't be triumphant, you won't be victorious.

Speaker 3:

That's right. You can't.

Speaker 2:

And what we think Is success Is not necessarily A successful Godly marriage.

Speaker 4:

No, so the Advice that we can give Just follow the plan of God.

Speaker 2:

That's it. Follow the plan Simple.

Speaker 4:

And you can't fail Simple and direct. You can't fail Simple and direct you can't fail.

Speaker 2:

Mm-mm, you can't fail. Well, I hope tonight has been an encouragement to both men and women yeah, to know the position that they have in Christ, to know that they can be triumphant in that position. And a lot of times people tend not to go with God because they feel like their plan is better. I mean because, be honest, in your natural mind, who wants to love their enemies? And that feels like you getting the short end of the stick right who wants to bless those that curse you? It feels like you're getting the short end of the stick, but the scripture is clear you read what you sow. That's it. You read what you sow.

Speaker 4:

And then we're still following the plan of.

Speaker 2:

God and we're still following the plan of God, because he loves us in spite of us, in spite of us, like we said while we were yet in sin Christ died for us.

Speaker 4:

That agape, love Agape. I allow you to love, no matter who it is, and that's what God used for us. He loved us in spite of us, in spite of man.

Speaker 2:

I've done some things, and had it been me looking at me, I would have dipped Easy.

Speaker 4:

Easy. There's nothing that can stop our God's love, no matter what we do. That's right. He's going to love us In spite of what we do. But what I try to get over to people that love period is going to run out. Right In that period you need to be getting your life straight. Oh yeah, you need to start following the plan of God In your marriages and your life period so you'll be in the right place when that time comes.

Speaker 2:

That's right, that's right.

Speaker 4:

I tell people in church a lot. I say God, the very same thing that I just said Nothing you can do to stop him from loving you. But you better realize the fact that that love, this loving God, will usher you to the gates of hell. Open it, and that's going to be the gates of hell. Open it and that's going to be the end of you with him.

Speaker 2:

And you don't make that choice. You don't make that choice to get under his love, and the choice is ours. The choice is up to us. And the thing is, why would you want to go to a place that was not even designed for you? The scripture is clear he made hell for Satan. That's right. Why you want to be in a place that you weren't even supposed to originally be? That's right. And all you have to do is make the decision to be in relationship with him.

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And the sad indictment is, when we look at the scripture, more going to hell than going to heaven.

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It is.

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Because the Bible says hell is in the Lord's hands. But it never said, where heaven was.

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Isn't that something?

Speaker 4:

That indicates that more of us going to hell than to heaven.

Speaker 1:

And why would? I want to live in all this hell that I'm going through right now and die and go to hell and go to hell.

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This is a dwelling place in which we are in right now, but one of two eternal places we're going to wind up One of two and so hey got to follow the plan of God and I tell people this, I tell people this we always say eternal life, but eternal life in the sense that we think one will end and the other eternal life with the Lord.

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You're going to live forever somewhere.

Speaker 1:

Right.

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So you still going to have Something that's eternal, but you want it to be life, eternal life and not eternal Eternal death.

Speaker 1:

But isn't that?

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something, that scripture, where it says, like you said, hell has enlarged herself. That girl making room.

Speaker 1:

That was not even supposed to be there.

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These motherfuckers had to add on. Space that is insane that is insane.

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I would that people would take that Example Of those words and make sure that you don't be on that path. Right? I'm not going to help her make room Because, essentially, you are subject to being in hell more than you are in hell, isn't?

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that something, but I'm going to choose the well. I've chosen the streets of gold Right. Why would I not the mansion?

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You know another thing About this love thing Love is a verb.

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It is Action verb.

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That's it.

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It'll be.

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You got the love, you got the love Got the show.

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But that's the scripture. Is clear too They'll know us by our love.

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Right.

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Because we supposed to be Reflecting the love of God, right? And how can they Believe? Have they not seen it? Some of them, that is on this we not showing the love of God, right, people not seeing it. How they gonna believe? How they believe. But I hope this episode has been encouraging In so many ways.

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Oh yeah, to getting that plan Getting inside of the plan is there For everyone. It's not just for A particular person, a particular group of people and we see If that was the case. We see God going In the form, in the body of Jesus, going outside of that anyway. He did that with With the Samaritan woman. These people were not supposed to be Associated with them in any way. He went right to her and then she went to those other people and said come see a man and look at all those souls. So we know, the scripture proves this Over and over again. He said come to me. All that's not exclusive, that's all inclusive. So we just have to make the decision To become part of that plan and to live that plan out. It's very important To our spiritual lives as well as our natural lives.

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Also.

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Speaking of the marriage it said. In this, it said, Paul reinforced the divine plan for marriage which glued or cemented together, emphasizing the permanence of the union.

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That's beautiful, Emphasizing the permanence of the union. God doesn't. He doesn't do a thing that has temporary results.

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To death do us part.

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A unit, the thing needs to be ringing and raining in our homes. Yes, because, again, when we are divided, god is not a part of, he's not a God of division.

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He's not.

Speaker 4:

He's a God of unity, unity.

Speaker 2:

He's not. He's not a God of unity, he's not. He's not a God of division, he's a God of unity, and that's a beautiful thing.

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Yes, it is.

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We can know that he wants all of us.

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When we find ourselves Getting at each other, we better sit down and get quiet so we can come back together Right, so God can continue to pour out his blessing.

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That's right Now, that's right. That's a different perspective. That's right, that's a different perspective and it's a true perspective. So that's not even necessarily a natural reconciliation. That's for the flow of spiritual blessings that turn into natural victims, right, that's incredible. It makes me think about you know how they have those, those marbles? They be racing down that little track or whatever. Yeah, as long as that track is there, those marbles can go Right. But as soon as there's A separation or an ending, they stop Right. They ain't got nowhere else To go. Got to follow that plan, they say. Follow the Yellow brick road, you'll reach your destination.

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Right.

Speaker 2:

And I believe they got that from the Bible. The streets Paved with gold. It's called the yellow brick road. But I have enjoyed my uncles on tonight and it's so funny what I notice about the men. They're direct, it's not fluff. Uncles on tonight and it's so funny what I notice about the men, they're direct, it's not fluff, it just is what it is Getting to playing and I think that's important. Sometimes we don't need that fluff, just do.

Speaker 4:

It is what Nike say we got to deal with our mind span.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but just do it. I have enjoyed my Uncle's on tonight, so I'm thankful For you guys coming in.

Speaker 3:

Oh, we enjoy it.

Speaker 2:

Being with your niece, taking out your time To impart such a An amazing word, such an important word, to the hearts of believers. Anything else you wanna you wanna close us out with? That's it. That's it. Well, we do want to take this opportunity to present to you guys the way to have relationship with the Lord. I know we talked about coming into relationship. We talked about receiving God for ourselves. We also want to present that moment for you. Which one of my uncles want to cast a net? Which one of y'all want to cast a net, uncle? To lead somebody into a relationship with God?

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When we study our God's word, we know what his requirements are. I often say and the Bible has declared as being a mirror how do you find where you are in your Christian walk or where you should be? It's by guarding your life by the word of God, and when we get to that place where we are not in the right place, just submit ourselves to him, ask him for help, because he's waiting with open arms to correct things in our lives, to take care of us, because he wants us to live forever with him, that's right.

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That's why he did what he did with his son. That's why, see, our God is a foreknowing God and the evidence is when the Bible states that, before there was a foundation of the world, our God sacrificed his son. Yeah, which meant that we were going to come here all messed up, y'all Mm-hmm. But we don't have to stay messed up.

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We don't have to stay.

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Because our Jesus came into this earth for him. And then he did some things for us that we could not do. So what are we going to do now? We're going to accept just what our Jesus did that's right and get on the right page with our God so we can reign with him. Go to that place where Jesus said in John 14, go on to prepare a place for us. And I'm often telling people it was more than one place prepared. God didn't leave out the sinners. He covered the sinners as well. He just affair to all of us. But you have a choice. That's what I love about my God. He gives us the pros and cons of life. And then he said not, the ball is in your court. Choose. And I'm saying to you tonight the ball is in your court. My Lord.

Speaker 4:

It's your time to make your choice. If you want peace in your home, husbands and wives, follow the plan of God, yeah, yeah, hmm, choose you this day.

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And I don't know anybody who doesn't want to be victorious, right, who doesn't want to be triumphant, oh yeah, and the scripture is clear. It's easy, y'all. It's a no-brainer, it's what the children say. Get inside of that plan. Get inside of the plan.

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We got to realize the fact, too, that we can always be in the balance. We always talk about how often our God is busy 24-7. That other boy is busy 24-7.

Speaker 2:

He do be busy.

Speaker 4:

That boy be busy, and he's the one who's angry. He's angry Because, see, we came in here. It is the Bible says we were the bronzes of the devil.

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He said the devil was our daddy. He said you are your father.

Speaker 4:

He said your daddy is the devil. He said the devil was our daddy.

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He said you have your father. He said your daddy is the devil.

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But God came and took us out that hand.

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And the reason?

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because we had nothing to do with it, had nothing to do with it, made us a part of his family.

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He made us a part of his family.

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The church.

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The scriptures say by one y'all was all messed up and buy another one, you can be redeemed.

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That's it.

Speaker 2:

He can make it happen. I say this all the time. We think about a basketball team. Right, you have star players and you have bench warmers. But guess what? When those star players win? Guess who win. Also, them bench warmers Everybody that's connected to that team win and that's a Bible principle. I don't even know if they realize that that's a Bible principle.

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We want to be making all the schools Right.

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But Jesus is so beautiful that we don't have to, because we couldn't have did it anyway.

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He was included.

Speaker 2:

He was included already in the plan of redemption. I like being accepted into the beloved. Oh yeah, he was included. He was included already in the plan of redemption. That's it. I like being accepted into the beloved.

Speaker 4:

Oh yeah, that's another reason why we ought to be working on getting our life right, because, see, everything about our life was already in place before we got here, it was already in place. And the only way that it won't come up on us is we don't do what God tells us to do, we don't do it.

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We don't do what God tells us to do. We don't do it. We don't choose that path. And the scripture is clear he's given us the way of escape. We can escape from a life of sin. We can escape from that dead life. He's given us a way of escape. Take the escape, take the route. It makes no sense when we come up on a GPS and something has happened, that GPS is going to let you know hey, detour. And if you decide not to detour, you're going to come up on that stuff.

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You might be stuck in traffic three hours. You never know. You might even feel a part of the collision. Might be in the collision, god forbid. Take their way of escape. People Take their way of escape. People Take their way of escape. But we have enjoyed my uncles on tonight. I hope that you have enjoyed this episode. Listen again and again. The scripture says hearing and hearing. You got to hear more than one time, that's right.

Speaker 2:

So you can get that full flavor up, flavor up out of there. If you ever see Connoisseurs of food and wine and stuff like this, they do a lot, they don't just Eat it that one time they got to smell and twirl it around and All that. I saw a video of a man who was an ice cream Taster and all the things that he was preparing to do Just to taste that ice cream. He would put it In a certain place On his tongue Just to get the full flavors. But we can do that With the word of God. Keep doing it, keep approaching it, keep listening. It never runs out.

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It says Faith come by hearing, and hearing the word of God. That's right, which means Somebody's got to be saying something.

Speaker 2:

Somebody's got to be saying something. You can't be quiet. You've got to be saying something, but we will see you guys next time. Don't forget to like and share. Share with your family and friends, and especially your enemies. That's the word of God. Bless them In Jesus' name. We'll see you guys next time. Okay, god bless you.