Somethin' Like Sunday School
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Somethin' Like Sunday School
Area P31, Part 2
What if Proverbs 31 isn’t a guilt trip, but a growth path? We take the most-quoted portrait of a “virtuous woman” and translate it for real life—careers and kitchens, budgets and boundaries, generosity and gym days, faith and practical wisdom. We talk about becoming whole before titles, why “woman” and “wife” often intertwine in Scripture, and how that identity shapes dating, engagement, and marriage without turning desire into an idol.
We get specific about the work: healing past hurt so you don’t hand someone a heart still in pieces, building spiritual, mental, and physical strength for your assignment, and crafting boundaries that help you honor God when emotions run high. You’ll hear stories that make it human and hilarious—curfews that saved integrity, facial expressions that scared good men away, and “shoot your shot” moments done with dignity. We also challenge married listeners: put Christ on display through covenant love so singles can see what a holy marriage actually looks like in public, not just in posts.
If you’ve ever felt overwhelmed by Proverbs 31, we cut through the noise and show the timeless virtues underneath: diligence without burnout, stewardship without stinginess, generosity without performative optics, and reverence that quiets the timeline. Whether you’re single, engaged, or married, this conversation meets you where you are and invites you to become who you’re called to be—useful, wise, and anchored. Listen, reflect, and share this with a friend who needs courage for the next step. If this helped you, subscribe, leave a review, and tell us: what boundary or habit will you start this week?
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SPEAKER_01:She said, you got this, y'all got this. She said, should the Proverbs 31 woman be the utmost goal of single women today? And is if yes, can you put this scripture in layman's term for today's time? Should that should that be the utmost goal for single women?
SPEAKER_00:I mean this is the best example. I mean a virtuous wife. I mean, there are people like as you stated before, there are awesome women throughout the Bible, but this is one specifically talks about being a wife. So I mean, I think you know, that this is our perfect example. Um and again, it's as Donna said, I've said, it's a process. You know, don't allow it to condemn you or make you feel like, oh my God, I don't measure up, you know, I'll never be, you know, you can't look at it. And I as I said before, I initially, when I first read it, that's the way I look at it. But it it's not, it's not a condemning um chapter. It's not at all. But you can you can make it to this, you can become this. Absolutely. It's it's attainable.
SPEAKER_01:Now I would ask this would would be a virtuous woman and a virtuous wife be synonymous? Would that you know really be the same thing? Is that why you would stand out to to the husband to become a wife eventually? Do you think it's the same thing? I think gosh. I think in many ways, because I always go back to that to that scripture of why are we here? You know, God could have done something else. Um, but he called us this first, right? He he called us wife first, right? Um, and so even with the research that I was doing preparing for this uh throughout scripture and through in the in the Hebrew, the word woman and wife are almost synonymous in everything that I read. It was his idea. Who am I to deviate from what he really called me to do and what he really wants from us? Now I know there are people who say, Well, I don't desire even to be a wife, I don't desire to be married, and that's okay, I imagine. I still think though that you should strive to be that woman in P31, though. In in every other way, you should still strive to be that woman because I believe that um that's what God called you to be first. Like everything that's in P31, it was it was all wrapped up in Genesis 218, anyway.
SPEAKER_00:So and even if you take wife away from this chapter, yeah, yeah, read all the other scriptures.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, absolutely.
SPEAKER_00:She was a whole woman, a whole good.
SPEAKER_01:She was so good. Okay, now so good. That's when they take me, okay, back to Genesis. Yeah. We don't we don't see where God created her as a as a piece of a thing either. So she was a whole woman. Whole thing. That's like he was a whole man. Absolutely. She was a whole woman. Yeah. That's good.
SPEAKER_00:So that's really how I see it.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And what was her last statement she said?
SPEAKER_01:Um, if yes, can you put this scripture in layman's term for today's time?
SPEAKER_00:Well, let's see what uh what's the message? What's the message?
SPEAKER_01:Someone with message version.
SPEAKER_00:He can put it in layman's term, isn't it? And look, the title is in in uh this is Proverbs 31 message version. Him to a good wife.
SPEAKER_01:Him to a good wife. No, that's H1. Okay, okay, yeah. As in your hill.
SPEAKER_00:Uh Wow. Yeah. It says a good woman is hard to find and worth far more than diamonds. Her husband trusts her without reserve and never has reason to regret it. Never spiteful. She treats him generously all her life long. She shops around for the best yarns and cottons and enjoys knitting and sewing. She's like a trading ship that sells to faraway places and brings back exotic surprises. Sound like traveling. She's up before dawn preparing breakfast for her family and organizing her day. I'm still working on this. Ooh, she looks over a field and buys it. Buys. Then with money, she puts aside, save, she plants a garden. First thing in the morning, she dresses for work, rolls up her sleeves, eager to get started. She senses the worth of her work. Is in no hurry to call it quits for the day. So you can't be lazy. Can't be lazy. She's skilled in the what? She's skilled. Honey went to school. She's skilled in the craft. She's no money. Yeah, but she was just buying stuff. She was buying stuff. She didn't go to her husband and say, can I? Can I? He trusts her, remember?
SPEAKER_01:That's good. That's real good.
SPEAKER_00:With that reserve, it's with the meeting. She's skilled in the crafts of home and hearth. Diligent in homemaking. DIY chick. She's quick to assist anyone in need. So she reaches out to help the poor. Um, so she's generous, doesn't worry about her family when it snows. Their winter clothes are all mended and ready to wear. She makes her own clothing. And dresses in colorful linens and silks. Her husband is greatly respected when he deliberates with the city fathers. She designs gowns and sells them, brings the sweater she knits to the to the dress shop. I'm almost there.
SPEAKER_01:You almost there. That's why I'm just gonna go to the channel. She ain't gonna be doing the crochet. The spirit sewing came up on me of the night, too. I'm like, oh God, you never had the design. I'm ready. You never had the design. No, I want to. Me too. Okay. Is it right? Your name got it.
SPEAKER_00:Look. It says her clothes are well made and elegant. Now that speaks volume greatly. It does. So you know. It does. Hey, okay. Keep it going. And she always faces tomorrow with a smile. Optimistic. When she speaks, she has something worthwhile to say. And she always says it kindly. She keeps an eye on everyone in her household and keeps them all busy and productive. Her children respect and bless her. Her husband joins in words of praise. Many women have done, this is what he says. Many women have done wonderful things, but you've outclassed them all. Charm can mislead, and beauty soon fades. The woman to be admired and praised is the woman who lives in the fear of God. Give her everything she deserves. Festoon her life with praises.
SPEAKER_01:Give it to her. She sounds like a teacher too. Low key. Yeah. She sounds like a teacher. Yeah. Looking over the children, singing with stuff. Keeping them busy. My God. She needs to come to my class tomorrow. Really? She's real busy.
SPEAKER_00:And I was thinking too, as I was saying that, you know, about your purpose. And I don't want that person, especially like an at-home, stay-at-home mom, you know, not to feel condemned, like, oh, you know, because she has she has a business. No. If your purpose is running your home and raising your children, that's good. That purpose fits that vision. It does. Absolutely.
SPEAKER_01:That's good. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And you can be defin, you can absolutely be productive and successful in that. You know, this is just what she does. But everybody's purpose is different.
SPEAKER_01:It is.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:No, and I want to add something to that too, because even like for the stay-at-home moms, uh, the scripture uh uh verse 17 stuck out to me because even for the stay-at-home mom, if you're doing, doing, doing for your family, doing for your family, but the scripture even instructs you to like do for yourself. Um in the Amplified, it says she equips herself with strength, spiritual, mental, and physical fitness for her God-given task. So we we still have uh an assignment to take care of ourselves. Even in there's the balance, even in everything that we're providing for our home and for our husband and for our family and children, whatever, um, there's a balance that is required of us, right? So, yeah, work out, you know, go to the spa, do things that make you feel good about yourself, like take some me time, so to speak. Um, you're still able to do that and still be the P31 woman.
SPEAKER_00:Because these are it was it's wait a minute. She had servants. She had servants.
SPEAKER_01:I saw that yeah, yeah, earlier. Yeah, she did. Everything she was doing is good. Right. Everything she wasn't doing.
SPEAKER_00:She had help.
SPEAKER_01:She had help. The help had good to the help.
SPEAKER_00:The help had help.
SPEAKER_01:And she was good to the help. Wasn't low down to them. He's such a balanced guy. Isn't he? And he was slotting that stuff in there. And we go and listen and read, you'll see it. But uh a lot of times we, like you say, some people read this and feel overwhelmed by everything that they will actually miss the part where it's telling her to take care of herself too, to take some time away. Uh, I was laughing uh when you were talking about working out because it it's again, it must be the virtuous woman rising up. I be dreaming about working out and driving through the neighborhood. I say, well, Lord, let's do it then because it's gonna be you. It's gonna be you. It's so fun that I had several dreams. I know that sounds crazy, but I be having dreams of working out. And then sometimes I go ahead and do it. I gotta get to get consistent with it. Just rising up. Now I feel encouraged. You should. I need to go on and do it for real.
SPEAKER_00:I didn't have a dream, but um I had to do something.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah. The next question that um that was sent in, she said, uh, what are the characteristics of a godly wife in in this time? What is a surefire way to be certain you're not idolizing the thought of marriage? I don't know that the characteristics have changed. You know, that's the second question that said for this time. I get it, but I think that's part of the issue. The word of God doesn't change. It is shining. It is timeless yesterday, today forever. And so I think that's where we err often is that we go searching for something that fits the time. The word of God is timeless inside of time. So I get rid of that. Yeah, you know, it's it applies. It applies, it applies. Then now for me. It applies. Yeah. That's gonna be my answer for that.
SPEAKER_00:It applies, it applies, and I and I still say, you know, we looking at the end goal, you know, demand the marriage. If you focus on you, I promise, I promise. We have, and I I mean, I'm not gonna release it until she releases it publicly. But I was mentoring this particular young lady for the past couple of years, and she has been working on her spiritually, um, naturally. Um there was some shedding of relationships and friendships, and um, I had to talk her through that because she didn't understand, like, you know, because this is a part of my life I enjoyed, you know, and why, you know, like she was losing something. And within months, the person, this person she was involved in a relationship with, and she said it just dissolved. The relationship just dissolved. It was no no animosity or anything like that. They just went their separate ways. All of a sudden, this person shows back up and he said, You are my wife. We should have never, you know, separated or what have you, and they're married. They went to their um to each other's families, they consulted with them, they got their blessing, and and um they came to um pastor and I beh after the fact. And you know, we were ready to, hey, hi, why y'all gonna do that? But after she explained, yeah, and she was like, you know, I couldn't, we we knew it was God, and plus her her grandfather is a pastor, so they they had you know counseling or whatever with him, and she said, I know it's God. I'm ready.
SPEAKER_01:That's good.
SPEAKER_00:And I feel like if you just if you get in purpose, if you follow him, it will fall in your lap, just like that. I I truly believe that, but I don't think people they don't believe it because they've been doing it their way for so long.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And the trauma behind that and the you know, and the failure is just like I don't believe, you know, it can't happen like that.
SPEAKER_01:No, I it does seem for a fit. After you've, you know, done a couple of things and dealt with a couple of things. It sounds like uh what's that song, the unreachable star? It's real pretty, but it's way, way over there. Yeah. It's beautiful to behold. And you think about it and you're like, oh, you know, but it feels like it's way over there sometimes.
SPEAKER_00:But uh And I say do the work. Go ahead, do the work, do the work do the work on yourself because I'm telling you, you know, um, Pastor Now we did not do it the uh traditional way, and he tells you all the time, like the first five years were hell on earth. You know, and we and and it was a growth process for years because we did not do it the right way, you know, even though God told me that's who it was, but but we weren't prepared. Yeah, we weren't prepared, and so I hadn't quite found myself, you know, who I am and what what he truly wants me to do. You know, he's struggling with the call of God on his life, so it's a lot there on the plate that we had to contend with and had to live out together while, you know, and and trying to be one but discover who you are individually, that's a struggle. That is, because that's a lot of people, really.
SPEAKER_01:That's a bunch of people because you're doing a bunch of different things. That is true. You know what I'm saying? And you you haven't found yourself which which would be a oneness, you know what I'm saying? Or a whole anyway, and we say it like that. That's a lot of people. No, no, I I agree 1000% with with you. And uh what Pastor M said, like um, doing the work is so essential. Like so essential because marriage itself is gonna have its challenges. And so imagine, you know, entering into a covenant with someone, you becoming one, and you know, and then you still working on you. You know, I think those are the moments where you'd be like, you know what, I don't even want to do this. Those are the moments if we look back, and even, you know, like she said, I, you know, we too kind of share in that testimony of like first two years, I was like, I know you lying. Like, like uh I say this all the time whenever I can't make this up, you know. I was like, wait, no, God, I know you said just like she said, but I was like, no, this ain't that. And um, and so first two years were very difficult. They were very, like, I knew this is I knew this was my husband. I was sure, I knew I heard God and all that, but it was so challenging, I think, because we just, if we're just transparent, we just didn't do the work that we were supposed to do prior to entering into the covenant. Like, like we heard God and then we just stopped right there and like, okay, cool, let's do it. You know, and then there's nothing in put in between to continue to prepare for it. So I think we have to be mindful of that, even in hearing God. Like, okay, hear him and then ask for the like oftentimes we hear God on the what, but then we never go back to him to ask him on the about the how. You know, yeah, the way it's like, okay, how would you want me to do this? We just heard, we know we heard him. Like, go. And then we just go, you know, and so that's good. That's it is we just gotta just you know, just go back and and take our time. And I know we just be want to do it. Stop right there, though. What if we just want to do it? Really, what if we be going if I'm being we just be going to do it. You know, and uh, and then we miss all the in between. You do, you miss all the in between. And I I don't want to do that. That's not, you know, anything that I want to do.
SPEAKER_00:Uh yeah, and I can imagine like uh if you're coming and say you've gone through several failed relationships, heartbreak or whatever, and if you could just see your heart, like this tattered heart, torn up, beat up, you bringing it to this man, and you the first God showed you, I mean, God showed him that you're his help. So yeah, he's he's on point. He ready. Yeah, and then y'all gonna put that together? Man. So you know, if if that's the case, we gotta do some work. We gotta do some work.
SPEAKER_01:I don't know why that made me think about uh it was a meme, I think I saw, you know, like babies be trying to feed you food. Uh-huh. It's all mushed up and stuff all over it. Can't be so sincere in the giving. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? And I I would be sincere in giving, but I wouldn't I don't want to present a heart that's all toe up and beat up like that and bust to the white meeting. Yeah, no, you don't. I don't want to do that. And it's just because you wouldn't want to receive that. I wouldn't want to receive it. I ain't got time, you know. We so I know, you know, we mean well. We mean well. But if we just take the time to just consider the whole of like what's really happening and what's really at stake, we just slow down. Yeah. Just slow down sometimes.
SPEAKER_00:That's why we say premarital counsel, but people think it's just such a far battle.
SPEAKER_01:Trying to get in your business. Oh my god.
SPEAKER_00:And he's he says over the pulpit so many times, and it never fails. I mean, every year. It's gonna be a couple, they don't they don't go through it.
SPEAKER_01:You say we got married, and then where are they in about a couple months? In the open battling.
SPEAKER_00:And it's you just want to take them and shake them because I think you should.
SPEAKER_01:For the couples who didn't experience the green couch, I think they should all come back. It's something about that green couch. Yeah. That's a little bit when you get married. I'm gonna have Pastor pull back out the green. I'm gonna tell them Pastor. We want the green. I want the green couch. And then uh uh Aaron and I talk about this too all the time. Um when pastors be like, and bring them to me and and stand them next to me, and I'm gonna ask them this. You better, you better tell them. I said, I ain't telling them nothing. Oh, they are flying by. I ain't telling them nothing. I want him to say what he's gonna say. I want him to be taking off. He's a rocker. I'm not I'm not uh what's what's the word I'm looking for? I'm not warning you about anything. I want to know too. Shoot. I got time for you to be making up something in your mind. That's the best way. Yeah. Honestly. I'm just gonna stand on the side with Pastor. You know, we all meet each other's representatives. We do.
SPEAKER_00:So we do think your dad would probably scare uh your dad is serious.
SPEAKER_01:My dad and my brother, yeah, and he's quiet. Yeah, yeah. Oh god, I can tell y'all some stories. But um, but it was a guy I was dating, and I knew he was not the one. I did know it. And I still, you know, talked to him or whatever. And I guess my daddy had had enough. My brother had enough, and he handled it another way. Oh Lord. But my daddy had it right. My daddy had enough. And he just came to me. Um, he had just uh just taken his bath for the night, and he, you know, he had on his robe and stuff or whatever, and I was sitting in the chair in the living room in the dark. Crazy. And uh he was just like, uh, he just told me, don't let nobody use you. And then he went on and got in the bed, and that was it. And it was like that. Yeah, he just went and got in the bed, and I was like, girl, that's it, right? Yeah. And even though I already knew. But you know, when my daddy said it, that was it. That's all you need to hear. That was it. That was it, yeah. And he didn't fuss. He's and he's not a fusser. He's very quiet. You know, his his voice doesn't get any louder than this. And he he's the kind of uh, he's so quiet, honestly, that you know, when you were young and you had the land line or the cordless phone, whatever, and somebody called you and your your mama or your daddy yell, yeah, phone for you, he would bring the phone to you. Housework. So he didn't even he don't even yell across the house. He just bring the phone. But uh he when he said that, he was like, don't let anybody use you. And he just went and got in the bed and that was it for me. That was a rap. Yeah. But he he gotta deal with a lot of people. But you know, I'm not saying in intimidation, but yeah. Between my daddy and pops and my brother. It gets to the truth. Yeah, we're gonna get to the bottom of it. But okay, idolizing marriage, is that a thing?
SPEAKER_00:I think so. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I think you can. How do you how do you stay out of that that zone, that area?
SPEAKER_00:I think social social media is is is the culprit when it comes to that. Because I noticed like in times past when I had um Ladies Night Out, or we have question answer, that is the bulk marriage of the questions about finding my mate and when I'm gonna find my maiden why then and and I've been saying the same thing. You know, you gotta find yourself. Yeah. I was gonna say, if you're so absorbed in that.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. If more emphasis was put on yourself, then we would have fewer of those questions about where's my man? Yeah. They probably will be minimal. But like she said, there's not. Like you leave a a setting like a lady's not out or whatever, and you continuously ask that that question, and you get the answer, you get the response, and you do nothing with it. And then next event, they're the same questions. So do you have to ask inside of your head a little bit?
unknown:No.
SPEAKER_01:It's like uh rolling your spirit, your ass. Like, uh no. Yeah, it's a so- of course. She be the pastor.
SPEAKER_00:She again, I want to shake them, you know. Yeah. But hey, you know, we got we're learning. We gotta learn. We are learning.
SPEAKER_01:Uh I I again, I'm learning so much about myself. And, you know, and it's not that I didn't know, I guess learning is the wrong word, but um confronting things about myself that I know, you know, are just counterproductive to P31 and to what you know I know that I need to be.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Uh, and it's a lot of it is funny, and I'd be like, girl, you wild, you wild, and let that junk go. You know, some of it I've I dealt with and I feel like I've overcome, or you know, on the way to mastering it. But some of it, I it's like, ooh, it just wanna hold on to me like a lover. And just squeeze me. He does. He just wanna seduce me, like, no, don't leave me, don't let me go. But gotta let it go. Yeah, gotta let it go. That's what Usher said.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, they shouldn't idolize marriage, but I um I understand why the desire is so strong. Because of Genesis, you know, that's the that's the example he set for us. So it's innate, as we said earlier, you know, for us to have that desire. Um, so I'm definitely not saying that it's wrong that you have the desire, but you know, when it consumes you and and you know, that's all you're thriving for, and you're skipping over yourself, then you're doing you're doing a disservice to yourself and to the person that you could potentially end up, you know, marrying.
SPEAKER_01:That's true. That's very true. It is true. And then uh what I I uh I liked about P31 too, um, like you say, her children rise up and call her blessed. That means they're paying attention. And you she's also teaching her children, you know, who to be and what to do and how to handle things. And we can teach them in the white way or we can teach them the wrong way. And then now we have generational strongholds that don't have to be. If we like you say, we just do the work. Yeah. And get it right.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Keep it tight and keep it right.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:But um the next question they had, which I think is a good one, is on the other side of uh, like you say, you just want to do it, period. She said when there are moments of longing, emotionally and physically, what are some tips to keep yourself while waiting for your husband? Keeping yourself while you're waiting. I think um I mean there's a there's a other things that I could say considering that. Um from a I mean all things are usually in in the name of the heart. But I think again considering whatever actions you take, it's like are these actions pleasing to God? And so that is what you that should be at the forefront of your mind. Yeah. Is my life husband, no husband, relationship, no relationship, is my life pleasing to God? And in any area that you can say no, then there's space for correction and repentance. That's so sweet and gentle how you put that. You know, and so that's that's my first thought. Yeah. Potentially the only, but you know Yeah. So really keeping yourself out of situations. That you know are gonna go uh a certain way. Absolutely. Yeah. Let me tell you something, man. Tell us. Don't do that to yourself. I mean, I'm just saying. Yeah. And I started off by saying, you know, like all things are spiritual. I was thinking just from a natural perspective. Like, I'm gonna tell you, back when back when PJ and I were dating, we grown people. And I was like, alright, about nine o'clock, you gotta go because I know me. You gotta get out of here. You gotta get up out of here. So you didn't even put it on the city. I'm not even going to you. Me, I know me. Yeah. Okay. CC's hot and ready. I want you to get out. CC. And the CC's or Caesars. No Caesars, both of them. Okay. Get out of there. You understand? So let's be real. Let's be real. Let's be very, very real. You gotta go home. I gotta curfew. Either way. Yeah. If we visiting, we need to, we need to visit in the daylight. You gotta bring the children to come into Well, it was a while, you know, it was a while before we met each other's children and stuff like that. Um, but I'm just saying, like, no, we're not gonna play these games. Right. So why you set yourself up like that? Right. That's real. You know you. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. We gotta do that. Yeah. So you gotta be ready. You know what I'm ready. I don't know any other way. You know what I mean? You can send me the fact I'm gonna put it, put that on my tag. I still got P31. I'm gonna put a little C and ready. I'm legally hot and ready nowadays. You know, legally C C legally legally C C So that is so funny. Oh my God. It is what it is. That's true. And it's real. So it really is about the bigger picture, too. And like you say, like, is this part of my life pleasing God? Yeah. And Pastor been telling us about that lately too. About being obedient to God, growing up in the spirit. He had me laughing the other the other Sunday. He was like, some of y'all just weak. You just weaken God.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:That's just cause in the spirit.
SPEAKER_00:Basically, the enemy is trying to get you to do that. He is.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:In whatever capacity. Yeah. He's trying to get you to do that.
SPEAKER_01:In whatever capacity.
SPEAKER_00:So anything that you're facing and it's the opposite of the word of God, you already know it's a setup.
SPEAKER_01:It's a setup. Yeah. It's a setup. Absolutely.
SPEAKER_00:So put things, put the boundaries out there that's gonna keep you from falling in a trap.
SPEAKER_01:Right. It's true. You can't set yourself up. No. At the end of the day. And at that point, you really can't even blame Satan. I was gonna say, yeah. That's you. That's another thing. A lot of this stuff the devil ain't got nothing to do with. It's a choice. Yeah. Setting ourselves up for the okay do. But the choice is a thought. It's true. Yeah. And the scripture is clear. Be not entangled. The yoke of bondage. Don't be entangled. We can start right there. Not legally. Yeah, right. Don't be entangled. Don't be in no entanglement. In an illegal sense. Yeah. Cut it out. She says, how do I release fears, disappointment, disgust of past relationships, and not bring them into my future relationship? Address it, deal with it. You know, um, no, no, no worries. As we were saying earlier, she's you know, Pastor M said it, and you were talking about it in part two. Like, you like we know ourselves. We know that the baggage that we have, the traumas that we we carry. Dude, the word. Don't nobody want to deal with that. No one deserves to deal with that. Now, what I'm not saying is that even when you get into a marriage or relationship, that there may not be things some some things are processes, right? But I think all the the framework and the groundwork, you need to lay that. You need to be be on your face, you need to be in therapy, you need to be seeking counsel. Don't bring that and dump that onto someone and then have the expectation very good, like that they're just supposed to deal with it because you didn't. Yeah. Now it's a we problem. Well, it's it really is a we problem at that point, but you knew you had those traumas. Don't do that to anybody. Don't do it. It's not fair. It's not fair.
SPEAKER_00:And if you do that, you won't be, I mean, you won't be um bored or alone or you know. You'll have something to do. Listen.
SPEAKER_01:Until you will be well occupied. That is so true. Well occupied. So it's it's it is true though. Like, I'm gonna tell you something that what uh my uncle told me that whooped me too. I said, Lloyd, the boy must be around the corner, cuz I'm getting ambushed with all these things that I need to do. But you know, I'm enjoying it at the same time. My uncle said, uh, he asked me, Did I want to be married? I said yes. He said, You must not be for real, because if you ask God, he'll do it. He told me I must not be for real. I said, That's how you talk to your niece, uncle. Is this how we do? Uncle might be on us something. It water. Yeah. He was acting up. I just said, okay. And then the men in my life, they'll say something and then just walk out. And I gotta think about this thing. We're not gonna buffer it with other conversations. But it it whooped me. I said, okay.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, and I don't like what Dom said, it's it's going back and asking the question why and how. Why and how because he will answer your prayer. He will absolutely so why hasn't it? You know, why hasn't it been up to this point? What do I need to do or how do I need to respond? Or what I, you know.
SPEAKER_01:It's it's praying that simple prayer that Pastor V always talks about. God, show me me. Show me me. Yeah, and too often we skip that one. We pray for the husband, you know. God, point him out to me in the grocery store. I know he's the one, yada yada. In the bookstore. In the bookstore, wherever it is, you are the life, right? But you never stop and say, God, show me myself. Yeah. What is it that where do I need to grow? How do I need to improve? How do I need to be the woman that can be found? Because it's he who's like, because it's he who findeth a wife. And my wife right now. And my wife right now. And my mentally wife. And my wife. Emotionally, spiritually, and my wife. Am I being where's Waldo? Mmm, hiding in plain sight. Is that what I'm doing? Yeah. But um, it's it's been, like I said, it's been eye-opening. And uh, like I said, I've ambushed, but not in a bad sense. It's just been like, oh, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
SPEAKER_02:Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_01:And um one of my one of my uh one of my brothers, which, you know, the crew I call them my brothers, he was like, I said, Jesus. I'd be trying to smile. He was like, um, it just be your, he said, it just be your facial expression. And I'd be like, I don't be thinking I'm looking a certain way. He was like, um, whoever that brother is, he's gonna have to not be intimidated by that. I was like, I don't want to be intimidating either. So, I mean, what do I do? Just walk around and now we ain't asking you to walk around and look silly all day. Because I feel like that's what I be looking like. No, I don't want to do that either. But it's it's funny, you know. I just be like, okay, well, you know, I'm gonna try to work on that. Yeah, I'm gonna try to think on things that are lovely. So maybe it's that part and then show up on the outside, huh? That that's that's the way. And he's telling me at the blue, I was like, golly, Jesus.
SPEAKER_00:Well, that's something I had to work on.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, is it? Mm-hmm. Oh yeah. I used to She said, Oh yeah.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Um, high school, um, early adult, you know, because I was his sister, you know, don't cross me, no nonsense, no nonsense or whatever. And I did. I always had this look, and I I mean, guys would try to approach me, they'd be like, Yeah. You know. And it carried over to where people, even um at church, you know, like, I'm scared to approach her because she looks like you. And I'm like, I don't, I don't mean. And so I have to, I have to um be very cautious. I have to remind myself sometimes, even just sitting up in church. I remember we when we first started church, we were in the gym, and um it was it was one Sunday after church, and Pastor was like, What was wrong? I said, What are you talking about? I was preaching, and you just sitting up there, you looking mad. And I didn't, I'm like, well, I wasn't mad, but my concentration phase. You be thinking about other stuff. Well, I'm I was listening intently to him. And so I'm focused, and I had this look on my face, and he thought I was mad. And so that started me on my journey where I actually like I have to get in front of the mirror and I cheat. I even practiced it one day. They were talking, and then you know, I I changed my look, and I was like, And so they were just talking. It was like, hmm, what's wrong with you? I said, well, I'm trying not to be like, and it was like, don't do that. So I'm like, okay, well, I don't know. I don't know what to do.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, because I went to a wedding a couple of weeks ago, and um, and one of my one of my um children's parents, she saw me on some pictures, and she was like, uh, Miss Tree, you look so pretty, but you was just looking so mean, like, don't nobody bother me. I was like, oh my God, I was having a great time. Like, what am I supposed to do? Like, I felt like I was smiling because I be intent now, like you say, about trying to, you know, keep my face from, you know, looking crazy. And uh sometimes I just be thinking about things, or like you say, listen intently to what's, you know, what's going on, especially, you know, the message or whatever. But sometimes, you know, and I'm kind of a person who's always thinking. So I don't know. Yeah. She was like, but you was just looking so mean, like, don't nobody talk to me. I was like, oh my God, I was having a great time. Like, uh, I'm sorry. I don't know what to tell you. Yes, we're gonna record our progress. Lord have mercy. But um, it's just been um thing after thing, you know. But I I do want to work on it. Like I said, I I do want to check the things off his list too. You know, I don't want to be selfish in that, you know, in that in that area in that right. Because I want him to enjoy our marriage, you know what I'm saying? I don't want him to feel like he's the only one that's um, you know, doing all the things or whatever and making the marriage enjoyable. Uh I hear a lot of people too just can't stand the thought of their spouse. Just can't don't want to be around them. And I say, I never I never want to have a marriage like that. I never want to be like that. Wow. Yeah. Never. Yeah. I get it, but I don't discard very much. You know, single people. Yeah. Like, ugh, you know, I don't want to go home, you know, stuff like that. I'm like, God forbid. I want my house to be peaceful. And at the end of the day, we'd be excited to see each other. I agree. Even if we had a disagreement. I agree. Yeah. Teleport me home. Right. You know. I'm clicking my head. I'm clicking my head. You're right. You're right. I I had a kind of similar conversation at work about that today. Um, and I I said, I hear you, I under I understand, not because I understand, but because I've heard it. Yeah. You know, that's just because what were y'all doing when you were getting to know each other or before marriage, you know, and stuff like that, that you've gotten so far off that you're at the point now, like, I don't even want to see, you know, this person, or I don't even want to spend time with them. And the conversation that I was having today was uh about uh some young ladies who find time for girls' trips and stuff like that, but they never find time to like spend with their spouse and would prefer not to. I find that very strange. You know, why like why? What's happening? You know, so I don't know that I have much input in that area because I I can't wrap my mind around it. Right, absolutely. So I don't know that's not what I want to have. How you get that far off. Right. So and it presents when you when you hear that all the time from different people, you be thinking to yourself, well, I'm better off single. Sadly, that's what it that's the the picture that it paints, you know. But you also know that ain't true because singleness, when that's not really what you want, it it don't feel good, you know, all the time. Yeah. And people, you know, for the most part be in denial. You just be saying things to make yourself feel better, or you know, to other people, like, oh no, it doesn't bother me. And not saying they don't single people say that, make that statement. Yeah. Yeah. I told the Lord I was hot. I needed, I need to be married. Help me. I'm being so sincere. And I'm being sincere. I think you just have to tell the truth about it. Tell the truth. I don't need to be a single woman for any amount of time. Marry me, Lord. Marry me off, Jesus. This is the truth. Immediately. Like, no. You know what? So that's kind of part of the conversation we're having. It's like, well, maybe people are kind of talking out of both sides of their neck, so to speak. So, like, you're in your private time, you desire a thing, and then when you're around other people, you're kind of confessing another. And what you confess out of your mouth is really gonna trump what you get. It's gonna be the determinant. You're speaking it. Right. So maybe that's why you're still single when your heart is to really be married, but you're confessing another thing. And then that's the fruit that you're producing for your life. And I always feel like it's a telltale sign too, because I think like things that that you enjoy like intimately, yeah, you'll talk about it or whatever, but there would be no need to just see, oh, I'm single. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, yeah. You're lying to us and yourself. Yeah. You can like you can feel, well, at least I feel like I can. When people are just not being authentic, saying stuff like that.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:But um You let them talk long enough, you'll hear it. You let them talk long enough. You'll hear it. You'll hear it. Or the find out the why.
SPEAKER_01:Absolutely.
SPEAKER_00:But you know, I I think this world has caused people to take the institution of marriage so lightly. So true.
SPEAKER_01:So true.
SPEAKER_00:Um again, social media and what we see, like just looking at my class, like I've so many of my classmates, like, they're not with the person they want to marry. Yeah. Or they they've remarried, and I'm like, oh my God.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Like, I can't, I can't even fathom. You know, with through all the disagreements, you know, that we've had like I just I can't even see trying to rebuild.
SPEAKER_01:That's so true. We can't see it either. That's so true.
SPEAKER_00:I'm not saying it's it's it's not possible. I'm thinking that what you're putting down. Right, right. You know, I it took a lot of work. Yeah. And I'm just like, hmm. Yeah. You know, and how people just drop it and and pick it back up, and and like you said, and and then you don't even get uh healed from that. And you take that baggage to the next person.
SPEAKER_01:That's true. Yeah. So it's I think I think much of the reason, Pastor, why singles see marriage the way they do or they speak on it the way they it's partly our fault as married people. Um those of us who are not living according, doing marriage the way that God designed, right? And so um Pastor John said something interesting uh uh like about that uh this morning. He was like, you know, as as married people, like we have a responsibility to display Christ really first. Yeah. Right? Yeah, right, because like this is this is our ministry, right? And then we have the we have the ministry of displaying the ministry of the gospel. So if we put our marriage on display, like loving our spouses the way Christ loved the church, people are gonna say, oh, like look at them. And then they're gonna be like, not only want to be married, but they're gonna want to see like the God of the institution that you're actually in. That's good. And you're gonna want to be a part of it. And so I think that's a part of our responsibility. Um, we're not putting Christ on display properly through our marriages. And so that is why so many people feel like you could do whatever you want to do in this institution, or you can get married and still have a peace on the side, or I don't really gotta get married, I can just live together for 25 years and you know, and dishonor the institution, and you know, um, in coveted, but not really in covenant, and and expect the blessings of God and expect the favor of God and expect everything that comes with, but you don't want to do it God's way. Yes, you know, and it don't go, it just don't go like that. It don't work like that. It doesn't go like this.
SPEAKER_00:And so was that what two, three Sundays ago? I think it was 12 o'clock service, and he literally may had to make an announcement because I remember yeah, because because we had an influx of unmarried couples coming for prayer to pray on.
SPEAKER_01:I remember that.
SPEAKER_00:Asking to pray for my relationship.
SPEAKER_01:Since when, huh? Yeah. I remember that announcement.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And I I was I was just shocked. I'm like, for one, I I I would be, I would be scared and ashamed. So even leave up with that. And ask for that. You know, if I'm doing that, I'm doing that. You know, I'm not gonna go up there to mother and say, hey, lay hands on us. You're disagreeing. He I think he's like, My boyfriend didn't come home last night. Right. My boyfriend didn't come home last year. Jesus. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, it's certain things we just wouldn't do. Yeah. This is true.
SPEAKER_00:You know, this is the times, you know, we're moving in, and I think that's like you said, the even more so of a mandate on couples, you know, Christian couples to be that example.
SPEAKER_01:Absolutely.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Absolutely. It's still good and very good on this side. Very good. Yes, it is. You know, um, excuse me. I was reading uh Genesis, uh, the first chapter, and oh, you know, all those things in the second chapter, and I was getting into the third chapter, but um looking at creation when he was creating things, he goes, you know, it's good, it's good, it's good, it's good. And then when he gets to Adam, very good. Very good. My God from heaven. Very good, very good. Extra good, extra good. I like that. Extra good. Yeah, like yeah, this is this is it. This is the culmination, this is what I wanted it to be. And uh, and that's the only thing that he makes in his image. Yeah, everything else is designed. That's the only thing. When we get to Adam, he makes in his own image. Yeah. So it's is it's a special thing. And and of course, he's instituted marriage. So, like you say, like we people now take it so lightly. Take it so lightly, and it's I don't know, it's saddening, it's disheartening, and it's it's damaging to the to the kingdom, it's damaging to the name of God and what he stands for, and what what he always wanted. Of course. And like you say, what pastor said, we're doing a poor job sometimes. I know for me hearing it, and I'm I'm saved, I'm a Christian. It'd be disheartening hearing some people's take on marriages. Yeah. And I've had, you know, many examples of of good marriages. But again, too, you know, the enemy when he wants to be louder.
SPEAKER_00:I was just blessed too, um a few weeks ago, we took the worship team, we went to um Dallas to a worship conference. And the church that we went to um, I believe that Saturday after we left, they were having up a ceremony for several hundred couples. And we found out later, Kyra did some research on the church or whatever, that that's something that they had been doing since the the founding pastor um left and this new pastor took over. But like any couple that was engaged and wanted to be married, they wanted to, you know, whether they were hot and just needed whatever. They went through, I believe they went through a little process, premarital process, but they all he performed their wedding. The wedding was, they they took care of everything. Like they just, I believe they just had to get like their tucks and their dress, but the reception, the ceremony, the music, everything the church provided, it was several hundred couples. Wow. And we look and I'm like, that's amazing. That is amazing.
SPEAKER_01:That is.
SPEAKER_00:And um, Kyra said something to the to the fact that they that he paid for, like if they had a mortgage, like they they got gift, a gift.
SPEAKER_01:Wow.
SPEAKER_00:Jeez. Like paying a you know, a lease or or the mortgage payment or something like that. That's incredible. That each couple, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Wow. Yeah, I see, I see Bright Way doing that. Come on, vow renewal. Yes, and I see y'all it. You know, I was leaning in when she said paying off a mortgage. I was like, oh, okay. I mean, let me do, let me renew my vows. Let me hurry up. But what you let me hurry up and get the Lord, he can pay it out if he wants to. That's nothing, ain't nothing to sympathize, right?
SPEAKER_00:But y'all believe that's the example. Absolutely. Putting putting the Christian marriages on display, although the right way to do it. Putting it on display so they can see. That's amazing. You know, absolutely and say, okay, that's that's what I want. I want to do it that way.
SPEAKER_01:I love that. That's awesome. And then you create it with like I said, with children, you create that example. I told my dad all the time, though, even with that one situation. That's why I knew right away that I shouldn't have been in that situation. But um, I told him, boy, you made the you made it hard, but in a good way. Because, you know, you could you could spot foolishness a mile away for the most part. And then I'm again, I'm so blessed to be surrounded by so many beautiful marriages with uh my aunts and uncles, with my spiritual parents. Even in my um childhood um church home, my um my pastor was crazy about his wife. She was crazy about him. Their names was baby. Oh, and if you know, you ever heard them saying something else, you knew they was talking to somebody else about the other spouse. But uh they were, you know, it was very sweet. And they um they was always like newlyweds, and they had been married um almost 50 years, maybe 50 years. But uh I have been blessed too to see that. But um and that's why, you know, I do I do know what he should look like in certain areas anyway. But uh again, like just listening to some takes, which that's why this is a lesson to me while I'm saying this. Some things you just shouldn't be listening to. Some people you just shouldn't be listening to. You shouldn't entertain you know what they got going on, especially when you've already had uh good examples of what uh a godly marriage looks like.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, for sure.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah you gotta gotta watch that, gotta guard your gates too. And again, back to social media. I blame reality TV. Oh, yeah. That's when it started. That's where it started. Early 2000s with the world's house. Nobody was Flavor Flav or something. It was before Flavor Flav. I don't know. Oh, you're talking about like used to come on 10, Big Brother or something like MTV. MTV? Dang. Oh, you know what I'm talking about, but I can't remember the name of it.
SPEAKER_00:Real World. Real World. That's what it was. Real world. Real.
SPEAKER_01:It was Real World, that's what it was. But all that stuff. That's that's why uh social media is just like reality TV, nonstop. Yes. And imagine if that's all you consume. And that's all you consume. And then they let their kids sit up and consume it. But that's a whole nother episode. Yeah. Yeah. They let their kids consume it, and it's consuming them. Yes. Absolutely. So young. Uh last question. It says, what do you do if you notice your husband before he notices you? Shoot your shot. I'm a living witness. Shoot your shot.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:I mean, shoot your shot. How do you shoot your shot without shooting, shooting your shot? How do you shoot your shot? How do you not do that?
SPEAKER_00:You know, I used to. It's funny that you said you looked at me and you said, shoot your shot. Because that, you know, there was a time because they who can find? So he's like, he's like, He's gonna be the one that shooting.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:But he can find you in the conversation.
SPEAKER_01:In the shooting.
SPEAKER_00:In the shooting. Yeah. And shoot your you shoot your shot, don't mean throw yourself at him. Right, right. You know, it's just in the in the conversation, like, you know, what do you want? This is what I want, you know. And going from there.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I agree. So what would you what was your first conversation? I always wanted to know this. Like, what did you say? Hi, my name's Michonne. No. It's so funny.
SPEAKER_00:I was at choir rehearsal, so mine should have been on my part. She was seeking the Lord. Geez was in choir rehearsal, and he walked in with that uh uh mocknik uh body shirt, raw blue. She literally remembers royal blue and gold and prayer, apparently. And I just looked at JD's and I said, That's my husband.
SPEAKER_01:Carrie, that's my husband. You better claim it.
SPEAKER_00:And then she said, Oh, she said, I know, I know him. You want me to hook it up? I was like, Yeah. Come on with it. I love that. And I think he called me. She gave him my number. Uh-huh. And he called me in. He was like, You want to go out um for lunch? I think it was lunch. Um went to Olive Garden and he had um, then he went and got his his dog, Chelsea. That was that was the hook right there. Dougie Papa Spaniards is so pretty, little dog. And we went to the park and talked, and then it just went from there. We just started talking on the phone, and that was it. That was it.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, she better have a yes and yes. Tomorrow, I'm telling you, just like that. Yes, and amen.
SPEAKER_00:But now there should have been some conversation. See, because I had those stars and you know, all that stuff in my eyes, yeah, all googly-eyed and stuff, and yeah. So it was some conversations we should have had, yeah, you know, prior to, but um, of course, we put the cart before the horse, and and then I ended up pregnant. He wanted to do things the right way. I wanted to do things the right way.
SPEAKER_01:So I remember being at your wedding too. And she came down the aisle, yeah, singing inseparable. Sure did. Oh. You sang Inseparable? That's so sweet. Was that Union Church?
SPEAKER_00:No, it's word of life. Was it where of life? Um, location in Whistler.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, yeah, yeah. I knew it went uh chicken side.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I remember that.
SPEAKER_01:Plain as day. Coming down the aisle singing inseparable. I said, she better sing something. I think that was the first time I ever saw somebody uh coming down the aisle singing. Really? It was. That's probably why it's it's itching in my memory. I believe that was, I know that was the first time I I seen that before. I'm sure that's why I was in there like that. But I thought that was so sweet, you know? I I probably couldn't do that. I think you should do that. You should plan to do that. I frowned so fast. I'm sorry, I did. I felt it. Play the music, play the track, play the track, Jesus. So, and you, how did you shoot your shot? Um my now sister-in-law, she was my stylist at the time. And um I always say I saw him, but I didn't see him until I saw him. And then um one day I was talking to her, just you know, walking my hair done, and then I said, I noticed this dude at church. I said, I think he's on the prayer team, you know, or whatever. He was. And he was. Yeah. And then uh I said, you know who I'm talking about? And then she said, Describe him for me. He already knew. So yeah. I describe him. She was like, oh, yeah, like that, just very casual. And I was like, what you think about him? She was like, like that. And she was like, I don't know. She literally said, Oh no, that's hilarious. Okay, so probably next couple weeks go by. And then I said, I said, I think he's really cute, or whatever. She was like, I guess, like that.
SPEAKER_02:Oh my god.
SPEAKER_01:And I said, You said you know him. I said I said, do you know him? She said, Yeah. I said, You know him or you know him, know him. She was like, I know him. What you want me to do? And then I said, get his number. Oh no, I said, tell him, tell him to call me, give him my number. Uh-huh. She was like, okay, like that. And so um And you had no clue that. She still never said it was her brother. Ever never. And so uh she said down the road, she said she was testing me. No, so before she gave the number, she said, you know he got kids. And I was like, okay, that's okay. She was like, okay, like that. And uh she did. That was good. And uh couple, like maybe a week or so went by. And when she told him to call me, no, he texts me. He texts me on some real preacher type stuff. He was like, My sister said you wanted me to. I can hear it. So my sister said you wanted me to reach out to you. So a little backstory, I was previously, I was previously married and I had gotten a divorce. And, you know, she shared that with him. And she said, My sister said that you were, you know, had gotten a divorce. You know, I've been there. I understand praying for you. And I'm like, this lame dude. Are you serious right now? I was like, she did not understand the assignment. And so I I left him on red or I blocked him, like right there. Yeah, and then I told my sister, I said, no, no, like that. And he immediately became unattractive to me. So I was still seeing him at church and stuff like that. And um, probably a couple months went by, something started saying, you know, go up and let him pray for you, or something like that. Like maybe it'll like spark something, you know.
SPEAKER_00:He said he was gonna pray for you.
SPEAKER_01:I know, but then he never I didn't get in his line, it didn't fall like that. So anyway, my sister, probably three or four months down the road, my sister was like, What about that preacher dude that you said you were gonna reach out to? I said, Girl, he is so lame. And I showed her the text, and then I was like blocked, and we laughed about it. And she was like, Text him back. I was like, oh, so I did. And he was like, Who this? You know, and then so I was like, okay, he planned. Anyway, he ended up, yeah, and he said, Is this Dom? I said, Yes. He was like, Okay, can I call you? And I was like, Okay, cool. And then that was it. Yeah. We talked. And you didn't block the man anyway. I did, I did.
SPEAKER_00:Well, a couple of so that was a span, that was a couple of months.
SPEAKER_01:That was like four months in between. Yeah, because like I texted him and praying God told me he had to July, and it was like November when I text him again.
SPEAKER_00:Wow.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. So, you know, God is faithful. Going up for prayer and then not getting in the line. I was trying. I was trying. What would you guys say? You need a prayer. I don't know. I wasn't sure. I just wanted to get up there. What do you do for you? You know, just pray. Do a general prayer. See where we land. It's hilarious. Yeah. Dang what happened. That that's cool though, because like you say, a lot of times with the scripture, he did find the wife. Mm-hmm. Finding a good thing. You um, I think for some women that shut them down as far as like, you know, making themselves known. And be like, yeah, I like you. I find you attractive because you feel like you're doing too much or whatever. Yeah. But so I'm gonna, I'ma, I'ma have to evangelize. And then I'm gonna have to go up for prayer. That that part. I think that those two put that together, you got something. Hey, you got something right there.
SPEAKER_00:It's a win-win.
SPEAKER_01:It's a win-win. I thought that was so funny. It's the truth. That's the thing. She was evangelizing. She better win a soul for Christ. She didn't want a soul for Christ. And then now these other souls then came. Your crown is gonna be Julie, ain't it, girl? She's gonna be leaning. Like Pastor said, heavy. Heavy laden. But I have enjoyed you all so much tonight. Thank you. Just so grateful for your yeses. Uh like I say, I feel like this is probably one of the most nervous, nervous uh places I've been as far as asking someone to be a part. I was very nervous. I was nervous. And it's not, you know, like a bad thing. It's like, I hope she said yes. Because I saw y'all, and then when I saw y'all coming in together, I was like, yes, I was texting dumb. She didn't even know I was at church sitting behind you.
SPEAKER_00:I didn't know until I was late.
SPEAKER_01:At the women's conference, yeah. So I said, yeah, this is this is a sign for me. Because I don't think I ever seen y'all coming to a building together before. And the love was like, pow, right in your eyeballs, girl. I was like, okay. But uh I'm so so excited about this episode. So, you know, I'm just amazed. And I know that uh this information can be shared from a pure place, from the both of you, from a holy place. And that, you know, translates into the natural life as well. So uh I hope you guys have enjoyed. I hope you got much out of this this conversation, much out of this word. I hope it's a mirror. Yeah, I did too. Yeah, thank you for watching. My cheeks hurt a little bit. I'm excited about that. But uh thank you for the answers and the solutions, all the encouragement. I think it's gonna be, I believe it's gonna be life-changing for a lot of women. I feel I feel like we'll see some marriages out of this style. I believe so. Yeah. In Jesus' name. It shall be. I believe it. It is so. It is so. Um, but we'll see you guys next time. Uh like and share. Share this, share with your family, your friends, and especially your enemies. Bless them. We'll see y'all next time.