Joseph Says Yes

Joseph doesn’t get many lines in Scripture, but his obedience carries the kind of weight that changes history. We open Matthew 1–2 and talk through the part people skip: Joseph’s justice, his mercy toward Mary, and the moment God meets him in a dream with a simple command and a hard promise. That “fear not” isn’t just comfort. It’s covering, direction, and the push to move even when culture, reputation, and fear are loud. 

From naming Jesus to protecting Him from Herod, Joseph models prompt obedience and steady leadership. We also dig into one of the most underrated themes in the gospel story: adoption. Joseph adopting Jesus helps fulfill prophecy and gives us a living picture of salvation, identity, and what it means to be accepted into God’s family. If you’ve been wrestling with strongholds, generational habits, or feeling like your past gets the final word, this conversation puts language to a better truth. 

We don’t stay theoretical either. We talk about discipline, fatherhood, community, and learning to be honest with God about real temptations and real questions. If you’ve ever stepped back from church because you couldn’t get answers, we share how God can meet you through Scripture, wise leadership, and faithful friends. Listen, share this with someone who needs courage, and then subscribe and leave a review so more people can find the Word and say yes.

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Why The Word Feels Alive

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everybody, and welcome back to your favorite podcast, something like Sunday School. I am Purpose Williams. This is the day the Lord has made. We rejoice and we are glad. And I'm so excited about tonight as I always am because the word of God is exciting, it's delicious. Once you get in there and you just start eating on it, you're gonna taste and see that it's good. I love it because it's inexhaustible. No matter how many times you read it, no matter how much time you spend with the Lord, there's always something new, something greater to learn. The scripture is clear. We go from faith to faith, from glory to glory. And I love it. Tonight, today, whatever time you're listening, I have here with me my good sis, my godly friend. I'm so, so thankful for her, and so thankful for her. Yes, we have her. Ari. Ari, what you want to tell the people today? Hey, good people. I'm glad to be here. Thank you for having me. I'm so honored to be here. And um, yeah, I'm just glad to be here. Glad to talk about the word, glad to learn of him and spread it to his people, his children. So blessings to everybody. Yes, indeed. Now, y'all better feel blessed. As she has said it, that means so it's done. Feel blessed on today. Um, I just want to thank you for your yes. I we always um are reading scripture and bouncing uh questions around, bouncing revelations around, and it just be so delicious. I feel like I can really um nerd out with the word of God with you and me to and pick apart and co-analyze and give yourself the chill. Yeah, go back to it, all of the above, and eat on it again and some more. I just I'm just so um so thankful for it. I don't I feel like I be rambling or whatever, but uh she be like, no, but I know you brought me time sometimes. I be like, I just let you get it out. Because you let me get it out, so yeah, go forth it. Absolutely. Because it be just so good, it's so delicious, always something, something to learn. Yeah. And it's just exciting. The Lord show you those things, you be like, yeah, that is so good. And you feel like, you know, why didn't I see that before? But sometimes it don't be time, or you just be getting to learn. You be in communion. And that's that's the point of spending time with the

Ants And Unshakable Unity

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Holy Spirit as well. Spending time with his word. It's just, I mean, it really literally is alive. Sometimes I, you know, I'm looking at my Bible, I feel like it's just uh ants is is not, I'm not saying it's ants as in disarray. But you know how ants, like a group of ants, move, they just so, they're so alive. They're really mighty. Yeah, and they so in sync, all of it. It's just you can see that they're building the thing. Yeah, whatever they have determined to do, yeah, that's what they're gonna do.

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Yeah.

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So I feel like sometimes when I look at the word, I'm I'm looking at my Bible, I just feel like I'm just looking at something that's alive, and I know that I am. Yeah. But that that image and that comes to my mind all the time. The ants going forth. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And we should be glad that ants are as small as they are. They take over us. Yeah, they do. They would. I'm very glad they're small. Yeah, yeah. I've been away from me. They will overpower us. They will. They're very smart. Yeah. They're self-aware. Did you know that? They passed what's called the mirror test. Ants do? Yeah. They're self-aware. Do you think ants have the mind of the people in the Tower of Babel? Absolutely. That's what I wanted to say that. I ain't gonna say that. They that's who they remind me of, the Tower of Babel, because they're so unified in what they do. And um, you when you see them, even if you see one ant, right? You you come to one ant, the ant comes up on food, right? Yeah. If the food is too big or whatever is too big, he's gonna go back and get the crew. And you're gonna see that in line. And they are they got one job in mind. They got one thing in mind, and that's what they get a little bit. But you gotta respect it. You got to. When you look at it, you gotta respect it. Yeah. I was out there in my yard the other day, and I was um, I think I was taking the trash can. I think I saw this big ant mound. Mm-hmm. And I remember seeing it starting off little. Then I was like, hmm, I gotta um, you know, do something about that. Right. Didn't think about it a couple of days. Now it's huge. Yeah, now it's big. Yeah. Yeah, I couldn't do nothing but respect. You can do. Still gotta get rid of you, but I couldn't do nothing but respect it. Yeah. It's just, it's incredible. It's amazing. And then when they um when scientists put the um, I think it's plastic that they put down there, and they let it dry, and then they pull it up, and then they see how sophisticated the colony is. It's just incredible. It's incredible when you when you look at it. It's very incredible. And they're strong. Yeah. For them to be so small. I get all that, but I'm gonna let you have them. I'm gonna let you have the ant's revelation. I don't want them, but they they they fascinate me. It is a good, it is a good revelation. Yeah, they fascinate me. And you you have seen, well, I've seen um, you know, ant mounds, of course, in books, because I would definitely not appreciate coming up on a six-foot ant mound, or even like a six-foot uh termite mount. But you can't do nothing but respecting. It definitely makes me think of the people of Babylon. I feel like that's how they look, just doing the thing until they had did it. God said, Whoa. Wait, hold on. Yeah, I gotta uh the principal worked because it's mine, but y'all going about it the wrong way. Even the bugs doing the principle work. Even the buttons get right, children. Even the bugs, it's that simple. Yeah. It's that simple. The instruction is inside of them. My God. The instinct and the instruction is inside of them. Yeah. That's why you I definitely have a respect for animals, honestly, because they don't deviate. They don't from the instruction that's been instantly. That's why a bird flies. That's why you fly. And that's why everything that has breath will pray through. It's gonna do it. Yeah. I'm telling, I've been telling people, it is not a far-fetched idea for a rock to start praising the Lord. It's not a far-fetched idea. We think this sounds very impossible. It's not far-fetched. It's already doing it. It's already doing. You can't take my praise, though. It ain't right. You just ain't gonna say mine. You can say yours. Right, right. You're gonna do mine. Well, don't let me knock this vase up. I keep kicking it. Please don't turn nothing up.

Introducing Joseph’s Quiet Role

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Today, tonight, whatever time you're listening, we are going to uh scratch the surface of the relationship. We're really the man Joseph, Jesus' elected earthly father, who would be responsible for his earthly upbringing. Um he's just uh it's a uh what I don't even know what I want to say right here. He's just incredible looking at him, looking at who he is as a man. He doesn't even have dialogue in the Bible. And it's so easy to slide by him. But he has a very important job. We spend a lot of time looking at Mary and thinking about her pureness and thinking about her yes. Joseph has to say yes too. Right. And this is an incredible situation he finds himself in. Yeah. You know, Joseph, he could be a dude who be like, man, what my partner's gonna think? What my people gonna think? And he thought that for a second. I believe he thought that's a good one. I believe he thought that too for a split second. That's why God had the part though. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But no, it's is yeah, let's see. I feel like was he like, man, that don't make no sense what you telling me. You know what I'm saying? He had to be, because it was um, let me see. He he wanted to put her away privately. Yeah, wanted to put her away publicly, but God had to come into come to him in a dream and tell him, Joseph, this girl pregnant with the by the Holy Spirit. It's like, look, don't do this. Don't do it. Lock in the way. Lock in. I'm gonna give you strength. Right. When you're weak, I'm gonna make you strong. I'm gonna give you directions. I'm gonna be with you. He had to overlook the culture, the law, what people gonna say. Mmm, yeah. He's a powerful man. He's a powerful man. Yeah, he's a quiet man too. From what is from what I say, obedience is better than sacrifice. It's better than sacrifice. Yeah, it's better than sacrifice. It is. Yeah.

Reading Matthew On Mary’s Pregnancy

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We're coming out of Matthew, which Matthew is the first book of the New Testament, the first book of the four gospels, Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. So you should be able to find that quickly. We are in chapter one. And if you didn't know, this is chapter one is the genealogy of Christ. And we come right at his birth, right? Well, at the beginnings of his birth. We're gonna start at the 18th verse. Where it says the birth of Christ. You want to read, sis, or you want me to read? We're in KJV, also, by the way.

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Okay.

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Oh, you starting at 18. Okay, let me let me get KJV, because you know, when they do it all on baguettes, I have to read that in NLT. I like it. It makes you exercise your mouth. It does, it makes me do a lot of things. So, but just so y'all know, begat means father and all came through those. Tell the people, break it down. All right, verse 18. Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise, when as his mother, Mary, was espoused to Joseph. Before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost. And we can start right there, right? Um, the word espouse means they would be truth. It was already um established that they would get married, Mary and Joseph. And before they came together, I feel like that's self-explanatory, but they had not yet consummated the marriage, right? Right. And uh back then it was you know customary that before the woman got married, she would be a what? A virgin. So why? Why would a virgin be with child? So we already start right into what we seem like a scandal. Right. So Joseph would definitely be able to say, that's not my baby. What's happening right here? You know what I'm saying? Right. What is happening? Plus one don't equal two. It don't equal two. What is happening? Yeah. But here is the here is the operative part of the verse. She was found with child of the what? Holy ghost. Of the Holy Ghost. Let's see, let's see how Joseph takes that. Then

Joseph’s Justice Without Public Shame

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Joseph, her husband, being a just man. Okay, keep that just. And not willing to make her a public example, was minded to put her away privately. Right here, we get to see his demeanor. We get to see his disposition, we get to see his character.

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Yeah.

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The Bible tells us he's just, but we see it in action. He was like, okay, I have decided not to stay with her, but I'm not. And back then it was customary to make an example of a woman. For sure. We saw that with the uh the woman who was caught in adultery.

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Yeah.

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Nowhere does it say the man was out there that he was about to be stoned. It was the woman. Right, right. So he he in right culturally, he has the right to shame her.

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Yeah.

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And to he probably could have had her killed or anything, but he had decided himself, well, I'm just gonna put her away privately. I'm just gonna divorce her quietly. Ain't gonna make no no spectacle out of her. The next verse, verse 20. But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary, thy wife, for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost. I like to see, um, this is my observation, and um it's probably not a hundred percent correct. I will definitely be perusing again through the word, but a lot of times this is a side note. We get to see the angels coming to the men, they're usually asleep, they're usually dreaming, but most of the time when the angels come to the women, they're awake. I think Abraham was probably the only one that I remember who wasn't asleep when the angel came to him. But everybody else, I remember uh the men being asleep and he comes to them in a dream. In a dream. Mm-hmm.

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Mm-hmm.

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I'm like Joseph went to sleep with this stuff on his mind. Yeah. Well, you know it had to be here before he was. Absolutely. Absolutely. Look what the angel says, fear not to take her. So something, something might have come behind this. You know what I'm saying? So you gotta tell, he don't say, you know, just change your mind. It's cool. He says, fear not. Yeah. To take her as your wife. For which again, he has to tell her. Well, he has to tell him that this is a child of the Holy Ghost. Yeah. So in that fear not, that was to me, fear not is always a promise that I'm gonna protect you. It's the no weapon formed against you shall prosper. Today. So he, you know. And Joseph could, they don't say about, I mean, they don't really talk about, but even though he was like a carpenter, he could have been like a man of um great stature. Yeah, in a community or something like that. Yeah. For this woman to be betrothed, well, this young girl to be betrothed to him, but he could have had like a very, very good reputation. That's incredible. And you know that word about um your reputation and what people think of you, it can crush you. It can. So it can make you fearful for sure. Joseph could have had some anxiety up in there. We I love that that revelation. You could be saying, you know, I got you. Yeah, I'm gonna show you what to do. I'm gonna give you the instruction on how to work this thing out. That is incredible. Joseph had an assignment, he did. That's the thing. God, yeah. His assignment is just as important as Mary's. Right. Just as important. Yeah. That is absolutely delicious. So I think, do you think this is a little side note? Like God chose Mary, he had to choose Joseph, which is why God will choose our spouses for us. Uh-huh. Because if they were on assignment, then we on assignment too. It's heavier than he's fine. Revelate. Revelate. It's heavier than he's fine, and um I don't want to be alone. Absolutely. Yeah. Absolutely. That is a beautiful point.

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Yeah.

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You definitely, and that takes it back to um, I always think about when um men or or women of God are called to ministry. It's important that they they have the right spouse. Yeah, it is because it assignments gonna include them as well. Even their children. Even if you just gotta pray for your spouse. Yeah, you included in that person. Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. So you definitely have to be made for each other and made to to handle what whatever comes with the situation. Yeah, that is incredible. Yeah, I told y'all. I told y'all. Told y'all.

Fear Not And Obedience Right Away

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Verse 21. All right. Uh 21. And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus, for he shall save his people from their sins. Now all this was done that it might be fulfilled, which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is God with us. Then Joseph, being raised from sleep, did as the angel of the Lord had bidden him, and took unto him his wife. Man, this man has no hesitation. No hesitation. He just followed, like you say, obedience is better than sacrifice. He followed the instruction right away. He don't go and think about it some more. That man says, as soon as he got up, out of that dream, he took on there. And I believe right here he's saying he's like, Yes, I'm taking on this assignment because they were already married. So he's like, Yes, I'm taking on the responsibility as her husband and as a father to this baby that's on his way. Yeah. God bless step parents. Bless them. Bless them. Bless them. My God. And here's another part, important part right here, where we get to see his obedience to God and just his demeanor. I feel like he was just a gentle person. I feel like he was just, you know. He has to be gentle. Laid back kind of guy. He meant what he said.

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Yeah.

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You know, you could. I feel like you could trust him at his word. I feel like he was very integral. I just get a real chill feeling from him, you know? I definitely wrote that down. And he had to be gentle. Um, let's see. Even then, he didn't want to put her away publicly. So he was gentle with her. Mm-hmm. That is beautiful. He considered her. Yes. Yeah. He considered her. And the fact that he wasn't procrastinating. God ain't have to keep coming back to him to tell him the same thing over and over again. Man. The angel came and he's he was a just man. So when he saw God, he recognized the angel was God or a part of God, representation of God, however, whatever the proper way to say that. But when he saw God, he recognized God. So he had to know God. He had to know God. He had to know him. Yeah. Or I don't feel like they would have called him just. He had to know him. And what makes me know him makes me feel like he had to know him too, because the angel says she is conceived in the Holy Ghost. That wouldn't have meant anything to him. To know Randall. Yeah. If he wasn't already uh, you know, acquainted with God. That wouldn't have meant anything to him. That is so beautiful. Now another thing that struck me was um verse 22. So now all this was done that it might be fulfilled, which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet. So Joseph, even in his obedience, he is fulfilling the word of God not to turn on this woman and this baby. Because if she didn't have a husband, who knows what would have happened to her? If she didn't have that per that uh covering, yeah, who knows what could have happened to her and baby Jesus? Well, God, I'm sure God would have interrupted me right. Absolutely. But this was the way that God wanted to ever say. That's the way he wanted to do it. And this lets me know he was a part of that prophecy. Two ways. Because we see it right here saying that it might be fulfilled. But also, we see that the prophecy saying that the Savior was going to come out of the house of David. Yeah. Joseph. He's of the house of David. He is from David. He's from David's lineage. Okay, so then since he's from David's lineage, give us a little bit of the um the

Adoption And Acceptance Into God’s Family

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background or the insight about adoption. About adoption. Yeah. Okay, yeah. So I've I feel like, look here. I feel like it's just so beautiful, right? Adoption, whether we believe it or not, is a very important part of the believer's life. We don't sometimes we don't think about that. Yeah. So let's just go to Jesus right quick, right? So Jesus is here. His father, his earthly father, has adopted him as his own son. Right. We know that Jesus is the example for us, the perfect example for us. We know that Jesus came in the body. He's God in the body. That's why they say that Emmanuel means God with us. He's the expressed image of God.

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Yeah.

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God in the body. So he comes to be an example in that body for us and to deal with the things that we dealt with. We deal with in this body. So him being the perfect example, I feel like this is a perfect setup for him to show us salvation. Yeah. Because since Adam them, you know, did what they did, we came separated. We were born separated from him. We were supposed to be God's family, continuing on and on. Because Adam is the only one until salvation that is called the son of God. Everybody else, the son of whoever and whoever. And that's not because they were born from those people. He was the son of God because this is God's son who he takes the time to make. And everything that was coming from Adam was gonna be a son of God until they separated themselves from Christ. Then they had to be saying, Oh, you're your father, the devil.

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Yeah.

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So we see lineage for for more than one thing. Now y'all, y'all come as the devil's child. Right. Because they gave over that father. They they orphaned themselves. Yeah. So Jesus comes in, and he has to be adopted. And we see the strength of adoption through Jesus. So that we can see the strength of our adoption through Jesus. Jesus. By salvation. And so that's why the scripture tells us we are accepted into the beloved. It means we are adopted. Adopted in. And adopted become his child. I'm sorry. No, go. But adoption is um is no longer. Really, adoption is no longer you're my stepchild. No. You are mine. You're my son. You're my daughter. You are mine. And whatever I have, you are an heir to that. You're an heir, yeah. My name. My goodness. My money. Whatever. My time. Yeah. My time. Yeah. That's very important. That's what we that's how we become heirs too. We get accepted into the beloved. The Bible calls it the ministry of reconciliation. Reconciliation. Love is a powerful thing. It is a powerful thing. Powerful thing. It is a beautiful thing. And that's how we become the sons of God. Yeah. So good. I'm so grateful for adoption. I am grateful. You understand? And adoption really is, we know when we when we get saved, it's called we're reborn. We're born again. And that's what adoption is. Honestly, a rebirth. Yeah. Old things are passed away. All things are made new. Things are made new. That's what it is. It's a rebirth. It's a renewal. It's a renewal. You have a name change, you have it all. Yeah. Yeah. It's a renewal. Everything about you before is gone. Especially back in those days when the weight of adoption was very strong. Like now, in our civilization, where in our culture in this time, if the adoption is not closed, you can go back and find your, you know, your birth parents or whatever. But back then, all that was eradicated. Yeah. All of that was. And it just points back to Jesus. We don't honor it as much as they did. We don't. Yeah. It just points back to Jesus, though, because he eradicates our life before coming into him. It's gone. Yeah. You're under a new covenant. Don't even worry about it. Don't worry about it. You're mine. Sweetheart. Don't worry about it, sweetheart. You're mine. I have accepted you into the beloved. So the adoption is so strong that it makes Jesus a part of David's lineage, fulfilling the prophecy that the Savior was gonna come out of the house in the line of David. That's so crazy. It's beautiful. Yeah. It's beautiful. When I was younger, I didn't understand how I was like, that don't even make sense. Yeah. But like since I've gotten older and been my good sis trees, or y'all call it Purp. I've been with Perp. I had to learn the beauty of adoption and the strength of adoption. Yes. It's incredible. It is incredible. And what happens with us and when we are born again. It has so many, so many beautiful, beautiful presentations and so many, so many ways to you know present to us what that actually means. But uh back then that adoption was was so strong, it just eradicated everything. You couldn't go back and be like, oh, those are my birth parents, those are my birth, whatever. Because you're reborn now. Yeah. You're reborn. And that's why also we can we can put off um strongholds. I don't have to be a part of that lineage of that stronghold anymore.

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Yeah.

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I don't have to identify with that. I don't have to accept that. So a total disconnect from that sinful nature. Yeah. A bloodline, what they call it, um, generational curse. Yeah, generational curse. We have the power to get rid of it. Yeah. Some of them ain't generational curse, but some of them just gener generational habits. Yeah. That's another side. Yeah, absolutely. And the two could in some instances be synonymous. Yeah. Or, you know, you guys feel like that's just just what it is. It's just normal. And it don't be. Nothing normal. Nothing normal about it. Yeah. But I I have, since we've been talking about Joseph, I have come to love the story of Joseph. Mm-hmm. Yeah. He don't procrastinate and he don't. His obedience fulfilled the prophecy of Isaiah. You don't, you don't see, like you said, we don't have a dialogue from David. I mean, John, I'm Joseph. I'm calling him every name but it's Joseph. But we see this man in action, boy. Yeah. We see him in action. And that's all we needed here. Getting the job done. Just doing it. Yeah. We just see him in action. We don't see any type of procrastination, nowhere in scripture. And every time, when you look through it, every time that the angel came to Joseph and told him to do something, Joseph did it. Right then. Yeah. He didn't wrestle with it. He wasn't no God is this she who? Right. Oh, can I get another confirmation? He didn't try another way. And we run it by my friend. Right. Yeah. He got up. He got up and did just that way. He didn't try another way. He didn't do like Abraham and Sarah did. Created a whole bastard lineage. A whole nation we can't be here with. Yeah. Even not even people, those are those are their descendants. All that middle, Middle East unrest. Those are those are the descendants. We created a whole situation and still acting out the day. Verse 25.

Discipline In Marriage And Purity

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Oh, let's see. This is important as well. Mm-hmm. And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son, and he called his name Jesus. Man, Joseph named the baby. Joseph named him what that man told him, too. What the angel told him. He's in obedient. That's how we see about him. He's integral. You know how we married. We supposed to be consummating this man. Right. So now you mean I gotta wait? Right. Until she had this baby. Come on, patience and long. He's the patient and kind. Jesus. And you know that man was ready. No, he was ready. Yeah. But look what he does. And he has like the natural, natural right to be with his wife. Right. He even had the spiritual right to be with his wife as far as marriage goes, but he didn't have that right because Holy Spirit ain't just told him not to do it. Yeah. And he holds to that. He holds to that. So that's discipline. That's discipline. I don't even feel like Mary probably didn't have to be worried about being pressured or just this one time. But what they be saying, this one to be kind of explicit. Just let me get the tip. Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I don't believe it was any of that, man.

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Oh no.

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I don't believe it was. And that was a very important part not to do. Because and then this makes me let's go here on the natural side. This is why, even if you're pregnant, you should not be sleeping with no bunch of people. No. Because something, something happens. Because yeah, women are carriers and we we are takers on that side of it. Something happens. Yeah, something being exchanged. For him, yeah. For him to say, okay, wait until after this baby is born. Something happens. Yeah. Something is taking place. We don't think about. Something happens. And that will have a natural effect. It'll show up some kind of way. Some kind of way. Isn't that something? Yeah. My Lord. But this man is patient. He's obedient to God. Immediately. Some men would say that's suffering. You waiting almost a year to be with your wife. Yeah. And she right there. She already carrying somebody else's baby. Joe said. He probably well, Holy Spirit probably re like reminded him of the promise of God. And you know how words just come back to your remembrance when God give you something. And I'm sure you may have to even go to God in prayer to help him resist anything. God, you said. You said. God help me. You said. Help me. Can you speed these 10 months up, Lord? Yeah, holy go. Because no doubt, even after she's had the baby, she gotta have time for recovery. She gotta recover. And that can take months to a year. That can take depends on it. Yeah. He probably gives him all kinds of sales and stuff. I feel like he was so probably so attentive to her, though. Like every little thing. I feel like he wasn't mad attentive to everything. I feel like so too. Because he, you know, he knows he was on the side. Yeah. If God telling you that, hey, this is a savior, you just you can't just handle that no anymore. You can't handle it no any kind of way. I feel like he was attentive to her. And I feel like he was attentive to Jesus. Yeah. Yeah. As a babe. Just just man. And I feel like you saw him as his own too, as his son also. Yeah, he did. We're gonna get into that Matthew, the second chapter.

The Dream That Sends Them To Egypt

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Well, I start at the 13th verse. 13? 2 and 13. And you'll hear our little um pages turning. We do be having real Bible. Real live Bible. All right, Matthew 2 and 13. And when they were departed, behold, the angel of the Lord appeareth to Joseph in a dream, saying, Arise and take the young child and his mother and flee into Egypt. And be thou there until I bring thee word, for Herod will seek the young child to destroy him. When he arose, he took the young child and his mother by night and departed into Egypt. And was there until the death of Herod, that it might be fulfilled, which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, Out of Egypt have I called my son. Then Herod, when he saw that he was mocked of the wise men, was exceeding wroth, and sent forth and slew all the children that were in Bethlehem and in all the coast thereof, from two years old and under, according to the time which he had diligently inquired of the wise men. So right there we could see, well, 15, it moves forward all the way until he died, but 16 goes back and shows us why it was so important for Joseph. Get out! He had to get out of there. Well, Jesus, he ran the risk of being killed. This man is killing all the all the babies, two and under a psychopath. Jeesh. A psychopath. Worried about a throne that wouldn't even heal. It wouldn't even heal. He can't even live forever to see that. And he didn't even come for that throne. That's not the throne he came for. Isn't that something? I just see protection in that Joseph's obedience. Joseph leave his own home because they go to Bethlehem having the baby because that's the land where he's from. They go down there to pay taxes. So he gotta leave his home, taking his wife and the newborn son to some other place. And not only leaving, but staying there until the man die. So that he could be protected. From verse 16. My Lord. My Lord. It's obedience and taking a step. It's obedience and taking that step and doing what was supposed to be done.

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Yeah.

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It's just incredible. It's so incredible how he just followed the instructions without hesitation. And then when he arose at night, he got him up out of there. Got him up. And I I feel like that made because again, you this is the the promised, the promised uh king, the promised Messiah. No doubt this is uh an incredible task on his own, but I just know that Mary looked at him like this is really my God-given husband. That was a good thing. That was a baby. Yeah. Had to be. Yeah. And I feel like she she had a different type of um a different type of rest, knowing that watching Joseph in action and knowing that, you know, he was really following the Holy Spirit, following the instruction of the Lord. Yeah. Uh they just had to be two very chosen people. They did. And I would imagine she saw Joseph as part of the promise of God keeping her and using her. She had to. She had to. She had to look at it. Joseph had Jesus on the main line. Well, Jesus, but had God on the main line. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. He had, and you know, he was attentive to God's voice. Because every time it came to him, he got up straight away. And he knew who he was. He knew the voice. Yeah. And with no denial. No. And he did exactly what God told him to do. Every time. In order to save the world. Every time.

Parenting Jesus And Learning Wisdom

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I I often wonder, like, okay, these are the questions I'd be bouncing out of here too. I'll be answering the randomest questions, right? I'm trying to, you know, and it's it's probably just fluff, really. I'm looking at Jesus as, you know, a growing child, just a child in general. And I'm I'm sure that um Joseph, because we we said this too, that we felt like Joseph spent a lot of time with Jesus, teaching him and um having, you know, intimate moments with him, or for actual real life father-son moments with him. Right. And I for whatever reason, well, for all the reasons we said, I feel like Joseph would take time to pray and ask how to handle this. Because Jesus was kind of smart, my father. You know, like he would have to say, show me how to, show me how to navigate this guy. Cause I probably want to bop this boy in the mouth. But he got to be a certain way. So I don't want to, I don't want to try to, you know, kill what's inside of him because he gotta be who he is. Right. Jesus was a little smart mouth a little bit. Yeah. So he had to figure out how to discipline him. Yeah, and how to parent him. Yeah. Yeah, and where to, who to let him be around, you know, all the things, all kind of stuff. Yeah. Who he probably had to watch who would be around him, you know, who he would be influenced by. Yeah. Mm-hmm. And and I feel like these are valid questions because the scripture is clear too, with it saying Jesus grew in knowledge. He's a he comes as a human. Yeah. So as much as God as he was, he was human. So he has to grow in knowledge. When, and you know, I heard that when I was young. And I mean, I feel like I understood it then, but when you get older, like he has to grow in the knowledge of who you who he is. Somebody got to be there teaching him. To teach him, yeah. And to show him the way. Somebody got to be doing it. It's incredible. It is incredible. And you know, you you younger, you're not paying attention, that stuff can slide by you real quick. Yeah. And you know, you just don't, sometimes you just don't think about it. So he he has to be parented. He's Jesus, he's God anybody, but he has to be parented according to like each age. Each age, each era he's in in life. Starting from a babe and like them, like uh them pre-teen you. Yeah. They're really trying to test you. Well, I wanted to Jesus have like terrible tooth. Yeah. Because when Jesus was there. When he went back to that temple and they had to go back him, go back and find him in the temple. Yeah. Yeah, that's one mouth. I wouldn't have to put my hands on him. And then he tried to say, you know, I was about my father's business. Because he ain't wrong. He ain't wrong. Watch your tongue, son. Right. You better take a lot of beat rips. But Joseph probably took all that stuff in stride too at the same time. Cause he's just so patient. He probably took it out. He actually reminds me of my daddy. Mm-hmm. My daddy, you know, he's very chill. He's very um informative. You listen to him, you know, you're gonna tell you he's not very loud. And he's never been all this time, you know, my entire life. Yeah. Uh he's just very informative, very patient. He the one who taught us how to drive. And uh but when he speaks, you listen. When we speak, he ain't even got to whip you. No. So maybe Joseph was like that. He might have been. Come on, Mr. I feel like it, right? I feel like he was. Yeah. And uh when my dad was teaching us to drive, it wasn't a lot of yelling and hollering. And he gave us a lot of uh, yeah, he he was, he's not uh, he's not a panicky person, you know, out loud where he's screaming. I'm sure he had thoughts going through his mind, but he's not ah, you know, screaming and all this stuff. So, but even before, and we were young. I was um I was 11 when my dad taught me to drive, my brother was nine. Yeah. We were young, but he took us to he took us to Viger. We learned how to ride bikes over there too. And then my mom took us to Viger to learn how to ride bikes. We learned how to ride bikes. Uh anyway. We learned how to ride bikes in the front of Viagra. But he taught us how to drive in the back in the big parking lot back there. But before we went, he you know, he gave us all these instructions. So it wasn't like get in the car and turn the, you know, turn the, he ain't just throw us in it. He gave us these instructions. Yeah. We listened. And because he instructed us beforehand, and he had such a gentle voice, it allowed you to just take it in. And even now, like when I drive, I can hear my daddy's voice about certain things. So I remember he told us not to drive over. Like if we saw boxes in the road or something, and if we saw like a bottle in the road or something like something that you feel like you could just run over.

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Yeah.

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He was like, you know, do what you can not to ride over those boxes because it could be something sharpened, tell your tire. Sometimes people do stupid things just to be doing it. Yeah. Whatever. So whenever I see a box, I don't roll. Yeah. Yeah. I don't even care if I feel like it's empty. I do not roll over. If I if I can't, if I can't avoid it, then that's the only thing. Like the inner state of it. Yeah. But like just in general, I always have my daddy's voice when it comes in again. And then when you he taught us when you turn, don't jerk the wheel real hard. He's like, the wheel is gonna do what you what you tell it to do. You tell it to do. And he's like, you don't have to jerk it, just gently pull it. If you jerk it, you might go too far away. Yeah. Yeah. Just like his voice. Yeah, you might do too sharp a turn. He'll tell us when you when you see the stop sign, you know, coming up, and go ahead and uh, you know, start slowing down. Don't wait till you get up on the stop sign. You gotta slam your foot down and stop the car, you know. Yeah, just all these things. So it was easy for us to learn how to drive. And it wasn't it wasn't a strenuous thing, it wasn't what's the word I'm looking for? Stressful. Yeah, we weren't stressful, we weren't scared none of that. We weren't scared any of that. So um, I feel like that's how Joseph was having those intimate moments with Jesus and just teaching him things. Yeah. Uh I feel like that's mostly

The Carpenter’s Son And Identity

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told to us in Matthew 13th chapter. We're still in Matthew. In the 54th, in the 55th verse. Now, this is Jesus is grown now. Mm-hmm and he's doing the things that he needs to do concerning what he was assigned to do. And the people wasn't liking it. They was, you know, they was mad, of course, because he was turning their turning their world inside out because they was of the wrong, wrong thing. They had the wrong thing going on. He was just going around tossing these people systems up in the air. Uh there is uh 54. Well, we can start at 53. 53, I think. And it came to pass that when Jesus had finished these parables, he departed thence. And when he was coming to his own country, he taught them in their synagogue, insomuch that they were astonished, and said, Whence hath this man this wisdom and these mighty works? Is not this the carpenter's son? Is not his mother called Mary and his brethren James and Joseph's and Simon and Judas and his sisters? Are they not all with us? Whence then hath this man all these things? Look what it says right here. Is this not whose son? The carpenter's son. The carpenter's son. Joseph is called Joseph, he's even he's called Joseph's son before he's called Mary's son. Is this not the carpenter's son? Yeah. That isn't that means Joseph has a name for himself as these are my children. Yeah. It doesn't seem like he was like, that's Jesus. That's Jesus. Mary's boy, and these are our children right here together. He said they mine. They are mine. All of them. That was known in his in his hometown. That was the carpenter's boy. That was his son. It's just beautiful. It's incredible. It is incredible. And of course, this speaks to me again. My dad is a carpenter. I just feel like the Lord just has such a beautiful placement in my life. Yeah. He does. And it's just incredible. So this part, of course, always speaks to me. But and then this also speaks to God's God's position in our life too. He's a carpenter. He comes in and he renovates. Yeah. He renovates out us as mist of us as enshambles as we are, whatever. He comes in. And he renovates. Holy Spirit renovates. He's a carpenter's son in both senses. But that's a that's beautiful to me. That's so beautiful. And uh Aaron was the one who said that meant he spent time with Jesus.

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Yeah.

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I feel like he taught him things. This also, um, and I know too, this takes me to the cross. We know that Jesus is carrying the cross. I feel like Jesus was a big dude. You think he was big? I feel like he was a big dude. But of course, he was still with the heaviness of the cross. I feel like he was absolutely God powered to do that. But I feel like he was a big dude. I don't feel like he had to. Yeah. Yeah, he at least had the strength because back in the day, if you're a carpenter son, you're not really necessarily using all these tools and everything. We got to carry wide and stuff. That's right. And I say that because um my granddaddy, my dad's dad, he was a lumberjack. And my granddaddy, even in his old age, he had the biggest arms I had ever seen. And they were still, you know, quite muscular because he was a lumberjack. Because he worked with wood. And he worked with wood. So they didn't have, when he was working in Thunderwood, they didn't have chain saws. So they're literally taking the the saw that you drag back and forth across the across the chain manual. So he had these huge arms. Yeah. They were all very, they was always still very muscular. Yeah. So I feel like that makes me feel like Jesus was kind of a big dude. Yeah. Yeah, he has some size too. I feel like he had some size too. And then how big they say the cross was. Yeah. I don't, and I don't know this to be true, but I know growing up they would be like, the cross was the size of a one of them telephone poles I thought. I was like, wait a minute, was it? Right. I don't think so, but I don't know. I know it had to be big though. I definitely feel like um it was enormous in size, and I definitely feel like there was a divinity to him being able to carry that. Yeah. And especially when you look into all the things that had already happened to him. And honestly, he should have been very weak. Now he should have been very, very weak. I mean, not even being able to walk with it. Yeah. A portion of it. Right. To even just walk in general, just stand on his own two feet. Yeah. And you beat until you're unrecognizable, carrying a cross this heavy.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, you should have been weak. Yeah. Shouldn't have been able to do it. But I he was on sheer assignment. I feel like he was driven by assignment. Yeah. Driven by Holy Spirit. But uh I don't think that Jesus was physically a small guy. He wasn't no scrunny guy. No. Yeah. I don't think he was. Especially being a carpenter, like you said. Yeah. You gotta have some muscle up and now. You got to. Unless he was a slim, strong, because some slim guys be strong too. Yeah, but they still got a little muscle up there. Yeah, they have that muscular figure. What they call the sleeper build. What is it? The sleeper build. Never. Where you can't tell that a person is that muscular, like under their clothes, like just looking at them, you can't tell. Okay. That's them reading skills, y'all. My sister's reading. It's just fascinating to me, you know? Yeah. But and I know that I feel like this is this is another reason I feel like Joseph spent time with him. God wouldn't choose a man that wouldn't spend the time with him. Well, I'm gonna choose a man who's gonna abandon my children. Right. Yeah. Right. And and God is such a father to us, he definitely is gonna pick a great father. Yeah. For Jesus on his earth. So that does that represents um He'll never leave us no forsaken as well. He'll be a father to the fatherless. A father to the fatherless, yeah. A mother to the motherless. A mother to the motherless. It's just incredible because I I just you just get to see when you really read the word of God, you really get to see all the pieces just beautifully being put together. All the pieces of that promise just coming together. We even we even get to see that way back with um with Boaz and Ruth. Yeah. They're just a part of the peace. You know what I'm saying? They in a lineage. They in a lineage. But look, you know, that's why that's why Boaz is called the Kendra Redeemer, because he he sets up that line, he's finishing that line up with Ruth to bring forth David. That is, those are his great-grandparents. Those are his great-grandparents. They beget Obed. Obed beget Jesse, and Jesse beget David. Those are his great-grandparents. You just get to see all the pieces. And then we learn that Boaz is Rahab's son. Right, Rahab the prostitute. Rahab the prostitute, that has the spy. It is. It is incredible. Because, like I say, you don't, and even with Joseph, but all of them really, you don't have to be perfect. You just have to be God. You have to be God's show. And that's God with an apostrophe S. Yes, with an apostrophe S. Not possessive. You belong to him. And follow it, and you have to be obedient to him. Yeah. You had to be obedient. I got work to do. I've got work. You understand? But to know God, and I think that's what fascinates me a lot. Well, but to know God to the point where as soon as He speaks, it quickens in you. And you get up and do what He says to do. You get up and do what He says. That's what we want from my children. Yeah. Just do what I say. When I call your name, say ma'am, or either come here immediately. Right. Immediately. I ain't no E in of y'all, but immediately. But yeah, we get that from the Father. We get it. We get it. That's what we want. I'm gonna go back to Matthew 1.

Genealogy Details And Name Echoes

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And I saw something that I felt like was uh interesting. I believe that was Matthew 1. Oh yes, it was Matthew 1. I'm gonna go this is in the begettes. So this is Genie Jesus' lady. And he breaks down you know everything, honestly. But right here at uh I just seen that. I just saw it rather. Verse 15, and Uliad beget Eleazar, and Eleazar beget Matthew, and Matthew beget Jacob. Jacob beget Joseph, the husband of Mary. Now when I first was reading that, I was like Jacob and Joseph, that made me think about Israel. Jacob and you know, that Joseph back then. Yeah. I felt like that was interesting. And I was like, wait a minute, because I know it's not the same people, but I felt like that was interesting. That Jacob be Jacob beget Joseph. Yeah. Just like Joseph, who gives us the 12 tribes of Israel. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that is interesting. But that's not that's not the same, too. I found like that was interesting. It may have some correlation though. I'm sure that it has correlation. Yeah, that it really set off a ping in my mind. Yeah. That's a lot to go into them. Yeah, even in Revelation. They are. So yeah. Sure are. They could represent the beginning and the end as well. Yes, they could. But I just thought about Jacob how how we be recycling names throughout families. Yeah. We got there from the Lord. Like nothing new under the sun. Man, look at Jesus, his brother's name is Judas. Yeah. That's crazy.

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Judah.

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He got a brother named James. We see a lot of the names recycle. And it goes back to, I feel like they be shouting back to just, you know, normal family stuff. But of course, there's another. It's another. There's another. And I just can't wait for the Holy Spirit to show it to us. This is the stuff that excites me. That's why I'm never intimidated by when I'm reading the word and I don't understand something. Or, you know, I feel like something might have got past me. It's exciting when the Lord showed you. Yeah, it is. And I'd be like, oh, okay, you know. That's what's up. Like, sis, I don't mean to ramble about it. Absolutely. It'd be good. It'd be so good. It be so good. And that's why, you know, you don't have to be intimidated when you're reading the word and you might not understand. It's feeding. First of all, it's feeding your spirit man. Right. The spirit man understands. That's where it's got to start first, anyway. Then it's going to spill over into that natural. And you can ask God, God, what do you mean by this? Right, right. What do you mean by this? I noticed this right here. What you were saying right here. And a lot of things can happen. God can tell you right then, or he can use somebody else to tell you. It happened a lot when I, especially when I first came to my church right away. I had questions in my heart that I had had in my heart years, decades. And I didn't even ask the man of God about the question. Yeah. This man kicks off three questions. The Lord used him to kick off three questions that was in my heart in one service. One service that I felt like I couldn't ask anybody. Yeah. That makes it so sweet to me. It be sweet. To me, it's sweet. It's so wooing. It's sweet when you ask him and he answered you right away. Yeah. But then like it's a different kind of sweetness when you ask him or you think it and you forget about it. And then he brings the question and the answer back to your remembrance at the same time in a future point. I'm like, oh. And it'd be so good. Y'all, God do not forget about you. He don't, and it'd be so forget about us. It'd be the simple things. Like you said, it'd be the simplest thing, but it'd be so, so incredibly sweet. It is. So endearing. And it's like, dang, yeah, you really heal me. Yeah. And you really love me. And you really love me. And it was so, it was so

Hard Questions That Kept Us Away

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incredible for me that that's how I know. And you know, some of you may not know. I had stopped going to church. Uh, and I grew up in church. Grew up in the Lord. I stopped going to church because of the questions I had. I felt like nobody could answer them. Uh and I just, well I was like at odds with the Lord. Like, I would say at odds with understanding. Yeah. And because of the misunderstanding, it was like a wedge between me fully trusting him. Yeah. And me just, you know, doing my own thing or whatever. Yeah. But I just wasn't fool enough to let him all the way go. Right. But I was. Thank God. Thank God. Yeah. But those questions I had kept me out of church. And I'm talking about for years. Yeah. Like, I know four, four or five years. And so when I went to the right way, I knew that it was going to be my church. When I walked in the door, it was so strong that I wanted to turn around. For real, because I had got used to being out of church and doing my own thing. It was so strong that I was like, man, I want to go back home. And I knew that it was rebellion. And uh when in that first service, it was like the love was just knocking my head off the swivel. Boom. Boom. Like, come here, little girl. Yeah, yeah. Now that you're in here. Come here. And Pastor said, he's like, I don't know why I'm going down this street right here. So because of that first service, every time he said that, I knew that my ear should perk up.

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Yeah.

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And I felt like it was for me.

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Yeah.

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So in the Lord used, I had to tell you I wanted the questions. Right. And I did, I did an episode on this one. But one of the questions I had in my heart was, why was um, why do bad things happen? And especially to seemingly good people, right? And uh, and I just couldn't, I couldn't get with it. I couldn't get with the the answer that people had given me. I knew it was stupid, and I did not agree with it, and I just felt like it was unfair, I felt like it was dumb, I felt like it was all the things.

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Yeah.

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And uh, and I could not, for the life of me, say that God was a good God wholeheartedly. Yeah. I couldn't say it. Yeah. Because of the answers that I knew. It was the logical, it was not logical. It never sat right with my spirit. Yeah. None of that. So I felt like, can I say? I mean, he's good, but you know, that's how I felt. Anyway. The Lord took me to a movie that I love, and I always wondered why I love this movie so much. And that movie is Beauty and the Beast. It was Beauty and the Beast. That's a movie, y'all. That is my movie, Beauty and the Beast. Uh, and I couldn't understand for the life of me. I used to feel childish because I love that movie so much. I did. And uh, he ain't stopped me from talking to about it, but I did feel childish. But um, the Lord used the illustration, he he gave Pastor this illustration, and then the Holy Spirit took me to Beauty and the Beast. So he was like, um, because Adam had rule over the earth, God gave them dominion over the earth. That's in Genesis. So when they separated themselves by eating of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, it cursed not only them, but the place that they had dominion over. So that was why they led all those crazy things into the earth. Yeah. So we are still feeling, you know, the repercussions of that decision. Yeah. Even now. The earth is still growing. Yeah, so I was like, yo, that is crazy. Now I've I had an understanding. So that was the first layer. Well, that was the second layer, because the first layer when I came in, I knew it then. So the melting had already started. The melting of the ice had already started. What is this? What is happening? I'm used to the freezer. So that that layer was just incredible to me. Yeah. Yeah. It was incredible to me. I feel like I had that, that, that Holy Spirit explanation sufficed. Yeah. It fed my spirit, and I was like, okay, I can rock with it. It was softening you up a little bit. Yeah, it was making that little ice melt. Oh no. I didn't, uh, you know, I had got used to that to that thing. And you will. I got used to that ice. Yeah.

Beauty And The Beast As A Gospel Picture

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I got used to it, and I was cool with it. I was just lukewarm. Lukewarm. Finna be spat out. Lord have mercy. Mm-hmm. But when he said that, Holy Spirit took me right to beauty and the beast. And then check this out. Y'all gotta go listen to that episode. I was finna say the N-word. The Lord is delivering me. That dude's name is Adam. Yeah. His name is Adam. Didn't know that. Yeah. Until a few years in. Yeah. But the Lord took me right, right to that, to that movie. Yeah. And when Adam, they call him the prince, his name is Adam. When the prince, which means he was the ruler of that place he was over. Yeah. Right? He had dominion over that place he was over.

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Yeah.

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He had dominion over that. So when he he got himself cursed, everything that was under his dominion was cursed, down to the grounds outside. And it gave a beautiful visual of how it happened to him. As soon as it happened to him, that the palace and everything was white, beautiful, red roses. Everything went dark. And he just went through the even the trees. Even the trees. It became, yeah, it became overran. Wild vines. And I had an evil feel. Yes, it had an evil feel. Gothic. Yeah. It was cursed. It very much had a cursed feel. And everything, all the people that was under his roof, cursed. Yeah. Turn into some foolishness. Turn into foolishness. Because why gotta be a duster? A feather duster. Why gotta be a chest of drawers? Right. Sir, fix yourself. Turn them people into candles and clocks. But that was such a beautiful thing. And I was like, oh, that is why I love that movie so much. Yeah. That is why. And then when I got deeper into the movie, found out the man's name was Adam. Then this man dies. He dies for this girl because he loves her. Yeah. You guys, and then he got stabbed in the side. So what was that? Um It was the cross. The man laying down his life. For free. Yeah. God so love the word. Yeah. While we were yes, since Christ died for us. So how long did you have those um questions? You said about five years. Oh my God. No, that was decades. I had to be in like. Oh, so that was decades. That was since you were younger. Yeah. I had to be about 14, 15, somewhere in that 16, you know, your conscience really started waking up. Yeah. And then you have another level of questions. You know what I'm saying? But he showed me that. Then he showed me deeper into the into the movie. Yeah. That dude died. He got pierced in his side. He died. And then he got back up again. And after he got up, that man was reborn.

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He got up.

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Right. Mm-hmm. And so when he got back in relationship, got back in his position that he was in, the whole castle got free. Yeah. Down to the grounds outside. And everything looked heavenly. It did. Yeah. Beautiful. Back to his original state that it was supposed to be in. Probably better. Probably better. It was better because now he done found the love of his life. He had to Yeah. It was just incredible. Yeah. It was incredible. And I was like, Lord, you are so good. Then that's how I knew that the Lord could talk to me in a different level. I felt like we didn't have conversations. I feel like the Lord and I didn't have conversations like that. Before that. Before that. Yeah. Well, we weren't really talking about it. We weren't taught to have a conversation. We were taught to just read it. Like praying was re reading the word and ask God for something, but keep begging God. And it was just our conglomeration or stuff. It was just confusion. Yeah. It was confusion. We was taught that everything the Lord had to say was in the Bible.

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Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:25

So I wasn't looking for a conversation with him. You weren't looking to hear his voice. No. Yeah. Then I was at odds with him. I felt like I was at odds with him, so I weren't trying to hear it anyway. Yeah. Even if I felt like he taught that probably, and I'm sure he was talking. Yeah. But you know. Well, I guess our our spirits weren't tender enough to hear his voice. No. First, because we didn't know he had a voice that we could actually hear and feel. Didn't know it. Yeah. So. But that's why it's important to read that word. It's important to read. And it's important with church that you are assigned to that you go to that church and you are under the leadership. Yeah. Just like with Joseph. Yeah. Just like with Joseph. It's important. And to let it let God into your heart in order to read his word and know his word and understand his word. You gotta let God in to soften you. Yes, you do. The Bible says you need a heart of um flesh, not a heart of stone. That's right. In order to receive him. Maybe. And I had a stony heart. Yeah, I think we all went through a period like that. That thing was stony. You definitely left church for a little bit. Build up. Still was. I left my old church and dated right way for about I probably dated right way at least, at least three years, I'm gonna say. Yeah. Just played around. That's crazy. Mm-hmm. But I was getting fed. I was like, this is amazing. It's a delicious cuisine. Like, yeah. I saw like um, we ain't gonna get into it, but I saw like how the sunbeams come, you know, when you're in the morning and the sun is rising and the sunbeams shine down on the earth. That's how it was when Pastor was preaching the word that right way. Oh wow. Yeah. So I was like, I don't know. I don't know if the heavens had opened up, or I don't know how you would say it. I'm telling you, like, yeah. I I bless God for him because I am gonna tell you this too, I'm gonna go back to the things you were saying was important. It's important to ask. Yeah. We be told not to question God. It is important to question him. But they say don't question God, but when they pray, they beg him to do stuff. And you ask him, right? Yeah. And the scripture is clear, ask. You ask it with aggravation, because please stop it. You don't want your kids begging you. No. But yeah, it's important to ask you. It's important to ask. God, what do you mean? Yeah. God, what about this? God, what about that? Mm-hmm. I should ask, I should be able to ask my daddy anything. God, what say ye? What say ye? What is this? Yeah. Why is this? Yeah. What is that? I'm gonna tell y'all though, um, about the asking. So I asked God, does he hear um I don't remember how I phrased the question, but basically, does he hear like different types of prayers? If you pray inside, or if you just think something, if you just feel something, and God literally told me, I hear all of them. He said all of them. And so just, you know, you do have to you have to learn that you do have to use your mouth for some things, but even those ponderings that you have in your mind and your heart, or those conversations you have with your good sisters and brothers in Christ or family members, whoever it may be, like God hears that. Yes, he does. Yeah, and he will honor that for you as his child. There was a um, there was a group of

Community Prayer And God Hearing Thoughts

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group of women in the Bible, or just a group of gathered. And Michael. And they was just having a conversation, yeah. And God blessed the conversation. That's why, too, he tells us not to forsake to assemble ourselves together. There's there's a power in assembling, there's a power in community. There's a power in being brothers and sisters in Christ. That's why the enemy is on this tangent to get everybody alone. Right. To be social media stuff, be by yourself. You can't be bothered with nobody, and there's certain people you don't need to be bothered with. We understand that. But you need community. You need community, you need family. You always gonna need it. Yeah. You always gonna need Malachi, not Michael. Malachi. I think it was in Malachi. Um you keep talking, I'm gonna loot it up. No, you I'm just saying, you know, you always need people. I even uh there are moments um for me when, you know, dealing with stuff, dealing with life, you don't always necessarily, your heart is talking to God, but you might not always be able to verbalize, or you might not feel like verbalize.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:11

I text my good sis, pray for me, girl. Lift your lift your sis up. There's those are the moments that you need community. You need somebody that can pray when you can't. You need somebody to be able to, what what does the scripture say? The friend is the friend is born for adversity. I need to be able to say, hey, you know, I'm feeling this, I'm feeling that, I'm dealing with this, I'm dealing with that, being challenged with this, challenged with that. Yeah. And the Lord gives you that community so you can say, hey, I need y'all. And not even sometimes not even in prayer. It could be natural things, it could be tangible things. Sometimes you just need somebody to listen. Yeah. Just sit in their presence and you don't have to say nothing. Right. You don't have to be so deep. Uh it don't have to be deep. We play games and that's enough. Or just sit on our phone. Yeah. Y'all, me and Trice look old women. We just sit on our phone and send memes. But you need that kind of person. You do. Um, you know, like I have a few people where I just know I don't know what it is, but I know that something is nudging me to pray for them. And I don't have to go into detail and pray for them, but I just give what, like repeat the scriptures of God over them. Um like the seeds of the righteous are delivered unto them. God, you loaded them daily with benefits and you added to them with no sorrow. Um, it's your desire that they prosper and be healthy as a soul prospers. So you can say things like that. Or if you have a heavenly tongue language, just do that. Yeah. With that person on your mind and your heart. That person on your mind and your heart. And like you say, God, God speaks to speaks to the people that are connected to you for you. All the time. We'll we'll be talking to each other. You'll say, the Lord had you on my mind, or this or that. I prayed for this and I prayed for that. Uh, I dreamed about this, I dreamed about that. We we can, you know, get together and pray, we can rebuke things together. Yeah. We could call, even when uh she and I were getting our homes, we talked about the conviction, the confessions that we wrote up, right? All kinds of things. And we often talk about uh with a heart of gratitude, the things that we had said we wanted. And now we we living in the prayers. Yep. It's just incredible, you know what I'm saying? It's just incredible to have that community. Did you find the scripture? I think I did, but I'm trying to. Okay, let's see. Maybe it's 15. And say, yea ye say, wherefore, because the Lord hath been witness between thee and the wife of thy youth, against whom thou hast dealt treacherously. He had a residue of the spirit. Female God, too. That he might seek a godly seed therefore. Uh-uh, that ain't it. Well, we are fine. We are fine to y'all. And the Lord's gonna show it to you. It's so funny. You want me to tell him about this? What? When we was talking about Jesus after he rose from the dead. I don't remember. Go ahead. And they didn't uh they didn't recognize him at first when he went back to the disciples. Go ahead. She's gonna remember love because we were talking about uh teleportation. Is it teleporting? Um yeah, when you be in one place and then in another. You remember now? And we were talking about Jesus. A little. We were talking about uh when the enemy was trying to tempt him and then he was showing him this and showing, he was showing Jesus this and showing Jesus that. So we started talking about teleportation, right? And uh so we was wondering, like, dang, was Jesus like teleporting, you know, here and there. Yeah, and then we got to the scripture after Jesus had rose and he was with the disciples, and they didn't recognize him because uh, you know, he wasn't really showing himself like that. And they said when they recognized and they finally knew who he was, he vanished from there. And we were so tilted because we wasn't even reading that scripture, but we had already talked about it. We was reading in Genesis, yeah, and that was the way it was it in Matthew or John. It was in one of the gospel, it was in one of the gospels, and it was so funny. And we went right to the scripture. So he's gonna show it. So those those are the things that let us know he be listening. We know anyway. I got it in here somewhere. Cause I put that um, I put a sticky note on it. You did? Yeah, I did. I'm trying to. I'm still trying to find it. Cause yeah, I be wanting y'all to get the scripture, y'all. Yeah. That dunk was so funny. And it tickled us. I think it was John. Jesus and the disappearing act. Yeah. Like Jesus, like here it is. I found it, y'all. It's um Luke. Let me see. There it is, right there. This is Luke 24. Luke 24 and 31. Well, let's start at 30. And it came to pass as he sat at meat with them, this is the disciples, he took bread and blessed it and broke it and gave it to them. And their eyes were open, and they knew him. And look what he did. And he vanished out of their sight. And you ever seen um Mr. Deeds? And then you know what I'm talking about. One of the guys on there, he just used to vanish whenever he got done talking. And the little sound he'll go pew and he'll be gone. So I definitely feel like that's what the sound, that's where they got that sound from when Jesus vanished in front of them people. Sound like somebody I know, too. It does done. Who is that you know that be doing that game? Purp. Say purple ninja, baby. It'd be so funny. He slide in and out. In and out.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:37

Since you gone, yeah. Gone.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:39

I'll be down the street. Yes. On my field road. And hit a block, and we just getting out of church. Just realizing. The Lord is He's trying to um He's trying to help me with that too. Stop vanishing. I was doing good for a while. You be hanging out after church and everything, talking amongst the people. And then now You done got better though. I have. You have gotten better. I have. I feel I feel good about that. Yeah, you have gotten better. It's so funny. I the people be calling me a ninja. And my children, my students, they think I'm a magician. It be so funny.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:22

Stealth. Stealth.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:26

It'd be incredibly funny. Is it Micah? That's why I just turned the mica. I thought I had it highlighted in my body. We probably do. I might have to get it. Get it for next episode. Yeah, we'll get it. We'll get it and bring it back to you. Because it's gonna bother me. It is. The Lord's gonna give it to her too. We're gonna be talking about something random and it's gonna come up. Yeah, but God hit all of it. So you do.

Honest Prayer And Real Temptations

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Ask him. Have conversations with him. I've learned over these past couple of weeks. We did a fast in, was that January? And that was the most honest uh with God that I have been. I'm just saying, like, just regular coming, like I'm sitting here talking now.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:10

I really, I really don't like that. Or Lord, I really want this, you know. Oh God, I feel or I don't feel, yeah. And this is the most honest I've been with him. I didn't realize how honest I could be with him. And we might as well be because he knows anyway. Yeah. But we have to be in conversation with him. That's what he wants. That's how conversing works. Conversation between the two. Between, you know, whoever, but specifically, we're talking about you and God. And you can tell him anything. You can ask him anything, inquiring about anything. It was so funny. Um when pastor, uh Pastor was trying to show us how honest we could be with him. And this is probably, I think he said this maybe like two years ago. What did he say? He said he was talking about, you know, abstaining or whatever. And you know, he, you know, every now and then he'll send out this warning about abstaining, and then like, you know, it'll come out of nowhere, you know, while he's teaching and whatever. Yeah. And uh, you know, he just be is is a warning. Warning comes before destruction. And he's like, Yeah, I better, you know, heed my words or whatever, because every time I get this warning, somebody don't listen, somebody turned up pregnant, or somebody have a baby on the way. Never fails, right? So he was like, You can uh you can tell God you dating that person, you dating these people, and that body starts waking up, and you can say, you gotta say, Lord help me, because I really want to get them. And I was like, Oh my god, it never occurred to me that you can say stuff like that. You can tell them, help me, help me, help me, Lord, chill it now. Don't do it. I need to be the do your works, Lord. Chill it, don't kill them. What dumb say, Lord, you got to marry me. What dumb say, Lord, you got to marry me. Marry me up, man. What you say? I done ready, I done ready. But that time took up me. When he said that, Lord helped me because I really want to give him some. Yeah. Yeah. That's for real, though. That if yours is not sexual, if you want to find it. Yeah, it can be anything. Yeah. You really want to push them. You want to cut it. Yeah. Lord, I'm tired of stealing cars. I really want to do it though because I can see how to do it. But I don't want to steal cars on anything. Thrill of stealing. Yeah. Yeah. Anything. Or just laying around all day. Anything. Anything. Yeah. Anything. You can talk to him about it. You can catch that thing. He told us to cast our cares on it. We just don't do it. Yeah. And it goes back to obedience being better than sacrifice. Obedience. Obey and cast that stuff on it. Yeah. He's able to handle it. I don't care what it is, what question you got, what situation you got, he's able to handle it.

SPEAKER_03 1:24:15

He can handle it. Yeah, that's what the song says.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:18

That's what you say. He can handle it. Which that obedience brings me back to Joseph, which is fascinating. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You don't second guess him. Nope. He moved. He moved. He moves with authority and with um promptness. Yeah, and surety. He just went about it. Yeah. Because that fear not was a surety. It was surety. Fear not. And because he moved, because he acted in obedience, he was able to fulfill protection for Mary and Jesus and the rest of the bloodline. Fulfill the promises of God to us, like I was praying about it um earlier today. And I was like, God, just thank thank you for Joseph. Because if Joseph would have acted out of God's line, if he would have been misaligned with God, then I wouldn't have had the chance to be saved. Wouldn't have had the chance. Yeah. Anything could have thrown it off. Yeah. So every piece mattered. Every piece. And that's that's that can be encouraging to us. The assignment that God has given us, we need to be on task. We need to be on assignment. We never know. Yeah. The peace we play, you know, the part we play. Yeah. In somebody's road to salvation. Yeah. In somebody's redemption store, somebody's ministry of reconciliation. That's what the scriptures say. He has given to us the ministry of reconciliation. We got a part in this thing. We do. He told us to go forth. It's the Great Commission. We gotta be obedient. Obedience is the secret place. Secret, secret place. You still got that shirt. I do. That was a good one. It's the secret place of the most high God. Secret place. My God. But I I'm just so excited. I'm just so glad to have this opportunity to spend time in the world and to enjoy it. You know?

SPEAKER_03 1:26:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:22

To just enjoy it, to discover and rediscover, to understand, to be revelated. Too is just an incredible privilege that I am excited about. I'm excited to be able to share it with you guys. With my with my good sis Ear. I'm excited that she's sharing with us. She said, um, I told her I'ma I'm gonna grow up and be like her. She's she's younger than me, but she's older than me. Good. In the Lord. Maybe what where was where were we? We was on another episode. I don't even know if it was recorded on that episode, but um Myron said, uh, give you a yes to the Lord. And y'all, it just eased out of her. And it was so genuine. She was like, and my yes is his. I was like, oh my God. Is my yes his like that? So so easy. I had some work to do. Yeah. All I can give them is my yes, yes. Yes it what I said. I don't have to be perfect, I just have to be his. Just gotta be his. Yeah. Let me call it spirit jobs. They be telling me stuff. I'd be like, I said what now? Yes, it eased on that area. It was so beautiful. It was beautiful. Yeah, bless the Lord. It really was, but I'm so thankful.

Read The Bible And Send Questions

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Hopefully, this has inspired you, has made you intrigued to go back and read. Right, you know, read about Joseph, read whatever Holy Spirit has been telling you to read. I promise you, He got something for you. It's a meal, y'all. It's a five course meal in there. It is. It is. Eat on it. The scriptures clear. Take, eat. Taste and see. Taste and see. It's good. Whatever the Holy Spirit has tugging on your heart to read about, just open the Bible. Open it. If you feel like he ain't giving you anything specific to read, just open it. Yeah. It's all for you anyway. And I'm gonna add this. If you open your Bible and you find something that is intriguing or you do not understand, reach out, send, send a message to Purpose Williams on Facebook. Oh my God. Look how she did. She has knowledge, y'all. It's oh, it's heavy. It's deep and it's heavy. It's a word in there. I don't know if it's glory. Evangelism or prophet or what, but it's in there. Jesus. It's rising up. Lord. Somebody done sold and somebody done water and then God getting the glory. Well, yeah. Y'all send us some questions and whatnot. Absolutely. We'll see if we can or she'll see. We. We. We'll see um what the Lord says if it's something we should answer. Yeah, and we're gonna give you his answer. And I really was putting that on perp, but some kind of way I didn't drag me. That's right. We bless God for it. Yeah. She said the right word first. We. We yeah, you can inbox me, Purvis Williams on Facebook. You can inbox the page. Something like Senderschool. You can email us, something like SundaySchool at gmail.com. We look forward to it. It excites us. And if we don't know, we're gonna say we don't know. Yeah. We still waiting on the answer. If we know, yeah, we're gonna share this as God gives it to us. Yeah. Don't look for no sugar coat. Right, right, right. Yeah. Right. Right. Because the word is a two-edged sword. It's a two-edged sword. And it's on sharpening. You don't always be gentle for us. Right. Oh, oh, she said, ooh. I'm like, uh. Is that a soup chair? Yeah. Little switch. A little stain thing. But it be good. It's for reproof. Yeah. It's to grow us up. Bless them. Faith to faith, glory to glory. Alright, y'all. Share with your family, your friends, and especially your enemies. It's the Bible to bless those that curse you. Send it to them. Send it to them. So we'll see you guys next time.

Closing Track And Final Blessing

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First, I'm gonna hit my ease.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:46

Then I'm turning in the same day. I mean you gotta glorify the most high if you really listen. No need in driving on the empty tape. School with plimits. Ain't no pressure, just to talk. Revealin' truth in his walk. When the footprints in the sand look way more mighty than yours. No shame in holding on to his shoulders. When life get heavy, it's bowls. The vessel would be made available. That's what he told us. All glory to God while we go on this journey. Put all into your speeches. We decree that you have made us worthy. We still listen, so Lord, talk to me. And protect me from the ones who throwin' south to me. I'm never afraid of people finding little faults in me. Cause I'm tight with the redeemer. Just take this walk with me. Or come talk with me. I'm here to shed his light and do my best to be reflection of him at all times. And even when I fall off his honesty in my eyes, I'm not a perfect person. I'm the first to admit it, but he paid my tuition. So I just had a lonely.

SPEAKER_00 1:31:42

First I'm gonna hit my knees. Then I'm tuning in a Sunday, Sunday school. I just had a long week. First I'm gonna hit my knees. Then I'm doing in a Sunday, Sunday school.