How can we as parents disciple and train our children according to scripture?
In this episode, Brody shares some thoughts from Proverbs 22:6 and how we can raise our children faithfully. Children are controlled by their sinful nature and at times their enabling parents. Their discipleship as Christ-followers should be our number one priority.
Let’s lead by example and show them what it looks like to follow the Lord.
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How can we as parents disciple and train our children according to scripture?
In this episode, Brody shares some thoughts from Proverbs 22:6 and how we can raise our children faithfully. Children are controlled by their sinful nature and at times their enabling parents. Their discipleship as Christ-followers should be our number one priority.
Let’s lead by example and show them what it looks like to follow the Lord.
Resources:
Please leave a review on Apple or Spotify to help improve No Sanity Required and help others grow in their faith.
Click here to get our Colossians Bible study.
This past weekend I had the incredible privilege of sharing and teaching on the very important topic of parenting, and so that's fresh on my mind right now and I thought it'd be good to maybe this week, in this week's episode, talk about that. I had, I think I'd referenced a week or two ago, that we're going to be addressing some uh, we're going to be talking about the element program at SWO. We're going to have some element folks on here that's coming up. Um, also going to going to tackle an episode or two challenging men to biblical masculinity, biblical manhood, our responsibilities, and also that that'll be good for moms who are raising sons, because I think it's very important. And so I'm looking forward to all of that content and bringing it to you.
Speaker 1:Element stuff, some different things about Snowbird Summer Programs, some interviews, some stories Plan to have actually a special guest to me. I'm going to have a couple of my kids, my older kids, join, but today I want to talk about parenting and there's going to be nothing in here that we haven't covered in the past, but I think at least every year, every season, we need to come back to some of these principles. I think it'll be very helpful. So thank you for listening and I hope that you get a lot out of this episode. Whether you're a parent or not, I hope, if nothing else, you learn about the fatherhood and the father heart of God that we, as mamas and daddies, can emulate, but that we, as sons and daughters, can learn from and appreciate and love. Welcome to no Sanity Required.
Speaker 2:Welcome to no Sanity Required from the Ministry of Snowbird Wilderness Outfitters. A podcast about the Bible, culture and stories from around the globe.
Speaker 1:All right, first things first. Before we get into the content of the episode, I do want to let you know that maddie and colt christmas have moved. They moved this past weekend. We celebrated um, this exciting season of life for them, last thursday at swo with uh uh. Everybody came together for a big meal. All of the swo families were together and we just had good fellowship. Probably it was probably close to it was probably a hundred people there with families included. Um, and then we prayed over them Friday morning, their last day of formal work here on the property.
Speaker 1:But the good news is Maddie is going to continue to um work on. She's going to continue to edit these episodes, and I'm very grateful for that, because I'm not easy to work on. She's going to continue to edit these episodes and I'm very grateful for that, because I'm not easy to work with and Maddie is one of the most chill, calm, low key people I know. Don't get me wrong. She got a. She got a fire plug. She can pull if she needs to. She's she can. She can get intense, but she is such a gentle spirit and just so patient.
Speaker 1:You got to understand the way I roll this. This this podcast is. Sometimes it's very prepared as far as the way we roll the content out. Other times it's more spontaneous, but always it's all over the place. I just, you know, I think I operate best when my back's against the wall and there's pressure. In other words, if I've got an episode that I need to drop, uh, I do better If I put that episode together right up at the deadline where I, when I'm interviewed for other podcasts, sometimes it'll be, uh, I, I've. I've been interviewed for a few podcasts where I did the interview and then that episode dropped like two months later. I think there was one where it was three months later because they're working further out.
Speaker 1:We like to roll this in real time, so I don't typically stockpile a bunch of episodes. We have done that. There've been as many as six weeks planned out. I just don't prefer to do it that way. I'd rather do it in real time and address current issues and things that are happening, and that's kind of how we do it. But but with that I go to an extreme.
Speaker 1:Sometimes and Maddie's been so gracious, she just um, she'll, she'll, it'll be, it'll be like Thursday or Friday. We're trying to, we're trying to have episodes recorded on Friday before they drop or go out on Monday. And uh, and she'll be. It'll be like Thursday afternoon and she'll say hey, just wondering if you had an episode, cause we don't work out of the same office. I don't, I don't. I see her every day, but it's usually just a drop into the media office and there's a lot of people in there. She's so good. Anyway, we love you, maddie. We're going to miss you, your physical presence at slow, but so thankful that Maddie's going to continue to um work at least through the summer, at least through the summer. We don't know beyond that what the Lord might have for her. We don't want to um, we don't want to get in the way of what God might have planned for her. When they make their move, there they are, or when they make them move their move, they have now moved. It's weird. We've been talking future tense and now it's past tense. 've moved and uh, and that's kind of strange. Um, it's going to be also kind of crazy when maddie and colt bring students and come back to snowbird. Um, uh, we've had that happen a lot, where staff members go and serve in churches and then bring those kids back. But anyway, I'm thankful that we're gonna have at least through the summer working on this stuff and we'll get to see her this summer. That'll be good, all right, I want to get into this parenting content, and this is because two weeks ago at the Respond Conference we spoke on the discipline of God in the life of the believer, the discipline of God and the discipline of the Lord in the life of the believer, and we've addressed that here before in an episode and I want to. So that kind of got me thinking. And then this past weekend, doing a parenting conference, that got me thinking that it might be good to roll some some thoughts and ideas and some content out. So I want to talk this, this episode, um, from from. I want to share some thoughts from Proverbs 22, verse six, very familiar verse. It says train up a child in the way he should go, and when he is old he will not depart from it. How do we take that verse and sort of build a parenting plan around that? How do we as parents, how do you know some of you that listen to this have really small kids, some of you have teenagers and some of you have kids that are out of the house that you feel, in one sense, that it's too late. Or, um, you were faithful and your, your adult kids, are serving the Lord. Now, the one thing that I appreciate about the topic of parenting when we're taking it from um, when we're taking it from the biblical, when we're taking it from the, the biblical perspective one of the things that's so powerful is it helps us understand the way God deals with his sons and daughters. The scripture says that we have been, that Jesus is the first born among many brethren, and we've been given sonship through Christ. So our relationship to God is that he is our heavenly father and Jesus is our older firstborn brother, even though he was not created. He's always been. But that word firstborn means he has the status of the preeminent child, the one who is, who is over all things, and so that that picture of God as our father for a lot of us is difficult, because maybe you didn't have a dad, or maybe your dad was abusive, or maybe your dad abandoned you. Um, maybe your dad was, was too passive, or maybe he was passive, aggressive, and no doubt, uh, some of us have fathers that did a phenomenal job, others have fathers that did a terrible job, but none of us have fathers that were perfect, and so we tend to project onto God what we received from our earthly fathers, and we tend to project onto Jesus what we learned in marriage between our parents or lack of marriage. You know, if mom had multiple relationships and there was never a stable constant, you know, presence of, of, of an earthly husband to her, then it's hard to understand the role that Christ plays in as as the, as the bride of Christ, and our relationship to Jesus, what that looks like. So you've got these. So it can be confusing if you're a new believer. There's places in Scripture where we're described as being brothers to Christ, other places where we're the bride of Christ. These are all images to help us understand the nature of our relationship to God. But one thing that is very clear is that God is our Heavenly Father. Even within the Trinitarian or triune existence of God, we have father, son and Holy Spirit. So God is our father. What do we learn about the way he parents? I think that's important. And then we reflect that if we are parenting, we reflect that. So let's walk through Proverbs 22, verse 6, and just give you let's see one, two, two, give you two thoughts. Now we're obviously going to break them down and if we need to go long, we'll do it in two episodes. It's funny I don't have it planned for one or two. We're going to see how this goes. Okay, a couple of thoughts before we dive into it. One, understanding this that the nuclear, what has been referred to and I think this might be a secular word the nuclear family is under attack. Your patriarchal roles, headship of fathers, all of that's. Not only it has disintegrated in society, but it's also under attack. And whatever you bring to the parenting table, if, even if you come from a model that is really biblical, you have to deal with the pressure of a society that's trying to repress and oppress God's design for the family. So we do have our our social and cultural and societal hurdles, but in Proverbs 22.6, we've got a simple instruction. There are other passages of Scripture Colossians, ephesians that address parenting, throughout the Proverbs. There are other verses and sections and passages, but this is sort of. To me this is the quintessential passage on parenting. We've looked in the past. We did a deep dive into the relationship between Jesus and the father at the baptism of Jesus, and we looked at principles of God's fatherhood, the fact that he was present, he was articulate, he was speaking, he was communicating, he was identifying with the son, he was expressing love of the son, he was expressing approval of the son, and we receive all of that as sons and daughters. But in this Proverbs verse we get sort of the quintessential, I think, parenting. I mean, if you could sum it up in one sentence, this is it, but it seems simple Train up a child in the way he should go. When he's old, he'll not depart from it. But we can unpack this. So first let's consider the word train and then, second, we will consider the promise that's in. So there's a command and a promise. Train is the command, and when he's old he'll not depart from it is the promise. So let's consider the command and then let's consider the promises. Parents, I want this to be super simple and practical. Now we learn from from I believe this is from secular psychology that there are, or maybe sociology, but anyway, there are three phases of parenting that I think are good to sort of compartmentalize. First phase is what we would call the cop phase, okay. Second phase is what we would call the coach phase. Third phase is what we would call the counselor phase. Let's unpack these. If we're going to train a child, let's sort of understand what this succession or progression looks like. The cop phase is going to be the phase from about from birth to about age eight or nine, and this is when you know when a child is young you tend to have a. Your biggest responsibility is to I guess you could be divided into nurture and care and then enforcing the laws, enforcing the rules You're teaching that child. Your will doesn't control my will. I'm not enslaved to your will, but you are enslaved to your will. Listen, people, this is important, critical that during their early stage and development of a child's life, you have to teach them that you are not a slave to that child's will and that they cannot be a slave to their will. Are you are not a slave to that child's will and that they cannot be a slave to their will, that they they need to submit their will to the better authority. So, as a good parent, then they need to submit to my authority ultimately, because I need to submit to the authority of the heavenly father. If I don't do this, if I don't teach you and sometimes we'll call that breaking the child's will, but what we're doing is we're breaking the power of slavery that that will holds over that child. I hope that's a better gives you, cause it, cause it it. We. We can kind of cringe when we think, ooh, I got to break this kid's will. I don't want to break their will, and we kind of confuse that with maybe like breaking their spirit or breaking them down and it's like, um, I don't, I don't know. It's important that we understand we're not breaking them in the sense that we want to crush them, but we want to break the enslaving power of their will. So when we say we're going to break their will, that's what we mean we're breaking the enslaving power of their will. Okay, now, two thoughts on that, two observations. One and this is we need to understand this, to understand how this works. Number one they have a natural sin nature. Everyone's born into sin. So this child is born sinful. I do not have to teach this child how to do what is right I mean whoops. I do not have to teach them how to do what is wrong. I have to teach them how to do what is right because their nature is sinful and they're enslaved to that sin. So that's number one. Number two I have to be careful. Number three, that I'm not enabling or emboldening that child. So if I don't break the enslaving power of that child's will, then that child will be conditioned by their sinful nature and me enabling him. Imagine a child that is controlled by their sinful nature and an enabling parent. Have you seen that Some of you are guilty of that? I can tell you right now there's two or three little toddler kids running around at Snowbird that are like that. Now, in a healthy community of faith, then those things are going to get sorted out because you're going to have some accountability. Now the reason I bring that up is not to there's not. I'm not trying to throw some parents under the bus. I'm saying in a healthy community of faith there's a good accountability, there's a. You know, there's everyone sort of taking part in the shaping of this child as they're raised. I know that with my kids. I'm very thankful that a lot of people played a role in shaping them as they're growing up. So if I don't get this right, if I don't get the cop phase right, then they're going to become conditioned by their sin nature and by me enabling that sin nature to exert its power and will over this child's emotions and actions. Now, areas that I would say you could look for this to glare and sort of stand out would be in the way they treat their mother, the way they learn to share and the way they respond when they're spoken to. Pay attention to that. If you want to do a quick test, how am I doing in this area? Well, how does that child talk to their mother? By the time a kid can articulate sentences, they should know that if they smart off to their mama, there's going to be swift, immediate, loving but firm repercussions that are painful, so that they become conditioned not to smart off to their mama. That was a hard and fast rule always has been in my house. You're not going to smart off to your mom. You're not going to be disrespectful or defined or ugly to your mother. You're going to show her love through kindness, gentleness and obedience. Then how do they share? Are they? Do they? You know this one's hard and some kids are much harder to teach in this area. How do they share? Are they willing to work through sharing something that they have? And then, how do they respond when you speak to them? Do they shut down? Do they fold their arms, do they lock their jaw and do they? You know how do they? Those are areas that we can sort of measure. How am I doing in this area of the cop phase? And then I need to remember that no two kids are the same, so this may need adjustment from kid to kid. You may have one kid that looks dead in your eyes every time you discipline him and another one that sheepishly tucks his chin and sort of looks away, you know, and and won't do what he needs to do. Um, so and then to to. To parent differently from one kid to the next in that regard is not inconsistency, it's wisdom. You have to there. There may be one child that requires a little bit firmer hand and another child that requires, um requires a much gentler touch to achieve the same end or result. So that's cop phase. Okay, the next phase is what we would call the coach phase. Now, if I've done the first stage, well, then around age eight or nine, there's going to start to be a transition by the time they're in, and some kids are obviously more mature than others. They, they learn quicker, um, that's how it is. But somewhere around eight, nine, 10 could be 11, as, as you know, if they're a slow developer, then somewhere in that range I'm going to, there's going to be a shift, let's. Let's say it this way there's going to be a shift in the dynamic of the relationship. Okay, let's say it this way. There's going to be a shift in the dynamic of the relationship, okay, a shift where I'm no longer just enforcing the law, freeing the will, bringing discipline, which we'll get into discipline later. Bringing discipline which means sometimes chastisement or punishment for actions. You know, fleshing out consequences to actions. But I'm going to move into, if you, if you just think about the words we're using, a really good coach has a hand of discipline in a, in a athlete's life. They, uh, they, they have authority, a voice of authority in their life, but they're also handing. You know, there's a lot of responsibility laid on the shoulders of the athlete to go out and learn how to serve, learn how to hit that ball, learn how to you know, learn the fundamental movements, learn the offense, learn whatever it is to to, to hone their craft, their skill. The coach provides guidance with some consequence, sometimes a stronger heavy hand, other times just encouragement. But the dynamic of the relationship changes a little bit and they're maturing and that should last into the teenage year. Well, into the teenage years, you know, probably, uh, kids that really develop um at a fast rate, that are more mature than by 16, they're going to start transitioning Um kids that are slower to develop than definitely by 18. You got to, you got to start transitioning them into the final phase, which is the counselor phase, somewhere around 16, no later than 18. And I'll tell you, I've got, I've got one kid that at 16, that kid was so mature that I felt like I was, I was, I was, I felt like we moved from coach to counselor earlier than than most situations. And you'll see that you'll find that. And then the others have one kid that I anticipate. You know, this is probably going to be a little slower process. Um just depends on how they process information. Think how they're emotionally built, how they're you know, how their life experiences have shaped them. But you got to shift into that counselor role, um, and that's where I mean really, from the time they're 18, they're legal adults, they leave the house, they go off to college or school or the military or whatever Um for the rest of their life. Hopefully you get to play that role. Now we know that's tricky. A lot of our listeners have adult children that don't care what they have to say, um, and then there's also the trickiness of you. If you're a, if you're a dad to a daughter, or mom or dad to a daughter who marries a man, that then becomes sort of, you know, takes that biblical role of headship in her life, then she's not going to lean on you for a lot and he, he may not lean on you for anything he may feel, you know, threatened by you or self-conscious or you know, whatever it. I'd say it's a pretty unique dynamic when a young man will ask his father-in-law for counsel, but it does happen. But you want to preserve the relationship as best you can. So that not preserve it but cultivate that counselor role where, if nothing else, you're able to just speak into life experiences, um, and help help them navigate those things. But definitely the counselor role will be most vibrant in the transitional period from, say, 18 to 25, or 18 to 22, 22 if they go to college, 18 to marriage, something like that, and then you should, lord willing, you always have some sort of a voice in their life. So that's sort of the phases of training, train up a child. Now let's unpack this part of the verse. Train up a child, that word child. And if you go to the Greek you've got a couple of different words for child. One is called huios and one is called technon, and and and and the the usage of the word child and old. See how, in Proverbs 22, six, it says train up a child in the way he should go when he is old. That word child can be zero to 18. And depending on huios or technon, how one has to do with a little child, one has to do with a human who is sort of the. It can refer to all phases of childhood. So, like right now, I am the child of my mother, even though I'm way old to be called a child, right so, but I'm still called her son or her child. So train up a child and the way she'd go when he's old, he'll not depart from it. What he's saying is train up that child through the cop phase and the coach phase and then, when you're in the counselor phase, or when that child is an adult and old, and he won't depart from it. And something that I love to point out here, um, that I learned years ago from a sermon that my father-in-law did on this verse gosh, when we were first starting snowbird, and I went and drilled into this and and I mean he had nailed it with his exegesis and his study here. The idea is that it's. It's a cool observation he would always point out and I really appreciate it. There seems to be train up a child from zero to 18, and when he is old, from 12 to death, he won't depart from it. For you parents of younger children, if your kids are already grown or they're already 16, then this is not going to be really so much of something that okay if you're, if you're not a parent yet, or you have an infant or a child or a toddler, that's, that's really small and young. What he's saying is you can have that child remain faithful from 12 to 18. In other words, through the teenage, adolescent years, it's possible that a kid not not depart from the training of scripture and the admonition, nurture and admonition of the Lord. So that's kind of cool. So train up a child, and there's the way we do it. Then um other passages to go look at, or the the episode we did on the fatherhood of God. The father was there, the father made his presence felt. The father was speaking. He was associating with a son At the baptism of Jesus. He's expressing love and pleasure. Then Colossians 3 and Ephesians 6 give us some clarity on how parents are to basically live by example, give them time and attention and make their discipleship as Christ followers your number one priority. This is more important than travel baseball. It's more important than cheer. It's more important than band. It's more important than teaching them to make money. If I'm going to raise them, bring the ideas, bring them up, bring them up in the nurture and the admonition, the cultivation of the Lord. Then I think three. Let me break this down three simple things. I'm gonna break this into threes. The first three is to simplify Live by an example you would want your child to follow. That's number one. Number two give them time and attention. And number three make their discipleship as Christ followers your number one priority. That's more important than travel baseball. And then if and then the. The next thing that I think well, I'm not going to get into now. This would be its own episode that we're going to follow up with in the near future. It would be um one aspect of parenting that I think we really parents, need instruction and we get a lot of requests for this would be in the area of discipline or punishment, you know, and I would just say this we need to discipline for discipleship. If we're training them up in the way they should go as Christ followers, then my discipline should be principled, it should be discipleship driven and it should be strategic. I need a plan. It's not just impulsive, you know, and so that's that's important. Again, we'll get into, we'll get into that in depth in a later episode. Let's, let's unpack. Let me give you a couple of thoughts here on discipline that I think we don't have to drill into. We save this for later episode, but let me at least give you sort of some points towards what that conversation would look like. I need to discipline effectively. I need to discipline consistently. So effectively and consistently. In other words, don't just discipline, don't just yell or beat or slap or you know whatever just not thinking about't just yell or beat or slap or you know whatever just not thinking about. Is this effective or not? Again, it goes back to understanding, training up a child. Require there's, there's wording in there in the original language that implies I need to study how this child is wired and I need to. I need to discipline them effectively for the way that they're built emotionally and psychologically. And then I need to be consistent, I need to stick to my word. I need to do what I say as a parent. The reason for doing all of this effectively and consistently is so that I can maintain fellowship with the child, and I'm always working to reconcile broken fellowship. Discipline is always to restore broken fellowship. It's never to bring retribution or revenge or to get them back for something they've done. Um, yeah, so if that, hopefully that makes sense, okay, let me, let me. I want to wrap this up here. There's so much, I've got so much content laid out from this past weekend and I don't want to go down a deep, deep dive. Y'all give me some feedback. If you want me to follow some of this up, um, all right. And then I just one other thought that I would say that you might want to go dive into on your and do your own study would be you. You got to teach on biblical sexuality. This has to be intentional. They need to learn it from you. They need to not learn it from the culture or from Tik TOK. You know, um, that you. We need to teach goal setting, teach biblical manhood, biblical womanhood, teach the biblical view of gender. The sexes need to teach, uh, a complimentary believe, role or view of marriage where men and women have God's brought us into the marriage with different but very complementary views. I mean responsibilities. And then one quick before we go to the second, the final point. So the first point all this is still under train. Train up a child. There's the command. Before we go to the promise, let me say this to grandparents command. Before we go to the promise, let me, let me say this to grandparents as grandparents don't overstep Uh, and I know a lot of grandparents get frustrated cause they want to speak into things, but it's hard to know how to do that Um, but but believe that you can pray and encourage and love and support and have a voice. And if you're a grandparent I think of sweet, sweet Miss Diane at Red Oak Church who listens to this and there's a shout out to her. We all love her so much If you have grandchildren who are not being raised in the nurture and the admonition of the Lord and you're a grandparent that gets an occasional voice in that kid's life, then use that time to just love and encourage them and read them from you know, for the storybook Bible. Just just really take the opportunities you have and then trust the Lord that he's going to do a work in that kid's life. Okay, now train up a child. There's the command Number two. The final thing this is kind of we're going to get. The number two is the promise and this is going to be the conclusion train up a child in the ways, the way she should go. When he's old, he'll not depart from it. In other words we've already touched on this the word child and old are overlapping, so that double covering and protection during the teenage years Listen, trust that God is going to be faithful to your obedience If you train up and raise up a child in the way that God has instructed you to, with discipleship as the priority. Yeah, you need to teach them how to work. Yeah, you need to teach them how to manage money. Yeah, you need to teach them what delayed gratification versus instant gratification looks like. But, most importantly, teach them to love Jesus and mirror it and reflect it and show it to them. Church should be important, it should be a priority Time and the word should be a priority. They these things matter and live a consistent manner of life and then pray for your kids. Pray for them, and the conclusion then is that there's a promise here that there will be a point where they will faithfully follow the Lord and not depart from the instruction you've raised them with. My prayer for you is that, as a parent, you would do this well and do it faithfully. And, uh and I believe you will now let me know if if you'd like for us to come back and do literally dedicate an episode to discipline, principles of discipline, practical application to discipline and we'll do that in the near future. If we get enough feedback, we'll probably do it anyway, but how quickly and more urgently we do it will depend on the feedback we get from folks. Hope you guys have an awesome week. Dad gum Springs here and I'm so excited about it and I love it. So the snowbird uh, swo summer staff SWO 24 summer staff will be arriving next. Let's see. Next Monday we start our staff training, right? No, I'm off Two Mondays In two Mondays. Yeah, the 13th, that's right. Next Monday should be the 6th and then the 13th is when our staff training begins. So please be praying for the SWO staff. We're really excited for them to be coming in here. We're going to be training them, be doing some episodes on how we do what we do, the mindset behind what we do, and, uh and man, what, what a cool and wonderful thing that God would call out a couple hundred young men and women to serve and labor for the gospel here at SWO this summer. And I want to close this episode by talking to you a little bit about the Snowbird Leadership Institute, because that is sort of the engine that drives Snowbird's conferences and retreats from August to May. That's the young men and young women that run our ministry throughout the year and that who, without them, we couldn't pull this off. And all those kids came into the Institute out of the summer staff program. So they serve here in the summer and then they have the opportunity to apply for the Institute. And the Institute is incredible because I think of it as a training program that has four pillars or four facets. We train them in leadership, we train them in in ministry, we train them theologically and then we train them vocationally. So they're going to work, they're going to have time worked in, they're going to spend time in a department maybe maintenance, maybe food service, maybe marketing, maybe media recreation. They're going to learn how to work, if they don't already know how to work most of them already know how to work. But they're going to work. We're going to do leadership development. They're going to learn how to speak and articulate the gospel, but also how to lead people in a small group setting or how to get up and give a message or a talk or a lecture, even if they come in very uncomfortable talking and communicating in front of others. They are going to learn how to disciple by being discipled. But then also the Leadership Institute is an accredited program and also the Leadership Institute is an accredited program and so students that come and spend a year in that program or two years in that program, they can get college credit for that. That transfers to any. There's a number of schools about any Christian school or university. So Liberty University, north Greenville, columbia International University, union University, schools like that. But then all of the Southern Baptist schools, southeastern, new Orleans, boyce, which is the college at Southern all of those schools will then accept the transferred credits from kids. Now our primary partnerships are with New Orleans Baptist Theological Seminary, the college, the undergraduate program there is called Level College and the college at Southeastern, which is in Wake Forest, north Carolina, and that college is the undergraduate program that feeds Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary. So we have a program here where, if you've got a young man or young woman that's wrestling with what comes next, you don't want them to lose momentum in terms of their educational pursuits, but traditional trip to college is maybe not the best thing for them, or staying at home and getting a job and going to community college or online school is not the best thing for them. Then consider the Institute, and, uh, I'm going to have some Institute students on here, um, as we're going to have some element students on here to talk about it. Um, so they, they study under the solid exposition of scripture in both worship services at snowbird and in the local church. So we plugged them into church ministry, um, and then again classes on the Bible theology, church history, apologetics. Again classes on the Bible theology, church history, apologetics. And you go to the website and see where those classes and credits are all accepted. So wonderful program the Snowbird Leadership Institute, and there's typically about 30 to 35 students in that from August to May, and if you've been to a Snowbird event, you've had those young men and young women work with you and you probably see what an incredible program it is and how effective it is. So thank you all for tuning in. It's going to be an awesome week. It's a good time to be alive. Jesus is on the throne. Joe Biden's crazy Donald Trump's somewhere out there, not too far. The world is insane right now. People are losing their minds. We have crazy leadership in Washington, crazy leadership in most states. I can tell you, the hope for our future is not in any candidate, it's not in a man, it's not in a woman, it's in Jesus and, thanks be to God, he's still on the throne. And if you've got sons and daughters, I want to finish this with a promise. You've got sons and daughters that have strayed or walked away from the Lord. Be faithful to pray and speak when God gives opportunity. Don't force anything. Trust the Lord to bring them back, to bring them back. And if you've got young sons and daughters and you're still in the early stages or throes of child rearing, then follow these principles and when they are old, they will not depart from it. And that's a promise from God. You can trust it. All right.
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