'80s Movie Montage
Breaking down our favorite decade of flicks. Hosted by Anna Keizer and Derek Dehanke.
'80s Movie Montage
Adventures in Babysitting
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In this episode, Anna and Derek chat about the "dangerous city" mythos, the oceans apart between 15 years old and 17 years old, and much more during their discussion of the Chris Columbus flick Adventures in Babysitting (1987).
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Anna Keizer and Derek Dehanke are the co-hosts of ‘80s Movie Montage. The idea for the podcast came when they realized just how much they talk – a lot – when watching films from their favorite cinematic era. Their wedding theme was “a light nod to the ‘80s,” so there’s that, too. Both hail from the Midwest but have called Los Angeles home for several years now. Anna is a writer who received her B.A. in Film/Video from Columbia College Chicago and M.A. in Film Studies from Chapman University. Her dark comedy short She Had It Coming was an Official Selection of 25 film festivals with several awards won for it among them. Derek is an attorney who also likes movies. It is a point of pride that most of their podcast episodes are longer than the movies they cover.
Just relax. Stay calm. Don't panic. What do you want? Just want to help you. Don't listen to him. He just wants to scrape our faces off. What, you're scared of this? You kids must be from the suburbs.
SPEAKER_01:Whoa, and welcome to 80s Movie Montage. This is Derek.
SPEAKER_03:And this is Anna.
SPEAKER_01:And that was a guy with a hook for a hand who was just innocently trying to help out some kids from the suburbs in 1987's Adventures in Babysitter. Wow,
SPEAKER_03:well done. Thank you. Yeah, I... wanted that particular clip.
SPEAKER_01:You called it immediately.
SPEAKER_03:To be played, yes, because I happen to also have grown up in the Chicago suburbs, and that just struck me as very funny because I do think there's very much that mentality. The friends of mine who still live out there, some of which are in the suburbs, some of which are in the city, my friends don't take that attitude, but There is totally a segment of the population that kind of fears the city and doesn't want to go into, air quotes, the city. Yeah. So that struck me as being very funny. But what also, sorry, this is going to be heavy on my own experiences because of the nature of this movie. But also I thought it was funny that the kids that are from, quote, the suburbs, they're from Oak Park, which, yes, that is a suburb, but it's not that far from the city proper. Yeah,
SPEAKER_01:I remember we'd pass it when we would be out, you know, in your neck of the woods. Yeah, right. Which felt like deep suburbs.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I was farther west.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah,
SPEAKER_03:yeah. But if you're on the Ike, you would come from where I grew up and then you'd pass Oak Park and then you'd continue to make your way into the city. And Oak Park, honestly, is not as, like, removed as where I grew up. And it's Quite progressive. Frank Lloyd Wright.
SPEAKER_01:I don't think it's taken him an hour to get there and back.
SPEAKER_03:No,
SPEAKER_01:no, no, no, no, no. Not from Oak Park. Not
SPEAKER_03:from Oak Park. So in any case, there is a lot that, you know, I loved about this movie because of its connection to Chicago. So sorry for that aside. We'll jump in because I'm sure there will be other asides. I'll try to space them out. But yeah,
SPEAKER_01:that's what I do. That's all I do.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:You
SPEAKER_03:do great.
SPEAKER_01:Thank
SPEAKER_03:you. So Adventures in Babysitting, like you said, 1987. And as far as the writer on this, we have a lot of like kind of first timers. So for writing credits, we have David Simpkins. First time mention for the show. And this also happens to be his first feature credit. Amazing. Yeah. Yeah. He's kind of one of those figures where he's writer-producer, and that is... much, well, I shouldn't say that. I was about to say it was much more common in television, but it just happens to be common in television because you kind of get that producing credit sometimes when you are a higher writer or creator of a show. Okay. So the rest of the credits that I have for him are all television. All
SPEAKER_01:right.
SPEAKER_03:So we have, we've brought this up a couple times, The Adventures of Briscoe County Jr.
SPEAKER_01:Man, such a good show. You say
SPEAKER_03:that every time.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. It's amazing. Sadly, it's TV and from the 90s. Right, right. So like What am I going to do about it? All I'm going to do is bring it up every time.
SPEAKER_03:That's okay. You can continue. Just say how much you love it.
SPEAKER_01:Love that
SPEAKER_03:show. Roswell. Charmed. Okay. This one, I would have been interested in watching. The Lizzie Borden Chronicles. The
SPEAKER_01:Chronicles of
SPEAKER_03:Lizzie Borden. I imagine it was like maybe a reimagining of, to some degree, of that history. And then more recently, Woo Assassins.
SPEAKER_01:Okay.
SPEAKER_03:So that's it. David Simpkins. Okay, so moving on to a really well-known figure who we have brought up, but not for his directing credits. Chris Columbus. Gremlins,
SPEAKER_01:right? Yes. Yeah,
SPEAKER_03:yeah. And as well, the Goonies.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, okay,
SPEAKER_03:yeah. Yeah, he was involved in that as well. So really well-known figure has definitely... I mean, he's not... He's not to pit directors against each other. So I'm not going to go ahead and be like, oh, he's not like a Spielberg or Scorsese. But he's done really well for himself in the kind of genre of film that he's well known for. So this, I think, kind of... I mean, this actually was his first directing credit. So this kind of kicks off, you know, probably most people know him... He's probably the most popular, I would guess, for Home Alone, for the Home Alone movies. Okay. And he just is really good at, I guess, what you would call family fare.
SPEAKER_01:That makes sense. When I'm looking at his filmography, that checks out.
SPEAKER_03:And he isn't just strictly a director. We mentioned that he wrote Gremlins. He also produces a ton of stuff.
UNKNOWN:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:The one Oscar nomination that he actually has was for his producing work on The Help. Oh, okay. So that was nominated for Best Picture. Okay. But yeah, strictly speaking, his directing credits include, so I just mentioned Home Alone. He also, well, that went on to become like a franchise with several films. He directed the first film and then he also did Home Alone 2 Lost in New
SPEAKER_01:York. Oh, that movie that I'm going to believe doesn't exist. Although one of the people that's in it is no longer able to do business in New York, I hear. Jesus Christ.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I've never really been interested. The first movie, look, we both love the first movie. We go to Walt Disney Hall every year to watch and listen to a really beautiful way of showing the film, which is to say that they screen the film while there is a live orchestra.
SPEAKER_01:You know what made it slightly less beautiful the last time we saw it? Yeah, I know. I'm pretty sure someone threw up.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, it was a wild last experience. And they had to clean it. Somebody threw up during it at another point, which I fully sympathize with the sentiment of this person, but at one point somebody yelled, like, shut your fucking phone off or something
SPEAKER_01:like that. While the orchestra was playing, all I'm saying is get a grip, everyone.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, yeah. And, like, look, I won't go too hard. I assume it was maybe a child that threw up, and sometimes kids really don't know. Like, I remember being really little and you're kind of caught off guard sometimes when you get sick.
SPEAKER_01:I get it. The Disney concert hall. elicits many different reactions
SPEAKER_03:people need to bring their manners to these public events but in any case usually it's a really beautiful experience that's always around the holidays obviously
SPEAKER_01:and then also there are those other Home Alone movies
SPEAKER_03:yeah and I just haven't really been interested in watching those but to get back to his directing credits Mrs. Doubtfire and then we have so Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone that was the first one right it was yes okay and then so I'm guessing Chamber of Secrets was the second
SPEAKER_01:That's correct.
SPEAKER_03:I'm never really well versed on the Harry Potter stuff. I never read the books. But he directed both of... So he... That makes a lot of sense to me that he
SPEAKER_01:directed the first two movies. The first two were more like family feel. Exactly. Family feeling, family-ish. Yeah. And then I think the third one was the Prisoner of Azkaban. You know, the worst part is the Dementors. But... That one definitely had a very different feel because like the kids are getting a little bit older. There's like a werewolf in it. Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:So he directed the first two. Then he does a little bit of a departure. He actually was the director of the film version of Rent.
SPEAKER_02:Hmm.
SPEAKER_03:Which then there's an interesting connection between him and one of the actors in this film for that reason. Okay. Then he kind of comes back to what he's really well known for. He directs Percy Jackson and the Olympians, The Lightning Thief. That's a lot. It is a very long title. And then he most recently, which we love, I... I don't know if they'll do a third. I don't think I've seen anything come through that they're going to do a third, but the Christmas Chronicles part two. Those are fun. I love those movies. I, you know, we talk a lot about, especially during that time of year, the holiday films that we go back to. And I love that this, these movies are like new were ish, but they've already kind of become traditions for us to watch every year.
SPEAKER_01:The, the one that we didn't watch again this year, which I want to is Fat Man. Yeah,
SPEAKER_03:it is a really fun take on the Santa story. What does he say? What's the line that you always call out? You think you're the first? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Try to kill Santa.
UNKNOWN:I love that.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, so moving on to cinematography. Someone that we have brought up before, but it's been a minute. Rick Waite. Do you think that's the right way of saying that? With the E in the end?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Okay. Yeah. So he was the DP on this film and he had an incredible 80s. He had so many great films from this decade, many of which we have yet to cover. So we'll likely be bringing him up in the future again. He kind of started and has kind of, he has, I guess you should say like bookended his career with TV movies.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_03:Kind of started that way. Later in his career, he kind of came back to them. But like I said, in the middle, he has all these great films. So 48 Hours, the one that we covered, Footloose.
SPEAKER_01:That was a great movie. Everyone loved that one.
SPEAKER_03:You mean as far as the podcast is concerned? Yeah. It has done incredibly well, yes. Yeah, yeah. And we had Vossen on for that one, so please go check that one out. He shot Red Dawn, so obviously the 80s, the original Red Dawn.
SPEAKER_01:Not to be confused with the other one from some other year, not in the 80s.
SPEAKER_03:Correct. Wasn't Hemsworth in
SPEAKER_01:that
SPEAKER_03:one? Yes. Yeah. But which Hemsworth are you referring to? There's several. Moving on. Brewster's Millions, Summer Rental. Weren't you just watching that this morning?
SPEAKER_01:Man, I love that movie. That movie is so ridiculous, but so much fun. We're definitely going to have to cover that at some
SPEAKER_03:point. Yeah, for sure. Maybe in the summer. Maybe. Volunteers, Cobra, Rambo 3. Never seen either of those. I mean, I would love to do Cobra. Yeah. I think that would be a fun one. I was actually just listening to... This is probably a horrible thing to say. Oh,
SPEAKER_01:say it, please.
SPEAKER_03:You don't really need to often watch documentaries where there it's like... Kind of like a biography because it's a lot of talking heads. There might be like archival footage, but it's just a lot of talking heads. And so I will often just listen to a doc while I'm doing something else. And so this morning I was listening to the doc about Sylvester Stallone that recently came out.
SPEAKER_02:Okay.
SPEAKER_03:So Cobra, sorry. That's the connection. Okay. So anyway, Rambo 3, another connection. All right. The Great Outdoors, Assassin's Code, and... That's all I have for him.
SPEAKER_01:It's pretty good.
SPEAKER_03:Pretty good, right? Not bad. Okay. So moving on to music. Another familiar name, but I do think it's been a couple seasons ago. Michael Kamen.
SPEAKER_01:I don't remember when we covered him before.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, but you will. Oh,
SPEAKER_01:shit.
SPEAKER_03:When we get to those movies. So he's really interesting because he has a couple franchises under his belt. Now, what is always... A little bit. And I'll be, you know, forthcoming in saying that I don't do deep dives into just, like, how deep the involvement goes with following up and staying with sequels, whether you're the composer or screenwriter, because you often get grandfathered into your credits, that sort of thing. So I don't know if he was, like, really active with the entirety of these franchises. But in any case, so he's known for... Do I have all films? I do have all films for him. The Dead Zone. Oh, okay. So one of the movies that we covered with him, Highlander. All right. Yes, I remember that. Yep. That was with Josh. Definitely go check that one out. That was a fun one. What's the line from that movie?
SPEAKER_01:From, oh, there can be only one.
SPEAKER_03:Yes, thank
SPEAKER_01:you. And then there were like several sequels and a TV series. So that wasn't, they were just talking
SPEAKER_03:about- So was it exactly truthful?
SPEAKER_01:No. Okay.
SPEAKER_03:So he does Highlander. Oh, and then the guy, the real bad guy from Highlander was the voice of the monster from Ragnarok.
SPEAKER_01:Yes, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, so his first franchise, Lethal Weapon.
SPEAKER_01:We could cover- Yeah. One of those, at least. For sure. Yes.
SPEAKER_03:Yes, for sure. I was thinking like maybe we could do it around the holidays because I don't think the argument is as strong as actually the next franchise that I'm about to bring up. But a lot of people consider it a holiday movie.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, okay, okay. Now I know.
SPEAKER_03:So he is the credited composer on, I think there's just four, but he is the credited composer on all four Lethal Weapon movies. So that one. Then... The next franchise, of which we have covered the first one, I think it's maybe the only one we could, Die Hard.
SPEAKER_01:There it is, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. So kind of fun that he's involved with both of those. So Die Hard, Die Hard 2, and Die Hard with a Vengeance. He is the composer for all those. Another film that at some point I'm sure we will do, Roadhouse.
SPEAKER_01:Man, he literally pulls a guy's throat out. It's gnarly. Sounds like
SPEAKER_03:Predator. Not
SPEAKER_01:to be confused with the Jake Gyllenhaal. Oh, my God. We're going to have a new podcast. Just like just
SPEAKER_03:all remakes of 80s movie remakes. Yeah, 80s movie remakes. I guarantee you somebody has that already covered. You think? I feel like there's no original ideas left. No one had montage. Sure. I mean, people are doing 80s movies, but... In any case, okay, so here's what's interesting. So moving out of the 80s, he is the composer on Robin Hood, Prince of Thieves. And then... So I've said this before, composers often... pull double duty sometimes more than double duty in terms of like scoring a film contributing to the original songs for a film yeah and so in this case that's exactly what happened he got a best original song oscar nomination for the iconic
SPEAKER_01:oh
SPEAKER_03:everything i do i do it for you i think i heard that song so much when that film came out even though it's 30 years old i do not need to hear it again it's
SPEAKER_01:it's in my head right now right just because we brought it up
SPEAKER_03:yes and of course that's shared with brian adams um So, and this comes up again, so my guess is that they were collaborators, friends.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:So, next movie we have is Last Action Hero. Okay.
SPEAKER_01:Which I think
SPEAKER_03:just came up in the last episode.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. We can't cover it, but it's a fun movie.
SPEAKER_03:And he kind of, like, goes into this, like... part of his career where it's like this really interesting you know he goes from films like Highlander and Lethal Weapon and Die Hard kind of these like action adventure type films to not to say that they don't have those elements but just this certain kind of like niche where he does Robin Hood he does the Three Musketeers okay he does Don Juan DeMarco you know what I'm saying so it's kind of like this like thing yeah it kind of has this thing and then he gets another best original song Oscar and Have You Ever Really Loved a Woman? There you go. So he does Circle of Friends. He does Mr. Holland's Opus, Inventing the Abbots, What Dreams May Come. And then he kind of swings wide and does X-Men. So he kind of like jumps away from the certain kind of film that he had been doing for a while.
SPEAKER_01:He did. And then I think there's no greater departure from like more of those like family movies. Family friendly movies. Everything I do, I do it for you. And then Event Horizon.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Holy shit. Boy, I can't believe I missed that one. He has a lot of credits.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Okay. Moving on to film editing. So we have a duo and what's so interesting, this isn't the first time we've brought up this particular duo. Oh my God. But it's really fun because it's a father and son team.
SPEAKER_01:That is fun.
SPEAKER_03:So.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:I think we've had. brothers before as well.
SPEAKER_01:We've had brothers, we've had a married couple that was no longer married, but those are the directors. But I don't know if that was
SPEAKER_03:like the editors per se. I think those were screenwriters.
SPEAKER_01:That's it, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:In any case, so it's the Steinkamps. So we have Frederick and his son William Steinkamp, and... There is a lot of overlap between their credits because naturally Frederick kind of brought on his son. A little bit of nepotism going on there, but that's not anything unusual at all for this industry.
SPEAKER_02:No.
SPEAKER_03:And, you know, to his credit, William eventually gets like his own Oscar nominations. But let's start with Frederick, the dad, because obviously his career precedes his son. So he has some credits there. Before his son was even part of the industry, he was the editor on The Unsinkable Molly Brown. He gets an Oscar win for the film Grand Prix. So he does that. Then he gets a lot more Oscar. He never won again, but he gets a lot of Oscar nominations. So he gets an Oscar nom, all editing, of course, for They Shoot Horses, Don't They? We've mentioned that before.
SPEAKER_01:Three
SPEAKER_03:Days of the Condor. So here's the film that we brought up with actually more than one film, but the first
SPEAKER_01:Tootsie. Yes, that's where that is. Is that the only one? No. Oh. It's not the only one. Okay.
SPEAKER_03:So he gets an Oscar nomination for that. And actually that coincides with the first credit that I have for William. So William also got
SPEAKER_01:an Oscar. He started with Tootsie?
SPEAKER_03:Well, I don't know if that was like per se his very first credit, but that's the first credit I have listed for him. Okay. So now we begin to see overlap. And I mean, William... His career continues after his father's, so it's not all completely the same credits.
SPEAKER_01:I'm glad that he was able to achieve all this against all odds.
SPEAKER_03:Well done! Well done. That was great. So yes, they do that together. They also do Out of Africa, for which they share another Oscar nomination. Here's the other film that they did together that we've covered, Scrooged. Oh, okay. Yes. So they do that. They do The Firm together. And then Frederick's final credit is the remake of Sabrina. So he does that. It's an okay film. Go
SPEAKER_01:see the original. The one with Han Solo?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, that's the remake. But the original, you can't beat Humphrey Bogart and Audrey Hepburn. And William Holden, for that matter.
SPEAKER_01:It's tough. Yeah. It's tough, too. Three heavy hitters.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, so now we're moving on to William. However... Tootsie, Against All Odds, Out of Africa, Scrooge. So those are some of the ones that he did with his dad. Good job, Billy Steinkamp. Exactly. He gets his own Oscar nomination for The Fabulous Baker Boys. So he does that. And then some more of his own credits, Scent of a Woman, The Firm, Time to Kill, Heartbreakers, which I've brought up is like super silly, but I do enjoy that movie. Yeah. Is Sigourney Weaver in that? She is in that. Yeah. Yes. So those are the Steinkamps. Okay, moving on to the stars of the movie. I think of everybody here, only Elizabeth Shue is a familiar name. They're all familiar names to some degree, but she's the only one we've covered before. So she is the lead, of course. She is Chris. She is the babysitter. Such an interesting... I mean, I don't know if this is kind of an 80s thing, because if... We... Okay, so maybe they did, maybe they didn't do a remake of this because we did see when the credits were rolling that there was another Adventures in Babysitting.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, but it looks like a totally different story. It
SPEAKER_03:seemed at least from the... log line or whatever you want to call it that it wasn't the same story
SPEAKER_01:yeah it's rival babysitters have to find the kid who snuck out or something
SPEAKER_03:yeah so I don't think it's the same story but I thought it was interesting that she is 17 years old and she is so mature for a 17 year old in this movie and I don't think they would portray a 17 year old the same way today
SPEAKER_01:you don't even really find out that she's 17 until like maybe what midway through the movie correct so the whole time leading up to that based off of how ridiculously older her boyfriend at the beginning looks compared to her. Like you, I thought she was like early 20. I don't know. I didn't think she was like a junior in high school.
SPEAKER_03:There is a really, well, she's a senior, but there is a really interesting line. She says she's a senior with
SPEAKER_01:the college guy. I thought she was going to be a senior like the next year or something. It doesn't really matter.
SPEAKER_03:Well, when the dude's asking her, kind of guessing what she might be in college, and he's like, are you a freshman or are you a sophomore? And he's like, well, you definitely can't be a junior. And she goes, I'm a senior.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, and then the kid, the younger kid in the family that she's babysitting is like, next year when I'm a freshman and you're a... That's weird
SPEAKER_03:because it's obviously wintertime, so I presumed that she was in the middle of her senior year.
SPEAKER_01:Was she lying to say that she was a senior to try to hook up with this college kid?
SPEAKER_03:Well, in any case, it was really strange to me that before their whole adventure part of the movie starts... Brad says to her are you going to college and she's like on the phone and so she's kind of brushing him off a little bit but she's like no and I'm like that's such a weird exchange
SPEAKER_01:and
SPEAKER_03:why wouldn't she go to college look I'm not saying you have to go to college to
SPEAKER_01:but
SPEAKER_03:in the
SPEAKER_01:80s there were a lot of movies in the 80s that were all focused on like oh my god I gotta go to college
SPEAKER_03:yeah and getting into the right college and all that risky business but in any case it that was just a really strange exchange to me that That was even a line in the movie.
SPEAKER_02:And
SPEAKER_03:I don't know if that was their little kind of like, not wink, but like indication that she was still a high school student, even though they weren't explicitly saying that. Because I don't know. I mean, again, it's hard to kind of go back 40 years to kind of get into the mindset of how people were viewing... teenager of this age. But if you told me today, oh, this 17-year-old's dating a 21-year-old, I'd be like, uh-uh. That's not okay. It's a little weird. Yeah. And that's essentially what the age difference was between her and her boyfriend.
SPEAKER_01:And he was like a 21-year-old, I guess, that looked like he was 25 or something. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:But you know what? He's really coming to his own in his older career. Yeah. I think Bradley Whitford looks great now.
SPEAKER_01:Way to go.
SPEAKER_03:He did always kind of look older. You know what's funny? I did read that's actually his car. They did actually use his Camaro. So cool. So cool.
UNKNOWN:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:I thought that was hilarious.
SPEAKER_01:So cool.
SPEAKER_03:Okay. So getting back to Elizabeth Shue. So of course, oh my gosh, this is like our third episode. It was like our very first guest, Jason. Yeah. So she's in The Karate Kid. So if you want to go back to OG 80s movie montage, you can go check out that episode But since then, and there are a couple other movies. We might have, hmm. We did Back to the Future with Casey. That's the first time he was on the show. And it was like the original film. But I know that in that conversation
SPEAKER_01:we brought up two and three. We talked about the trilogy. Yeah. Yeah, we talked about it.
SPEAKER_03:She might have been mentioned. But I know that there wasn't a focus on her per se. So some of her other work, though, I have like kind of a mix of TV and film. So earlier in her career, she was on a TV show called Cult Glory, a film that definitely we could do at some point. Cocktail.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, we should.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. It's ridiculous.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. But I mean, it's been a while since I've watched that movie, but I would totally love to do that. She does Soap Dish. She is an Oscar nominated actress. Actress So she does Leaving Las Vegas
SPEAKER_01:Family comedy
SPEAKER_03:And we brought that up Not too long ago Because we did Peggy Sue got married And we were talking about Nick Cage So Nick Cage won For that role She didn't win But she was nominated And You know Right up the alley Of what I'm not saying This is not to take away From her performance At all But that is like Quintessential Oscar fodder Oh
SPEAKER_01:really? Yeah
SPEAKER_03:Is it not?
SPEAKER_01:I don't know. I've never seen it.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, well, it's a real downer of a movie. It's not a family comedy? I don't know if you would enjoy it. It's hard to... find anything. It has been a while since I've watched it. I'm
SPEAKER_01:going to watch it today, right after we're done
SPEAKER_03:recording. Okay. I'll be upstairs. In any case, she does The Saint, Deconstructing Harry. I love that she is in Piranha 3D. Yeah, that was actually fun. Yeah, that was fun. And if I'm remembering correctly, because we brought him also up not too long ago for Mr. Mom, Christopher Lloyd was also in Piranha 3D, so they kind of re-team from Back
SPEAKER_01:to the Future. That I don't remember, but okay.
SPEAKER_03:She does Chasing Mavericks, and now I have, more recently, TV for Her So you would know this better than I would. She apparently is on The Boys.
SPEAKER_01:She is, yeah. Okay. I haven't caught up with that. I don't think the newest season is out yet, but I do remember seeing her in that.
SPEAKER_03:And is she a normal person or is she a superhero?
SPEAKER_01:Man, I don't think she's a superhero, but I think she has like, I think she is destroyed physically. by Homelander in a graphically violent, awful way. Per usual, it sounds
SPEAKER_03:like. That's why I can't really get into that show, but in
SPEAKER_01:any case. That show's crazy. I mean, look, you haven't even seen the worst things that have happened in that show.
SPEAKER_03:And the thing is that I love horror, so it's not like I'm adverse to gore, per se, but...
SPEAKER_01:There was that meme or joke about Ant-Man just like... flying inside of Thanos' b-hole. Something like that happens.
SPEAKER_03:You have told me.
SPEAKER_01:And then the guy sneezes and inadvertently changes back to regular size, exploding the person that he was in.
SPEAKER_03:Good times.
SPEAKER_01:Moving on.
SPEAKER_03:So moving on, I do think it's super fun that she came back for a couple episodes of Cobra Kai.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, that was
SPEAKER_03:awesome. So she reprises her role and I'm glad that they did that because even though I don't know Karate Kid 2 as well as the first, I've seen the first a million times, they kind of just like write off her character. They
SPEAKER_01:had a breakup.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, but then they paint her in a really bad light. Like I think she like, dumps daniel for a college guy or something like i don't know if she cheated on
SPEAKER_01:well based on what i saw in adventures in babysitting i kind of see that happening
SPEAKER_03:oh okay anyway and then um more recently than that even a show called on the verge which i don't know but there you go
SPEAKER_01:never heard of it
SPEAKER_03:okay so moving on to keith coogan so she's or i'm so sorry brad um he what i i The thing is so interesting, and this isn't to take away, we're going to get through his credits, but I do think it's worth mentioning. If you're interested in film history, he is the grandson of Jackie Coogan.
SPEAKER_01:The Coogan Law. Correct.
SPEAKER_03:So very, very important part of film history. So Jackie Coogan... He was a child actor from the earliest days of cinema. In fact, he co-starred with Charlie Chaplin in The Kid. And later on in his career, he was Uncle Fester in The Addams Family, the TV show, original TV show. So without... going too far into it you know he came from a vaudeville family his parents were also entertainers that's how he got into entertainment so young i think i read that they first brought him into their act when he was a year and a half old wow so his entire life okay uh he was in entertainment and had done you know quite well for himself for himself being a child his parents were entrusted with the money that he made um
SPEAKER_01:and it all it all went totally fine and it was a great ending to that story
SPEAKER_03:unfortunately Yeah. I'm not sure where... I don't
SPEAKER_01:know where things landed, but I know that there was... There... How does that apply towards influencers? That's a great question. Because parents have their kids doing unboxing or playing with toys or something. And they get money. They get sponsored. And is that the same thing? Would that fall into that? I don't know. That's an excellent question. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Excellent question. And there seems to be very little... From the very limited knowledge that I have, very little oversight in terms of protecting kids under those circumstances. Yeah. So... I don't know. But in any case, Keith is his grandson. And so I just thought that was really interesting. And as far as his own career, he is very much still working. Some of his credits, I have, again, kind of a mix of TV and film. So early in his career, he was on the TV show The Waltons.
SPEAKER_01:Amazing.
SPEAKER_03:I love this. So even though this is such a hard, I don't think I could ever watch this film again. So he is the voice of young Todd. In Fox and the Hound.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, man. Did I not need to think about that? And you know what I found out when I Wikipedia'd the Fox and the Hound? Is that the book that that movie was based off of is actually more depressing than the movie. Fox and the Hound.
SPEAKER_03:Makes me sad. Yeah. So in any case, he's in the film Cousins, Toy Soldiers, probably his other very notable film, Don't Tell Mom the Babysitter's Dead.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Which is so funny that he's in both that and Adventures in Babysitting.
SPEAKER_01:He's got a lot of babysitter movies. A lot of babysitter movies. Just two, but still, it's weird. Two's a lot.
SPEAKER_03:And then the rest I have TV again, Crafty, Aunt Sissy, and The Quarantine Bunch, which sounds very much like that was a pandemic podcast. project.
SPEAKER_01:He had some one-off one-episode runs.
SPEAKER_03:He has a lot of TV appearances.
SPEAKER_01:On shows such as Mork& Mindy and Knight Rider. There you go. Some amazing 80s TV shows. For sure.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, so moving on to his little sister, Sarah, who is played by Maya Bruton. She doesn't have a huge filmography. I'm not sure how much she has stayed in the industry, but she does have... Just like Keith Coogan, a lot of TV appearances. Probably her other two most notable roles. So she also, it's kind of fun, was in the original Back to the Future. Okay. So she is Lorraine's little sister. Oh. At like the dinner table. Oh, okay. So that's her. And then also the TV show, I never watched it, Parker Lewis Can't Lose.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. I know the
SPEAKER_03:title for sure.
SPEAKER_01:That character was just so goddamn smug.
SPEAKER_03:You know, I was... I
SPEAKER_01:kind of wanted him to lose.
SPEAKER_03:I was listening to a podcast, and I'm not sure, because it wasn't about... Was it? Was it about Ferris Bueller's Day Off, or was it just a mention of it? In any case, I guess it's as good a time as any to bring the movie up, because Ferris Bueller's Day Off had its own TV... version offshoot and it didn't do well i think jennifer aniston played um the role originated by jennifer gray
SPEAKER_02:okay
SPEAKER_03:i want to say and the reason i bring that up is because a lot of people compare the tv version of that to parker lewis can't lose like parker lewis can't lose was a much more successful
SPEAKER_01:tv version
SPEAKER_03:tv version but essentially the same character as ferris
SPEAKER_01:yeah um that might be why just on principle alone i said no
SPEAKER_03:And the reason why I was like, oh, as good a time as any to bring up Ferris Bueller is because this movie, to bring it back to Adventures in Babysitting, kind of feels like a Bizarro World version of Ferris Bueller's Day Off, where you have these suburban kids come into the city. And
SPEAKER_01:it doesn't go as well for them.
SPEAKER_03:It's all these adventures. But yeah, for Ferris, everything goes swimmingly. Yeah. But in Adventures in Babysitting, everything goes wrong. But it's a very similar kind of setup.
SPEAKER_01:It has a similar feel. They're in the same... They feel like they could exist in the same universe. Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER_03:And they're only a year apart. This did come a year after Ferris. I don't think... The production was probably... Overlapped. Yeah. In any case, moving on to Daryl. Daryl's a really interesting character in this movie because he's introduced as being, I think anybody would agree, pretty obnoxious.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:You think?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, he is. He very much is. Sorry,
SPEAKER_03:I'm doing his little line. You think? Played by Anthony Rapp, but he kind of tones it down as the film goes on. I don't know if you clocked that.
SPEAKER_01:He becomes less obnoxious.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:As things get progressively more real.
SPEAKER_03:Yes.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:But they really set him up with this like high bar of being kind of the obnoxious sidekick friend. Yeah. That... goes away pretty fast once they're like on the road into the city. This is his first IMDb credit. So this is very, very, very early in his career, obviously. But I have almost all films for him. No, here's the thing with him. He has done... TV and film, but he's also a very, very, very well-known stage actor. So he's been on Broadway. He originated the character, I want to say the character's name is Mark, in Rent.
SPEAKER_01:I mean, look, you get a sense of the talent the vocal talent just during the whole blues scene, right? I mean...
SPEAKER_03:He's an amazing singer. It's undeniable. So some of his credits, school ties. Now what you... I'm very curious if you realize that he's also one of the characters from Dazed and Confused.
SPEAKER_01:Oh. Oh, he's like one of the... Like the nerdy guy and then the guy that gets his... Yes, he's the friend. He's the friend of the guy that gets his ass kicked by the angriest stoner in the history of the world.
SPEAKER_03:He's the friend of the guy who's also from Saving Private Ryan who gets brutally murdered. Has
SPEAKER_01:that kid not dealt with enough?
SPEAKER_03:Jesus Christ. So he's in that. Six Degrees of Separation. He's in Twister. which has become one of our go-to-sleep movies, A Beautiful Mind. This is when I was mentioning Chris Columbus and his connection with one of the actors. This is what I was talking about, because he does also play Mark in the film version of Rent. So he does that. And then more recently, he has done TV work. He was in Star Trek Discovery.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, okay, cool.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, so moving on to Penelope Ann Miller. She plays Brenda. Brenda. Now we're getting into... the actors in this film, but I actually, whether or not you like, quote, like their characters, I wish that there was maybe more setup or more interaction with these characters. Like we have Chris and the kids the entire time, obviously.
SPEAKER_01:Sadly, her character exists solely as a plot device. Yeah,
SPEAKER_03:she does. And I wish, like they do have, look, I will say the pacing of this movie, very quick pacing. quip like yeah they they do not dwell on any one part of the film for too long
SPEAKER_01:things move along yeah
SPEAKER_03:it comes in at like i think an hour 42 so i get it especially for kind of a comedy of this sort you don't want it to go to two hours but i would have liked to have maybe seen more of the relationship between brenda and chris Because– and also understanding why Brenda– like, they have a really quick conversation. Like,
SPEAKER_01:why is she running away? Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Like, and then all of a sudden she tells Chris she's run away, which is kind of like a really serious– thing in real life like like to be a teenager and she's not even the only one like when uh daryl is taught they i don't like the way that they title her but she's titled like streetwalker um but
SPEAKER_01:well yeah
SPEAKER_03:right and so
SPEAKER_01:that's when you find out that chris is 17 right because we find out that the prostitute yeah is also 17
SPEAKER_03:that's not okay not okay uh not okay um So, yeah, I just would have liked to have seen a little bit more build up to why Brenda did what she did. And it could have been, I don't know, off the top of my head, I'm trying to think of like other ways that Chris could have been drawn into the city. Like, I don't know what else could have been the instigator for her having to take the kids in. Like, she's a good friend. She's a good friend to Brenda to be like, OK, I'll come get you. But in any case, so Penelope Ann Miller. Obviously, very young. Everybody is in this movie, for the most part. She's had a huge career. There's one really notable film that we both enjoy that she is the star of. Oh,
SPEAKER_01:The Shadow? No.
SPEAKER_03:No. What's interesting, too, looking at the filmography I've put together... A lot of films earlier in her career and then more recently a lot of television. So we have Biloxi Blues, Big Top Pee Wee, The Freshmen, Awakenings, Kindergarten Cop, Chaplin, Carlitos Wait. So a lot of range. I mean, she kind of does it all. She does comedy. She does like heavy drama. Here's the film. She does horror. The Relic.
SPEAKER_01:The Relic. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:We really love that movie. It is an interesting. Is it okay that I'm using we, collective we?
SPEAKER_01:Absolutely. Okay. Yeah. No, I do love that movie.
SPEAKER_03:And also set in Chicago.
SPEAKER_01:That's right.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. So she's in that. She's really good in that. And then more recently, like I mentioned, a lot of TV work, The Closer. There's another film I snuck in there, Along Came a Spider. A Minute with Stan Hooper. Don't know that show, but she's in that. Vanished. Mistresses. American Crime. And then most recently, Monster. Okay. TV show. Okay. So here's the next character that I really liked him a lot. He doesn't have a lot of lines, but I found him to be a really interesting character, Joe Gip. So he is the guy who steals the cars.
SPEAKER_01:Calvin.
SPEAKER_03:Played by Calvin Levels. Yes. So I find him to be a really interesting character because... He's like one of those guys where he's like, I literally just do this for a living. I'm not a bad guy, but it gets the bills paid. Like I'm kind of making up this backstory for him.
SPEAKER_01:No, I think it's a solid backstory.
SPEAKER_03:Because I wanted more backstory. Like I really liked him. I wanted to see him in more of the movie. That's why it's
SPEAKER_01:like. I'm real worried about him after the movie based on. Me too. He just like punched out this like crime boss
SPEAKER_03:guy.
UNKNOWN:Yes.
SPEAKER_03:I don't know. I know. I'm like, Joe, you're going to have to leave Chicago. There's going to be consequences. Yes, there's going to be consequences. I just thought he, and he has done some other work, not a huge filmography. I thought he had a really great camera presence.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, very much so. Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:He conveys a ton. Cause again, he doesn't have a lot of lines, but he conveys a ton through his facial expressions, just like body language. Like, you know exactly what he's thinking every single time you see him. And I just, I would have just liked to have seen more of him. I say this from time to time where like when we weren't even talking about this movie, but in the last episode, we were talking about Michael Biehn. And his character, Johnny Ringo. And I was like, I want to see a prequel with Johnny Ringo. And I kind of wanted to see something about him.
SPEAKER_01:You want an adventures and babysitting prequel focused
SPEAKER_03:on the guy? I do. Deep cuts. I do. Deep cuts. So in any case, it's just fascinating to me because sometimes you do have these movies where you have these side characters and you're like, I want to know more about them. Yeah. Anyway. Instead of these boring suburban kids. So some of his credits, we have the TV series, not Knight Rider, but Knight Watch. Oh, I don't know what that is. I don't know it. A couple films, Johnny Suede, Point of No Return. And then this has to be one of the more notable titles that I've seen for a credit. So he's in the film. Eight heads
SPEAKER_01:in a duffel bag. Yeah. Had you not seen that? I don't know. With Joe Pesci, right? Right. But his credit.
SPEAKER_03:His credit. Head of Jamal.
SPEAKER_01:He's one of the heads.
SPEAKER_03:Do
SPEAKER_01:you
SPEAKER_03:remember this? Do you remember the head? I
SPEAKER_01:don't, but I mean, there are about eight of them, I think.
SPEAKER_03:And I'm really curious, like when I saw that, I was like, okay, so how does that work? Is he at any point alive in the film? Or do you only ever see his head? And did they just say, hey, this actor has this head that we think...
SPEAKER_01:It seems weird that they would give him a credit just for the likeness of a severed head.
SPEAKER_03:Yes. Did they just literally use him as a model for what I'm guessing is the practical effect of creating the head?
SPEAKER_01:Well... Was he a
SPEAKER_03:friend of the filmmaker? And they're like, hey, can we use you? I'm
SPEAKER_01:going to have to watch Eight Heads and a Duffel Bag instead of leaving Las Vegas. You've got a lot of movies to watch today. But
SPEAKER_03:I thought that was a fascinating credit. So, okay. So that's Calvin Lovells. Okay, so moving on to somebody who has had an incredible career since this film. Honestly, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Really incredible career. Vincent D'Onofrio. What's his credit in the film? It's like Vincent something like they use his middle name.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Yeah. It's a middle name that I'm not I'm not familiar with. I don't know who that is.
SPEAKER_03:Fair.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:So I
SPEAKER_01:don't know what they're going for with that.
SPEAKER_03:He plays Dawson. So he's credited Vincent Philip D'Onofrio just in case.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, Philip Vincent D'Onofrio?
SPEAKER_03:vincent philip
SPEAKER_01:vincent philip okay what
SPEAKER_03:did i say i
SPEAKER_01:don't know i heard it reversed but that was just me
SPEAKER_03:oh okay so he plays dawson i guess the owner of the repair shop
SPEAKER_01:yeah
SPEAKER_03:so pretty young
SPEAKER_01:to be the owner of a repair shop but in any case that's only because he's so focused on money i'm sure that's why exactly he's just done really well for himself at a very young age so not giving away anything for free
SPEAKER_03:And it was a really interesting, I mean, it's kind of a cameo because he literally just has this one scene. He doesn't, like, he's not, by name he's introduced earlier, but you only see him when they go to pick up the car and he gives them a hard time for them. Look, I get it. You don't have all the money for... For the tire, which 50 bucks for a tire, that kind of checks out inflation-wise.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I think so. I think that's
SPEAKER_03:pretty accurate for what it would cost. But it is really cute, his interaction with Sarah.
SPEAKER_01:Well, because she thinks he's Thor, and then much later in Mr. Philip... D'Onofrio's career. Vincent
SPEAKER_03:Philip D'Onofrio.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, that's right. That's right. That's what I said. He ends up back in the MCU officially as the Kingpin.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. So it comes full circle, really. And it is really cute that she, Sarah's a really interesting figure. For the certain characters in this film that I would have loved to have had more backstory for, maybe outside of Chris, she does have the most backstory. She has this obsession with Thor.
SPEAKER_02:I
SPEAKER_03:think it's very cool that for a film in the 80s, they give this little girl this part of her character. where she loves comic books. Specifically, she loves...
SPEAKER_01:She's an artist, too. She's an
SPEAKER_03:artist. You know what's interesting, though? Now that I'm thinking about it, I do think that it goes back to the comic book because of the way that she dresses. But Thor is legitimately a mythological character, like preceding Marvel. So I think that her interest comes from the comic books. But for instance, when I was still... still am very interested, but like when I was a kid, I loved Greek mythology. I was obsessed with Greek mythology. So I think it is realistic that some kids just take an interest in those kinds of stories. I love that they gave that to her. Yeah. So, and, and especially like a strong, I mean, not to say that she wouldn't, you know, she could have been obsessed with Athena or she could have been, but I think that like them crossing over and having this little girl have this interest in this, like, I don't know. I just thought that was always kind of
SPEAKER_01:cool. Knowing whoever she's obsessed with is going to end up being the owner of this garage limits you a little bit.
SPEAKER_03:It does. It does. Did I read somewhere that they were going to have the shop owner be like kind of a more masculine presented person? I think I read that somewhere, but they changed. Anyway.
SPEAKER_01:You heard it here first, folks.
SPEAKER_03:I know. We might have to cut that if that's not correct. No, no, no. We're going to have to leave that. I'll have to do my fact checking on that. But to get back to his career, early in his career, a lot of really notable film work. So he came on the scene very strong in Full Metal Jacket. Oh, yeah. So he's in that, which we could do. And he has... Incredible range because a film I really, really want to do is Mystic Pizza. And he plays this very just lovesick puppy for, oh my gosh, I'm blanking on her name. But, oh my gosh, and she's from Say Anything. Yeah. What is the actress's name? Now it's going to drive me absolutely crazy that I'm not remembering anything. She's also in The Conjuring. Help me out here, please.
SPEAKER_01:She's in all these things? Yes. These sound amazing.
SPEAKER_03:Come on, help me out with the actress's name.
SPEAKER_01:Julia Roberts? No. Lily Taylor?
SPEAKER_03:Yes, thank you. Lily Taylor? Yes. So there are a couple. in uh mystic pizza but she won't get married so but he's great in that he's in dying young jfk ed wood strange days he has a really notable cameo in men in black
SPEAKER_01:at the very opening of the film sugar in water yeah yeah he's an alien yeah he
SPEAKER_03:doesn't know how humans work the newton boys the cell and then
SPEAKER_01:he is terrifying in the cell
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I don't think I've ever really seen that movie. Really? In its entirety. With Jennifer Lopez.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. There's some like weird stuff. Okay. He's kind of, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:But I would say that perhaps his most notable role because of, I think he was on it for like 10 years, Law and Order Criminal Intent.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I think so. That's fair.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Yeah. So he was on that forever. Really good. I mean, I have not been a follower. There's so much for the Law& Order universe.
SPEAKER_01:There's a lot.
SPEAKER_03:There's a lot. And some people are really into it, especially the version of it, SVU.
SPEAKER_01:There's more of that than there is the... What is the...
SPEAKER_03:Just the original.
SPEAKER_01:Well, the original, but then like on CBS, they have their crime scene in CSI.
SPEAKER_03:CSI,
SPEAKER_01:yes. Yeah, the CSI universe. Well,
SPEAKER_03:there's all these different ones now. There's CSI. There's, what's the one with Mark from Summer School?
SPEAKER_01:That's one of the CSI ones, right? Is it? I think so. CSI Summer School. But then
SPEAKER_03:there's like a, I thought there was one with four letters.
UNKNOWN:Oh, man, I don't know.
SPEAKER_01:I don't know. NCIS. Oh, that's right. He's NCIS. Okay.
SPEAKER_03:Yes. There's like a million of them. And now there's FBI. There's too many of these procedurals.
SPEAKER_01:Procedurals.
SPEAKER_03:So he's OG. He's Law and Order. Criminal intent. He does that. Jurassic World. The remake of The Magnificent Seven. And then here we go. So to your earlier point. So first he's in the TV show Daredevil.
SPEAKER_01:That's where like the Fisk... character which is the kingpin Wilson Fisk yeah that's where he like is first introduced as that character in
SPEAKER_03:between he does the film The Eyes of Tammy Faye he does another TV show Godfather of Harlem and then to your point he now like currently is on the show Echo
SPEAKER_01:yeah and
SPEAKER_03:I'm curious if at some point they're going to bring him into the film world as that character I
SPEAKER_01:wish they would I mean He is a pretty significant nemesis of Spider-Man, part of that world. Okay, Spider-Man. I think so, yeah. It's a great character. I wish they would... Look, if only Marvel would give us more movies. If they could just find the time to maybe make... They're
SPEAKER_03:so stingy with their movies.
SPEAKER_01:Just make one more and put the kingpin in it. God.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, so moving on to the love interest, the good love interest in the film, Dan. I don't know, do we get his name? He comes in so late. I know that there's like, we'd really have to workshop the script to find a way to get him in earlier. And I do like him a lot. So again, he's one of these characters where I wish we would have seen more of him. What
SPEAKER_01:a... Whirlwind romance they have.
SPEAKER_03:Whirlwind, the very definition of. So played by George Newbern, he is the college guy that Chris meets at a party, meet cute at a party. And so there's this running joke. It's a really interesting part of the film where Chris looks, I guess, really, really super, super similar to this Playboy centerfold. Playboy, I mean, you joked about it, but seriously, did Playboy... Were they an investor in this film? Because it is a significant part of the film. There was
SPEAKER_01:like a Playboy billboard. Yes, which was
SPEAKER_03:never a thing.
SPEAKER_01:That's not a thing.
SPEAKER_03:Never a thing.
SPEAKER_01:I don't think legally they could be right. I don't remember that ever being a thing.
SPEAKER_03:I don't think that was ever a thing either. People
SPEAKER_01:are just casually walking around with porn everywhere in this
SPEAKER_03:movie. Yes, because another one of his college buddies just happens to have his copy of Playboy
SPEAKER_01:on him.
UNKNOWN:He's...
SPEAKER_01:He's checking out his Playboy while at a college party. At a party. No, I think you're going to get some shit for that.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. I was like, what? And so.
SPEAKER_01:Someone's going to give it a hard time for walking around a party with your porn.
SPEAKER_03:I mean, look, I've gone to frat parties. Yeah. The guys there are not... They have maybe... Maybe they're double fisting beers, but they certainly aren't just carrying around Playboys. So it's just very... I mean, it wouldn't surprise... And like, look, I'm saying this to you, my husband. I went on a terrible first date where I went back to the guy's apartment and he had a whole collection
SPEAKER_01:of
SPEAKER_03:Playboys. And I was like, yeah, this is... And like, look, I'm not trying to shame people for whatever, but I was like, not my thing. And then the funny thing is, is that he had... a whole collection of Playboys and Maxim. I'm
SPEAKER_01:like, do you really need both? When, when you don't want anything, you just want to get like maybe 90% of the way there, but you don't. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:And he had them so prominently displayed, like literally as you walk through the front door. And I was like, Okay. Was
SPEAKER_01:there a lot of Axe body spray in this place?
SPEAKER_03:No, he also took the door off his bathroom. Oh my God. And he lived in a studio and I was like, this is not going to work out. Moving on. It's all worked out for
SPEAKER_01:us. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:So, George.
SPEAKER_01:I'm sure it's all worked out for that guy, too.
SPEAKER_03:Well, the other thing is really similar.
SPEAKER_01:Hope you got a door in your bathroom, buddy.
SPEAKER_03:The thing is really, so you used to play the trumpet. I did. He played the trombone and he was really trying to get me to play the trombone. I was like, look, I am not musically inclined. I'm not going to be able to produce any. And he was really upset with me that I wouldn't even try. Anyway. So Dan tells his friends, no, she's not this playboy centerfold. And he like, you know, throws her a compliment, says that she's like way
SPEAKER_01:cuter. That's what everyone. Yeah. Everyone, the car thief, everyone who looks at it. looks down at the thing, looks at her, and they're always like, this lady in the magazine. Doesn't hold a candle. Yeah. Can't compare to you. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:So they're both
SPEAKER_01:good guys. They all had the same line.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. So probably his other... Well, okay. I shouldn't say this because the thing that I know him from also came really early in his career. He's the boyfriend slash husband in the remake of Father of the Bride. Oh, okay. So that's what I know him from. But he's done a ton of other stuff. A lot of... TV work and actually a lot of voice work. So he was on the TV show, The Boys Are Back. He does the like, not remake, or I should say sequel, not sequel, sequel, Evening Star. I think it was supposed to be kind of its own story, but it really is a sequel to Terms of Endearment. Oh, okay. Yeah. You know what? What? And we just binged this. He was on a couple episodes of Friends, but I don't remember him.
SPEAKER_01:Maybe that's why he looked familiar. Because when I saw him in the movie, in Adventures in Babysitting, it seemed like, man, this guy looks super familiar. Maybe that's why.
SPEAKER_03:My guess is he must have been a love interest to one of the three female characters, but I don't remember him. In any case, so he's on that. Lots more TV work. The TV show Bull, Providence. So here's where kind of his voice work comes in. He actually is the voice of Superman across all those Justice League animated series. Oh, interesting. Okay. So he's Superman on Justice League. I only put in a couple because if you go through his filmography, it's like boom, boom, boom, boom. He's Clark Kent slash Superman for everything. Justice League Unlimited. He actually is in Saw VI. Oh, they made six of them? Well, they just came out with the 10th one. Holy shit. Yeah. So he's in that one. Probably, I'm guessing, I didn't watch this show, but my guess is that a lot of people know him from Scandal because it looks like he was in the entirety of the series. So he did that. And then a lot of just kind of one-offs for other TV work. Okay. Wrapping up our cast is... We've already mentioned him, Bradley Whitford. So he is the bad love interest. He's Mike. He's not a good guy. He's not a good guy. And the thing is, you know from the jump. He claims that he has a sick sister. And the funny thing is, okay, so why are you even dating Chris? Because you bail on her on your anniversary, right? When she finds him, I mean, of all the restaurants in Chicago, they happen to walk into the
SPEAKER_01:one that he's in. Chicago is always made to feel like a pretty small town.
SPEAKER_03:I'm kind of curious, too, that he went into the city for the date. I kind of see him as the guy who would not have gone all the way into the city. But in any case, he's cheating on her. Very much so. With some chick that they don't really do her justice. She doesn't really get a lot to do. No,
SPEAKER_01:no.
SPEAKER_03:She doesn't. But when Chris confronts him and then Brad sticks up for her, Mike is like, oh, and it's a crude thing to say, but he says something like she's locked at the knees or something. or something like that. I
SPEAKER_01:mean, Brad's took up for her, but Daryl's the one that fucking shoved the guy into a
SPEAKER_03:table. Daryl's the hero
SPEAKER_01:of that scene. Daryl's not messing around.
SPEAKER_03:No. Yeah. I love it. I love his punk. But, so it's like, okay, so Mike is indicating that Chris isn't physical with him, which, good, because she's 17 years old and he's 21. Yeah. But it's like, so then what are you getting out of the relationship? Like, she's a 17-year-old kid in his eyes. Yeah. He is so dismissive of her from the jump when she confronts him. So it's like, why are you even dating her? And Chris, what are you seeing in this creep?
SPEAKER_01:I don't have an answer for any of these questions. So that's who Bradley Whitford is. He does look great now.
SPEAKER_03:He looks great. And he just seems, by all accounts, don't know the guy, but seems like a cool guy. I see occasionally things on social media. He's very progressive. He's very... Outspoken about the things he believes in. He also has really had an uptick in his career. Like he's done really well for himself in his later career. I kind of did a count. So of his, as of right now, 137 credits, 88 of them have come after the year 2000. All right. so he's just really coming to his own but to go through his credits uh kind of similar to some of the people we've mentioned i have a lot of films earlier in his career and then he's done um kind of a mix of tv and film later on but we have revenge of the nerds 2 nerds in paradise so I do vaguely remember him from Presumed Innocent. He doesn't have a huge role. Yeah. But he's in that. Awakenings. He's in Scent of a Woman.
SPEAKER_01:Robocop 3. Oh, wow. I forgot they made a third one before they just started all over.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Yeah. My Life. He's in Philadelphia. Billy Madison. So talk about a swing there from like super serious to like comedy. The TV series. I don't know this. The Secret Lives of Men
SPEAKER_01:Hmm.
SPEAKER_03:Sounds
SPEAKER_01:familiar, but... Curious what that would be. I'm not supposed to talk about it. It's supposed to be a secret.
SPEAKER_03:Even though this came, I think it... So, technically, the show, I think, preceded 2000, but it crossed over that barrier. His huge... It's weird to say breakout, because he'd already been in the industry for a really long time, but I think where people really know him from is the West Wing. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I think so. So... He does that. He does Studio 60 and The Sunset Strip. I adore him in Cabin in the Woods.
SPEAKER_01:That is one of my favorite. I don't even I guess it's a horror movie, but I mean, it is, but it's got such a twist at the end. It's that that movie is amazing. But it is legitimate horror. It is. Yeah. No, you're right. There's like undead people killing other people. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. It's horror for sure. But it is. an amazing film he is so fucking good as like one of the guys trying to um prompt along the killing of these archetypal kids
SPEAKER_01:um if ever there was a movie that you'd want a sequel to it would be that but just by the way the movie ends there can't be
SPEAKER_03:it is the ultimate of nihilism, I guess you would say, because the world is destroyed.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, it's the end. The end of that movie is the end. Is
SPEAKER_03:the end. Sorry, spoilers. It is so funny the way he goes out, because I think throughout the movie he's kind of obsessed with this idea of a merman, and then he gets killed by a merman, and even the way that he realizes he's about to be killed by a merman, and it's so funny. He is just so good. All
SPEAKER_01:right, I'm adding that to the queue for today.
SPEAKER_03:Sure. I would watch that anytime. He's in Saving Mr. Banks. He is in the TV show Trophy Wife. So here's the other really notable, more recent role. He's in Get Out. So he's the husband. Yeah, yeah. He's fantastic in that. He's in Godzilla King of the Monsters. And then more recently, as far as TV work is concerned, he's in Transparent as well as The Handmaid's Tale.
SPEAKER_01:Okay.
SPEAKER_03:He's great. I love him. Yeah. He's a fantastic actor.
SPEAKER_01:You didn't get much to do in this movie, but he's great. No, but I'm
SPEAKER_03:so glad that he has had a great career. Film synopsis. What do we got? A babysitter must battle her way through the big city after being stranded there with the kids she's looking after. Yeah, that's it. Yeah, that's fine. I'm surprised they didn't bring up the Playboy.
SPEAKER_01:I
SPEAKER_03:mean, it's almost a little too concise, but... Like they could have, they could have like, you know, said something about the fact that she's like helping her friend out or I don't know. And that there are people after them. I mean, it is a really interesting film. I know I saw it when I was young. It had been a very long time since I had seen it. I mean, you brought up, um, I don't know if... If I can count, um, the last time that we watched it, uh, because I wasn't super paying attention, able to focus on the film. That's as much as I'll say about it. Yeah. But, um, so the last time I was really able to focus on the film was a while ago. Um, what about you? Um, no,
SPEAKER_01:I, I, I'm honestly, I don't know what the question was. I'm sorry.
SPEAKER_03:Like the first time that you had seen the film or the last time that you saw it, and, like, paid attention to it?
SPEAKER_01:Oh. I mean, I was aware of the movie, but, like, honestly, when we, like, watched it just when we were on a vacation and it was on the TV, that's probably, like, the last time I remember. Like, I don't remember some of the movies that we cover. I'm like, oh, I watch this all the time. I remember seeing it in the theater. I don't really know. Like, it just, like, absorbed into my consciousness somehow. Yeah. Okay. But I don't remember seeing it much beyond that, and then obviously last night when we watched it.
SPEAKER_03:So there's this weird subset of films that probably the reason why I have such an affinity for John Hughes films, of which this is not one, is because of the common location of Chicago. Chicago suburbs. Yeah. So I know that this film has been on my radar since I was a kid because of the Chicago connection.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:And having grown up there, I don't know if that's how other kids who, whatever era you grew up in, if you have the same affinity for certain films, like if you grew up in LA, maybe you have an affinity for Valley Girl, say, because of it's like Los Angeles, the valley, hence the title, is like almost another character. Yeah. in certain films or you could say the same thing for films set in New York or wherever but you know you're gonna probably get more films set in major cities and then Chicago just happens to fall into that so they're just these movies that I have a fondness for because of the location and I will I do think that this is one of those movies although so I am with Raising Arizona um You know, I mentioned earlier that this is kind of a bizarro version of Ferris Bueller's Day Off.
SPEAKER_01:It is.
SPEAKER_03:They present Chicago in a way where ultimately.
SPEAKER_01:Because it's not her day off. She's working. It's
SPEAKER_03:not even her day off. That's kind of funny. Another part of it. I think that the way that they initially set up going into the city is like, yeah, Chicago is this scary place. I
SPEAKER_01:don't... It would have been better set in Detroit, honestly, in that era. Because I had family that still lives in more suburb-y areas of Detroit. And when I was going to visit one time and mentioned I was going to see a Detroit Red Wings game... I was made to feel as though I was going to be gunned down. You were
SPEAKER_03:not coming back.
SPEAKER_01:And it was fine, but that experience gives me the same vibes as what they were trying to portray in this. And I don't know what Chicago was like in the 80s, but I wouldn't really be too worried about driving through Chicago now.
SPEAKER_03:No. I mean, look, there are still...
SPEAKER_01:Must be a suburb kid thing. A suburb kid thing.
SPEAKER_03:I mean, look... It's been a while since I've lived in the city. I never felt unsafe living in the city.
SPEAKER_01:While
SPEAKER_03:I was going to school, I lived on the north side. And I think that, again, what we brought up right when we started this episode, there is this perception. I mean, look, and it's not even just Chicago. There is a perception of... city living versus suburban living versus rural living and i i want to say that by the time this film ends i don't think chicago is set up as like this scary place to be they go through scary scary circumstances i think
SPEAKER_01:but yeah i think it was more a play on like These sub like sheltered suburb kids. Yes. Just not being like used to visiting the city than the city necessarily being this like hellscape.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. And I, I, I want it like, look, I don't want to get too into the weeds with this film. It's like a light comedy.
SPEAKER_01:It's supposed to be right. Adventures in babysitting.
SPEAKER_03:Right. But like, I want, I hope the takeaway is that like, you don't have to be scared of like city, uh, uh experiences
SPEAKER_01:but you should be it's good for you
SPEAKER_03:no like even okay like look so we're in los angeles yes and
SPEAKER_01:you should be afraid of no
SPEAKER_03:no no you shouldn't i think that it's just that you should be aware of your surroundings and I'm not building a very strong case, but for instance, okay, here's the thing. The one example I'll give, it seems like anybody who's coming to LA, they're like, oh, I want to go to the, you know, the walk of fame. I'm like, no, you don't.
SPEAKER_01:Don't do it.
SPEAKER_03:So not because like necessary, like, look, be aware because you don't want to get pickpocketed or like the big thing actually is.
SPEAKER_01:Do you want me to say what happened to someone on the, on the walk of fame? When people get shivved. Well, they got shipped and someone also had a bucket of hot liquid feces thrown on them. Yeah. That's the kind of stuff that happens. We didn't even make it downtown yet.
SPEAKER_03:Because, like,
SPEAKER_01:downtown LA. Yeah. Yeah,
SPEAKER_03:yeah. And then also, you just have to be aware of, like, what you're getting into. Like, for instance, there are individuals who portray themselves to be certain characters.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:On Hollywood Boulevard.
SPEAKER_01:Superman, Spider-Man. Yeah, a lot of, like,
SPEAKER_03:superheroes. Or, like, Jack Sparrow is one of
SPEAKER_01:them. Oh, yeah,
SPEAKER_03:yeah. But even you have, like, Marilyn Monroe. Or, like, it could be any iconic Hollywood character. But.
SPEAKER_01:Don't interact with them.
SPEAKER_03:You have to. They will kill you for that money. They'll
SPEAKER_01:kill you.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. you just have to be aware of things. But, like, for instance, like, the way that they set up Chicago, when Chris, you know, at some point, Chris and the kids, they get away, it immediately precedes Daryl talking to that other girl. But there's, like, trash cans that are on fire. Yeah, you don't see that in... Yeah. I don't ever remember. And, like, look, I... Again, I grew up in the suburbs, but I went into the city a lot. Mm-hmm.
UNKNOWN:Um...
SPEAKER_03:That's one thing I'll say for the school I went to. I know that it's funny to frame it this way, but we went on a ton of field trips, always into the city.
SPEAKER_01:So are you telling me that they did not set up these field trips for you to see the on-fire trash cans?
SPEAKER_03:But between school and going to the city, my dad took us into the city a ton. Yeah. We were always going to sporting events.
SPEAKER_01:Your dad was like, I'm avoiding Trash Can Alley.
SPEAKER_03:sure but like i feel like i did grow up even though i grew up in the suburbs i was in the city a lot as a child and then i lived there when i went to college so like i feel like i have a pretty good sense and yeah there are some areas where it's like just be smart about where you're going but the city as a whole is not some scary place it's actually an amazing place to be
SPEAKER_01:yeah so i It wouldn't, it would not have been a very fun movie if it, if it was just like, so they went downtown and everything was fine. And
SPEAKER_03:then everybody died. But like, no,
SPEAKER_01:no, I was saying they just, they go downtown tire. They pick up their friend. It's like a 20, 20 minutes short.
SPEAKER_03:I know. I know. I'm sorry that I skipped over what you were saying. Yes. That would have also been a very boring movie,
SPEAKER_01:but if they all went downtown and died, I'd watch that too.
SPEAKER_03:But like, for instance, when they're on the L and there's like the rival gangs.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Like that kind of stuff.
SPEAKER_01:That I believe now.
SPEAKER_03:Well.
SPEAKER_01:I can see that happening now. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:I mean, it's more often than not somebody who's probably mentally unwell. You're probably not going to get in the middle of a gang fight. Anna,
SPEAKER_01:just give me one moment here to bring up a story about us. Taking the metro, taking the light rail in California to go see a concert near USC. When we got back to the parking structure, an actual street takeover was happening. We were afraid of a gang war erupting.
SPEAKER_03:You're not wrong. You're not wrong. But that wasn't actually while we were on the train.
SPEAKER_01:Fair enough. That's
SPEAKER_03:when we got off. And we just happened to get off somewhere where they were doing that. But it had nothing to do with... With public
SPEAKER_01:transportation. Had a little bit to do with it,
SPEAKER_03:but yeah. But you are correct in that I was actually pretty legitimately worried about it going too far and us being caught in the middle of it.
SPEAKER_01:I
SPEAKER_03:was actually afraid.
SPEAKER_01:We kind of were.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:We kind of were. Because we
SPEAKER_03:literally couldn't
SPEAKER_01:leave. I've never taken a drive home with so many detours to try to not get hit by all of the fleeing people. Like cars. But
SPEAKER_03:you know what? To me, it says a lot more about fucking LAPD than it does about anything else because they took their sweet ass time. They didn't do shit. They didn't do anything.
SPEAKER_01:Moving on.
SPEAKER_03:So really going off the rails in this episode. But I will say, you know what? One thing that I thought to kind of pivot back to getting back to this movie. One thing that you mentioned when we were watching it, which I think is so spot on. Oh, what did I say?
UNKNOWN:So...
SPEAKER_03:There's this whole subplot of Brad having this huge crush on Chris. And throughout the entire movie, his puppy dog eyes with her, and he wants to be considered as a possible next suitor for her.
SPEAKER_01:That's exactly how he says it, too. He's like, could I possibly be your next suitor? I
SPEAKER_03:know, I said that in a really bizarre way. But he really has a huge crush on her. and one thing that you said is like oh when you are in in that age range being 15 is a world away from being 17 and you are totally right
SPEAKER_01:yeah the difference between 15 and 17 is huge the difference between 17 and 21 should be big too yes
SPEAKER_03:yes and i mean i remember when i was back in high school it was such a big deal and i had actually a couple friends that um were in this very scenario i'm not gonna say that they like got shit for it but when we were seniors i had Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.
SPEAKER_01:Okay. that you know the the older person in this relationship is going to be going on to college while the next other person has like two years left in high school that's
SPEAKER_03:yeah and there there is a really interesting like i'm like going back to those days there's a really interesting you tell me if this was the same for you when i was a freshman i knew who all the seniors were
SPEAKER_01:oh yeah no no but when
SPEAKER_03:you're a senior you have no clue who the freshmen are
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Okay. So my experience in high school was, I would say it was pretty similar during freshman, sophomore, junior, senior year. I didn't know who fucking anyone was.
SPEAKER_03:Well, okay. So this is also a difference between like the schools we went to because you went to a huge public school.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. A big public high. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:So how many kids total were in your high school at any given time
SPEAKER_01:between all the grades? I don't know, a thousand something. I don't know. Yeah, that's huge. Probably. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Which just means like it would be impossible to know everybody. Just period.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:I went to a private school, a much smaller group of kids. So like between all the grades, maybe 300 kids.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. No, I would say my school was significantly.
SPEAKER_03:Like my graduating class was about 80 kids. So
SPEAKER_01:I mean, it was in Glendale. So even with those thousand students, my graduating class may have been about 80 kids. Oh, I'll just say
SPEAKER_03:it would make much more sense where I went to school and also as a generational school. So a lot of the same families were putting kids through. But it was just my my point is just that the perception is. Like when you're younger, you know who the older kids were.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:But when you're a little bit older, even just a three-year gap, the freshmen look like babies.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. They look like they're in grade school still.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. You think as a senior, you're like, oh, no, no, no, no. I'm way more mature and older. The freshmen are just like little kids. So it makes total sense that Chris, even with just a two-year difference between her and Brad, she does not consider him at all... On her level. I don't think she's trying to be mean about it. She just inherently doesn't think of him as like
SPEAKER_01:her peer. He is not eligible to pursue her as a
SPEAKER_03:suitor. As a suitor! But it was nice at the end where they come to this kind of accord because he's like, look, I get it.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, he gets major friend-zoned at the end. I'll always consider you a friend.
SPEAKER_03:Well... And
SPEAKER_01:then he slowly pulls down the shade that she makes out with that college guy.
SPEAKER_03:I mean, but I think that they have like an understanding. Sure. Like he says to her, I get it if you ignore me. Yeah. And she's like, I'm not going to ignore a friend. I don't think she was trying to... It wasn't like a pity thing. No. I think... In her eyes, like, it did change. Over the course of the evening, her view of him did change.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:And he went from being just, like, this, like, kid. I felt so bad for him, wherever he keeps saying, like, don't eat chocolate, which I think that's been disproven, that chocolate will give you pimples.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Puberty is what does that primarily. Yeah, exactly. Hormones.
SPEAKER_03:And, like, not having a good hygiene routine. Routine. It's what we'll do that to. So so I felt so bad that he kept getting called out for that. But, you know, she totally thinks of him as being a kid.
SPEAKER_01:He's kind of invisible. Yes. And then and then at least she kind of like brings him in. He's at least on like a more like the same level, but still like that's that's not going to happen. But at least I will acknowledge you.
SPEAKER_03:Exactly. And then like to your point at the end, when he just like sadly, like he obviously, you can't just turn off feelings. Yeah. But he accepts that this is going to be the kind of relationship that they have. And I think he's like happy for her. Like maybe on some level.
SPEAKER_01:I don't know.
SPEAKER_03:But it is real. I mean, I am laughing because like when you said, oh, whirlwind relationship. Uh, romance. You're not kidding. Like they, and even when they were at the party and they're like slow dancing, I'm like, you just met this guy
SPEAKER_01:maybe two
SPEAKER_03:minutes ago.
SPEAKER_01:Maybe he's happy that she's with someone that treats her well for the, for the couple of hours that they've known each other. Yes, he sure has. I
SPEAKER_03:did think it was super funny that, like, the way... You know, I was feeling very bittersweet. Like, I knew what the ending of the film was. But when Dan drops them off at Dawson's shop and he's just like, bye. Like, he obviously does have feelings for her. It's very clear that they have something there. Yeah. But... It is– that also, I think, is, like, really realistic where, like, you kind of have some kind of interaction with somebody. And, yes, you are attracted to them. But it's, like, it seems, like, probably a little too premature to try to, like– it'd maybe be weird to ask for a phone number. And it's so different than today. So, like, I thought about that a million times over throughout the course of this movie. Like, where– This is one of those 80s movies that could not be made today. Yeah,
SPEAKER_01:hit me up on your Insta.
SPEAKER_03:That's probably why they had to have a totally different story for whatever the newer 2016 Adventures in Babysitting
SPEAKER_01:is. That's a great point. We've talked about other movies, things from the 80s, where just technology would make that movie story nonsensical.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:So that probably is like a big part of why they did make up something original.
SPEAKER_03:I'm not trying to set this up as a comparison piece with Ferris. Ferris, I think, could still happen today. You could still ditch school.
SPEAKER_01:Better turn off all your location tracking stuff.
SPEAKER_03:Sure, sure. And he would probably be identified by somebody if he was part of that parade.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:But everything else they could kind of do. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:They could go to a Cubs game. They could drop in on some high end restaurant. They could do a lot of the things that they do. They could go to the.
SPEAKER_01:They know who Abe Froman is. They'd be able to figure out who Abe Froman is pretty quick.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. But like a lot of the beats of that movie would be identical.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:But this movie, like when she when they get the flat tire and she's like, oh, I forgot my purse.
SPEAKER_01:Apple Pay.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. You'd have your phone on you. You'd have like you'd have something on you or one of the kids would.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
UNKNOWN:Even the kids would have their phones on them.
SPEAKER_03:You know, so all the other events that transpire. I'll
SPEAKER_01:go one further. They would just excuse me. They would just go to their mobile and set up a ride for Brenda.
SPEAKER_03:Yes.
SPEAKER_01:And get her back that
SPEAKER_03:way. Great point.
SPEAKER_01:They'd be like,
SPEAKER_03:I'll send you an Uber. Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:That's it. Yep. Movie's over. That's
SPEAKER_03:it. An excellent point. Or even just, like, the choice that Brenda makes to, like, run away. She wouldn't be going to the bus station. No. Probably. Like, there would just... It would be a totally different movie today. And... You know, and like the funniest line that I think somebody from a much younger generation would be like, what? Is when Brenda's trying to buy the hot dog.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:And she's, they're taught, they're having, she's having the whole conversation about signing over a check. Yeah. I barely understood that because that's even out of like, like actually this just happened yesterday when I was like, you know, doing whatever. And I mentioned to you, oh, I just realized that my checkbook still has our old address on it.
UNKNOWN:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:And I'm like, but I never use a check. The only time I ever used a check was at our old place
SPEAKER_01:for paying rent. For the
SPEAKER_03:landlord, yeah. Yeah. And I was like, is it even worth it to try to update our checks with our new address?
SPEAKER_01:I honestly don't think it is.
SPEAKER_03:And if we happen to go to the grocery store and it's usually someone of an older generation who still is paying by check...
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, we just take another line.
SPEAKER_03:Yes. Like, it is really... Like, that to me was such an interesting moment in the film because that is so indicative of that moment in time, which does not happen anymore. There's no writing over checks to people.
SPEAKER_01:No, that is... Yeah, yeah. That was... Not even writing a check for you myself. I'm signing this one over to you. Too many steps. No, I'm not giving you a hot dog for this.
SPEAKER_03:The last time we had a deal with that, and I even hesitate to put it that way because I don't want to make it sound like it was a negative, but the generosity of our wedding guests and them giving us checks.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. Thank you, everyone.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Some people just made it out to you or to me.
UNKNOWN:Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_03:Or even just the lingo of it. You have to say your name and my name. You can't say your name or my name. It was just a whole thing where there were a couple instances where we had to go to the bank together.
SPEAKER_01:There's a process involved with this that's simply not going to work for a hot dog vendor.
SPEAKER_03:Thank you for bringing it back to the movie.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, no
SPEAKER_03:problem. This is your baking differences between the 1980s and 2020s. But yeah, so there are these little moments in the film where it's like, oh, that is so indicative of what life was like then versus today. And that's why, you know, sometimes, like, I think it's been a minute, though, since we've had a movie like this, where, like, this only could have been made this way in the 80s.
SPEAKER_01:The one that I always think of is, like, we haven't covered it, Planes, Trains, and Automobiles. Yes. Is the one where that movie just doesn't exist. I actually have that on the
SPEAKER_03:docket for it because, like, it's crazy to me that we're in season five and we still haven't covered that movie. Mm-hmm. It's so much... It has to be done around Thanksgiving. And we've just never gotten to it. But yes, that is another film that is so indicative of that era. It's actually wild to me sometimes
SPEAKER_01:when I... There are a lot of them. If I think about it, Home Alone, there's a lot of them.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, and that's 90. And that was Chris Columbus. But in any case, I just think that this film, regardless of whether or not this was a film that is nostalgic for you because of where it's set or when you first saw it... It is a really interesting look at what life was. Yes, it's such heightened reality. But if you look at, like, even what causes the movie to be, you're absolutely right. It would be a non-starter because you would just send Brenda a ride share if you needed to get her home. Yeah. So it's, from that perspective, kind of fascinating. So call to action.
SPEAKER_02:Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_03:I mean... We just got done going through a whole to-do about, like, how this movie can be made today. I think there's, like, two approaches you could take here. Pretend there's not a 2016 version. Yeah. Which isn't really a version. They just stole the name.
SPEAKER_01:That's what I'm going to do.
SPEAKER_03:Okay. Yeah. So, like, how would you even attempt to make this movie today if you wanted to try to follow the same storyline?
SPEAKER_01:Oh, geez.
SPEAKER_03:Or... I think the other thing that's, like, really fascinating about this movie... We're giving people homework....is, yes, is what we were talking about in terms of ages. And just,
SPEAKER_02:like... Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Like, how did you feel about the kids in, like, a grade or two younger than you? Like, does that make sense, what we were saying? About just how it seems, like, oceans apart.
SPEAKER_01:Tell us about the biggest age gap in your dating history.
SPEAKER_03:Were you ever dating a 20-something when you were a teenager? So if you want to get in touch with us, we would love to hear from you. You can reach out through Facebook, Twitter, or Instagram. It's the same handle for all three. It is at 80s Montage Pod, and 80s is 8-0-S. Okay, Derek.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. What's coming up?
SPEAKER_03:Sneak peek. You tell me. You're going to tell me the sneak
SPEAKER_01:peek. Well, we just spent a fair amount of time talking about how different things were in the past. What if... What if... The next movie... was more a question of how different things might be in the future.
SPEAKER_03:How much in the future, though, are they, now that we're in 2024? I
SPEAKER_01:don't actually know. I
SPEAKER_03:think it's like 2029 or something, right?
SPEAKER_01:We're getting there, and we're not really there. It's
SPEAKER_03:not
SPEAKER_01:even... Yeah, but we are, of course, talking about Blade Runner. Of course we are. Yeah. What other movie are we talking about that takes place in the future? We're kind of
SPEAKER_03:getting... getting into a little bit of a thing with future past. Like, we did Peggy Sue Got Married.
SPEAKER_01:There's a lot of time shenanigans.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. And even just, like, between the similarities there are, like, in a weird way. You know, when we talked about Mr. Mom and just, like, something so quintessential 80s in terms of, like, what that... approach was anyway we're kind of getting into these like weird kind of pathways with certain films um but it's really interesting to go back to something that's about like futuristic anyway it certainly is that yes and also which which version of this movie are we gonna watch
SPEAKER_01:oh my god that's a good question i don't know I don't know. We'll see
SPEAKER_03:what's available
SPEAKER_01:to us, I guess. I need to do a little research on... Because there are material differences, I think, in the... I think there's, what, three? Three or four? And
SPEAKER_03:also, it'll be really fun to see another Rutger Hauer movie.
SPEAKER_01:That's the only reason I'm doing this. Rutger Hauer?
SPEAKER_03:Mm-hmm. Okay.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Not like Harrison Ford or Ridley Scott or...
SPEAKER_01:I mean, one of them is also in this movie.
SPEAKER_03:The only person who I think is going to be really new is Sean Young, right? Because even Daryl Hannah we've covered before. So it'll be a really interesting film to go over, talk about how it actually did not do very well.
SPEAKER_01:Did not get a sequel decades later that also did not do very
SPEAKER_03:well. Multiple decades later. But yes, so Blade Runner, I'm very excited. We've mentioned this film. This is very much like Terminator in terms of both, again, like, futuristic elements and also a film that we've talked about but just never really got around to, surprisingly. So
SPEAKER_01:now we're
SPEAKER_03:going to finally
SPEAKER_01:do it. We've only been doing this for three years, finally. Three
SPEAKER_03:years? Four years. And this is season five. What the? We've done four full years and we're still in the early stages of... Our fifth
SPEAKER_01:year. All right. Next episode, number 500 will be Blade Runner.
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