'80s Movie Montage
Breaking down our favorite decade of flicks. Hosted by Anna Keizer and Derek Dehanke.
'80s Movie Montage
The Goonies
In this episode, Anna and Derek discuss the masterpiece that is Richard Donner's The Goonies (1985).
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Anna Keizer and Derek Dehanke are the co-hosts of ‘80s Movie Montage. The idea for the podcast came when they realized just how much they talk – a lot – when watching films from their favorite cinematic era. Their wedding theme was “a light nod to the ‘80s,” so there’s that, too. Both hail from the Midwest but have called Los Angeles home for several years now. Anna is a writer who received her B.A. in Film/Video from Columbia College Chicago and M.A. in Film Studies from Chapman University. Her dark comedy short She Had It Coming was an Official Selection of 25 film festivals with several awards won for it among them. Derek is an attorney who also likes movies. It is a point of pride that most of their podcast episodes are longer than the movies they cover.
Hi everyone, welcome to 80s movie montage. I'm Anna.
SPEAKER_02:And I'm Derek.
SPEAKER_06:And thank you so much for joining us for our third episode. Uh today we are going to be covering one of my top three favorite movies. Of all time. Of all time.
SPEAKER_02:I mean, I'm not surprised because you have been more excited about talking about this movie than I think any other movie that we've well, all two of them. Right. Or any other movie on the list.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, I actually was kind of thinking, like, should we save this one? Because I do adore this movie so much, but I'm I'm too excited, and we've already done the work and we've done the screening, so we're just gonna do it.
SPEAKER_02:And everyone knows what the movie is because you've clicked on the link. You know that it is The Goonies! What year was The Goonies? 1985? Okay.
SPEAKER_06:Um, yeah, so actually this one comes in again, middle of the decade, just like my first pick, Breakfast Club. Oh, and I should probably say that um, you know, Derek and I are trading off each episode with getting to pick the movie that we're going to screen and talk about. So Goonies is my pick.
SPEAKER_02:There's some overlap.
SPEAKER_06:There's over yes, there's overlap. I'm not saying that Derek doesn't also love this movie. I just had um the presence of mind to take it first. I got dibs.
SPEAKER_02:You put your list together long before I did. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_06:Um, so yeah, so I took took some of my favorites. Um, and thank you. Thank you for being so gracious and letting me take this movie.
SPEAKER_02:Sure.
SPEAKER_06:Um, so yeah, this is truly one of my all-time favorite movies. Um, and I guess I'll just go into like then why this movie was picked. I mean, this is probably the only film I can think of from my childhood that I I actually remember seeing in the theater.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I think I was gonna say the same. I do have a memory at least of seeing this in the theater, which I don't have for either of The Breakfast Club or Bloodsport.
SPEAKER_06:Yes. Um I actually that's curious. So you don't actually remember seeing Bloodsport in the theater? You didn't see it in the theater.
SPEAKER_02:No, I I'm sure the first time I saw that was on TBS or TNT. Oh, okay. Yeah.
SPEAKER_06:That's actually so strange because I don't think we ever brought that up in the last episode.
SPEAKER_02:I I can't remember. I think we might it may have come up, but I don't know. We've we did a lot of uh like prep before actually recording, and I think I I mentioned it there, but I don't know if I mentioned it um on the on the episode.
SPEAKER_06:But well, in any case, so Goonies for sure was a movie that I saw not even just once in the theater. I remember begging my dad to take me to this movie multiple times. Um so as far as like first memories of this film go, I loved it from the the second I saw it. It just we'll get into why, but it definitely instantly clicked with me. And that is the reason why I wanted to do this one so badly. How about you?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I mean, I remember seeing it in the theater, and I remember the first time I saw Data and all his gadgets, thinking this is probably the coolest kid I've ever seen in a movie is amazing.
SPEAKER_06:That's so interesting. Okay, we can get into that later too about like which of the characters you feel most connected to.
SPEAKER_02:He literally prevented his own death with those Chompy T things. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_06:He snipped himself a couple times, I think. Um so hence the reason why we picked this film. And I I guess if there's some of you out there who haven't ever seen the Goonies, first of all, please just I'm gonna go as far as saying, like, pause this podcast and go find the movie and watch it. Because no, but truly, like if you were if you were interested in in listening to this podcast, I think you would get a lot more out of it having seen the film. I it just a lot of it's not gonna like be cool or sound fun or whatever if you haven't seen the film because you won't get it.
SPEAKER_01:True.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, so so you know, forget us for another for an hour and a half, go watch the movie and come back. Um, but again, every time I, you know, read off one of these film synopsis, I'm just pulling it from my MDB. Uh the way that they encapsulate this film is they say a group of young misfits called the Goonies discover an ancient map and set out on a quest to find a legendary pirate's long-lost treasure.
SPEAKER_02:That's accurate. Um, no reason why they're called the Goonies. I never got that. It is kind of a fun name.
SPEAKER_06:Because they live at the goondocks. Oh my god.
SPEAKER_02:Okay.
SPEAKER_06:There you go.
SPEAKER_02:Okay.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah. And I will say this though, you know, they call them misfits. Maybe I think a misfit in a different kind of way. I don't really think of them as misfits. It's not like they're, I don't know, I guess I think of misfits as like they're on the wrong side of the law.
SPEAKER_02:I mean, it reminded me a little bit of the cast of Stephen King's It.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:A little bit like there's the asthmatic. Definitely. The mouth character who's We're gonna talk about that too. Yeah, so I I mean I see them, they're definitely portrayed as misfit kids as I would think of misfit kids in an itties movie.
SPEAKER_04:Fair.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Like Bran was probably the one who wouldn't be a misfit because he was real big into exercise. And that's really all it takes to not be like a nerd in an ities movie. If you work out a lot, you're probably pretty cool. He was in the 80s.
SPEAKER_06:Pretty, pretty handsome fellow.
SPEAKER_02:Well, he's he's Thanos.
SPEAKER_06:He's yeah, I wouldn't call Thanos attractive.
SPEAKER_02:He works out though.
SPEAKER_06:Oh, he was yeah, he was built for sure. He's ripped, yeah. Um, so before we kind of dive into everything, as we do with each of these episodes, we do a screening prior to the recording. And so I wanna uh throw it over to you, Derek. You had seen this film as a child. You have seen it. Actually, okay, full disclaimer, folks. If you didn't already know this, Derek and I are married.
SPEAKER_01:Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_06:And it's true. And uh I don't know, I'm not gonna get into the specifics of like bedtime activities, but one of the things that we do is we throw on a movie before we go to bed just to like help us fall asleep. Yeah, so we'll put the Goonies on and Yeah, Goonies is on our rotation because it's one of those films that both of us have seen so often that it's not distracting to actually hear it playing in the background. It's like comforting. So we both just to let you know, have have seen this movie many, many a time.
SPEAKER_02:And look, watching a movie or putting a movie on when you go to bed, it's not it's not the best for the sleep, but hey, this is not a sleep hygiene podcast.
SPEAKER_06:So we'll Yeah, we're gonna probably get some comments about like you really shouldn't do that.
SPEAKER_02:So for me, it's the probably the first time that I've seen this movie beyond like the first 10 minutes after which I conk out. Sure. And actually like watching it and paying attention to it was was actually a lot of fun. And I I don't think I've seen it multiple times in the theater, but I remember seeing it and loving it as a kid. Um, and it's a movie that I'll watch whenever it's on. So I really had a great time watching it and like kind of similar to all these movies that we're doing this for. Like these are movies that we're all so familiar with, but after like decades, you kind of like see them in bits and pieces now. So taking the time to watch it from start to finish and actually paying attention is kind of fun.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, I had so much fun watching this with you the other night, and it also for myself was the first time in a really long time that I had just watched it from beginning to end and was just paying attention to the film. I didn't think before we started watching it that I actually would have, you know, the LOL moments, and I had many. You had several. Yeah, I it still really, really holds up. It's so funny, and probably one of the reasons why it's one of my top three films, it's it just makes me happy. It just puts a smile on my face. I feel like I'm just smiling the whole way through.
SPEAKER_02:It's it's super silly.
SPEAKER_06:Like I don't think I realize just how ridiculous this movie is, but it's we can have a whole separate podcast about all the things that just are not plausible about this movie, but I just don't care.
SPEAKER_02:I don't care after watching, I don't know, maybe the first 30 minutes or so, I was convinced that if they had just let Chunk go on his own, he would have found the complete treasure and the movie would have been over in like 40 minutes. Because he found he found the map, I think. He helped break it open, then he found the the Chester Copper Pot thing, then he found like this guy would have just stumbled into the entire treasure if they had just given him the chance.
SPEAKER_06:I mean, he does kind of do that the whole way through anyway, but um so yeah, it was a really enjoyable rewatch. Um, and we're gonna dive into the film for sure, but one thing that I really wanted to talk about during this podcast I know that The Goonies is a beloved film. We're certainly not the only two people who love this film. I know lots of people who love this film, but I don't think people necessarily recognize like this might sound very kind of pretentious, but like the pedigree of the film.
SPEAKER_01:Okay.
SPEAKER_06:And here's what I mean by that, because one thing that I really enjoy doing, I've mentioned this before, is I really love looking at like all the people who are involved behind the scenes. We're gonna for sure get in we're we're gonna go through everybody who's in it and all that jazz. We already talked about a couple people. But um, so first of all, being writer, I always see who the writer is on this. And we have a story by credit from Steven Spielberg himself.
SPEAKER_02:So Yeah, yeah, I knew that he was involved in this for other reasons.
SPEAKER_06:Oh, well do tell.
SPEAKER_02:Well, he suddenly inexplicably popped up in the music video, which we'll definitely get into later.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, that's actually fascinating now that you say that, because you would think, well, he produced it too, so he he's all over this film. And actually, it's even been noted that um he has probably directed a couple of the scenes in the film.
SPEAKER_01:Okay.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah. Uh, but it was written by Chris Columbus. This is uh, I would think a very familiar name to a lot of people. He started out mostly as a writer in Hollywood. He also wrote Gremlins, which is probably a film at some point that we'll maybe cover.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, there's an interesting crossover between Goonies and Gremlins that I definitely had not picked up before.
SPEAKER_06:Oh, okay. Well, we could just talk about it right now. I mean, there's there's uh it's an Easter egg.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, Chunk is talking to the uh police, I think.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah. And he's trying to tell them about the fratellies.
SPEAKER_02:Chunk maybe tells a lot of tall tales.
SPEAKER_06:Yes, exactly.
SPEAKER_02:And he's telling them about the fratellies, and I think one of the stories the the cop says, oh, is this like those little creatures that multiply if they get water on them?
SPEAKER_06:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Like, what?
SPEAKER_06:Wait, what? Exactly. It it's awesome. I love those little things. Those are always like kind of some of my favorite. And when we get into fun facts, there's kind of a couple other really fun little crossovers with other films. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. There might be a crossover somehow, and this is the strangest crossover with the movie that we just last covered. Yes. Uh in uh Blood Sport, which makes no sense, but it will.
SPEAKER_06:It it will. And I'm like so stoked that we realized this while watching the film.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, you you caught it.
SPEAKER_06:I caught it. Um, but it was one of those things where I love when you've seen a movie literally a million times and then you still find something new about it. So that was really cool. So, Chris Columbus, writer of both The Goonies and Gremlins, but then actually he went on to become like a huge director. And if you're not familiar with the name, you probably are very familiar with some of the films that he did: Adventures in Babysitting, Home Alone, Mrs. Doubtfire, and he did the first couple Harry Potter movies.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, wow.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, so he's a huge, huge guy in the industry. So that's one person who's been involved with this film. Uh, it was directed by none other than Richard Donner. I have uh, I guess you would call it like a little bit of a humble brain. It's a humble brag to me. Maybe other people actually wouldn't care at all. But I'm super like I still to this day, because it's been a while, but I actually once upon a time interned at the Donner's company.
SPEAKER_02:That is pretty cool.
SPEAKER_06:And I'll have a little story about that later with our fun facts. But yeah, that was a super cool experience for me. And Richard Donner, another huge director in the industry. If you aren't familiar with the name, then just like with Chris Columbus, I'm sure you would be familiar with some of his films. He started off in TV. He did a ton of TV directing and then kind of segued into film. But some of his films, The Omen, Superman.
SPEAKER_02:Superman 2, kind of?
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, he got done a little dirty on Superman 2, but I call him the rightful director of Superman. He he basically directed most of it.
SPEAKER_02:Because there's the whole the Donner cut. You you can get a special edition of Superman 2 that's just called the Donner Cut. And so there are a few like pretty important differences in it, I suppose.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, Superman 2 is an 80s movie, so maybe at some point we'll cover that one, and then we can kind of go more into depth about the kind of the fallout between him and the producers on the on the film. But uh, but for for all intents and purposes, Superman 2. He also directed Lady Hawk.
SPEAKER_02:That movie's so good. That movie is so ridiculous.
SPEAKER_06:I love that one.
SPEAKER_02:It's yeah, anyways.
SPEAKER_05:The Lethal Weapon movies.
SPEAKER_02:Okay, well, those are movies. Those are movies in the same way that Bloodsport was a movie. I mean, they they they're like fast and furious of that of that generation, I guess.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, yeah, that's pretty accurate.
SPEAKER_02:It's all about family.
SPEAKER_06:I I'm gonna I'm gonna give a slight edge to Lethal Weapon over Blood Sport.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, that's fair.
SPEAKER_06:Okay. And Scrooged.
SPEAKER_02:Really?
SPEAKER_06:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:I didn't know that. Yeah. Okay.
SPEAKER_06:So big big time guy and uh super nice guy. I when I was interning, he was actually on set, so I never got to, in real life, cross paths with him, but talked to him on the phone a couple times, and just like the most gracious, nicest man, I w was a nobody to him, and he actually had like just a really nice conversation with me, seemed interested in what I wanted to do, so so very, very kind man.
SPEAKER_01:Nice.
SPEAKER_06:Uh so let's move it, let's move on. Now, now I'm getting a little bit into nitty-gritty because I I haven't actually, I don't think, in the last two podcasts have brought up editors.
SPEAKER_02:I don't think so.
SPEAKER_06:But this one is just as impressive as Chris Columbus and Richard Donner. So The Goonies was edited by Michael Kahn. He is 84 years old currently, still editing.
SPEAKER_01:Okay.
SPEAKER_06:Now, I'm gonna name up some of the other films that he has uh worked on since The Goonies, and you'll probably very quickly get to you'll you'll see a connection here with someone we already talked about. So, among his other films, Close Encounters of the Third Kind.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, if that if that had a when was that movie made?
SPEAKER_06:That was 70s. 70s, okay. Well 78.
SPEAKER_02:When we make 70s movie montage, that's gonna be first on my list.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, you you adore that movie. And I do too. It's a that's another one of our on rotation going to bed movies. He did all of the indie movies.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, Indiana Jones and the And the Yeah.
SPEAKER_06:Well, the first one is just Raiders of the Lost Ark. I think once the popularity of that film really took took rise, then they called it Indiana Jones in Raiders of the Lost Ark, but it's just Raiders. Poltergeist.
SPEAKER_02:Okay, which one? First one? The real one?
SPEAKER_06:The real one.
SPEAKER_02:Got it.
SPEAKER_06:I don't acknowledge this reboot nonsense.
SPEAKER_02:It's uh it's I don't know. Sometimes it's more successful than other times. I would say that that reboot was less successful.
SPEAKER_06:It's not not on my top 1,000 films to see. The color purple.
SPEAKER_01:Okay.
SPEAKER_06:Jurassic Park.
SPEAKER_02:Okay.
SPEAKER_06:Schindler's List.
SPEAKER_02:So the saving private Ryan. The thread is then Lincoln. All movies that have the color green in them. Well or Steven Spielberg.
SPEAKER_06:Or Steven Spielberg.
SPEAKER_02:I was thinking like the dinosaurs and the all the army uniforms. Yeah.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah. I mean, this guy this this is what I'm saying. Like this film, it's not just like a lovable film, a fun film. It's a film that has like major players that were part of it.
SPEAKER_02:And if you've ingratiated yourself to Steven Spielberg to the extent that you're working on a lot of his films, you're probably doing something right.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, exactly. So I just obviously we're we're literally just about to dive into all the amazing actors that are also part of this film, but I always want to give a little bit of love to the people who may not necessarily get recognized on these types of podcasts. And I just I I personally just think it's like super cool to know that all these people were involved.
SPEAKER_02:So is that all of the people that are that we've been for the time being. For the time being, behind the camera.
SPEAKER_06:We're gonna bring we're gonna bring up some of those little connections later on. Yeah. When we get into our fun facts. All right. Uh, but so huge, huge ensemble cast for the Goonies. And virtually all these people have gone on to have really highly successful film careers since. And some some of them like astronomical type careers. So, first of all, we have Sean Aston. Goonies was his first film. Uh, and he he comes from actu actually like a Hollywood pedigree, so he's the son of Patty Duke.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_06:And um, and he gets his last name from his uh I technically I don't think John Aston was his biological father, I think it was his stepfather, but um, but he adopted him, so took on the Aston name.
SPEAKER_01:Okay.
SPEAKER_06:So he went on to do films like Encino Man.
SPEAKER_01:Okay.
SPEAKER_06:Well, don't worry, it's it's uh, we're we're we're building here. We'll do we're building. Okay. So Rudy, many people love that. He was the the he was he was he was Rudy.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, he was Rudy Notre Dame football.
SPEAKER_06:So here we go. If if you thought Encino Man wasn't impressive enough, Lord of the Rings, he was hand-wise.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, that I I think I I identify him with Rudy and Lord of the Rings movies, and I I honestly forgot about Inceno Man. That's a that's why I started cracking. That's amazing.
SPEAKER_04:It's a fun film.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Uh I think that's an 80s film. You might you might come across that one later.
SPEAKER_02:I don't is it eighties or nineties? I think it might be nineties. Oh. Um Polly Shore. Anyway, we'll have to do some research on this one.
SPEAKER_06:We'll come back to you folks. 51st Eats.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_06:He was he is actually a really great character actor in that one. And then he's actually come back to television. He did a couple t like when he was a wee little boy did some television. Um, came back as Bob in Stranger Things.
SPEAKER_02:That's right.
SPEAKER_06:So kind of actually has this like little bit of like a cult following because of just his presence in the industry after all these decades, and so people really loved him in this character.
SPEAKER_02:He's he's pretty good in everything that he's he's in.
SPEAKER_06:He's great, he's fantastic. Uh so his older brother in the movie, Brand, uh, who is in real life, Josh Brolin, you brought him up earlier. Goonies was also his first film.
SPEAKER_01:Okay.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah. And he has an interesting career tra trajectory because I'm not gonna say that he like kind of went away. I mean, his IMDB shows that he's been working ever since, but I would say, especially in the last 10 years, he's had a real resurgence.
SPEAKER_02:He's been in everything in the last between, you know, the the Thanos roles and also um Deadpool 2.
SPEAKER_06:Deadpool 2, he's cable, true grit. I think it started with True Grit. True Grit, I think, kind of kicked off this like momentum for him again.
SPEAKER_02:He was in No Country for Old Men, also.
SPEAKER_06:Oh, you're right.
SPEAKER_02:And I think that might have been just before.
SPEAKER_06:That actually, yeah, you're right. I stand corrected.
SPEAKER_02:Um and then don't forget the was Jonah Hex a Marvel or a superhero? I feel like it might have been one of those comic properties.
SPEAKER_03:The wrong person.
SPEAKER_02:Well, he was he was in that movie as well, Jonah Hex. I don't know anything about it other than it was like a Western comic movie, I think. So please don't come after me.
SPEAKER_06:So he's in this movie too. He is fantastic as Mikey. Mikey, so it's the Walsh family.
SPEAKER_01:Okay.
SPEAKER_06:Sean Aston's Mikey, Josh Brolin is brand, his older brother. So moving on to the other friends of Mikey in this film, we have Jeff Cohen, otherwise known as Chunk. So he's the one guy, and which I mean, what he does in this film is amazing. I mean, he is just you're captivated by him every single time he's on screen. He's high energy. He's hilarious, he's high energy, he's all the things. He actually went on to become an entertainment lawyer. So he's kind of the one person in this huge group of actors that we're about to go through who decided, you know what, I'm going in a different direction.
SPEAKER_02:So this is the only thing that he has been in.
SPEAKER_06:Um, I I don't think it's like his only credit, but he just decided as he got older that he was gonna do something different. So he's still in the industry, he's an entertainment lawyer, but uh not in front of the camera anymore.
SPEAKER_01:All right.
SPEAKER_06:Then we have Corey Feldman. Now Corey Feldman.
SPEAKER_02:I've heard of this guy before.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, I mean he I I don't want to throw around this word too loosely, but he actually was a pretty prolific child actor.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_06:He did a ton of stuff, he already was acting for eight years before the Goonies came along.
SPEAKER_02:He was in uh Stand By Me. Yep. I don't know if that was that his first film.
SPEAKER_06:I mean, he had been doing like television and all kinds of he he did a lot before this. So he probably among the child actors in this film was the most veteran at that at that point, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:I could see that.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah. So yes, you mentioned Stand By Me, The Lost Boys.
SPEAKER_02:Which, yeah, that was a little bit later. He was a little bit later, yeah.
SPEAKER_06:That was 87, I believe. Licensed to drive, Dream a Little Dream. Uh, and this is also, you know, one of the two Coreys. So he did a lot with Corey Haym, who has passed on, but uh he plays mouth in this film, and I am gonna become very redundant because I'm gonna say for literally every single person in this film, they just knock it out of the park with their characters. Like he was just fantastic as mouth.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I mean they all they all kind of like play these, I guess what would be stereotypical outcast or like nerdy type roles, but they all they all hit them perfectly. Like Trunk is great as just kind of all this like wild, like out of control, always running around, like I don't know. I don't know how to really characterize Chunk because he's just always yelling in every scene he's in.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, he's just a lot.
SPEAKER_02:He's extra. There there is a lot going on with Chunk. Um but Mouth, he um his name is just Mouth, right?
SPEAKER_06:Like do we ever get any uh yeah, his father calls him by his real name.
SPEAKER_02:The Gooniepedia.
SPEAKER_06:The Goonipedia, yeah. I mean, I I'm sure I could go through it, but actually, even I think on IMDB, yeah, they just call him Mouth.
SPEAKER_02:I mean, he has a great, really super intense moment under the wishing well, too.
SPEAKER_06:It's so good. I and we're like definitely going to talk about why this movie because it, you know, I'm gonna go beyond, oh, I just love this movie, I love this movie. Like, there's there are reasons. There are reasons why I love this movie, and we'll get into it. But so we have Corey Feldman and then we have Carrie Green. So you and I both associate her with two other films.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, it's I mean, I've just seen the John Candy movie Summer Rental so many times because it's just a ridiculous fun movie where at one point they're playing darts and a dart ends up in a guy's fake wooden arm. It's amazing. But that's what I remember her from. Oh, that along with Goonies.
SPEAKER_06:And I remember her along with Goonies in Lucas.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_06:Which again, Corey Haim is in that one, um, as is Charlie Sheen. So oh, as is uh one writer. Okay. So that's those are the two films that I mostly associate with her with, and she had has done like acting since, but I don't think that in the last maybe 10 years she's she's done much. But anyway, so she had her very strong 80s career. So now moving on to another person who actually is of like um Hollywood pedigree, I guess you would say, Martha Plumpton. Um, she's the daughter of I believe Ke Keith Carradine. So really? Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Okay.
SPEAKER_06:And so she I mean, she's been working steady the whole time through. Yeah. Um, but some of her films, The Mosquito Coast, Parenthood, I adore her, and 200 cigarettes. She's so, so, so, so good.
SPEAKER_02:I forgot that she was in Parenthood, yeah. I I remember, I think 200 cigarettes was the one that I remember her most from.
SPEAKER_06:And then she's and she's also gone back to tele. I mean, so many actors are doing television and and film. So she was on the show raising hope for a while. And actually, she's also someone who does a ton of theater work. So she sometimes is not necessarily on camera, but she's working. So moving on, oh, and you know what I think what we overlooked. So Carrie Green in the film plays Andy. And then Martha Plumpton plays Steph.
SPEAKER_01:Okay.
SPEAKER_06:So we got those two down. Next, moving on to you mentioned him earlier, Data, Ki Hui Kwan.
SPEAKER_01:Okay.
SPEAKER_06:And so you tell me, I know, I know you know him from another film.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, he so this is one of a couple connections between this movie and uh Bloodsport. He, like the father from uh like Jean-Claude Van Damme's adoptive father in Bloodsport, they were both in Indiana Jones and The Temple of Doom.
SPEAKER_06:There you go.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_06:He was short round.
SPEAKER_02:That's right.
SPEAKER_06:And he, in my humble opinion, kind of steals that movie is short round. I mean, same thing as how I feel Chunk is in this film, every single scene he's in. I just am captivated by him. He did a great, great job in both films.
SPEAKER_02:He had relatively less to do. There was a lot of all the other kids yelling during certain moments and him just kind of like looking at them yelling.
SPEAKER_06:There's a little bit of a more understated performance.
SPEAKER_02:He does, yeah. Yeah, but he was great. Like I said, I I loved his character.
SPEAKER_06:He also was an Encino man. I'm gonna get these, get these. That's out of control.
SPEAKER_01:This is insane.
SPEAKER_06:So he's an Encino man, and then I don't know if you guys recall this 80s TV series Head of the Class. Do you remember? I watched Head of the Class.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, so the guy from WKRP in Cincinnati as like the teacher. Yep. Yeah.
SPEAKER_06:So he is uh in in that show with us.
SPEAKER_01:I didn't know that. Wow.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah. Okay, so we've kind of covered all the kid actors that were in this film. I know we're spending like a ton of time on this, but I I mean, folks, I don't know what else to tell you. Like, there's just so many great people who are part of this film, and I really want to give them their due diligence. So after the kids, well god, that's I don't even know if that's a fair question to ask. I was gonna say, like, who is I don't know. What I'm getting ahead of myself. I was gonna ask you which of the adult characters is most distinct to you?
SPEAKER_02:Hmm. None of them. None of them, really. I mean, this movie is well, oh, okay, so the only adult actors that are distinctive to me are the fratellies. You know, so like the throw mama from the train.
SPEAKER_06:Right.
SPEAKER_02:Okay, and uh the the guy from Die Hard, and then also the guy from The Matrix. That's what I call them, but you have more detailed information on all of these people.
SPEAKER_06:This is true. Now, see what I was throwing down that I was hoping you would pick up.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_06:Sloth.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, okay. Well, yeah, he is he is quite distinctive.
SPEAKER_06:Quite distinct.
SPEAKER_02:Yes.
SPEAKER_06:So he was played by John Matuzak. And now John Matuac, he has a really interesting history. He has passed away. He actually unfortunately died quite young. He died in 89, he was only 38 from heart failure. He was a big guy, he was 6'7. He actually had his first career as an NFL player. He played for several different teams, but uh he spent, I think, the majority of his time with the Raiders.
SPEAKER_01:Okay.
SPEAKER_06:Which comes into the film because he actually wears a Raiders t-shirt.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, I did not I didn't catch that. I knew he I knew he played in the NFL, but I didn't know for what team or uh or anything else.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, so he he was a football player, but also well beyond the Goonies, had an acting career. He loved it. And he did a lot of television. He was um not not that he necessarily had like recurring roles, but he was on Dukes of Hazard, Silver Spoons, Benson. He was in the film One Crazy Summer. So that's who we have for Sloth. Okay, so you mentioned the Fratallies. So If again, if you maybe haven't seen this film, the Goonies are the good guys, we'll say it would make this real, real simple. The Fatales are the bad guys.
SPEAKER_02:Yep. So it's all accurate.
SPEAKER_06:It's basically so from what I read, actually these characters were based on Ma Barker, the like robber. I don't know, like whatever. I don't know a lot about this person's history. But that's kind of how they were based on. And so we have Ma Fratelli, who was played by Anne Ramsay, and then her two sons. So of her two sons, the first Robert Davie. I hope I am pronouncing his last name correctly. So what actually is kind of funny about him, the story, The Goonies, was set in Astoria, Oregon.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_06:He is from Astoria, Queens.
SPEAKER_01:Interesting.
SPEAKER_06:I just thought that that was a little little note.
SPEAKER_02:It's almost a fun fact.
SPEAKER_06:It's on the verge. It's not like crazy interesting, but I thought it was kind of interesting. So I'm bringing it up. He did a ton of TV work. He I shouldn't speak about him in past times. He is alive and well.
SPEAKER_01:Oh my god, thank God.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah. Ton of TV work.
SPEAKER_02:Now you know him from Yeah, he's uh one of the FBI guys from Die Hard.
SPEAKER_06:Yes, they call him Big Johnson. Big Johnson in IMDB. Because there's two Johnson's.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. No, no, they're not related.
SPEAKER_06:Not related. So he's in Die Hard Predator 2.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, really?
SPEAKER_06:The Expendables 3.
SPEAKER_02:Okay.
SPEAKER_06:So, and and guys, like, look up his IMDB. I I just pulled a couple.
SPEAKER_02:He's got a very distinctive look.
SPEAKER_06:So very distinctive look and prolific career. I'm again gonna be using that word over and over again because just like him, the guy who plays his brother in the film, Joe Pantianello, another actor, prolific career. He has done a mix of TV and television for a long, long time. But you might know him as far as his films go. He played Cosmo and the Fugitive.
SPEAKER_01:Okay.
SPEAKER_06:He had a great little character role in that. He was really good. He's in Bad Boys. He played Cypher in The Matrix.
SPEAKER_02:That's for some reason that's what I remember him from. Yeah.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah. Um, he was in Memento, but then of his like television shows, the one that he was in, that I guess I would say he was most associated with, the Sopranos.
SPEAKER_01:Okay.
SPEAKER_06:So so that's him. So Anne Ramsey, what's interesting about her, so I do remember as a kid.
SPEAKER_01:That's Mama.
SPEAKER_06:She's she's Ma Fortell. And yes, she was, you said Throw Mama from the Train. That was a good one.
SPEAKER_02:I only remember her. Yeah.
SPEAKER_06:And she was, I believe, nominated for probably like best supporting actor for that. Okay. Or actress, I should say. Um, so she also passed away um very soon after the Goonie. She she passed in 1988 of throat cancer. She was only 59 years old. Um so so yeah, I mean, what what's unfortunate, um, not to like kind of bring this podcast to a downer place, but a lot of the adult characters who are in their own right truly wonderful in this film are no longer with us. Um we have the uh actress who played Rosalita, didn't really have too many lines, but was like a pretty instrumental character in the film.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, she she does a lot, and she's basically responsible for them not signing away their home. Exactly. So that's that's pretty important.
SPEAKER_06:She uh was played by, and again, apologies if I'm not quite getting the pronunciation of these names correct, but um Lupe Anteveros and she passed in 2012. Um, but she the the film that I remember her from, outside of Goonies, is she's in As Good as It Gets.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, that's right.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, she's Greg Kaneer's, I guess you would say, like housekeeper type figure, and asks Jack Nicholson to watch the dog.
SPEAKER_01:Okay.
SPEAKER_06:So she has a great little role in that film, and she also was on Desperate Housewives. We have Ellen uh Mary Ellen Trainer, so she's Mrs.
SPEAKER_02:Walsh. Yeah, the Mikey and Bran's mom, right? Exactly.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah. Um, she passed in 2015 of pancreatic cancer. I'm just gonna say, like, pardon language, but fuck cancer, because all these people have passed away from this. Um, but she was in other films like Romancing a Stone. She plays Kathleen Turner's sister.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, that's right. That's what I I was trying to think of. What do I remember her from?
SPEAKER_06:Yeah. I mean, she's been in ton literally every single person that we're mentioning, if you go to their IMDB, and if you don't know what IMDB is, it's a website that well, there might be people you're laughing at me, but there might be people who don't know. IMDB is a website, it's it's the most comprehensive website that has anything to do with film. So whether it's the film or the actors or anybody who has a part of anything.
SPEAKER_02:Also, we're not sponsored by IMDb, but no, no. But IMDB, if you're listening.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, if you're not listening to IMDB, we'll uh give you a nice little shout out. Moving on. Any moving on. Um, so Romancing the Stone, Lethal Weapon, Die Hard, uh, Scrooged, Death Becomes Her, and Forrest Gump. You know who she plays in Forrest Gump? I don't know. She just has like a true cameo in this film. Remember, towards the end of the film, Little Forest is already in existence. Yeah. Forrest comes to meet him for the first time. She's the babysitter.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, really?
SPEAKER_06:So she's the one that like knocks on the door and drops off Little Forest.
SPEAKER_02:That's interesting. I don't know. That's her. Yeah. All right.
SPEAKER_06:And then, okay, so we're we're coming to the end of this, but I hope it was worth it for all you guys because all these people are truly amazing actors. We have Keith Walker. So he was Mr. Walsh.
SPEAKER_01:The dad.
SPEAKER_06:The dad.
SPEAKER_01:Got it.
SPEAKER_06:Uh again, he's no longer with us. He passed also of cancer. Fuck cancer. He guess what? Not so much an actor in the industry, but he actually had a really important role in a different capacity. He wrote all the free Willie movies.
SPEAKER_02:How many were there?
SPEAKER_06:Like four?
SPEAKER_02:Wow.
SPEAKER_06:I think.
SPEAKER_02:I didn't realize that. Well, that's awesome.
SPEAKER_06:And what's funny about that is when I realized that, I was like, oh, that's so interesting. Because when I was an intern, they had all the free Willie posters in the office because the Doners produced all those films. So I'm like, oh, that's so interesting, that connection there. So okay, thank you for bearing with us with this awesome little recap of all the actors because they all are just like so awesome. I just couldn't couldn't pass over any of them.
SPEAKER_02:You can't not talk about how amazing the cast is.
SPEAKER_06:Exactly. So, okay, so now we're gonna actually get into the film. Um, here's, you know, I gave you kind of the real quick synopsis. Basically, here's the deal: Mikey and all his friends, they live at the goondocks. They don't really get into why they are all falling behind on like what I'm assuming are their mortgages, but all of the families are struggling financially and they're about to get foreclosed on. And basically, this rich guy um and his son Troy are going to be taking over the land, I think, making like a um what a gulf.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I mean, the son isn't gonna do shit. He's just like a hanger. Yeah, he's just snotty brat son, which like he he fit the I guess 80s teenage villain role pretty well to the extent that he like that he was a villain. I guess he was just like a snarky, snarky kid.
SPEAKER_05:Very snarky.
SPEAKER_02:Um also I feel like there were a lot of movies from this era where golf courses were really portrayed in a negative light. Well because any anytime anyone's home was like if there's anything being demolished. Well, what about Caddyshrack?
SPEAKER_06:Was that 80s? It was like 1980.
SPEAKER_02:I think that was a reaction to all the negative golf course in of the 70s? Yeah, yeah. Exactly.
SPEAKER_06:So it really had to be. Something's getting torn down.
SPEAKER_02:Something's getting torn down. It's gonna be a golf course. That's that's what I remember from a lot of this, like the movies from this era. So so yes, I don't know what circumstances led to these separate families and their homes being close to foreclosure, but uh yeah, it was all gonna become part of the country club, the Astoria Country Club. Exactly.
SPEAKER_06:So that's why these kids they're they're pretty sad. I think it's like the last day before they have to all start moving.
SPEAKER_02:They're all moving to Detroit?
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, it does something happening. Dana's like, have you guys ever heard of Detroit? And apparently they are all moving to Detroit. One, I didn't understand why they're all moving to Detroit. Two, they all are like, no, don't know of Detroit. How do you not know of Detroit?
SPEAKER_02:It's a small town. Not many people, I mean I mean knows about Detroit.
SPEAKER_06:You're bearing lead here. You are you were born in Detroit.
SPEAKER_02:That's true. I was.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, yeah. You're you're literally wearing a Detroit hat as we record this.
SPEAKER_02:That's also true.
SPEAKER_06:It's also true. So there's, yeah, like I said, there's a lot in this film where you're like, what? But it's still, it's all fun. Don't take it too seriously.
SPEAKER_02:I mean, yeah, you gotta you gotta set it up somehow. Don't don't think about it too much. Don't think about it too much. That's the moral of this movie for me, is just don't think about it too much.
SPEAKER_06:Just go along for the ride. So, okay, so this is where they're at. Um, Mikey's dad happens to have in their attic all of these artifacts. I think he works in a museum, and so he's kept a lot of it in their attic, and they're not supposed to go up there, but uh, who was it? Mouth? I think it was mouth who convinces them all to go up there because maybe there's quote rich stuff. They bring up rich stuff all the time.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I think they were like, yeah, they just they were told not to go up there, so of course you know they go up there, yeah.
SPEAKER_06:So when they do, you mentioned this earlier, Chunk by complete accident, because he's kind of accident prone. He's pretty clumsy, he's clumsy, they come across this old map, and with this old map is the story of One-Eyed Willie.
SPEAKER_02:Mikey goes through this whole story of the story of how One-Eyed Willie was the most famous pirate of his time. Correct. What does that even mean?
SPEAKER_06:Exactly. So, again, don't think about it too much.
SPEAKER_02:And how is he so familiar with this pirate?
SPEAKER_06:Because his dad told him all about him once.
SPEAKER_02:Alright, that's fair. His dad works at a museum, right?
SPEAKER_06:Exactly.
SPEAKER_02:Okay.
SPEAKER_06:Um, so he tells the story to everybody else. They're all pretty captivated. Well, that's not entirely true. Like, Brandon Mouth are like, whatever. But he tells this story, and Mikey actually makes a 180 because he was the one kid who is like, let's not go up into the attic. Dad doesn't want us to go up there. But then once they get up there and they find this, then he's all about like we need to go find this treasure.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, he switches gears real fast.
SPEAKER_06:Real fast. And he's like, this could be the thing that actually saves the goondocks. The other guys, you get the sense that, and this might be where I segue a little bit. So you get the sense that Mikey has brought forth these different adventures before. I mean, Chunk actually says, I don't want to go on any more of your crazy Goonie adventures. So this is in part why I adore this film, because you know, Richard, I'm gonna chalk it up to great acting, great directing, a really fun script, but somehow they made it seem like these kids had actually known each other forever. They knew each other's quirks, they it it was so realistic to me, and I think that's why it spoke to me so strongly as a kid, because I'm looking at these kids and I'm like, they it just doesn't even seem like they're acting to me. It just felt like they were friends who knew each other. It was so natural, and also on top of it, they were swearing.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, no, they the the interaction of the kids is great because it does feel like super real. Like it reminds me a little bit of of like the feedback that people give on stranger things, especially the first season when all the kids, all the friends, you really believe that these kids are friends and that they're just getting in these like crazy adventures, and especially in the Goonies, like in that in that period of time, I can actually believe that these kids are just going off and doing this stuff. Like it is very believable that in the 80s some kids would just hop on their bikes and take off for the day and be gone and with no way of really like touching back in with their parents or anything. Yeah, they're just gonna go off and do something. And I mean, I remember watching as a kid thinking, like, yeah, yeah, that all of this is possible. Sure.
SPEAKER_06:It just felt so real, and I just give huge props because again, I don't know if this film is necessarily looked at for its excellence, I'll say, but at the same time, they they all just did an amazing job of having that authenticity come through.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah.
SPEAKER_06:And I just picked up on that immediately as a kid, and it really has not like the the the shine has not dulled over the last 30-ish years. Like it's still is just as good.
SPEAKER_02:A combination of it being in a period of time where you could believe that this like these kids would actually just go off and do stuff, and uh, you know, this movie being made at a time when it was all obviously like practical effects.
SPEAKER_06:So it it's there's like some green screening going on that's not like super clean, yeah, but it's fine.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. But um, you know, I think the more practical effects in a movie like this, the better in my mind, because it just uh it gives it just a better sense of realism. It it there's less of something completely bonkers taking you out of the film. Yeah. So from start to finish, like I believed that these kids were all friends and that they were actually like going and doing this stuff. What I didn't believe, like I, you know, we'll get into this later, but when when they're in the caves, I'm like, okay, the pirate wanted to protect all his stuff. Did he have to uh like carve out one of the caves to look like a giant skull? It looks cool, but that seems it seems unnecessary.
SPEAKER_06:We've gone over this. Don't don't think about it too much. Just just go go with the flow.
SPEAKER_02:Maybe he was done, he's like, you know what, I got some extra time.
SPEAKER_06:He had all the time in the world, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:It's true.
SPEAKER_06:So, no, I mean you're right. There's nothing that you just said that I disagree with. But um, and and in terms of why why this film is just so special, you know, like you were just saying everything that takes place in terms of like the relationships and all that, very realistic. We are gonna do some clips that kind of speak to each of their characters, but before we get into those clips, I want to just like really quickly kind of get us through the stories so that when we do play them, it doesn't seem out of context. Basically, so they get this map, they do Mikey all of a sudden they change their minds. Everybody's willing to go along with Mikey.
SPEAKER_02:Well, they all they all know about the story, like Brand tells them about like, oh, everyone tried finding this treasure.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:But now that they find this map, I think obviously Mikey looks at it as their chance to save their town.
SPEAKER_06:Exactly. And so he gets the three friends to momentarily incapacitate Brand, and the boys take off. And this is where I would say here's the thing. This is called 80s movie montage. This film has a soft montage.
SPEAKER_02:It's montage-ish.
SPEAKER_06:It's montage-ish. Um it's about 24 minutes in. It's it is when the boys ride off. They leave Mikey's house and they ride through town. Eventually they get to a more kind of um foresty part of their town. They're like right by the shore. And I don't, you know, it's what's funny about that is I guess they must have taken a look at where the map told them to start because I don't know where how they knew to actually go to that one spot.
SPEAKER_02:I think they saw a landmark that they were trying to get to. Like they identified, I think that at one point they talked about the old restaurant maybe before they got there. So I think they knew that that was kind of like the starting place.
SPEAKER_06:Fair, fair enough. So I may have made that up. It's and that's fine. Um, but during this little minute-long soft montage, that that's what's taking place. And probably what is more interesting about this montage, you brought it up really briefly earlier, is the song that's playing.
SPEAKER_01:Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_06:And which is Cindy Lauper's song. Cindy Lauper's Goonies are good enough. Um we are not going to play a clip of the song only because there may be some uh Yeah, music's weird.
SPEAKER_02:Music's weird.
SPEAKER_06:Music's weird, so we don't want to get in trouble with anybody.
SPEAKER_02:Um but on the the DVD that we I can sing it to watch it. Uh we there was also the separate Cyndi Lauper music video, and it was one of the most completely bonkers thing that I've that I've seen. Yeah, it was 12 minutes long. It had two parts. It featured Steven Spielberg.
SPEAKER_06:Features Steven Spielberg, and like we were saying when we were watching it, I do remember all of the hoopla around that because they did split it up into like it was like an event. Yeah. So you had the first half of the video, and then you did actually have to wait for the second half of the video to drop for you to find out what happened.
SPEAKER_02:Featuring Rowdy Roddy Piper. A lot, Captain Lou Albano, Andre the Giant.
SPEAKER_06:Andre the Giant. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:It's it's insane. If you if you can look, if you haven't seen the movie, definitely see the movie. But if you haven't seen the video and you have 12 minutes to spare, give it a shot.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah. Um, so that's the montage, and one thing that we do talk about is like, quote, the effectiveness of the montage. It it sets up the adventure. I mean, it's not some like godfather-esque, you know, Michael becoming the godfather baptism scene type montage. So it it's not, it doesn't rank up there, but it's fine.
SPEAKER_02:Um yeah, no, it got the kids um out on their bikes and out to the, I guess, the start point of the treasure hunt. Uh, I think we start seeing Brand. He he He goes after them. Yeah, he steals a little girl's bike and Data's little sister. Oh, is that okay? Okay, so yeah, he does that, and it just gets us like, we gotta get all these kids out of this house somehow.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, and let's do a montage. It's it's fine. I mean, what honestly probably works to our benefit in this episode is we've already talked so much about like who's in it, and there's a lot more to talk about. Or the the montage part of this podcast is gonna be relatively light this episode, and that's all fine too.
SPEAKER_02:I like to think of this whole podcast as a montage of 80s movies.
SPEAKER_06:You would not be wrong, Mark. Yeah. So boys take off. Eventually, what happens is they make it to this restaurant that is, quote, only open in the summer, although it looks like it hasn't been open in like literally 30 years.
SPEAKER_02:It's real run down.
SPEAKER_06:It's real rough.
SPEAKER_02:It looks it looks bad.
SPEAKER_06:That's when they first cross paths with the fratellis. They do go in. The fratellies kind of very poorly make it seem as if they are like part of this restaurant. They eventually scare off the boys, but the fratellis leave with uh quote restaurant trash, which actually is a dead FBI agent.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, there were a few, there are a few bodies in this movie.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, a few bodies. Um, if anybody, you know, doesn't want small children watching.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, well, there's a lot to talk about as far as that goes. We can if we have time, I'd love to get to some of that.
SPEAKER_06:Okay. But the boys then decide to go back. Bran is like, we're getting out of here, but then Andy and Steph show up. If you didn't know this already, Bran and Andy have like kind of a little fling going, and so she convinces him to let the boys stay so she can spend time with him. Fast forward to them finding the beginning of the tunnel. All the kids file into this tunnel because the fratelli's come back, except for Chunk. Chunk uh gets locked, well, not locked, he gets kind of stuck in the freezer with actually another one of the dead bodies. Another dead body. So they tell him, like, you need you need to go get help. Like we're we're in big trouble, you need to go help. But because the fratellers are there, they start to go through this tunnel. So, yes, there's still this like, oh, we're gonna find buried treasure, but actually they're like, we need to not get killed by these people. So they start going through, and then that's when they start going through all these like booby traps.
SPEAKER_02:Booty traps?
SPEAKER_06:Booby traps, that's what I said. Quatch. Um, so anyway, they they start going through, and the fratellies uh come across Chunk, because Chunk he actually does get out, but he flags down a car, which happens to be guess what?
SPEAKER_02:I love that moment though. There's there's this moment where he's kind of spilling the entire, like, here's everything that's going wrong. We found these Fratelli's or the these wanted uh criminals, and then you just see the light go on, and you see uh uh Big Johnson.
SPEAKER_05:Yes.
SPEAKER_02:The guy you see his face in the side view mirror lit up when he turns on the light in the car, and he he's just so amused by all of it. He's he's great.
SPEAKER_06:He's so great, and I believe he actually is um might be a little too much to say like opera. He's a trained singer.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, he sings several times singing opera throughout the movie at all times. If he's upset, he's singing opera. If he's a little anxious, opera.
SPEAKER_06:It there's almost not a scene in the film that isn't like a quote classic scene, but this one in particular is hilarious because the other brother comes around, grabs Chunk to put him in the back of their RV, and he's just like smoking a cigarette and like singing, and in the back of the shot you can see Chunk like struggling, and the other brother struggling to get him basically down into the RV. It's just so good.
SPEAKER_02:They're not they're not too far off size-wise. Like Chunk had a chance.
SPEAKER_06:Chunk had a chance.
SPEAKER_02:He had a he had like a fighter's chance. Uh he he ultimately loses, ends up in the trunk next to another dead body.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, yeah. Uh so it's just so that's that's where Chunk goes. And and at this point, they take him back and they're asking him about his friends. He is telling them the truth. He's telling them they're in the fireplace where the tunnel starts. They obviously don't believe him at first, but then these bats come through, and that's how they realize, oh no, he's actually telling the truth. So the fratelli is once they realize no, there actually is supposed buried treasure, treasure somewhere that they can maybe have claim to, they go after the kids and the treasure.
SPEAKER_02:The fratellis are nothing, if not all, about the money.
SPEAKER_06:Exactly. So basically at this point, um, probably about halfway through the kids going through the tunnel, they realize that the fratellis are on their trail. Everybody eventually gets to the pirate ship. And well, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Mikey, Mikey and crew and the fratellis, and then later, Chunk makes it back with his new best friend.
SPEAKER_06:Sloth.
SPEAKER_02:Yep.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:So they do they do all make it onto the ship at the end.
SPEAKER_06:And you know what I'm gonna do actually? Um we talked about clips earlier. I think the one clip I want to play which speaks to who the so by all stents and purposes, Mikey's the main character, even though it's like a huge ensemble cast. He's he's the main character. And he is kind of the heart of the Goonies, I think you could say. And so there is a part where potentially they had a chance to get out of the tunnel. We mentioned earlier the snotty brat Troy. I don't know how many teenage boys do this on your average night, but they were hanging out at a wishing well.
SPEAKER_02:They were hanging out at the wishing well, they were looking very smug about it too, which was interesting to me. But it's what I guess the bottom of this wishing well leads right down to the cave that the Goonies were in.
SPEAKER_06:Exactly. And so once the Goonies realize that Troy is up there and he could potentially help them get out, there's this moment where they have a choice to make. And even though they already at this point know that well, actually, I don't know if they know that the fratellis are on their tail. I don't think it's quite there yet.
SPEAKER_02:I'm not sure, because at a certain point when Chunk is being interrogated with uh the threat of having his hand stuck into a blender, uh, which was pretty intense, I thought, at the t at the time. It really is. So when they let him go, when they right before they head down the uh the the hole where the fireplace was, when the bats come out, you can hear Chunk like yelling at them that the Fratellis are coming. You can't and actually But but no one I don't think they hear him.
SPEAKER_06:Now that I'm like replaying the film in my head, this this is just prior to to when the Fratelli's realize that there is a tunnel and they go after them because it's after this point that Data falls, he finds a new room, they go down. So anyway, so this is just prior, but still they know that they, you know, are in trouble. So I just want to play the clip of Mikey convincing everybody to to actually continue on with this journey.
SPEAKER_00:Don't you realize? The next time you see the sky, moving over another test. The next time you take a test. It's gonna be down here. The second we run up it.
SPEAKER_06:So that clip again. I love virtually every line of this film. I can almost recite every line of this film, but I especially like this moment because he is so earnest.
SPEAKER_02:He really is.
SPEAKER_06:He's so he's so freaking earnest about needing to do this and how this is their time down here. And he can he convinces them all.
SPEAKER_02:I don't know that they've necessarily faced the potential lethal danger at this point. And uh Martha Plimpton's character, I think, mentions that, like, hey, maybe we should take the bucket and get out before one of us gets hurt or killed.
SPEAKER_05:That was Andy.
SPEAKER_02:Was it Andy? Okay, yeah.
SPEAKER_05:Because she's the one who's like, I'm not a coon.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:So yeah, that moment was uh interesting. He was he was basically Mikey's hell betting on getting this damn treasure.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, and I the reason why I felt the need to play that clip is because then they finally do get to the ship. And what I'm kind of bringing this up a little bit prematurely, but I'll bring up this fun fact. So so that ship, for for what they filmed on the ship, that was all real.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_06:And Donner made a point of not showing any of the kids what this looked like until it was time to film because he really wanted those genuine reactions of the like awe and shock at kind of the magnificence of it. So what you're seeing in the film is pretty authentic. So when they first go down all those um the uh pirate water slide beaters. Uh yeah, which man, I wanted to do that so bad.
SPEAKER_02:It's another one of those uh moments in the movie where I'm like, yeah, this totally makes sense that uh there are these secret pirate caves under this town. And sure, why wouldn't there be a w a system of water slides to carry you from those tunnels back to where the ship is? That all seemed to make perfect sense. But when I was watching, I'm like, what this is kind of insane. I like it, I love it, it's so much fun, but so fun, so fun.
SPEAKER_06:And I know. But um, so they finally make it to the ship and they're kind of walking around. I mean, they see some kind of gruesome stuff. You can obviously tell that some of the pirates on board had been murdered, and they start to get a little frustrated with Mikey because they are not finding the treasure. Finally, Andy she pulls on something, she thinks it's another booby trap, but actually it it opens up like a hatch. A hatch, exactly, to where finally Mikey he punches through, he gets up there, and he finds, lo and behold, one-eyed Willie sitting at a table, and the whole room, the table, everything is just filled with gems and gold coins and everything. The balloons. Um, so he he goes in there, eventually the rest of the juni Goonies join him, but he again just has this earnestness to him where he's he has like a little talk.
SPEAKER_02:He has a moment with uh with one-eyed William.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, and one-eyed Willie is the f he calls him the first Goonie.
SPEAKER_02:He does, he does do that.
SPEAKER_06:I don't I think he's a real bond with this guy he only knew of well that's untrue. His dad told him the story about one-eyed Willy, but in any case, most famous power of his time. Exactly.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_06:So at that point, they're filling up, they're taking as much as their little hands can can hold to get the gems and get out of there. Well, lo and behold, the fratellis catch up with them. So at that point, uh, there's a little back and forth. The fratellis, even though that whole freaking room is filled, chalk-filled, with I don't know what the the dollar value would be on all that, but enough for anybody.
SPEAKER_02:It's difficult to ascertain the actual cash value of the items on the ship. But you're led to believe it's high given that just a handful of them pay off the mortgages of some home.
SPEAKER_06:So and I always thought it was so selfish of the fratellies to I mean, it's it's sure well within their character.
SPEAKER_02:So what we need is a Goonies sequel that's essentially a legal drama about the ownership of the ship that sails away. Exactly. Because someone for sure they got that boat. Exactly. Yeah.
SPEAKER_06:So they make the poor Goonies dump everything that they have.
SPEAKER_02:However, Mikey's holding on to something.
SPEAKER_06:And he didn't realize it himself. So Sloth arrives with Chunk, as you mentioned. There's a little, again, little interaction. The Goonies manage to escape. Sloth has a little bit of a confrontation with his brothers and mom because, quite frankly, he was treated as like the red-headed stepchild in this family.
SPEAKER_02:There are a lot of uh aspects of this movie that I don't think would be made the same today. And the way that he was treated was pretty rough. And so contrast that with me thinking that everything's totally cool with having a set of water slides, and now looking at it going like, uh, that's I don't know why I thought that would make sense, but it was super fun. When I I remember seeing like and feeling like sad about Sloth when I was a kid, and now I'm like, this is like really awful.
SPEAKER_03:Oh dark.
SPEAKER_02:This is there, there are a lot of uh aspects of uh of the movie, and I think this probably applies to a lot of like older movies from from the 80s or 90s.
SPEAKER_06:I mean, this could be something that we talk, and we kind of have already in the first couple episodes where there's just problematic And and this movie came out in 85, which was right after, I think, right around the time that the uh MPAA had made some changes to how films were rated. I think it was implemented 85-86. Yeah. Um because it was Back to the Future, I believe, that was the one that made them do it.
SPEAKER_02:Gremlins, I think was Oh, were the Gremlins? Yeah.
SPEAKER_06:Okay. Chris Columbus again.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, these like hyper violent movies that were in in many ways still directed at kids. Right. Uh and and so this.
SPEAKER_06:I mean, don't even get me started on the Dark Crystal.
SPEAKER_02:Oh yeah. Yeah. The movie's amazing. But but yeah, so that you're right. There are a lot of things in this movie, not not just Sloth and his treatment. Yeah. But that is what led to him kind of, you know, he he befriends Chunk, who like they get along over their shared love of baby Ruth. Uh, and you know, Sloth kind of like saves the day.
SPEAKER_06:He he For sure he does. Oh, that's another thing. So, you know how you were like, oh, I didn't realize he played for the Raiders and he's wearing another Easter egg. You know this moment where he so the Goonies have jumped off the ship. They're swimming to safety and trying to get out of there. Sloth is left with his brothers and Mafratelli, and he rips open his shirt, and what is underneath it?
SPEAKER_02:Oh, that's it's a Superman.
SPEAKER_06:Superman, yeah. Director, with your daughter.
SPEAKER_02:That's that's actually Isn't that amazing? I hadn't made that connection, yeah. That's awesome.
SPEAKER_06:Isn't that so cool? Yeah. So he deals with his brother and Ma, but eventually what happens is I mean, it's a little again, one of those things that's not like not quite explained. All of a sudden the cave starts collapsing, the cave that the ship is trapped in.
SPEAKER_02:So yeah, it's at the very same time that the anchor starts coming up. Yeah, this uh massive opening forms that allows the ship to leave this little like cove. Uh the anchor is brought up. There was a separate hole. I think they used uh dynamite that they found.
SPEAKER_06:Oh, I guess we don't know.
SPEAKER_02:Like blow open a hole for the kids to get out.
SPEAKER_06:That's interesting. I mean, I wonder if that's what they were trying to connect. Is like that one stick of dynamite was causing the cave to collapse.
SPEAKER_02:I don't know. I think like I think that the massive opening large enough for the ship was all part of like some ultimate booby trap that if you try to take his gold, oh you're right. You're we're all we're all gonna piece out, and we're taking off.
SPEAKER_06:There you go. So at that point, Sloth, even though he was like kind of standing up for himself, he, you know, he's a lovable guy. And he starts helping his mom and brothers escape. Because I mean, these huge chunks of rock are.
SPEAKER_02:Not to be confused with actual chunk.
SPEAKER_06:With actual chunk are falling. And the Goonies um sloth also helps them get out, so they they get out first. All the Goonies get out.
SPEAKER_02:The the like the the boulders falling, falling onto the ship. It it was funny because they I mean the sound effects were fine. It sounded it sounded like actual boulders were falling, but then you see them hit the deck.
SPEAKER_06:They would have crashed right through.
SPEAKER_02:Except for that wood They're almost like bouncing off of it.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, the wood is like hundreds of years old. Yeah, uh, yeah. Anyway.
SPEAKER_02:I love that moment.
SPEAKER_06:It's it's great. Uh so the the kids all get out, and then so I don't think I can necessarily make this a recurring theme with all my picks, but I am two for two here. So in The Breakfast Club, there was uh uh uncredited cameo by the director of that film, John Hughes. He played Brian's father at the very end, just literally just came to pick him up from the school.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_06:In this film, after the Goonies escape, you have these two cops on uh forerunners. Yeah, they are on the beach where the Goonies are kind of dumped out of the cave, and you have one of them say, It's them goobers. That is Mr. Richard Donner.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, they're look for such a small town, they're they're police, they were on it. I mean, within no time flat, there are police, emergency vehicles, uh the kids have blankets over them, I think, because it's cold. Uh everyone's hypothermia, yeah. The entire the entire town is there with news reporters, yeah. They're look, they're on it.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:The response time is impeccable.
SPEAKER_06:Impeccable. So even though they didn't believe Chunk initially, and that same guy is there. So he he and that's what's funny is that like Richard Donner, he makes his little cameo and then he goes away. He's not actually one of the cops that like stays on the scene. But anyway. The uh the country club guy's there, which like look that's uh kind of an amazing little tidbit because it's like really, really, you're tracking him down to he just is reunited with his two sons that have been missing. It's a little intense. It's a little intense, but they make him sign off on the foreclosure right there.
SPEAKER_02:Well, they try to.
SPEAKER_06:They try, but then so the kids have at least taken off some of their layers that were wet. Rosalita is going through Mikey's jacket.
SPEAKER_02:Dios mío.
SPEAKER_06:Exactly. She comes across his marble bag, and that's what we were talking about earlier, folks. So he had dumped out his marbles and put in some gems. She span uh mouth knows Spanish. She starts yelling in Spanish. He eventually No ferme. Yeah, don't sign, no sign. And so she dumps into Mrs. Walsh's hands these gems, and Mikey's like, we don't have to leave the goondocks.
SPEAKER_02:And those gems appeared to me to be priceless costume jewelry. Uh I don't know what the value again of those were.
SPEAKER_06:They were even kind of hazy. Like they weren't even like clear. Like it didn't look like they were.
SPEAKER_02:Look, all the money had to go into the sound effects to make us believe those boulders were early toppling. And uh chunks not chunks, sloths remote-controlled prosthetic eye.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah. Yeah. So Mikey's dead, he rips up the contract.
SPEAKER_02:There'll be nothing, no one's signing anything today or ever again. No, so the first part, okay, no one's signed today, but I feel like people are gonna sign things.
SPEAKER_06:Things are gonna have to get signed at some point. Someday. Yeah. But uh so so there you go. You have like your first part of the happy ending where all the Goonies realize that they don't have to leave the goondocks. That's great. Then, I mean, just well, the fratellies come up, the cops are ready to take them all in.
SPEAKER_02:They are immediately captured.
SPEAKER_06:Immediately captured, but the kids run to Sloth's rescue and say, like, no, no, no, those are the bad guys, he's fine. The cops are like, cool.
SPEAKER_02:They're fine with it. They're like, we accept this, and then I think Chunk immediately adopts Sloth and says, You're gonna be fine, Sloth. I'm gonna I'm gonna take care of you.
SPEAKER_06:Because I love ya.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_06:And then Sloth reaffirms his love for Chunk.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_06:So then you have more happiness, and then finally, you have one of the cop, actually, the cop who didn't believe Chunk in the very beginning. One of my I mean, again, love this movie, can recite so many of the lines, but holy Mary, mother of God. The reason why he says that is because lo and behold, one-eyed Willie's ship is coming across the horizon on the water.
SPEAKER_02:It's it's moving too. It is it is moving at speed.
SPEAKER_06:It has it has some speed behind it. So it's, you know, kind of like what you were saying earlier. It's like, okay, well, there's still a lot of treasure on that ship, so who's gonna go after that ship? Nobody needs to go after that ship, but so you have just happy endings all around. Um, I guess you would say, in a manner of speaking, when I will he's back on the high seas, he's free again, doing his thing. And that folks.
SPEAKER_01:That's it.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah. And then we go back into Goonies Are Good Enough, that awesome song by Cindy Lauper. Yep. Um, so that is the awesomeness that is the Goonies movie. And actually, you know, one thing that we typically do once we kind of get done is we have some fun facts. We've kind of brought up a lot of the fun facts already, just in the course of talking about the film.
SPEAKER_02:In my mind, the Goonies, there, that's your fun fact. The whole movie is just a collection of fun facts.
SPEAKER_06:Actually, very true. Very, very true. I mean, again, I I adore the people who are in this film. I adore the people who are behind the camera. Um, the the dialogue in particular is just so amazing. All of the performances are just great.
SPEAKER_02:Like anyway, I just there is one fun fact that I want to make sure we're able to get to.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, what's up?
SPEAKER_02:So we we didn't really talk about the part of the caves where apparently all of the plumbing for I guess the the country club was uh it was underneath. So they start like banging on the pipes, I think, trying to get help.
SPEAKER_05:Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_02:Um, and we get to some dudes in a shower at the country club.
SPEAKER_05:Yes.
SPEAKER_02:One of them is wearing an eye patch.
SPEAKER_05:Yes.
SPEAKER_02:And I'm thinking it's it's like uh quite uh appropriate to have like this guy with what appears to be like a piratey-looking eye patch. Yeah, you thought maybe they just threw that on him in a movie that's you know, mostly about pirates. Yeah.
SPEAKER_06:You thought Well, because of Bloodsport and the little bit of homework I did about it last time, I knew that the director of Bloodsport had an eye patch. Yes. Newt Arnold. And so just like kind of randomly, I was like, wouldn't that be funny if that was Newt Arnold? And then I just decided, you know what?
SPEAKER_02:Folks, it was Newt Arnold.
SPEAKER_06:It was Newt Arnold! I was like, and you see, you're usually the person who finds those like fun cameos when we're watching stuff. I don't often have those moments.
SPEAKER_02:I don't I don't think I've ever seen Newt Arnold before. I never I I was honestly not aware of Newt Arnold until we went over Blood Sport. So I I I'll recognize a face. I'll recognize a cameo because I'll like remember the face, but for for him, I'd never even consider that a possibility.
SPEAKER_06:I mean, I was just like so stoked that that that actually was the case. And here's the reason: it wasn't just like completely random in this director who had like a four-decade career was like, you know what? I'm I want to play in the shower scene in the Goonies.
SPEAKER_02:I want to be shower guy number two.
SPEAKER_06:He actually was the first assistant director of the second unit in the Goonies. So so there you go. And actually, what we noticed in the end credits is that he is it it is the same person. We're not lying about who this person is, but I think maybe he didn't quite want people to know that he was one of the shower guys, and so his name is credited a little bit differently than it is as his first assistant director credit. Yeah, he's Newton Newton, something with his middle name. So anyway, that that's like an awesome fun fact. So we brought up pretty much all of the other ones except just a couple that I wanted to point out. So maybe maybe I'm actually not giving this film enough credit as far as like how it's viewed by other people, because it was added to the National Film Registry in 2017.
SPEAKER_01:Okay.
SPEAKER_06:So it's this film's gonna stay with us. It's going to be protected and preserved, so that's awesome.
SPEAKER_01:As it should be.
SPEAKER_06:As it should be. So here's a little bit of a bittersweet fun fact for me. June 7th is Goonies Day and Astoria.
SPEAKER_01:Okay.
SPEAKER_06:Probably nobody knows why that would be bittersweet except for you.
SPEAKER_02:I know why.
SPEAKER_06:Why?
SPEAKER_02:It's your birthday.
SPEAKER_06:Well, it's one day off.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, wait.
SPEAKER_06:June 7th, dear husband. But the reason being because it was released on June 7th. So that's why that's the day. But I'm like, oh, I mean, I just endured this movie, and I'm like, it's one day off for my birthday. If it could have just been one day after. Anyway, so that is, I thought, a little bit of a fun fact. But it is probably more for me than anybody. And then lastly, the last one I got is that I'm I feel like I need to do more research on this, but I did come across some info saying that one-eyed Willie's skull was made from real bone. Okay, I don't know how you quite make a skull from real bone. I feel like that'd be a really difficult task.
SPEAKER_02:Sounds like it was just a real skull.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, maybe that's what they meant. But the reason why I'm like, that's so interesting. Because here's the deal. So sorry to keep bringing this up, but it is one of the highlights of my life, other than marrying my amazing husband. When I had that inner internship, when I was interviewing for it, they actually brought me into because he wasn't there, so they brought me into Richard Donner's office to conduct the interview. I could barely pay attention to anything that was being asked of me because one eyed Willie's skull was in the room. It was in, it was like in, you know, one of those like plastic kind of show-off-y type boxes, and I just like couldn't, I I couldn't focus on anything. That's pretty cool. So I, guys, that's like one of my life highlights. I've actually been in the same airspace as one-eyed Willie's.
SPEAKER_01:Did he have the patch?
SPEAKER_06:Had the patch. Nice. Yeah, of course. So so those are all my fun facts. That's all I got. You had some good ones?
SPEAKER_02:Do I?
SPEAKER_06:Well, yeah. I mean, you brought up the makeup for sloth and the remote control and and all of that good stuff.
SPEAKER_02:Well, I mean, I know that they they tried unsuccessfully to get the kids to not get sloths or yeah, sloth's face wet because the amount of work put into the perception. Yeah.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:And uh so immediately they got it wet.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah. Yeah. I mean that that was my delayed production. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:So I mean they're kids. They're still kids. No, that's part of the magic of the movie, is just how they act naturally, so naturally is kids. Um, so yeah.
SPEAKER_06:Okay. So that's all we got, other than I have to ask you this question. Would you watch this film again?
SPEAKER_02:I I've watched it so many times, and I will absolutely happily watch it again.
SPEAKER_06:I feel like another screening is very much in my future.
SPEAKER_02:We're gonna go watch it right now.
SPEAKER_06:Right now. I feel like that's a pretty, pretty uh easy question to answer for me, at least.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_06:So, okay, before we do our little sneak peek of next uh our next episode, there are so many great lines in this film, so many great one-liners. And so my call to action to everybody is if you've ever used, because actually all of these, except for maybe one, I actually have said in real life. So I wanted to know which of these Goonie lines have you ever used in real life.
SPEAKER_02:Is one of them, hey you guys?
SPEAKER_06:Yes, that's the first one. So I have eight of them. I know that's a lot, but um, hey you guys.
SPEAKER_02:Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_06:Sloth love chunk.
SPEAKER_02:I have not used that in real life.
SPEAKER_06:I've said that. Okay. I've said that for I don't know what, but I smell ice cream. I love that one so much. Here's another big one. Goonies never say die.
SPEAKER_02:That's a good one.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah. Jerk alert. Or an ult to that. Senior jerk alert.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_06:This one I've actually said a lot of times, not really making sense that I've said it because I just love the line so much. I feel like I'm babysitting, except I'm not getting paid.
SPEAKER_02:Martha Plinton's character. Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_06:Actually, I think that's on like one of my business cards. Anyway, uh, we played this clip. Down here, it's our time. Yeah. It's our time down here. And then the last one, courtesy of Mafratelli.
SPEAKER_02:Mm-hmm. Uh oh God.
SPEAKER_06:I'm pointing at Derek right now because he should know this one.
SPEAKER_02:What she said, oh yeah, kids suck.
SPEAKER_06:There you go. There you go. So, so I mean, again, so many amazing lines. If you have ever said any of those, or maybe you have your own. I don't want to necessarily limit you. If you have any lines from the Goonies that you have worked into your life and you just say, let us know about it. You can go to our Facebook, Twitter, or Instagram, and all the handles are the same. It's uh 80s Montage Pod, and 80s is 80S Montage Pod.
SPEAKER_02:No apostrophe.
SPEAKER_06:No apostrophe. We kept it so you don't do it with handles, yeah. So, alright. Next episode sneak peek. That means that it must be Derek's pick.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, I I legitimately have no idea what this pick is. If if you could see the the horror on my face right now, uh I'd have no idea.
SPEAKER_06:A little clue.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, okay, I need a clue. Wait, is it the Karate Kid?
SPEAKER_06:There you go. Do you know what my clue was gonna be?
SPEAKER_02:No, what was your clu clue gonna be?
SPEAKER_06:You're the best. Yeah, that's a good Yeah, there you go. I won't I won't torture people with my singing, but so yes. Next time coming on deck is gonna be the Karate Kid.
SPEAKER_02:Which is interesting because it's probably the only one of these movies that we're gonna cover where it was resurrected in some way with the Cobra Kai show.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, that's actually a great point.
SPEAKER_02:I'm sure our podcast will focus mostly just on the Karate Kid.
SPEAKER_06:So much from the 80s is getting like rebooted or whatever. So but but that is one that has been successful.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah. So that's it, folks. Thank you so much for hanging with us. I know this was a little bit longer than normal, but that's just because this movie's that good. So thank you for sticking with us, and we just love having you along for the ride.
SPEAKER_02:This honestly could have been another half hour easily with all the uh the bits that we have on this movie. So thank you for listening, and we promise to do better next time.
SPEAKER_05:See ya, I'm gonna