'80s Movie Montage
Breaking down our favorite decade of flicks. Hosted by Anna Keizer and Derek Dehanke.
'80s Movie Montage
The Slumber Party Massacre
In this episode, Anna and Derek chat about what high school girls really do in locker rooms, why Russ Thorn might be the most unambiguous movie serial killer ever, and more during their discussion of The Slumber Party Massacre (1982).
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Anna Keizer and Derek Dehanke are the co-hosts of ‘80s Movie Montage. The idea for the podcast came when they realized just how much they talk – a lot – when watching films from their favorite cinematic era. Their wedding theme was “a light nod to the ‘80s,” so there’s that, too. Both hail from the Midwest but have called Los Angeles home for several years now. Anna is a writer who received her B.A. in Film/Video from Columbia College Chicago and M.A. in Film Studies from Chapman University. Her dark comedy short She Had It Coming was an Official Selection of 25 film festivals with several awards won for it among them. Derek is an attorney who also likes movies. It is a point of pride that most of their podcast episodes are longer than the movies they cover.
Let's go by and scare the girls tonight. But we're not invited. Just a baby scare. I mean, you know how girls love to scream. I don't know. What's the worst that can happen? I mean, so they get mad at us. They could beat the shit out of us. That's right, we did. Fuck Jim.
SPEAKER_01:Whoa, and welcome to 80s Movie Montage. This is Derek.
SPEAKER_00:And this is Anna.
SPEAKER_01:And that was just two guys that don't really end up mattering that much talking about shit they were gonna do in 1982's The Slumber Party Massacre. They
SPEAKER_00:don't even get names. We'll cover them.
SPEAKER_01:Jeff and Neil, I think, maybe.
SPEAKER_00:Jeff and Russ?
SPEAKER_01:Russ?
SPEAKER_00:Hold on, hold on, hold on. Jeff... Neil. Did you say Neil?
SPEAKER_01:I did. Okay,
SPEAKER_00:I was wrong. My apologies. But yes, the slumber party massacre. I
SPEAKER_01:mean, look, you think of movies from this era and you think of... impeccable production value, high budget, big spectacle movies, but then instead we watched The Slumber Party Massacre.
SPEAKER_00:Well, it's a horror film, and it's a Roger Corman film, so we don't typically go too far into producing credits on these films, but this is very much in line with what was his aesthetic in terms of low budget, campy horrors.
SPEAKER_01:I remembered seeing it when... Like, at the end of our last episode, you pointed out that we had, in fact, watched it together.
SPEAKER_00:We had, in fact, watched
SPEAKER_01:it. I remembered it, and it is still just, like, shockingly low. Like, every part of this screams, like, we made this movie with$50 that we found on the couch.
SPEAKER_00:I'm not saying it's... My favorite horror film, but I do think it's a really fun time. And there's a lot of really notable things about it, to be quite honest.
SPEAKER_01:They used a cherry picker to get the overhead shot in the basketball court because they could not afford
SPEAKER_00:real
SPEAKER_01:equipment.
SPEAKER_00:Somebody read the fun facts. So let's get started. So you mentioned 1982. I thought it was interesting because I think when... we first put this on, you're like, oh, it kind of gives me a 70s vibe. I mean, not 70s, but early 80s often does look a little bit 70s-ish.
SPEAKER_01:Like the intro and the title, the opening credits and stuff.
SPEAKER_00:The other thing that I thought was really funny, I mean, sorry, we'll dive into the writers in just a second, is as we were still watching the opening credits go across the screen, you're like, I think this might be the earliest I've ever seen boobs in a movie.
SPEAKER_01:I can't remember how many times you get like nudity like that while the opening credits are still running
SPEAKER_00:this is probably the heaviest nudity film we've done so far it
SPEAKER_01:it's the porkies of horror movies as far as like the ones that we've seen it was it was kind of wild and and
SPEAKER_00:we'll talk a little bit about why that was so but let's start with the writers so the As far as like if you're just watching the movie, there's only one credited writer, Rita Mae Brown. This is her first writing credit. And what I absolutely love about the story behind the script is that she wrote it to be a parody. Oh, really? Of slasher films, even at this early time in their like life cycle.
SPEAKER_01:Okay.
SPEAKER_00:But... When the producers read it, they like took it kind of more so at face value. So that's why like there's kind of this like weird unintentional humor at times in the film because they didn't realize it was a parody. They just thought that this was like a slasher screenplay.
SPEAKER_01:Well, I picked up what she was putting down and I chose to interpret it as a parody because I really like– It's a much better experience if you look at it that way.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Look, that's the kind of horror I enjoy. I mean, we talked about it a lot, but I think we did just in fact talk about it in the very last episode when we were referencing the types of horror films we enjoy and how at least you and I are in agreement that films like Hereditary aren't exactly... That is never going to be a film I go back to.
SPEAKER_01:No. I don't ever need to see that again. I appreciate that it was a very well-made movie.
UNKNOWN:Sure.
SPEAKER_01:It did what it was trying to do. Maybe it did it so well that that's why I don't want
SPEAKER_00:to watch it again. But then what's funny is you would say that The Exorcist is much more aligned tonally with Hereditary, and I love The Exorcist.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Yeah, no, you're right.
SPEAKER_00:So it's totally subjective on what resonates with you, but generally speaking, I love camp. I love some humor. this is right up my alley in terms of horror films that I enjoy. I
SPEAKER_01:mean, even in that intro line, what's the worst that can happen? They'll kick the, they'll be the shit out
SPEAKER_00:of us. It's hilarious. Yeah. I love that. And that also is a little tiny bit indicative of some of the like more subtle feminist, uh, vibes that come through in the film. It's there, there's a lot of like really interesting stuff. Now, I don't know to what degree that Rita Mae Brown was responsible for some of it like for instance there's like this like weird through line in the film of the girls talking about a baseball game from last night
SPEAKER_01:yeah
SPEAKER_00:and like things like that were like they like kept forgetting some I don't even know what it was but like you know they even call their coach to ask like hey did you watch the baseball game like there's just these really interesting things that are part of this film which Yeah. A little bit.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:that perspective of the way that like women would be in sports and like the physicality of it. Was it a
SPEAKER_01:practice or like an official game?
SPEAKER_00:I have no idea. No, it had to be a practice because they're all just students there. It's not like another school.
SPEAKER_01:But then the game ends or the practice ends and the coach is like, all right, that's a wrap. Remember, we have baseball in two weeks.
SPEAKER_00:I love it. So, okay. So Rita Mae Brown, as far as credits for her, not a ton, but... And actually not a lot of horror either. I mean, she did write this as a parody, so I don't know if really horror was like her thing. She just, you know, was interested in this story. But some of her other credits include the TV miniseries, The Long Hot Summer. So this is an uncredited credit, but it's like the only thing that I had that really was like more horror-esque tales from the script.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_00:And then the TV movie, The Woman Who Loved Elvis.
SPEAKER_01:Okay.
SPEAKER_00:And this one's interesting because it kind of strikes me as a... documentary but she has a writing credit for mary pickford colon a life on film
SPEAKER_01:cool
SPEAKER_00:so moving on to wait
SPEAKER_01:hold on i'm sorry i'm sorry are you not going to give her credit for her uh most famous tv movie i don't think it was her most famous tv but it has the best title of any of her tv movies
SPEAKER_00:well do tell
SPEAKER_01:murder she purred a mrs murphy mystery
SPEAKER_00:well that is a fun one so I will typically include anybody who's like uncredited for like the categories that we cover, but I may not do a deep dive. I'm going to do a little bit of a deep dive here because this is.
SPEAKER_01:Why is that? I think this person. Oh,
SPEAKER_00:okay. It's Amy Holden Jones, who also was the director of this film. So super cool. We have a chick leading this horror film. And actually one of the most interesting things, not only about this film, but this horror franchise is that every single film in It has been directed by a woman. I think that is something that no other horror franchise can say.
SPEAKER_01:That's wild. I'm not certain. She kind of took some shit for the amount of nudity.
SPEAKER_00:Yes.
SPEAKER_01:And she's like, hey, it's a job. That's what they wanted,
SPEAKER_00:so that's what I did. This is as good a place to talk about that. So, like I've mentioned... This was produced by Roger Corman, and he was known for kind of– I mean, look, he was amazing. He gave so many people their starts in cinema, not just like horror, but like he gave his start– I think like Ron Howard worked under him when he was trying to transition out of being an actor, James Cameron, just a ton of people he took under his wing and kind of showed them the ropes. But– you know, the type of movies that he put out to the point you made just a couple minutes ago, low budget. And usually, you know, you got to have some TNA in it. So
SPEAKER_01:I think this was around 200,000 to make and brought in a little over 3 million.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. And so when Holden Jones, I mean, at the time, I think she was just going by Amy Jones. When she came on board, Corman was basically like, you have to get in this nudity. So in the
SPEAKER_01:opening credits.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. And actually, that's kind of what I read that was her... her, like, way of, you know... addressing his directive is like let's just get this out of the way there's a couple other times throughout the film where you do see like there is like a very notable close-up of a boob the
SPEAKER_01:shower scene is kind of wild because at one point the camera just slowly pans up and down and perhaps the creepiest way
SPEAKER_00:very voyeuristic yes
SPEAKER_01:but then I also read that some of the other actors in that scene just like taped over their nipples and that's why in the scene for like most of the women in the shower you're just seeing them from the back
SPEAKER_00:yeah i think there was like as there would be a wide variety of like how the women in that scene felt about being in that scene
SPEAKER_03:yeah
SPEAKER_00:some didn't care i think there was even one person whose friend was like on set was like oh i'll just join you guys like your friend for moral support decided to do it too
SPEAKER_01:okay
SPEAKER_00:um and then yeah understandably a couple women were like ah this isn't my fave i mean you brought
SPEAKER_01:up a uh an interesting point with with respect to that scene which is that these are all all ostensibly high school girls yeah
SPEAKER_00:yeah not my favorite that like i presume i didn't do a hard fact check how old each of the actresses were i presume they were all over 18 i mean look we just
SPEAKER_01:we just watched this on amazon prime we didn't have to go to the dark web
SPEAKER_00:to catch it so i assume that that's the icky thing about it is that really clear like even in films like friday 13th there's a little bit of ambiguity about whether or not they're supposed to be teenagers or a little bit older that is far less nudity generally speaking but um Yes. Well, the third one has a ton in it.
SPEAKER_01:Jason Voorhees would lose his mind in this movie.
SPEAKER_00:See, that would be so fun. I'm sure there is something out there because nothing under the sun hasn't been done yet. But to have the antagonist of this film in some kind of parody with Jason Voorhees, I think the figures like Jason Voorhees and Michael Myers would be like, oh, you're such a rookie. I think they would look down their noses at him. But in any case, we'll get to him. So, so yeah, the nudity was something that was like a requisite for Holden Jones to stay on this film. So she's like, fine, you know, and that's, that's why it has like, it's kind of all over the place in a way, but it still works for the film. Like there are sections, like you said, the shower scenes, which, okay, look, I didn't go to every high school in America, but I was a high school girl at one time. That does not happen in a high school locker room. No, as far as I know. These leisurely shower scenes with conversation. They did
SPEAKER_01:have semi-private showers.
SPEAKER_00:Sure, sure, yeah. But yeah, no. Nope. And also, we'll get to the same thing when they're actually at the slumber party and they're all just changing.
SPEAKER_01:That was maybe the most ridiculous, where it's just like...
SPEAKER_00:The conversation was so inane. I was just like, okay, there was... It
SPEAKER_01:was the lamest slumber party maybe ever.
SPEAKER_00:So... Amy Holden Jones. We'll get to her directing credits in just a second. But quite a few writing credits. Technically speaking, I already mentioned she's uncredited for this film. But because she was also the director, I do feel like she had a lot of input on some of the elements of the film. So among her, strictly speaking, writing credits, we have Love Letters, Made to Order. Oh
SPEAKER_01:yeah, with Ally Sheedy. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And we brought her up not too long ago because earlier this season, We covered Mystic Pizza. Go check that one out. Now, she has another franchise. No, I don't think she stuck with this one after the first film, but she does have a very notable franchise that she's been part of for forever, which probably has given her a nice little payday.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, what's that?
SPEAKER_00:Not in the horror genre at all.
SPEAKER_01:I'm sure it's a franchise known for its gratuitous nudity scenes, right?
SPEAKER_00:Beethoven.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, maybe not.
UNKNOWN:Okay.
SPEAKER_00:Unless... Naked dog? I don't know. All dogs are naked. But unless the people who... Look, sometimes dogs need... Like, I know chihuahuas actually get cold and need the cute little sweaters on them.
SPEAKER_01:Are we talking about canine nudity?
SPEAKER_00:Generally speaking, you don't need to dress your dogs. No. If it's just normal weather. Okay, so Beethoven, yes. They already have
SPEAKER_01:a coat.
SPEAKER_00:They already have a coat, yes. So Beethoven, she has credits. Now... whether she was just grandfathered in because she conceptualized you know the original film and the characters a lot of characters in it but she has credits for the first second third fourth fifth and they're all just called that like beethoven two three four five but then there's also like christmas adventure treasure i mean it's really had legs uh so she is part of that what
SPEAKER_01:were you making a pun with the legs
SPEAKER_00:No, but I guess it works.
SPEAKER_01:Dogs have, I don't know, dogs have legs. Humans have legs too. Oh, shit. You're
SPEAKER_00:right. Pretty much. Well, no. That is a wild inaccuracy to say all animals have legs. But a lot of them do. Okay, so moving on. I think I have all films for her. In Decent Proposal, I mean, she swings all over the place as her genre goes.
SPEAKER_01:I'm not going to do this every time, I promise. But there is one more that she had a screenplay credit as Amy Jones. It's a movie that we both really enjoy.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I'm not done with her credits yet. Oh,
SPEAKER_01:my God. That was just Beethoven?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Okay.
SPEAKER_00:That was just Beethoven. But she did Indecent Proposal, The Getaway, The Rich Man's Wife, To Your Point, The Relic, yes. And then, actually, I do have a TV series. I think, did it get canceled? The Resident, right? I don't know if that's still ongoing, but she created that show.
SPEAKER_01:I still remember the first time I saw a poster for that show, and I'm like, what is this? I think there's so many medical shows. It's gone on for years, so yeah. It's
SPEAKER_00:kind of wild how many medical shows there are.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:I didn't think it was, I mean, yeah, for a time I watched ER, but I've never watched Grey's Anatomy. It's not really my thing. But anyway, keeps people employed. So I'm all for it. Yeah. Okay. So moving on to director Amy Holden Jones. And this was her first directing credit. So what is interesting is that of the directing opportunities that she's been given, in large part, it's based off of the scripts that she had written.
SPEAKER_01:Okay.
SPEAKER_00:So the notable directing credits that I have for her are all films that she had... Okay, moving on to cinematography. This guy, very busy 80s, Stephen L. Posey. Although, you know, for as busy as he was during the decade of films that we cover, we haven't talked about him yet. But very possibly we could again in the future. I think
SPEAKER_01:we will.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, there's like one film in particular that I think will probably cover him for. Now, a lot of the titles I'm not strictly familiar with. I think that he did have a nice little niche in horror because at least according to the titles, that's what they sound like. But some of his credits include Delusion, Bloody Birthday. Family comedy. Blood song. What did you say?
SPEAKER_01:Oh, family comedy. The great family
SPEAKER_00:comedy, Bloody Birthday. Oh, the family comedy, Bloody Birthday. Blood song, Savage Streets, Hell Hole. Hell
SPEAKER_01:Hole.
SPEAKER_00:So the one that we possibly will cover is Friday the 13th, colon, A New Beginning. Okay. Yeah, we might. We might only because I think a lot of people hate that one because it's not Jason Voorhees at all. It's the ambulance driver. Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:So
SPEAKER_00:we'll see. Three for the Road, which that one would be interesting because that, you know, not too long ago we covered Lucas and that also has Cary Green and Charlie Sheen in it. And I think actually Alan Ruck as well from Ferris, Ferris Bueller. Oh, okay. Yeah, I think so. And he also has done several TV movies. We're going to fly through a lot of these people. This is, I've said this before, a lot of the times with horror, there's always breakouts, but a lot of people...
SPEAKER_01:There are a few other similar things.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, not really extensive filmographies. So music, case in point, Ralph Jones, he happens to be the brother of Amy Holden Jones. Okay. He only has two composing credits. This is one of them. The other one is another one of the films that she wrote and directed, Love Letters.
SPEAKER_01:The music in this movie was very interesting because it's like... gothic horror organ play like
SPEAKER_00:yeah you had a lot to say about the music it
SPEAKER_01:was yeah it was interesting i mean it didn't really it didn't match like the tone of the movie really but if you look at it as almost like a parody then it does because it's like so it's kind of like out there for
SPEAKER_00:it feels like a little disconnected it feels a little melodramatic but then again we're talking about a guy with a drill who's like
SPEAKER_01:yeah
SPEAKER_00:systematically murdering people so film editing uh So the credited editor, this is his only editing credit.
SPEAKER_01:Well.
SPEAKER_00:Sean Foley. That's it. There's nothing else to talk about with him. However, there is an uncredited editor. So because poor Sean, we don't have much else to say about him. Sean, we hardly knew ye. I'm going to talk about the uncredited editor, Wendy Green Brickmont, who is still going strong. So she has a very extensive, very, like, some really... impressive credits to her name so i don't know what the relationship was there how she got pulled in i don't know if sean was over his head with
SPEAKER_01:trying to edit this film did wendy do all the work here because when i
SPEAKER_00:look at her filmography i'm like what's going on here yes exactly i don't know what the situation was but i mean this is a woman who cut annie hall
SPEAKER_01:yeah this is an incredibly impressive filmography
SPEAKER_00:yes and she must have had some kind of like uh professional relationship with Holden Jones because then she also cut Love Letters.
SPEAKER_01:I feel like I'm making this up completely, this storyline, but it feels like This is the guy that they got and they brought her in to kind of like help out. Mentor a little
SPEAKER_00:bit. Look, I'm making stuff up too. But like I'm going to say she maybe did the heavy lifting here. But, you know, either she's like, no, it's fine. You can give him the credit. I don't know what it was. But she also cut Clan of the Cave Bear. Some of these, like she probably will come up again because there are some 80s films that we could certainly do in the future. Yeah. She cut License to Drive, Kid and Garden Cop. Oh, my gosh. She did My Girl. Oh, that's a real emotional roller coaster. My Girl 2, as well as Calendar Girl. Lots of girls. Junior, I don't know if she struck up a professional collaboration friendship thing with Schwarzenegger, but I thought it was interesting that she did Kindergarten Cop and Junior. Evolution, the sweetest thing. She did Mean Girls.
SPEAKER_01:The 2004? Yes. The original? Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Cool. Herbie. So another thing too, I'm like, oh, both of those are, what's her face? Herbie Fully Loaded. Oh,
SPEAKER_01:like the remade Herbie
SPEAKER_00:movies? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So she did that, Diary of a Wimpy Kid. And then I just like this title, The People We Hate at the Wedding. Nice.
SPEAKER_01:Who are those people?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Who do we hate at the wedding? Who do we hate at the wedding? All right. We are at the stars of the film. All right. So, okay. Pretty big ensemble cast, actually. Okay. So I'll try to differentiate the different women, because I think it would be hard maybe for people who don't know the film that well to keep them separate, but... We're going to start with Trish. So Trish is the one who's hosting the slumber party.
SPEAKER_01:The movie begins with her.
SPEAKER_00:The movie begins with her. It is her boobs that we see first. Indeed. So she, it's a really, again, there are just like really interesting things in this film where like it didn't even have to be part of the movie, but it was like where, I don't think it was like her 18th birthday, but all of a sudden she wakes up one morning and decides to throw away all of her toys.
SPEAKER_01:She did do that. Yeah. Yeah. So
SPEAKER_00:she just all of a sudden is like, I'm a woman now, and gets rid of her Barbie and all that stuff. So the actress, Michelle Michaels, she only has nine total acting credits. It's also really interesting that her name is Michelle Michaels, because I'm pretty sure Michelle is the female version of Michael.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, that's a good point.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Interesting.
SPEAKER_00:So among her credits, I have all... A horror film. Well, maybe they're not all horror films. There's some
SPEAKER_01:action, kind
SPEAKER_00:of. Yeah. New Year's Evil.
SPEAKER_01:Love it.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, right? Demon Rage.
SPEAKER_01:Probably horror.
SPEAKER_00:Probably horror, as is... Oh, no. This one isn't. This is... What's his face, right? Death Wish for the Crackdown.
SPEAKER_01:Charles Bronson.
SPEAKER_00:There you go. Yeah. And the last one I have for her, Hero and the Terror. Okay.
SPEAKER_01:So... That was still in the 80s. Yes. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. All right. Moving on to Robin Stile is the way I'm going to say her name. So she's Valerie. Valerie is the neighbor. She's the one- Oh,
SPEAKER_01:the new kid.
SPEAKER_00:Yes. She's the one that seems new to the school. She's transferred in. Trish actually- wants to be friends with her like she invites her over Valerie declines because of all the friends that do come over they all seem like they'd be more than happy to have Valerie there but the one fucking bitch Diane
SPEAKER_01:yeah Diane don't hog the ball
SPEAKER_00:Diane yeah it's kind of hilarious in a way actually she has a lot of personality of all the women in the film that
SPEAKER_01:was like the start of the basketball game right the coach saying
SPEAKER_00:like don't hog the ball Diane and then she did
SPEAKER_01:yeah of course Diane She wouldn't pass it.
SPEAKER_00:She wouldn't pass it.
SPEAKER_01:God damn it, Diane.
SPEAKER_00:So Diane, for whatever reason, had a chip on her shoulder about Valerie. She
SPEAKER_01:didn't want to deal with like a new person. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:But Trish, I think, called it because she's like, oh, you hate her because she's beautiful or, you know, you hate her because she's good at basketball. So Valerie. So I'm sorry to say this, but in part, I don't know if her acting career would have gone on longer. She took her own life when she was still fairly young. So she has 10 total acting credits. I have all films for her for what I listed. Some of those credits include I'm Going to Be Famous.
SPEAKER_03:Okay.
SPEAKER_00:This one's interesting. This one comes back around for another actress. Sorority Babes in the Slime Ball Bowlerama. I'm sorry, what? That's the name of the film. I don't know if that's a Corman film, but it sounds like it could be.
SPEAKER_01:It does, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Vampire Nights, like K-N-I-G-H. Ah, got it. And then American Ninja 4, colon, The Annihilation. Wow. Yeah. So some fun titles there. Okay, so like I said, we're in large part going to be flying through this cast. The next person we have is Debra DeLizo. So she plays Kim. Kim is the one with the long, blonde, straight hair. She seems to kind of be leaving that conversation about that baseball game that was on the night before.
SPEAKER_01:That's right,
SPEAKER_00:yeah. And also, okay, so if you're still like, I don't know who that is still, she's the one that when Valerie and her sister... come over, I think, to Trish's house. Her sister opens the fridge and Kim, unfortunately, has been stuffed inside the fridge.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:That's Kim.
SPEAKER_01:Okay.
SPEAKER_00:Okay. She actually makes it... She's, like, second to the end with Trish as far as people who are at... the slumber party.
SPEAKER_01:She is killed, I think, when Trish and her are in her bedroom. Trish
SPEAKER_00:kind of ditches her a little
SPEAKER_01:bit. Because the driller guy, killer
SPEAKER_00:dude. He's preoccupied with Kim and Trish uses that as an opportunity to leave. She
SPEAKER_01:just bolts. She
SPEAKER_00:kind of bolts.
SPEAKER_01:But this movie definitely does that thing for the kill scenes where it like... You get a shot of the victim and they're just completely frozen. Yes. And then you get a shot of the killer and they're like, I'm going to fucking kill you. Then it goes back to the victim, still not moving. And it happened with a few of them. Yes. And I remember that with her. She's just like standing there suddenly, knife in the gut.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. I felt... There's only one kill that seems completely... Like she couldn't have probably done anything about it. And I'll get to her in a second. But that actually... You brought up a good opportunity to talk about the way that the killer is depicted in this film to, you know, certainly don't have exhaustive knowledge of the horror genre. But often the killer is like a little bit more ambiguous.
SPEAKER_01:You know, you know. exactly who it is you see his face
SPEAKER_00:from like the opening credits you see a newspaper flung on a lawn
SPEAKER_01:yeah
SPEAKER_00:that says serial killer russ thorne escaped yeah so you like know exactly who it is right away i
SPEAKER_01:think he wears a jumper that says russ thorne
SPEAKER_00:and they highlight him so many times he is so present
SPEAKER_01:you see him peeking out of bushes
SPEAKER_00:you see him all the time like he is everywhere in this movie which is so unusual you see him you get like so many views of you know it's like not a subtle innuendo at all but like his drill yeah like you you see everything like it is so funny to me how how present he is in this film so like even in like the friday the 14th or friday the
SPEAKER_01:14th
SPEAKER_00:It's because I just saw a thing for the film Saturday the 14th. Yeah, today is Saturday the
SPEAKER_01:14th, in fact. The day
SPEAKER_00:of our recording. It is. It is Saturday the 14th. Yeah, Saturday the 14th. But, you know, even in like Jason Voorhees, like obviously you see like the mask is iconic. So like you know what Jason Voorhees looks like. But they kind of minimize the amount of screen time he has still. Like you're not just like hanging out with Jason while he's like, I don't know. And
SPEAKER_01:you don't often see him unmasked. There is like... There are a couple scenes in the entire Halloween franchise where you get a quick glimpse without the mask.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I think Ross is wearing a Canadian tuxedo. He has a jean jacket and jeans. It's a really interesting way of depicting the antagonist in this film.
SPEAKER_01:They didn't want you to waste any time wondering, like, I wonder who the killer
SPEAKER_00:is. Yeah,
SPEAKER_01:exactly. It's fucking Russ Thorne.
SPEAKER_00:So in any case, we do have to get back to Kim. Yeah. So some of her credits include, I have all, well, I don't have all films. All feature films. Iced Dr. Caligari, which I thought was interesting. Trickster, Initiation, and then she's been part of several short films. Okay. Okay, next, moving on to the actress Andre. I'm going to say, is it, you think it's Anor?
UNKNOWN:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, let's go with that. I don't know.
SPEAKER_00:So she plays Jackie. Jackie doesn't get a lot to do in the film. So she's the other friend of Trish's. Like when Trish has invited her friends over, there's three friends. It's Kim, who we just talked about. Diane, who we haven't gotten to the actress yet, but she's the one who's like... Not a fan of Valerie's. Ball hog. And ball hog. And then there's Jackie. Jackie, in a lot of ways, seems like the most chill. She's kind of wearing a nightie the entire time she's at Trisha's place.
SPEAKER_01:Does she also get naked and change into another nightie?
SPEAKER_00:You know what? No, I think she comes over to Trisha's. She initially is wearing basically, I think, a tank top and shorts.
SPEAKER_03:Okay.
SPEAKER_00:But she changes into this nightie. I don't think... She turns away from the camera. So you see her in her like underwear. Okay. But I don't think you ever like see her.
SPEAKER_01:They just kind of randomly at one point in the evening are like...
SPEAKER_00:They all of a sudden just like change. We're
SPEAKER_01:all changing.
SPEAKER_00:We're all changing. So that's Jackie. But she also doesn't have a ton of acting credits. The actress who plays her, she has three total acting credits. So this is one of them. Okay. And then the other two, there's a... I don't know what this would mean. I rarely see this... category in imdb tv short so i'm not quite sure what that would work out to being but it was a project called strange reality and then a video called hopelessly i was probably like direct video movie hopelessly awkward oh that sounds like it'd be
SPEAKER_01:fun
SPEAKER_00:yeah what i got for her okay okay so now we are going to move on to diane played by gina smica smica Hunter.
SPEAKER_01:Okay. Gina Hunter it is.
SPEAKER_00:Yes. And I think she might have gone by a different name when she was actually in the film. It might have been like Gina Marie or something.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. There's a few. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:They've changed their names since. And so yeah. Diane is a real trip. She's not like my favorite character but in a way she is because she has so much personality. They gave her a lot
SPEAKER_01:to work with. You don't like her character but I respect the performance.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Exactly. Like you know she comes in a little hot you know with Yeah. For sure. Yeah. I thought it was really interesting because, again, pointing to some of the elements of this film where you're actually seeing very strong women. She's walking down the street. First of all, the handheld camera is atrocious.
SPEAKER_01:It's real bad.
SPEAKER_00:It's real bad. It's like...
SPEAKER_01:What was that? Was that like... Monster movie based in New York. Cloverfield.
SPEAKER_00:Cloverfield. It made Cloverfield look
SPEAKER_01:like a steady, very steady
SPEAKER_00:camera. Steady cam. I understand that they were trying to do POV, but they went way overboard.
SPEAKER_01:It was the POV of someone having a seizure while holding the camera.
SPEAKER_00:So, of course, it's like the one moment where you're like, oh, is the killer about to come across her? You see a hand, I think, go on her shoulder. She flips the guy over. So, like, they portray her initially as this very capable woman who can, like, take care of herself. It ended up being her boyfriend or whoever she's...
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, flipped over whatever giant moose of a dude was her
SPEAKER_00:boyfriend. So, but then to your point, when she gets killed, she's in the garage. And yeah, she kind of does that thing where she eventually is just cowering in a corner. And it's probably one of the more iconic screenshots from the film because it's very... very indicative of like the sexual undertones. Is that like from the perspective,
SPEAKER_01:like kind of like below and you're seeing like from between his legs, you see the drill and then you see her in the, yeah,
SPEAKER_00:that's it. That's, that's the shot.
SPEAKER_01:So that's probably what they said. That's the shot.
SPEAKER_00:That's the shot. So Diane, uh, I have 11 total acting credits for this actress.
UNKNOWN:Um,
SPEAKER_00:Let's see. What do I have here? Oh, one of them is really interesting. So did
SPEAKER_01:you know- One of them is very interesting. I'll let you talk about it. I know we're talking about the same thing. You think so? Yeah, I do. I'm positive.
SPEAKER_00:All right. I'm excited. Sometimes that happens with us. Yeah. Okay. So one, I did not know that there was a TV series called The Oregon Trail.
SPEAKER_01:No, I assumed that someone dies of dysentery on that one.
SPEAKER_00:So she was in that.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Okay. Is this what you're talking about? The TV series Friends?
SPEAKER_01:Uh-huh. Yes. What the fuck?
SPEAKER_00:This is so fascinating to me because, okay, so this is a TV series, not Friends as we know Friends. Of
SPEAKER_01:course not. So it's probably a totally different character name, right?
SPEAKER_00:But that's just it. Yes. I put down that note for that same reason. So she was on a TV series called Friends from 1979 and her character name was Phoebe. What
SPEAKER_01:the hell? What? That's crazy.
SPEAKER_00:Crazy, right? That's so funny. We did not talk about this before this recording. No. But you caught the same thing I did.
SPEAKER_01:As soon as I saw that, I'm like, what the hell? That's crazy.
SPEAKER_00:I thought that was so nuts, so I had to include that. She also was on the TV series The Bad News Bears. And then the film The Sword and the Sorcerer. It's not The Sword and the Stone. Is that the name of the film?
SPEAKER_01:Sword and the Stone versus The Sword and the Sorcerer. It's still probably about Merlin either way. But just for a quick... Fun fact about the 1979 Friends TV series, it is a show about three 11-year-olds.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, she was really young.
SPEAKER_01:Coming of age in Southern California.
SPEAKER_00:Okay, so then... But it's
SPEAKER_01:still interesting that for a show, a series of any kind that was called Friends that had a character named Phoebe, that's all kind of a wild set of coincidences.
SPEAKER_00:Yes, very much so. I agree with you. So she must have... Because look, if that was 79, this film's 82. She certainly doesn't look like a teenager, so they must have even cast her older for that show, right? Like, if they're supposed to be 11, she's probably, what, 16, 17, if not older? Which is kind of crazy. Let's see. What was her name again? Phoebe. But maybe Phoebe wasn't one of the girls. Maybe Phoebe was, like, an older sister or something. I don't know the show at all, so I have no idea. Now I'm doing a
SPEAKER_01:deep dive into this 1979.
SPEAKER_00:Well, I'm going to keep going.
SPEAKER_01:Please.
SPEAKER_00:So the next credit I have, which she is one of my favorite characters in the film because she's just so spunky. Courtney, Valerie's little sister. Oh,
SPEAKER_01:yeah.
SPEAKER_00:She's kind of hilarious. I don't know what the age difference is supposed to be between them because on the one hand...
SPEAKER_01:It's very difficult to tell.
SPEAKER_00:It's very difficult to tell because Valerie definitely treats her as like a little kid. She's almost like babysitting her. But then Courtney is like reading Playgirl. And she's like... The
SPEAKER_01:Stallone issue,
SPEAKER_00:I believe. The Stallone issue. And she's like on the phone with her friend talking about making out with this guy. So I'm... fully confused about how old she's supposed to be but then she's also like and she's kind of a brat sometimes to valerie but then she also can be really sweet like at one point valerie they were just like She was doing, like, Courtney's hair and makeup. Yeah. And then she was like, oh, do you want to do this hairstyle or whatever? And then Courtney's like, just make me look like you, which I was like, oh, that is so sweet. So such an interesting character. This is her only acting credit.
SPEAKER_01:Well.
SPEAKER_00:The actress is Jennifer Myers, and that is it.
SPEAKER_01:That's
SPEAKER_00:it. And she was really good.
SPEAKER_01:She honestly was. It was, I mean, none of the performances in this movie are, like... I don't know. Even Kevin Bacon in Friday the 13th is like, it's not like Kevin Bacon that you see in movies now, you know? So, so I don't know. Like they didn't have a ton to work with, but yeah, her character stood out.
SPEAKER_00:In this total, you know, like you said, low budget, ridiculous in some ways, slasher movie with a ton of TNA.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:There's this totally separate storyline of these two sisters. Yeah. And actually it's quite, compelling in the film. I love that there's this... Again, they didn't really have to have that. It could have been Valerie Home Alone. She didn't have to have a sister at all.
SPEAKER_01:But her and her sister is the closest thing we get to any real... interactions with people because the interactions between the characters in the actual slumber party across the street like you said are just all like nonsense they're just like doing things until the next kill happens
SPEAKER_00:I begin to appreciate the dynamic between the friends actually once they become aware that there's a serial killer out there and I'll get to that in a second but yeah no I agree with you fully like the interactions between Valerie and Courtney are like the kind of the most meaningful in the whole film so alright movie on to coach I guess her name is coach Jana this was her first acting credit
SPEAKER_01:believe it or not
SPEAKER_00:so played by I believe it Pamela Weidlands is the way I'm going to say her name and she also very much still going strong
SPEAKER_01:that's awesome
SPEAKER_00:yeah so she does have one of the more extensive filmographies of the people that we're covering
SPEAKER_01:okay
SPEAKER_00:and some of her credits include so she was on the TV series Little House on the Prairie There also were, like, Little House TV movies. She was in three of those. They
SPEAKER_01:have very dramatic titles. Little House, Look Back to Yesterday. Little House, The Last Farewell.
SPEAKER_00:Those are some good titles. That's all
SPEAKER_01:I have. Very dramatic. I mean, there's also Little House, Bless All the Dear Children.
SPEAKER_00:Wow! Yeah, those are all very dramatic. She also was on the soap Days of Our Lives. She, I guess there was, do I remember this? TV series Jack and Bobby? I don't remember that. I'm trying to think if that's one with, what's his name? Greg. That actor from As Good As It Gets.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, Kinnear?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, Greg Kinnear. I think that might have been the series. The film, the social... Some of these, she doesn't necessarily have huge roles, but she was in The Social Network, A Friend's Obsession, the TV series Nancy Drew, the film Weekend with Molly, and just been, so far over the course of her career, a ton of TV work.
SPEAKER_01:That's awesome.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, good. Look, I'm glad because what a disparity between some of the actors who... Or just in this, just in this slumber party massacre in one case. And so to see someone kind of...
SPEAKER_00:Be able to keep going. I mean, personally, I think, look, this is all personal conjecture. I can't really back this up at all. But generally speaking, horror films are a little bit cheaper to make. You can do a little bit of run-and-gun, guerrilla-style filmmaking with them.
SPEAKER_03:And
SPEAKER_00:a lot of times, people who... work in this genre pulling their friends or people who maybe aren't necessarily looking to have a career as an actor but they like do it as a favor or whatever and so or they just aren't like their primary interest maybe isn't even acting maybe they want to do something else but they like do it as a favor you know because they need they need somebody to play this role
SPEAKER_01:hey you're doing a shower scene thing sure count me
SPEAKER_00:in yeah yeah I mean that seems like a little bit of an outlier like that story
SPEAKER_01:but what day is it sure I'm free let's go
SPEAKER_00:yeah but and I think that that's maybe sometimes why people who we talk about in these horror films don't have extensive filmography that's fair because it wasn't really something they wanted to do for real for realsies that makes sense in the first place but I don't know moving on to okay so now Do we have the dudes? Here's what I love, absolutely love about this film, is that, let's see, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, the first seven credits that I have, all women.
SPEAKER_01:That's great.
SPEAKER_00:Love it. So I do still have four more people to go. Three of the four are dudes. The first is, of course, the guy that we have been talking about, Russ Thorne. Russ
SPEAKER_01:Thorne.
SPEAKER_00:This was his first acting credit, so played by Michael Villella.
SPEAKER_01:Okay.
SPEAKER_00:And did not have like a super long acting career, nine total acting credits. He also, though, I mean, he must have gotten along well with Amy Holden Jones because he ended up being in Love Letters, another one of her projects. That's right, yeah. He was in the TV movie Gotham, which I'm guessing has a Batman angle. And then... Probably.
SPEAKER_01:The
SPEAKER_00:film, I like vaguely remember this being a big deal because I think it's only kind of soft core, what have you, Wild Orchid.
SPEAKER_01:I'm not familiar with that movie.
SPEAKER_00:And then Wild Orchid 2, two
SPEAKER_01:shades of blue. Twice the number of shades of blue.
SPEAKER_00:So that's it. That's kind of the most notable work.
SPEAKER_01:Fun fact, he cannot swim. Or at least he couldn't.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, so was he legit stressed when the pool scene?
SPEAKER_01:Not having a good time.
SPEAKER_00:Interesting. Yeah, because he had
SPEAKER_01:to like float face down in the pool for like multiple times.
SPEAKER_00:So what I also heard, which this happens a lot. This is a very common tactic that actors use. Like if they're supposed to be kind of an antagonist or antagonistic towards a certain person in a film, they will intentionally keep their distance from that person and not be buddy-buddy. with them off camera to kind of preserve that that like vibe okay and so what i read is that he intentionally kind of like isolated himself from the rest of the cast so that there wasn't a familiarity there i
SPEAKER_01:thought you're gonna tell me that he would sneak up on some of the women with the drill and just go
SPEAKER_00:oh that's terrible i hope that was not the case i will say this So as hilarious as it seems that like he is on full display throughout so much of the film and there's like no, no, like kind of mystery around the killer at all.
SPEAKER_01:There's none.
SPEAKER_00:That end scene when he's talking to Trish. And I think at that point, the only two people will like Courtney's obviously still alive, but it's Trish and Valerie and Trish is on the ground. She's basically begging for her life. And yeah, the way he talks to her and says like, I love you. And then when he's like, you love it. That
SPEAKER_01:was crazy. That was cold as shit. Just the way that he was talking.
SPEAKER_00:That was actually legitimately terrifying.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:That's me. I agree. Was the, and it's, it pains me to say this the most grounded part of the film because there are unfortunately people out there like that who have this really twisted and sick way when they become fixated or obsessed with somebody
SPEAKER_01:yeah
SPEAKER_00:and that felt like the realest moment in the whole fucking movie
SPEAKER_01:yeah it did
SPEAKER_00:so
SPEAKER_01:completely agree it was he he did a great job of like delivering those kind of crazy lines with just this fucking dead look on his eye. Like it was, it was legit weird.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. That was really uncomfortable. So good job, Michael Valola.
SPEAKER_01:And then they killed him.
SPEAKER_00:And then thank God they killed him. I have to say the practical of his like cut off hand was kind of hilarious.
SPEAKER_01:The best part about it. The best part wasn't just that he got his hand cut off, but that he used the stump to like hit someone. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:I mean, one of the most like magnificent parts of that end sequence, the final fight between him and the two girls, three girls, if you count Courtney. I do. Is, you know, I think it's Valerie. So she has her like, not a machete, but not a straight sword. Like, maybe a sword? Is it more a sword than a machete?
SPEAKER_01:It was... It was probably more of a machete. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Just the symbolism of her cutting off his drill, the castration of the drill. That
SPEAKER_01:was a...
SPEAKER_00:Another really magnificent part of this movie.
SPEAKER_01:That... machete must have been, like, forged in the fires of Mount Doom to just cut through a goddamn giant drill bit like that.
SPEAKER_00:It was very impressive. What's the metal in Black Panther? Oh,
SPEAKER_01:is it adamantium or something?
UNKNOWN:Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:I was, like,
SPEAKER_01:made
SPEAKER_00:of that. When that happened, I'm like, whoa! Yeah, that is a finely made sword. So... So that was, that was an awesome too. You know, I really liked that.
SPEAKER_01:So I watched this, this before recording this, I watched, um, like I'd started and hadn't finished watching Furiosa.
SPEAKER_00:Yes.
SPEAKER_01:And of course that character loses her arm.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:So like within 24 hours, I saw two different scenes of, of that effect. I'm going to say Furiosa did a much better job.
SPEAKER_00:It was close.
SPEAKER_01:When I, when I saw it, I'm like, Oh wow. Yeah. That's,
SPEAKER_00:that looks more so what it would be like.
UNKNOWN:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:All right, moving on. So these are actually the two guys that were featured in the opening clip. Neil and Jeff. Neil and Jeff. I'm so sorry. I cannot differentiate between them.
SPEAKER_01:It's very difficult because when you go to IMDb, you see most likely you're going to see like a current photo. Yes. Right?
SPEAKER_00:Sometimes it's real hard to peg them.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I'm like,
SPEAKER_00:wait a second. With a 40-year difference.
SPEAKER_01:I'm like, I'm sorry, sir. Who, which, huh?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, it is tough. It is tough. Here's the thing about Neil and Jeff. They're good guys.
SPEAKER_01:They're not bad
SPEAKER_00:guys. They have the, you know, you mentioned it. They're like, oh, this feels like Animal House where they're sneaking in. So not cool.
SPEAKER_01:Animal House or Meatballs. Or Meatballs. I felt like, yeah, Meatballs when they were just like.
SPEAKER_00:Meatballs I don't think has. Oh, you know what? There is that one. The
SPEAKER_01:part when they're like kind of under. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. The guy with the glasses. Yes. Spaz. Yeah, Spaz. And then the guy who also is in My Bloody Valentine. Yeah. So that part's not cool. Yeah. not okay to, to do that. However, I love,
SPEAKER_01:I love that. We just talked about how they're good guys. And then they were like basically watching them naked.
SPEAKER_00:Not okay. Not okay. But you know, the clip that you pulled love that they're like, they could kick our asses, you know, like, or beat the shit out of us that I love that. They like,
SPEAKER_01:that was hilarious.
SPEAKER_00:Have that perspective of those women. And then here's what I do. Like, Once they all are like, oh, there's, like, a lunatic out there who's killing everybody, Jeff and Neil say, okay, we'll run out. Like, we'll be the ones who, like, basically, like, sacrifice ourselves because it probably will come to that.
SPEAKER_01:They, yeah, they take a, not a bullet, they take a drill bit. They try to help out. Yeah. Yeah, they try to take charge and do what they think is right.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, and actually, like, there's, you know, an exchange between the two of them where I don't know which one says it, but they're like... Either Jeff or
SPEAKER_01:Neil.
SPEAKER_00:They're like, you know, at least hopefully one of us will survive. Like, they're already assuming that one of them's going to probably die.
SPEAKER_03:Well...
SPEAKER_00:And I'm like, Jesus, for, like, this, like, low-budget slasher. That's quite a deep moment where they're like, okay, we offer up ourselves to protect these women. I thought that that... That was kind of an amazing...
SPEAKER_01:They're the real heroes
SPEAKER_00:in this movie. Yeah, exactly. So good job, guys. All right, so the first one I'm going to cover is Neil, Joseph Allen Johnson. He has a total of eight acting credits. So of the titles I pulled for him, Grad Night, Hollywood Hot Tubs. Okay. I just love this word, Berserker.
SPEAKER_01:Berserker.
SPEAKER_00:Iced and Little Big League. Now.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, that's just a video.
SPEAKER_00:Direct-to-video stuff.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Il Fantasma di Sodoma.
SPEAKER_00:Wow, good
SPEAKER_01:job.
SPEAKER_00:All right, so now moving on to the other gentleman, Jeff, David Milburn.
SPEAKER_03:So
SPEAKER_00:he has a more extensive, he's been working all these years. So I have mostly film, a little bit of television. So some of his credits include Sorceress, Blood Theater. This I thought was interesting because if I'm remembering correctly, it was actually a fair amount of episodes, but he was never credited for the voice working did on a TV show called Robotech
SPEAKER_01:oh okay yeah I know that I mean you do I know of it I didn't watch it all but yeah Robotech is like an old like I don't know if it's an anime but kind of felt like it was yeah yeah no that's a cool show
SPEAKER_00:okay yeah um so he was in that Bikini Summer blame it on the vodka I just think that's a fun title. Midnight Confessions. Cyberella colon Forbidden Passions.
SPEAKER_01:Okay.
SPEAKER_00:Fun.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:The night that never happened.
SPEAKER_01:It didn't.
SPEAKER_00:So he was in that. And then again, just like I was saying with the coach, some high profile projects, but I don't know if they necessarily had huge roles, but he was in the film Gods and Monsters.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, interesting. Okay.
SPEAKER_00:Nostradamus. Okay. A film that's called Texas Rangers. Hmm. I saw Mommy Kissing Santa Claus in her line of fire. Oh,
SPEAKER_01:okay.
SPEAKER_00:Which I thought was kind of an interesting title. Yeah, yeah. This has to be a play off the film Hush Hush, Sweet Charlotte. It's called Hush Up, Sweet Charlotte. I don't know why I'm having a hard time saying the word Charlotte.
UNKNOWN:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:I'm like really second guessing myself. But so he's in that. And then more recently, a TV series. He's done voice work for a show called Now What?
SPEAKER_01:OK, well done.
SPEAKER_00:And lastly, a film called Jacked.
SPEAKER_01:I mean, he's been in a ton of stuff. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Extensive filmography.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. And I'm trying to actually find if I'm correct. Yeah, he has. He was part of 82 episodes of Robotech. Uncredited. That's wild. Why would it be uncredited that many? Yeah. You know, look, it was a show from 85, so I'm guessing that at that time voice work wasn't really protected work in the same way as on-screen performance is my guess. I don't know. All right, so this is our last credit. Like I said, this has been a huge ensemble cast. And... Saving the person with the most extensive filmography for last. So, this is Linda. Linda, she's not technically speaking the first person to get killed. The first person to get killed is that utility worker?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, the maintenance person.
SPEAKER_00:Maintenance person. So, not her, but she's the first student. She... walked out with Trish and the rest of them and then was like, oh, I forgot a book.
SPEAKER_01:I forgot something in the locker.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. So she goes back and she at this moment has like, she is going strong. She has over 250 credits.
SPEAKER_01:Wow.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Okay. She's had an extensive career. The actress's name is Brinka Stevens. Right. And she is very much known as like a scream queen. She has worked, like not exclusively, but she has worked extensively in the horror genre
SPEAKER_01:i mean some of these titles are amazing
SPEAKER_00:yeah so i mean but it's actually funny because like the first credit i have for her she's uncredited but she's one of the girlfriends and this is spinal tap oh really really fun yeah i'm gonna guess if we had to if we go back to that movie like when they're in their bus i bet she's in in that scene okay i have a feeling so oh man some of these titles here we go slave girls from beyond infinity This might be the most wild set of titles ever of anybody we've covered up to this point in the podcast.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:She also was in Sorority Babes in the Slimeball Bolorama.
SPEAKER_01:Okay.
SPEAKER_00:As well as in Sequel.
SPEAKER_01:Wait, there's a sequel?
SPEAKER_00:There's a sequel. She's in that. Nightmare Sisters. The Jigsaw Murders. I don't think it has anything to do with... Oh. Yeah, because this is much earlier.
SPEAKER_01:Has nothing at all to do with Saw. Saw.
SPEAKER_00:Okay. Transylvania Twist.
SPEAKER_01:Okay. Okay.
SPEAKER_00:Bad Girls from Mars, Teenage Exorcist. Okay. This is an interesting title, Replicator, which I presume is a mashup of reptile and alligator, but an alligator is a reptile,
SPEAKER_01:so. Okay. I'm going to give you the synopsis. It's very brief. Okay. Army experimentation with transporter devices accidentally turns people into alligators. So with that being said, the cover art for, I don't know if there was a DVD release, but it is just a woman in a bikini with an alligator head holding a laser gun.
SPEAKER_00:Amazing.
SPEAKER_01:Yes.
SPEAKER_00:So it's humans that turn into alligators?
SPEAKER_01:Just their head. Just their
SPEAKER_00:head? I
SPEAKER_01:don't know. That's just the art. It just looks like the head. Got it. The alligator head on a bikini body. But in the movie... Maybe they did a little more with it. I don't know.
SPEAKER_00:Gotcha. Okay. Thank you for that deep dive.
SPEAKER_01:That was worth it.
SPEAKER_00:She also was in The Frightening, Megascorpions. Megascorpions. Dead Clowns, The Ritual, Postmortem, Bloodstruck, The Summer of Massacre. We brought this up a couple weeks ago for somebody else. I think it was the gentleman who scored Friday the 13th. 1313. Colin Cougar Colt. Okay. Yeah, it was what? Henry Manfredini. Okay. So he scored those films. We also brought this up ages ago, but I don't know who it was for, but she was in Caesar and Otto's Deadly Christmas or Xmas, as well as Caesar and Otto's Paranormal Halloween.
SPEAKER_01:I do remember those coming
SPEAKER_00:up. Yeah. Those were really notable. I mean, how do you forget that?
SPEAKER_01:How have we not watched those yet?
SPEAKER_00:Lizzie Borden's Revenge, which would be probably fun. Didn't she get her revenge?
UNKNOWN:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Maybe it's just a film about her killing her parents. I mean, I don't know if that was ever like, like, look, she probably killed her parents, but I don't know if she ever was convicted. I don't know. I don't
SPEAKER_01:remember. How many whacks were there? There were a lot of whacks.
SPEAKER_00:40 whacks. Is that
SPEAKER_01:what it is? 40 whacks? Okay.
SPEAKER_00:Three squeam. I'm going to say.
SPEAKER_01:Fuck yeah. Are we going to talk about squeam queens?
SPEAKER_00:Three of them. Say it.
SPEAKER_01:Scream Queens.
SPEAKER_00:Thank you. Now I'm like, I can't say it. It's like in my head now. Okay. Hot Tub Party Massacre. Hot Tub Party, okay. She has done a lot of massacres. Several massacres. I've been trading off of her notoriety for this film. Amazing. Because there's, I already said the Summer Massacre, the Hot Tub Party Massacre. She's also in Bloody Hooker Massacre.
SPEAKER_01:Holy shit.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, right? Death House. It wants blood! Exclamation point. Big freaking snake.
SPEAKER_03:I love
SPEAKER_00:that one. This is fun. This is really fun. So she's in a film called Slumber Party Slaughter Party 2.
SPEAKER_01:Slumber Party Slaughter Party 2? What the fuck are we doing now?
SPEAKER_00:And her character's name
SPEAKER_01:is Jamie
SPEAKER_00:Lee.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, that's fun. Yeah, right? That's fun.
SPEAKER_00:She's in a film called Spider Baby, or The Maddest Story Ever Told. I feel like it's trying to be a little bit more sophisticated. This one, now we've watched some really bad Amityville films.
SPEAKER_01:We have.
SPEAKER_00:She's in one called Amityville Apartment, but it's the abbreviated version of apartment. Okay. So APT. She's in a film called, and this is the last... what I'm naming the haunted, the possessed and the damned.
SPEAKER_01:That covers, I guess those different categories where you might find yourself in one of these movies. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And beyond all of those, which is about 30, 30 titles. She, like I said, she's over 250 and a lot of uncredited credits, like things that she was just a part of, but, uh,
SPEAKER_01:whoo. That was a fun one. A lot of videos with very, very interesting, uh, names as well i mean demon divas in the lanes of damnation a lot but that's just video i don't know what that may be but in in terms of uh interesting titles this might be the best we've we've ever seen yes
SPEAKER_00:yeah i would say that henry manfredini because he works so much in horror i remember him having a lot of really fun titles too but i think she just edges him out
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I mean, it's amazing. There's just, there's too many to even name
SPEAKER_00:in this. Yeah, I mean, I picked the highlights, what I felt were the most fun, but there's so many more. Okay, film synopsis. A female high school student slumber party turns into a bloodbath as a newly escaped psychotic serial killer wielding a power drill prowls her neighborhood.
SPEAKER_01:That's it. I mean, that's the movie. Yeah? Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I mean, nope. Good, good, uh... good, concise synopsis of what happens. I mean, so at the tail end of the last episode, you at that point didn't remember seeing this film, but then once we got started with it, you're like, oh no, yes, I do remember seeing this film. What are your, like, do you enjoy, I've made it pretty clear how I feel about it, so like, how do you enjoy or not enjoy the film?
SPEAKER_01:Knowing that it was originally written to be more of like a parody makes sense, and it makes sense just like based off like the writing and some of the performances, but then knowing that it was, there was at least the attempt to pivot into something more serious. It's for, for me, it's like, if it's a like low budget and you're for sure all in on the joke, then that's kind of fun. And there's some fun moments in it, but like, It's just it's it is legitimately a really bad movie. It really is. I mean,
SPEAKER_00:well, what I was going to say so earlier when I mentioned that I came to appreciate the. or the scenes with Trish, Kim, and Jackie.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, there's some fun moments in it, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:When they're all sitting in front of the fireplace, each with a knife, with their backs to each other, I thought that was actually kind of hilarious.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, there's some cool, fun stuff in it.
SPEAKER_00:They're not idiots. Once they realize what's going on, Like, I, for instance, like, very smart of Jeff and Neil to say, like, we'll both go at the same time in different directions. He can't be in two places at once. Like, they both end up getting killed. But, like... Yeah, this
SPEAKER_01:isn't Scream.
SPEAKER_00:That was the best they could do in that moment. Yeah. Because the phone line was dead. So how else are you going to get people to realize what's happening?
SPEAKER_01:There are just some, like... Typical, classic, dumb, horror decisions. That wasn't one of them. But earlier in the movie, when Trish is on the phone and she's like, I think somebody's here. Yeah,
SPEAKER_00:that was weird.
SPEAKER_01:She hangs up the phone, makes sure that she's locked herself inside. She's locked herself. And then she starts playing the piano. Until she hears like footsteps upstairs. And I'm like, what's even
SPEAKER_00:happening? This was such an expansive cast that like the one character I didn't include was Mr. Constant?
SPEAKER_01:Content?
SPEAKER_00:Content. Such a weird last name. But yeah, he's the neighbor who ended up being initially the person that she was hearing in the house. And that was an interesting character because you kind of get the creepy vibes from him initially.
SPEAKER_01:You do, but there's like no
SPEAKER_00:reason or payoff. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think that's maybe the closest they got to a red herring.
SPEAKER_01:We already knew that he wasn't the guy, really, right?
SPEAKER_00:We already knew that he was. I mean, it was just possible that he could be another creepy guy. But because, you know, when when Trisha's parents go away for the weekend and they're like, oh, he'll be here. Yeah, she gives him a look. But you realize she's giving him the look because she's like, shit, I'm going to have the slumber party. I don't want him to be like, I don't
SPEAKER_01:need this narc.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, exactly. But then even though he's well aware they got beer, they got pot. He doesn't care. He's like, just don't like be like, hey, responsible, taking
SPEAKER_01:easy with the Maui Waui
SPEAKER_00:yeah yeah he's like be cool about it and so he ends up you know but that yeah that that was a weird moment but like I liked that once the girls knew what was happening you know that's not an altogether unsmart thing to do where like you stay together you don't split up yeah you each have a weapon and you have your backs to each other so there's no no Nothing in your eyesight that's unaccounted for. Like if he's entering the room, somebody's going to see him. But then what was it? What ended up happening where like when I was talking about the one surprise kill, Jackie, I don't remember what causes Jackie to open the door, but then he's right there and he just immediately slits her throat.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, yeah. I don't know if it was when Neil or Jeff was killed or if it was the pizza guy.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, it was. It was.
SPEAKER_01:It was after the pizza guy. Yeah. Because Jackie is actually turns out my spirit animal because.
SPEAKER_00:Yes.
SPEAKER_01:This fucking pizza guy is murdered. She picks up the pizza box and just starts eating the pizza.
SPEAKER_00:Might be, again, one of the best moments. Yeah. Entire movie. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:No, there were some like really like fun moments in it. Overall, what this movie had going for it, they originally wanted it to have a 90-minute runtime. It ends up coming in at 76 minutes. Yeah. At a cool 76 minutes. So that actually helps out. Yes.
SPEAKER_00:The pacing's pretty good. I mean, things move along. Things move along.
SPEAKER_01:We get nudity in the opening credits. We get the first kill before... In
SPEAKER_00:like two minutes. Yeah. Yeah. There are some lulls, but it starts off with a bang, so to speak.
SPEAKER_01:The massacre begins, frankly... Hours before any slumber party.
SPEAKER_00:Absolutely.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And I do think, like, look, if you think about, like, actually what happens in the film. Okay, so it's a Friday afternoon. The girls wrap up school. They come home. A couple of them go over to Trisha's house. They are hanging out. Reading horoscopes,
SPEAKER_01:reading the newspaper.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, they realize that there's a serial killer out there. Like, not a ton is happening, but they do have these, like, really fun moments sprinkled throughout the film. Like, to me, that was so funny when Jackie's like, I'm hungry. Like, do you think the pizza's still good? Like, with the dead guy on top of it. Like, it was funny. Yeah,
SPEAKER_01:I love that moment.
SPEAKER_00:And then Kim's like, yeah, me too. You know, so... I do enjoy the film. Is it a film that you would want to watch again? I
SPEAKER_01:don't know if I would like seek this film out. If it was on, I would kind of like see like, okay, this is where we are in the movie. It's only 76 minutes. I probably got 25 minutes left in the movie. Sure, let's do it. I
SPEAKER_00:mean, for me, this is a fun one. So I don't mind having it on. I mean, we own it. I, up to this point, have not seen, though, any of the other films.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, that's the thing. I just have so many unanswered questions. What I think I need is more Slumber Party massacre lore. So I'd be willing to check out the sequels.
SPEAKER_00:I don't know how connected they are to the original story.
SPEAKER_01:Well, goddammit.
SPEAKER_00:So, but there is a two and three, and then there was a reboot, which, did we watch the reboot? We might have watched, maybe I need to correct myself. I have a feeling we might have watched the reboot.
SPEAKER_01:I have no memory of that, but I also have no memory of watching this.
SPEAKER_00:We watched the reboot of Black Christmas. That's what we watched the reboot of.
SPEAKER_01:We've seen, I think, the reboot of Friday the 13th with Sam from Supernatural. Correct. Which was weird because why is Jason Voorhees in... I don't remember at all how they explained away the mom. So we've seen a few remakes. Black Christmas remake, I think... I don't remember really loving that, but I think I enjoyed it a lot more than the actual original Black Christmas.
SPEAKER_00:I think what I really appreciate about this film, and I would totally be on board to watch the sequels and the reboot, is we're talking 1982.
SPEAKER_01:We are.
SPEAKER_00:Still not a lot of opportunities for women to be behind the camera. Yeah. We have a female screenwriter. Yeah. And then Amy Holden Jones, who is given this opportunity to direct this movie, she is basically mandated to do certain things that I don't think she would have done otherwise. Like, it really was a corpsman call where he's like, you got to have this in the film. And so, you know, she did what she kind of had to do. And I hear the point about people... not being okay with the TNA in it.
SPEAKER_01:Oh,
SPEAKER_00:it's not ever something that I need to have in a movie.
SPEAKER_01:So, but you brought up the, uh, just like the, the focus on the one boob. Yes. In the makeout scene. Yes. That was not her because she refused to show her breast when they were filming the scene. So it was, uh, Michelle Michael who immediately volunteered and they, that's why it's just like the boob. Exactly.
UNKNOWN:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:I... Look.
SPEAKER_01:So a stand-in
SPEAKER_00:boob. A stand-in boob. I mean, I guess good for her. So I guess Michelle Michaels didn't care. I think she got paid a little extra for doing that, too. Now that you mention that, I think I did read that, too, somewhere.
SPEAKER_01:Paid by the boob now?
SPEAKER_00:Paid by the boob. I think that might be the most extreme close-up I've ever seen. But had to make sure, I guess,
SPEAKER_01:that you didn't...
SPEAKER_00:See anything else that could identify her. Yeah,
SPEAKER_01:yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, so... Yeah. Certain parts of the film don't need to have it. I think I understand, given who was behind the film and the time period in which it was made, why those scenes were there. You know, but... but otherwise I do really enjoy the movie. I enjoy like some moments are pretty absurd, but I do like these little things that you see sprinkled in that show the strength. And I think intelligence generally speaking for a slasher film of the main characters and that there are so many prominent female characters that aren't there just to show off their boobs or just to be killed off. There are stories among them. So
SPEAKER_01:there's a surprising depth to the slumber party massacre.
SPEAKER_00:Yes. Didn't know. One last thing before we get to our call to action that I just want to bring up. So Rolf Jones, the guy, the brother who did the score. Oh, yeah. Did the entire score on his Casio synthesizer.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. He's basically he's Ross from Friends. Yes. He's going to work
SPEAKER_00:on my music. I just thought that was amazing. I was like, sure he did. Yep. Yep. Yeah. Chuck's out.
SPEAKER_01:He like hit the little like church organ thing and just. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Are you being a fan of the opera? Yeah, I think I was. In any case, call to action. Gosh. Oh, my God. You know what? Actually, I would be curious about just from like purely, I don't know. I already used the word curious, but I just want to know if people are familiar with the entire franchise.
SPEAKER_01:Yes, that's a good one.
SPEAKER_00:I just want to know, what we see in this film, especially given the fact that all the other films are directed by women. Do you see the same moments of, you know, certain strengths and intelligences of the different characters and, or do they dumb it down? Like, is this kind of the pinnacle? Do they dumb it down? You can certainly dumb it down. You can certainly dumb it down from what's even in
SPEAKER_01:this film. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:So, like I was saying, like, a lot of times, you know, the women are there strictly to show off their bodies and then be unceremoniously killed off.
SPEAKER_01:You know what I hope is that in at least one of the sequels, somebody says after one of the kills, what is this? Some kind of slumber party massacre? That would make it... Immediate five stars for me.
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SPEAKER_01:even pretend to call it X anymore, do you?
SPEAKER_00:No, I'm over that bit. Yeah, fuck that guy. I've done that too many times. Yeah, enough of
SPEAKER_01:it.
SPEAKER_00:Sneak peek.
SPEAKER_01:What do we got?
SPEAKER_00:I'm getting sad already. This is already our third film into the Halloween series, so we are more done with it than we have yet to go. Look
SPEAKER_01:forward to our new horror-centric podcast. No, we're not doing that, but we should probably. We should, but... Maybe, who knows?
SPEAKER_00:Because we have so much free time. But I am very excited to do this next film. It is very much a departure from the films that we've covered so far. I tried to, you know... make them all a little bit unique, kind of. Like, Christine is not, like, Slumber Party Massacre and Friday the 13th, obviously those are really similar. We do have, like, what I would say are three slashers. Christine is its own thing. It is. And then this is also its own thing.
SPEAKER_01:Very much so.
SPEAKER_00:Do you know which film I'm referring to?
SPEAKER_01:No.
SPEAKER_00:You're so immediate to agree with me. So this is the film that I said at one point, oh, you know what would be a nice twofer viewing night? The Changeling in this film. Because it also has a very strong gothic sensibility.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, we're going to do a ghost story, aren't we?
SPEAKER_00:Just ghost
SPEAKER_01:story. Son of a gun.
SPEAKER_00:But yes.
SPEAKER_01:Okay. Ghost story.
SPEAKER_00:So this came on our radar a couple years ago. And... I don't know why I just find it a really fascinating film. It's really interesting for the fact that it has like some very heavy hitter actors. Very
SPEAKER_01:interesting casting. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. I mean, we're kind of flipping the script in terms of like, so this film had a ton of women. This is going to be another one of those films where like, there's one very notable woman and then that's about it. Yeah. The rest are all dudes, but they're dudes like Fred Astaire. Yeah. So there's,
SPEAKER_01:it's weird when you say it out loud. Yeah. Yeah. That ghost story with
SPEAKER_00:Fred Astaire. And actually a shared actor with, the changeling so some some really interesting performances a really interesting storyline there's a lot to talk about there about oh yeah in terms of like their relationship with this woman and super excited to cover it so in the meantime thank you to everyone for hanging with us we really appreciate you taking the time when life's busy just in general and then more specifically there are so many podcasts out there that you you could be listening to. So we appreciate you listening to ours and we will talk to you again in two weeks time.