'80s Movie Montage
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Xanadu
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In this episode, Anna and Derek chat about the effortless charisma of Gene Kelly, the reality of "making it" in Hollywood, and much more during their discussion of the cult classic Xanadu (1980).
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Anna Keizer and Derek Dehanke are the co-hosts of ‘80s Movie Montage. The idea for the podcast came when they realized just how much they talk – a lot – when watching films from their favorite cinematic era. Their wedding theme was “a light nod to the ‘80s,” so there’s that, too. Both hail from the Midwest but have called Los Angeles home for several years now. Anna is a writer who received her B.A. in Film/Video from Columbia College Chicago and M.A. in Film Studies from Chapman University. Her dark comedy short She Had It Coming was an Official Selection of 25 film festivals with several awards won for it among them. Derek is an attorney who also likes movies. It is a point of pride that most of their podcast episodes are longer than the movies they cover.
Here it I want you to promise me one thing. Any on opening night, I get the first dance. You're gonna dance. Oh, I've been known to twinkle a toe or two.
SPEAKER_00:Listen, if you're gonna dance, you have to wear something uh uh that looks special.
SPEAKER_05:You need some uh glitz. Glitz? Something sharp looking.
SPEAKER_00:You know, something with a bit of pizzazz to it.
SPEAKER_02:Hello and welcome to 80s movie montage. This is Derek.
SPEAKER_00:And this is Anna.
SPEAKER_02:And that was Olivia Newton-John as Kira, Gene Kelly as Danny McGuire, and Michael Beck as Sonny Malone in 1980's Xanadu.
SPEAKER_01:Xanadu.
SPEAKER_02:Wow. And and yes, Gene Kelly, you have been known to twinkle a toe or two.
SPEAKER_01:I know. I loved that little wink too.
SPEAKER_02:It was, you know, it was tough because like I I couldn't resist that. I was very tempted to have the conversation between Sonny and Zeus.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, sure.
SPEAKER_02:But I was afraid that people would think that's not even a real movie.
SPEAKER_01:It I mean, what kind of movie this is, I'm not sure I know, but it was uh I know what it is.
SPEAKER_02:It was in part the inspiration for the first ever Razzie Awards.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, that's right. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:So that's that's what uh that's what kind of movie this is.
SPEAKER_01:I mean, I know that this film very much has a cult following and is much beloved by certain audiences, and I am not here to dispute that. But it was it was a wild pride to watch this movie in full. It was the first time I had seen it in full.
SPEAKER_02:And the best thing that comes out of this movie for me is the song Magic.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, which was literally the one song that they didn't allow Olivia Newton John to sing in full.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, you get you get it a couple times, but neither time.
SPEAKER_01:No, you get like a couple bars, and that was so infuriating because I actually love that song. Yeah, and it's by far, in my humble opinion, the strongest song of any of these.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:So not to say that there aren't other great tunes, but that went on to be a number one. Yeah, it's a great song. Anyway, all right. So Xanadu 1980. And uh yeah, let's dive in. So as far as the writing credits go, we have two why are you laughing already?
SPEAKER_03:I didn't know there were.
SPEAKER_01:Oh wow. Uh throwing some shade.
SPEAKER_02:Uh I thought we were just gonna spend three hours going through all the Xanadu dancer credits.
SPEAKER_01:It's it's not a it's not a totally unfounded dig. Um and you'll see that like for the first guy I'm gonna bring up Richard Christian Danis is how I'm gonna say his last name.
SPEAKER_02:I respect that you just don't want to say De Anis.
SPEAKER_01:First writing credit.
SPEAKER_02:Okay.
SPEAKER_01:For for this gentleman. Uh four writing credits total. So this is one of the four. The other ones that I have. Uh all TV. So he wrote on a show, and I mean, I guess one of them I'm familiar with. Uh he wrote on a show called Matt Houston.
SPEAKER_03:Okay.
SPEAKER_01:That's not one I'm familiar with. He wrote on a show called Crime Story and O'Hara.
SPEAKER_03:Okay.
SPEAKER_01:So that's that's uh that's Richard. All right. Okay, so moving on, we have both writers with like three names. Mark Reed Rubel.
SPEAKER_03:Okay.
SPEAKER_01:So we have him also credited as a screen runner, screenwriter on this. He has eight total writing credits. Nice. So neither of these gentlemen have extensive filmographies. It's possible that they pivoted their creative pursuits into other places that wouldn't be noted on IMDb. But there's there's one actually really interesting credit that this guy has. So a couple of them that I wrote down, uh a few films, Alm Almost Summer, Big Business. I'm pretty sure that's the one with Bet Midler?
SPEAKER_03:Yes. Okay. And uh Shelly.
SPEAKER_01:No, no, no. You're thinking uh wait, maybe you're right. Shelly's because uh what's the one that she did with Lily Tomlin?
SPEAKER_02:Um It's either Shelly.
SPEAKER_01:That was it.
SPEAKER_02:That was it. Oh, it was it.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, okay. But I think you're right, she did do a movie with um Shelly Long, pretty sure. So anyway. And he also did some TV movies, some TV shows. But the one the one notable one that I was like, huh, interesting. So the reason why it first caught my eye is because he did a TV movie called Prince of Bel Air.
SPEAKER_03:Okay.
SPEAKER_01:And then I was like, what's this about? It stars Mark Harmon and Kirsty Alley.
SPEAKER_02:It has nothing to do with Will Smith or Summer School.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Because they reteam. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:It's so funny. The just okay.
SPEAKER_02:Nobody let Will Smith know about this because he's liable to slap someone.
SPEAKER_01:Keep Prince of Bel Air out of your mouth. Yeah. Anyway. So there we go. Those are the writing credits for Xanadu. And moving on.
SPEAKER_02:You know how like a lot of times we're like, oh my god, this person has like a couple hundred credits. We've gone over a few, so we're gonna cross-reference. Not this time.
SPEAKER_01:Not this time. Well, it's possible that Mark will, you know, at some point in the future, we might do big business. We might so he might come up again. But otherwise, I think that will be the only time we speak of these gentlemen. Okay, so moving on to the director, Robert Greenwald. So this was his feature film directorial debut. And I think he has a really interesting, especially in the last couple of years, very interesting pivot in terms of where his career has gone.
SPEAKER_04:Oh.
SPEAKER_01:So earlier on, I mean, obviously, this is like a narrative feature. Um, another one that I think was earlier in his career, Hear No Evil.
SPEAKER_02:But Wait, Here No Evil. The one with um Richard Pryor. No, I'm thinking of his own.
SPEAKER_01:You're thinking, I know what you're thinking of, though.
SPEAKER_02:And Richard, no, um Gene Wilder. And Richard Pryor.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah. I mean, they did a couple films together. But here's what's interesting about his career is that as of late, he's gone hard into more um I guess. Political documentary. Yes.
SPEAKER_03:Document uh documentaries.
SPEAKER_01:Documentaries, yes. Yes, thank you, thank you for that. So some of his credits include Out Foxed, Rupert Murdoch's War on Journalism, Iraq for Sale, The W War Profiteers, Donald Trump's Crime Wave, Donald Trump, or I'm sorry, Trump's War on Women, Donald Trump a racist with racist policies.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I gotta give credit to whoever's titling these because they're doing a bang-up job.
SPEAKER_01:And Robert, you go, you go, Robert. Keep it like I said, we're happy to the good fight.
SPEAKER_02:We're happy to talk about Zadadu, one of the best movies ever made. Yeah. By one of the best directors.
SPEAKER_01:Keep going with it, Robert. And then he's also, again, earlier in his career, because he has pivoted pretty solely into, like you said, that political documentary sphere. But he did a lot of TV movies too earlier in his career. So okay. Familiar name. Victor J. Kemper.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:We've brought him up several times.
SPEAKER_03:Really?
SPEAKER_01:Yes, we have.
SPEAKER_03:Okay.
SPEAKER_01:Um, and not even that long ago, he passed away in 2023. But what a filmography he had. And because it's been a minute, we'll go over some of these credits. Um, I have exclusively films for him. So, well, one was probably straight to video, but we'll we'll make it count. So and it's fun because since he has come up a couple times, some of these credits, even though we have never covered these films because I don't think they're 80s films, but we've brought them up enough on his account, they might be giants, as well as who is Harry Kellerman and why is he saying those terrible things about me? Okay. Always love when those films come back.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I mean, I I'm not even gonna say it, but I love it.
SPEAKER_01:I love it.
SPEAKER_02:I love the might be they might be giants reference.
SPEAKER_01:Uh so he also shot The Candidate, Dog Day Afternoon, The Last Tycoon, Slap Shot. Too bad that's not an 80s film.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Oh God, The Jerk.
SPEAKER_02:Too bad that's not an 80s film as well.
SPEAKER_01:The jerk. What is it? Right under 789, I think.
SPEAKER_02:Yep. So Well you might do some some more of the movies that he worked on, like the final countdown.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, for sure. Oh, I don't know how that one. But um, the ones that so the the couple times that he's been brought up, we brought him up for Mr. Mom.
SPEAKER_03:Yep.
SPEAKER_01:Go check out that episode. Probably most recently. No, no, no, no. Yes. That we almost did, I think we did him almost back to back last year. Uh, we brought him up for National Lampoons Vacation.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:And then we also brought him up last season for Cloak and Dagger.
SPEAKER_03:Okay.
SPEAKER_01:And those were in very quick succession. I don't know if they were actually back to back. They might have been, to be quite honest.
SPEAKER_02:Call to action.
SPEAKER_01:Call to action. When did we do those films? Uh we he will certainly come up again because at some point we will do Pee-Wee's Big Adventure.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, yeah, for sure.
SPEAKER_01:And probably the first time we brought him up was for the movie Clue.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:So definitely check that. That one was so fun with Andy. She loves that movie so much. It was it was really fun talking to her about that. He also shot Beethoven, Tommy Boy, a film that we have ragged on quite a bit, even though it's not even an 80s film, Jingle All the Way.
SPEAKER_02:He also did that movie that I misplaced for the um one of the writers, I think. See no evil, hear no evil.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, good job.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Well, thank you for bringing up these titles.
SPEAKER_02:Uh director of photography on that.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. No, thank you for bringing that up. And then his final credit, I mentioned straight to video, bring it on, all or nothing.
SPEAKER_02:Okay. How many of those were there made? I feel like there was like a whole Bring It On franchise.
SPEAKER_01:I think it is one of those where like the first film, obviously huge with Kirsten Dunce. I think after that, though, I want to say they were probably all straight to video. But there's probably more than one.
SPEAKER_02:It just like found tapped into this like hidden market of people that love watching cheerleaders fight.
SPEAKER_01:I guess so. And it didn't star any of the, to my knowledge, any of the people that were in the original, but all right. Which okay, in a way, it makes sense because they're high schoolers, so it's like they would they would cycle out.
SPEAKER_02:Tell that to the duffers.
SPEAKER_01:I knew I knew like I knew you were gonna say that. Like even as I'm what a setup. All right, moving on to music. Uh the first time, but not the last time. I I feel pretty confident saying that, that we will bring up Barry Devorzen. He is still with us, 91 years old. Uh probably retired at this point. Uh, so he is an Oscar nominated composer earlier in his career. He scored, I don't, I don't know this movie, Bless the Beasts and Children. Don't know it. But he got a best music original song Oscar nomination for it. He scored Dillinger. Here's nice little connection here to one of the actors. He scored the Warriors.
SPEAKER_02:Nice. Yeah, that's uh that's the lead in this movie, right? We'll call him the lead. The guy.
SPEAKER_01:We'll call him the guy, the artist. We'll get we'll get I'm being mean, but okay. So he also scored on some TV shows. He scored for the TV series version of Private Benjamin. He did Simon and Simon. That's a pretty well-known one.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, it is.
SPEAKER_01:The reason why I said that we will almost certainly bring him up again is because maybe even this season, I really, really want to cover Night of the Creeps for our Halloween series.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:And he scored that.
SPEAKER_02:Too bad that the uh other horror movie is a decade too like Go for it. The Exorcist Part Three, which should have been The Exorcist Part Two.
SPEAKER_01:And then it sounds like, and I feel like we have brought this up before, even though not an 80s film, but somehow when The Exorcist III came up, there is like a different version of it that they call the Exorcist III Colon Legion.
SPEAKER_02:That's interesting because that was the title of the book.
SPEAKER_01:Okay.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:So my guess is that it's like, is it kind of like Superman 2, the Donner Cut or something like that?
SPEAKER_02:This is literally the first I've heard of it, so I'm gonna track it down after this. We've talked about it. I really like that movie and also have a bad memory.
SPEAKER_01:Okay. So moving on to film editing, Dennis Verkler. So he also has passed. He passed away in 2022. He had a great career. And hmm, yeah, possibly. We'll bring him up again at some point. He was an Oscar-nominated editor, and I have exclusively filmed for him.
SPEAKER_03:Okay.
SPEAKER_01:So really early in his career, he cut the bad news Bears Go to Japan.
SPEAKER_02:That was that the sequel? Yes. To the just the Bad News Bears.
SPEAKER_01:I don't know if it's the first sequel. I don't know how many sequels that particular franchise had.
SPEAKER_02:They the bad news bears got into like the bad news bears versus Frankenstein kind of territory where it just got. I don't think it really did, but there were like old like kind of crazy. Old c like Laurel and Hardy would have like weird shit like that, where like them versus the wolfman.
SPEAKER_01:Are you thinking Abbott Costello?
SPEAKER_02:Yes.
SPEAKER_01:There you go. Fuck a call out.
SPEAKER_02:I feel like I may have said something about my memory, but I can't. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:So he also cut Airplane 2 Colon the sequel. He did so. There was a 1983 film called Independence Day. He cut that.
SPEAKER_02:Probably nothing like the uh the other one. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Gorky Park. Uh this one also is a little less well known, but there was a 1989 movie called The Favorite. The reason why I brought that up is because I really do like the one with Olivia Coleman and Emma Stone. Yeah. Yeah. So he got his first film editing Oscar nomination for The Hunt for Red October.
SPEAKER_02:Probably that scene where they're like chomping away at food and the and the language translates or just kind of like moves from Russian to English, but really Scottish because it was Sean Connery.
SPEAKER_01:That makes me think so much of the 13th Warrior. Yeah. Where he They're all taught.
SPEAKER_02:Like I just learned.
SPEAKER_01:He's like, I just I will never forget. I was in the theater. I saw that movie in the theater. I saw every movie in the theater before like 2000. And I remember fucking Antonio Banderas sitting at a campfire. Yep. And literally over the course of one night, he like learns their language. It is so ridiculous, but that's what that makes me think of. Uh he did so he kind of had like a niche for a while. Under Siege, he got another editing Oscar nomination for the fugitive. Nice.
SPEAKER_02:The one-armed man.
SPEAKER_01:He this is kind of an interesting duo. He cut both Batman Forever and Batman and Robin. He did The Devil's Own, A Perfect Murder, Daredevil. So it's like weird because he did like these thrillers and then also these like big time like comic book.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, the the Ben Affleck Daredevil movie, right?
SPEAKER_01:That's I believe so. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:I mean, it's quite gracious to call that a big comic book movie, but nevertheless.
SPEAKER_01:Maybe what the uh what they had hoped it would be.
SPEAKER_02:I mean, the Ben Affleck version stumbled so that the Netflix one could fly.
SPEAKER_01:Sure. Uh he did the 2005 The Fog, the 2010, The Wolfman. So he kind of did some like remakes of some good horror films. And then his final credit was 2017, uh, The Ottoman Lieutenant. All right. Okay. We're at the stars of this film. Starting with Olivia Newton John. It uh it's hard for me to say that she's passed away.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:It's really hard for me to say that. Um she was far too young. Uh she passed in 2022. And like you mentioned at the top of the episode, she plays Kira, so she plays one of the nine muses.
SPEAKER_02:She doesn't actually say her full name, but she says enough of it, I think.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, and I'll be honest, I did not, I mean, sitting at my computer, but uh I didn't take down the names of all the muses.
SPEAKER_03:It's fine.
SPEAKER_01:But one of my best, best friends um was inspired by mythology to name like her singing coaching company Nine Muses. Yeah, yeah. So it is it is well known. Kind of like the inspiration for artists comes from the Nine Muses. If you are familiar, have an interest in uh Greek mythology. So her career, uh, for the most part, I have films, and if you go to her IMDB, um you're gonna find a lot of music videos. Yeah, I was thank you, thank you for putting that away. I was about to say something that could be misconstrued as being like uh rude because I was like the IMDB uh kind of uh you can be mistaken in thinking she was in way more films than she was, but because IMDB does include music videos. But she was primarily a singer and a great one at that.
SPEAKER_02:Yes.
SPEAKER_01:So she was like a huge star in in the music world.
SPEAKER_02:She was like a singer that then was in movies.
SPEAKER_01:Correct.
SPEAKER_02:It's kind of like how I like always thought of it.
SPEAKER_01:And it's interesting because like, you know, we're about to get to the other the other what I would say major star. Um he outshines everybody else in this film. The guy from the Warriors. So, you know, back in the day, it I don't know, this is kind of a rabbit hole, but like it probably because a lot of the very, very early actors came from vaudeville. And in vaudeville, you had to do it all. You had to sing, you had to dance, you had to act.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:And so a lot of these early actors, I mean, Gene Kelly actually isn't part of the earliest round of actors, but he comes from this um kind of legacy of like, yeah, you do all the things, and it's kind of expected of you. Yeah. Although he and like, you know, very rarely do you get somebody of that caliber that he was. I mean, him and Fred of Stair are the two that you think of all the time. Standard. As far as like male dancers.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:But it's an interesting kind of pivot because I feel like nowadays, if you like, maybe the closest that we have to that is like someone like Hugh Jackman.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. I think because he was just in that um movie that I just realized was not not about Neil Diamond. No, it was about a guy that did a Neil Diamond like impersonation act, right? Yeah. But between that and like greatest showman. Yeah, and he's all the dancing he did as Wolverine.
SPEAKER_01:I feel like he's one of the few actors nowadays where he is a competent actor, dancer, and singer, and he is looked at positively for that. Where I feel like a lot of people who try to put their foot in those different realms are usually like pick a lane.
SPEAKER_02:I feel like Ryan Gosling maybe got some of that for La La Land.
SPEAKER_01:Probably got a little bit of that. I feel like Jennifer Lilpez kind of gets that a little bit because she like I don't know if she's looked at as like she was like probably first and foremost, like a dancer. Correct.
SPEAKER_02:That branched out into those other areas of entertainment. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:I just feel like people have like a weird kind of like stay in your lane thing. They don't want people to necessarily be good at all the things. Um, so I don't know, and and whatever. I'm probably not being very articulate about it. But Olivia Newton John, you're absolutely right. Like she started out in music and then kind of made her way into acting. Probably outside of this film, the biggest role that she had was Grease. She's Sandy, of Sandy and Danny. And then she reteams with Danny, John Travolta. From Greece for Two of a Kind. Oh. So they do that. And she did, I guess she was on a TV series for a while, Snowy River Colon the McGregor saga.
SPEAKER_02:That sounds very dramatic.
SPEAKER_01:She was in the film Sworded Lives, A Few Best Men. I love that she was in Sharknado 5. Holy cow. Colon Global Swarming. Very fun.
SPEAKER_02:I didn't know there was a five. I need to get caught up with this.
SPEAKER_01:It's probably even past five at this point.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Um, and and as you mentioned, like a lot of her credits are her music videos. And she had some great, like, you know, if you're of a certain generation, you definitely remember the music video for physical.
SPEAKER_02:I remember it just from the office where it's like let's get ethical.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:But uh I feel like she was probably like singer, dancer, actor. Or singer, dancer, actor. Like when I that that to me is what likes her in terms of like talent, her like singing ability, not because she wasn't good at acting, but because she was that good at singing.
SPEAKER_01:She was a phenomenal singer, she had so many hits. I mean, yeah, she was amazing. And even though I don't know if I would say that she was like, she's not a Meryl Streep caliber, very few people are. But she was one person is she had a charisma. She had a charisma about her. Yeah. And and so she definitely had that star quality. To me, the most interesting, interesting thing about this film is kind of oh, and this is just gonna sound so awful the way I'm putting it, but just kind of like how I look at the three major actors in this film. Oh, because you she's kind of in the middle, and then let's move on to the next person, Gene Kelly, who is just top of the top of the top.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Even in his older age in this film, boy, does he have it.
SPEAKER_02:He still does.
SPEAKER_01:Just charm, charisma, magnetism. I mean, he is just a movie star.
SPEAKER_02:And then Michael Beck is like I am physically here and people remember me from the the uh Warriors.
SPEAKER_01:I feel like such an asshole, but it's you know, but it was we'll get to him in a second. Yeah, we'll get to him. Like it it was it was miscast. Um anyway.
SPEAKER_02:It's tough. It's tough for him to be 100%.
SPEAKER_01:But there were options. I mean, I d anyway.
SPEAKER_02:But if you're just trying to get work, the option is like, I'm gonna, yeah, I'm gonna take this job.
SPEAKER_01:I wish I did a deeper dive in terms of like how it got to the point where he was cast for that role.
SPEAKER_02:I don't think he even auditioned.
SPEAKER_01:Shut up. He didn't audition.
SPEAKER_02:It just they just like said, like, hey, we want you to be this movie.
SPEAKER_01:Gene Kelly and Olivia New John.
SPEAKER_02:So if someone said that to you, if they said that to me right now, I'd be like, well, first of all, how? But second of all, sure.
SPEAKER_01:So Gene Kelly, oh my goodness. I I don't know. I might get a little emotional about talking about him because this will be the one and only time we get to do it.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Um so, like he said, he plays Danny McGuire, which is a very, I feel like 1930s, 1940s uh character name from like any movie.
SPEAKER_02:It is the same name as his character in Cover Girl from 1944.
SPEAKER_01:That's right. I did, I did uh remember reading that. So, I mean, this is interesting because this is 1980. However, it was his final feature film. He did other projects, he just wasn't in another movie. Okay. Um, but this still was 16 years before he passed away. He didn't pass away until 1996, so he just kind of decided at some point he wasn't gonna do film anymore. And whew, what what an actor he was. It's interesting though, because you look at his filmography, I um the exact number escapes me, but he's in far fewer films that I actually had realized, or projects overall.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Um was it somewhere in the 50s?
SPEAKER_02:47 overall. Okay. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:So, you know, but that just I think shows you what a stamp he left on the industry. And and he did far more, he, you know, we're talking about acting, singing, dancing. He did far more than that. He directed, he produced. Um, yeah, he he was truly amazing. And I don't like to pit actors against each other, even though that's like what I've been doing throughout this whole episode. But, you know, again, he and Aster are the two that you think of as far as like male dancers. Very different styles, very, very different styles. Really? Gene Kelly definitely had a way more athletic, arguably, a more like conventional masculine kind of energy to his work. Um, Esther was much more refined, more elegant, more graceful in a lot of ways, but they both were just truly amazing. And I love Gene Kelly. Um, he got his, I think just one and done. Yeah, he had one uh best actor Oscar nomination. That was very early in his careers for Anchors Away. And then some just huge, huge name movies that I think most people are familiar with, even if you maybe aren't interested in older film. On the Town, an American in Paris, which won Best Picture. It's fascinating to me that Singing in the Rain didn't win Best Picture because that's by far of that in American in Paris. Love singing in the rain.
SPEAKER_02:And and everyone's at least heard of that. Like, yeah. American in people haven't seen it. They like if you mentioned Singing in the Rain, they'd be like, oh yeah.
SPEAKER_01:You know, you know the song where he is literally I mean, it's quite until dancing in the rain. Literally singing in the rain.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Um, probably a lot of people know the story. It's like a very Michael Jordan type of story where it's like, you know, everybody knows that that one game that Michael Jordan played, he had like a fever. Oh, yeah. And this was exactly that too. Gene Kelly was quite ill when he did that number, um, but he knocked it out of the park. Yeah, professional. He was in Brigad Doom, Inherent the Wind. Um, he did do some TV work, especially later in his career. He uh, I believe reprised the role of going my way, who was that? Was that Bean Crosby? He did the TV series version of it. He also was in North and South, um, book one, North and South.
SPEAKER_02:Oh my god, those mini-series.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, that mini-series, and another miniseries called Sins.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_01:So even though he never won a competitive Oscar, he did, and this is so interesting to me because this is so early in his career still, which shows you again just what it what a quick impact he had on the industry in 1952. Um, still very much in his prime, he got an honorary Oscar for his contributions to the industry. So he was amazing. Um, I know at this point I'm just saying that over and over again, but it cannot be overstated. It can't be overstated. And if maybe you're curious, but you don't know a lot about his work, just take two hours to watch Singing in the Rain. It's a phenomenal film, even if you don't like musicals. Seeing him, seeing Debbie Reynolds, um, seeing oh my goodness, the other gentleman's name is escaping me, Donald O'Connor.
SPEAKER_02:Um especially now when like a lot of people get their like content in a vertical short form format, it's tough. It's a tough sell sometimes to to get anyone to watch just like a a modern conventional film, much less one from like decades ago, where it's just you have to at least open up your mind to the notion that these were like just it was it was different. It was a it's gonna look different and sound different, um but so many of like I'm losing my train of thought here, but like all of it was like foundational to what we get to see now. I don't want to take away because like look, um you know, the people who we currently call like content creators, especially for social media, YouTube I'll I'll say this much, and and maybe maybe I shouldn't, but I would say that if you add up almost all of them together, you will get a fraction of the actual talent that someone like Gene Kelly had. And if that's offensive, then No, I'm not gonna disagree with you.
SPEAKER_01:I do think that like regardless of talent, I do think it takes usually hard work to do what content creators do. But you know, like look, entertainment's constantly changing. There's really no point in kind of arguing where the tide is going. Maybe it'll swing back at some point, but it it does make me sad to think that there are generations, and I know how much this is gonna age me to say this, but just that that aren't familiar with this kind of work. Even like earlier today, uh, I was kind of flipping through channels and it happened one night came on. Yeah. So that precedes like the heavy Gene Kelly era by about 20 years. But even that, I'm like, how many people are familiar with this movie nowadays?
SPEAKER_02:You know, like I mean, I'm gonna raise that and say we primarily actually exclusively talk about movies from the 80s.
SPEAKER_01:True. How many people are familiar with the 80s?
SPEAKER_02:Those are like, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, people are like, oh, it's so long ago. I mean, okay, it is 40 years ago at this point.
SPEAKER_02:I'm assuming someone like it's kind of like the way that you would think about like an older, older movie is how people nowadays might think about the movies we're talking about.
SPEAKER_01:It's true. Oh man. Yeah. Let's move on before I get too depressed. Okay, Michael back. Uh, it's so funny to me that like, and then again, of like all the character names that they pick, Sonny Malone. Um, Sonny Malone, this guy is an artist. He thinks of himself as an artist.
SPEAKER_02:He sure does. He he scrawls things down, tosses them out a window, awakens the nine muses.
SPEAKER_01:It's um, I don't know what to say. He, I mean, he's the actor Michael Back's still very much working today, but I I think it's unfair to him that he was cast in this film because it is a miscast. It is. It it could have gone in so many other directions. I don't know if it would have been a better film, but they needed somebody with a little bit more pizzazz and a little bit more charisma.
SPEAKER_02:They almost could have picked any one of the other artists that worked in the like the company he worked for just like painting large, large versions of album covers.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, that was that was interesting. That was interesting. I mean, like, I'm not sure I'm I'm not disputing the fact that there was like a job for that back then. Yeah. Um, it was an interesting plot point in the film that that's what he did. And we all know that that's what he did because that whole fucking scene was just filled with exposition about when he comes in to work. And I love how he comes. So he comes in, he's like not really eating crow, but he admits that like he had to come back because he wasn't making any money. Yeah. He has these like weird fucking aggro encounters with his boss, and then like literally five minutes within him coming back to work, he sees the album cover with Kira on it, and he's fucking out the door to go find her. Like, it's so bizarre. This movie is just, I don't know. It's not, it all makes sense. We're talking about the muses and and Greek mythology and the whole thing. So it's not necessarily a movie that should be grounded, but it is so fly by the seat of its pants. It is not grounded in any kind of reality whatsoever.
SPEAKER_02:I just want to point out that while this movie was part of the inspiration for the first ever Razzies Award, it did not win.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_02:Can't stop the music.
SPEAKER_01:Oh.
SPEAKER_02:Which was at one point a 99 cent double feature along with Xanadu.
SPEAKER_01:Wow.
SPEAKER_02:One worst picture, although Robert Greenwald did win Worst Director for Xanadu.
SPEAKER_01:And it's also, I mean, maybe I'll put a pin in this. It's interesting that the film's even called Xanadu. That's another callback to um, you know, what we were talking about in terms of like um classic cinema and Susan Kane, and that is the name of um the castle Xanadu, Charles Charles Foster Kane's uh mansion. Anyway, Michael Beck's career mostly mostly mostly films, um as mentioned. So let's say it's a toss-up, would you say, between this and the Warriors, as far as like what people know him for?
SPEAKER_02:No.
SPEAKER_01:I'm gonna say solidly the Warriors.
SPEAKER_02:I think so.
SPEAKER_01:Okay. I think, yeah. You know that film much better than I do.
SPEAKER_02:And I think I think he was not poorly cast for that film. I think that worked. Like I think that that yeah. But it was like they literally just took that character from the Warriors and gave him like a new set of clothes.
SPEAKER_03:Right.
SPEAKER_02:And now he's running a club in Venice or something.
SPEAKER_03:I just yeah.
SPEAKER_02:So like I even in Xanadu, I remember him more from the Warriors.
SPEAKER_01:So it it just is such it is really putting around Peg in a square hole. Like, I it anyway, I feel bad. It's not it's not his fault.
SPEAKER_02:Uh look but I mean his performance he maybe he was miscast, maybe she he was, but that movie did not like it wasn't gonna like live or die on like his shoulders.
SPEAKER_01:I no, I agree with you completely. I mean, it is wispy at best in terms of like a real story, and I don't know if they even would like the filmmakers would even argue against that.
SPEAKER_02:I mean, they might probably wanted him to stay out of the way, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Probably pretty plainly say, like, hey, this is a musical, we just want to showcase these awesome dancers, which they do, yeah. Um, and some of these like great tunes that we have, and they do that as well. But back, so outside of the warriors.
SPEAKER_02:Did he sing in the like the animated one?
SPEAKER_01:Like the yes, yeah, and then he like when he's roller skating, so much roller skating in this film. Um he's singing, yeah, I believe. So Mega Force, the Golden Seal. Uh, he didn't I bring this up earlier. He was on the TV series Houston Knights. He was there. Oh, yeah, you did. Yeah, that's funny. Uh, the Jungle Book, Cullen's Search for the Lost Treasure, The Grace of Jake, and he's done just a lot of TV movies outside of all that. Okay. Okay, so we're gonna probably fly through these next couple people because really the film is those three.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I don't even know who else you're gonna bring up.
SPEAKER_01:I well, the first person I'm gonna bring up is the like real persnickety. Oh, the boss boss. Okay. Yeah. Um, Simpson is his name. And familiar face. Yes. Um, definitely familiar face, James Slo Slowyan.
SPEAKER_03:Sure.
SPEAKER_01:And he's, I mean, he's been in a ton of stuff. I have more TV for him than film. Um, but one film I love the name, The Gang That Couldn't Shoot Straight. I think that's come up before.
SPEAKER_02:It it has, for sure, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Some people might familiar uh recognize him from The Sting. He has a bit part in that film.
SPEAKER_02:I do not, but that's that's uh cool credit.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, he's in that. And then the TV series that I have for him, West Side Medical, oh Madeline, Murder She Wrote. And I think it's one of those deals where he's he was on that show multiple times as different characters, if I remember correctly. Party of five, and then beyond the series where he had kind of a little bit of a longer stint, just again, a lot of TV appearances.
SPEAKER_02:A ton of one-offs, including two episodes of Buck Rogers in the 25th century, which I think they're remaking.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, interesting.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:So the three other people that we're gonna bring up really quickly are three of his like, I guess you would say coworkers, but he doesn't really work there because he just kind of comes in and comes out, and I mean, there is that one little stint where he comes in and he's doing too good of a job and he's taking too long. Uh anyway, but Demetra.
SPEAKER_02:We didn't think we'd see you here again. Yeah. Well, you know, I need to get bread on the table. Oh, are you saying that you tried to make it into artist and then couldn't make enough money for rent? Yep. That's it. That's it.
SPEAKER_01:Well done. So the first person I'm gonna bring up, and I remember as soon as the film started, I was like, I know that face. Demetra Arles. So she plays Helen, she passed in 2012. The reason why I know her is because she's also in the sting.
SPEAKER_02:Yes. Yeah, yeah, she's like the um.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, and okay, it's been a minute since I've watched the film, but isn't she the love interest kind of?
SPEAKER_02:For Robert Rudding. Yeah, yeah. So I think so, and I think he just like shows up at her place.
SPEAKER_01:Right.
SPEAKER_02:And she's like, What are you what are you doing here? And like this is so weird, but I think that interaction was the inspiration for Bob Seeger for a Bob Seeger song.
SPEAKER_01:That's a random random poll. Okay. Uh she has, like I mentioned, I think I mentioned she passed in 2012. But as far as her credits go, um, I have a couple TV, couple films. So she was in a TV series called Rich Man Poor Man Book Two.
SPEAKER_02:Book Two.
SPEAKER_01:We brought this up before. She was on the show Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Some films, A Perfect Couple, It's My Party, and then her final credit was a film called Lost of the Child.
SPEAKER_02:And then a film that we might cover 1982's Firefox.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, I'm sorry I didn't put that down. That's okay. Thank you for adding that. Okay, so another one of Sonny's co-workers. Um, I should have flipped these because she has probably the least amount of lines. But Sandra, played by Katie Hanley. So she's between these two women that I bring up, uh, sorry to to state it this way, but she's the younger, she's the younger of the two women. The other woman, she's a little bit older, she has darker hair as well. But this actress, so a couple, she has four total acting credits. Uh so non-extensive filmography. She was in the film Godspell, and then two TV series. She was in a show called The The Chisholms. Thank you.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:And Charlie's Angels.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, so lastly, and this is that faux conversation that you were having with yourself earlier, just like a minute ago. It was between Sonny and this character, Richie, played by Fred McCarron. He has passed. He passed in 2006, and he probably has the most lines of anybody, to be quite honest.
SPEAKER_02:And he kind of He's just there to move things along.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, he's there to move the get the exposition out.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:He's not in any way a foil to Sonny, but he kind of razzes him a little bit every time he comes in.
SPEAKER_02:A little bit.
SPEAKER_01:A little bit.
SPEAKER_02:This guy.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, exactly. It's that kind of thing. And as far as his credits go, little bit of film, a little bit of TV. I have a film called The Boogans.
SPEAKER_03:Oh.
SPEAKER_01:Class Reunion.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:The American Snitch. A TV series called Amandas. Another TV series called The Shell Game. Film called The Boost. And then I think he was just a one and then on this, but his final credit was on The Golden Girls. Nice. Yeah. Film synopsis.
SPEAKER_02:What is there is there a film synopsis? Okay, let's see let's see what it is.
SPEAKER_01:A struggling artist living in Los Angeles meets a girl who may hold the key to his happiness.
SPEAKER_02:That could be the synopsis to a movie that I would have enjoyed more than what I watched.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I mean, okay. You know what? The most truthful thing I will say about this film is the depiction of somebody who comes to this town. We live in Los Angeles, and not a lot has changed in the 46 years since this film came out in terms of and I'm not- I'm really not trying to be demeaning about this, but people come out here because they have a dream and they want to act or they want to sing or they want to whatever. And I think that a lot of people underestimate how hard it is to I'm not even talking about like the level of Gene Kelly and Olivia Newton John type status. I'm just talking about putting like like this.
SPEAKER_02:They just want to be Sonny Malone.
SPEAKER_01:Like Sonny saying, I need bread. I need to make rent. I think people underestimate how challenging, and I mean, unfortunately, it's only gotten harder, in my my humble opinion, um, to be able to do that out here. And and I think that is the most truthful thing about this film is depicting somebody who had the depiction of the starving artist is the most truthful thing. Yeah. I think so. I think so. And just, you know, kind of this attitude that he seems to have of like, well, I'm talented, so I should be successful, you know, and realizing uh that's doesn't always work out that way.
SPEAKER_02:So success for him, it turns out it wasn't it wasn't going to be found in the form of successful art. It was having a business partnership where you bring literally no assets into anything.
SPEAKER_01:Literally fucking nothing to the table. That's the other thing about this film where it's like, what?
SPEAKER_02:Like when Danny, when Gene Kelly's character is like, I want you to be my partner, I'm like, what Why?
SPEAKER_01:Why? Why would you? And you know, Danny Danny, this is a significant investment, sir. Yeah. I mean, he's putting like life savings into this thing. And the thing is, is that I was like, what the fuck is Xanando? It's just a space where people go roller skate. Like I couldn't, I could not figure out. And then the whole fucking last 20 minutes of the film is just Olivia Newton John coming out in different outfits and singing different songs.
SPEAKER_02:Like it is They gave up.
SPEAKER_01:They just totally gave up on the film. Yeah. It's I I could not figure out what Xanadu was really like a third space, like just a gathering place for people. Like I just a nightclub. Sure.
SPEAKER_02:With bands and music.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, fair stuff.
SPEAKER_02:I don't know. Um maybe they had like chicken sandwiches or something, or like they served fine dining.
SPEAKER_01:No, that's that's fair. I just um I don't know. It's really that part of the film is no different than really any other part of the film in terms of just being really light on like significant, like laying down a story.
SPEAKER_02:But there is for sure like an idea here with like a struggling artist who receives this divine inspiration from the muses, and there's like a love interest, and Zeus gets in like there's a Zeus gets involved. There's like a story there. It just it it like they obviously were like, we don't really care about any of that. We just need a reason to get from like one musical number to the next.
SPEAKER_01:It definitely was a vehicle for Olivia Newton-John to do her thing. Yeah. Um, and she does do her thing. Like she's she again, like we said earlier, she's a fantastic singer. She definitely is a great performer. She has the charisma to like that conveys to me, at least, on film. Um, you know, you mentioned it, we so for the first time ever, I think, for reasons you and I had to watch this separately before we we recorded this.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, so then we got to uh basically say, like, so what did you think?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah. And um, and you mentioned something about like how something you did really enjoy was that sequence where they cross over between like big band music. It went on way too long.
SPEAKER_02:It did.
SPEAKER_01:Like, and the all of those sequences went on way too long.
SPEAKER_02:The big band sequence was honestly like it felt like it fit that era of music that I was going for, and then what was supposed to be the 80s version or like that, I don't know, new wave whatever whatever it was, was pretty bad, honestly. And when they like merged together, I was like, oh, that was cool. It just took like way too long for them to get to it. Like it was just they they gave three times as much time to that whole thing, and yet I didn't get to hear all of magic.
SPEAKER_01:Correct. Yeah, and it's interesting, and I really enjoy seeing dan the dancers do their thing. They they had great choreography. I believe Danny Ortega, who's uh like a celebrated cinema um cinematographer, uh choreographer, he I believe was involved with the film, so pretty early in his career. But like really cool to watch in that regard, but I'm like, come on, let's like, let's get back to the movie. Like, like let's get back to the story. Like, I don't I don't need like a 15-minute sequence.
SPEAKER_02:It feels more like something I would see at like a planetarium up in like just uh like visual audio experience, but it didn't feel like like a proper like movie with a story.
SPEAKER_01:And and and again, like you know what? Maybe the people who were part of this don't care, but it it was a very unbalanced film because it was so light on story, so heavy on these musical numbers. Even for a musical, it felt pretty uneven. Like, we've covered musicals, and we've covered some like great musicals where there's these like amazing, like okay, maybe people wouldn't say it's great, but like uh the the one that's coming to mind right now is Annie.
SPEAKER_03:Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_01:You know, so we covered that last year.
SPEAKER_02:But that that like knew exactly what it was.
SPEAKER_01:Exactly. Yeah, and it had a real story. Yes, it had a real story with real stakes, still a musical, still kind of heightened reality, but it it at least worked for me.
SPEAKER_02:I think like having Gene Kelly in this obviously helped from like the pro like, wow, you got Gene Kelly in this. But it almost raised expectations because if if I'm seeing Gene Kelly in it, I'm kind of expecting at least some other parts of the movie to rise up to that level.
SPEAKER_01:And again, it's kind of interesting. I mean, maybe not exactly the same thing, but it just makes me think of other films where it's just it was kind of a fascinating thing that they did in like the 70s and early 80s where they would take, you know, somebody, you know, like for instance, like Gregory Peck and The Omen. A great film. So, like, you know, like I'm I'm not making a one-to-one comparison here, but just like where you take somebody who is like incredibly celebrated for the role that they've played in the industry, and then you pop them into this movie. Um, I mean, they did the same thing in a number of different genres and of films of different calibers, like obviously Alec Guinness and Star Wars. He loved that movie. So you it meaning like, and I mean Olivia New John, not an unknown, but just like it, it's kind of an interesting thing that they did um with a lot of older actors at that time. Anyway, I guess it's neither here nor there. But but I think you're absolutely right. I think like just having Gene Kelly as part of the film yeah, would raise expectations. And if I'm being really honest, like he's my favorite part of the movie because he just has this, you know, kind of charisma about him that did not, for me at least, dissipate with age. And so every time he's on screen, he just brings it like effortlessly. Yeah. And and it just, I don't know, it just then it and then I guess it just kind of makes me a little sad because again, like I keep talking about how Michael Beck was so woefully miscast, it's like, oh, what could have this film been? Still probably not a great film if they weren't gonna change anything about the script. Yeah, the script was was like but just to have somebody who brought it a little bit more, you know, um, because it is his story.
SPEAKER_02:Even if they had just had like some fucking voiceover narration, kind of like connecting some of the dots to make it connect a little bit better.
SPEAKER_01:But you know, it's the the dance sequences, the singing sequences, they're fun. They go on too long. Love the costume design. Costume design's fantastic in this film, and that's about it.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, the costumes have pizzazz.
SPEAKER_01:The costumes have pizzazz. So I I am really glad that I finally got to see this movie.
SPEAKER_02:I've seen the the crazy poster of Olivia Newton John and her absolutely blown-out hair.
SPEAKER_01:Yes.
SPEAKER_02:So many times that I'm like, I never thought I would actually see it, but I did.
SPEAKER_01:And you know what? For the people who love this film for any reason, great. Wonderful. Keep loving the movie.
SPEAKER_02:Um You almost sound like I'm not trying to be dismissive at all.
SPEAKER_01:I promise.
SPEAKER_02:Glad you like this piece of shit.
SPEAKER_01:No, I there are plenty of movies that I adore that other people are like, ugh, it's trash. Yeah. So, and that's that's what's going on.
SPEAKER_02:Just don't tell me, just don't tell me that you like it for the uh for the great writing. I get it. Yeah, exactly. You like it's just like for the fun, music.
SPEAKER_01:Love it for whatever reason you want to love it, but just be truthful about it. Totally get that. Yeah. Don't don't try to convince me that it's a great, great story. Uh yeah, and so okay, so like probably leads to the next yeah, probably the next question about watching it again. I don't need to see it again, even if it were on TV.
SPEAKER_03:Which it's not.
SPEAKER_01:It never is. Um, maybe if I caught like a scene that had Gene Kelly in it, I'd keep it on.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:But um otherwise, like again, I'm really glad I finally saw it in full, and I'm I'm good. I'm okay to move on.
SPEAKER_02:I might watch The Warriors again.
SPEAKER_01:Sure, you do kind of like that movie, too.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, it's a fun movie, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Uh so like call to action. I mean, I gosh, I haven't been too granular with these lately, but because of just, you know, the experience washing over me of seeing this film for the first time, I'm really curious what other people think about this movie. I mean, we already, because I was, you know, teasing that this was going to be the next episode to drop, did get a couple comments online. Oh, really? Okay. Yeah, about like somebody what did somebody write? It's the best, worst, best movie. Which I thought that's a perfect way of putting it.
SPEAKER_02:Best, worst, best movie. Okay.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Um, so it's clear that there's like a lot of love for this movie, but I do think people fully acknowledge its its shortcomings.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. Yeah. I don't know if I caught your call to action. What was the the qu was Oh, I don't know if I really finished it.
SPEAKER_01:I'm just kind of curious what people think about it. Do you love it? Have you seen it? What do you think about it?
SPEAKER_02:I I I can't top that because I can't like when I when I try to think of like what if I was really gonna Okay, who would you cast for Sunny?
SPEAKER_01:That's what thank you. I was actually just gonna say, if I was really gonna go for it with these questions, yeah, who who could have been Sunny? Who could have been Sonny? Talking 1980. I mean, even like a really young, like Dennis Quaid. I don't know. I guess you do have to find somebody who has some singing and dancing ability, and I don't I don't really know. Um, you know, I know you can't do John Travolta again.
SPEAKER_02:Um He turned it down because he was doing Urban Cowboy.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, that's right. I did read that. Yeah. Although that would have been fun. They really they were a great pairing together. Um, you know who actually uh and looks very much like Michael Back? Um fucking Kanicki from Greece. He would have been even a little bit of a better fit if they wanted somebody with that look.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Um, he could have been in it.
SPEAKER_02:Um that's the most interesting thing to me is I'm like, oh, this guy that I recognize from the warriors is how? How? How did that happen?
SPEAKER_01:Right?
SPEAKER_02:Why?
SPEAKER_01:Why it's such an interesting decision to have him. So if you want to get in touch with us, we would love to hear from you. You can reach out on Facebook, Instagram, or Blue Sky. It's the same handle at all three. It is at 80smontagepod and 80s is 80S. Sneak peek. What do we got? I'm trying to think of a clue. Um I will try to think of an answer. I am not gonna sing this song that I believe is I haven't seen this film in total, but like I remember there's like a really uh, I don't know if I'd say famous, but like of like when a kid is, I think, running around bases at a like Oh, we're watching Parenthood. Yeah, okay, so you know what I'm talking about.
SPEAKER_02:Yes, and and the song is famously diarrhea. It's the diarrhea. Yeah. Okay, cool. Yeah, with uh Steve Martin, Kina Reeves.
SPEAKER_01:Man, like the cast is nuts. Yeah, this is gonna be another ridiculous list of like because what was the one that we just did that had like the crazy ensemble? Oh, um, Christmas Vacation. Yeah. This might rival that. We have a ton of fucking actors in this movie. Um, yeah, Steve Martin, uh, Mary Steen Burgeon, Diane Weist, um, Tom Hulse, uh Rick Moranis? Rick Moranis. Um, yes, you said Keanu Reeves, Joaquin Phoenix. Oh yeah. Um, oh my gosh, I can't believe I'm playing.
SPEAKER_02:Did you say the guy from Amadeus?
SPEAKER_01:Yes, Tom Holtz. Okay. Um and um from from Goonies. Oh, Martha Plumpton. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. There are a lot of people in this movie. So buckle up. Uh yeah, I'm excited to. I feel like maybe I I I don't have a recollection of seeing this movie in full, but because of those types of memories, like the diarrhea song, I feel like at some point I must have watched it, but I don't I don't really recall anything about it. Oh, and um, oh my gosh, the dad, the like patriarch. Robards, yes. Yeah. Oh my gosh, so many people we're gonna cover. Yeah. So that's next on tap. And in the meantime, thank you to everybody for making the choice to spend some time with us and listen along. We really appreciate it. And we will talk to you again in two weeks' time.